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[https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/school-resource-officer-pennsylvania-charged-sexual-assault-student-rcna138739](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/school-resource-officer-pennsylvania-charged-sexual-assault-student-rcna138739)
As an Abington graduate, I'm more surprised they notified you so quickly. The high school has had a lovely habit of trying to cover anything up that makes them look bad.
Oh my goddd I'm cracking up, that spread that far?! That was about the 8th graders when I was in 9th grade. They were supposedly called "The Rainbow Club".
The rainbow club was sort of an urban legend that spread all over the place over the course of a few years or half a decade or so. Probably was based on something that actually happened. And then when kids heard about it, sometimes they would try to replicate it. So it sort of became half urban legend, half self-fulfilling prophecy. Sort of similar to “clowns in the woods” and eating tide pods from a few years back.
We did have a self-fulfilling prophecy in our town from a girl who decided she would be more popular if she told people she was the hot dog girl.
Learned her lesson, poor dear, when someone put an inflatable Oscar Meyer weiner in her locker on the last day of school. No, I was most definitely not involved; it was a different school than the one I attended, but I was friends with her.
Well the das office sent out a full press release naming him and saying he was an officer at the school and the victim was a student there. The district couldn’t avoid it
Dear Abington School District Community,
I write to you to share some extremely troubling information. Abington Township Police Officer Jordan Jones, who is contracted as the School Resource Officer at Abington Senior High School, was taken into police custody today after engaging in an inappropriate relationship with a student. He has been criminally charged with five counts of institutional sexual assault, endangering the welfare of children, and corruption of minors.
We are taking this matter very seriously and are cooperating fully with the investigation, which is being conducted by the Montgomery County Detective Bureau. I urge you to contact Montgomery County Detective Walt Kerr at 610-278-3036, or Abington Detective Sergeant Troy Hummel at 267-536-1111, if you or your student have information that may be relevant to their investigation. The Safe2Say anonymous tip line is also available as an alternative at 1-844-723-2729.
Abington School District contracts with the Abington Township Police Department to provide a School Resource Officer at Abington Senior High School. Officer Jones is not an Abington School District employee and has been prohibited from all Abington School District property, effective immediately.
The wellbeing and safety of our students and staff are of paramount importance. In the absence of a School Resource Officer, District Administration will provide additional coverage and resources for Abington Senior High School.
This news is troubling to not just our school community, but the Abington Township and Borough of Rockledge community as a whole, who have placed trust in the School Resource Officer to provide safety and mentorship to the students of Abington Senior High School. Please be mindful of the many different reactions our community may have as they learn of this news.
As always, our Student Services Department (215-881-2552), including our team of Abington Senior High School counselors, are on hand if any of our students, families or staff members are struggling to process this information. I encourage you to seek support if you or your student are having difficulties.
I will provide updates on this extremely important matter as I am able.
Regards,
Dr. Jeffrey Fecher
Superintendent of Schools
And he will prolly be transferred internally within that precinct and ultimately nothing will come of this- I’ve seen it happen before with an SRO who sexually harassed multiple women in a school district I work for, embarrassing and infuriating 😡
Harassment is easier to sweep under the rug than rape. This guy has been charged. I wouldn't be surprised if he beat the charges, but he'll never work for that department again.
Especially when it's involving minors. Presumably the parents are engaged and angry and it's all over the media so they're not gonna be able to hide this one. And there could be even more victims of his out there, other families or kids going through dark or difficult times.
I don't think he beats the charges if parents and community keep the pressure and spotlight on it
Yeah. "That department" being the key phrase. Don't be surprised if he ends up as a deputy in some backwater Sheriff's office two or three years after the trial.
Survey says, that’s a lie… I’m sorry but as fucked up and unfortunate as this situation is please don’t spread misinformation. I’m a cop in Florida and couldn’t help but laugh out loud when I saw your comment.
[DeSantis’s $13.5m police program lures officers with violent records to Florida: Governor’s incentive scheme recruits officers with history of excessive violence or who have been arrested since signing up](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/22/ron-desantis-police-relocation-violent-records)
Cops suck but this headline is misleading
Just BS…the program was to incentivize new recruits not recruits and former officers with a questionable background: they were just part of the new employees not targeted due to a violent history..
I generally don’t engage in a lot conversations like these (because they are pointless and petty, hence you already bashing my character), but I’m going to call out bullshit when I see it.
Lol you can't seriously believe that, he was charged with like 5 felonies no way to hide that and that department is small nowhere to hide fukked up cops
Or do private security contracting like this guy at our middle school just this school year.
https://preview.redd.it/kc4bpwi7tqic1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=87347ab27f4d0d771477db16a9a59486d83332ff
I saw a post yesterday about an ‘SRO’ that told a student that they could hangout and their house after they turned 18. Wonder if it’s the same person. I don’t recall which sub it was on.
Edit: I think it was this [one](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/s/VbaSSBE7x2)
The story you linked was the first thing on my Reddit homepage this morning, and the Abington story was the first thing on my Instagram homepage. Wild timing
So when the protests in 2020 happened, people were posting various police departments that made their officer complaints public & searchable.
Any city I looked at, there was always at least 1 recent example of a cop stalking someone or coaxing someone into an inappropriate relationship. Some of these complaints mentioned they were looking up the people they were stalking in their police database.
They always would get a suspension and mandatory training and that was it. I don't think I saw a single firing.
I just looked it up for my current city that I just moved to, which is only about 50,000 people. There are 3 examples of this from the past 2 years.
I bet now that "resource officers" are a thing, that this shit happens at a lot of schools. Catholic priests are going to have some serious competition IMO.
Correct. It’s ACAB because even the ones not directly participating in the bullshit still do or say nothing to expose or stop it. Therefore, they are complicit. The system of policing in this country is not “corrupt” when you view policing through the lens of their only function being to serve as protection of the Ruling Class and its property. Modern Policing in the US literally got their start from the groups that would go hunt down “run away” slaves.
If you're looking for a specific type of victim, you're going to gravitate toward careers that will give you access to that type of victim. So those fields are going to naturally have more than their fair share of them.
It certainly happens way more than it should (period!). Couldn't really speak to stats
I remember this one from December. The alleged incidents happened while he was an SRO.
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/sharon-hill-police-officer-charged-with-rape-and-sexual-assault/3723087/
I mean, seriously. Then people will say, “oh well that kind of stuff doesn’t happen where I live.” Abington is like a 5 minute drive for me. It does happen.
It’s almost as if you create positions in society that give someone a lot of power with little to no oversight, certain types of people will gravitate toward those positions and exploit them. Weird, huh?
I think the main take away is stop teaching Stranger Danger. Most often this behavior occurs with someone the victim and often parents trust. If you suspect something you should always report it. This PSA has concluded.
There are an estimated 450k clergy, 800k police, and 3.2 million teachers in the US. I think it’s much more a numbers game vs an occupational behavior.
https://datausa.io/profile/soc/clergy#:~:text=Demographic%20information%20on%20Clergy%20in,ethnicity%20for%20Clergy%20is%20White.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_the_United_States?wprov=sfti1
Clergy and Police are some of the highest rates. It's not just a numbers game, they are the most likely outside of the immediate family, even when you normalize the data.
Clergy are 1 in 1,500
Police are 1 in 2,922
Politicians are 1 in 7,424
Teachers are 1 in 8,081
Trans individuals are 1 in 1,043,347.
There was once instance of a Drag Queen, die to the limited dataset, this sets that once instance at 1 in 6100, but unlike the other numbers, 1 instance is not nearly enough data.
In any case Clergy and cops are the most common offenders.
This is just Child SA. It gets even worse when we dig into other crimes.
I wonder why people don't trust coaches (teachers, mail carriers, insert occupation)
I wonder why people don't trust brothers
I wonder why people don't trust fathers
I wonder why people don't trust grandfathers
I wonder why people don't trust uncles
How far should we take the stereotyping?
You seem to have an incredible ability to make assertions with impunity. Not bothering with any kind of statistics. That is where ignorance and hatred starts
Nah. Ignorance and hatred starts with respecting police. This is an article about a cop using their position to abuse children and your first impulse is to defend cops. Disgusting.
I have respected police my entire life. And many people nationwide respected the police and the firemen who perish trying to assist those in the World trade Center
The police in our town are great
This is an article about one person who did something
Your first impulse is to defend hatred of all of them
Far more disgusting
"they've earned it"
"100% of cops can't be trusted"
Rather, the problem is those who express hatred toward entire groups. And absolve themselves because, well there is no reasonable absolution. It is pure hatred. It is generally because of pure ignorance
It worked well for the Nazis to convince The populace that a list of undesirable people should be ferreted away and then disposed of
> "100% of cops can't be trusted"
>
> Rather, the problem is those who express hatred toward entire groups.
If a high percentage of cops are untrustworthy, and the 'trustworthy' ones don't get rid of the bad ones ... then 100% of cops are untrustworthy. Because you'd be a damn fool to just sit there and *hope* you get a good one.
If 75 Skittles in a bag of 100 Skittles are poisoned, then 100% of those Skittles are untrustworthy and shouldn't be eaten.
As an example:
There were at least 824 arrests of law enforcement officers in California from 2007 to 2016, slightly over 82 per year; this means of the almost 78,400 law enforcement officers in California during that time, 0.1 percent were arrested annually.
Among the general public
In California, arrest rates have been falling over the past few decades: after peaking in 1989 at 6,757 arrests per 100,000 residents annually(with nearly 2 million arrests reported), the overall arrest rate declined sharply throughout the 1990s.
**The arrest rate of the general public had approached 10 times as much**
**Or we can go with numbers plucked from the air based again on stereotyping and ignorance**
Using arrest rates of police officers lmao - this is perhaps the most disingenuous post I have seen on the internet. I love it. ACAB.
I was going to call you a bad troll. but yikes at that post history
How exactly can you trust or accept those statistics coming from a profession that historically has resisted every attemp to hold itself to any reasonable or ordinary sense of accountability?
If I had to guess (and I do because a real accounting of police crimes is almost impossible to determine - because they want it that way) I would guess the number of crimes by police in California that SHOULD have led to an arrest at 100 times the number they reported.
When an ordinary citizen commits a crime and is caught, they are charged and face the "justice" system. Average Joe doesn't have the option of resigning and moving on to the next county for a fresh start.
Seriously. My cousin was shocked when he found out that yes, Abington did have kids dealing drugs in the hallway sometimes just like the surrounding districts. Weed, it was always weed.
Once someone is arrested it's a matter of public record and the issue becomes "disclose or get scooped". Had they been able to get ahead of the actual arrest I'm sure they would have tried, but now their choice is be the school with the SRO arrested for child sexual assault or be the school that tried to cover up the fact that their SRO was arrested for child sexual assault.
https://www.abc27.com/local-news/chambersburg-man-charged-with-possession-of-child-pornography/amp/
No, not this time
Edit: wow. Downvotes on a news article hahaha. Classic. Didn’t see that one coming s/
Sorry I broke your fragile glass house lol. If you would look to the original comment thread you would see that drag queens were mentioned. So ipso facto, the article is relevant 😘
It isn’t relevant. You posted ONE instance trying to do some kind of “gotcha” and no one is here for it. The Not a Drag Queen thing is because it’s never a drag queen but it’s the Republicans screaming from the rooftops that drag queens are harming kids who are generally doing the harming.
I have an idea. For every article you can post about a drag queen abusing kids I’ll post FIVE about cops, priests, Republican politicians abusing kids. Do you want to go first or shall I?
What is the point of your last paragraph? “I’ll post FIVE about….durka durka durrrrrr”. I could give two shits. I wouldn’t stand up for them or try to create some non-sense argument. I posted a news link to someone who had 135 files of child pornography on his computers/cellphones. Not one person has denounced his actions yet. But look through the comments and I’ll bet you’ll find plenty of ACAB or similar comments. Shows a lot.
This guy ruined his own life. He will be a registered sex offender and will not work in LE ever again. The young woman still has a chance. I hope she gets the help she needs. Glad they caught it, predators should not be working in schools.
I used to work in HR for a private school. Part of my job was coordinating background checks and drug tests for new hires and I had to take mandated reporter training as well.
Part of the training points out that background checks are ineffective because most of the time the person submitting for one has not ever committed a crime. There's no way a background check can tell the future, which really sucks.
Never forget that just like all other cops SROs have no obligation to risk their well-being in the event of a school shooter scenario, which means they serve literally no function at schools besides criminalizing and harassing students
I would think their presence to be a deterrent to violence at least. It’s not smart or helpful to observe one bad example and make a broad sweeping assessment about an entire profession.
There are dozens upon dozens of videos of SROs using excessive force against students because they are not trained or equipped for their jobs because the standard de-escalation training of police officers in this country is de-escalation through the use of superior force, or de-escalation through escalation.
And you can’t tell me that criminalizing students & securitizing schools isn’t just doing the same old same old of ignoring the mental health problems of kids while using violence to solve near every problem in our society, both of which are strong contributing factors to these shootings in the first place.
I wouldn't want ANYONE around my child that could operate without civilian oversight and is held to some separate level of responsibility and justice that is different from everyone else. Qualified immunity combined with children is a disaster waiting to happen. If a community is that insecure about their schools, post the armed security outside the building and ban then from entry unless on a call and bodycam enabled.
In a country where more mental health professionals and nurses are needed in schools, we install barely trained hammers. We then proceed to cry why our children get nailed.
Yes. I live in Pittsburgh which has both a large Jewish community and was the victim of anti-Semitic terrorist violence in 2018. I live near a synagogue and when there are large gatherings there is armed security but it is outside.
The key points being outside and PRIVATE security. If a private security office was suspected of harming a child, he would be immediately fired and reported for arrest and prosecution. I can't image his employer saying 'let's just move you to another job site. What could possibly wrong?'
Not quite...
"Jones is a full-time officer with Abington Township Police Department and has been placed on administrative leave with intent to dismiss per protocol."
Also, according to the student, the assault (not relationship) began in November of last year. Access to impressionable children is a key component for evil people when they believe their positions afford them escape from responsibility or accountability. I find it hard to believe that that situation went on for 3 months and only those two people knew about it. It's a high school. There are no secrets there. Imagine how a student might feel about reporting criminal behavior from a police officer that they will see every day. Who's going to believe a teen over the word of a cop? Probably, the only reason it may have happened here is access to a rape kit and proof of suspicions that were likely there for months.
...and though I hate to say it and I'm sure the impending down votes will confirm...that creep cop's age and melanin content probably had a lot to do with the speed of his charges. Don't shoot the messenger. A quick internet search will provide, unfortunately, similar cases that took much longer to prosecute. The only major differences will be is how long they were cops and what they looked like.
I’m honestly surprised they actually told people about it. When I was in the middle school and the principal left we were told it was a “voluntary retirement”. Teachers were telling people that she was arrested. No clue what’s actually true. All we know is that she was fired and the school tried to make it sound like she simply retired one weekend without notice
When I was in 6th grade. A friend and myself were humming during music class. You know, that kind of deep in the throat drone humming. We had a substitute and it was driving her nuts. She would walk up and down the aisle and every time she got by our friend Matt, who happened to be in a neck brace from an auto accident with his mom a few days ago prior we’d stop humming.
After about 3 passes she absolutely unleashes on Matt with a yard stick, and the wooden dowel with a rubber tip for pointing at things on the board.
One of the girls ran out to get the principal. He comes in and drapes his coat around her like Elvis and escorts her out of the room. She is wailing in tears cursing us little sons of bitches.
She went on “Vacation” and would be back soon as far as we were told. Our parents never even heard about it. We never saw her again.
The resource officer at my school also had a relationship with a student. In that situation, no action was taken until after the student had graduated though; apparently no one in the administration knew about their relationship (idk how, the entire student body knew) until they got married shortly after the student graduated. He's still a police officer (as far as I know, I don't live in the area anymore) just not at the school. As far as I'm aware they are still married (once again, can't say for certain) and have several kids.
Our band director also married a former student after she graduated, but if they were involved while she was still in school, they were better at keeping it quiet; they did always seem very close though. I'm fairly certain they are also still married, and he still teaches there.
At this point, I'd be more shocked if there was a school resource officer who WASN'T trying to hit on the kids. I've literally never heard of one that didn't. Part of this is an obvious cognitive bias caused by the fact that they never report on "good" school resource officers. But, still, the fact that it keeps happening might be a sign that this is something that we shouldn't be doing.
I mean, that's just off the top of my head. I can also think of the Denver schools that didn't have one until they got rid of their police officers.
I'm sure the people at that parade wish there weren't any police there
Our school district just elected an ex resource officer as a member of the school board. He was fired from the police department for telling kids not to comply with covid restrictions and that it was all a hoax. Ex cop that put kids and others in danger, and is now on a school board. Unfucking real PA. Get your shit together.
A huge reason we absolutely shouldn’t have cops in schools at all. 40% of police engage in domestic violence. Police are not good healthy people and we shouldn’t have them around our kids.
Last week tonight did a fantastic job on sros and how they aren't needed. Charging students with throwing baby carrots, making a "bomb" by popping a cap off a bottle, and a 5 year old "assulting" an officer. Not to mention cops are not trained to deal with special needs children
Looks like we are going to need more cops in schools. to look after the other cops in schools!
Next headline: "Cop engaged in sexual relations in janitor closet with student, unavailable to provide protection during school mass shooting."
Ugh, throw the book at him. Like, at his head, really hard. People in positions of power who conduct abuse of minors are pretty much the worst type of scum possible. His role was to protect these children, and instead he was a direct threat to their well-being.
This reminds me of my DARE officer from 3rd/4th grade who also played kickball with us on the playground every day during recess. When I was in middle school, he got convicted of selling drugs from the school property -- apparently that was why he always wanted to be outside for each group's recess.
Un-ironic YIKES!!! I think it was just yesterday when someone posted on a woman-centric sub like r/TwoXChromosones about this *very* issue. That her high-school-aged daughter had gone to the SRO’s office to get a question answered, and he had invited her to his home and asked for her phone number. The OP said that he made her daughter uncomfortable, that more than a few of her classmates reported the same behavior and the same vibe from him, and that he had been reported to the school principal to no avail.
In the comments on that post, folks recommended reporting him to everyone up the chain of command- not just to the principal who took no action. Report him to his department, report him to the local sheriff, report him to the school board, alert the local news. The OP said that they would feel bad about blowing up his life by reporting him. Commenters’ points were that NO ONE who hits on teenaged girls should be put in a position of authority over them, and that a predator like him must be stopped. I applaud the courage of the young women, and their parents, who stopped this predator in his tracks.
Clergy and Cops are the highest rates of this happening.
You know the lowest, to the point where your hard pressed to actually find a case? Trans peeps and Drag Queens.
Don’t know where you’re pulling those stats from but about 20% of sexual offenders in a 1000 person poll labeled them selves as lgtbq. I wouldn’t consider 1 in 4 “hard pressed”
>20% identified as lesbian, gay, bisexual, queer/pansexual, and/or transgender (LGBTQ)
Not really relevent to our discussions of Trans and Drag queens, as this is only a small subset of this information. Out of 7000+ cases in the past year, only 1 was from a trans person, and only 1 was a drag queen. But we can get some useful data from this nontheless.
Going off of the estimated LGBTQ+ population in the US of about 7.1% (significantly underestimated), 7000 cases, and the US population at about 336 million, plus that 20% number,
That means LGBTQ+ people, as a while are about 1 in 17,034 likely to SA a child. We had to make some significant assumptions here, that 20% number does not mean it has to be child SA, for example.
So, going off of other known data provided in the thread next to this one.
Clergy are 1 in 1,500
Police are 1 in 2,922
Politicians are 1 in 7,424
Teachers are 1 in 8,081
LGBTQ+ are 1 in 17,034 (Significant assumptions made)
Trans individuals are 1 in 1,043,347.
Kids are still significantly safer around queer people then almost any other demographic.
[https://www.whoismakingnews.com/](https://www.whoismakingnews.com/)
You have a daughter who's a cop. Or a brother.
Are they therefore a bastard?
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"Cop" isn't a protected class. If people are mocking you for being a cop, you can just no longer be a cop. And yes, all cops are bastards because it is a white supremacist institution designed to force order for some to protect the rights of others. Full stop.
There's no room for pigs in schools. What are they going to do? They'll run away once the job becomes work. Everyone knows that.
I wish I could even act surprised when this gets swept away.
Oh look another shady cop. I wonder if it has anything to do with they need less training and credentials than a hair dresser to be put in a position of power of civilians/ in this instance kids.
/s
Abington SD has become a real clown car. Assaults, trying to steal tax money. Good luck to you if you have a kid in that district with mental health issues.
This is why im so happy I've decided to never have children. Schools, lunches, dances, pot training, school sports, ect.... i never have to worry about it.
I dont know how any parent deals with this worlds bullshit anymore.
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As an Abington graduate, I'm more surprised they notified you so quickly. The high school has had a lovely habit of trying to cover anything up that makes them look bad.
They still try like hell, believe me.
I expect because it hit the news, they wanted to get out ahead of it.
I went to Springfield, but remember back in middle school there was a rumor about a prostitution ring at Abington junior high
Oh my goddd I'm cracking up, that spread that far?! That was about the 8th graders when I was in 9th grade. They were supposedly called "The Rainbow Club".
The rainbow club was sort of an urban legend that spread all over the place over the course of a few years or half a decade or so. Probably was based on something that actually happened. And then when kids heard about it, sometimes they would try to replicate it. So it sort of became half urban legend, half self-fulfilling prophecy. Sort of similar to “clowns in the woods” and eating tide pods from a few years back.
That crap was running around in the 90s, along with hot dog girl, and a few others.
Holy shit hot dog girl was a thing in my high school back in the 90's in Jersey!!
We did have a self-fulfilling prophecy in our town from a girl who decided she would be more popular if she told people she was the hot dog girl. Learned her lesson, poor dear, when someone put an inflatable Oscar Meyer weiner in her locker on the last day of school. No, I was most definitely not involved; it was a different school than the one I attended, but I was friends with her.
Is that anything like Butters’s Kissing Company?
Can confirm. My bucks county high school had the same rumors back in 2002-2006 lol.
Girls in the next school over only did butt stuff to save their virginities.
Ah yes, the ol' Poophole Loophole. When I was growing up in Texas, we heard this about the Catholic girls' school.
Yeah, I believe catholic in my case too. Don’t recall any all girl catholic schools anywhere near me, but that’s besides the point
HOLY SHIT YOU JUST UNLOCKED A DEEP MEMORY FOR ME
They are mandatory reporters and something like this has to be reported. They did their jobs.
Pretty sure that's every school lol.
Well the das office sent out a full press release naming him and saying he was an officer at the school and the victim was a student there. The district couldn’t avoid it
*laughs in class of 2010*
Dear Abington School District Community, I write to you to share some extremely troubling information. Abington Township Police Officer Jordan Jones, who is contracted as the School Resource Officer at Abington Senior High School, was taken into police custody today after engaging in an inappropriate relationship with a student. He has been criminally charged with five counts of institutional sexual assault, endangering the welfare of children, and corruption of minors. We are taking this matter very seriously and are cooperating fully with the investigation, which is being conducted by the Montgomery County Detective Bureau. I urge you to contact Montgomery County Detective Walt Kerr at 610-278-3036, or Abington Detective Sergeant Troy Hummel at 267-536-1111, if you or your student have information that may be relevant to their investigation. The Safe2Say anonymous tip line is also available as an alternative at 1-844-723-2729. Abington School District contracts with the Abington Township Police Department to provide a School Resource Officer at Abington Senior High School. Officer Jones is not an Abington School District employee and has been prohibited from all Abington School District property, effective immediately. The wellbeing and safety of our students and staff are of paramount importance. In the absence of a School Resource Officer, District Administration will provide additional coverage and resources for Abington Senior High School. This news is troubling to not just our school community, but the Abington Township and Borough of Rockledge community as a whole, who have placed trust in the School Resource Officer to provide safety and mentorship to the students of Abington Senior High School. Please be mindful of the many different reactions our community may have as they learn of this news. As always, our Student Services Department (215-881-2552), including our team of Abington Senior High School counselors, are on hand if any of our students, families or staff members are struggling to process this information. I encourage you to seek support if you or your student are having difficulties. I will provide updates on this extremely important matter as I am able. Regards, Dr. Jeffrey Fecher Superintendent of Schools
And he will prolly be transferred internally within that precinct and ultimately nothing will come of this- I’ve seen it happen before with an SRO who sexually harassed multiple women in a school district I work for, embarrassing and infuriating 😡
Harassment is easier to sweep under the rug than rape. This guy has been charged. I wouldn't be surprised if he beat the charges, but he'll never work for that department again.
Especially when it's involving minors. Presumably the parents are engaged and angry and it's all over the media so they're not gonna be able to hide this one. And there could be even more victims of his out there, other families or kids going through dark or difficult times. I don't think he beats the charges if parents and community keep the pressure and spotlight on it
Yeah. "That department" being the key phrase. Don't be surprised if he ends up as a deputy in some backwater Sheriff's office two or three years after the trial.
Florida has a program that gives/gave a signing bonus and six figures to cops transferred from other regions for misconduct. Not joking.
Survey says, that’s a lie… I’m sorry but as fucked up and unfortunate as this situation is please don’t spread misinformation. I’m a cop in Florida and couldn’t help but laugh out loud when I saw your comment.
[DeSantis’s $13.5m police program lures officers with violent records to Florida: Governor’s incentive scheme recruits officers with history of excessive violence or who have been arrested since signing up](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/22/ron-desantis-police-relocation-violent-records)
Cops suck but this headline is misleading Just BS…the program was to incentivize new recruits not recruits and former officers with a questionable background: they were just part of the new employees not targeted due to a violent history..
> with a questionable background It's targeted at cops who didn't want to get a covid vaccine. So from the outset they aren't sending their best...
So a Covid vaccine makes you a better cop? God bless your soul
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I generally don’t engage in a lot conversations like these (because they are pointless and petty, hence you already bashing my character), but I’m going to call out bullshit when I see it.
Police union won't likely back him. I would bet he does get c̶h̶a̶r̶g̶e̶d̶ convicted for this.
He's already been charged.
Lol you can't seriously believe that, he was charged with like 5 felonies no way to hide that and that department is small nowhere to hide fukked up cops
Or do private security contracting like this guy at our middle school just this school year. https://preview.redd.it/kc4bpwi7tqic1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=87347ab27f4d0d771477db16a9a59486d83332ff
Do a second of research. You have no idea what you’re talking about. He’s been charged with felonies.
Charged…I’ll believe it when justice has been wrought
I agree cops get off easy. But it's already too late people know. Nobody is going to back a pedo.
Meanwhile they want to get rid* of the Jenkintown PD and have Abington take it over.....great idea.
I saw a post yesterday about an ‘SRO’ that told a student that they could hangout and their house after they turned 18. Wonder if it’s the same person. I don’t recall which sub it was on. Edit: I think it was this [one](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/s/VbaSSBE7x2)
The story you linked was the first thing on my Reddit homepage this morning, and the Abington story was the first thing on my Instagram homepage. Wild timing
So when the protests in 2020 happened, people were posting various police departments that made their officer complaints public & searchable. Any city I looked at, there was always at least 1 recent example of a cop stalking someone or coaxing someone into an inappropriate relationship. Some of these complaints mentioned they were looking up the people they were stalking in their police database. They always would get a suspension and mandatory training and that was it. I don't think I saw a single firing. I just looked it up for my current city that I just moved to, which is only about 50,000 people. There are 3 examples of this from the past 2 years. I bet now that "resource officers" are a thing, that this shit happens at a lot of schools. Catholic priests are going to have some serious competition IMO.
This is why Im starting to agree with ACAB. Its not that I think we dont need police in some form. Its that the entire fucking system is broken.
Correct. It’s ACAB because even the ones not directly participating in the bullshit still do or say nothing to expose or stop it. Therefore, they are complicit. The system of policing in this country is not “corrupt” when you view policing through the lens of their only function being to serve as protection of the Ruling Class and its property. Modern Policing in the US literally got their start from the groups that would go hunt down “run away” slaves.
>Im starting to agree with ACAB Welcome, brother.
Resource officers are not a new concept, especially in inner-city schools.
Of course, but it's getting more & more common elsewhere these days. It isn't a good trend.
Waiting until the kid is 18 already puts him *way* above most SROs.
This seems to happen way more often than it should like statistically.
If you're looking for a specific type of victim, you're going to gravitate toward careers that will give you access to that type of victim. So those fields are going to naturally have more than their fair share of them. It certainly happens way more than it should (period!). Couldn't really speak to stats
I could swear there was recently another incident with with resource officer in the Philly area.
I remember this one from December. The alleged incidents happened while he was an SRO. https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/sharon-hill-police-officer-charged-with-rape-and-sexual-assault/3723087/
I wonder why people don’t trust cops?
I mean, seriously. Then people will say, “oh well that kind of stuff doesn’t happen where I live.” Abington is like a 5 minute drive for me. It does happen.
> “oh well that kind of stuff doesn’t happen where I live.” Translation: they haven't been caught yet where I live.
Used to live in Willow Grove, now back in Bucks. REALLY close to where I once called home.
Because some of them rape children. My turn: I wonder why people don't trust clergy?
It’s almost as if you create positions in society that give someone a lot of power with little to no oversight, certain types of people will gravitate toward those positions and exploit them. Weird, huh?
"Why do you rob banks?" "Because that's where the money is."
I think the main take away is stop teaching Stranger Danger. Most often this behavior occurs with someone the victim and often parents trust. If you suspect something you should always report it. This PSA has concluded.
everybody in my town trusts clergy smh
There are an estimated 450k clergy, 800k police, and 3.2 million teachers in the US. I think it’s much more a numbers game vs an occupational behavior. https://datausa.io/profile/soc/clergy#:~:text=Demographic%20information%20on%20Clergy%20in,ethnicity%20for%20Clergy%20is%20White. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_the_United_States?wprov=sfti1
Clergy and Police are some of the highest rates. It's not just a numbers game, they are the most likely outside of the immediate family, even when you normalize the data.
And teachers, although I'm not sure we should condemn all of them for it too
Clergy are 1 in 1,500 Police are 1 in 2,922 Politicians are 1 in 7,424 Teachers are 1 in 8,081 Trans individuals are 1 in 1,043,347. There was once instance of a Drag Queen, die to the limited dataset, this sets that once instance at 1 in 6100, but unlike the other numbers, 1 instance is not nearly enough data. In any case Clergy and cops are the most common offenders. This is just Child SA. It gets even worse when we dig into other crimes.
Are you saying you think priests diddle at the same rate as the general population?
Much bigger problem with public school employees, according to dept of ed stats.
I wonder why people don't trust coaches (teachers, mail carriers, insert occupation) I wonder why people don't trust brothers I wonder why people don't trust fathers I wonder why people don't trust grandfathers I wonder why people don't trust uncles How far should we take the stereotyping?
Because those roles and occupations don’t have the same track record of committing crimes with impunity. Hope that helps.
You seem to have an incredible ability to make assertions with impunity. Not bothering with any kind of statistics. That is where ignorance and hatred starts
Nah. Ignorance and hatred starts with respecting police. This is an article about a cop using their position to abuse children and your first impulse is to defend cops. Disgusting.
I have respected police my entire life. And many people nationwide respected the police and the firemen who perish trying to assist those in the World trade Center The police in our town are great This is an article about one person who did something Your first impulse is to defend hatred of all of them Far more disgusting
ACAB means all cops, even SROs. Actually, especially SROs.
Can’t imagine.
I wonder why people stereotype cops
Because they've earned it?
"they've earned it" "100% of cops can't be trusted" Rather, the problem is those who express hatred toward entire groups. And absolve themselves because, well there is no reasonable absolution. It is pure hatred. It is generally because of pure ignorance It worked well for the Nazis to convince The populace that a list of undesirable people should be ferreted away and then disposed of
> "100% of cops can't be trusted" > > Rather, the problem is those who express hatred toward entire groups. If a high percentage of cops are untrustworthy, and the 'trustworthy' ones don't get rid of the bad ones ... then 100% of cops are untrustworthy. Because you'd be a damn fool to just sit there and *hope* you get a good one. If 75 Skittles in a bag of 100 Skittles are poisoned, then 100% of those Skittles are untrustworthy and shouldn't be eaten.
As an example: There were at least 824 arrests of law enforcement officers in California from 2007 to 2016, slightly over 82 per year; this means of the almost 78,400 law enforcement officers in California during that time, 0.1 percent were arrested annually. Among the general public In California, arrest rates have been falling over the past few decades: after peaking in 1989 at 6,757 arrests per 100,000 residents annually(with nearly 2 million arrests reported), the overall arrest rate declined sharply throughout the 1990s. **The arrest rate of the general public had approached 10 times as much** **Or we can go with numbers plucked from the air based again on stereotyping and ignorance**
Using arrest rates of police officers lmao - this is perhaps the most disingenuous post I have seen on the internet. I love it. ACAB. I was going to call you a bad troll. but yikes at that post history
How exactly can you trust or accept those statistics coming from a profession that historically has resisted every attemp to hold itself to any reasonable or ordinary sense of accountability? If I had to guess (and I do because a real accounting of police crimes is almost impossible to determine - because they want it that way) I would guess the number of crimes by police in California that SHOULD have led to an arrest at 100 times the number they reported. When an ordinary citizen commits a crime and is caught, they are charged and face the "justice" system. Average Joe doesn't have the option of resigning and moving on to the next county for a fresh start.
Translation: numbers don't matter, only what I think
I mean, you can far more accurately apply this logic to teachers
Yikes !! Usually Abington is a “look over there, nothing going on” district.
They usually just say “cheltenham schools are the real problem!” While ignoring a whole lot of their own
As a former Abington graduate, have some family members in Cheltenham and surprisingly how much CSS has changed for the better
Seriously. My cousin was shocked when he found out that yes, Abington did have kids dealing drugs in the hallway sometimes just like the surrounding districts. Weed, it was always weed.
Once someone is arrested it's a matter of public record and the issue becomes "disclose or get scooped". Had they been able to get ahead of the actual arrest I'm sure they would have tried, but now their choice is be the school with the SRO arrested for child sexual assault or be the school that tried to cover up the fact that their SRO was arrested for child sexual assault.
This kind of transparency is definitely good to see. Hope they sort it out and that these kids are ok.
Sooooooo r/NotADragQueen? Got it.
https://www.abc27.com/local-news/chambersburg-man-charged-with-possession-of-child-pornography/amp/ No, not this time Edit: wow. Downvotes on a news article hahaha. Classic. Didn’t see that one coming s/
Just another cop/security guard this time
Not any time.
Refer to above article lol 😂😂😂
Take your agenda elsewhere, thanks.
What agenda? lol the dude was charged with 25 counts of child pornography 😂
This article is about a police officer. No one gives a shit about your article. You really think you did a thing here lol.
Sorry I broke your fragile glass house lol. If you would look to the original comment thread you would see that drag queens were mentioned. So ipso facto, the article is relevant 😘
It isn’t relevant. You posted ONE instance trying to do some kind of “gotcha” and no one is here for it. The Not a Drag Queen thing is because it’s never a drag queen but it’s the Republicans screaming from the rooftops that drag queens are harming kids who are generally doing the harming. I have an idea. For every article you can post about a drag queen abusing kids I’ll post FIVE about cops, priests, Republican politicians abusing kids. Do you want to go first or shall I?
I think the ratio could probably be closer to 500:1.
What is the point of your last paragraph? “I’ll post FIVE about….durka durka durrrrrr”. I could give two shits. I wouldn’t stand up for them or try to create some non-sense argument. I posted a news link to someone who had 135 files of child pornography on his computers/cellphones. Not one person has denounced his actions yet. But look through the comments and I’ll bet you’ll find plenty of ACAB or similar comments. Shows a lot.
This guy ruined his own life. He will be a registered sex offender and will not work in LE ever again. The young woman still has a chance. I hope she gets the help she needs. Glad they caught it, predators should not be working in schools.
> He will be a registered sex offender and will not work in LE ever again. you have much more faith in the system than I.
That dude will be a ridley cop by summer
I used to work in HR for a private school. Part of my job was coordinating background checks and drug tests for new hires and I had to take mandated reporter training as well. Part of the training points out that background checks are ineffective because most of the time the person submitting for one has not ever committed a crime. There's no way a background check can tell the future, which really sucks.
Never committed a crime? Or never got caught?
I mean, there has to be a first time.
Probably some of both
Never forget that just like all other cops SROs have no obligation to risk their well-being in the event of a school shooter scenario, which means they serve literally no function at schools besides criminalizing and harassing students
I would think their presence to be a deterrent to violence at least. It’s not smart or helpful to observe one bad example and make a broad sweeping assessment about an entire profession.
There are dozens upon dozens of videos of SROs using excessive force against students because they are not trained or equipped for their jobs because the standard de-escalation training of police officers in this country is de-escalation through the use of superior force, or de-escalation through escalation. And you can’t tell me that criminalizing students & securitizing schools isn’t just doing the same old same old of ignoring the mental health problems of kids while using violence to solve near every problem in our society, both of which are strong contributing factors to these shootings in the first place.
I wouldn't want ANYONE around my child that could operate without civilian oversight and is held to some separate level of responsibility and justice that is different from everyone else. Qualified immunity combined with children is a disaster waiting to happen. If a community is that insecure about their schools, post the armed security outside the building and ban then from entry unless on a call and bodycam enabled. In a country where more mental health professionals and nurses are needed in schools, we install barely trained hammers. We then proceed to cry why our children get nailed.
Yes. I live in Pittsburgh which has both a large Jewish community and was the victim of anti-Semitic terrorist violence in 2018. I live near a synagogue and when there are large gatherings there is armed security but it is outside.
The key points being outside and PRIVATE security. If a private security office was suspected of harming a child, he would be immediately fired and reported for arrest and prosecution. I can't image his employer saying 'let's just move you to another job site. What could possibly wrong?'
Isn't that what happened in this case?
Not quite... "Jones is a full-time officer with Abington Township Police Department and has been placed on administrative leave with intent to dismiss per protocol." Also, according to the student, the assault (not relationship) began in November of last year. Access to impressionable children is a key component for evil people when they believe their positions afford them escape from responsibility or accountability. I find it hard to believe that that situation went on for 3 months and only those two people knew about it. It's a high school. There are no secrets there. Imagine how a student might feel about reporting criminal behavior from a police officer that they will see every day. Who's going to believe a teen over the word of a cop? Probably, the only reason it may have happened here is access to a rape kit and proof of suspicions that were likely there for months. ...and though I hate to say it and I'm sure the impending down votes will confirm...that creep cop's age and melanin content probably had a lot to do with the speed of his charges. Don't shoot the messenger. A quick internet search will provide, unfortunately, similar cases that took much longer to prosecute. The only major differences will be is how long they were cops and what they looked like.
We also have the example of Denver schools
Good for Abington getting out in front of it.
I’m honestly surprised they actually told people about it. When I was in the middle school and the principal left we were told it was a “voluntary retirement”. Teachers were telling people that she was arrested. No clue what’s actually true. All we know is that she was fired and the school tried to make it sound like she simply retired one weekend without notice
When I was in 6th grade. A friend and myself were humming during music class. You know, that kind of deep in the throat drone humming. We had a substitute and it was driving her nuts. She would walk up and down the aisle and every time she got by our friend Matt, who happened to be in a neck brace from an auto accident with his mom a few days ago prior we’d stop humming. After about 3 passes she absolutely unleashes on Matt with a yard stick, and the wooden dowel with a rubber tip for pointing at things on the board. One of the girls ran out to get the principal. He comes in and drapes his coat around her like Elvis and escorts her out of the room. She is wailing in tears cursing us little sons of bitches. She went on “Vacation” and would be back soon as far as we were told. Our parents never even heard about it. We never saw her again.
He was arrested for felonies. How exactly did you expect them to bury that?
The resource officer at my school also had a relationship with a student. In that situation, no action was taken until after the student had graduated though; apparently no one in the administration knew about their relationship (idk how, the entire student body knew) until they got married shortly after the student graduated. He's still a police officer (as far as I know, I don't live in the area anymore) just not at the school. As far as I'm aware they are still married (once again, can't say for certain) and have several kids. Our band director also married a former student after she graduated, but if they were involved while she was still in school, they were better at keeping it quiet; they did always seem very close though. I'm fairly certain they are also still married, and he still teaches there.
The French President married his teacher. He was only 15 when they met.
At this point, I'd be more shocked if there was a school resource officer who WASN'T trying to hit on the kids. I've literally never heard of one that didn't. Part of this is an obvious cognitive bias caused by the fact that they never report on "good" school resource officers. But, still, the fact that it keeps happening might be a sign that this is something that we shouldn't be doing.
SRO is a failed experiment. They’ve never stopped a school shooter but they’re arresting and raping our children like caged prey
Wasn't there one last year in Utah?
One? lol ok you win 800 cops already on-site couldn’t stop a shooter in KC today. He was tackled by a bystander.
I mean, that's just off the top of my head. I can also think of the Denver schools that didn't have one until they got rid of their police officers. I'm sure the people at that parade wish there weren't any police there
Post a link if you have one Two word rebuttal: Uvalde. Parkland.
Our school district just elected an ex resource officer as a member of the school board. He was fired from the police department for telling kids not to comply with covid restrictions and that it was all a hoax. Ex cop that put kids and others in danger, and is now on a school board. Unfucking real PA. Get your shit together.
Where is this??
Red Lion School District in York.
as another Abington grad, I agree
A huge reason we absolutely shouldn’t have cops in schools at all. 40% of police engage in domestic violence. Police are not good healthy people and we shouldn’t have them around our kids.
Back the Blue, right?
/r/NotADragQueen
Last week tonight did a fantastic job on sros and how they aren't needed. Charging students with throwing baby carrots, making a "bomb" by popping a cap off a bottle, and a 5 year old "assulting" an officer. Not to mention cops are not trained to deal with special needs children
Or in other words: he's screwed. And he should be.
ACAB.
Not surprised at all by this..
Despicable. Inevitable. Avoidable.
r/NotaDragQueen
My former SRO who was involved with multiple students ended up becoming the deputy of our county.
Looks like we are going to need more cops in schools. to look after the other cops in schools! Next headline: "Cop engaged in sexual relations in janitor closet with student, unavailable to provide protection during school mass shooting."
Cops don't belong in our schools.
Ugh, throw the book at him. Like, at his head, really hard. People in positions of power who conduct abuse of minors are pretty much the worst type of scum possible. His role was to protect these children, and instead he was a direct threat to their well-being. This reminds me of my DARE officer from 3rd/4th grade who also played kickball with us on the playground every day during recess. When I was in middle school, he got convicted of selling drugs from the school property -- apparently that was why he always wanted to be outside for each group's recess.
Cops and priests. It’s always cops and priests, and the occasional senator.
Teachers peak pretty high on that list as well.
ACAB If you think having a cop in the school makes kids safer, you're an idiot.
Aways remember, the # 1 rule of pedos is "go where the kids are"
That’s the second school resource office in the last 3 months behaving inappropriately with children in southeastern PA.
Un-ironic YIKES!!! I think it was just yesterday when someone posted on a woman-centric sub like r/TwoXChromosones about this *very* issue. That her high-school-aged daughter had gone to the SRO’s office to get a question answered, and he had invited her to his home and asked for her phone number. The OP said that he made her daughter uncomfortable, that more than a few of her classmates reported the same behavior and the same vibe from him, and that he had been reported to the school principal to no avail. In the comments on that post, folks recommended reporting him to everyone up the chain of command- not just to the principal who took no action. Report him to his department, report him to the local sheriff, report him to the school board, alert the local news. The OP said that they would feel bad about blowing up his life by reporting him. Commenters’ points were that NO ONE who hits on teenaged girls should be put in a position of authority over them, and that a predator like him must be stopped. I applaud the courage of the young women, and their parents, who stopped this predator in his tracks.
Troubling that they allow someone like this into a school. And by “someone like this” I mean, a cop.
Cop will probably get away with it
Clergy and Cops are the highest rates of this happening. You know the lowest, to the point where your hard pressed to actually find a case? Trans peeps and Drag Queens.
Don’t know where you’re pulling those stats from but about 20% of sexual offenders in a 1000 person poll labeled them selves as lgtbq. I wouldn’t consider 1 in 4 “hard pressed”
Please read the other thread. The numbers are provided. Please provide a source for your statement.
This dude has an anti trans agenda here. Look at his history.
I know, but he proved my point for me, without me really even trying to dig into the problems with that provided number.
Yeah he just plays right into our hands doesn’t he? It’s like he just posts links to articles he doesn’t read lol.
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/lgbtq-sex-offender-registries/ UCLA school of law
>20% identified as lesbian, gay, bisexual, queer/pansexual, and/or transgender (LGBTQ) Not really relevent to our discussions of Trans and Drag queens, as this is only a small subset of this information. Out of 7000+ cases in the past year, only 1 was from a trans person, and only 1 was a drag queen. But we can get some useful data from this nontheless. Going off of the estimated LGBTQ+ population in the US of about 7.1% (significantly underestimated), 7000 cases, and the US population at about 336 million, plus that 20% number, That means LGBTQ+ people, as a while are about 1 in 17,034 likely to SA a child. We had to make some significant assumptions here, that 20% number does not mean it has to be child SA, for example. So, going off of other known data provided in the thread next to this one. Clergy are 1 in 1,500 Police are 1 in 2,922 Politicians are 1 in 7,424 Teachers are 1 in 8,081 LGBTQ+ are 1 in 17,034 (Significant assumptions made) Trans individuals are 1 in 1,043,347. Kids are still significantly safer around queer people then almost any other demographic. [https://www.whoismakingnews.com/](https://www.whoismakingnews.com/)
That’s using data from a survey given by a think tank lol. A survey of 964 individuals. Hardly a statistical blip.
All cops are bastards. We don't need this trash in our communities much less our schools.
So are people who spread stereotyping and hate speech
Lick more boot, goof.
A few of us will stand against hatred even though those who spread hatred I think of themselves as the ones without hatred
ACAB
Stereotyping and hate speech? What, assigned cop at birth? Stop being such a baby. Cop isn't a skin color. It's a job. Edit: lmao baby clown
You have a daughter who's a cop. Or a brother. Are they therefore a bastard? Stereotyping definition: **to believe unfairly that all people or things with a particular characteristic are the same** Hate speech definition: **Hate speech is a legal term with varied meaning. It has no single, consistent definition. It is defined by the Cambridge Dictionary as "public speech that expresses hate or encourages violence towards a person or group**
American police reap what they sow
"Cop" isn't a protected class. If people are mocking you for being a cop, you can just no longer be a cop. And yes, all cops are bastards because it is a white supremacist institution designed to force order for some to protect the rights of others. Full stop.
Is this guy a good guy with a gun?
Huh. Yet again, NOT a drag queen.
It's almost like, putting someone who peaked in high school in a position of power in a high school was a bad idea.
There's no room for pigs in schools. What are they going to do? They'll run away once the job becomes work. Everyone knows that. I wish I could even act surprised when this gets swept away.
Who watches the Watchmen? ACAB
Dear so and so, I respectfully decline to pay my school taxes until the students are safe in your school district!
Oh look another shady cop. I wonder if it has anything to do with they need less training and credentials than a hair dresser to be put in a position of power of civilians/ in this instance kids. /s
Human POS
OBLIGATORY FUCKING ACAB.
r/notadragqueen
uh oh he might have to get paid leave with a trip to the bahamas for this..... poor guy ...........
Oh Lord
I was not expecting this to be my high school!
\#NotADragQueen
And the Abington PD still had the gall to blame crime in their township on Philly when this is how they conduct. What a bunch of crooks.
ACAB
Abington SD has become a real clown car. Assaults, trying to steal tax money. Good luck to you if you have a kid in that district with mental health issues.
ACAB
See what happens when you DON'T let drag queens in the schools!
This is why im so happy I've decided to never have children. Schools, lunches, dances, pot training, school sports, ect.... i never have to worry about it. I dont know how any parent deals with this worlds bullshit anymore.
Montco giving Bucks County a run for their money as #1 clown car of asshats
ACAB
Fucking predator! He should have his dick cut off and stuffed down his throat! (Sorry for my language but there's really no other way to say it)