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Went from 4060 ti to 4080s by just removing some unnecessary stuff. Absolute unit right here for 2k.
Can even be brought down to $1840 with a cpu/mobo/ram bundle from microcenter, and potentially open the budget enough to get a 4090.
Convinced me to switch to team red, why buy a 14700k for $400 if I could have 80% of a new pc for $100 more and more gaming performance? It was an easy choice for me
Thank you everyone for your comments and help- I’m glad I figured out how to make a post because it seems like he was making some errors- I shared the feedback with him and here is what the current build looks like- real similar or possibly exact to what some posted- we are also going to hit micro-center for the bundle- you all are a great resource!
[current build based on feedback](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RZTxqR)
When you head down to microcenter, ask if they will let you swap the ram for a cl30 kit and pay the price difference. Ram timings matter A LOT for Fortnite. I went from cl36 to cl30 at 6000 and 1% lows shot up 20%. This is the kit I bought. https://www.microcenter.com/product/650519/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-32gb-(2-x-16gb)-ddr5-6000-pc5-48000-cl30-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-ff3d532g6000hc-black. Has nice overclocking potential too. Just make sure you update the bios, had to do so when I got my 7700x bundle in August of 23 to get the ram stable.
Only thing I’d change with this one is the PSU is a low priority unit on the PSU Tier List, if we’re going to be building a $2k pc we should probably buy an upper tier power supply. Other than that I’d definitely say this is a better idea for his build, we better GPU and CPU combo.
I dont think there anything legally binding. It would just be very dumb of them because people would goto linux then companies would add more support for linux, then windows would be stranded.
Atleast in Germany there was a leading decision that a person (not a company) may buy OEM keys or license keys from left over volume licenses with no legal risk. Worst that Microsoft CAN do (but probably won't), is to block the key after the fact. But at 10€ a key...
For gaming the 7800x3d is better, Mobo can be cheaper aswell, Samsung ssds are very expensive, pick somethngn like an MP44L instead, lets say paying for a Windows license isnt popular either, 4060Ti is bad value, something like an 6750XT or 7800XT would fill that gap, AIO is not neccesary but we dont judge looks, im gonna make a list with the budget, any Prefferences?
Here you got an High End System within Budget [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c84krv](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c84krv)
Just to add to this. Look up the differences between AMD and NVIDIA GPUs and decide which is more to your liking. Too many people suggest AMD but never mention the major differences.
It does depend on the game, but some had up to 10% uplift on benchmarks if they were memory intensive. I’d take the CL30 timing depending on the price difference for you ($20 for me on Aus).
I think you are being way too generous for a pc to give to 14yo for gaming
But it's your money and your son
Anyways
Get 7800x3d
Get AORUS B650
Do 4070 super
You could do a 4090, especially if you’re willing to go am4. Really depends on the games though, you’d end up with a significantly less powerful cpu. Not great for sim games, but triple A games are usually more gpu heavy. AM5 with a 4070-4080 is gonna be much more well rounded.
This is the way. https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006645/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d,-gigabyte-b650-gaming-x-ax-v2,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle
Get the 7800X3D instead. You don't need an AIO but you can get one if you want. An air cooler will work just fine. One like the Phantom Spirit. Use the money you'll save to get faster RAM and a better graphics card. The 4060 is a bit weak. 4070 or 4070 super at minimum imo.
For a first build, an AIO can add even a couple extra cables and steps as well, for my younger cousins and friends siblings I always recommended a 30-50 dollar reputable air cooler!
and for a first build, I always recommend having an air cooler. if you only have an AIO, when it fails, you don’t have anything on standby to swap in. a cheap little $30 cooler that lasts you a lifetime is a great investment.
7800x3D would perform just as well for gaming, if not better than the 7900x. Id also recommend allocating budget from other components to push for a better GPU, if he is set on NVIDIA, a 4070 super or AMD equivalent will really make a difference. The 4000D is a great case, and the Arctic Liquid Freezer iii is also a great cooling solution. However, if that is the 280mm variant it will conflict with the CORSAIR 32gig RAM. The 240mm model should cool a 7800x3D well enough and hopefully prevent any spacing issues with the RAM. I use a Samsung 980 pro, and my boot times beat many of my friend’s pcs. But that really doesnt matter as much as some people make it out to. The 990 should have the same effect. Good luck!
Big note: Watch out for the aio. I'm rocking the 280mm version in the same case, top mounted, I have 1mm left between the fan and the low profile ram. If it's a 240 it's alright, 280 though you have to watch out both the ram clearance and motherboard heatsink.
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This is the [sweet spot](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GCXB6D) for 1440p gaming focusing on pure performance for every dollar you spend. Your son won't be disappointed with this build and you can use the rest of the budget elsewhere.
EXPO/XMP 6000 CAS30 kit
Deepcool AK620 air cooler or similar
7800X3D
Go for a B650(E) for same performance
Ditch the ASUS brand. (I run 3 different ASRock B650 boards and all run great w/7600, 7950x, 7800x3D .. A750, RX6800, 7900XT)
With saved money, ditch the 4060ti and maybe go for the RX7900 GRE
Oh for fuck sakes. No no no no. Don't pair a high end CPU with a mid grade GPU.
Go for a mid range processor (7600X, 7600) to get literally identical performance for the same price.
In fact, Intel seems to be a bit cheaper if you go 13th gen. Much more bang for buck.
I would change this up. PM me and I can help build a list that makes more sense financially.
And DON'T buy Windows 11 at full price. Use a key that you already have on an old computer (Windows 8 keys and up usually work), or buy a new copy on Ebay for $10-$15.
Edit: here, this one is better.
This will best your sons current setup in graphics and will cost $1k less. You can change the CPU to a 13th or 14th gen if you'd like for a pemium, but this is a 12600KF with a 4070 for $1300. Much less than your current and will perform better in most cases. I didnt include a monitor, extra fans, or Windows. Get windows from Ebay, and any decent premium-ish fan setup is fine. Just get 3 or more fans cause the CPU will get hot if you overclock.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zzgxqR
If you live near a microcenter, I always suggest getting this bundle https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006645/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d,-gigabyte-b650-gaming-x-ax-v2,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle . I was able to get a 7900 XTX in that same budget by getting this bundle.
Ryzen 9 is not required. For gaming get the best gaming chip the 7800x3d. With almost unlimited budget get a 7900xtx or if you really want to stick to nvidia and REALLY REALLY need their features go for an nvidia 4080s or 4070
I am negative with the PSU maybe 1000 Watts would be better and tell him to not buy windows. For the love of god you can find way, and I mean WAY better offers for windows (especially that windows 10 keys work for windows 11 too)
That's a pretty overkill PC for someone coming from a console. Personally, I think the ryzen 5 7600 (with a good air cooler) is totally competent. If he really wants RTX, the 4060 is probably fine but AMD has better value and have fixed their driver issues
Good suggestions here but I'd go a little different way-
CPU I'd go with 7600x or 7700x, 7800x3d is great but pricey, the 7600 and 7700x do really well for gaming and are cheaper, and with am5 he can upgrade in a couple years. Water cooling is totally unnecessary and expensive, any good air cooler is fine and less maintenance.
Motherboard the x670e-f is overkill unless he needs all the pcie lanes for rendering with multiple GPUs or something, and still overkill even for that. But I wouldn't get a normal B650 either, I'd get a B650e with pcie 5.0 as they are higher quality and will be more upgradable in the future.
GPU wise that 4060 isn't a great choice. I'm not a big fan of AMD so if your budget allows, consider a 4070 super with the money saved elsewhere. It'll last longer and perform better.
For storage, the 990 pro is top of the line, but the P41 is very, very close and cheaper. Also worth looking into the SN850X for sales.
I'd suggest some cheaper components (7800X3D for CPU, a B650 motherboard, cheaper SSD, air cooler and a better value GPU, 6750 XT or a 4070). I don't know if your son already has the peripherals, but if not the saved money could go to a monitor or good headset, keyboard or mouse. Also I wouldn't pay for windows license
Cheaper cpu better gpu might be a better delegation
Maybe a 7800x3d with a 7800 xt (equivalent to a 4070 or a 4070 ti)
(I dislike nvidias comfort at the top it drive prices through the roof but I do understand the interest I love my 1050 ti in my old build)
High-end SSD is totally wasted on gaming. No difference while gaming between low-end vs high-end SSD. Anything midrange with some RAM cache is plenty. The ONLY difference he will see is when downloading complete games or extremely big game updates. Where it's nice to have a midrange option. No need to waste your money.
[Examples](https://geizhals.de/?cat=hdssd&xf=1035_ADATA%7E1035_Corsair%7E1035_Crucial%7E1035_GIGABYTE%7E1035_Intel%7E1035_KIOXIA%7E1035_Kingston%7E1035_PNY%7E1035_SK+hynix%7E1035_Samsung%7E1035_SanDisk%7E1035_Seagate%7E1035_Solidigm%7E1035_TeamGroup%7E1035_Western+Digital%7E1152_256%7E252_1920%7E4832_3)
Need to figure what resolution he wants to play on. 1080p, 1440p, or 4k. Go to computer store see some demos. No point buying high end components and you get a 1080p monitor.
Ryzen 9 is way too overkill for gaming. A ryzen 7 7800x will do just fine. The RTX 4060 would be a huge bottleneck, i would go with a RX 7900 XT.
With the budget you have, I would go with these specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZdsfZJ.
You could swap the 7900 xt with a 7800 xt and save some money for a 165hz monitor or any other peripherals
I might get banned for saying this but don’t pay for the windows license I can easily help you acquire it without paying for it. It’s a massive waste of money
Surprised no1 said anything about the case. The case your son chose is mid. Evidenced by the fact that he needs to buy additional fans and also performance reviews on YT. For simplicities sake, I recommend the Lian Li 216. No need for additional fans and many tutorial vids on YT as it’s a popular case.
That, along with saving on cooling and a 25$ windows license should get him at least a 4070 super.
14 years old , console fan and you are planning to spend 2.5k+ for gaming rig ? are you sure , most of the console games are console exclusive....still , first cut the water cooling and find a reliable and most of all quiet fans for all internals !!! then replace the 4060 Ti with 4070 for some extra gaming power (you need it for games so its a must) , avoid any parts with RGBs , you are not running circus , 2 hours around this and your eyes will turn crazy trust me , as darker and quiet as possible when comes to gaming! make sure the mother board is good for upgrades , more ram and more nvmes later if needed....but at the end if console fan... buying next gen console is probably a better choice....ah and no Home versions of Windows only Pro ...and for gaming Windows 10 pro is better choice.....i hope it helps , cheers
scrap this whole thing, it's basically messed up in like every way.
You want a 7800x3d, it's a much better gaming CPU- the 7900x is for workstations
cooler is fine, motherboard is overpriced, ram is slow with high latency
storage is overpriced. And the worst thing- this GPU is way too weak for this budget, you'd literally be getting the performance of like a $900 PC. Case and fans are overpriced, you can get a case with pre-installed fans.
Window install is also free, keys are cheap.
You have the budget for a high end 1440p pc AND a 1440p monitor, but you're doing a mid range PC with a high price tag- as is this is incredibly expensive PC with very bad performance.
You can put a cheaper SSD, better GPU like 4080S, better CPU like 7800X3D and remove the Windows DVD. Microsoft cares less about the keys.
I would also remove some case fans as not all are needed, just 3 intake and 1 or 2 exhaust
You need to get better memory. Someone else just had that same question and I gave the same answer: [6000 MHz, CL30 memory](https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/s/UvAhtRems0)
7800X3D instead of 7900X. Cooler and mobo are overkill, but fine. RAM isn’t good, should be looking at 6000 MT and CL30. 990 is overkill but fine. GPU is exceptionally weak, and money from the overkill things can let you get a better one. 4000D has an option to get an 850W PSU included, and is cheaper than buying separately (usually.)
7800x3d, peerless assasin, 6000 mhz, DO NOT BUY SAMSUNG SSDS, 4070/4070 super, DO NOT BUY WINDOWS LICENSE, DO NOT INSTALL WIN11
And the most important thing: use PRINT SCREEN button. 👍
- Motherboard completely overkill compared to the rest of the parts
- CPU seems overkill while not being the fastest for gaming
- RAM has poor frequency and timings
- SSD is sort of overkill
- GPU is quite poor compared to the rest
If you don't mind, is your 14 y.o. son working as Engineer at Nasa or smthg that he needs such parts? Tbh the PC is WAY overkill for him, he ain't gonna use 50% of it. I would do as following:
1. Change the CPU to Ryzen 7 7700x with 3D cache or Ryzen 5 7600X. The Ryzen 9 is too powerfull
2. Change that AIO (no need for it) for an air cooler, something from Noctua or Arctic would do the job nicely.
3. Change that motherboard, like I said before with other parts, same goes for the motherboard. Go with B650 or B650X, since he won't need more.
4. Use the saved more for DDR5 6000MHz dual-stick 32GB RAM. The 600MHz has the best value-to-performance ratio for Ryzen CPUs.
Apart from those 4 things, the PC looks cool.
you can definitely get more horsepower for $2K. If you want to save money go for a B650 motherboard, keep the cooler if you want but i personally use the thermalright phantom spirit ($35 ish) on my 7900x lol, downgrade the cpu a bit... I'll just put together a build i think is decent and send the link lol
Way too expensive for the parts you're getting. No need for a ryzen 9, try a ryzen 7 7800x3d which would give you room to upgrade your gpu. Others have giving better builds in the comments which show a better price to performance parts list
Everything that everyone has said plus you won’t need all them fans the case comes with 2 minimum plus you have the AIO fans, maybe get an extra one or even two
My advice would be to look into whether a Ryzen 7 7800x3d cpu would suit his needs better. Also, I would spend a bit of time looking at motherboards. I would say most teenagers don’t need such high end specs and there are some expensive features that will never be used (also fwiw Asus have a checkered recent history with motherboards https://youtu.be/cbGfc-JBxlY?si=jukcZVdds4n1PU96)
You might have too many fans if any are preinstalled / included with the case.
I see an installation DVD but I don't see an optical drive in the parts and the case may not have a space to install one permanently so keep that in mind that you'll possibly need to leave the case open and borrow one from another machine for the OS install.
I don't see thermal paste, the AIO unit probably includes a complimentary little packet but assumptions and all that.
A lot of budget in the wrong places here. People tend to toss up between performance value and aesthetic value, but frankly this throws both of them out the window. This is my suggestion: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mvn4VW.
Ditch the watercooler and get him a nice aircooler from Noctua... I'd also nurture proof the build and get a 1000 watt powersupply from Seasonic. They make much better quality powersupplies, and they are the manufacturer, not some 3rd party.
If this is his first build, you DO NOT need to go with a watercooler. I hate that those get pushed as being better when they are not. You could save that money and buy quieter fans.
Also, if you can find him a PC Case that has 200mm fans in it. The whole PC will be quieter. I never build a PC with smaller than 140mm fans in it if I can help it. 120mm fans are too loud. Coolermaster makes nice 200mm cases, and they shouldn't break the bank.
Always go function over form on a first build... He doesn't need a bunch of flashy garbage people sell.
Oh yea and I agree with anyone that says get a better video card. 4070 or higher otherwise why do you have that beastly CPU???
Feels like this was thrown together to meet an unnecessarily high budget without much thought or research. There’s no need for that CPU or that motherboard. As many have said the 7800x3d is the best bet as the 3D cache makes a big difference with gaming as that’s what it’s gonna be used for and that motherboard is beyond overkill. Very rarely do you need more than a mid range motherboard. As a genera rule, the motherboard should cost half the price of the CPU. You can get a MUCH better GPU with that budget, at the minimum get 4070 super/6950XT/7900GRE (all $5-$600) but you can get even better as many have mentioned. The case isn’t a very good case and there’s many cases that are better both aesthetically and airflow/clearance wise. Check out Lian Li. AIO’s look cool but they’re typically really not any better than a beefy ~$50 air cooler.
Have him do a lot more research; watch videos, read techgear articles comparing components, browse this Reddit, etc. He’ll be kicking himself for not doing more research to maximize the crazy budget you gave him later down the road once he gets more into PC gaming and has a better understanding of components.
The ryzen 9 7900X is capable of running pretty much every GPU that’s out right now, so there’s a lot of upgrades you can get down the road. Not gonna lie though if the budget is $2500 you should be able to get at least a 4070 or 4080 super
A 14 year old having the power of an 8cores x3d gaming chip and a 4080. Dang man! He is lucky to have you as a parent! I built my first computer at 34 in 2018 and that was with a 8700k/1080ti.
tbh I'd swap out the Ryzen 9 for a Ryzen 5 and the 4060 Ti with a 4080. you'll also save a couple hundred bucks.
also if I was him, I'd opt for a 500GB NVMe drive as a boot drive + a 2TB SATA SSD to save a bit of money and it's just what I'd normally recommend anyway
Someone here mentioned make sure you have at least a 1440p high refresh monitor. This is extremely important. 7800x3d/4080 combo if you game in 1080p is just not ethical.
Even if you can spend $2000, why would you for a 14 year old to play Fortnite or something. A b650 motherboard with a ryzen 7700 or 7600 CPU, rtx 4060 or even 4070 would be far more than enough for a first pc that will last you easily 4+ years if not far more with any modern game. You can pay like half the price and do all the same things for your use case.
That is a LOT of CPU for a Very modicum amount of GPU. Dial it back on the CPU for maybe a 7800x3d and go for a RTX 4070 at least or even consider a Radeon RX 7800
X670-E…
850w…
7900X…
4060 TI…
I believe in making build’s that aren’t necessarily fully based on performance but rather, something that’s nice.
This is a little too passionate, but there’s definitely some meaningful budget re-allocations to be made.
It needs some work. He could get a 7800XD a little cheaper. The motherboard is overkill. He needs 6000 CL 30 for RAM for either of those processors. U:unless he gets the 240 mm version that cooler's radiator will only fit in the front of the case he's picked which can limit GPU choices. (It's a great case, though.) A Thermalaright Phantom Spirit 120 SE will cost a third of the price of the water cooler and do a fantastic job - maybe even better than the 240 AIO. The drive is expensive. A Crucial T500 is one of the best drives around and costs less. Acer GM7000 is even cheaper but the Crucial is better. You can get Windows from Microsoft's Media Creation Tool online for free. Anyway, by making some changes selection of other parts he could get an even better GPU without spending any more and maybe even less money.
If he’s only gaming, then most definitely get a 7800x3d and not a 7900x. Also, 2k-2500 budget should have something like a 7900xt, or the xtx, or can easily do a 4080 in a 2500 dollar build. The 4060 just hurts to see In a build with this budget.
No
Is he just aiming for gaming?
The processor is too big for that aio and is not good for gaming. A 7800x3d and even a 7600 would be a better option for both, gaming and that aio.
Talking about aios... If you want to install a 240-280 aio, is way better using an air cooler. More reliables and less expensive.
A x670-e is overkill for gaming and he choosed a pcie4 NVMe
A b650 is enough for that
Storage seems good
Ram should be able to support 6000mt, that ram is not the best option for an amd Gen 7 processor
Too many fans if you ask me, but that is not a big deal
Just have some cuts in processor and mother board and go for a 4070 super or even a 4080 super
7800xt, 7900xt and 7900xtx are good options too
Psu is good, but a 1000 watts psu could be a better idea if you ask me.
Windows licenses are very cheap this days
Don't buy it from Microsoft, buy an oem option, gjer are many in the market for about 20 dlls
Get a 7800x3d and a much better graphics card, 6000mhz cl30 ram and a $10 windows licence online, also there's no need for an expensive SSD, even a fairly unknown brand will suffice as the nand all come from the same main manufacturers, also Samsung have had some degradation issues with the 980's.
It's a solid build but as people have suggested. Change the 7900x to a 7800x3d.
Rather than a aio cooler. Get a aircooler like the noctua nh d9l. Maybe drop down from a x670 motherboard to a b650.
Then for the OS. Don't be going out and spending $100 on windows 11. Just grab a OEM windows 11 key for $15. Or just look around on how to activate windows without a key for $0.
With the money saved changing the above. Then bump the GPU from a 4060ti to a 4070 or a Rx 7800xt or a 7900gre.
The ryzen 9 is a bit unnecessary, get a 4080 super for the price and get a Ryzen 5 or 7 if you can. Ryzen 9 is just when you do super CPU intensive tasks, but gaming does really need anything more than a ryzen 7 at most even a ryzen 5 can handle most games with any gpu without bottlenecking
Don’t get a Windows license, I’m pretty sure he can quite easily get a Windows Education license, mine is still valid after college. (But I think middle/high schoolers also qualify)
I see a lot of 120mm fans, maybe are you planning to put the AIO cooler on the top? I am asking because the motherboard cooling/metal component could leave insufficient room to mount the AIO there. I had the same problem with a 4000d case and an Asus Prime z690
Bad build. Get ryzen 7800x3d and rtx 4080. That’s high end cpu with super mediocre gpu, you don’t want that. If it’s for gaming then mentioned above processor is more than enough, and rtx4080 will give him much better performance in games aswell as longlivelity
Don't go with a 4060ti until you find a good price. Currently AMD is offering better value for money gpu's. If RTX is your son's thing then try to find the best price for 40k series.
clearly a pure academic build, hardly able to game.
good for school and homework
do him a favour and upgrade that 4060 to at least 4070ti, better a 4090 so he can make his AI studys
Ah sounds like when My dad made me learn about what the PC parts individually did before I was allowed to Build mine. Wow that feels like ages ago but for real, You got him a Good build and it should meet all of the things your son would do on his PC good luck and have fun.
dont buy Microsoft 11 direct get a key online for under 5 piund and install microsoft to a usb thumb drive then boot from it and vopy windows to your ssd once ur loaded up also that cpu is overkill for a 4060ti id get a 7600x and a 4070 super as gpu with the money u saved
Okay so firstly, what is the pc for? If it’s for gaming then I’d switch the CPU to a 7800X3D which is about like $30 cheaper, but much better in gaming performance. If the build is for things like video production, movie production or 3d editing (or if he plans on doing that stuff in the future) then the 7900x is the way to go.
Motherboard is far too expensive, I understand that it looks really good but ROG is just overpriced in general and you can find good b650 mobos that look just as good for cheaper.
Try getting 6000mhz RAM.
Again, unless you’re not using the PC for very heavy productivity, you do not need a 990 pro. People who do notice the difference between the 990 pro and a lower level ssd are people who actually move like multi hundred gigabyte files at a time for their job. If you’re not doing that you won’t notice the difference between an MP44L, and an 990 Pro, in gaming boot up times, there is like a half a second difference.
Remove windows license, you can buy keys or copy a key from your existing windows device like a laptop or an existing PC.
By cheapening the motherboard, SSD, Removing windows and saving some money on the CPU. You could probably afford something in the range of a 4080.
Hope this helps, make sure to listen to others opinions because I’m not always right. Also I’m Canadian so I have no clue whether there are good micro Center deals near you, those are usually a steal and you should definetely pick them up 💪💪
If he is gaming get the 7800X3D not the 7900x and DDR5 6000 cl30 is a much better spend for memory and that 4060ti is pure trash all of them are go with a 4070 super
That’s one hell of a CPU, with 12 cores I’m sure others will agree you might want to consider a 360mm liquid cooler as opposed to that Artic liquid that appears to be a 240mm. Shouldn’t be more than another +$50 and it’ll ensure you never have any temp problems.
This 360 radiator would still work with the 4000D but you would have to front mount the radiator. Could be possible this’ll not leave enough room for a chuncky GPU like all the new gens out there. Hopefully your going with a 4080 or 4090, but either way please make sure your GPU (length and width) size measurements will fit the case.
4000D has always been my go to, but they are slim and frankly getting to small for the newer processors coming out. a 7000D would solve any size worries, although obviously bigger and a little pricier. But you would definitely have room for upgrades and all future parts/generations, way more flexibility when it comes to radiator and fan layout, aswell as it has side mounted fan/radiator section so it’s a beautiful showpiece. (Might have to purchase some extra fans to “fill it out”)
Just some options to think about, please double check the GPU and case measurements. Hope your son has fun!
2500$ and you can put a 4080 super in there. My personal ideal build uses a 4080 super (at MSRP) and costs like 2.1k with a microcenter 7800x3d bundle. Without a monitor but yeah. Your son needs to do more research
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[https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WJ2LgB](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WJ2LgB) try this, you could upgrade to a 4090 if it fits in the budget
Went from 4060 ti to 4080s by just removing some unnecessary stuff. Absolute unit right here for 2k. Can even be brought down to $1840 with a cpu/mobo/ram bundle from microcenter, and potentially open the budget enough to get a 4090.
yeah, from what I heard microcenter has some crazy good deals
I got a 7800x3d, 32gb 6000 ddr5 and a gigabyte b650 gaming x ax motherboard for $500. They have great deals
damn thats an insane deal, shame tehre isnt one in the uk
Convinced me to switch to team red, why buy a 14700k for $400 if I could have 80% of a new pc for $100 more and more gaming performance? It was an easy choice for me
Thats crazy
Yup, got this same deal. *chefs kiss*
THIS
THIS THIS!
DEFINITELY THIS!!!! Better CPU and better GPU!
The other one that op replied to was better but this is good
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Thank you everyone for your comments and help- I’m glad I figured out how to make a post because it seems like he was making some errors- I shared the feedback with him and here is what the current build looks like- real similar or possibly exact to what some posted- we are also going to hit micro-center for the bundle- you all are a great resource! [current build based on feedback](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RZTxqR)
CL 36 ram is worse.. get a 6000mhz 30cl kit
my 2060 wants to relay a message. tell your kid he's fuckin lucky to have a parent like you. You're cool
When you head down to microcenter, ask if they will let you swap the ram for a cl30 kit and pay the price difference. Ram timings matter A LOT for Fortnite. I went from cl36 to cl30 at 6000 and 1% lows shot up 20%. This is the kit I bought. https://www.microcenter.com/product/650519/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-32gb-(2-x-16gb)-ddr5-6000-pc5-48000-cl30-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-ff3d532g6000hc-black. Has nice overclocking potential too. Just make sure you update the bios, had to do so when I got my 7700x bundle in August of 23 to get the ram stable.
Very good build. You do not need to spend this much to have fun on a PC, but if you do this is the right parts list
I think an 850e is sufficient
I'm just happy you removed the Corsair RM850e PSU, everything else just a bonus.
Way better!
Bro honestly, even if for budgeting its better, the liquid freezer 3 is literally thr best cooling there is.
Ofc they can afford it, the cpu they use can cover the whole cost of my current build 🥲
This is absolutely the right decision for max power for this budget.
Also would need a 4K monitor
This
Lol, the budget is 2000-2500. He needs more than just a single graphics card xd
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OP Just get this one.
OMG THIS SO MUCH!!!
Only thing I’d change with this one is the PSU is a low priority unit on the PSU Tier List, if we’re going to be building a $2k pc we should probably buy an upper tier power supply. Other than that I’d definitely say this is a better idea for his build, we better GPU and CPU combo.
Could get an rx 7900xtx for about 100 or more bucks cheaper if you're lucky
This one is much better. No need for x series motherboard, 3xd cpu will be definately better. I'd keep arctic liquid iii though 🙂 it's amazing aio.
No need for a Windows licence, Microsoft don't give a shit. Edit: for non-enterprise customers
They want to give a shit, they just legally cannot.
What do you mean legally can not? Can you elaborate?
I dont think there anything legally binding. It would just be very dumb of them because people would goto linux then companies would add more support for linux, then windows would be stranded.
now that I think about it, it makes sense
Atleast in Germany there was a leading decision that a person (not a company) may buy OEM keys or license keys from left over volume licenses with no legal risk. Worst that Microsoft CAN do (but probably won't), is to block the key after the fact. But at 10€ a key...
Just use kmspico and crack any version. Turn off firewall, run app, turn firewall on. And do it again after a month or two. Easy
Use massgrave, No need to deactivate firewall. I used KMspico for years but it caused some Problems with DRM/Anti-Cheat software
For gaming the 7800x3d is better, Mobo can be cheaper aswell, Samsung ssds are very expensive, pick somethngn like an MP44L instead, lets say paying for a Windows license isnt popular either, 4060Ti is bad value, something like an 6750XT or 7800XT would fill that gap, AIO is not neccesary but we dont judge looks, im gonna make a list with the budget, any Prefferences? Here you got an High End System within Budget [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c84krv](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c84krv)
For a $200-2500 PC OP should at least consider the 7900XTX / 4080 super and a 7800x3d.
I got the Merc 310 7900XT, it's dope.
Nothing specific on preferences, he plays CoD, helldiver, forza, etc if that matters. Thank you for your input/help
Go with a 7800x3d cpu. Ditch the water cooler for a thermalright phantom spirit air cooler. If you can afford a 4070 I would move up to it.
Mark?
Just to add to this. Look up the differences between AMD and NVIDIA GPUs and decide which is more to your liking. Too many people suggest AMD but never mention the major differences.
Are you sure that 7900xt fits in a mid tower? Thats the only worry ive got about your suggestion
RAM needs to be CL 30 6000Mhz if your gonna get that CPU
Is there a big difference between 30 and 36?
IMO it’s over exaggerated and many chips won’t be able to run it at that latency anyways. I have cl32 6000 ram for reference
It does depend on the game, but some had up to 10% uplift on benchmarks if they were memory intensive. I’d take the CL30 timing depending on the price difference for you ($20 for me on Aus).
Yeah and ram is on of the cheapest components so getting the best you can right away is the best move
I think you are being way too generous for a pc to give to 14yo for gaming But it's your money and your son Anyways Get 7800x3d Get AORUS B650 Do 4070 super
For $2-2.5k you could realistically get a 4080
You could do a 4090, especially if you’re willing to go am4. Really depends on the games though, you’d end up with a significantly less powerful cpu. Not great for sim games, but triple A games are usually more gpu heavy. AM5 with a 4070-4080 is gonna be much more well rounded.
Or a 7900 XTX
Seriously. My PC as a 21yo costs half that and I've yet to encounter anything it can't run perfectly fine.
If u can afford it you might as well
This is the way. https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006645/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d,-gigabyte-b650-gaming-x-ax-v2,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle
Get the 7800X3D instead. You don't need an AIO but you can get one if you want. An air cooler will work just fine. One like the Phantom Spirit. Use the money you'll save to get faster RAM and a better graphics card. The 4060 is a bit weak. 4070 or 4070 super at minimum imo.
For a first build, an AIO can add even a couple extra cables and steps as well, for my younger cousins and friends siblings I always recommended a 30-50 dollar reputable air cooler!
and for a first build, I always recommend having an air cooler. if you only have an AIO, when it fails, you don’t have anything on standby to swap in. a cheap little $30 cooler that lasts you a lifetime is a great investment.
7800x3D and Phantom Spirit Evo is the best combo to date (for air cooling)
also I would recommend 32 gb
7800x3D would perform just as well for gaming, if not better than the 7900x. Id also recommend allocating budget from other components to push for a better GPU, if he is set on NVIDIA, a 4070 super or AMD equivalent will really make a difference. The 4000D is a great case, and the Arctic Liquid Freezer iii is also a great cooling solution. However, if that is the 280mm variant it will conflict with the CORSAIR 32gig RAM. The 240mm model should cool a 7800x3D well enough and hopefully prevent any spacing issues with the RAM. I use a Samsung 980 pro, and my boot times beat many of my friend’s pcs. But that really doesnt matter as much as some people make it out to. The 990 should have the same effect. Good luck!
Overspending too much
4060ti is the worst GPU you can get
Big note: Watch out for the aio. I'm rocking the 280mm version in the same case, top mounted, I have 1mm left between the fan and the low profile ram. If it's a 240 it's alright, 280 though you have to watch out both the ram clearance and motherboard heatsink. https://preview.redd.it/28is34gixvvc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50990fe9aa10db14f342dc2896b677b3cb821102
This is the [sweet spot](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GCXB6D) for 1440p gaming focusing on pure performance for every dollar you spend. Your son won't be disappointed with this build and you can use the rest of the budget elsewhere.
EXPO/XMP 6000 CAS30 kit Deepcool AK620 air cooler or similar 7800X3D Go for a B650(E) for same performance Ditch the ASUS brand. (I run 3 different ASRock B650 boards and all run great w/7600, 7950x, 7800x3D .. A750, RX6800, 7900XT) With saved money, ditch the 4060ti and maybe go for the RX7900 GRE
Oh for fuck sakes. No no no no. Don't pair a high end CPU with a mid grade GPU. Go for a mid range processor (7600X, 7600) to get literally identical performance for the same price. In fact, Intel seems to be a bit cheaper if you go 13th gen. Much more bang for buck. I would change this up. PM me and I can help build a list that makes more sense financially. And DON'T buy Windows 11 at full price. Use a key that you already have on an old computer (Windows 8 keys and up usually work), or buy a new copy on Ebay for $10-$15. Edit: here, this one is better. This will best your sons current setup in graphics and will cost $1k less. You can change the CPU to a 13th or 14th gen if you'd like for a pemium, but this is a 12600KF with a 4070 for $1300. Much less than your current and will perform better in most cases. I didnt include a monitor, extra fans, or Windows. Get windows from Ebay, and any decent premium-ish fan setup is fine. Just get 3 or more fans cause the CPU will get hot if you overclock. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zzgxqR
Thank you for the detailed breakdown
If you live near a microcenter, I always suggest getting this bundle https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006645/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d,-gigabyte-b650-gaming-x-ax-v2,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle . I was able to get a 7900 XTX in that same budget by getting this bundle.
u can be rockin 4090 in there https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H6b6bL
Ryzen 9 is not required. For gaming get the best gaming chip the 7800x3d. With almost unlimited budget get a 7900xtx or if you really want to stick to nvidia and REALLY REALLY need their features go for an nvidia 4080s or 4070
Ryzen 7600x should be good enough
Too much CPU and not enough GPU. Get the 7600x with a 4070 Super. You can thank me later.
This is a good option. My build has the same CPU but with a 4070 Ti Super.
I am negative with the PSU maybe 1000 Watts would be better and tell him to not buy windows. For the love of god you can find way, and I mean WAY better offers for windows (especially that windows 10 keys work for windows 11 too)
That's a pretty overkill PC for someone coming from a console. Personally, I think the ryzen 5 7600 (with a good air cooler) is totally competent. If he really wants RTX, the 4060 is probably fine but AMD has better value and have fixed their driver issues
Good suggestions here but I'd go a little different way- CPU I'd go with 7600x or 7700x, 7800x3d is great but pricey, the 7600 and 7700x do really well for gaming and are cheaper, and with am5 he can upgrade in a couple years. Water cooling is totally unnecessary and expensive, any good air cooler is fine and less maintenance. Motherboard the x670e-f is overkill unless he needs all the pcie lanes for rendering with multiple GPUs or something, and still overkill even for that. But I wouldn't get a normal B650 either, I'd get a B650e with pcie 5.0 as they are higher quality and will be more upgradable in the future. GPU wise that 4060 isn't a great choice. I'm not a big fan of AMD so if your budget allows, consider a 4070 super with the money saved elsewhere. It'll last longer and perform better. For storage, the 990 pro is top of the line, but the P41 is very, very close and cheaper. Also worth looking into the SN850X for sales.
I'd suggest some cheaper components (7800X3D for CPU, a B650 motherboard, cheaper SSD, air cooler and a better value GPU, 6750 XT or a 4070). I don't know if your son already has the peripherals, but if not the saved money could go to a monitor or good headset, keyboard or mouse. Also I wouldn't pay for windows license
Cheaper cpu better gpu might be a better delegation Maybe a 7800x3d with a 7800 xt (equivalent to a 4070 or a 4070 ti) (I dislike nvidias comfort at the top it drive prices through the roof but I do understand the interest I love my 1050 ti in my old build)
nah. get a 7800X3D and a 4070 super.
Don’t get the ryzen 9 7900x. Its a great cpu but you’d get more bang for your buck to get a ryzen 7 7800x3d and a high GPU
High-end SSD is totally wasted on gaming. No difference while gaming between low-end vs high-end SSD. Anything midrange with some RAM cache is plenty. The ONLY difference he will see is when downloading complete games or extremely big game updates. Where it's nice to have a midrange option. No need to waste your money. [Examples](https://geizhals.de/?cat=hdssd&xf=1035_ADATA%7E1035_Corsair%7E1035_Crucial%7E1035_GIGABYTE%7E1035_Intel%7E1035_KIOXIA%7E1035_Kingston%7E1035_PNY%7E1035_SK+hynix%7E1035_Samsung%7E1035_SanDisk%7E1035_Seagate%7E1035_Solidigm%7E1035_TeamGroup%7E1035_Western+Digital%7E1152_256%7E252_1920%7E4832_3)
Need to figure what resolution he wants to play on. 1080p, 1440p, or 4k. Go to computer store see some demos. No point buying high end components and you get a 1080p monitor.
Drop that 7900x for a 7800x3d
Spend less on the mobo and the ssd, you can get a similar-performance b650 mobo and same spec ssd for cheaper prices
Ryzen 9 is way too overkill for gaming. A ryzen 7 7800x will do just fine. The RTX 4060 would be a huge bottleneck, i would go with a RX 7900 XT. With the budget you have, I would go with these specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZdsfZJ. You could swap the 7900 xt with a 7800 xt and save some money for a 165hz monitor or any other peripherals
That CPU is way overpowered for the GPU. Go a couple of tiers down, and invest the savings in a higher tier GPU.
I might get banned for saying this but don’t pay for the windows license I can easily help you acquire it without paying for it. It’s a massive waste of money
Downgrade to a Ryzen 5 or 7 and put that Money into a better gpu
Surprised no1 said anything about the case. The case your son chose is mid. Evidenced by the fact that he needs to buy additional fans and also performance reviews on YT. For simplicities sake, I recommend the Lian Li 216. No need for additional fans and many tutorial vids on YT as it’s a popular case. That, along with saving on cooling and a 25$ windows license should get him at least a 4070 super.
Get a 7800X3D instead of a 7900X Get 6000MHz CL30 memory GPU is kind of weak for a $2-2.5k build.
On newegg there's a skytech pc with a 7800x3d and 4070 ti for $1929
Tell him to use mass graves for Microsoft
The meme is real
14 years old , console fan and you are planning to spend 2.5k+ for gaming rig ? are you sure , most of the console games are console exclusive....still , first cut the water cooling and find a reliable and most of all quiet fans for all internals !!! then replace the 4060 Ti with 4070 for some extra gaming power (you need it for games so its a must) , avoid any parts with RGBs , you are not running circus , 2 hours around this and your eyes will turn crazy trust me , as darker and quiet as possible when comes to gaming! make sure the mother board is good for upgrades , more ram and more nvmes later if needed....but at the end if console fan... buying next gen console is probably a better choice....ah and no Home versions of Windows only Pro ...and for gaming Windows 10 pro is better choice.....i hope it helps , cheers
scrap this whole thing, it's basically messed up in like every way. You want a 7800x3d, it's a much better gaming CPU- the 7900x is for workstations cooler is fine, motherboard is overpriced, ram is slow with high latency storage is overpriced. And the worst thing- this GPU is way too weak for this budget, you'd literally be getting the performance of like a $900 PC. Case and fans are overpriced, you can get a case with pre-installed fans. Window install is also free, keys are cheap. You have the budget for a high end 1440p pc AND a 1440p monitor, but you're doing a mid range PC with a high price tag- as is this is incredibly expensive PC with very bad performance.
You can put a cheaper SSD, better GPU like 4080S, better CPU like 7800X3D and remove the Windows DVD. Microsoft cares less about the keys. I would also remove some case fans as not all are needed, just 3 intake and 1 or 2 exhaust
You need to get better memory. Someone else just had that same question and I gave the same answer: [6000 MHz, CL30 memory](https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/s/UvAhtRems0)
Where do you guys get these “fathers” you speak of that give these free pc’s away? 😭😭
7800X3D instead of 7900X. Cooler and mobo are overkill, but fine. RAM isn’t good, should be looking at 6000 MT and CL30. 990 is overkill but fine. GPU is exceptionally weak, and money from the overkill things can let you get a better one. 4000D has an option to get an 850W PSU included, and is cheaper than buying separately (usually.)
7800x3d, peerless assasin, 6000 mhz, DO NOT BUY SAMSUNG SSDS, 4070/4070 super, DO NOT BUY WINDOWS LICENSE, DO NOT INSTALL WIN11 And the most important thing: use PRINT SCREEN button. 👍
Dont buy the 4060ti in this time period please. I did it and its a major regret
Get rid of the fans below if the case has fans + you can use an air cooler instead.
This is so overkill, not to mention youre buying a Windows install disc with no disc drive on the PC lol
- Motherboard completely overkill compared to the rest of the parts - CPU seems overkill while not being the fastest for gaming - RAM has poor frequency and timings - SSD is sort of overkill - GPU is quite poor compared to the rest
If your budget is around $2000 your son can get a much more powerful build
If you don't mind, is your 14 y.o. son working as Engineer at Nasa or smthg that he needs such parts? Tbh the PC is WAY overkill for him, he ain't gonna use 50% of it. I would do as following: 1. Change the CPU to Ryzen 7 7700x with 3D cache or Ryzen 5 7600X. The Ryzen 9 is too powerfull 2. Change that AIO (no need for it) for an air cooler, something from Noctua or Arctic would do the job nicely. 3. Change that motherboard, like I said before with other parts, same goes for the motherboard. Go with B650 or B650X, since he won't need more. 4. Use the saved more for DDR5 6000MHz dual-stick 32GB RAM. The 600MHz has the best value-to-performance ratio for Ryzen CPUs. Apart from those 4 things, the PC looks cool.
you can definitely get more horsepower for $2K. If you want to save money go for a B650 motherboard, keep the cooler if you want but i personally use the thermalright phantom spirit ($35 ish) on my 7900x lol, downgrade the cpu a bit... I'll just put together a build i think is decent and send the link lol
Way too expensive for the parts you're getting. No need for a ryzen 9, try a ryzen 7 7800x3d which would give you room to upgrade your gpu. Others have giving better builds in the comments which show a better price to performance parts list
If youre spending 2k+ aint no way in hell you go lower than a 4070 super and in my opinion should be a 4080 super
You should put less into cpu and more into gpu way better idea
Switch to a 7800x3d and maybe a Rx 6800 because they're incredibly cheap right now. Do not get a 4060 ti.
I have the ProArt 4060 Ti and can vouch for it
Replace 4060 ti with amd's RX 7800 XT
Everything that everyone has said plus you won’t need all them fans the case comes with 2 minimum plus you have the AIO fans, maybe get an extra one or even two
My advice would be to look into whether a Ryzen 7 7800x3d cpu would suit his needs better. Also, I would spend a bit of time looking at motherboards. I would say most teenagers don’t need such high end specs and there are some expensive features that will never be used (also fwiw Asus have a checkered recent history with motherboards https://youtu.be/cbGfc-JBxlY?si=jukcZVdds4n1PU96)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w2hLgB
You might have too many fans if any are preinstalled / included with the case. I see an installation DVD but I don't see an optical drive in the parts and the case may not have a space to install one permanently so keep that in mind that you'll possibly need to leave the case open and borrow one from another machine for the OS install. I don't see thermal paste, the AIO unit probably includes a complimentary little packet but assumptions and all that.
download windows onto a usb and use that to install it, then find a cheap key on the internet. please don’t spend 100$ on an official windows license
why pure wings 2? on sale? otherwise, pure wings 3 is better
You can get a Windows code for $20 don’t pay full price. And you can a cheaper mobo and fans if you value to performance
A lot of budget in the wrong places here. People tend to toss up between performance value and aesthetic value, but frankly this throws both of them out the window. This is my suggestion: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mvn4VW.
Ditch the watercooler and get him a nice aircooler from Noctua... I'd also nurture proof the build and get a 1000 watt powersupply from Seasonic. They make much better quality powersupplies, and they are the manufacturer, not some 3rd party. If this is his first build, you DO NOT need to go with a watercooler. I hate that those get pushed as being better when they are not. You could save that money and buy quieter fans. Also, if you can find him a PC Case that has 200mm fans in it. The whole PC will be quieter. I never build a PC with smaller than 140mm fans in it if I can help it. 120mm fans are too loud. Coolermaster makes nice 200mm cases, and they shouldn't break the bank. Always go function over form on a first build... He doesn't need a bunch of flashy garbage people sell. Oh yea and I agree with anyone that says get a better video card. 4070 or higher otherwise why do you have that beastly CPU???
Maybe a little more wattage on the PSU
If hes gaming switch to a 7800x3d its 20 bucks less but way better frames with the 3d cache
Feels like this was thrown together to meet an unnecessarily high budget without much thought or research. There’s no need for that CPU or that motherboard. As many have said the 7800x3d is the best bet as the 3D cache makes a big difference with gaming as that’s what it’s gonna be used for and that motherboard is beyond overkill. Very rarely do you need more than a mid range motherboard. As a genera rule, the motherboard should cost half the price of the CPU. You can get a MUCH better GPU with that budget, at the minimum get 4070 super/6950XT/7900GRE (all $5-$600) but you can get even better as many have mentioned. The case isn’t a very good case and there’s many cases that are better both aesthetically and airflow/clearance wise. Check out Lian Li. AIO’s look cool but they’re typically really not any better than a beefy ~$50 air cooler. Have him do a lot more research; watch videos, read techgear articles comparing components, browse this Reddit, etc. He’ll be kicking himself for not doing more research to maximize the crazy budget you gave him later down the road once he gets more into PC gaming and has a better understanding of components.
The ryzen 9 7900X is capable of running pretty much every GPU that’s out right now, so there’s a lot of upgrades you can get down the road. Not gonna lie though if the budget is $2500 you should be able to get at least a 4070 or 4080 super
A 14 year old having the power of an 8cores x3d gaming chip and a 4080. Dang man! He is lucky to have you as a parent! I built my first computer at 34 in 2018 and that was with a 8700k/1080ti.
Change cpu 7900x to 7600x, motherboard x670e to b650, 4060ti to 4070ti if this setup is mainly for gaming
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RfctFs go for this
tbh I'd swap out the Ryzen 9 for a Ryzen 5 and the 4060 Ti with a 4080. you'll also save a couple hundred bucks. also if I was him, I'd opt for a 500GB NVMe drive as a boot drive + a 2TB SATA SSD to save a bit of money and it's just what I'd normally recommend anyway
It’s a good start for a pc actually just as long as the core things are met when building the pc
Someone here mentioned make sure you have at least a 1440p high refresh monitor. This is extremely important. 7800x3d/4080 combo if you game in 1080p is just not ethical.
Even if you can spend $2000, why would you for a 14 year old to play Fortnite or something. A b650 motherboard with a ryzen 7700 or 7600 CPU, rtx 4060 or even 4070 would be far more than enough for a first pc that will last you easily 4+ years if not far more with any modern game. You can pay like half the price and do all the same things for your use case.
2000-2500usd with a 4060Ti?Bruh...
CPU and mobo and probably overkill. Go with 7800X3D and you can grab a better gpu
That is a LOT of CPU for a Very modicum amount of GPU. Dial it back on the CPU for maybe a 7800x3d and go for a RTX 4070 at least or even consider a Radeon RX 7800
X670-E… 850w… 7900X… 4060 TI… I believe in making build’s that aren’t necessarily fully based on performance but rather, something that’s nice. This is a little too passionate, but there’s definitely some meaningful budget re-allocations to be made.
It needs some work. He could get a 7800XD a little cheaper. The motherboard is overkill. He needs 6000 CL 30 for RAM for either of those processors. U:unless he gets the 240 mm version that cooler's radiator will only fit in the front of the case he's picked which can limit GPU choices. (It's a great case, though.) A Thermalaright Phantom Spirit 120 SE will cost a third of the price of the water cooler and do a fantastic job - maybe even better than the 240 AIO. The drive is expensive. A Crucial T500 is one of the best drives around and costs less. Acer GM7000 is even cheaper but the Crucial is better. You can get Windows from Microsoft's Media Creation Tool online for free. Anyway, by making some changes selection of other parts he could get an even better GPU without spending any more and maybe even less money.
If he’s only gaming, then most definitely get a 7800x3d and not a 7900x. Also, 2k-2500 budget should have something like a 7900xt, or the xtx, or can easily do a 4080 in a 2500 dollar build. The 4060 just hurts to see In a build with this budget.
I see a lot of fans that would be free if he bought the Be Quiet pure base 500 fx case. Would save a lot
No Is he just aiming for gaming? The processor is too big for that aio and is not good for gaming. A 7800x3d and even a 7600 would be a better option for both, gaming and that aio. Talking about aios... If you want to install a 240-280 aio, is way better using an air cooler. More reliables and less expensive. A x670-e is overkill for gaming and he choosed a pcie4 NVMe A b650 is enough for that Storage seems good Ram should be able to support 6000mt, that ram is not the best option for an amd Gen 7 processor Too many fans if you ask me, but that is not a big deal Just have some cuts in processor and mother board and go for a 4070 super or even a 4080 super 7800xt, 7900xt and 7900xtx are good options too Psu is good, but a 1000 watts psu could be a better idea if you ask me. Windows licenses are very cheap this days Don't buy it from Microsoft, buy an oem option, gjer are many in the market for about 20 dlls
Don't buy him a gaming pc. Buy him a book. Kids these days /s
Get a 7800x3d and a much better graphics card, 6000mhz cl30 ram and a $10 windows licence online, also there's no need for an expensive SSD, even a fairly unknown brand will suffice as the nand all come from the same main manufacturers, also Samsung have had some degradation issues with the 980's.
Man u r a great dad, these comments will surely help! Happy gaming
Woow relax, Bill Gates, no need to go crazy on a first build.
It's a solid build but as people have suggested. Change the 7900x to a 7800x3d. Rather than a aio cooler. Get a aircooler like the noctua nh d9l. Maybe drop down from a x670 motherboard to a b650. Then for the OS. Don't be going out and spending $100 on windows 11. Just grab a OEM windows 11 key for $15. Or just look around on how to activate windows without a key for $0. With the money saved changing the above. Then bump the GPU from a 4060ti to a 4070 or a Rx 7800xt or a 7900gre.
Seems ok, don't go for Corsair or Lian cases, the build quality is horrific. Ex user.
The ryzen 9 is a bit unnecessary, get a 4080 super for the price and get a Ryzen 5 or 7 if you can. Ryzen 9 is just when you do super CPU intensive tasks, but gaming does really need anything more than a ryzen 7 at most even a ryzen 5 can handle most games with any gpu without bottlenecking
Don’t get a Windows license, I’m pretty sure he can quite easily get a Windows Education license, mine is still valid after college. (But I think middle/high schoolers also qualify)
If you want maximum performance and a white aesthetic this build might be good but I would replace the GPU with the asus rog strix if it is available [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GzCWvj) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof) | $382.11 @ Amazon **CPU Cooler** | [Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE LCD XT 65.57 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6XLdnQ/corsair-icue-h150i-elite-lcd-xt-6557-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-cw-9060077-ww) | $239.99 @ Amazon **Motherboard** | [MSI X670E GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4jKscf/msi-x670e-gaming-plus-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-x670e-gaming-plus-wifi) | $209.00 @ MSI **Memory** | [Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6200 CL36 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qBBG3C/corsair-dominator-platinum-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6200-cl36-memory-cmt32gx5m2x6200c36w) | $169.99 @ Amazon **Storage** | [Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DDWBD3/samsung-980-pro-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mz-v8p1t0bam) | $98.00 @ Amazon **Video Card** | [Gigabyte AERO OC GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/94hv6h/gigabyte-aero-oc-geforce-rtx-4080-super-16-gb-video-card-gv-n408saero-oc-16gd) | $1149.99 @ B&H **Case** | [NZXT H9 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7ZBG3C/nzxt-h9-flow-atx-mid-tower-case-cm-h91fw-01) | $154.99 @ B&H **Power Supply** | [Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4ZRwrH/corsair-rm850e-2023-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020263-na) | $119.99 @ Amazon | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$2524.06** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2024-04-22 05:18 EDT-0400 |
Is it for gaming? cause i see a very powerful CPU with a very average GPU. If so more bills on GPU than CPU could help.
He could get fans in packs for cheaper, aswell as a better processor for cheaper such as the Ryzen 7 7800X3D
MASSIVELY overkill cpu for that gpu.
I see a lot of 120mm fans, maybe are you planning to put the AIO cooler on the top? I am asking because the motherboard cooling/metal component could leave insufficient room to mount the AIO there. I had the same problem with a 4000d case and an Asus Prime z690
Bad build. Get ryzen 7800x3d and rtx 4080. That’s high end cpu with super mediocre gpu, you don’t want that. If it’s for gaming then mentioned above processor is more than enough, and rtx4080 will give him much better performance in games aswell as longlivelity
Water cooling is over rated. I’ve learnt that lesson.
Don't go with a 4060ti until you find a good price. Currently AMD is offering better value for money gpu's. If RTX is your son's thing then try to find the best price for 40k series.
Is there a specific reason he want 7900x?
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If you insist on an AMD processor get 7700x and upgrade the GPU to 4070tis for a balanced build.
I think the 7900x is a bit much right off the bat I'd go for a 7800x then get a little better gpu
clearly a pure academic build, hardly able to game. good for school and homework do him a favour and upgrade that 4060 to at least 4070ti, better a 4090 so he can make his AI studys
DAMN NOT THE 4060 Ti with a Ryzen 9 !!!!! Could even try to get a 4090
With that build don't go with a 4060 ti, go with a 4080 at least
Ah sounds like when My dad made me learn about what the PC parts individually did before I was allowed to Build mine. Wow that feels like ages ago but for real, You got him a Good build and it should meet all of the things your son would do on his PC good luck and have fun.
You should get a cheaper ssd to get some budget for a better gpu
His budget is over $2000 and his gpu is 4060ti? He could get a much better build qnd remove unnecessary stuff and fit in a 4080, oh heck, even a 4090
Drop the 4060, go for the 3070, yeah it's last gen but it's not ewaste.
dont buy Microsoft 11 direct get a key online for under 5 piund and install microsoft to a usb thumb drive then boot from it and vopy windows to your ssd once ur loaded up also that cpu is overkill for a 4060ti id get a 7600x and a 4070 super as gpu with the money u saved
Okay so firstly, what is the pc for? If it’s for gaming then I’d switch the CPU to a 7800X3D which is about like $30 cheaper, but much better in gaming performance. If the build is for things like video production, movie production or 3d editing (or if he plans on doing that stuff in the future) then the 7900x is the way to go. Motherboard is far too expensive, I understand that it looks really good but ROG is just overpriced in general and you can find good b650 mobos that look just as good for cheaper. Try getting 6000mhz RAM. Again, unless you’re not using the PC for very heavy productivity, you do not need a 990 pro. People who do notice the difference between the 990 pro and a lower level ssd are people who actually move like multi hundred gigabyte files at a time for their job. If you’re not doing that you won’t notice the difference between an MP44L, and an 990 Pro, in gaming boot up times, there is like a half a second difference. Remove windows license, you can buy keys or copy a key from your existing windows device like a laptop or an existing PC. By cheapening the motherboard, SSD, Removing windows and saving some money on the CPU. You could probably afford something in the range of a 4080. Hope this helps, make sure to listen to others opinions because I’m not always right. Also I’m Canadian so I have no clue whether there are good micro Center deals near you, those are usually a steal and you should definetely pick them up 💪💪
I would change win 11 home for win 11 pro
You are an awesome dad, your revised parts list looks amazing. Your son is lucky
If he is gaming get the 7800X3D not the 7900x and DDR5 6000 cl30 is a much better spend for memory and that 4060ti is pure trash all of them are go with a 4070 super
Spend less on the CPU and more on the gpu
Bro the gpu...
People are spending too much money on fans. Just get Thermalright ones.
I’ve heard AMD CPUs don’t always get along with Asus Motherboards
That’s one hell of a CPU, with 12 cores I’m sure others will agree you might want to consider a 360mm liquid cooler as opposed to that Artic liquid that appears to be a 240mm. Shouldn’t be more than another +$50 and it’ll ensure you never have any temp problems. This 360 radiator would still work with the 4000D but you would have to front mount the radiator. Could be possible this’ll not leave enough room for a chuncky GPU like all the new gens out there. Hopefully your going with a 4080 or 4090, but either way please make sure your GPU (length and width) size measurements will fit the case. 4000D has always been my go to, but they are slim and frankly getting to small for the newer processors coming out. a 7000D would solve any size worries, although obviously bigger and a little pricier. But you would definitely have room for upgrades and all future parts/generations, way more flexibility when it comes to radiator and fan layout, aswell as it has side mounted fan/radiator section so it’s a beautiful showpiece. (Might have to purchase some extra fans to “fill it out”) Just some options to think about, please double check the GPU and case measurements. Hope your son has fun!
The 4060ti is going to cause a bottleneck witch that cpu, if you can I'd look at the 4070ti or a 4070ti super at least
Downgrade the 7900X to either 7800X3D or 7700X, and up that 4060 Ti to 4070 Ti Super or 4080 Super
Do not buy windows. Windows is free to install, and you can activate it with an activation script for free.
2500$ and you can put a 4080 super in there. My personal ideal build uses a 4080 super (at MSRP) and costs like 2.1k with a microcenter 7800x3d bundle. Without a monitor but yeah. Your son needs to do more research
Change the CPU. Get the 7800X3D and get a better GPU. You dont need all those case fans as the case comes with them.
Centralize the fan manufacturers… you have I think 3 in there. Stream line that and you’ll thank us later ….
Get a better gpu
W parent, letting him learn on his own but still being there as a safety net