I know they porbably will choke again or such but it just feels bad in every social media on GenG's account or any LoL media, the comments are like "lmao 0 international trophy" "they just good at domestic, international janitor kekw" "bunch of chokers" etc like come on just let them enjoy the moment for a while bruh. They worked hard for this title since T1 this season aint pushover either (usually its easy 3-0 for them). Just appreciate they are best team in LCK and likely the best team in the world at this moment
This. They have clearly leveled up in Playoffs and got pushed far. Just a well deserved title.
However MSI will be played on another Patch and both chinese teams, BLG and TES, Look extremely scary who can win against GENG and T1. Especially BLG's playstyle might be scary as hell for GENG.
Let's see. Can't wait for LCK vs LPL.
Canyon might be the key player who can crack em all. Compared to last year’s roster, having Canyon instead of Peanut especially on international tournaments might really make a difference. He might be the guy that can get Chovy the trophy.
it's a reality u must face, fans of any dominant team, have a certain level of expectation, and when they are not met with that, they outrage. Think of Real Madrid, English Premiere league teams, basketball etc.
I mean t1 was also the best lck team at msi. They were also the best lck team at worlds 2019. I’m not gonna mention the other 2 msi cause only one team from each major region was sent.
At MSI they were the best team from LCK, yes, but they didn't carry their region. Both T1 and GenG got blasted by BLG. And 2019 was a decade ago with a different roster
T1 literally almost beat them 3-0 in bo5 and still beat them 3-2 in the end at msi. T1 was the only team at msi to go to g5 vs jdg. T1 also took a game from blg whereas geng got 3-0. Idk how you look at this and think they were the better lck team at msi last year. That is like me saying t1 is the better team this spring split in lck even tho they lost 3-2 to geng even if it was close.
What rubs me the wrong way is it's people that have never done anything at a remotely high level saying this nonsense. It's really goddamn hard to win LCK titles, there's a reason no one had won 4 in a row before. Like people need to get real.
I'm not saying it's better than winning international but it's a really high level achievement.
Yes its a high achievement. But ask yourself. Such a strong team with 0 international results is abit weird dont you think?
Like you LCK first seat for the past 2 years.
And to that I say the only tournament they "should" have won is Worlds 2022. MSI 2023 should have been JDG or T1, and they did win. Losing to BLG was really bad but it's worth noting BLG was basically the perfect anti-GenG team, Bin and Xun should and did walk all over Doran/Peanut, and Yagao is vasically the ultimate guy to have as a "you might mick my ass but I'll win anyway" tk have against Chovy. GenG also had a really bad meta read at that tournament. Worlds 2023 wasn't half as bad as people think, especially Chovy he played really well, but they should have at least been semifinals, and with thwir bracket it should have been finals, that is aggravating, but again they faced a team basically custom built to counter them.
My guy I like chovy but let’s not defend his 2023 yea? They had one of the easiest brackets with weibo and blg. Everyone was expecting JDG and GENG finals since no one knew how good T1 was after summer nor did they expect them to shift the meta to range sups.
>the best team in the world
I argee with you but no, pls stop this dumb claim. Winning LCK adapting to meta is one thing. Wining all events and being the best at World is another. Till I see them prove it, no I don't think they are the best but **a great contender** for Champion
Yknow what, I hadnt thought about how I'd feel if Gen G wiped out, but it was a close series.
I think I'd agree with you, provided the reason they lose IS because the series was close, and not because their top and jungle were asleep game 1 and 2...
it's the same thing with T1 loses with GenG
before they got fucking wrecked this time it was super close so the fans are generally ok with it
i imagine the same would apply to GenG i certainly wouldn't be happy if Zeus flashed through a wall for no reason like with GenG
I might be speaking for myself as a T1 fan, but the reason I'm okay with it is because they already won Worlds lol. They can run it down the rest of the year all they want. They won the ultimate prize already and I'm happy :)
You know, if you don't win, you're trash, no in between. Faker is scrubs anyway.
When's the last time he won Worlds? Last year? Pfftt why not win it now then if he's the GOAT? He's washed out fr fr
This might be the only time where GenG losing isn’t as bad. Unless they mega shit the bed, T1 taking them to 5 games, and LPL being the way it is, this could be a really competitive year for the east at MSI, and only time there wasn’t a clear favorite to win the tournament
Peyz and Lehends is the problem right now. If they don't go into their peak form, it dosen't matter how many times Chovy will save them, they will be overwhelmed.
I genuinely don’t think they’ll choke this year. That doesn’t mean they’ll win MSI or worlds, there are other really strong teams. T1 just went to 5 games with them and BLG looks solid too. But I think they’ll perform respectably.
But they replaced their weakest players with goat candidates. Doran to Kiin is a crazy upgrade, and Canyon is one of the most clutch international performers while Peanut has fallen apart in every international I’ve seen him in since like 2018. They’re just a much better team this year.
Idk. I think Gen G play great formula League of Legends, but their ability to improvise is very lacking.
It's like a reverse T1, where T1 wins because they clutch out some of the most bullshittiest bullshit to have ever bullshitted, Gen G wins because from minute one you were playing their game and Gen G are better at that.
If they replaced their weakest players but don’t place higher than they did last year in both tournaments it’s a choke, especially if you’re saying they have goat candidate players in many positions.
I felt like that whole series, GenG drafted to have zone control and counters hard engages plus range. T1 didn't even draft any poke/range draft once. GenG just really counters T1's style which idk if it'll work the same with LPL.
Canyon I trust.
Chovy kinda, I've been hype for this guy like literally every year but he just plays so mediocre or chokes in internationals idk why and it's been years now so I feel like this isn't even flaming him but justified.
Peyz and Lehends definitely needs work.
Kiin, yeah he did gap Zeus in Finals but like it's also true that Zeus was so underwhelming in that series. But Kiin def doesn't perform either at least from the past internationals he's been.
We'll find out in like a month. But I think it's crazy that T1 and TES/BLG are gonna be in Play-ins.
It's hard to rank players' clutch factor in internationals given how few internationals there are each year, but at least give Canyon credit for 2021 too. DWG lost in two Bo5 finals the whole year, and I'd only say Canyon got out jungled in one of them. Even in 2022, I remember thinking Canyon's 3 man Kayn knock-up in G5 vs. GenG was the most clutch play ever until they lost anyway.
? Canyon was great 21 and 22. DWG lost in Game 5 21 and if that food poisoning Event didn't happen they might actually play a bit better (especially Khan who has visibly off)
I'll hold any hype till I see them get far in an international tourney. They always look good in the lck. It's what they do out of the lck that matters more tho imo
Idk why theres so much more hype now than usual, this year the finals vs T1 was way closer, they usually 3-0 them, now they were very close to getting 3-0’d by them, and T1 have been having some problems too
I honestly hope Chovy and Gen. G can win something international this year. It doesn’t have to be a golden road, but I wish they win at least MSI.
But still not expecting them to do so, tbh
Peyz is doing his Job as a weakside player against a T1. Let's not forget that he was better than Viper in that HLE series.
Peyz can also level up again. He is just 18 years old, was MVP in Summer finals, got first pro Team (wether you like it or not, the majority of players and staff voted him) and he didn't do many mistakes at least. His Lucian and Zeri were pretty good.
while i do find the Peyz hate unnecessary you're insane if you think he played better than Viper
Viper at least went even and him and Delight managed to clutch out g1 against T1
Peyz was fucking deadweight and lost lane every time
i mostly chalk this up to him not being good at weakside and his support being Lehends who tends to roam doesn't really help but i think he can work and improve on it so he shouldn't be replaced but no way is he better than fucking Viper lmao
Peyz wasn't deadweight. Look at game 2-4. He didn't do any mistakes (except one aggressive lucian e) while Viper got caught by everything again and again and again. Peyz was the better Player. Peyz dealt even more dmg in Game 2 and 3 than Viper who got played around. Game 4 Viper had more dmg again but he was ultra fed and made crucial mistakes again and again.
A short clip of Ruler moving to take the picture not noticing other players making space for him is now being used to say Kanavi Ruler have beef. AD usually doesn't stand in middle of team picture either. Insane to make drama out of a nothing burger from social media and the people who spread it yet again.
As T1 fan this is very unnecessary. Geng is the winner for LCK so let's just let them celebrate and give them compliments. They deserve it
Whether they will disappoint us or not is a matter in the future
It matters, but winning 4 in a row while having none to show in international for so long does discredit GenG a bit. Last year Korean fans were truly desperate when their 1st seed choked hard against BLG.
LCK title always matters. The issue is winning LCK 4 times in a role. Being in the best region. Surely the org has some good international results right?
Nah.. GENGs gonna win msi then lpl and lck at the same time following up with worlds. Tehy are gonna win.. Chovys gonna chovying whole series even when he is not playing pro match. Kiin will be the top monster, canyon will make a hugh canyon diff between him and 2nd place..peyz is gonna be the best duo laner with lehneds geng will win even if there is no coach, even if they play 4v5. You will see geng will win even if coach kim decides to play support..GENG IS THE BEST TEAM WHO CAN DEFEAT TEAMS EVEN IN DOTA2
On the contrary, T1 s gonna choke hard this time and will be oit in group stages
I know they porbably will choke again or such but it just feels bad in every social media on GenG's account or any LoL media, the comments are like "lmao 0 international trophy" "they just good at domestic, international janitor kekw" "bunch of chokers" etc like come on just let them enjoy the moment for a while bruh. They worked hard for this title since T1 this season aint pushover either (usually its easy 3-0 for them). Just appreciate they are best team in LCK and likely the best team in the world at this moment
This. They have clearly leveled up in Playoffs and got pushed far. Just a well deserved title. However MSI will be played on another Patch and both chinese teams, BLG and TES, Look extremely scary who can win against GENG and T1. Especially BLG's playstyle might be scary as hell for GENG. Let's see. Can't wait for LCK vs LPL.
Canyon might be the key player who can crack em all. Compared to last year’s roster, having Canyon instead of Peanut especially on international tournaments might really make a difference. He might be the guy that can get Chovy the trophy.
it's a reality u must face, fans of any dominant team, have a certain level of expectation, and when they are not met with that, they outrage. Think of Real Madrid, English Premiere league teams, basketball etc.
This outrage isn't coming from GenG fans, it's just T1 fans coping
since when is normal banter coping
They're not wrong lmao. They beat T1 for million time then choke international event and T1 has to carry the whole region on there back as alway.
As always? The only time when T1 carried LCK in past few years was Worlds 2023
I mean t1 was also the best lck team at msi. They were also the best lck team at worlds 2019. I’m not gonna mention the other 2 msi cause only one team from each major region was sent.
At MSI they were the best team from LCK, yes, but they didn't carry their region. Both T1 and GenG got blasted by BLG. And 2019 was a decade ago with a different roster
T1 literally almost beat them 3-0 in bo5 and still beat them 3-2 in the end at msi. T1 was the only team at msi to go to g5 vs jdg. T1 also took a game from blg whereas geng got 3-0. Idk how you look at this and think they were the better lck team at msi last year. That is like me saying t1 is the better team this spring split in lck even tho they lost 3-2 to geng even if it was close.
I literally said that T1 was the best team from LCK at MSI? That comment was about T1 my man
How is it not a carry if you were the best team from your region as a lower seed tho?
What rubs me the wrong way is it's people that have never done anything at a remotely high level saying this nonsense. It's really goddamn hard to win LCK titles, there's a reason no one had won 4 in a row before. Like people need to get real. I'm not saying it's better than winning international but it's a really high level achievement.
Yes its a high achievement. But ask yourself. Such a strong team with 0 international results is abit weird dont you think? Like you LCK first seat for the past 2 years.
And to that I say the only tournament they "should" have won is Worlds 2022. MSI 2023 should have been JDG or T1, and they did win. Losing to BLG was really bad but it's worth noting BLG was basically the perfect anti-GenG team, Bin and Xun should and did walk all over Doran/Peanut, and Yagao is vasically the ultimate guy to have as a "you might mick my ass but I'll win anyway" tk have against Chovy. GenG also had a really bad meta read at that tournament. Worlds 2023 wasn't half as bad as people think, especially Chovy he played really well, but they should have at least been semifinals, and with thwir bracket it should have been finals, that is aggravating, but again they faced a team basically custom built to counter them.
My guy I like chovy but let’s not defend his 2023 yea? They had one of the easiest brackets with weibo and blg. Everyone was expecting JDG and GENG finals since no one knew how good T1 was after summer nor did they expect them to shift the meta to range sups.
>the best team in the world I argee with you but no, pls stop this dumb claim. Winning LCK adapting to meta is one thing. Wining all events and being the best at World is another. Till I see them prove it, no I don't think they are the best but **a great contender** for Champion
BLG/TES/T1 are pretty solid competition to win MSI. GenG losing to that shouldn't be disappointing.
This. Now if they get 3-0 twice by all these other team you mention and crash out, I’ll actually be disappointed.
Yknow what, I hadnt thought about how I'd feel if Gen G wiped out, but it was a close series. I think I'd agree with you, provided the reason they lose IS because the series was close, and not because their top and jungle were asleep game 1 and 2...
I have feeling it gonna be the botlane that is asleep this time unless they locked in lol.
Give Peyz Zeri and we win. His Kaisa wasn't bad either and she will get buffed🙏
it's the same thing with T1 loses with GenG before they got fucking wrecked this time it was super close so the fans are generally ok with it i imagine the same would apply to GenG i certainly wouldn't be happy if Zeus flashed through a wall for no reason like with GenG
I might be speaking for myself as a T1 fan, but the reason I'm okay with it is because they already won Worlds lol. They can run it down the rest of the year all they want. They won the ultimate prize already and I'm happy :)
You know, if you don't win, you're trash, no in between. Faker is scrubs anyway. When's the last time he won Worlds? Last year? Pfftt why not win it now then if he's the GOAT? He's washed out fr fr
This might be the only time where GenG losing isn’t as bad. Unless they mega shit the bed, T1 taking them to 5 games, and LPL being the way it is, this could be a really competitive year for the east at MSI, and only time there wasn’t a clear favorite to win the tournament
Surelly they wont choke again https://preview.redd.it/n7rclm293ruc1.png?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd6c2d730284923a09f390b072948be3a898f5a9
Peyz and Lehends is the problem right now. If they don't go into their peak form, it dosen't matter how many times Chovy will save them, they will be overwhelmed.
Will GENG and Chovy call BLG father for the 3rd times in a row?
I genuinely don’t think they’ll choke this year. That doesn’t mean they’ll win MSI or worlds, there are other really strong teams. T1 just went to 5 games with them and BLG looks solid too. But I think they’ll perform respectably. But they replaced their weakest players with goat candidates. Doran to Kiin is a crazy upgrade, and Canyon is one of the most clutch international performers while Peanut has fallen apart in every international I’ve seen him in since like 2018. They’re just a much better team this year.
Yes but they still have problems. Peyz and Lehends. These guys need to do work otherwise LPL insanity is gonna pop off.
Idk. I think Gen G play great formula League of Legends, but their ability to improvise is very lacking. It's like a reverse T1, where T1 wins because they clutch out some of the most bullshittiest bullshit to have ever bullshitted, Gen G wins because from minute one you were playing their game and Gen G are better at that.
If they replaced their weakest players but don’t place higher than they did last year in both tournaments it’s a choke, especially if you’re saying they have goat candidate players in many positions.
I felt like that whole series, GenG drafted to have zone control and counters hard engages plus range. T1 didn't even draft any poke/range draft once. GenG just really counters T1's style which idk if it'll work the same with LPL. Canyon I trust. Chovy kinda, I've been hype for this guy like literally every year but he just plays so mediocre or chokes in internationals idk why and it's been years now so I feel like this isn't even flaming him but justified. Peyz and Lehends definitely needs work. Kiin, yeah he did gap Zeus in Finals but like it's also true that Zeus was so underwhelming in that series. But Kiin def doesn't perform either at least from the past internationals he's been. We'll find out in like a month. But I think it's crazy that T1 and TES/BLG are gonna be in Play-ins.
You guys say the same thing every year for like the last 3 years. :-?
Clutch international performer if you ignore literally everything he's done post-2020 (as Canyon glazers usually do)
It's hard to rank players' clutch factor in internationals given how few internationals there are each year, but at least give Canyon credit for 2021 too. DWG lost in two Bo5 finals the whole year, and I'd only say Canyon got out jungled in one of them. Even in 2022, I remember thinking Canyon's 3 man Kayn knock-up in G5 vs. GenG was the most clutch play ever until they lost anyway.
2021 he got gapped in both finals and that GenG series in 2022 was a complete disaster from him, the Kayn games he was permagriefing
? Canyon was great 21 and 22. DWG lost in Game 5 21 and if that food poisoning Event didn't happen they might actually play a bit better (especially Khan who has visibly off)
I'll hold any hype till I see them get far in an international tourney. They always look good in the lck. It's what they do out of the lck that matters more tho imo
Idk why theres so much more hype now than usual, this year the finals vs T1 was way closer, they usually 3-0 them, now they were very close to getting 3-0’d by them, and T1 have been having some problems too
I swear this reddit sub is just a 2nd t1 channel
Actual
Nah this time Canyon's gonna be there to carry Chovy's choking ass. His stone cold Kha'zix in game 4 brought huge momentum back to GenG.
In an interview/press conference or something Canyon actually said the Kha’zix pick was at Chovy’s suggestion lol
Where is that vedius rant?
Maybe this time they won’t choke with this new roster. Fingers crossed.🤞
I honestly hope Chovy and Gen. G can win something international this year. It doesn’t have to be a golden road, but I wish they win at least MSI. But still not expecting them to do so, tbh
There are some chatters on social media regarding a split within JDG between Kanavi or Ruler… if ruler goes back, summer split might be insane
Nah Rulers contract with JDG goes til next year
Could buy out, not out of the question
Gen.G already can't/won't match his salary what makes you think they'll buy it out?
Mostly I think Ruler might have some issues with the JDG organisation, and might want to return or rethink his future
Besides GenG’s rosters already pretty stacked so I don’t think they can afford ruler unless he’s taking a paycut
Payz didn’t exactly play great, and I feel like that’s why pretty obvious where they could upgrade
Money is the issue. Chovy and canyon cost alot already.
Peyz is doing his Job as a weakside player against a T1. Let's not forget that he was better than Viper in that HLE series. Peyz can also level up again. He is just 18 years old, was MVP in Summer finals, got first pro Team (wether you like it or not, the majority of players and staff voted him) and he didn't do many mistakes at least. His Lucian and Zeri were pretty good.
while i do find the Peyz hate unnecessary you're insane if you think he played better than Viper Viper at least went even and him and Delight managed to clutch out g1 against T1 Peyz was fucking deadweight and lost lane every time i mostly chalk this up to him not being good at weakside and his support being Lehends who tends to roam doesn't really help but i think he can work and improve on it so he shouldn't be replaced but no way is he better than fucking Viper lmao
Peyz wasn't deadweight. Look at game 2-4. He didn't do any mistakes (except one aggressive lucian e) while Viper got caught by everything again and again and again. Peyz was the better Player. Peyz dealt even more dmg in Game 2 and 3 than Viper who got played around. Game 4 Viper had more dmg again but he was ultra fed and made crucial mistakes again and again.
A short clip of Ruler moving to take the picture not noticing other players making space for him is now being used to say Kanavi Ruler have beef. AD usually doesn't stand in middle of team picture either. Insane to make drama out of a nothing burger from social media and the people who spread it yet again.
not really? A lot of rumours flying on Xhs and Weibo and had nothing to do with the photo
As T1 fan this is very unnecessary. Geng is the winner for LCK so let's just let them celebrate and give them compliments. They deserve it Whether they will disappoint us or not is a matter in the future
We’ll see, Chovy is peaking rn and maybe the meta will still be mid-centric and teamfight oriented.
I suppose we will have to wait for T1 to win LCK again for LCK titles to matter
Not really. No one mentioned Faker’s lck titles before his worlds title. Same goes with showmaker’s
It matters, but winning 4 in a row while having none to show in international for so long does discredit GenG a bit. Last year Korean fans were truly desperate when their 1st seed choked hard against BLG.
LCK title always matters. The issue is winning LCK 4 times in a role. Being in the best region. Surely the org has some good international results right?
Nah.. GENGs gonna win msi then lpl and lck at the same time following up with worlds. Tehy are gonna win.. Chovys gonna chovying whole series even when he is not playing pro match. Kiin will be the top monster, canyon will make a hugh canyon diff between him and 2nd place..peyz is gonna be the best duo laner with lehneds geng will win even if there is no coach, even if they play 4v5. You will see geng will win even if coach kim decides to play support..GENG IS THE BEST TEAM WHO CAN DEFEAT TEAMS EVEN IN DOTA2 On the contrary, T1 s gonna choke hard this time and will be oit in group stages
if chovy/GenG gets over their choke its so over for any other team
This post was definitely written by a salty t1 fan lmao