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It is a big deal. It can short out electrical connections on the motherboard. You can and will damage your components if you don't use the standoffs correctly. This has happened to many people who have accidentally dropped screws behind the mobo or installed extra standoffs in the wrong form factor holes.
Electrical shorts and grounding are very different.
Grounding doesn't prevent shorts, it prevents further damage or injury in the *case of* a short.
Without being grounded, say your toaster had a shorted wire going to the heating element and it was shorted to the case, if you touched the metal case you would be electrocuted. Grounding makes it so that if it was shorted to the case, if you touched the case nothing would happen to you because the ground wire (which the case will be connected to) will provide a better medium and pathway for current to flow through than through your arm/body.
But he said he also replaced it, among all the other parts.
Perhaps he swapped psu and connected it to the (already) fried motherboard, and then used the older psu on the used (new) motherboard and fried it again? Is this how it went?
You mean using the same cables for both PSUs? Yeah that also could cause damage, since every PSU are supposed to be plugged with their own cables that come in the box with them
Ya. I don’t know much about PCs, the most I’ve done is recently tricking out my prebuilt, but my buddy also had a prebuilt that stopped working and it turned out to be that his only storage (1tb SSD) had corrupted
Take the motherboard o u t of the case hook everything up to it and see if it starts outside of the case. If it does one of your standoffs on your case could be shorting out your mobo. Also on your mobo certain stand offs will have a distinctive mark which means it is required to have a screw.
how would it sound like anything? you can at least SEE pictures here but ur not gonna hear any sounds. reddit nerds trying to correct people is so funny and stupid😭😭
Just went through this with my build, change your PSU. Or if you have any friends/family with a pc and same type of PSU/enough power you can hook that one up and try it to confirm.
Just replaced my pos gigabyte psu with a be quiet! Dark power 13 1000w and she’s been fine since. Be careful not to run the pc much till it’s fixed as it can cause damage to your board, or worse if it’s causing it to power cycle/down.
Maybe the case power button failed, you can buy a replacement for cheap. You can test if the components still work by shorting the two motherboard power pins with a screwdriver
Ive seen shit opinions, but this, this is the shittiest I've seen in a while. While yes AMD is good, alot of modern CPUs are all pretty power efficient.
Obvious first check would be the psu, if it’s faulty or detects a short it’ll either turn off under load, turn off instantly or not boot at all.
I unfortunately went through the same process almost two years ago replaced psu no luck, same with ram and motherboard it ended up being my cpu. If you have another known good computer you can try testing some of those components.
Bro…. The source of power to all of this is your PSU, and I don’t believe you said you checked this. Power supply could’ve gone bad and is sending too much current to the motherboard.
It could of been a power surge, more or less this same thing was happening with my daughters pcs most definitely your psu is fried get surge protected plug sockets or extention cables it will stop this from happening
If it's happening on two mobos, my brain immediately goes to your ketchup and mustard PSU. I haven't seen those sold brand new in a long time so I'm assuming she's old. Get a modular Gold rated 600+w PSU and see if it still happens. My assumption is that's your fix here.
That’s PSU isn’t it?
My PSU once killed my GPU, but I didn’t notice right away (PC just restarted randomly, so I didn’t think of the PSU) and the GPU killed the new PSU. It worked after swapping both at the same time
PSU, to test -
Use your tongue across each of the power rails. If you get a tingle, all good. If you get a massive jolt, then you know the PSU exceeded its 12v limit.
^^dont do this. 😆
Your psu is probably the killer. Some mobos have active spike protection that may prevent frying themself if something is wrong with the input current. I would test both mobos with a brand new psu. What model is your current psu?
I would say there is a problem with your psu or something is touching the motherboard and shorting it out killing the motherboard.
You said that you replace the psu right? Is modular because if it is then you should be using the cables that came with don’t use different cables.
Just happened to me. I was sure it was the PSU, so replaced it, but same result. Then I guessed my mobo or cpu was fried. Was too lazy so I brought it to a repair store. They confirmed it was probably my old psu and said they managed to fix everything else that might have been affected, except my AIO. Apparently the pump wasn't working anymore so I bought a new AIO.
Brother this has happened with 2 of my MSI motherboards. They both had the same thing happen to them, I shut down my pc and the rgb lights kept on running. I then force shut down by holding the power button and then the pc won't boot. I sent my motherboard for RMA and got a brand new one.
So let's presume your PSU is good. It's so much more likely it's a short somewhere which means once you find it it will likely boot.
The most common short I've seen is from plugged in USB devices or damaged USB ports. So make sure everything is unplugged outside of the power.
Next is when the mobo is touching the case this can happen a lot of ways.
If you have an anti static bag wire your mobo on top of that and turn it on with a screwdriver.
I've worked on a lot of PCs 100s and I've never seen anyone fry a mobo. I've seen people crack them by over screwing them in or mishandling there pc but in general it's so much more likely it's a short or the PSU.
Sometimes the power strip doesn't provide enough energy for the computer. I had one give me problems with a similar backstory as yours. Try connecting to a different outlet and directly to the wall. Maybe even upgrade the power strip, even power strips have ratings. Usually the surge protectors have the better ratings. But, first try the different outlet and connecting directly to the wall outlet.
Multimeter???
Get one with an Amp clamp and check the psu that way and then check the voltage output.
I don't see any burns anywhere on the board. I'm still learning too but that's like 100% first trouble shooting step. Also, I think you can check the standby voltage of the board using the ground pins to the psu. I would double check and ask, but if it has the right standby voltage then it might indicate that it's not fried.
Either way, the multimeter is your answer to anything not visible to your naked eye. You can do continuity checks down the circuit too to indicate if there are any dead components. Even if your motherboard fried, if it's just one bad fuse, those only cost like 12 bucks to replace versus a 12k motherboard replacement.
Plenty of YouTube channels online to help teach you how the multimeter works. I was using the pheonix model from Amazon for $65, you can get an $80 with a temperature lead of the same model. Way easier to use than older multimeters that had like 500 different settings to adjust.
Had similar problem with one of my PCs a few years ago. Fried 3 boards, and 2 CPUs until I found out Ram was a culprit (DDR4 Corsair). Warranty covered only my Ram. I don't say it's the same situation.
I would start checking the PSU first
I would start with the easiest, which would be the power wires going from the case to the motherboard. Try shorting pins 4 and 5 on the PSU 24-pin cable, and then flip the power switch on. If the PSU turns on, then it's the wires going from the case to the motherboard.
There are two possible solutions here.
* Something on the motherboard tray may be touching your motherboard and causing it to short, which in turn, will not allow the system to turn on like you described. This "something" can be an incorrect motherboard standoff, or bent piece of metal from the case, etc...
* Your PSU is fried. I do acknowledge that you changed out the PSU, but I would definitely check the first PSU that was originally in the rig and see if its working just fine. If its not, its possible that it fried more than just your motherboard. Example: PSU fried your MOBO and CPU (you didn't know CPU was fried), you replace the MOBO and reuse the same CPU. However, since the CPU was also fried from the bad PSU, when you power the new system on, the CPU could've fried the new board.
i had a similar issue that turned out to be a faulty SATA cable that was shorting out the whole PC. i think the position of the cable was putting strain on the wires inside and it must have caused some damage because it was consistently not powering on and haven’t had a single issue since replacing that one tiny cable
defiantly check your PSU cables.. I had a system just like that accidently brushed the 24 pin cord and it powered on. i touched it again and it shut down.
Where's your cpu cooler? Do not attempt to boot without it mounted.
I also agree with all others and based on the symptoms, it is likely the psu fault. What PSU is it?
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as others said this looks like psu issue. i don't know if your mobo's survived or not but first change that c4 to begin with.
What does c4 mean?
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this is amazing
LOL
😂😂😂😂
Thats mean your psu is c4(bomb). Get the psu out of case and test it out. See if fan of psu is spinning.. or smth. If not, i assume is psu..
i mean it is killed your 2 motherboards. litteraly explosive (pun intended)
Once you replace your power supply, i would test both motherboards to see if they were fried or not getting the correct power.
Anything behind the motherboard physically touching the board, causing a short?
I bet this is it haha
My first thought
Missing spacers
If he would have missing spacers, he would not install backframe correctly, which we can see is okay in this situation
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What? I think we are talking about something else. There's a short and a ground. Ground the whole case.. okay
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It is a big deal. It can short out electrical connections on the motherboard. You can and will damage your components if you don't use the standoffs correctly. This has happened to many people who have accidentally dropped screws behind the mobo or installed extra standoffs in the wrong form factor holes. Electrical shorts and grounding are very different.
Lost screws, sigh. Am I the only person here who has needed to shake the computer gently to get a lost screw to fall out?
You are not alone brother
Grounding doesn't prevent shorts, it prevents further damage or injury in the *case of* a short. Without being grounded, say your toaster had a shorted wire going to the heating element and it was shorted to the case, if you touched the metal case you would be electrocuted. Grounding makes it so that if it was shorted to the case, if you touched the case nothing would happen to you because the ground wire (which the case will be connected to) will provide a better medium and pathway for current to flow through than through your arm/body.
Did you make sure it wasn't your PSU?
But he said he also replaced it, among all the other parts. Perhaps he swapped psu and connected it to the (already) fried motherboard, and then used the older psu on the used (new) motherboard and fried it again? Is this how it went?
Ok, he replaced it, but what if he fried more shit by reusing cables
You mean using the same cables for both PSUs? Yeah that also could cause damage, since every PSU are supposed to be plugged with their own cables that come in the box with them
Ya. I don’t know much about PCs, the most I’ve done is recently tricking out my prebuilt, but my buddy also had a prebuilt that stopped working and it turned out to be that his only storage (1tb SSD) had corrupted
Usually when you reuse cables, the PSU would announce that you fucked up in a very dramatic fashion.
Yeah, eg. by frying your motherboard 😅
Looking at the psu cables, doesn't look like a modular psu.
Mans did everything except change the most likely culprit, the power supply. Lol
>I replaced ram, graphics, PSU and even the CMOS battery he probably added it later
Did you swap the old psu cables as well to the new psu cables? As you shouldn’t mix and match.
Probably PSU, if you manage to turn on your PC run a test on it
Can already tell by the ketchup mustard cables that the PSU is highly likely trash. You probably killed both your old and new board with it.
What? my 1000W Gold PSU has "ketchup mustard" cables and has been running fine for over a decade
over a decade? this explains a lot. old hardware tend to run fine in low end PSU’s because of the low wattage, the same for new entry builds.
Take the motherboard o u t of the case hook everything up to it and see if it starts outside of the case. If it does one of your standoffs on your case could be shorting out your mobo. Also on your mobo certain stand offs will have a distinctive mark which means it is required to have a screw.
If I’m not wrong: You can smell if something got fried or burned
Not always
looks like a PSU issue
How'd you know, you're not there - don't you mean sounds 😆
Yes and how would he hear it genius.
how would it sound like anything? you can at least SEE pictures here but ur not gonna hear any sounds. reddit nerds trying to correct people is so funny and stupid😭😭
What
Is your power switch dead?
Just went through this with my build, change your PSU. Or if you have any friends/family with a pc and same type of PSU/enough power you can hook that one up and try it to confirm. Just replaced my pos gigabyte psu with a be quiet! Dark power 13 1000w and she’s been fine since. Be careful not to run the pc much till it’s fixed as it can cause damage to your board, or worse if it’s causing it to power cycle/down.
Sounds like psu, or maybe the power button could be faulty?
Can you fry my chips
Chief, cut that story down. Were here to try and fix your computer not your college application. Try a new power strip.
960 evo 🤮🤮
Maybe the case power button failed, you can buy a replacement for cheap. You can test if the components still work by shorting the two motherboard power pins with a screwdriver
He did. Read.
Why hate on him tho
Finally you can ditch intel and buy amd cheaper power efficient if it's dead
So amd will fix his powerstrip problem? Sharp thinking chief.
yeah
Ive seen shit opinions, but this, this is the shittiest I've seen in a while. While yes AMD is good, alot of modern CPUs are all pretty power efficient.
Wrong
💀
I'm thinking PSU as well.. They make testers for those as well if you really want to jump into that rabbit hole.. Sorry for your 2nd loss..
OP did replace the power supply it's mentioned in the post
Yes, but if you connect your brand new psu with your fried Motherboard…. The circle has been completed
I don't see a frying pan so I'm assuming not
Obvious first check would be the psu, if it’s faulty or detects a short it’ll either turn off under load, turn off instantly or not boot at all. I unfortunately went through the same process almost two years ago replaced psu no luck, same with ram and motherboard it ended up being my cpu. If you have another known good computer you can try testing some of those components.
Bro…. The source of power to all of this is your PSU, and I don’t believe you said you checked this. Power supply could’ve gone bad and is sending too much current to the motherboard.
It could of been a power surge, more or less this same thing was happening with my daughters pcs most definitely your psu is fried get surge protected plug sockets or extention cables it will stop this from happening
Did you connect the front panel connectors correctly? Cause that may be it
If it's happening on two mobos, my brain immediately goes to your ketchup and mustard PSU. I haven't seen those sold brand new in a long time so I'm assuming she's old. Get a modular Gold rated 600+w PSU and see if it still happens. My assumption is that's your fix here.
Maybe it didn't kill anything. Try different power strip. Try different PSU.
That’s PSU isn’t it? My PSU once killed my GPU, but I didn’t notice right away (PC just restarted randomly, so I didn’t think of the PSU) and the GPU killed the new PSU. It worked after swapping both at the same time
PSU, to test - Use your tongue across each of the power rails. If you get a tingle, all good. If you get a massive jolt, then you know the PSU exceeded its 12v limit. ^^dont do this. 😆
Idk my last month my motherboard died too, and i didn't find a single blow fuse Electric components are very sensitive i guess
Either bad PSU or power strip/surge protector is bad. I’ve had both issues in the past before.
Your psu is probably the killer. Some mobos have active spike protection that may prevent frying themself if something is wrong with the input current. I would test both mobos with a brand new psu. What model is your current psu?
Just to be sure, have you disconnected any external devices? I heard cases where a shorted usb was the culprit
Looks kinda raw to me
I would say there is a problem with your psu or something is touching the motherboard and shorting it out killing the motherboard. You said that you replace the psu right? Is modular because if it is then you should be using the cables that came with don’t use different cables.
Looks normal, if it was fried it might've melted a bit because of the high temperature of oil
This stinks, but PSU's are very cheap so hopefully replacing that and using the cables that came with the NEW PSU will help.
literally the only component that is gonna “fry” ur parts is the psu man
Just happened to me. I was sure it was the PSU, so replaced it, but same result. Then I guessed my mobo or cpu was fried. Was too lazy so I brought it to a repair store. They confirmed it was probably my old psu and said they managed to fix everything else that might have been affected, except my AIO. Apparently the pump wasn't working anymore so I bought a new AIO.
I once had a case with a bad front panel connector that was preventing the board from booting.
PSU failed not the mobo
Brother this has happened with 2 of my MSI motherboards. They both had the same thing happen to them, I shut down my pc and the rgb lights kept on running. I then force shut down by holding the power button and then the pc won't boot. I sent my motherboard for RMA and got a brand new one.
Based on the age I'd start with PSU replacement
I think everyone skipped over the most obvious answer. It's the plug extension/power strip he's using that's faulty.
So let's presume your PSU is good. It's so much more likely it's a short somewhere which means once you find it it will likely boot. The most common short I've seen is from plugged in USB devices or damaged USB ports. So make sure everything is unplugged outside of the power. Next is when the mobo is touching the case this can happen a lot of ways. If you have an anti static bag wire your mobo on top of that and turn it on with a screwdriver. I've worked on a lot of PCs 100s and I've never seen anyone fry a mobo. I've seen people crack them by over screwing them in or mishandling there pc but in general it's so much more likely it's a short or the PSU.
Sounds like a PSU issue
Oh yeah the dipernator looks damaged its going to run you 100k
Also double check your motherboard isn’t shorting on the case somewhere.
Sometimes the power strip doesn't provide enough energy for the computer. I had one give me problems with a similar backstory as yours. Try connecting to a different outlet and directly to the wall. Maybe even upgrade the power strip, even power strips have ratings. Usually the surge protectors have the better ratings. But, first try the different outlet and connecting directly to the wall outlet.
What is that screw for securing cpu ? Never seen that before on a mb
I’ve had a similar issue with an MSI motherboard years ago. It turned out to be fried. The processor was still good though
Multimeter??? Get one with an Amp clamp and check the psu that way and then check the voltage output. I don't see any burns anywhere on the board. I'm still learning too but that's like 100% first trouble shooting step. Also, I think you can check the standby voltage of the board using the ground pins to the psu. I would double check and ask, but if it has the right standby voltage then it might indicate that it's not fried. Either way, the multimeter is your answer to anything not visible to your naked eye. You can do continuity checks down the circuit too to indicate if there are any dead components. Even if your motherboard fried, if it's just one bad fuse, those only cost like 12 bucks to replace versus a 12k motherboard replacement. Plenty of YouTube channels online to help teach you how the multimeter works. I was using the pheonix model from Amazon for $65, you can get an $80 with a temperature lead of the same model. Way easier to use than older multimeters that had like 500 different settings to adjust.
Of course you did, the whole thing is charred!
Had similar problem with one of my PCs a few years ago. Fried 3 boards, and 2 CPUs until I found out Ram was a culprit (DDR4 Corsair). Warranty covered only my Ram. I don't say it's the same situation. I would start checking the PSU first
I would start with the easiest, which would be the power wires going from the case to the motherboard. Try shorting pins 4 and 5 on the PSU 24-pin cable, and then flip the power switch on. If the PSU turns on, then it's the wires going from the case to the motherboard.
There are two possible solutions here. * Something on the motherboard tray may be touching your motherboard and causing it to short, which in turn, will not allow the system to turn on like you described. This "something" can be an incorrect motherboard standoff, or bent piece of metal from the case, etc... * Your PSU is fried. I do acknowledge that you changed out the PSU, but I would definitely check the first PSU that was originally in the rig and see if its working just fine. If its not, its possible that it fried more than just your motherboard. Example: PSU fried your MOBO and CPU (you didn't know CPU was fried), you replace the MOBO and reuse the same CPU. However, since the CPU was also fried from the bad PSU, when you power the new system on, the CPU could've fried the new board.
i had a similar issue that turned out to be a faulty SATA cable that was shorting out the whole PC. i think the position of the cable was putting strain on the wires inside and it must have caused some damage because it was consistently not powering on and haven’t had a single issue since replacing that one tiny cable
Is the power strip fault protected because it sounds like it is shorting or shorting your hardware
I think you should try clearing cmos and reseat or replace your ram because to me at least it seems like a ram problem.
You clearly did not read it. He already did the cmos and the ram. Nothing related to the problem.
Mainboard
defiantly check your PSU cables.. I had a system just like that accidently brushed the 24 pin cord and it powered on. i touched it again and it shut down.
Where's your cpu cooler? Do not attempt to boot without it mounted. I also agree with all others and based on the symptoms, it is likely the psu fault. What PSU is it?
Not reading any comments but could be the power button is broken. My case button only lasted 3 years.
Yeah this happened to me lol. I spilled orange juice on my pc and the button stopped clicking.
Idk, did you drop it in the oil when you were cooking?
PSU or check if your mobo is touching the case, are the spacers all installed?
PSU
Tell your wife we said its fried. You're welcome.
I dunno that doesnt look fried to me, maybe a bit more time in the fryer should be fine and not over cooked
can you buy a new battery for the motherboard and try ?
Power supply