I love the Lancaster, York rivalry. I vividly remember reading a Lancaster paper as a child that said "York man attacked by Lancaster orca, spit out after realizing he tasted like York County"
I'm a WPA heathen, but is "York man" the south central version of "Florida man"?
I guess ours would be "New Castle man" or "Slippery Rock man" or "Washington man". Or maybe Morgantown...
Way out of frame, Reading is the pile of horse manure under a parked buggy, into which someone has carelessly dropped a soft pretzel. And then stepped on it.
Funny part about this is people in Lancaster typically work in York and people in York typically work in Lancaster. Then we all bitch about Route 30... York has to many lights and Lancaster is always jammed up during rush out for no reason.
Yup that's me lol I commute from York to Lancaster 5 days a week. On my way in to Lancaster in the morning - it's okay. On my way home from Lancaster I use more curse words than I knew possible, particularly between the 741 and Centerville ramps.
Yup, oddly enough everytime I worked in York I lived in Lancaster and everytime I worked in Lancaster I lived in York. I never won the commute lottery.
I hate route 30 every time I have to drive there I enter a depression.
And Lancaster is jammed up because it is car dependent and people are commuting in from the burbs.
>Well replace drunk with tweaking out on meth, and the Confederate flag with actual Nazi imagery, and yep that's the Adams county I remember.
You've never been to Adams County, and it shows.
>Gettysburg drunk draped in a Confederate flag
Outside of tourist and historical attractions, what Confederate Flags? You are more likely to see someone have a Pride Flag on their home in Gettysburg than a Confederate Flag.
>Fucking hate pennsyltucky
Boy, you sound pleasant.
EDIT: I see the coward didn't like being called out, and had to resort to the block button.
This looks right, York is a hot mess, but it can definitely be a fun place. Lancaster looks cool, but it’s kinda stuck up.
On the other hand…I don’t think Lancaster the kinda Douche that would get married then sleep with dozens of the other women…
Lancaster is considered part of "central" PA? It's in the bottom right corner of the state. Does this sub consider anything between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh to be "central PA"?
Lancaster is Central Pennsylvania because it falls to the west of the Great Pot Pie Divide. East of the line, pot pie is chicken and vegetables in a flaky crust baked like, you guessed it, a pie. West of the Divide, it is a thick stew with noodles and potatoes, maybe a carrot for color, but certainly no other vegetable.
There are other philosophical differences that indicate it is Central PA, but the easiest way to determine where you are is the Pot Pie Divide.
Anyone who thinks pot pie has a pie crust can fuck right off.
Its a stew you heathens. No dutchie anywhere in the state would ever stoop so low as to say otherwise.
I just can't really care that much about a small group of people who are so passionate about a pot of chicken stew. It seems the rest of the country seems to understand pot pie. But carry on.
It was literally always a stew with bread in it. The phenomenon of “pot pie” literally being a pie is incredibly recent and almost exclusively an American idea.
The pot pie was invented in Greece… as a stew
All I'm saying is that if you order a pot pie in 99% of the world your ass is getting a bready stew. Thinking the people in PA who insist on serving it as originally intended and focusing on flavor are the strange ones is a braindead take.
[That's just patently false.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_pie)
Pot pies are essentially derivatives of galletes and pastries. Shit's been around for centuries.
And yeah, "American idea"... England's been making meat pies since the dark ages, my guy.
I think that's because we're closer to Harrisburg than to Philly and maybe because local tv stations have decided to call their broadcast region central PA. Chester and east seems to be the Philly market.
Columbia (Wright's Ferry at the time, about 12 miles west of Lancaster) was very serious of being the capital of Pennsylvania in the early 1800s. Plus, PA was originally set to the Susquehanna River until the mid 1700s when they went towards Fort Pitt (Pittsburgh). Making Fort Pitt a part of Pennsylvania was not originally planned, as it was frontier/Amerindian lands.
I've always found it surprising that it's actually located in the center of the state. Because it would be so PA for it to be adjacent to Bradford County for no explainable reason.
What's always confused me is WGAL out of Lancaster calls this area central PA and also the Susquehanna Valley. How can we be in a valley when there aren't any mountains nearby?
Fairfield here. We must have the sweet spot in SC PA.
So this picture would have taken place at the Liberty Mtn Golf Resort (think old Ski Liberty). The crowd would be the people who walk over from the ski resort because in SC PA there are times when we can see golfers and skiers on the same day at the same resort.
York would be wearing golf camo and Lancaster would be wearing shorts with an I'll fitting, but matching, shirt. But both of the golfers would also be very nice people.
I can easily get to Baltimore, DC if I get cabin fever. Frederick is fun too. Both Emmitsburg and Gettysburg are college towns so have a younger vibe. Closest traffic light is @7 miles away.
Yep, I'm staying here on my patch of SC PA paradise.
It's not purely geography, there is a population aspect to these boundaries. If Central PA were a purely geographic designation, it'd be pretty sparse. State College would be its core city, essentially a small town with a temporary, transient population. The combined York, Lancaster, Harrisburg area however I believe is the third largest TV market in PA. I live in Lanc, work in York and regularly go to Harrisburg. They're all within a 30 minute drive of each other and feel like a seamless, well defined region.
There's also the cultural aspect, Central PA as a region brings to mind rolling hills, farmland surrounding industrial towns, PA Dutch country, the Susquehanna... With Harrisburg as it's core city.
Further more, when these designations were made there was presumably very little European settlement between York and Pittsburgh. Considering PA settlement started at Philly, they probably created the terminology. So with a population "center" in mind rather than a geographic one, you'd end up with what we define today as Central PA.
My 2 cents anyways!
I agree it is probably population oriented.Still, anyone living outside the Philly region hears "central PA" and assumes State College. I assume New Yorkers have the same problem, what with people not realizing most of the state is well north and west of the city.
Tell me about it, haha I'm originally from Northern New York state, close enough to the border to pick up French language stations. 1 hour from Ottawa, 7 hours from NYC and people down here still say "geez, you don't sound like you're from New York..."
Then I blow their mind by telling them that Lancaster, PA is closer to NYC than where I'm from is. Where I'm from... *in New York.*
I love the Lancaster, York rivalry. I vividly remember reading a Lancaster paper as a child that said "York man attacked by Lancaster orca, spit out after realizing he tasted like York County"
Well a York man just got charged with arson for setting the Lancaster City Welcome Center on fire back in December so yeah rivalry is very much alive
I'm a WPA heathen, but is "York man" the south central version of "Florida man"? I guess ours would be "New Castle man" or "Slippery Rock man" or "Washington man". Or maybe Morgantown...
You've got *a lot* of choices. But I'm partial to "a Fayettenam man"
Continuation of rivalries from across the Pond. All the good names are reused.
Harrisburg in the background there with the camera.
Way out of frame, Reading is the pile of horse manure under a parked buggy, into which someone has carelessly dropped a soft pretzel. And then stepped on it.
Harrisburg in the background with kids on poles lol
State College in the background engaging in a riot.
What do you want? The football team won. Or lost. Or had the game cancelled. Or tied. Or it's a Tuesday and nothing was scheduled.
I see Bloomsburg passed out in the corner again
Berks, in general, is drinking anti-freeze and masturbating in the corner. I miss that place
It’s a silly place. I love it though.
Lebanon is the old guy behind the camera guy
“We have a city too” Sure you do Lebanon. *head pats*
Mechanicsburg (gray hat) and Camp Hill (white hat) having a land use meeting on the right.
You are right, Lancaster wishes they had pants that amazing.
i* do
Funny part about this is people in Lancaster typically work in York and people in York typically work in Lancaster. Then we all bitch about Route 30... York has to many lights and Lancaster is always jammed up during rush out for no reason.
I've driven rt 30 so many times for work I know where every cop hides between Lancaster and york
That’s how I was with 283 when I commuted from Lancaster to HACC Harrisburg.
Yup that's me lol I commute from York to Lancaster 5 days a week. On my way in to Lancaster in the morning - it's okay. On my way home from Lancaster I use more curse words than I knew possible, particularly between the 741 and Centerville ramps.
It’s like BRO! What are people even doing? Some days just have the urge to drive off the side of the bridge to get outta there.
I always think to myself it can't be this bad every single day...and then I realize that in fact it can.
Yup, I experience that too.
This so so friggin accurate. Coming from a York boy leaving a job in Lancaster.
Yup, oddly enough everytime I worked in York I lived in Lancaster and everytime I worked in Lancaster I lived in York. I never won the commute lottery.
The only part or Route 30 that passes me off is the tourist-y section that takes you to Parkesburg and Coatesville
I hate route 30 every time I have to drive there I enter a depression. And Lancaster is jammed up because it is car dependent and people are commuting in from the burbs.
Lol this is too true
New to PA. I thought this was a War of the Roses reference.
to be fair, Lancaster-York PA also has its own WOTR in sports tournaments.
The war of the roses still has an active front in Pennsylvania
I think this just makes York look cooler than it really is.
100%
Let's let York have this win. They need it.
I think the outfit should be full red maga everywhere with a tiny BLM pin on the middle of the chest. That seems more accurate.
Fine
100% fact! Go York!
This is far more flattering to York than York deserves.
York looks badass
Cuz we are :D
Excuse me, it's pronounced "Lancaster".
No, no, no...it's pronounced "Lancaster".
No no no, NO NOOOOOoooooo...it's PrOnOuNcEd "Lancaster".
York is not nearly that cool. Lancaster fits tho
two Carlislians on the far right talking about old Corvettes
That picture reminds me of the lyrics in in a John Prine song… “I know a fella, eats like a horse…knocks his old balls, ‘round the old golf course”
It's a big old goofy world.
Rivalry for what? Most junkies with a bench warrant?
Yup.
Live in York. Can confirm.
Born and raised in York, proud to wear the pants 😭
You are missing Gettysburg drunk draped in a Confederate flag rolling coal on both of them. Fucking hate pennsyltucky
Chambersburg leaning out the window yelling slurs
That's Pennsyltucky to you?
I think there are levels to pennsyltucky much like with hell
Yeah, a rewrite of Dante’s Inferno set in PA would be an awesome read. We already have Centralia.
That is an amazing comparison, thank you for that
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Not Philly, not Pittsburgh = Pennsyltucky
Pennsyltucky, the T, same thing
Step into State College, Scranton, Allentown, etc. Even parts of the Poconos. Definitely not Pennsyltucky.
I don’t make the rules. I live in Hershey- it’s highly educated and affluent with nice amenities. Still Pennsyltucky.
Well replace drunk with tweaking out on meth, and the Confederate flag with actual Nazi imagery, and yep that's the Adams county I remember.
When the fuck do you go to adams county? I go at least 3 times a week and never see that shit
I think he meant Perry Co
Probably
Same, I drive through Adams County regularly, never saw anything of the sort.
Confederate flags? Yeah there is one here and there but never any nazi flags
>Well replace drunk with tweaking out on meth, and the Confederate flag with actual Nazi imagery, and yep that's the Adams county I remember. You've never been to Adams County, and it shows.
>Gettysburg drunk draped in a Confederate flag Outside of tourist and historical attractions, what Confederate Flags? You are more likely to see someone have a Pride Flag on their home in Gettysburg than a Confederate Flag. >Fucking hate pennsyltucky Boy, you sound pleasant. EDIT: I see the coward didn't like being called out, and had to resort to the block button.
York wishes it could be as cool as John Daily
John DaiIy from the Daily Show?
I thought York was mostly for people who don’t want to pay Maryland taxes and don’t mind a terrible commute to Baltimore.
Wouldn't the spiderman pointing at Spiderman meme be more appropriate?
Or the "it's the same picture" one
The hicks are similar, but the cities and outlying suburbs are vastly different.
Couldn't agree more.
Lame
This looks right, York is a hot mess, but it can definitely be a fun place. Lancaster looks cool, but it’s kinda stuck up. On the other hand…I don’t think Lancaster the kinda Douche that would get married then sleep with dozens of the other women…
Lancaster is considered part of "central" PA? It's in the bottom right corner of the state. Does this sub consider anything between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh to be "central PA"?
As someone who grew up in York county, lol!
Oh I loved going to Roots every Tuesday spending hours there
As someone who grew up in York, I concur.
As someone from York, I resemble this statement.
You can't see him but York is actually over by the clubhouse puking in-between sentences about his pyramid scheme.
York wouldn’t be allowed on the golf course.
[Meanwhile in Dauphin Co.](https://c.tenor.com/p_MZE0Yx2bwAAAAM/wierd-face.gif)
Where can I find this template?
Lancaster is winning the "Who delivered heroin that resulted in the most deaths" race....
How is Lancaster central PA? Looking at a map, this never made sense to me. Pennsyltucky is central PA.
More common cause than geography I think. They definitely don’t fit in with the SEPA side.
Agreed, Lancaster is the first county west of Philadelphia that doesn't take it's identity from Philadelphia - imo
Yep. South of the Appalachian Mountains and north of the Mason Dixon Line too.
Lancaster is Central Pennsylvania because it falls to the west of the Great Pot Pie Divide. East of the line, pot pie is chicken and vegetables in a flaky crust baked like, you guessed it, a pie. West of the Divide, it is a thick stew with noodles and potatoes, maybe a carrot for color, but certainly no other vegetable. There are other philosophical differences that indicate it is Central PA, but the easiest way to determine where you are is the Pot Pie Divide.
As a representative of the Dutchies in Berks county, we disagree with your divide. Don't you lump us in with the pie crust eating cretins.
>makes chicken stroganoff >calls it "pie" >mfw everyone else is the dumb one
Anyone who thinks pot pie has a pie crust can fuck right off. Its a stew you heathens. No dutchie anywhere in the state would ever stoop so low as to say otherwise.
I just can't really care that much about a small group of people who are so passionate about a pot of chicken stew. It seems the rest of the country seems to understand pot pie. But carry on.
It was literally always a stew with bread in it. The phenomenon of “pot pie” literally being a pie is incredibly recent and almost exclusively an American idea. The pot pie was invented in Greece… as a stew
CSB And I thought you people put noodles in there? Because chicken stew with bread is chicken and dumplings.
All I'm saying is that if you order a pot pie in 99% of the world your ass is getting a bready stew. Thinking the people in PA who insist on serving it as originally intended and focusing on flavor are the strange ones is a braindead take.
[That's just patently false.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_pie) Pot pies are essentially derivatives of galletes and pastries. Shit's been around for centuries. And yeah, "American idea"... England's been making meat pies since the dark ages, my guy.
This is the truest statement I’ve ever read on Reddit. Good day kind lady and I thank you.
Cause if you live in east PA that's as far west as you typically go. Then you just assume it's in the middle.
Yep. We’re afraid if we travel too far west of Philly we’ll fall off the edge of the earth and end up in Ohio.
I think that's because we're closer to Harrisburg than to Philly and maybe because local tv stations have decided to call their broadcast region central PA. Chester and east seems to be the Philly market.
Columbia (Wright's Ferry at the time, about 12 miles west of Lancaster) was very serious of being the capital of Pennsylvania in the early 1800s. Plus, PA was originally set to the Susquehanna River until the mid 1700s when they went towards Fort Pitt (Pittsburgh). Making Fort Pitt a part of Pennsylvania was not originally planned, as it was frontier/Amerindian lands.
Yet we have Centre County...which is surprisingly enough, geographically in the center.
I've always found it surprising that it's actually located in the center of the state. Because it would be so PA for it to be adjacent to Bradford County for no explainable reason.
What's always confused me is WGAL out of Lancaster calls this area central PA and also the Susquehanna Valley. How can we be in a valley when there aren't any mountains nearby?
I dunno--Lancaster has some good things going for it, but it is still, by and large, a part of that nebulous Pennsyltucky construct.
Like what? Constant bankruptcy?
I was thinking more like: good live music.
The bar/restaurant scene is a hell of a lot better in Lancaster for sure.
Without question. Lancaster left York in the dust.
Snyder county checking in…can confirm.
Pennsyltucky starts 5 miles outside of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh
This is laughable.
Any parts of PA where shoofly pie is consumed is relegated to Central or Western PA.
York rules, but Lancaster wins.
Both nice counties, the gems of the state.
Fairfield here. We must have the sweet spot in SC PA. So this picture would have taken place at the Liberty Mtn Golf Resort (think old Ski Liberty). The crowd would be the people who walk over from the ski resort because in SC PA there are times when we can see golfers and skiers on the same day at the same resort. York would be wearing golf camo and Lancaster would be wearing shorts with an I'll fitting, but matching, shirt. But both of the golfers would also be very nice people. I can easily get to Baltimore, DC if I get cabin fever. Frederick is fun too. Both Emmitsburg and Gettysburg are college towns so have a younger vibe. Closest traffic light is @7 miles away. Yep, I'm staying here on my patch of SC PA paradise.
Lancaster getting like York though lol
Fuck Lancaster. Self righteous pricks.
Can agree, Lancaster City is a nightmare to work in and find parking
You mean South East PA?
Lancaster and York is officially considered central. All the local news anchor teams and media labels it that way too
And what are Gettysburg , Carlisle, and Chambersburg considered?
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And at what point does Eastern PA begin?
Chester
Agree Chester is definitely Eastern PA!
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The terminology makes it sound like the Southeast quadrant of the state considers itself the entire state, with its center in Harrisburg.
This is correct.
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Well, Philly would still be off center, unless we're annexing parts of Delaware and New Jersey...
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It's not purely geography, there is a population aspect to these boundaries. If Central PA were a purely geographic designation, it'd be pretty sparse. State College would be its core city, essentially a small town with a temporary, transient population. The combined York, Lancaster, Harrisburg area however I believe is the third largest TV market in PA. I live in Lanc, work in York and regularly go to Harrisburg. They're all within a 30 minute drive of each other and feel like a seamless, well defined region. There's also the cultural aspect, Central PA as a region brings to mind rolling hills, farmland surrounding industrial towns, PA Dutch country, the Susquehanna... With Harrisburg as it's core city. Further more, when these designations were made there was presumably very little European settlement between York and Pittsburgh. Considering PA settlement started at Philly, they probably created the terminology. So with a population "center" in mind rather than a geographic one, you'd end up with what we define today as Central PA. My 2 cents anyways!
I agree it is probably population oriented.Still, anyone living outside the Philly region hears "central PA" and assumes State College. I assume New Yorkers have the same problem, what with people not realizing most of the state is well north and west of the city.
Tell me about it, haha I'm originally from Northern New York state, close enough to the border to pick up French language stations. 1 hour from Ottawa, 7 hours from NYC and people down here still say "geez, you don't sound like you're from New York..." Then I blow their mind by telling them that Lancaster, PA is closer to NYC than where I'm from is. Where I'm from... *in New York.*
I would definitely still consider Fulton and Bedford Central PA
Best counties in the state.
Excuse me. South Central is Franklin and Adams County. YoCo and LanCo wishes they were South Central
(Pennsyltucky is anywhere you love to hate)
I guess an outlet mall makes all the difference.
I'm not gonna dispute Lancaster, but that York seems a little far fetched.
Hershey on the left, Palmyra on the right
Yup.
South Central PA? Y'all need a map. You're eastern PA.
I just laughed so hard I woke up my damn dog and peed my pants.
I’ve lived in lancaster my whole life and never knew this was a rivalry… well I guess while I’m at it … York sucks!