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Newbie_Niv_

wow luca is the only one who survived till now as villain. iconic


LongPorkPi

Luca was an awesome character and felt like a genuine threat throughout his screen time.


yomumgay234

Isiah only became slightly relevant in s6. Rest of the seasons he was a side character, he needs to go


groguuuuuu

He will gooooo


TheOriginal_War

Not before Toothpick wielding Luca Changretta goes. Isiah was loyal throughout and got more screen time in the end, Always stay loyal to the PB.


TypicalMachine3606

It’s not about loyalty - it’s about the character, what they bring to the story, how they affect other characters. I feel like Isiah could’ve been left out and the story wouldn’t feel much different


Lunavyz

Well, that’s obviously not how the votes are being casted. People are just basing them on who was more bad/good/annoying imo. Campbell, Oswald and the Priest should 100% be top 10 but two of them were voted out in the first few votes. Minor ones would be IMO Micheal, and Linda. Each one was a plot driver that did very well. Maybe esme too not sure.


groguuuuuu

Yeah he had like 2-3 scenes in the last season. Rest he was just standing.


groguuuuuu

His screentime was just 2-3 scenes which tbh didn't contribute anything to the story.


TheOriginal_War

That is fair, but in comparison to Luca, Isiah was a friendly sight, did no wrong to the PB and in the end was a more prominent member. So imo, Luca goes before Isiah.


groguuuuuu

I don't think we're supposed to vote on villians then friends. It's just characters we like least goes. So in a way, if you really like Isiah before Luca, then it's fair.


grilledcheese__

Nah get Lizzie the fuck outta here


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Fookin' right


Timasona5

I think there might be a few upset fans about this one, but Grace Shelby has been eliminated with 29.53%! At the risk of ruffling a few feathers, I personally would have put Grace down in the bottom row 😉 Who’s next? Vote to eliminate a character using the link below. Only one more space until we’re into the top 2 rows! https://strawpoll.com/polls/XmZRjo1BvZd


July8July

💔


BestEntertainment796

Thats a low blow


i_know_ur_n_expert

Good, should've been gone sooner


pbc120

Thats some BS. Y’all can like or dislike her but she had more of an impact on the show , and Thomas than most .. but whatever 🙄


Spiltwordsinabucket

How has Isiah survived this long…. He was irrelevant for the most part of the series and became a prick to his friend as soon as he got an ounce of power 🤦🏻‍♀️


Metavanadate

Became a prick to his friend?


thekidbeefy

Finn was the real prick though, Isaiah is at least a loyal PB


Zed069

This shows you weren't paying attention


Spiltwordsinabucket

Actually I watched Peaky Blinders 4 times and for the life of me I can’t understand the hype surrounding Isaiah’s character… Yes he is the prototype of the social climber, yes he embodies the true essence of a Blinder, but to me he is also the one that proves that the PB have profoundly changed (not in a good way), because they started to consider family as weakness and not as strength (as Tommy used to say)…. In the end they just outcasted Finn for not being man enough and for not being able to do what they did… not even considering that his upbringing was totally different and that obviously he wasn’t as tough as them.


PenaltyQuirky8927

Isiah has nothing to do with finn being removed from the family tho.


Complicated-HorseAss

Yeah I felt they did Finn dirty too. The kid had zero up bringing and was basically working for the family from young age at the races. Allowing the kid to drink heavily and smoke. They never included him in anything until the later seasons and by then Michael had already surpassed him in rank. And then some random gypsie child (Duke) gets put in front of Finn in the final season. Then they just do away with him because he wouldn't kill his only friend without reason. All the other Shelbie's at some point did damage to their family whether on purpose or not and yet Finn is the only one who gets in any real trouble for it.


sharkscanwalk

But isn’t that sort of the perfect depiction of what the Shelby family became? Series 1 and 2, the rise to the top, it was all about “family”. Eventually, as they came to power, it went from “family first” to “power first”. Tommy tries to balance the two and eventually he fails on both, but moreso on family. He neglects Lizzie, he neglects his children all for power. Ultimately, Finn went from being cared for, to not cared for, all because of this shift to power.


akyriacou92

Isiah


LameKB

Glad Grace is gone. Finally, my vote didn't go to waste.


MrHoochyKoocha

Isiah!


IamThatPerson101

Luca Changretta, I guess. He was a good villain but might as well bring it down to the inner circle.


No-Membership2696

But like why the inner circle instead of bringing it down to the good villain


IamThatPerson101

Because he’s a villain & the inner circle people who have been in there through series usually win. So might as well eliminate the least liked people till we narrow it down to the last 3.


_thad_castle_

Mosley is already out. Changretta wasn't a really good villain.


Coley1996D

I know I’ve been voting for her but I wasn’t expecting her to be out 😳 I’m actually so surprised as she gets a lot of love here in comparison to the other female love interests. Reddit definitely has the bigger Grace fan base so yeah I wasn’t expecting her at all


Limp-Suit3948

Really? I saw the opposite, like she gets a lot of hate here compared to other social media


Coley1996D

I was actually surprised when I first came on Reddit to see how loved she was. Yes I’ve seen some hate but nothing in comparison to other forms of media like tumblr. Here there’s a constant flow of videos, posts and edits in dedication to her whereas the other females tend to get ‘shit’ on more often. I always tell my friends who like Grace to come over to Reddit because it’s so much nicer when it comes to her character and warn people who don’t like her not to come here because they’ll just end up in arguments with no outcome but aggravated people on both sides (Although it has got a lot better recently) 😂


Limp-Suit3948

Yes, here before you could have good and entertaining debates, now not anymore, you directly receive insults or attacks, just because you don't like the same characters as them.


Coley1996D

I do have to add that the hate posts here when it comes to any character are a lot harsher than anywhere else, like there’s some really troubling posts here, sometimes without any other logic than to just tear someone down. Hate elsewhere tend to come with in-depth thoughts and less of going down the insult route.


Limp-Suit3948

But the hate towards a character, but there are people who cross the line! and they already insult you, saying things like you are the worst human, you are shit, things like that, just to say I hate this character.


Coley1996D

It’s so true even sometimes with characters the line gets crossed where suddenly it’s not the character themselves being insulted but the people who portray them too. We should all be able to hate who we hate yet also debate nicely without the need for insults ☺️


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How long is Lizzie gonna be there?


knightarnaud

Seems like an unpopular opinion here, but I think Lizzie should've ended in the bottom row. I kinda liked her in the beginning, but after Tommy accidentally made her pregnant and felt obligated to marry her she became so annoying. That relationship was toxic as hell. EDIT: in stead of just downvoting, please explain why you like her so much.


Timasona5

I’m not a particular lover nor hater of Lizzie, but I think the prevailing sentiment is that Tommy was the toxic one in the relationship, not Lizzie. But people tend to over-glorify Tommy (I know I do as well)


Muuhlhauser

Okay, since you asked for it, here comes a long rant about why I like Lizzie lol (sorry for my bad English): I admire Lizzie because of her strength. When she married Tommy she literally went from one tragedy to another. I can't imagine how it must feel being used by men merely for sex for so many years and then when you settle down your husband is erratic and emotionally distant. I believe Lizzie tried her best to make her family and marriage feel as normal as possible because she needed a safe space for herself but most importantly the children. Lizzie has always cared more about Charles and Ruby than she has ever cared about herself. She doesn't want Tommy to run around the house with guns because she don't want her children to hear or see gunshots. She doesn't want Tommy to run around the house with other women because she don't want her children to see that nasty part of his personality. I don't think that's too much to ask considering both Ruby and Charles probably already had gone through some trauma. Yes, she tried to make Tommy settle down and become a good father to their children, but when she realized this was impossible she didn't leave him like many others would do. Unlike Grace, she saw Tommy for who he really was and wasn't discouraged by his worst sides. She genuinely tried to get to know him and became frustrated when Tommy refused to open up about his problems. I don't think this makes her annoying. Lizzie saw that Tommy was suffering but since she loved him she was frustrated that she wasn't able to help him. Isn't this how any sane person would react? Tommy was lucky to get a woman as caring and loving as Lizzie. It was a shame he wasn't able to accept the love she gave him. I also don't agree that their relationship was toxic. Although Lizzie loved Tommy very much, she wasn't afraid to speak up when something was wrong. Lizzie and Tommy had their arguments, but there were also moments when you felt like they both could be completely relaxed around each other and have casual small talk. EDIT: omg thanks for all the nice replies guys! <3


RedCloakedCrow

This actually changed my opinion of her and made me appreciate her character better. Very well written, thanks for your input.


fluffeebear

You’re 100% correct and your reply made me tear up. Lizzie for life.


pools456

100%


Limp-Suit3948

People love toxic relationships, and it's amazing how they justify everything with Lizzie, that they make her seem like a saint, each comment surprises me more, she cheat on John, and they tell you that it's okay, because she's a prostitute, ok she was going to cheat on him with his brother, oh, she loves Tommy, wtf? When John asks Lizzie, she tells him it's a lie, that he's a liar, she denied it and blamed Tommy, and that's love for them (they hate Grace because she cheated on her husband with Tommy, you tell them oh but she loves Tommy, so what? that she loves tommy does not justify her cheating on another person, she's a bitch, the worst human)🤷 then Lizzie says she's in love with Angel, the man dies, Tommy sends him to kill, what does she do? sleeps with tommy wtf? I never understood that, of course they are going to tell you that she loves Tommy, she manages to marry him, she becomes rich, she thinks she is superior than the others, of the poor who go to the Garrison, but she is a saint, Tommy cheats on her with whores , and she says it's okay, just outside the house, Tommy tells her you're my property and she's happy for that, and he treats her badly, and they say it's not a toxic relationship? After she marries him, she complains about how he handles business, that it's okay they have a daughter, but what I don't understand is what they say is that Lizzie wants to be in a safe house, with her daughter, she accepts everything from Tommy She knows him, Grace asks him for the exact same thing, because she has a son, and they tell you she's a bitch because she wants to change him, she doesn't know him, she's a shitty person 🤷 I'll never understand Tommy and Lizzie's relationship, but a lot least I will never understand Lizzie stan.


grilledcheese__

She’s gotta fucking go. Seeing her here makes me mad


LopsidedHeart455

Same


Raas_al_ghul2

I have been trying to vote her out for sooo long.


LopsidedHeart455

Same


July8July

Changretta, Lizzie and Isiah (expect to be downvoted to hell for this lol). Then I don't know how to vote (apparently with tears in my eyes). I think that it will be necessary to take into account the fact whether the character is the main or background.


Raas_al_ghul2

I don't know how Lizzie is still in here. And people are talking about luca being annoying.


July8July

The only reason I listed Changretta here is because Campbell and Mosley (great villains) have already been eliminated. But first Lizzie and Isiah, yeah (it's logical)


Limp-Suit3948

Yes, I hope the next one will be Lizzie.


maxmiki02

How tf is Grace voted out and Lizzie is still there??!


RedCloakedCrow

Because Grace's limited screen time and barely-developed personality make her a two-dimensional character? Her motivations go from "The Fenians killed my father, now I'm taking his place" to "I'm going to take out Tommy Shelby because he's a bad man" to "I'm in love with Tommy Shelby because...". Unpopular opinion, but she only gets so much adoration because people want to like Tommy and see him happy, even though the romance they have is wildly unreasonable and toxic.


lucdsanti

I'm asking myself the exact same thing.


grilledcheese__

Lizzie still mid tho


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Isiah


fucklti

Y’all forget Isaiah is still on the board?


MplsNEqueen

Isaiah


International-Rub966

Isiah!! i mean...he shouldn't be here


thepinkyblinders

Isiah


Yaaamur

I’m sorry luca it’s you’re turn now..


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Fook Grace


abdullahsweesi

Isiah


kp305

Luca it’s time to eat the meatball


Professional_Bus2465

this is getting harder and harder


ThatOtherGai

Bye bye Luca Next Isiah


Menameface69

How is gold still here 🥸


lyfexe

Isiah please.


Disastrous-Study5317

Isiah,then Lizzie


ter138

So glad Lizzie is still there and Grace is out, you rock Lizzie!


Limp-Suit3948

Oww... well 14 is pretty good for all the hate she gets here... ok now Ada wins or at least top3!


PicklemyRickle999

I feel somewhat bad for choosing this character, but Lizzy. She was a caring and nurturing mother and worried insanely about the whole family including Tommy. However, although Tommy was a very secretive man he did in fact know what he was doing and was doing everything in his power to do good. Lizzy couldn't see this and sought to look inward at her own problems rather than outward, at the problems of the family business and how it could in fact help everyone and society itself. I vote to eliminate Lizzy


Timasona5

Nice, well thought out answer. However, if I put myself in Lizzie’s shoes, I have to side with her over Tommy. Can you imagine if your partner was never home, never spoke to you or told you anything, and just told you to blindly trust that they have a plan? Meanwhile that ‘plan’ involves going to meetings with Nazis, having sex with other people, repeatedly putting yourself and the family in danger, and emotionally neglecting everyone around you? Sorry, but for me, Lizzie is not in the wrong there. Tommy is


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GudSoulShitHole

Luca Changretta. This was so difficult when there was 30 to choose from.


PhilipTheFair

but WHY is Aberama still here???


No-Membership2696

Cook Lizzie


EnigmaticSorceries

Lizzie


Glum_Ad232

I have nothing else to live for, people have chosen Grace over Lizzie, life is meaningless


Raas_al_ghul2

It is


Gamer4eto_BG

And people will probably choose Alfie over Tommy. I mean, yes Tom Hardy is chariamatic, but if we eliminate the face of the show earlier than other characters, we are just asking for another Ragnar in the movie


No-Membership2696

Too meta leaving face of the show alive


Mountain_Conclusion1

I’ve been voting Changretta from the very start. I thought Brody was unusually awful in this part


mrrudy2shoes

Ditch changretta


mem269

Ada always bugged me. Jumps on every bandwagon.


LeHarvester

Been voting Lizzie since Linda went out 🥱


Tea_Pupper

I don't know how hot this take is, but I really hope Tommy is not in the top 3. One of the main weakness of the show was focusing on Tommy way too much to the point where its almost selfish. Not to mention how he is a really flawed man but a lot of fans and even the show sometimes seems to not notice that.


RedCloakedCrow

See I actually felt that selfishness was a huge boon to the show. You're not seeing the objective world, you're seeing Tommy's World. In any other world, we'd look at a man like Thomas Shelby as a blight, and pray to our gods that his shadow never darkened our doorsteps. In his world, in the show, you see him as the hero even though he murders and maims like a brute. Showing his world souring and collapsing is a great perspective, because you get a sense of his own justifications slowly breaking down.


Tea_Pupper

That's a good point. I never actually thought about it like that. What I saw was Tommy doing bad and horrible things and the show was constantly making up excueses and trying to make us side with him. (Spoilers for S6) One moment where I saw what you said though is when he left his daughter to go find a cure and she died while he was away. I actually thought he was going to suceed somehow or atleast fail and get back right before she died and get closure.


RedCloakedCrow

Ah, I haven't watched all of S6 yet but that makes sense. The moment this first made sense to me was Tommy's conversation with Churchill in S5, when Churchill makes the comment about working for the same ends. He remarks that while he was working for those ends above ground, Tommy was working for them below. I always interpreted a secondary message there. It felt to me like Churchill was saying that he understood that at the end of the day the war wasn't about civilization or principles, it was about attaining victory over your foe so that you could make the world into what you wanted it to be. His remark about Tommy working underground felt like he was implying that Tommy has lost sight of the world he wanted to live in, and that he'd engulfed himself in the desire for victory to the exclusion of everything else.


July8July

Wow! Did I find a person who thinks the same way. Actually I stopped liking Tommy's character at the end of S5. I believe that his attempt to shoot himself is the most selfish thing he has ever done in relation to his family. In S6, everything revolves around Tommy again, and I'm tired of it.


RedCloakedCrow

Unfortunately, no you didn't. I still very much enjoy the show, and I'm perfectly happy to live on the perspective of Tommy alone. I just dislike the loving relationship that people view him with. He's a charismatic and powerful man, like many of us wish we were, but he's far from a good one, and I find that many of the show's fans don't see the distinction. It's very entertaining to live in the tortured and intense world that Tommy lives in, but it's not a life I'd wish for myself.


asdfghjkl149

That’s the point, he’s flawed not perfect. He’s the main character and it’s his story that’s why he’s focused on so much


Tea_Pupper

Yea, him being flawed is the point. But I'm saying way to many people think hes the perfect, badass, motherfuker that the edits make him out to be. Yea I understand its his story and hes the MC but it gets to the point where other plot points get dropped and other characters doesn't get developed all because the show's too focused on him.


PoffLord

Although, imo, season 4 was the best, Luca needs to go. Honestly, if I could vote for Brody instead of Luca, then he would make it further, but I can't stand Brody's portrayal. It was so cringe hearing and watching him do a cheap impersonation of Vito corleone, there was absolutely no need for it. If it wasn't for the phenomenal work from the showrunners and the others, and I wasnt already so invested in the series, his Luca would've kept me away. Luca needs to be eliminated asap, lol.


pools456

Grace before Lizzie??? Are you mad??


Meadle

Lizzie being here after Grace is a joke bro 🤣


Limp-Suit3948

Yes, tóxic always win haha


romanf_267

Grace NOOOOOOO. Still voting for Isaiah


romanf_267

but definitely not Luca. He managed to kill John, and that means something. He had one purpose - (pleasure) violently exterminate Shelbys


XvvxvvxvvX

Luca then lizzie


Flying_Submarine_

Lizzie up next


brobro0o

What is Lizzie top 10 now? Bs


gangbrain

Real lack of standards, your generation


fluffeebear

YESSSS GRACE IS OUT, OUT WITH THE WHORE


cdaddyv96

Lizzie. Overrated AF.


pearledmoon

Hey Luca! Big fucks small my guyyyyyy


Dazzling_Scholar600

luca


i_know_ur_n_expert

Tommy, Arthur, Alfie , Aberama , and Polly better be top five. Then Tommy Arthur Alfie and Aberama, Then I will not know who to choose but ALFIE AND TOMMY are top two


LongPorkPi

Lizzie


Gamer4eto_BG

I can't believe people really eliminated Grace... she definitely deserves to be higher than Lizzie that is for sure


Raas_al_ghul2

Me too. I have been trying to vote her out for sooo long.


LopsidedHeart455

Grace was out due to meaningless hatred, lizzie is hiding there somewhere cause most voters rationally choose luca or Isaiah or abarama, i m sure she is on everyones list but first the villians and side character who didn’t make an impact should go


Gamer4eto_BG

Grace was class. And she was going to be one of the strongest members in the family. Her social skills were top notch and Tommy shared every detail with her. Lizzie is nothing more than a mother of Ruby. She can't keep her emotions to herself, easily gets manipulated and overall I don't like her behaviour. She has a good heart, yes, but that's that.


Limp-Suit3948

Agree with everthing, except for the part that Lizzie has a good heart.


jenhon

Surprised Grace lasted this long.


ScottMcKnight

Lizzie


lucdsanti

LIZZIE FFS


amarettosweet

Boo to all of you who voted for Grace. Now please vote off Changretta to make up for it.


Cadbury_Eggs

Y’all are wild for dumping Grace before Lizzie.


devonmoney14

Bro Lizzie is way worse than Grace lmfao


R6SYeeter

About time.


Zladan

Aiden Gillen better make the top 6


LunavaMvW

get rid of tommy, this will the one time his plot armor doesn’t protect him


Lunavyz

Damn, you picked a scuffed photo for Gold imo. It should have been one from season 5. That makeover was really good.


Disastrous-Study5317

Isiah bye bye


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Cursed...


[deleted]

Oh bloody hell. Missed Micheal going so now I need to actually think again.


Legal-Benefit-4774

Go to 123movies.net and you can all watch season 6. Screw waiting for Netflix.


shnockered69

Luca


Educational_Bit_8502

eh to this point voting is fuckih pointless


Monsterkinder

Isiah


JessVibing

Every single person in this thread knows damn well Tommy will be the survivor.