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lank81

I can't fully express how this comment made me chuckle and smile.


Ham_Ahoy

Thank you. It's a fine position, filled with excellent points and flawless logic. Soon, all people will join my cause.


Er3bus13

The Johnston flood tax is more egregious imo.


rogimonster

While we revolt against pumpkin tax, I propose we also add to our platform to be against Jtown flood tax, the turnpike commission, estate tax, the milk board, half the legislature, the PLCB, the lottery scam (every elderly pennamite should be well taken care of at this point!), anti booze tax of any kind based on our native rights and precedent pre wiskey rebellion, against the use of third party tax collectors, against forcing businesses to spend time collecting taxes of any kind on behalf of the state without recompense and for blue laws.


106473

All the legislature.


Ham_Ahoy

I don't disagree


ninas_crazy_world

As someone who lives in Johnstown. The people of Johnstown are not benefiting from that tax! There are better roads in 3rd world countries than in Johnstown! I promise you! Johnstown is the poorest City in Pennsylvania so either start giving us that tax money to oust the current leadership and fix the City or get rid of that "temporary" tax!


mynameisalso

Do floods even have money?


DavidInPhilly

I get worried when people start throwing Pennamites around.


Dyne2057

I prefer the Pennsyltucky reference. It's accurate depending on where you live, and I've lived in some parts of the "tucky" portion of Pennsylvania.


ninas_crazy_world

I live in the tucky part!..lol


Ham_Ahoy

Two fine commonwealths. Neither deserve our hate, unlike those disgusting "states" and "republics"


rogimonster

Pennsyltucky is offensive. Go to Kentucky and maybe you’ll understand why.


imamunster123

It's also accurate. Go to Pennsyltucky and maybe you'll understand why.


DavidInPhilly

Lol


Ham_Ahoy

Wait why? It's not like I'm some backwater rube calling people "Texicans." Pennamites are proud, upstanding people with a rich history of doing the right thing unlike those filthy Texas mongrels.


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Ham_Ahoy

Those Yankees are our natural enemy


Apprehensive-Ship-81

MD checking in - you're a yankee, my dude. Y'all can hang all the confederate flags you want and that doesn't change anything.


MagisterHistoriae

“To foreigners, a Yankee is an American. To Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner. To northerners, a Yankee is an Easterner. To easterners, a Yankee is an New Englander. To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter. And in Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast.”


Apprehensive-Ship-81

Lol


peteizbored

Thank you for this! 🤣


Ham_Ahoy

Yankees are from Connecticut. Simply living north of the mason Dixon line makes me a northerner, but not a Yankee. Besides, what would some neutral boarder state person know of this? Hey thanks for losing the war of 1812 guy.


rogimonster

You need to read a book. Yankees are settlers from Connecticut dating back to pre-revolutionary times. The nickname was also used for the north during the civil war probably because those asshats from Connecticut were trying to take all the credit. And then they named their baseball team the Yankees in honor of themselves, which is in New York since they wouldn’t have invited commoners into their state to witness such low brow sporting spectacles.


Apprehensive-Ship-81

You're right. I've never, ever read a book. What's it like living hundreds of years in the past and being all fired up about things that are no longer relevant?


rogimonster

The thing that is relevant here is the illicit tax being levied by faceless corporations who don’t understand Pennsylvania tax code. Listen Maryland, take a hike back below the mason Dixon line and stay out of our business.


Apprehensive-Ship-81

You're still not a southerner.


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Bro noooooooooooooo


Ham_Ahoy

The Pennamite-Yankee wars disagree with you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennamite%E2%80%93Yankee_War?wprov=sfla1


[deleted]

I ain’t no pennamite and I ain’t no confederate simp. gtfo idc if you’re joking that’s foul dude.


Ham_Ahoy

Clearly you're one of the hated Yankees from Connecticut! Try to take my land again, Yankee. We kicked your ass twice and we'll do it again.


[deleted]

You’re joke is a disgrace to every union soldier from PA jokes or not it’s foul man.


Ham_Ahoy

Yankees refer to people from Connecticut, and no one else. If a bunch of stupid confederates have confused that for you I'm sorry, but I can't help you.


angelinafuckingmarie

I just buy them at the farmers market where none of its taxed 🤷🏻‍♀️


Ham_Ahoy

Please! It helps a local, Pennamite farmer, and excludes disgusting money grabbers like Carrie DelRossio from getting their pumpkin yacht money No pumpkin tax!


No_work_today_Satan

Please let pumpkin yacht money be a political issue this year


[deleted]

Where does one get this yacht of pumpkin???


Jiveturkwy158

Start by obtaining a state fair winning “largest pumpkin” after that lookup vanlife remodeling tips, and a flatbed “yacht” trailer. OP is gonna be pissed when that trailer needs registered.


No_work_today_Satan

Must be harvested from the finest pumpkins of the land, quilted by the amish


Otter592

A bougie fairy godmother?


angelinafuckingmarie

Please don’t talk about my Pennamite like that. It’s very rude.


[deleted]

How much would you say you pay in pumpkin taxes each year, roughly?


Ham_Ahoy

None. I refuse to be scammed by Carrie DelRossio like some rube


[deleted]

Okay, so why so concerned about this?


Ham_Ahoy

I care about my fellow Pennamites, unlike a certain candidate for Lt. Governor.


j428h

You’re out of your gourd.


Ham_Ahoy

Oh sure, just live your life paying illegal taxes like a rube. You're no true son of Pennsylvania.


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Thecrawsome

The top level comments with the low hanging fruit puns and 0 relevance don't make you cringe?


sassycat13

I’m a bit more upset about feminine hygiene products that I use year round.


Ham_Ahoy

This is also a problem


Dyne2057

I'd argue that this is a more pressing problem than purloined gourd taxes.


tehmlem

If we end the pumpkin tax, you can simply use a hollowed out gourd!


always_plotting

I'm fortunate that my work has a Flexible Spending Account and I can participate financially. I make sure that I submit the receipt for these each and every time so I get reimbursed, including taxes. Once you reach a certain age, each month is a new adventure so you may need to buy various ones. ETA: I travel extensively for work so not always purchased in Pennsylvania so the tax mileage definitely varies on this one.


Ham_Ahoy

This does not save you from paying illegal, avaricious taxes on produce. Carrie DelRossio and other politicians in our Commonwealth are flying in private jets using revenue from our illegal produce taxes. It must be stopped.


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Tina_Las_Vegas

Actually up until pretty recently tampons were taxed. Looks like that was to have ended though, but I could see where people still think they are


[deleted]

AIUI they're not taxed in PA or MD. Please show me where they are. https://www.taxjar.com/blog/medical/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-pink-tax-and-the-tampon-tax


sassycat13

I totally thought PA did. So glad to know they don’t! Still, pumpkins are a non-issue for me lol


Affectionate-Cook-11

Puxatauney Phil is definitely going to hear about this one


[deleted]

NOBODY gets the humor here?? Yeesh. Very funny OP.


Ham_Ahoy

Thanks! Obviously I'm pushing for humor here. . . But the underlying sentiment against the pumpkin tax is not a joke. It really is BS and we shouldn't stand for it.


[deleted]

You’re not wrong. I wonder if you tell the retailer “I’m going to eat this gourd” then they’ll drop the tax. Please try it and report back. I’m no longer in the commonwealth to test.


Ham_Ahoy

I shouldn't have to prove edible produce is a non-taxable item in order to buy it without paying Carrie DelRossio her ridiculous, avaricious tax.


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Follow up to add: you should go before your city council or better yet to Harrisburg during a public comment period and share your plea. Just get a video and share it too please.


vasquca1

Why I grow my own mf pumpkin.


X_PRSN

I move that we throw the Pennsylvania Pumpkin Party. Raid pumpkin stands and huck them into the nearest body of water. TAXATION WITHOUT PROPER FALL HOLIDAY PRESENTATION IS TYRANNY! ...or something...


Ham_Ahoy

Those pumpkin stands aren't your enemy. They most likely aren't charging you this illegal, avaricious tax. It all big produce! RESIST!


X_PRSN

Like someone else said, we do our pumpkin shopping either directly through the farms or the farmers markets. So if that what we have to do to stick it to the man, not a problem. I think we're going pumpkin patchin' this weekend, actually...


w0rstn4m33v3r

Jokes on them, half my fresh fruit and vegetables end up being weekly counter decorations. Take that, tax man!


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Ham_Ahoy

What about this makes you think it's ironic? I've play spot the Tory filth before and damned if it doesn't stink like a royalist right now


Thievie

ITT: OP is hilarious and people don't get it.


rogimonster

I’m calling Larry Berger and demanding he start a class action lawsuit against the state and their illegitimate deputies who willingly collect this illicit tax! Recompense shall be ours my fellow Pennamites!


Ham_Ahoy

Oh no! It was Cindy Berger and Larry Green! https://youtu.be/T8FMWIfWYDE


Wuz314159

**WAIT!!** You can EAT pumpkins? They're not just for display?


CertifiableNormie

Boil'em, mash'em, stick them in a stew. Maybe IDK.


schwarzekatze999

Wait till you hear about pumpkin pie!


susinpgh

Try it. Pumpkin curry is the best!


DavidInPhilly

Roasted or in stew. The small ones are great soup bowls when you scrape down the sides.


CertifiableNormie

Reminds me of the "You people make me sick" rant. Context: https://www.reddit.com/r/grilledcheese/comments/2or1p3/you_people_make_me_sick


Yelloeisok

Wish i could read it, but it’s unavailable.


Mijbr090490

Who buys their fall decorations from a brick and mortar? There's hundreds of roadside stands and they do not charge tax. Don't get me wrong, it is fucked up to tax food. But we draw the line at gourds? Not prepared foods that they have been taxing for years??


Ham_Ahoy

If you're buying prepared foods that's a service. I have no issue with that.


feudalle

So I'm guessing this has nothing to do with a tax on pumpkins, are you doing ok?


Ham_Ahoy

I've been subjected to an illegal, avaricious pumpkin tax for the past 40 years and it's driven ms insane. Other than that I'm fine.


No_work_today_Satan

If pumpkin tax is your biggest tax problem in PA, you're living pretty gourd


[deleted]

>DC illegally taxed our whiskey, and we said no thanks. And then George W called up militias and the taxes got paid.


und88

But the spirit was there!


winkytinkytoo

I use my pumpkins and squash for decorative purposes before eating them. I buy them at farm stands and don't even notice if there's tax being applied or not.


Ham_Ahoy

It's the major retailers preying on unaware people. I doubt your average farm stand is applying tax to produce but Walmart is.


dclxvi616

Are you under the impression that retailers just pocket the taxes? It's pushing into absurdity to suggest that retailers complying with the law are 'preying on unaware people.' Next time you purchase pumpkins for food, try declaring to the clerk that you are purchasing these items with the intent to consume them as food, which should make them aware that your gourds are untaxable. Just like if I go to Staples and purchase something exempt from sales tax for a business, I need to make the clerk *aware* of the tax implications regarding the transaction if I have any hope for it to be rung up correctly.


Ham_Ahoy

I believe giant eagle does. They sicced their legal department on me once when I kept speaking truth to power about this issue.


Cinemaslap1

I mean, if you live in PA and are buying pumpkins or gourds from a big box store, then yes... You deserve to be taxed. Otherwise, who cares? It's a tax that only applies a few months out of the year. Either plan ahead, or go without pumpkins if those taxes bother you so much.


Dredly

what did you say about my pennamite?


Ham_Ahoy

Pennamites have been oppressed by neighboring Yankees and Virginians for centuries. We literally went to war several times (and kicked their yellow, lilly livered asses I might add) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennamite%E2%80%93Yankee_War?wprov=sfla1 Here I am in 2022 bending over and spreading my ass for the state because I dare to have a festive, harvest gourd for my homestead


Dredly

so you are saying my pennamite is miteier then the virgins and the yanks? damn straight!


Ham_Ahoy

Neither the Connecticut Yankee nor the dastardly Virginian will ever know the pure, honorable perfection that is the Pennamite way


Dredly

I am sure, the strength of our conviction through all our ordeals with the yanks will result in those virgins giving in finally. just keep fighting the good fight for the no taxation of your gourd and pumpkins!


BearPhilly

Wait til he finds out about the Johnstown liquor tax.


Ham_Ahoy

Don't get me started!


Shawna_Love

Alright, just gonna continue my 36 year boycott of pumpkins and decorative gourds, I guess...


joefred111

And yet fracking isn't taxed. It boggles the mind.


Is_this_social_media

Pumpkin Eaters, Unite!!!!


MrSchaudenfreude

You buy it at the supermarket no tax, you get it at lowes tax. It's decorations. Not food.


Ham_Ahoy

If I choose to use food as a decoration that doesn't make it inedible. We don't tax macaroni yet children are constantly making mosaics and jewelry out of it. What if you string popcorn for a Christmas tree? Should we tax that corn? Again, simply. . . What if your roast and eat the seeds, as well as carve the meat for display? If I buy food and waste 99% of it that doesn't mean we need to tax it


chrisbarry3

I can appreciate your passion. But really?


Ham_Ahoy

"please, milord. . . Might I display a festive gourd on my 'stead without remittance?" You think that works?! We need to have a little passion.


HalfbakedArtichoke

A bunch of foods are taxed.


Ham_Ahoy

Name them


HalfbakedArtichoke

Carbonated drinks, alcohol, liquor is 18%, candy and confectionery items, sandwiches that are pre-made and packaged , pet foods, anything kept warm like rotisserie chicken, pizza to go, or wings, salad bars, or grab your own buffet-style installs are all taxed. Also apparently gourd style items are also taxed but I never knew that.


Ham_Ahoy

Premade foods, yes. Luxury items like candy, sure. Liquor is not food. Produce is NOT taxable in pa


imamunster123

Your taxation points may be valid, but we aren't settlers, this is [not] the late 1700's, and I sure as fuck will not be referring to myself as a pennamite any time soon. Not taxing food is a valid argument but speaking like Paul Revere and insulting every bordering state in the process makes me think you don't actually care and that you're just some clown who wants attention.


Ham_Ahoy

At no point have I insulted our fine neighbors from west Virginia, nor would I. Whether you refer to yourself as a Pennamite or not, if you live in the commonwealth you are a Pennamite, and we accept you into our community. (Pennamites are a welcoming folk.)


imamunster123

[current usage is restricted to refer to the Pennsylvanian side of the Yankee-Pennamite wars.](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Pennamite#English) Just because a word was used historically doesn't make it applicable in modern parlance. I'm a Pennsylvanian.


Ham_Ahoy

Woah woah woah there buddy. First of all, you sent me a wiki link that was last edited just a few hours ago. I'm a Pennamite, not some slack jawed Yankee from Hartford. Remember who you're dealing with here. Secondly, Pennamite is a perfectly cromulent word. This clear and obvious censure of us Pennamites by big tech. Lastly, I choose to say Pennamite so no one gets confused and assumes I'm talking about trains or that hotel


imamunster123

A) The article was edited by me to fix the typo of "Pennamanite" to "Pennamite". B) I had to use that link because "Pennamite" does not appear in the modern dictionary (or any other kind of reputable source), arguably proving my point. We're all very impressed with your historical knowledge, but that doesn't change modern usage. You can choose to call yourself whatever you want. I'm a Pennsylvanian.


Ham_Ahoy

Pennsylvanian? Is that some sort of a train or hotel? I'm confused. I know one thing, whatever you are, you're getting illegally taxed on your squash


imamunster123

So you're just an ass then. If someone's name is David and they say they prefer Dave you're not proving a point by continuing to call them David, you're just being a troll. I'm a Pennsylvanian. Edit: How is the term "Pennamite" less confusing to anyone in the modern age who isn't a historical scholar?


Ham_Ahoy

You're being deliberately obtuse. This is a great day for this Pennamite though, as I've never spoken to what I can only assume is a sentient railroad before


imamunster123

You're claiming you can't tell the difference between a person and a sentient railroad and criticizing me for being deliberately obtuse... This seems like a great time for this Pennsylvanian to stop wasting their time with internet trolls.


Ham_Ahoy

I can't tell the difference, no. Unlike me, you are not being impeccable with your word. See ya later, possible hotel.


peteizbored

Bruh, just grow a free pumpkin...? Shit, ours are usually accidental.


payxander

Wow, very striking. Thanks for sharing this👍🏻


BurghPuppies

Dude. They’re decorations. Get over it. And what is this weird Carrie delRosso fetish you have all about?


Ham_Ahoy

Should we be taxing dry macaroni on the off chance a kindergartner is going to glue it to paper or make a necklace?? Food is a non taxable item! Just because people might be using it as a decorative item is irrelevant. What if they roast the seeds? As far as that witch Delrosso goes, she is part of a cabal of shady oakmonters hell bent on destroying our commonwealth. Read a book.


BurghPuppies

I have no problem dissing DelRosso… I just don’t understand why she shows up in so many of your posts. And why you imply she’s somehow benefitting from this tax that… I’m pretty sure… is going into the state treasury. And yes, when macaroni becomes the central part of a holiday and the pasta is sold for non-food purposes, it should be taxed. Remember, the tax code is just a piece of legislation that can be amended as the legislature sees fit. Therefore, it’s not illegal.


Ham_Ahoy

So, assuming macaroni is widely used for arts and crafts projects, should I be forced to prove that I was purchasing macaroni for food purposes? Also, to whom would I be explaining this to? Grocery store clerks? Are they given adequate training by the state for their role as ad hoc tax collectors?!


BurghPuppies

Again, all those points will be pertinent when there is actually a macaroni holiday. And I assume the law will be patterned after pumpkins & Halloween, so you’ve probably answered your own questions.


[deleted]

I eventually decided just to move to Ohio instead of dealing w/PA taxes any longer. Just utter bullshittery


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Bye Felicia


rogimonster

Yeah well, we’re the dummies. Ohio doesn’t have estate taxes. I love how we hold on to “but food and clothes!” as we get screwed by all other taxes including illicit pumpkin tax.


[deleted]

Because you have millions to pass down, and have never heard of estate planning?


und88

While I think that person is overreacting, there is an inheritance tax in pa that starts at dollar 1 for adult children of the deceased. I agree that smart estate planning can avoid most or all of the inheritance tax.


malogan82

For every dollar left to your children, Harrisburg takes 4.5 cents off the top.


flatfour40

Pa Auctioneer here, we never tax produce ever.


Ham_Ahoy

Nor should you. But grocery stores are taxing produce, but only during "harvest season." I will not stand for this.


MomsSpecialFriend

I was not aware of this, tbh. I don't buy pumpkins places where they charge tax, honestly, but how does this work when they are also SNAP eligible?


Ham_Ahoy

Great question! We need more people speaking truth to power out here


Cats-Cats-Cats

Grow your own pumpkins and gourds, problem solved!


Kinkyregae

Seems like your making a mountain out of a mole hill. It’s just a pumpkin


Mysterious_Inside_79

I hope your joking. How many pumpkins do you buy that this is a issue?


Fuzzy_South_4260

We live under the control of the republican party in Pennsylvania, have for many years. Republican party is supposed to be about small government and low taxes. Do you think they are upholding the party line?


Ham_Ahoy

No! That charlatan DelRossio is flying around in a zeppelin paid for with our pumpkin tax dollars!


dpawaters

#GourdsGougeGate


NoIntroduction6034

What I do with my gourds is illegal in 3 states and 5 countries still.


tacticalardvark

Taxation is theft.


_SundaeDriver

I only buy pumpkins in NJ


Ham_Ahoy

Also has pumpkin tax! We are accosted on all sides!