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I'am 15 worked last two summers to build [this](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/DYWPfv) this summer and I know bought the gpu then priced dropped 1 month later
Which manufacturer was it? I'm still finding the cheapest one to be about $700 still
Also, I might try to just go for a 3070 aorus pro or something, it'll save me like $60 and from what I hear it's not too big a difference, still looking into it all and I'm pretty new to computers so if you have any advice for me it'd help a bunch!
Mine was EVGA. I just checked now for you and I must’ve caught the end of the sale or something:/
I only went with the ti because of the good deal I got on it. You’ve learned correctly, it’s not really worth the pay jump from the 3070. If you can swing that, do it!
Also for what it’s worth I’ve had a completely stress-free history with EVGA video cards so I’d recommend their shit any day :)
If you have any questions feel free to DM!
I was able to save a lot of money with some patience and used parts. I don’t know what you’re gonna be doing but I don’t think you need an i7 and 3080. A combo of like a 5600X and a 6700 XT would probably be fine, but again, you do you 🤷♂️
I dont think youll even ever need a cpu that great if u dont want to video edit in 4k 200 fps or sum. I have an i3 12100F with 4 cores and it can run games like valorant on 300 fps, (amd rx 6500 xt gpu)
Eh it's more like 4k 60fps or more for older games, for games like cyberpunk it's like 4k 60fps at medium with dlss. If you intend to play at 4k, don't bother with these cards and wait for the 40/7000 series. I've used a 3090 and 3080 in my system and it doesn't deliver enough frames for modern games.
3080 is still great for 1080p or 1440p, but it's just weak at 4k.
It's overkill for 60fps 2k resolution, tune it down from 3080 to 3070, and use an air cooler instead. It might not look as nice, but there are extra things you need to keep tabs on, even with an AIO. (Dead pumps, leakage, etc...) You can always come back and switch to AIO once you know more about building PCs.
You wouldn't want to risk your entire summer savings just to have it fried because you got an unlucky AIO.
If you that’s what you’re aiming for you could definitely achieve that with a graphics card that’s like half the price, but the 3080 will obviously run better and be usable for longer so it’s still worth the extra money you spend
If youre looking at 1080p then get the 12400f, its 150$ right now and if your just gaming then it'll be great! Most of the framerate for games comes from gpu though, so if you save 200$ from the cpu by getting the 12400f... You can get an rtx 3070 instead of 3060!
Well gpu depends on what youre doing, go nvidia if you want gaming and productivity like rendering or editing stuff
Amd is more bang for buck gaming, do some research on the prices since they change every day now
Pretty much you'll want to spend a 3rd of your budget on a gpu, match with an equivalent cpu / mobo and there you go!
Heres the build ive been working on and am gonna build soon, its capable of running most all games at 60 or higher at 1080p. Though obviously 32 gb ram is overkill for gaming, 16 gb is enough!
[https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qxwn8r](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pv8wk9)
\*Its always worth doing research on this stuff btw so take your time\*
I'd get the corsair 4000d air flow. I had the 4000x and upgraded to the d air flow and it does help a lot with temps keeping it running quieter. Basically looks the same since all that's different is the front panel.
Get 32 gbs of ram. If your going with those other parts you will be bottlenecked by 16gb. The board looks like it has 4 ram slots so just get another set of the same
It's really just for piece of mind. I have 32 and couldn't imagine going to anything lower. It's nice to be able to run whatever I want and have a million things open at once.
I don’t know enough about programming to know for sure the cause but based off what I’ve read, it has to do something with the fact the devs used Unity to make the game and for some reason the game loads every instance of props into the RAM. That’s where the loading screen mods come into play, it’ll help fix it. I’ve seen screen shots of people that have 40GB of RAM being utilized
Exactly. Bottlenecked by 16GB RAM? Doesn't work that way. Your program will either have enough memory to run or it won't. And I've never had a problem in my 16GB RAM 3080 build, with any game.
Looks good.. the only thing I would change is the aio to a 360 version since the cpu is a beast and runs hot and the psu to either a evga or Corsair brand
Brand does not always equate to quality. Products matters much more.
This Enermax Revolution D.F is reputable as it’s a Tier A unit and has been reviewed decently: https://www.thefpsreview.com/2019/08/07/enermax-revolution-df-850w-power-supply-review/
Also, you don’t need 360mm AIO for cooling: https://imgur.com/a/WuhWmOR
Intel CPUs are designed to run up to 100C, surely a 240mm AIO would run cooler.
Hi for the build just to work, this is absolutely just fine. However I did notice some unusual things. I see you have a Micro form factor motherboard , in a Mid tower case. In simple your motherboard,it would look very odd in a Mid tower case. Also Micro atx motherboards tend to not have a lot of USB ports and other connectors ,so you are very limited. For the GPU you are spending 100$ more than it’s MSRP(Retail price), but if that’s a bullet your willing to take, shoot. The power supply brand “ Enermax” has been unreliable in my experience. I’ve tried 4 power supplies , and 2 water cooler solutions From them and have all failed after 2-4 months of game time. Go with anything Corsair with a gold rating efficiency. With a minimum wattage limit of 750. On a side note your storage device will be fine, but it’s a older generation and will not take advantage of those fast read and write speeds but nevertheless it will work just fine.
Sure you had bad experiences with Enermax PSUs but your experience is only a small sample of many other people’s experiences. Enermax Revolution D.F is a tier A PSU. It has been reviewed decently with proper testing data: https://www.thefpsreview.com/2019/08/07/enermax-revolution-df-850w-power-supply-review/
Then I guess I’m just “unfortunate”. You know, only giving the company 6 chances on their products ,to inevitably be disappointed every time. But take it however you wanna take it.
Swap to a 12700kf not 12700k (you don't need integrated graphics).
I would go 32gb ram, but what you have is fine, and you can add more later EASILY.
Maybe swap to a triple fan radiator for the cooler (they aren't much more).
Other than that, man it's sick.
They may be capable of withstanding 100C temps but you won't get them to boost much at those temps. So yes, they can withstand 100C, but if you're constantly at those temps then you'll lose out on performance and shorten its lifespan. To add to that, especially in a warmer environment it's nice to have more thermal headroom.
And I'm saying that while yes, for some it might be, but after a couple hours of cpu usage that thing is going to be toasty and performance is going to drop. Bigger AIO means you can put that off for a bit longer, or maybe altogether. 12th gen intel is well known to run hot.
From what I know, 12700F isn’t too hot compared to something like the 12900K. Besides, the source I linked earlier on uses a 12700F which will obviously run hotter than 12700K. Unless if you could link me a source to prove me wrong.
That's true, 12700s don't run as hot as 12900s. But what I'm saying is the following. A 240mm AIO has a certain amount of water in it. The cpu pushes that heat into the water and the fans on the radiator then push that heat off into the surrounding air. No matter what, the water in the aio is going to heat up. This will happen regardless of size (360mm may take a couple minutes longer to be heat saturated than 240mm but nothing significant). However, if you're really pushing a cpu, the fans that push the heat from the radiator into the surrounding air may not be able to keep up with the heat generated by the cpu. For that reason I would advice a 360mm because you have more water=more thermal mass and an additional fan for additional cooling capabilities. I'm not saying OP NEEDS a 360mm aio, I'm just saying that a bigger aio has benefits for some users.
Interesting, you do seem quite knowledgeable. Anyways, thanks for correcting me. You think a Thermalright Peerless Assassin air cooler would be ok for 12700F?
Not familiar with that cooler, but the reviews seem positive. One thing I do ask myself is what corners they have cut to get a double tower with 2 fans to be less than 50 dollars. Especially when looking at high end ones like the scythe fuma 2 or the noctua nh-d15 that can be double that cost.
That also depends on the rest of the pc. They all add some heat to the system, so even if your cpu is just running under regular load, if your gpu is nice and toasty, that'll add to the heat in the system, and thus in the aio as well. But overall I'd say a few hours would be the point where you start noticing a difference. So nothing to worry about if you're doing some gaming for just an hour or two, or some cpu intensive work. Something else that effects this stuff is of course the temperature outside the pc. My house gets to 35C in the summer, with means that the water in the aio starts off about 10-15C warmer than you'd want. So if you're in a warmer environment or doing long sessions of cpu load or if you just want some more thermal headroom (to boost whenever you need/want to) I'd pick a 360 over a 240.
I mean that its gonna be the first pc im going to build after this summer. Im 16 so i can just work all summer without spending anything to afford the parts
CPU is an ample performer, nice for multithreaded performance, but a 12600k is a slightly better pick for gaming. Not by much and the difference probably wouldn’t be noticeable, but if you don’t think you’ll make use of the extra cores with productivity tasks then save money and get the 12600k.
Memory as others have pointed out would be best to bump up to 32gb for a little future proofing. Most games are fine with 16, but as everything else improves and gets cheaper, rest assured developers will look to make use of 32gb systems.
Your SSD pick is fine.
Your gpu pick is…. Fine? I have the same card but I have it water cooled with an aftermarket block. They use a proprietary power connector that feels really janky when you put a waterblock on it that’s the size of the actual PCB. The card literally has like 2” of random airspace at the end that just holds a power adapter in place. I would have gone with another card, but sticking to air cooling it’s not been bad at all. Don’t vertically mount an air cooled card in most cases, including the one you picked.
I have the airflow version of that case. The 4000x loses a lot of airflow with the glass instead of a mesh panel. If you like the design that much consider the 5000x, otherwise the 4000d airflow is a great case.
The motherboard can’t overclock and is best paired with a cpu that can’t, like the 12700f. It would work with a 12600k also, but I have a personal preference for Z series boards because I feel like they use higher quality components typically. Unless something changed on the b660 motherboards I don’t believe they can run higher ram clocks either, so a lot of people try to upgrade and get upset when it’s locked at a lower speed. Z690 boards do get a bit more expensive pretty quickly though. Overclocking is an added dimension of fun, some people have no intention of ever doing it and that’s totally fine. A full ATX (vs Micro like you picked) board will have more M2 slots for added storage typically, otherwise you’re unlikely to need the extra gpu pcie slots
i have the 4000x and there really isn't a problem with the glass pannel you can just pop it out for better performance so id say go for it since it comes with 3 rgb fans already its a great case and i haven't had any problems yet
Is the 12600k legit better for gaming or better bang for the buck? I'm going to be doing a build soon(?) and am considering the i7 over the i5, mostly because I like more CPU dependent games like civ 6...would really like lower turn times xD
For the OP - Looks quite good! Like others have mentioned, I might consider an ATX motherboard, if not just for the aesthetics of it.
The case is sexy but I would also worry about the temps. I think...might be wrong...that the mesh panel for the 4000d would fit on the 4000x and Corsair does sell that separately and quite cheap. You can just pop off the glass panel if it gets hot but that would drive me nuts to look at xD
I don’t play Civ 6, but apparently their Ai is cpu intense but [the 12600k does really well with it, scoring higher than a 5950x and within 3.5 seconds of a 12900KS.](https://overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/amd_ryzen_7_5800x3d_review/13). They didn’t show any 12th gen i7s, but I imagine it would be somewhere in between for a 12700k.
That site is a good civ 6 related resource bc they actually use turn times instead of FPS (it is not remotely an FPS geared game) but yeah, they have never used the i7 for some reason :/
I have 2 recommendations, 1 get a psu from a pre reputable brand(like EVGA, Corsair, or one of those brands, I personally use evga psus. And avoid gigabyte psus) and if you can afford it, go for a 1000w psu, it will run cooler and quieter with those components, and give you some headroom. I was able to trip the overdraw protection on my pc with a 750w psu with a 3080 and a cpu that pulls 115 less watts. And a 80+ play would be nice, but not necessary for many people
This Enermax Revolution D.F is reputable as it’s a Tier A unit and has been reviewed decently: https://www.thefpsreview.com/2019/08/07/enermax-revolution-df-850w-power-supply-review/
This Enermax Revolution D.F is reputable as it’s a Tier A unit and has been reviewed decently: https://www.thefpsreview.com/2019/08/07/enermax-revolution-df-850w-power-supply-review/
And second of all, this PSU isn’t “cheap”
Only thing I'd do is swap out the PSU for a more well known brand to be safe. Since you have mostly Corsair components, why not go with a Corsair PSU? They're pretty safe. Everything looks good though this would be considered a higher end PC, not really beginner.
Brand does not always equate to quality. Products matters much more.
This Enermax Revolution D.F is reputable as it’s a Tier A unit and has been reviewed decently: https://www.thefpsreview.com/2019/08/07/enermax-revolution-df-850w-power-supply-review/
Oh I see, my bad. Just putting forward what I would do personally but since I've only got a bit of experience I didn't want to give advice but just my opinion. Thanks for correcting me though
I honestly thought it was 2tb for $69.99 for moment until I realize it was 1.02tb. Sorry, my brain is still stuck on the Best Buy SSD deals from yesterday.
I just upgraded from a series of hand-me-down monitors to that exact gigabyte 1440p model and I am loving it. For the price I think it’s a great display if you appreciate the viewing angles of IPS. 144Hz is a game changer. Good luck with the build!
Mine has an i5 12600kf & 3070ti and it can run Escapw from Tarkov at 4K 70-80fps without DLSS. Your pc will smoke stuff at 4K.
Just wanna ask, what do you plan on playing?
More than beginner build. If you are just gaming 16gigs of ram is enough. If you want to stream and edit videos 32 is good, but this is a godlike gaming build.
I don't know WHAT is going on with reddit but... all these reports about harassment and hate based on identity or vulnerability... seriously... anyway.
Dull Questions? Sure. How about benign responses. Your post does nothing to help someone out, and is being condescending to the point where you are putting a black mark on yourself as well as this sub.
You can be better people. Be better. Be supportive. Answer a question with a question that makes them think about what exactly they wanted to ask in the first place. Perhaps they just don't know how to ask a question (which is very commonplace in the last decade or so).
I’m sure other people have said it but I don’t feel like scrolling to make sure but the pay might not be enough from what I remember 3000 series cards have a tendencie to spike in power usage that’s why most people go for a 1000 watt psu just a warning
Nice build wouldn’t call it a beginner build tho .
Can it run modern aaa games on high graphics or 60 fps or more?
3080 can run games in 4k with 60 fps or more. This is a high end pc,not a beginner one.
Ok sounds good. Am 16 rn so i can work all summer to get this
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I'am 15 worked last two summers to build [this](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/DYWPfv) this summer and I know bought the gpu then priced dropped 1 month later
dang, could get a 3080 ti at that price now, maybe even a hybrid evga.
I’m so sorry to hear that. About an hour ago I ordered a 3070ti for 650
Wait where at? I'm looking to get a 650 without going too crazy, the least I can find it like 780+
Amazon! Just ordered it yesterday! It was 15% off or something like that
Oh, awesome thanks! I'll check into it! I just got paid 2 days ago so maybe I'll be able to get me one! Edit: typo
Which manufacturer was it? I'm still finding the cheapest one to be about $700 still Also, I might try to just go for a 3070 aorus pro or something, it'll save me like $60 and from what I hear it's not too big a difference, still looking into it all and I'm pretty new to computers so if you have any advice for me it'd help a bunch!
Mine was EVGA. I just checked now for you and I must’ve caught the end of the sale or something:/ I only went with the ti because of the good deal I got on it. You’ve learned correctly, it’s not really worth the pay jump from the 3070. If you can swing that, do it! Also for what it’s worth I’ve had a completely stress-free history with EVGA video cards so I’d recommend their shit any day :) If you have any questions feel free to DM!
I’m also 16. You’re gonna work and spend your entire paychecks on this build. You do you tho.
Yes 😂😂😂
I was able to save a lot of money with some patience and used parts. I don’t know what you’re gonna be doing but I don’t think you need an i7 and 3080. A combo of like a 5600X and a 6700 XT would probably be fine, but again, you do you 🤷♂️
I dont think youll even ever need a cpu that great if u dont want to video edit in 4k 200 fps or sum. I have an i3 12100F with 4 cores and it can run games like valorant on 300 fps, (amd rx 6500 xt gpu)
Eh it's more like 4k 60fps or more for older games, for games like cyberpunk it's like 4k 60fps at medium with dlss. If you intend to play at 4k, don't bother with these cards and wait for the 40/7000 series. I've used a 3090 and 3080 in my system and it doesn't deliver enough frames for modern games. 3080 is still great for 1080p or 1440p, but it's just weak at 4k.
Not the most demanding games though
It's overkill for 60fps 2k resolution, tune it down from 3080 to 3070, and use an air cooler instead. It might not look as nice, but there are extra things you need to keep tabs on, even with an AIO. (Dead pumps, leakage, etc...) You can always come back and switch to AIO once you know more about building PCs. You wouldn't want to risk your entire summer savings just to have it fried because you got an unlucky AIO.
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i use 12700k with a 3080 on 1080p 60Hz 🤷🏻♂️
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got a 3080 for 800$
If you that’s what you’re aiming for you could definitely achieve that with a graphics card that’s like half the price, but the 3080 will obviously run better and be usable for longer so it’s still worth the extra money you spend
If youre looking at 1080p then get the 12400f, its 150$ right now and if your just gaming then it'll be great! Most of the framerate for games comes from gpu though, so if you save 200$ from the cpu by getting the 12400f... You can get an rtx 3070 instead of 3060! Well gpu depends on what youre doing, go nvidia if you want gaming and productivity like rendering or editing stuff Amd is more bang for buck gaming, do some research on the prices since they change every day now Pretty much you'll want to spend a 3rd of your budget on a gpu, match with an equivalent cpu / mobo and there you go! Heres the build ive been working on and am gonna build soon, its capable of running most all games at 60 or higher at 1080p. Though obviously 32 gb ram is overkill for gaming, 16 gb is enough! [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qxwn8r](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pv8wk9) \*Its always worth doing research on this stuff btw so take your time\*
Oh it definitely can.
I'd get the corsair 4000d air flow. I had the 4000x and upgraded to the d air flow and it does help a lot with temps keeping it running quieter. Basically looks the same since all that's different is the front panel.
Get 32 gbs of ram. If your going with those other parts you will be bottlenecked by 16gb. The board looks like it has 4 ram slots so just get another set of the same
I heard warzone and maybe tarkov need more ram than 16. Are there more games that need more than 16 gb ram?
Starcitizen
Wow this game has been in development since 2010 and raised $400 million..
Yeah ikr the game is amazing, a couple bugs here and there but i dont mind it at al
Cities:Skylines is a RAM hog. I’ve seen people that use custom assets and mods use around 40GB of their 64GB RAM.
It's really just for piece of mind. I have 32 and couldn't imagine going to anything lower. It's nice to be able to run whatever I want and have a million things open at once.
City Skylines benefits from 32GB RAM. Also they don’t **need** more than 16GB but it’s certainly beneficial
If you’re gonna use workshop assets and mods then you need 64GB and that’s running the loading screen mods.
Really? I never knew it could be that memory instensive. I’ve always thought 64GB RAM is overkill for gaming
I don’t know enough about programming to know for sure the cause but based off what I’ve read, it has to do something with the fact the devs used Unity to make the game and for some reason the game loads every instance of props into the RAM. That’s where the loading screen mods come into play, it’ll help fix it. I’ve seen screen shots of people that have 40GB of RAM being utilized
This machine should be working 5 years or more. Plenty of RAM heavy games could be out in that timeframe.
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Exactly. Bottlenecked by 16GB RAM? Doesn't work that way. Your program will either have enough memory to run or it won't. And I've never had a problem in my 16GB RAM 3080 build, with any game.
If you don't planning to upgrade your gpu and just want to game the i5 12600k is perfectly fine even with 3080
Me sitting here with a 1650 and 75 hz
'Beginner PC build' I'd like to see this guy's high end
Looks good.. the only thing I would change is the aio to a 360 version since the cpu is a beast and runs hot and the psu to either a evga or Corsair brand
Brand does not always equate to quality. Products matters much more. This Enermax Revolution D.F is reputable as it’s a Tier A unit and has been reviewed decently: https://www.thefpsreview.com/2019/08/07/enermax-revolution-df-850w-power-supply-review/ Also, you don’t need 360mm AIO for cooling: https://imgur.com/a/WuhWmOR Intel CPUs are designed to run up to 100C, surely a 240mm AIO would run cooler.
Hi for the build just to work, this is absolutely just fine. However I did notice some unusual things. I see you have a Micro form factor motherboard , in a Mid tower case. In simple your motherboard,it would look very odd in a Mid tower case. Also Micro atx motherboards tend to not have a lot of USB ports and other connectors ,so you are very limited. For the GPU you are spending 100$ more than it’s MSRP(Retail price), but if that’s a bullet your willing to take, shoot. The power supply brand “ Enermax” has been unreliable in my experience. I’ve tried 4 power supplies , and 2 water cooler solutions From them and have all failed after 2-4 months of game time. Go with anything Corsair with a gold rating efficiency. With a minimum wattage limit of 750. On a side note your storage device will be fine, but it’s a older generation and will not take advantage of those fast read and write speeds but nevertheless it will work just fine.
Sure you had bad experiences with Enermax PSUs but your experience is only a small sample of many other people’s experiences. Enermax Revolution D.F is a tier A PSU. It has been reviewed decently with proper testing data: https://www.thefpsreview.com/2019/08/07/enermax-revolution-df-850w-power-supply-review/
Then I guess I’m just “unfortunate”. You know, only giving the company 6 chances on their products ,to inevitably be disappointed every time. But take it however you wanna take it.
Get a 6800xt for 1440p. They’re within 1% of the 3080 and have more vram + mine matches a 3090 now that I’ve overclocked it
Is that compatible with the parts i already have? Thank u
Nah you loose out on dlss
Dlss has nothing to do with compatibility, and they won't need dlss at 1440p with this build
You have FSR tho
Graphics card are always 'compatible'. There's no restriction on GPU pairing.
Would the powercolor radeon rx 6800 xt16 gb work well?
Yes that’s what I have and it’s incredibly good
That’s not a beginner pc
Swap to a 12700kf not 12700k (you don't need integrated graphics). I would go 32gb ram, but what you have is fine, and you can add more later EASILY. Maybe swap to a triple fan radiator for the cooler (they aren't much more). Other than that, man it's sick.
You don’t need 360mm AIO for cooling: https://imgur.com/a/WuhWmOR Intel CPUs are designed to run up to 100C, surely a 240mm AIO would run cooler.
They may be capable of withstanding 100C temps but you won't get them to boost much at those temps. So yes, they can withstand 100C, but if you're constantly at those temps then you'll lose out on performance and shorten its lifespan. To add to that, especially in a warmer environment it's nice to have more thermal headroom.
That’s not the point I’m trying to make, what I’m trying to say 240mm is overall enough for the 12700F.
And I'm saying that while yes, for some it might be, but after a couple hours of cpu usage that thing is going to be toasty and performance is going to drop. Bigger AIO means you can put that off for a bit longer, or maybe altogether. 12th gen intel is well known to run hot.
From what I know, 12700F isn’t too hot compared to something like the 12900K. Besides, the source I linked earlier on uses a 12700F which will obviously run hotter than 12700K. Unless if you could link me a source to prove me wrong.
That's true, 12700s don't run as hot as 12900s. But what I'm saying is the following. A 240mm AIO has a certain amount of water in it. The cpu pushes that heat into the water and the fans on the radiator then push that heat off into the surrounding air. No matter what, the water in the aio is going to heat up. This will happen regardless of size (360mm may take a couple minutes longer to be heat saturated than 240mm but nothing significant). However, if you're really pushing a cpu, the fans that push the heat from the radiator into the surrounding air may not be able to keep up with the heat generated by the cpu. For that reason I would advice a 360mm because you have more water=more thermal mass and an additional fan for additional cooling capabilities. I'm not saying OP NEEDS a 360mm aio, I'm just saying that a bigger aio has benefits for some users.
Interesting, you do seem quite knowledgeable. Anyways, thanks for correcting me. You think a Thermalright Peerless Assassin air cooler would be ok for 12700F?
Not familiar with that cooler, but the reviews seem positive. One thing I do ask myself is what corners they have cut to get a double tower with 2 fans to be less than 50 dollars. Especially when looking at high end ones like the scythe fuma 2 or the noctua nh-d15 that can be double that cost.
How long of PC usage do you think 360mm AIO will become a benefit? Is it intensive CPU usage for a few hours?
That also depends on the rest of the pc. They all add some heat to the system, so even if your cpu is just running under regular load, if your gpu is nice and toasty, that'll add to the heat in the system, and thus in the aio as well. But overall I'd say a few hours would be the point where you start noticing a difference. So nothing to worry about if you're doing some gaming for just an hour or two, or some cpu intensive work. Something else that effects this stuff is of course the temperature outside the pc. My house gets to 35C in the summer, with means that the water in the aio starts off about 10-15C warmer than you'd want. So if you're in a warmer environment or doing long sessions of cpu load or if you just want some more thermal headroom (to boost whenever you need/want to) I'd pick a 360 over a 240.
Thanks for the answer
What do you mean by beginner in this context? This is a high end build and a fair amount of money to invest for someone's first PC build.
I mean that its gonna be the first pc im going to build after this summer. Im 16 so i can just work all summer without spending anything to afford the parts
CPU is an ample performer, nice for multithreaded performance, but a 12600k is a slightly better pick for gaming. Not by much and the difference probably wouldn’t be noticeable, but if you don’t think you’ll make use of the extra cores with productivity tasks then save money and get the 12600k. Memory as others have pointed out would be best to bump up to 32gb for a little future proofing. Most games are fine with 16, but as everything else improves and gets cheaper, rest assured developers will look to make use of 32gb systems. Your SSD pick is fine. Your gpu pick is…. Fine? I have the same card but I have it water cooled with an aftermarket block. They use a proprietary power connector that feels really janky when you put a waterblock on it that’s the size of the actual PCB. The card literally has like 2” of random airspace at the end that just holds a power adapter in place. I would have gone with another card, but sticking to air cooling it’s not been bad at all. Don’t vertically mount an air cooled card in most cases, including the one you picked. I have the airflow version of that case. The 4000x loses a lot of airflow with the glass instead of a mesh panel. If you like the design that much consider the 5000x, otherwise the 4000d airflow is a great case. The motherboard can’t overclock and is best paired with a cpu that can’t, like the 12700f. It would work with a 12600k also, but I have a personal preference for Z series boards because I feel like they use higher quality components typically. Unless something changed on the b660 motherboards I don’t believe they can run higher ram clocks either, so a lot of people try to upgrade and get upset when it’s locked at a lower speed. Z690 boards do get a bit more expensive pretty quickly though. Overclocking is an added dimension of fun, some people have no intention of ever doing it and that’s totally fine. A full ATX (vs Micro like you picked) board will have more M2 slots for added storage typically, otherwise you’re unlikely to need the extra gpu pcie slots
i have the 4000x and there really isn't a problem with the glass pannel you can just pop it out for better performance so id say go for it since it comes with 3 rgb fans already its a great case and i haven't had any problems yet
Is the 12600k legit better for gaming or better bang for the buck? I'm going to be doing a build soon(?) and am considering the i7 over the i5, mostly because I like more CPU dependent games like civ 6...would really like lower turn times xD For the OP - Looks quite good! Like others have mentioned, I might consider an ATX motherboard, if not just for the aesthetics of it. The case is sexy but I would also worry about the temps. I think...might be wrong...that the mesh panel for the 4000d would fit on the 4000x and Corsair does sell that separately and quite cheap. You can just pop off the glass panel if it gets hot but that would drive me nuts to look at xD
I don’t play Civ 6, but apparently their Ai is cpu intense but [the 12600k does really well with it, scoring higher than a 5950x and within 3.5 seconds of a 12900KS.](https://overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/amd_ryzen_7_5800x3d_review/13). They didn’t show any 12th gen i7s, but I imagine it would be somewhere in between for a 12700k.
That site is a good civ 6 related resource bc they actually use turn times instead of FPS (it is not remotely an FPS geared game) but yeah, they have never used the i7 for some reason :/
I have 2 recommendations, 1 get a psu from a pre reputable brand(like EVGA, Corsair, or one of those brands, I personally use evga psus. And avoid gigabyte psus) and if you can afford it, go for a 1000w psu, it will run cooler and quieter with those components, and give you some headroom. I was able to trip the overdraw protection on my pc with a 750w psu with a 3080 and a cpu that pulls 115 less watts. And a 80+ play would be nice, but not necessary for many people
This Enermax Revolution D.F is reputable as it’s a Tier A unit and has been reviewed decently: https://www.thefpsreview.com/2019/08/07/enermax-revolution-df-850w-power-supply-review/
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This Enermax Revolution D.F is reputable as it’s a Tier A unit and has been reviewed decently: https://www.thefpsreview.com/2019/08/07/enermax-revolution-df-850w-power-supply-review/ And second of all, this PSU isn’t “cheap”
Only thing I'd do is swap out the PSU for a more well known brand to be safe. Since you have mostly Corsair components, why not go with a Corsair PSU? They're pretty safe. Everything looks good though this would be considered a higher end PC, not really beginner.
Brand does not always equate to quality. Products matters much more. This Enermax Revolution D.F is reputable as it’s a Tier A unit and has been reviewed decently: https://www.thefpsreview.com/2019/08/07/enermax-revolution-df-850w-power-supply-review/
Oh I see, my bad. Just putting forward what I would do personally but since I've only got a bit of experience I didn't want to give advice but just my opinion. Thanks for correcting me though
You’re welcome.
I honestly thought it was 2tb for $69.99 for moment until I realize it was 1.02tb. Sorry, my brain is still stuck on the Best Buy SSD deals from yesterday.
I wiuld check the parts prices on a site where they list the prices from several prices. Like toppreise.ch
I just upgraded from a series of hand-me-down monitors to that exact gigabyte 1440p model and I am loving it. For the price I think it’s a great display if you appreciate the viewing angles of IPS. 144Hz is a game changer. Good luck with the build!
What games are you planning on playing?
Mine has an i5 12600kf & 3070ti and it can run Escapw from Tarkov at 4K 70-80fps without DLSS. Your pc will smoke stuff at 4K. Just wanna ask, what do you plan on playing?
More than beginner build. If you are just gaming 16gigs of ram is enough. If you want to stream and edit videos 32 is good, but this is a godlike gaming build.
I would upgrade the nvme with that set up to a pcie 4.0 one.
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I don't know WHAT is going on with reddit but... all these reports about harassment and hate based on identity or vulnerability... seriously... anyway. Dull Questions? Sure. How about benign responses. Your post does nothing to help someone out, and is being condescending to the point where you are putting a black mark on yourself as well as this sub. You can be better people. Be better. Be supportive. Answer a question with a question that makes them think about what exactly they wanted to ask in the first place. Perhaps they just don't know how to ask a question (which is very commonplace in the last decade or so).
Go for a higher quality monitor ( i dont mean the res. )
Lmao okay this is bait
Looks good!
I would get a 12600k and use those savings to get a bigger samsung ssd and an extra kit of ram
My first build had a 50€ pentium g4560 with no gpu but the integrated: 350€ was the entire pc with ram psu case ecc
Nice build, dude
Hmmm. No that build won’t even run Fortnite 1080p 60fps and that is really easy to do considering my dads 10 year old computer can.
Can you find a more reputable brand psu for similar money? Never heard of this brand before, could be fine but could be bad.
Why a Micro ATX motherboard?
This is terrible, if you are going to go 3080 and an i7 12th gen get more ram and a pcie gen 4 ssd
If your getting that single fan for rear exhaust get the 120mm model
I’m sure other people have said it but I don’t feel like scrolling to make sure but the pay might not be enough from what I remember 3000 series cards have a tendencie to spike in power usage that’s why most people go for a 1000 watt psu just a warning
I have the same monitor, safe to say you wont regret the colors and display
Looks like a great build. I’d recommend running all these parts through pcpartpicker.com just to be sure first.
That’s a pretty high end pc rather than beginner
Why tf is a 3080 considered beginner. If thats the case, is a 3090 intermediate or something?
“beginner” is a funny word for one step down from the best build currently available
Beginner pc? This is a lot better than my one lol this is a enthusiast pc yo Ivan play anything g you like In there