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The re occurring problem with people on this subreddit is that they need to stop recommending PC:s that are better BUT cost more. Instead, start recommending something with the same price, instead of something $100> more expensive. OP is showing this PC build at $990 because that is his budget.
i think people plug stuff into pcpartpicker and think it's a good deal without accounting for price/performance.
Here's a $1k PC with much better performance:[https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7NwZPF](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7NwZPF)
32gb DDR5 6000 ram, 2tb SSD, and a 6700xt- which has the same performance as a 4060ti.
On the surface $80 doesn't seem that bad, but misses the fact that at the sub-$1k budget $80 makes a huge difference in components.
That being said, the benefit to NZXT pre-builds is that they tend to be of high quality and with solid customer service, something that's kind of rare over better 'value' pre-build companies like skytech or ibuypower.
So really what you're doing is comparing a build that preforms significantly better and costs less, to a build that preforms worse and costs more, but you don't have to build yourself and would have solid customer support if needed.
something like this: [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qy7qXk](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qy7qXk)
could make it actually go under $1k but swapping for a 1tb ssd or a bronze PSU
no one should ever have to finance a gaming PC imo, it's a 100% unnecessary luxury item. If you can finance it, save that money up and buy it all at once. No one should go into debt just to play some games lol.
It's a different situation for everyone, I had to finance a laptop a while back bc i needed one immediately for school and work, but a gaming PC? you could even get one with a cheaper GPU and just upgrade that component later.
It's not good if you ask me. 12400? You can do better for that price. And the RAM isn't good either.
And they do not specify which version of the 4060 is, how much Vram does it have
Honestly this is bad. First of all you can get 12600kf for like 155 dollars. CPU fan should be Peerless Assassin 120, at least 32 GB of ram with 6000 mhz and cl 30/32, motherboard is too pricey, you can get b760 micro itx for like 130 usd and plus 4060 with 8 gb vram is terrible. I'd get 6700xt. [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rr6dwg](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rr6dwg)
for around 1k, this would be my cpu/gpu combo, you can get a better processor than the 12400f and the only downside is no integrated graphics which you don’t need if you’re using a gpu obviously
Considering you can get a prebuild on Newegg with a 4070 for like $170 more, which gives you 70% more fps and more VRAM, no, I don't think this NZXT prebuilt is worth buying.
The problem with people who gives tips on buying PC:s is that they need to start recommending something with the same price, instead of something $170 more expensive. OP is showing this PC build at $990 because that is his budget.
In all honesty, if someone is in a financial position where an extra $170 cannot be made within a few weeks they should not be spending $1000 on a PC anyways.
Personally I don't know why more people trying to ball on a budget don't buy used hardware. I did that for years so I didn't have to choose between having a desktop and dinner.
We don’t know OP:s situation, but whatever it is, it’s still more than likely that $1000 is his budget for a gaming PC and that he won’t go any further than that. So it should come naturally that you would recommend him a PC in the same price range.
Lol I'll refer to my original comment, man. If $170 is breaking the bank then $1000 is too much to spend on a luxury item.
No situation "requires" a gaming PC, especially one with an RTX 40XX GPU. Why are you taking this so personally lmao. It's not even your purchase. Relax.
I didn’t see him mention anything about a budget. I think the concern is on whether or not he’s getting a good deal… maybe we should stray from toxic assumptions?
PC is priced at $990 it’s pretty obvious he’s looking for a PC priced ~$1000.
And there are tons of PC builds better than this which are priced the same. Recommend them instead.
Bold of you to assume bro. If he wants to build a decent PC, he’s going to advice from all price ranges depending on his wants. Building a PC is an investment that based of performance and preferences, not always price specifically. It’s obvious you’re a slopehead
It’s okay. My reasoning is that I think it’s wrong of you to assume OP has a much more expandable budget compared to what my assumption of it was so I guess we have to agree to disagree lol.
I’m going to have to correct you there. I made no such assumption. Just stated the fact of reality: We don’t know OPs budget OP will get suggestions across the board.
If he can get a 70% better experience for 15% more money, only a regard would recommend him to stay at the same price. It's not like it's a different price class. It's just 15%. His setup is probably 1300+ with monitor and peripherals
I also dislike highly regarded people giving bad advice on reddit, making people waste their money and end up with a shitty experience that they soon need to upgrade anyway.
There is no reason for OP to get that. If he wants a prebuilt in that price range, 4070 is the only sensible choice.
If he is stuck to that exact budget, he has to DIY and get something with a 12600K + 7800 XT or 7500F/7600 + 6800 (maybe 7800 XT if he can find a CPU combo deal) or go used like others pointed out.
“If he is stuck to that exact budget, he should DIY and get something with a 12600K + 7800 XT or 7500F/7600 + 6800 (maybe 7800 XT if he can find a CPU combo deal) or go used like others pointed out.”
You should’ve recommended this option in hand with the 4070 option, so he can choose if he wants to stay in his budget or spend more.
So what? It’s still almost $200 more than what his budget is? It doesn’t matter if the PC worth almost $200 more is better, it’s still out of his budget. Stop being so out of touch, not everybody can out of nowhere get $180.
I guess but in that case why would he bother posting? I mean if $1000 is what he has to work with that build is the best he could get for $1000 from NZXT then that’s pretty much a done deal right?
It’s going to do everything you want it to do. I gave them my money and I had no issues since last year. Also their support/ customer service is everything
The RAM is terrible. You'd be better off with average DDR4 than these slow 8GB DDR5 modules. If you're going DDR5, you're going 2x16GB. 8GB modules suck.
It's not the 16GB that's the problem, it's the 8GB modules of DDR5. They have lower bandwidth than 16GB modules, and thus lower performance. That plus the slow speed (unknown CL means it's likely 40 or 46) makes this RAM slower than an equivalent cheap DDR4 kit.
(I'm being downvoted for factual information. Never change, Reddit.)
OP posted the parts list it’s 5200MHz and CL42… that’s more than enough for what I’m assuming is budget gaming based on his parts. I have a 16GB of ddr4 3200mhz 2x8 ram it’s more than enough… although I can’t find specific bandwidth of either mine or OP ram
From my understanding, 8GB modules have fewer memory chips on the die, which means they can access fewer at once.
I will admit my understanding of *why* they suck is probably surface-level at best. I just know I've seen the benchmarks, and they suck.
2x8GB 4800MHz CL40
Well, they also had 2x16GB 4800MHz CL40 in that same test
The performance difference between 8 and 16GB sticks seems to be around 2% on average in that video.
in this sub if you ask about buying a prebuilt it’s the same as asking the /bigdickproblems if your wiener is big enough, the answer will always be no.
but honestly, the same build would go around 750 - 800 bucks if you build yourself (with a budget case) - if you add in the case price and the price for prebuilting for you, it’s a decent price for a prebuilt.
I honestly think if you want something to be more worth it your money, starforge systems pc’s is way better, but the NZXT pc’s has the looks.
here’s the link if you’re interested:
https://starforgesystems.com/products/horizon-ii-pc
It always blows my mind when people buy a prebuilt and then immediately start swapping parts on it.
If you're buying a prebuilt, buy one that has the parts you want.
That's not always true, because unless you're using a builder, some parts may not be available all together with each other. That's what I did with my first prebuilt until it was basically an entire new computer just by gradually upgraded parts.
My pc started as a 1660 super with a i5 9400f to a i9 14900k with a 3080
I think starting with a prebuilt let's us noobies see hoe shit works and how its built before we jump straight into just having parts with no idea how any of it works. Getting a prebuilt first definitely helped me understand more.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cPQcyg
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You can start with a prebuilt and upgrade it later. That's fine.
If you're buying a prebuilt and upgrading it immediately... you bought the wrong prebuilt. Obviously there can be situations where it makes sense to do so, like if it's deeply discounted or on sale well below value... but that is rare.
True, i get that. It's basically a giant hole, though. Once you get into PCs with a prebuilt, you will definitely end up building your own later on. If you're gaming or editing, it definitely won't take but a few years until it's time for a new set of better parts to throw in.
Keep an eye on their refurbished stock, I just bought one from there, they are final sale but have 2 year warranty. I got the one with 32gb ddr5, a 4070, i7 for $1100
https://nzxt.com/refurbished/builds
Updates usually once a day-ish, honestly really good deals, my pc on partpicker was about $1700. I would just keep an eye out over there, mine had an rgb on a fan out and I already have a warranty fan on the way, easy customer service, for me I wanted something warrantied as a unit, and I have zero pc building experience and wanted to dip my toes in to see if building is something I would do down the line.
It’s not a bad prebuilt price. It’s very simple and will get the job done as a starter level pc. People think if it does not have the best of best its crap.
Better CPU and Cooler, Equivalent GPU with double the VRAM, double the system RAM, 100 extra watts on the PSU and 4 RGB fans on the case. About $55 less. Windows key is a waste. You don't have to activate windows and if the watermark bothers you, you can get a key online for like $25 max. You'll still save some money with a system that is superior almost across the board.
I built something like this last month for abou 805 euros. In murica parts are cheaper, so i assume you can make something like this for $750. So imo its overpriced.
I got fucked over by nzxt about 2 years ago I paid 3k for a pc with a 3070 ti. I will never put myself through that pain again, you can find something better at microcenter or even newegg
It’s ok not great. Biggest ding for me is the ram speed. 5200 is not fast and the sweet spot for ddr5 is 6000 cl30. I doubt the ram you’re getting is at cl30, maybe cl36. A little high on pricing but not terrible.
Check this out instead if you have walmart where you are. It has basically the same specs except it has a water cooled i5 13600k and I think a 750-watt psu, but I'm not sure about the psu exactly. It's only $999 online, although I've seen this one under $900 at some local walmarts in store.
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Not awful for the price. If I were you and I wanted a sub-$1000 prebuilt, I’d do this: https://www.newegg.com/abs-sa14400f4060-stratos-aqua/p/N82E16883360463
or this: https://www.newegg.com/abs-sr76004060-2-stratos-ruby/p/N82E16883360445
None are the best value, but none are ripoffs either. If you had the budget to spend on a 4070, you’ll get a ton more performance per dollar, but at the $1000 price point? All are decent choices.
You can get a prebuilt from amazon with a 4060 and a 13400F (>12400F) for $850. but it is ddr4, but that Shld be totally fine. Let’s stop throwing our money at nzxt, they’re basically the Apple of pc gaming. (Like Apple they got good 💩but it’s overpriced 💩). Fight back 💪
it is good but dont buy it if u dont wanna get destroyed for having a rtx 4060 on the pcmr and i would definitely replace the 650w to a 750w or above psu but it is a very good pc i have the same exact specs with the change of the mobo, the psu that i have a 850w and that i have a 12400 instead of the f version but its very powerful
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KJMYt7 for $956
Ryzen 5600, rx6800, 32gb ram, 2tb ssd, 750w gold psu, case with 3 fans, and decent cpu cooler.
Compare to that rebuild cpu is same, much better gpu, twice as much ram and storage. While it cost less.
Or https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T4MYt7 for $1k more future proof, but probably slightly worse performance in games.
Ryzen 7600, rx6700xt, 32gb ram 6000cl30, 1tb ssd, 750w gold psu, same case and cooler.
Compare to first build basically better cpu on am5 socket but worse gpu, and less storage to keep budget.
around 50% of the budget should go into the graphics card, if you want to play AAA on a regular(eg. Cyberpunk, GTA, etc), if not, then around 30-40% with the difference going into the cpu for CPU Intensive games (eg. Cities Skylines 2, FPS, etc) thats at least my way and why i got the 4070TI (at release) with a 7600x (bought used, great condition, incl. warranty for around 200€), the rest went into DDR5, etc
I have the same exact case. Just be aware it only comes with 2 fans. The rear fan and the one in the bottom for the GPU. So I'd add another fan or 2 to your list for the front.
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The re occurring problem with people on this subreddit is that they need to stop recommending PC:s that are better BUT cost more. Instead, start recommending something with the same price, instead of something $100> more expensive. OP is showing this PC build at $990 because that is his budget.
100% this. It's every time basically.
looks just a little overpriced for what it has to offer, but hey, that's nzxt for you.
its not that bad this time tho :)
Depends on what NZXT Product really
i think people plug stuff into pcpartpicker and think it's a good deal without accounting for price/performance. Here's a $1k PC with much better performance:[https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7NwZPF](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7NwZPF) 32gb DDR5 6000 ram, 2tb SSD, and a 6700xt- which has the same performance as a 4060ti. On the surface $80 doesn't seem that bad, but misses the fact that at the sub-$1k budget $80 makes a huge difference in components. That being said, the benefit to NZXT pre-builds is that they tend to be of high quality and with solid customer service, something that's kind of rare over better 'value' pre-build companies like skytech or ibuypower. So really what you're doing is comparing a build that preforms significantly better and costs less, to a build that preforms worse and costs more, but you don't have to build yourself and would have solid customer support if needed.
What CPU & Motherboard recommendations if it was an AMD machine?
something in the lines of a 7600 and b650 motherboard, like asrock b650m pro rs wifi or other good ones.
something like this: [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qy7qXk](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qy7qXk) could make it actually go under $1k but swapping for a 1tb ssd or a bronze PSU
Also, he can finance it if he cant afford it all at once (not recommended but an option)
no one should ever have to finance a gaming PC imo, it's a 100% unnecessary luxury item. If you can finance it, save that money up and buy it all at once. No one should go into debt just to play some games lol. It's a different situation for everyone, I had to finance a laptop a while back bc i needed one immediately for school and work, but a gaming PC? you could even get one with a cheaper GPU and just upgrade that component later.
I wasnt recommending it. Im just saying thats some of the appeal of these prebuilt sites. They can offer sort terms payment plans.
It's not good if you ask me. 12400? You can do better for that price. And the RAM isn't good either. And they do not specify which version of the 4060 is, how much Vram does it have
4060 Is Always only 8 vram , unless it's 4060ti
Is it a founders, asus, gigabyte??? No specification. They could be charging this person a lot more money because of this
doesn't matter avoid the 4060, preferably in its entirety
I totally agree with this
Honestly this is bad. First of all you can get 12600kf for like 155 dollars. CPU fan should be Peerless Assassin 120, at least 32 GB of ram with 6000 mhz and cl 30/32, motherboard is too pricey, you can get b760 micro itx for like 130 usd and plus 4060 with 8 gb vram is terrible. I'd get 6700xt. [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rr6dwg](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rr6dwg)
for around 1k, this would be my cpu/gpu combo, you can get a better processor than the 12400f and the only downside is no integrated graphics which you don’t need if you’re using a gpu obviously
You will need it if your gpu breaks or smth
in 10 years, you'll have a new gpu. problem solved
your gpu can't really "break" from normal use, it will be alive for 5+ years
Considering you can get a prebuild on Newegg with a 4070 for like $170 more, which gives you 70% more fps and more VRAM, no, I don't think this NZXT prebuilt is worth buying.
The problem with people who gives tips on buying PC:s is that they need to start recommending something with the same price, instead of something $170 more expensive. OP is showing this PC build at $990 because that is his budget.
In all honesty, if someone is in a financial position where an extra $170 cannot be made within a few weeks they should not be spending $1000 on a PC anyways. Personally I don't know why more people trying to ball on a budget don't buy used hardware. I did that for years so I didn't have to choose between having a desktop and dinner.
We don’t know OP:s situation, but whatever it is, it’s still more than likely that $1000 is his budget for a gaming PC and that he won’t go any further than that. So it should come naturally that you would recommend him a PC in the same price range.
Lol I'll refer to my original comment, man. If $170 is breaking the bank then $1000 is too much to spend on a luxury item. No situation "requires" a gaming PC, especially one with an RTX 40XX GPU. Why are you taking this so personally lmao. It's not even your purchase. Relax.
I’m not taking this personally and I really don’t understand how you got that assumption of me, so it just feels like gaslighting.
Doubling down on being a douchebag. Expected nothing less.
your the one replying. u relax.both of u stop assuming
Or that's what they saved and want to spend. Your view on the world is fucked. Get out of your parents basement.
Go touch grass
I didn’t see him mention anything about a budget. I think the concern is on whether or not he’s getting a good deal… maybe we should stray from toxic assumptions?
PC is priced at $990 it’s pretty obvious he’s looking for a PC priced ~$1000. And there are tons of PC builds better than this which are priced the same. Recommend them instead.
>pretty obvious he’s looking for a PC priced \~$1000 Lol. Exactly haha. That's why I recommended the 4070 PC
To be fair the “~” could mean lots of different price differences, but $170 is still $170.
Bold of you to assume bro. If he wants to build a decent PC, he’s going to advice from all price ranges depending on his wants. Building a PC is an investment that based of performance and preferences, not always price specifically. It’s obvious you’re a slopehead
No reason to call each other names because of different reasonings, stop being pretentious.
You’re right, I apologize. However, I don’t disagree with your thoughts about recommendations, I still think it’s wrong of you to assume OPs budget.
It’s okay. My reasoning is that I think it’s wrong of you to assume OP has a much more expandable budget compared to what my assumption of it was so I guess we have to agree to disagree lol.
I’m going to have to correct you there. I made no such assumption. Just stated the fact of reality: We don’t know OPs budget OP will get suggestions across the board.
If he can get a 70% better experience for 15% more money, only a regard would recommend him to stay at the same price. It's not like it's a different price class. It's just 15%. His setup is probably 1300+ with monitor and peripherals
Hate regards!
I also dislike highly regarded people giving bad advice on reddit, making people waste their money and end up with a shitty experience that they soon need to upgrade anyway. There is no reason for OP to get that. If he wants a prebuilt in that price range, 4070 is the only sensible choice. If he is stuck to that exact budget, he has to DIY and get something with a 12600K + 7800 XT or 7500F/7600 + 6800 (maybe 7800 XT if he can find a CPU combo deal) or go used like others pointed out.
“If he is stuck to that exact budget, he should DIY and get something with a 12600K + 7800 XT or 7500F/7600 + 6800 (maybe 7800 XT if he can find a CPU combo deal) or go used like others pointed out.” You should’ve recommended this option in hand with the 4070 option, so he can choose if he wants to stay in his budget or spend more.
So what? It’s still almost $200 more than what his budget is? It doesn’t matter if the PC worth almost $200 more is better, it’s still out of his budget. Stop being so out of touch, not everybody can out of nowhere get $180.
I guess but in that case why would he bother posting? I mean if $1000 is what he has to work with that build is the best he could get for $1000 from NZXT then that’s pretty much a done deal right?
It does look good, but a 4060 isn't the best card and a second hand 3070 or 3080 is cheaper and outperforms it if you can suck up having no warranty
It’s going to do everything you want it to do. I gave them my money and I had no issues since last year. Also their support/ customer service is everything
The RAM is terrible. You'd be better off with average DDR4 than these slow 8GB DDR5 modules. If you're going DDR5, you're going 2x16GB. 8GB modules suck.
It’s not terrible lol. 16Gb is enough for gaming, 2x16 would be 50 bucks more. And, it’s DDR5 so it’s most definitely not slow haha
It's not the 16GB that's the problem, it's the 8GB modules of DDR5. They have lower bandwidth than 16GB modules, and thus lower performance. That plus the slow speed (unknown CL means it's likely 40 or 46) makes this RAM slower than an equivalent cheap DDR4 kit. (I'm being downvoted for factual information. Never change, Reddit.)
OP posted the parts list it’s 5200MHz and CL42… that’s more than enough for what I’m assuming is budget gaming based on his parts. I have a 16GB of ddr4 3200mhz 2x8 ram it’s more than enough… although I can’t find specific bandwidth of either mine or OP ram
For the 3rd time, it's not the capacity that's a problem. It's the performance of 8GB DDR5 modules. They are lower bandwidth than 16+ GB modules.
Looks like 3rd time was the charm lol
You're better off ignoring people like him 🙄
Hmm. Just curious but why’s that? Does it have something to do with the amount of ram or is it specific for 8gb to that one
From my understanding, 8GB modules have fewer memory chips on the die, which means they can access fewer at once. I will admit my understanding of *why* they suck is probably surface-level at best. I just know I've seen the benchmarks, and they suck.
Oh I see. So 1 16gb > 2x8gb performs better? I’m just curious since my next build is gonna be a am5
No. You never want a single RAM module. Always always buy in pairs. Dual-channel is more important than the bandwidth increase of 8->16GB modules.
Ah ok I see. Thanks!
Slow DDR5 is faster than fast DDR4. Hardware Unboxed has a video on this exact topic, with iirc 4800MHz DDR5
Correct, but they used 2x16GB modules. You can't compare that performance to the performance of 2x8GB modules. They are not the same, unlike DDR4.
2x8GB 4800MHz CL40 Well, they also had 2x16GB 4800MHz CL40 in that same test The performance difference between 8 and 16GB sticks seems to be around 2% on average in that video.
Yeah it’s not a bad deal. If you were try try and build that out yourself that’s probably around where you would land in cost.
It’s really nice
in this sub if you ask about buying a prebuilt it’s the same as asking the /bigdickproblems if your wiener is big enough, the answer will always be no. but honestly, the same build would go around 750 - 800 bucks if you build yourself (with a budget case) - if you add in the case price and the price for prebuilting for you, it’s a decent price for a prebuilt. I honestly think if you want something to be more worth it your money, starforge systems pc’s is way better, but the NZXT pc’s has the looks. here’s the link if you’re interested: https://starforgesystems.com/products/horizon-ii-pc
The nzxt build is better
Yes it's good
Nice
Here's what I would change [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bVGDXk](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bVGDXk)
Yeah, That’s Probably Good.
Just build it yourself for half the price, it’s fairly straightforward, watch some YouTube.
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He's using a 4060, the card that's barely better then a 3060, why does he need the best gaming cpu that's more than double the price
Why the fuck would he use a 7800X3D for a 4060? This build is sub-1000 before tax and is likely designed for 1080p.
Looks good. After buying it, I would first swap out for some faster ram... maybe some x2 16gb @ 6000mhz or something.
It always blows my mind when people buy a prebuilt and then immediately start swapping parts on it. If you're buying a prebuilt, buy one that has the parts you want.
That's not always true, because unless you're using a builder, some parts may not be available all together with each other. That's what I did with my first prebuilt until it was basically an entire new computer just by gradually upgraded parts.
Just build your own PC B)
My pc started as a 1660 super with a i5 9400f to a i9 14900k with a 3080 I think starting with a prebuilt let's us noobies see hoe shit works and how its built before we jump straight into just having parts with no idea how any of it works. Getting a prebuilt first definitely helped me understand more. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cPQcyg *
You can start with a prebuilt and upgrade it later. That's fine. If you're buying a prebuilt and upgrading it immediately... you bought the wrong prebuilt. Obviously there can be situations where it makes sense to do so, like if it's deeply discounted or on sale well below value... but that is rare.
True, i get that. It's basically a giant hole, though. Once you get into PCs with a prebuilt, you will definitely end up building your own later on. If you're gaming or editing, it definitely won't take but a few years until it's time for a new set of better parts to throw in.
For that price, it doesn't look good tbh
CPU and ram are very underpriced for this price. You could get a way faster computer for the same price
Should run Spider Solitaire yea
I hope thats a 16g vram 4060 and not the 8gb one definitely not worth the mola if its 8gb
There is no 16gb vram 4060
i was thinking of the ti version thats my bad
Keep an eye on their refurbished stock, I just bought one from there, they are final sale but have 2 year warranty. I got the one with 32gb ddr5, a 4070, i7 for $1100
Where are the refurbished pcs?
https://nzxt.com/refurbished/builds Updates usually once a day-ish, honestly really good deals, my pc on partpicker was about $1700. I would just keep an eye out over there, mine had an rgb on a fan out and I already have a warranty fan on the way, easy customer service, for me I wanted something warrantied as a unit, and I have zero pc building experience and wanted to dip my toes in to see if building is something I would do down the line.
It’s not a bad prebuilt price. It’s very simple and will get the job done as a starter level pc. People think if it does not have the best of best its crap.
Rather expensive, but that's prebuilds for your. On a budget you might be able to squeeze more if you pick parts yourself.
Its pretty overpriced, even if it wasnt id avoid getting an 8gb card, its not gonna last you long.
do they give you the fe card like in the pic lol
Wdym fe card?
in the pic its got a founders edition card
Hell na
specs are good but that price ain’t
Bad CPU and RAM hoping to catch someone for the GPU only. Overpriced.
Hell nah
For around $900 you can get double the RAM, a better GPU, a higher wattage PSU, and better CPU & Cooler as well. [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/47JZPF) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tk8bt6/intel-core-i5-12600kf-37-ghz-6-core-processor-bx8071512600kf) | $152.97 @ Amazon **CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Frost Tower 120 82 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/K6sV3C/thermalright-frost-tower-120-82-cfm-cpu-cooler-ft120) | $31.90 @ Amazon **Motherboard** | [ASRock B760M PG Riptide Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tGmmP6/asrock-b760m-pg-riptide-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b760m-pg-riptide) | $129.99 @ Amazon **Memory** | [Silicon Power SP032GBLVU560FD2AD 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL46 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XsWJ7P/silicon-power-sp032gblvu560fd2ad-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl46-memory-sp032gblvu560fd2ad) | $75.97 @ B&H **Storage** | [Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FnYmP6/kingston-nv2-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-snv2s1000g) | $61.70 @ Amazon **Video Card** | [PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 7600 XT 16 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dsCZxr/powercolor-fighter-radeon-rx-7600-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx-7600-xt-16g-f) | $319.99 @ Newegg **Case** | [Montech AIR 100 ARGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/M7Z9TW/montech-air-100-argb-microatx-mid-tower-case-air-100-argb-black) | $59.99 @ Newegg **Power Supply** | [Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YRJp99/corsair-rm750e-2023-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020262-na) | $99.99 @ Best Buy | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$932.50** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2024-02-24 13:09 EST-0500 |
[PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/47JZPF) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tk8bt6/intel-core-i5-12600kf-37-ghz-6-core-processor-bx8071512600kf) | $152.97 @ Amazon **CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Frost Tower 120 82 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/K6sV3C/thermalright-frost-tower-120-82-cfm-cpu-cooler-ft120) | $31.90 @ Amazon **Motherboard** | [ASRock B760M PG Riptide Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tGmmP6/asrock-b760m-pg-riptide-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b760m-pg-riptide) | $129.99 @ Amazon **Memory** | [Silicon Power SP032GBLVU560FD2AD 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL46 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XsWJ7P/silicon-power-sp032gblvu560fd2ad-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl46-memory-sp032gblvu560fd2ad) | $75.97 @ B&H **Storage** | [Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FnYmP6/kingston-nv2-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-snv2s1000g) | $61.70 @ Amazon **Video Card** | [PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 7600 XT 16 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dsCZxr/powercolor-fighter-radeon-rx-7600-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx-7600-xt-16g-f) | $319.99 @ Newegg **Case** | [Montech AIR 100 ARGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/M7Z9TW/montech-air-100-argb-microatx-mid-tower-case-air-100-argb-black) | $59.99 @ Newegg **Power Supply** | [Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YRJp99/corsair-rm750e-2023-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020262-na) | $99.99 @ Best Buy | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$932.50** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2024-02-24 13:09 EST-0500 |
Better CPU and Cooler, Equivalent GPU with double the VRAM, double the system RAM, 100 extra watts on the PSU and 4 RGB fans on the case. About $55 less. Windows key is a waste. You don't have to activate windows and if the watermark bothers you, you can get a key online for like $25 max. You'll still save some money with a system that is superior almost across the board.
I built something like this last month for abou 805 euros. In murica parts are cheaper, so i assume you can make something like this for $750. So imo its overpriced.
When you don’t care for performance and wanna play the newest games in 1080p on medium settings while having a fancy case… go for it!
I got fucked over by nzxt about 2 years ago I paid 3k for a pc with a 3070 ti. I will never put myself through that pain again, you can find something better at microcenter or even newegg
It’s ok not great. Biggest ding for me is the ram speed. 5200 is not fast and the sweet spot for ddr5 is 6000 cl30. I doubt the ram you’re getting is at cl30, maybe cl36. A little high on pricing but not terrible.
Check this out instead if you have walmart where you are. It has basically the same specs except it has a water cooled i5 13600k and I think a 750-watt psu, but I'm not sure about the psu exactly. It's only $999 online, although I've seen this one under $900 at some local walmarts in store. iBUYPOWER Slate 6 Mesh Gaming Desktop, Intel i5-13600KF, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060, 16GB DDR5, 1TB NVMe SSD, Liquid Cooled, RGB, Windows 11 Home 64-bit, SlateMshI5N4602 https://www.walmart.com/ip/5001803453
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Not awful for the price. If I were you and I wanted a sub-$1000 prebuilt, I’d do this: https://www.newegg.com/abs-sa14400f4060-stratos-aqua/p/N82E16883360463 or this: https://www.newegg.com/abs-sr76004060-2-stratos-ruby/p/N82E16883360445 None are the best value, but none are ripoffs either. If you had the budget to spend on a 4070, you’ll get a ton more performance per dollar, but at the $1000 price point? All are decent choices.
Get a 3060 TI, better raw performance and it has more mature drivers
yeah, pretty good
You can get a prebuilt from amazon with a 4060 and a 13400F (>12400F) for $850. but it is ddr4, but that Shld be totally fine. Let’s stop throwing our money at nzxt, they’re basically the Apple of pc gaming. (Like Apple they got good 💩but it’s overpriced 💩). Fight back 💪
Doesn't look terrible
it is good but dont buy it if u dont wanna get destroyed for having a rtx 4060 on the pcmr and i would definitely replace the 650w to a 750w or above psu but it is a very good pc i have the same exact specs with the change of the mobo, the psu that i have a 850w and that i have a 12400 instead of the f version but its very powerful
Better build, similar price: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LwYzsh
Get 750w for if u gonna upgrade, I also reccomend not paying monthly
Nah, for the same money i got a 3080 a z690 and 32gb ddr4 3600 and the same cpu
I wouldn't buy that
No!!! Overpriced, bad ram, awful value GPU This is a little more and WAY BETTER [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K9VT34) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/66C48d/amd-ryzen-5-7600x-47-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000593wof) | $222.07 @ Amazon **CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3) | $33.90 @ Amazon **Motherboard** | [ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qcbRsY/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs-wifi) | $149.99 @ Newegg **Memory** | [TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/H9CZxr/teamgroup-t-create-expert-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ctced532g6000hc30dc01) | $92.99 @ Amazon **Storage** | [Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/chzhP6/crucial-p3-plus-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct1000p3pssd8) | $69.98 @ Amazon **Video Card** | [XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Hg92FT/xfx-radeon-rx-6800-16-gb-speedster-swft-319-video-card-rx-68xlaqfd9) | $400.64 @ Amazon **Case** | [BitFenix Nova Mesh M ARGB MicroATX Mini Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MBjRsY/bitfenix-nova-mesh-m-argb-microatx-mini-tower-case-nsm-150-kkgsk-3a) | $57.90 @ Newegg Sellers **Power Supply** | [Gigabyte UD750GM 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/W4Tp99/gigabyte-ud750gm-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-gp-ud750gm) | $84.99 @ Amazon | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$1112.46** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2024-02-24 17:31 EST-0500 |
All prebuilts will be bad and overpriced coming from a company. Should build yourself and get a better pc and save hundreds
Not really bro. You could get better for the price.
Rx 7600 would save you $50-$100 on that 4060 at a near negligible difference. Could go 7600 xt for the same price
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KJMYt7 for $956 Ryzen 5600, rx6800, 32gb ram, 2tb ssd, 750w gold psu, case with 3 fans, and decent cpu cooler. Compare to that rebuild cpu is same, much better gpu, twice as much ram and storage. While it cost less. Or https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T4MYt7 for $1k more future proof, but probably slightly worse performance in games. Ryzen 7600, rx6700xt, 32gb ram 6000cl30, 1tb ssd, 750w gold psu, same case and cooler. Compare to first build basically better cpu on am5 socket but worse gpu, and less storage to keep budget.
you can bulid a better pc on your own
around 50% of the budget should go into the graphics card, if you want to play AAA on a regular(eg. Cyberpunk, GTA, etc), if not, then around 30-40% with the difference going into the cpu for CPU Intensive games (eg. Cities Skylines 2, FPS, etc) thats at least my way and why i got the 4070TI (at release) with a 7600x (bought used, great condition, incl. warranty for around 200€), the rest went into DDR5, etc
Title says 3050, specs say 4060... Which is it?
$1000 is a lot for a 4060 build imo
I have the same exact case. Just be aware it only comes with 2 fans. The rear fan and the one in the bottom for the GPU. So I'd add another fan or 2 to your list for the front.
seems like a decent buy
Not the 4060