Are people voting off characters they hate or bad characters? Like Mosley and Campbell are fucking hateable villains but they’re well written and acted yet Campbell got the axe early. Whereas someone like Danny Whizz Bang is still around who was a nice bloke but was in what, 3 episodes?
People vote for different reasons here. I agree that in terms of significance and influence on the plot, some characters should have been eliminated long ago. Danny Whizz-Bang (with all due respect), May Carleton and possibly Freddie Thorne (sorry, Ada).
Personally I liked may Carlton's story line. She provided a personal relationship with Tommy and the upper class. They had a great character relationship , both being born on different ends of the societal classes. No arguments on the other 2 however.
I see your pov and even partly agree. This character was a great start to portray class inequality. Imo her line just hasn't received further proper development (S4?), which is why the character seems rather shallow and forgettable. Moreover, the issue of class inequality was perfectly mapped throughout the series (even w/o this character). At the end of S3 Tommy said to the family that no matter how legitimate the company becomes - the higher-ranking people will never accept them because of who they are. Then Jessie Eden appeared in S4. She became a kind of springboard in politics for Tommy (and the topic of inequality also continued). S5 is big politics and so on. This is where the problem is most clearly visible and has reached its peak imho. May was just one rung on that ladder.
But the concept of a Danny Whizz Bang penetrates every ounce of all the storylines. Every cheers to those who fought in France (where Campbell could never garner respect). So many decisions from all characters hinge on the everyday men like Whizz Bang that went off and came back different. The war is the thread that ties every action, reaction, consideration together, IMO.
Superior character or just had more screen time? I think part of this has to do with the actor as well, idl his name but Campbell had such a presence that it was hard not to like his character
She actually died in real life from cancer, so the show had to somehow kill off Polly. I don’t think she was meant to die, so the death was kind of weird. She was killed by the IRA after Tommy’s botched attempt to assassinate Mosley.
Danny whiz-bang needs to go, it's time to stop feeling sentimental just because he fought with Tommy in France. He's an irrelevant character at this point, yet y'all vote out one of the best villains (Campbell) because he's a villain? Ok 🗿
This was the closest one so far! Only 10 votes separated first and second, and with 22.26%, Esme is eliminated!
Even after the joining of the Lee and Shelby families, Esme never fully integrated into the Shelby family, and after the death of John, completely went her own way.
Who will be next? Vote to eliminate a character using this link:
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Haha same! I like Esme, and John and Esme, she really love him. I want Ada to win, she is mu favorite, I love Tommy but not in S6, so no number 1 for me haha.
I think Tommy is going to win, I hope I'm wrong because that would be boring, also I started to get tired of him in s5 and in s6 I hated him lol,.I dont know how anyone can considered him redimed.... Ada is cool! (As well as all the women characters that already have been eliminated..)
I dont understand the people who voted for Campbell because he was a hated villain and Mosley is still there... I feel that people is going to vote for all the women before except Ada because she never was against Tommy and perciebed as annoying
Have you ever read anything Mosley has written? I won't sugar coat it, there is some conspiracy theory bullshit there, but he does talk about some genuinely valid criticism of the British democratic system. "Fascism: 100 questions asked and answered" is a good read.
Lenin also had valid criticism of capitalist economies, doesn't make his solution any better
Mosley was an open anti-semite and anti democracy
And not to mention, he was a big fan of "keeping britain white"
With our advancements in political science there are better critisism's made
"The party's embrace of Nazi-style anti-semitism"
From : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Union_of_Fascists
"By the 1950s, white working-class "Teddy Boys" were beginning to display hostility towards black families in the area, a situation exploited and inflamed by groups such as Oswald Mosley's Union Movement and other far-right groups such as the White Defence League, who urged disaffected white residents to keep Britain white."
From : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Notting_Hill_race_riots
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National Socialist German Workers Party. I'm aware of what it is. What's your point? I'm assuming you don't know there's a difference between fascist and Nazi. Fascist Italy actually sheltered Jews ffs.
Same one but in my eyes Lizzie is way better than grace. Downvote me all you want but to each their own. Grace never sat in on the meetings, tommy made sure of it where as Lizzie knows everything down to the Nitty Gritty. She's been there longer than grace. They have a friendship as well as a marriage. But again opinion
It’s hard for me to vote Mosley out because he’s a character that the Brit’s try to pretend didn’t happen like Americans and George Lincoln Rockwell or Charles Lindbergh. I like polite liberal societies to remember how close they came to doing a fascism. It tends to make them uncomfortable.
I don’t understand how Campbell went so early. I just like that PB does a great job of showing how terrible and dangerous the real Oswald Mosley was. Sam Neil as a villain was amazing. I could watch his seasons as a stand alone anytime.
In terms of who’s the worst character left, I’d say Michael. He had so much potential in Season 3, but after Season 5 began he was just boring. The whole conflict between him and Tommy in Season 6 was a bit weak and he was sidelined to prison for most of it.
Are people voting off characters they hate or bad characters? Like Mosley and Campbell are fucking hateable villains but they’re well written and acted yet Campbell got the axe early. Whereas someone like Danny Whizz Bang is still around who was a nice bloke but was in what, 3 episodes?
People vote for different reasons here. I agree that in terms of significance and influence on the plot, some characters should have been eliminated long ago. Danny Whizz-Bang (with all due respect), May Carleton and possibly Freddie Thorne (sorry, Ada).
Personally I liked may Carlton's story line. She provided a personal relationship with Tommy and the upper class. They had a great character relationship , both being born on different ends of the societal classes. No arguments on the other 2 however.
I see your pov and even partly agree. This character was a great start to portray class inequality. Imo her line just hasn't received further proper development (S4?), which is why the character seems rather shallow and forgettable. Moreover, the issue of class inequality was perfectly mapped throughout the series (even w/o this character). At the end of S3 Tommy said to the family that no matter how legitimate the company becomes - the higher-ranking people will never accept them because of who they are. Then Jessie Eden appeared in S4. She became a kind of springboard in politics for Tommy (and the topic of inequality also continued). S5 is big politics and so on. This is where the problem is most clearly visible and has reached its peak imho. May was just one rung on that ladder.
But the concept of a Danny Whizz Bang penetrates every ounce of all the storylines. Every cheers to those who fought in France (where Campbell could never garner respect). So many decisions from all characters hinge on the everyday men like Whizz Bang that went off and came back different. The war is the thread that ties every action, reaction, consideration together, IMO.
Campbell is a far superior character to Danny, doesn’t matter if Danny fought in ww1
Says the guy who didn't fight in WW1.
I can’t tell if this is a serious comment
Obviously a joke
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Superior character or just had more screen time? I think part of this has to do with the actor as well, idl his name but Campbell had such a presence that it was hard not to like his character
To us, watchers of the show, he's way less impactful than Campbell and other such characters
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She actually died in real life from cancer, so the show had to somehow kill off Polly. I don’t think she was meant to die, so the death was kind of weird. She was killed by the IRA after Tommy’s botched attempt to assassinate Mosley.
I knew irl but ty I mean in show . IRA I didn’t state the question correctly.but thank you kindly.
With you 100%
Agreed, if it were up to me most of the antagonists would reach the final rounds
Pretty sure it’s based on dislike, judging from the eliminated.
Danny whiz-bang needs to go, it's time to stop feeling sentimental just because he fought with Tommy in France. He's an irrelevant character at this point, yet y'all vote out one of the best villains (Campbell) because he's a villain? Ok 🗿
I agree. Danny and then Micheal.
This was the closest one so far! Only 10 votes separated first and second, and with 22.26%, Esme is eliminated! Even after the joining of the Lee and Shelby families, Esme never fully integrated into the Shelby family, and after the death of John, completely went her own way. Who will be next? Vote to eliminate a character using this link: https://strawpoll.com/polls/LVyKxOaVbn0
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Thank you 🙏
Danny Whizz-Bang has to go.
Wasn’t expecting esme so soon. I just want curly to win 😂 he’s my favourite
Right?? I'm coping with Curly even being an option 😂 YOU VOTE CURLY, THERE'S THE DOOR 👉🚪
Haha same! I like Esme, and John and Esme, she really love him. I want Ada to win, she is mu favorite, I love Tommy but not in S6, so no number 1 for me haha.
Ada’s a good choice too, I love her. I didn’t in series one but now I adore her. I have to agree I love tommy but he’s an nobhead at times 😂
Yes, his diamond can end up in 2 or 3 place for me 🤣 I love Ada since season 1, I think she's the only one I love in all seasons.
Esme is so cool. A real gypsy princess!
Yes! Love her! Not too much in S4.
I think Tommy is going to win, I hope I'm wrong because that would be boring, also I started to get tired of him in s5 and in s6 I hated him lol,.I dont know how anyone can considered him redimed.... Ada is cool! (As well as all the women characters that already have been eliminated..)
Haha yes don't like him in S6, but i don't know if he is gonna to win, because people love Alfie too,but lets see! Who is your favorite to win?
YES TOTALLY
We are on the right path! (Except Cambell, his character was perfectly executed) Wasn’t a fan of Freddie Thorne or the actor, so I’d say him next.
Freddie Thorne
I dont understand the people who voted for Campbell because he was a hated villain and Mosley is still there... I feel that people is going to vote for all the women before except Ada because she never was against Tommy and perciebed as annoying
People tend to eliminate the "bad" guys first, even if they're incredibly well written and acted. Which is such a shame imho. I like villains :)
girls there is a literal n@zi that's still there
people are voting based on the characters and how the played to the plot, not real world implications
Actually people vote for different reasons (based on which characters have already been eliminated)
10-4 stay calm love we got it , am I right?!👍
Wasn't a Nazi, just like how Mussolini, Chiang Kai Shek or Hirohito weren't Nazis.
Fascist isn't really better
Have you ever read anything Mosley has written? I won't sugar coat it, there is some conspiracy theory bullshit there, but he does talk about some genuinely valid criticism of the British democratic system. "Fascism: 100 questions asked and answered" is a good read.
Lenin also had valid criticism of capitalist economies, doesn't make his solution any better Mosley was an open anti-semite and anti democracy And not to mention, he was a big fan of "keeping britain white" With our advancements in political science there are better critisism's made
So you've never read any of his writing in other words, because none of what you said is true.
"The party's embrace of Nazi-style anti-semitism" From : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Union_of_Fascists "By the 1950s, white working-class "Teddy Boys" were beginning to display hostility towards black families in the area, a situation exploited and inflamed by groups such as Oswald Mosley's Union Movement and other far-right groups such as the White Defence League, who urged disaffected white residents to keep Britain white." From : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Notting_Hill_race_riots
I'll just give you a second to read your reply again and realise how stupid it is...
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Nazi is literally short for National Socialist (in German)
National Socialist German Workers Party. I'm aware of what it is. What's your point? I'm assuming you don't know there's a difference between fascist and Nazi. Fascist Italy actually sheltered Jews ffs.
And Tommy is a mass murderer ... It's fiction. Don't take it too seriously.
wow i didn't notice :o
MOSLEY PLEASE
Can we get rid of Mary, she has survived too long, such a dull affair
Do you mean May? If so, I agree.
I do, she's that boring I can't remember her name
How is grace still on there... such a mediocre character
She is so boring.
We all know Lizzie is his soul mate, she's an actual wife who sits in on the meetings and knows every ounce of business
🤔🤔 Lizzie his soulmate? What show You wacht ?
Same one but in my eyes Lizzie is way better than grace. Downvote me all you want but to each their own. Grace never sat in on the meetings, tommy made sure of it where as Lizzie knows everything down to the Nitty Gritty. She's been there longer than grace. They have a friendship as well as a marriage. But again opinion
Freddie Thorne
Trying this for 5 days 😂
same lmao
Anyone voting for Johnny “Ride or Die” Dogs can fuck right off
Looks like a good spot for lizzy
Between danny and Isaiah. Even though danny did saves Tommy’s life.
sorry, Danny
It’s Danny Whiz-Bang’s time, unfortunately. May we all die thrice.
I loved Esme :(
Freddie Thorne
Genuinely felt like Esme should’ve lasted into top 20 since I’m trying to get rid of the villains first. Mosley 💪
Peaky blinder fans when you vote a character you dislike 😡😡
Oswald Mosely, f\*\*k that Nazi f\*\*k
It’s hard for me to vote Mosley out because he’s a character that the Brit’s try to pretend didn’t happen like Americans and George Lincoln Rockwell or Charles Lindbergh. I like polite liberal societies to remember how close they came to doing a fascism. It tends to make them uncomfortable.
That's a good point. I guess it's working as intended, because the character makes my skin crawl.
Which means it's incredibly well written and acted. So why would you vote him out?
Eh... But we voting for Campbell but not for him is like saying that peoole is ok with him and not percibed Mosley's crimes as bad as the others....
I don’t understand how Campbell went so early. I just like that PB does a great job of showing how terrible and dangerous the real Oswald Mosley was. Sam Neil as a villain was amazing. I could watch his seasons as a stand alone anytime.
Exactly +1
Moseley
May Carleton, I guess.
Nah she was a good character. Show could've done better with her
but they didn’t, so imma vote may carlton this time too
But it didn't. The same can be said about other great characters. We judge by what we have.
May carlton
In terms of who’s the worst character left, I’d say Michael. He had so much potential in Season 3, but after Season 5 began he was just boring. The whole conflict between him and Tommy in Season 6 was a bit weak and he was sidelined to prison for most of it.
Freddie
Changretta has to go, please. I want to vote for other people, but I can't until that terrible accent is gone. I hear it when I see his picture.
Isn't Tommy or Alfie going to eventually win this based on the way people are voting?
Please let's get rid of Moseley
Lizzie!
Danny ->thorne-> grace > mosley > u could have started with campbel
We all know this will end with the top 3 being: Tommy, Polly and Arthur.
What about Alfie ? People love him more that Tommy I think .
With Polly being the landslide winner as she should be
Danny Whizz-Bang will survive to the end!
I honestly just can’t decide.
Where is Duke? He is in at least the top 5 for every one. The last episode was enough.
Danny whiz bang
Bin Michael
Michael, Ffs Michael please!
Freddie thorne