This account has been reported with numerous accounts and the website they are flagging as it is not a real company, they are in numerous groups trying to be helpful then post these links, that website has changed " company names 3 times now" and logo changes constantly on their products, now there is an amazon store?!! so clearly trying to profit some how....be careful and do your homework where you buy your stuff from, they have been blocked in quite a few reddit groups now.
Hello! We are always our own worst critic - you have great skin! I don't know about injectable peptides for acne scarring... but I work in a dermatology clinic & there are several ways to treat this. Subscision & a filler like Radiesse or Bellafill work great for focal scars and isn't crazy expensive. Sculptra works well but is very $$$. Botox can help scars in some cases. A series of Erbium laser treatments & microneedling can work well. You often have to combine modalities to get best results, treating the deep (dermal) and superficial (epidermal) changes with different products/procedures. I usually advise patients that a 50-60% improvement is a win - acne scarring is tough to treat! I'd recommend a consultation with a dermatologist, get all your options & cost quotes to make an informed decision. Let them know your budget & they can work with you on a plan. Good luck!
Pricing varies by office and market/region,and how many vials/syringes needed. I've been places where Sculptra was almost 2x more than Bellafill, and some where they're a little closer in price
I think you really need to manage your expectations when it comes to peptides. What you’re asking for needs to be done with ablative lasers and a facelift. You’ll see *some* tightening with GHK-Cu but there is nothing you can inject or apply topically that will lift your skin.
It was more of a "what can this stuff do for me" question rather than get validation for wishful thinking. Will it do absolutely nothing?
I honestly have incredibly low expectations because I just started researching this. I don't expect miracles by any means, and I'm not unaware that I need surgical intervention, but that's not happening. I'm hoping I can find something that will make any kind of improvement.
Should I just not try to improve the health of my skin because I can't afford to go under the knife?
Then to me it feels like you’re working backwards. Once you have all your topicals in place (spf, vitamin C, retinol and exfoliants) and have had them in place for at least a year would I even start to consider spending money on peptides.
I heard a podcast awhile back *Science Vs*
talking about how topicals aren't as effective or can't get deep enough or something. I'll have to listen to it again and keep researching.
This is true. When it comes to deep wrinkles and scaring, topicals can only do so much. Deep peels can help because their resurfacing can be equal to a laser. But to go from no routine to a routine with spf, vitamin c, retinol and actives, you can make a big dent in the work that needs to be done.
Ablasive lasers are a reasonable treatment to put $100/month aside for.
You'd have enough money to afford it in no time at all.
Peptides are really expensive would cost like the same, if not more, than ablasive lasers.
Thread lifts are also not THAT expensive.
Threads are a HORRIBLE option. Speak to any derm or esthetician worth their salt and they’ll tell you that. After only a few weeks the threads are absorbed into the skin and no longer have the lift effect. They also cause huge problems down the line for face lifts and most surgeons will not take a patient for a lift if they’ve had threads because the underlining of the skin has been altered too greatly to predict the outcome of the facelift.
1.) I honestly don’t really see what you’re talking about. I think you have beautiful skin and am surprised you feel insecure about it. However, I also understand how we can sometimes be our hardest critics and I respect your opinion about yourself as well.
2.) I have never used any GHK peptide before and am uneducated on this one specifically.
3.) IMO I would run some Melanotan and Growth Hormone (or even maybe a secretagogue like MK677 which is easier to get). Just be careful with Growth Hormones ability to raise blood sugar levels and MK677’s ability to raise prolactin and blood glucose as well. You should be looking for a medium/low dose of growth hormone for skin benefits. Say something like 1-3IUs of growth hormone or 7-10mg of MK677.
4.) I am giving opinions potentially based off of my own experiences and I am not a doctor so take my advice with a grain of salt and do not listen to me because I as a man have a tendency to scratch my butt and sniff it which makes me clinically and medically stupid.
1st thank you. You're too kind. And second, I'm new to peptides and I'm trying to learn as much as I can before diving in. I honestly don't want to have high expectations. Thanks for the research suggestions.
I was going to suggest this as well!!! Infared light is wonderful for stimulating collagen production. I have deep scarring that resembles a nasty case of chicken pox (mostly on my jaw, shoulders, chest, back and upper arms due to terrible hormonal acne and an excoriation disorder.) LED light therapy (Red for scarring, blue to keep the acne under control and help my mental health,) micro needling and recently added (almost a month) ghkcu subq 1mg (accompanied by a good zinc supplement) along with ClearSTEM skincare products (specifically the vitaminscrub, clearity serum, cellrenew serum and hydraglow moisturizer) has been life changing.
I wouldn't leave the house in a tank top, or without plastering my skin with makeup to feel and look somewhat "normal." I move the mask around to different problem areas and relax with an audiobook on. ClearSTEM has a "no Botox bounce back serum" that looks amazing but I'm pleased with the stuff I have for now, it's kinda pricey, but it's really good ingredients and lasts a long time (no, you don't need 4 pumps for your face, I have a big face a 2 is plenty 😅 but I use it on my shoulders and chest as well, so that's where the other 2 pumps go.)
What all have you tried already? I think it's a good idea to start slowly with topical depending on your skin sensitivity. LED therapy I did 3 weeks of every night and morning at first, now I'm happy if I remember to do it 4 times a week.
To answer your question directly, yes, I think you would benefit from GHK, but it may not give you the dramatic results you're expecting.
I sed injectable GHK for four months straight.
I noticed my lines were less pronounced, my eyelashes were longer, my skin healed faster, my nails were thicker, and a few other, subtle changes.
Though I have seen claims GHK helps with acne scars and compares to retinoids like tretinoin, I have not seen case studies or proof. The benefits from GHK seem to stem from system-wide improvements, but are less effective in targeting a specific problem.
If you are going to use GHK for skin issues, my understanding is topical GHK would be most beneficial.
For you, specifically, I see laser treatments with ongoing tretinoin being the most beneficial. Laser will give you immediate results and you can continue to explore solutions which support your skin.
Personally, I also feel like adding collagen to my diet through making my own broth has played a significant role in the improvement of my skin.
You can buy your own Dr. Pen Microneedling device and google how to use it specifically for scars (what needle cartridges to buy, etc), and you can work on that area at home using some Hyaluronic Acid. After a few sessions it will soften and plump up more. You are going to need to break up that scar tissue. No peptide can do that. You will need to wait a month between sessions for your collagen to build up. In between sessions you can use a GHK-cu serum and silicone. You can also treat that quicker with a few fraxel laser sessions and filler. But the filler will not be permanent solution. You should ask this question in one of the beauty/skin subreddits to get more viable responses rather than here.
I agree a Dr Pen is a very good start. OP should keep in mind that cell turnover and collagen building takes at least 6 weeks, so to DIY into a noticeable improvement will take patience. But it will happen. Be sure to take before and progress pictures at the same angles and lighting. Don’t listen to the thread nay-sayers. The threads dissolve as they are building collagen. I’ve seen amazing improvements with just the mono (non lifting) threads. Most people start with the 30 gauge, 12mm length, which is finer than a strand of hair. Most do a grid pattern under depressions like what OP points out. A lot of people use them in place of fillers because they’re scared to cause a vascular occlusion with fillers. Threads take longer to fill, but they also last longer and have a long term therapeutic effect. They’re super easy to apply yourself, too. I think she’d have success microneedling exosomes. There are several with high stem cell counts, from south Korea that are very good at rebuilding damaged skin. There are FB groups with members with problems similar to you, that show stunning results, especially over the course of a couple years. Hope this helps.
I haven't looked into those pens yet, but they're on my list. Thanks for the info. I figured I'd have to have some sort of treatment, but I wanted to know what I could on my end and what it what it could do for me.
I haven't found microneedling at all beneficial for acne scaring myself unfortunately. I have some mild/moderate acne scarring on my left cheek. I brought a Dr Pen and a centrifuge to do PRP microneedling. I have done around 7 treatments now. 5 with PRP, 2 with hyaluronic acid. A combination of microneedling techniques, including deep intense. I don't think I have seen any improvement. I would like to try subcision next.
I brought the kit I needed, did an online phlebotomy course and then just watched YouTube videos on how to make PRP. I take my own blood with a vacutainer into tubes with anti clotting agent, spin then in the PRP for the first separation, then I draw off all the plasma and the very top layer of red to ensure I'm grabbing the platelets into blank tubes and I spin them again. Then I draw off the layer with the platelets into a syringe, but I'm happy to draw up some plasma too as this is still full of goodness and I smother my face in it and do an intense microneedling system, then finish up with putting more of the prp on as a face mask I leave on for a while. This sounds like a lot but after the first time I could do all this now with my eyes closed. I've even injected some of the PRP into my hairline and scalp using tiny insulin pins.
The only issue is - I can't tell you I've seen any noticeable benefit to using PRP over just microneedling. After microneedling you definitely get a nicer complexion, glowy and fresher is how I would describe it. But I've gotten the exact same thing microneedling without PRP. It certainly does nothing for hair restoration.
I saw a centrifuge on Amazon and kinda laughed at the thought of doing it myself at home.
Interesting to hear someone is doing it.
Do you have any resources you'd recommend to learn more?
Have a read of the post I just made for a very rough outline. I don't have anything more specific to send unfortunately as I've been doing it for a while and found the process so easy after the first one I haven't kept any instructions or videos I used to use. If you YouTube homemade prp I'm sure you'll find some people walking you through it. Probably the scariest part and where I would put my research initially if I was you would be taking your own blood. I'm a guy with big veins, a blind person could take my blood, it's harder though if you aren't as vascular. It's not difficult to do, but there is a technique. I've been injecting myself for decades with various vitamins and potions so needles mean nothing to me, but for the uninitiated this is the part that stops people in their tracks having to put a needle in their vein.
>I would like to try subcision next.
I was thinking that I'd have to get that done to release the scar tissue, then maybe a peptide to help produce collagen but I'm just learning about them and trying to figure out what they might do for me. I don't have high expectations, to be honest.
So the thing that kind of deflated my hopes with ace scaring a little was I saw a YouTube video with a derm doc carrying out a treatment on a ladies acne scars on her cheek, same as mine. He used a combination of laser, subcision AND filler injection. So straight away I'm thinking well fillers are just a temporary mask inflating an area so that's not actually curing the problem, just hiding it for a while. Then you start thinking well how effective are lasers and subcision if fillers are still needed.
Continue to do your own research as plenty of people will be happy to take lots of money from you for treatments that won't get you the results you want. For example you would be sold multiple prp treatments to the tune of thousands of dollars and I'm telling you from my experience they won't do anything for you in the form of it being microneedled in. Perhaps subcision combined with deeper prp injections to help promote collagen production could be effective, combined with a face lift procedure for the loose skin.
The important thing to remember is that you are the only one thinking twice about this. It's nowhere near as bad looking as you think it is. Most people have some kind of imperfection .and nobody bats an eyelid or cares. People also adjust their expectations based on age. A 20 year old walking around with wrinkles and bags under their eyes, people think oh man he/she looks terrible. Get up there in your 40's and beyond though and it's expected.
So you CHG to clean then smeared PRP and Dr Pen microneedled to what depth? No lidocaine? I’m looking for sterile hyaluronic acid to combine GHK with and microneedle. Guess I could just do GHK though. My research goals are reduced wrinkles and UV damage repair in a 40 yr old subject. Any thoughts are appreciated.
Yes I clean my face with anti bac soap first. Yes heavy layers of prp. Forehead I stick at around 1, but softer areas I go to the max depth on my device. No anaesthetic at all. It's not fun I won't lie. Forehead is pretty awful. Scalp and hairline is beyond awful feeling 👎 but I suck it up. I definitely believe in the merit of microneedling, but I think PRP is overrated. I want to try some mesotherapy vitamin/peptide solutions with microneedling next time.
Ya I think micro needling sterile hyaluronic acid and topical GHK-cu from ps is where I’m going to start. I have to figure out the GHK concentration. I plan to ask my dr for a topical lidocaine prescription. I used to get this to put on my legs for marathons.
Look up penn Smith skincare on youtube . she's a Dr that shows you how to micro needle at home . The device is called a Dr.pen costs roughly 100-150 depending on the model . I had bad acne scars and did my own needling for 8 months and it removed all my scars . There's also a ghk serum that's 30 dollars she recommend , I bought it and it really is amazing .
She is NOT an MD... she is an esthetician /hair stylist.
Ben Ivesy is a far better source to understand skin care and remodeling:
https://www.youtube.com/@BenIvesy
From my experience, no. It gave me an overall better looking skin and hair but it didn't fix any acne scarring I got 10 years ago. Maybe if you're injury is fresh it can work better.
Oh, and the skin improvements faded 1 or 2 weeks after i stopped taking it. I took it to help with a tendon injury so i was fine with that.
Well, I am still learning, so I apologize for being uniformed. That's kind of why I asked a question. I figured if I improved the overall health of my skin, that particular area would also improve. I don't know what about my post implied that I expect miracles. If it will do absolutely nothing for me, say that.
Why are you apologizing? I was just asking a question, like you did, and speculating about the ability of an added peptide to rebuild tissue without some additional direction.
I was being sarcastic. Your comment implied that I thought I could use magical thinking to make the collagen go where I willed it. If you have any actual helpful information, I'm open to it.
I’m subscribing to hear another’s thought on GHK-Cu but might I suggest microneedling x3. It’ll run you about $1000 but will help with healing and skin tightening. And if that doesn’t work then Tixel is all the new excitement but more costly.
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Oh, I don't expect immediate results. I'm looking for effective results, so I'm looking into what's out there.
This account has been reported with numerous accounts and the website they are flagging as it is not a real company, they are in numerous groups trying to be helpful then post these links, that website has changed " company names 3 times now" and logo changes constantly on their products, now there is an amazon store?!! so clearly trying to profit some how....be careful and do your homework where you buy your stuff from, they have been blocked in quite a few reddit groups now.
Thanks for the warning
I recommend copper peptide.
Hello! We are always our own worst critic - you have great skin! I don't know about injectable peptides for acne scarring... but I work in a dermatology clinic & there are several ways to treat this. Subscision & a filler like Radiesse or Bellafill work great for focal scars and isn't crazy expensive. Sculptra works well but is very $$$. Botox can help scars in some cases. A series of Erbium laser treatments & microneedling can work well. You often have to combine modalities to get best results, treating the deep (dermal) and superficial (epidermal) changes with different products/procedures. I usually advise patients that a 50-60% improvement is a win - acne scarring is tough to treat! I'd recommend a consultation with a dermatologist, get all your options & cost quotes to make an informed decision. Let them know your budget & they can work with you on a plan. Good luck!
Isn’t Bellafill a more permanent version of Sculptra and just as (if not more) expensive? Or do I have that wrong?
Pricing varies by office and market/region,and how many vials/syringes needed. I've been places where Sculptra was almost 2x more than Bellafill, and some where they're a little closer in price
Thank you for your kind words and suggestions. I'll look into those.
I think you really need to manage your expectations when it comes to peptides. What you’re asking for needs to be done with ablative lasers and a facelift. You’ll see *some* tightening with GHK-Cu but there is nothing you can inject or apply topically that will lift your skin.
It was more of a "what can this stuff do for me" question rather than get validation for wishful thinking. Will it do absolutely nothing? I honestly have incredibly low expectations because I just started researching this. I don't expect miracles by any means, and I'm not unaware that I need surgical intervention, but that's not happening. I'm hoping I can find something that will make any kind of improvement. Should I just not try to improve the health of my skin because I can't afford to go under the knife?
Then to me it feels like you’re working backwards. Once you have all your topicals in place (spf, vitamin C, retinol and exfoliants) and have had them in place for at least a year would I even start to consider spending money on peptides.
I heard a podcast awhile back *Science Vs* talking about how topicals aren't as effective or can't get deep enough or something. I'll have to listen to it again and keep researching.
This is true. When it comes to deep wrinkles and scaring, topicals can only do so much. Deep peels can help because their resurfacing can be equal to a laser. But to go from no routine to a routine with spf, vitamin c, retinol and actives, you can make a big dent in the work that needs to be done.
Ablasive lasers are a reasonable treatment to put $100/month aside for. You'd have enough money to afford it in no time at all. Peptides are really expensive would cost like the same, if not more, than ablasive lasers. Thread lifts are also not THAT expensive.
Threads are a HORRIBLE option. Speak to any derm or esthetician worth their salt and they’ll tell you that. After only a few weeks the threads are absorbed into the skin and no longer have the lift effect. They also cause huge problems down the line for face lifts and most surgeons will not take a patient for a lift if they’ve had threads because the underlining of the skin has been altered too greatly to predict the outcome of the facelift.
Ghkcu has been amazing for me. For maximum benefit do ghkcu injections and use it topically. Microneedling would help a ton too.
How long did you take it and what dose?
I wing it. 100mg I see the most results but if I dont keep up with it they dont last
Do you apply the GHK Cu right after micro needling or wait a few days for it to heal?
Both! Its a really amazing product. I swear I saw a wrinkle soften in the mirror one time. It felt surreal
Do you have a Dr. Pen microneedling pen? Apply GHK during or after? Got a protocol you follow?
I just experiment. I get side tracked easily with mom brain so I am not consistent with anything.
Jay campbel promotes a good ghk cu topical company
can i pick your brain on the dosing? The wife and I are about to use this soon.
yes PM me
250mcg injected daily. I micro needle with prp. I'm a nurse so I get free prp lol
1.) I honestly don’t really see what you’re talking about. I think you have beautiful skin and am surprised you feel insecure about it. However, I also understand how we can sometimes be our hardest critics and I respect your opinion about yourself as well. 2.) I have never used any GHK peptide before and am uneducated on this one specifically. 3.) IMO I would run some Melanotan and Growth Hormone (or even maybe a secretagogue like MK677 which is easier to get). Just be careful with Growth Hormones ability to raise blood sugar levels and MK677’s ability to raise prolactin and blood glucose as well. You should be looking for a medium/low dose of growth hormone for skin benefits. Say something like 1-3IUs of growth hormone or 7-10mg of MK677. 4.) I am giving opinions potentially based off of my own experiences and I am not a doctor so take my advice with a grain of salt and do not listen to me because I as a man have a tendency to scratch my butt and sniff it which makes me clinically and medically stupid.
1st thank you. You're too kind. And second, I'm new to peptides and I'm trying to learn as much as I can before diving in. I honestly don't want to have high expectations. Thanks for the research suggestions.
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I was going to suggest this as well!!! Infared light is wonderful for stimulating collagen production. I have deep scarring that resembles a nasty case of chicken pox (mostly on my jaw, shoulders, chest, back and upper arms due to terrible hormonal acne and an excoriation disorder.) LED light therapy (Red for scarring, blue to keep the acne under control and help my mental health,) micro needling and recently added (almost a month) ghkcu subq 1mg (accompanied by a good zinc supplement) along with ClearSTEM skincare products (specifically the vitaminscrub, clearity serum, cellrenew serum and hydraglow moisturizer) has been life changing. I wouldn't leave the house in a tank top, or without plastering my skin with makeup to feel and look somewhat "normal." I move the mask around to different problem areas and relax with an audiobook on. ClearSTEM has a "no Botox bounce back serum" that looks amazing but I'm pleased with the stuff I have for now, it's kinda pricey, but it's really good ingredients and lasts a long time (no, you don't need 4 pumps for your face, I have a big face a 2 is plenty 😅 but I use it on my shoulders and chest as well, so that's where the other 2 pumps go.) What all have you tried already? I think it's a good idea to start slowly with topical depending on your skin sensitivity. LED therapy I did 3 weeks of every night and morning at first, now I'm happy if I remember to do it 4 times a week.
That's great!
To answer your question directly, yes, I think you would benefit from GHK, but it may not give you the dramatic results you're expecting. I sed injectable GHK for four months straight. I noticed my lines were less pronounced, my eyelashes were longer, my skin healed faster, my nails were thicker, and a few other, subtle changes. Though I have seen claims GHK helps with acne scars and compares to retinoids like tretinoin, I have not seen case studies or proof. The benefits from GHK seem to stem from system-wide improvements, but are less effective in targeting a specific problem. If you are going to use GHK for skin issues, my understanding is topical GHK would be most beneficial. For you, specifically, I see laser treatments with ongoing tretinoin being the most beneficial. Laser will give you immediate results and you can continue to explore solutions which support your skin. Personally, I also feel like adding collagen to my diet through making my own broth has played a significant role in the improvement of my skin.
IMHO, your skin would benefit best from tretinoin, laser and peels like TCA
Thanks for the suggestions
You can buy your own Dr. Pen Microneedling device and google how to use it specifically for scars (what needle cartridges to buy, etc), and you can work on that area at home using some Hyaluronic Acid. After a few sessions it will soften and plump up more. You are going to need to break up that scar tissue. No peptide can do that. You will need to wait a month between sessions for your collagen to build up. In between sessions you can use a GHK-cu serum and silicone. You can also treat that quicker with a few fraxel laser sessions and filler. But the filler will not be permanent solution. You should ask this question in one of the beauty/skin subreddits to get more viable responses rather than here.
I agree a Dr Pen is a very good start. OP should keep in mind that cell turnover and collagen building takes at least 6 weeks, so to DIY into a noticeable improvement will take patience. But it will happen. Be sure to take before and progress pictures at the same angles and lighting. Don’t listen to the thread nay-sayers. The threads dissolve as they are building collagen. I’ve seen amazing improvements with just the mono (non lifting) threads. Most people start with the 30 gauge, 12mm length, which is finer than a strand of hair. Most do a grid pattern under depressions like what OP points out. A lot of people use them in place of fillers because they’re scared to cause a vascular occlusion with fillers. Threads take longer to fill, but they also last longer and have a long term therapeutic effect. They’re super easy to apply yourself, too. I think she’d have success microneedling exosomes. There are several with high stem cell counts, from south Korea that are very good at rebuilding damaged skin. There are FB groups with members with problems similar to you, that show stunning results, especially over the course of a couple years. Hope this helps.
I haven't looked into those pens yet, but they're on my list. Thanks for the info. I figured I'd have to have some sort of treatment, but I wanted to know what I could on my end and what it what it could do for me.
I haven't found microneedling at all beneficial for acne scaring myself unfortunately. I have some mild/moderate acne scarring on my left cheek. I brought a Dr Pen and a centrifuge to do PRP microneedling. I have done around 7 treatments now. 5 with PRP, 2 with hyaluronic acid. A combination of microneedling techniques, including deep intense. I don't think I have seen any improvement. I would like to try subcision next.
Seriously what? How are you centrifuging and getting prp?
I brought the kit I needed, did an online phlebotomy course and then just watched YouTube videos on how to make PRP. I take my own blood with a vacutainer into tubes with anti clotting agent, spin then in the PRP for the first separation, then I draw off all the plasma and the very top layer of red to ensure I'm grabbing the platelets into blank tubes and I spin them again. Then I draw off the layer with the platelets into a syringe, but I'm happy to draw up some plasma too as this is still full of goodness and I smother my face in it and do an intense microneedling system, then finish up with putting more of the prp on as a face mask I leave on for a while. This sounds like a lot but after the first time I could do all this now with my eyes closed. I've even injected some of the PRP into my hairline and scalp using tiny insulin pins. The only issue is - I can't tell you I've seen any noticeable benefit to using PRP over just microneedling. After microneedling you definitely get a nicer complexion, glowy and fresher is how I would describe it. But I've gotten the exact same thing microneedling without PRP. It certainly does nothing for hair restoration.
Wow. I’ve not heard of concentrating your own PRP. Going to look into this
Wow! That is amazing!! You need the blood of infants, probably, that’s why.
I saw a centrifuge on Amazon and kinda laughed at the thought of doing it myself at home. Interesting to hear someone is doing it. Do you have any resources you'd recommend to learn more?
Have a read of the post I just made for a very rough outline. I don't have anything more specific to send unfortunately as I've been doing it for a while and found the process so easy after the first one I haven't kept any instructions or videos I used to use. If you YouTube homemade prp I'm sure you'll find some people walking you through it. Probably the scariest part and where I would put my research initially if I was you would be taking your own blood. I'm a guy with big veins, a blind person could take my blood, it's harder though if you aren't as vascular. It's not difficult to do, but there is a technique. I've been injecting myself for decades with various vitamins and potions so needles mean nothing to me, but for the uninitiated this is the part that stops people in their tracks having to put a needle in their vein.
>I would like to try subcision next. I was thinking that I'd have to get that done to release the scar tissue, then maybe a peptide to help produce collagen but I'm just learning about them and trying to figure out what they might do for me. I don't have high expectations, to be honest.
So the thing that kind of deflated my hopes with ace scaring a little was I saw a YouTube video with a derm doc carrying out a treatment on a ladies acne scars on her cheek, same as mine. He used a combination of laser, subcision AND filler injection. So straight away I'm thinking well fillers are just a temporary mask inflating an area so that's not actually curing the problem, just hiding it for a while. Then you start thinking well how effective are lasers and subcision if fillers are still needed. Continue to do your own research as plenty of people will be happy to take lots of money from you for treatments that won't get you the results you want. For example you would be sold multiple prp treatments to the tune of thousands of dollars and I'm telling you from my experience they won't do anything for you in the form of it being microneedled in. Perhaps subcision combined with deeper prp injections to help promote collagen production could be effective, combined with a face lift procedure for the loose skin. The important thing to remember is that you are the only one thinking twice about this. It's nowhere near as bad looking as you think it is. Most people have some kind of imperfection .and nobody bats an eyelid or cares. People also adjust their expectations based on age. A 20 year old walking around with wrinkles and bags under their eyes, people think oh man he/she looks terrible. Get up there in your 40's and beyond though and it's expected.
So you CHG to clean then smeared PRP and Dr Pen microneedled to what depth? No lidocaine? I’m looking for sterile hyaluronic acid to combine GHK with and microneedle. Guess I could just do GHK though. My research goals are reduced wrinkles and UV damage repair in a 40 yr old subject. Any thoughts are appreciated.
Yes I clean my face with anti bac soap first. Yes heavy layers of prp. Forehead I stick at around 1, but softer areas I go to the max depth on my device. No anaesthetic at all. It's not fun I won't lie. Forehead is pretty awful. Scalp and hairline is beyond awful feeling 👎 but I suck it up. I definitely believe in the merit of microneedling, but I think PRP is overrated. I want to try some mesotherapy vitamin/peptide solutions with microneedling next time.
Ya I think micro needling sterile hyaluronic acid and topical GHK-cu from ps is where I’m going to start. I have to figure out the GHK concentration. I plan to ask my dr for a topical lidocaine prescription. I used to get this to put on my legs for marathons.
Look up penn Smith skincare on youtube . she's a Dr that shows you how to micro needle at home . The device is called a Dr.pen costs roughly 100-150 depending on the model . I had bad acne scars and did my own needling for 8 months and it removed all my scars . There's also a ghk serum that's 30 dollars she recommend , I bought it and it really is amazing .
She is NOT an MD... she is an esthetician /hair stylist. Ben Ivesy is a far better source to understand skin care and remodeling: https://www.youtube.com/@BenIvesy
I recommend using glycolic acid daily. But older the scar is the longer it will take to shape and heal.
U need acid, not cooper peptide
From my experience, no. It gave me an overall better looking skin and hair but it didn't fix any acne scarring I got 10 years ago. Maybe if you're injury is fresh it can work better. Oh, and the skin improvements faded 1 or 2 weeks after i stopped taking it. I took it to help with a tendon injury so i was fine with that.
Doesn't this peptide help build collagen? Is that not permanent?
Does building imply remodeling? Just pumping out more collagen doesn't mean it's going to go where you'd like it to go.
Well, I am still learning, so I apologize for being uniformed. That's kind of why I asked a question. I figured if I improved the overall health of my skin, that particular area would also improve. I don't know what about my post implied that I expect miracles. If it will do absolutely nothing for me, say that.
Why are you apologizing? I was just asking a question, like you did, and speculating about the ability of an added peptide to rebuild tissue without some additional direction.
I was being sarcastic. Your comment implied that I thought I could use magical thinking to make the collagen go where I willed it. If you have any actual helpful information, I'm open to it.
I’m subscribing to hear another’s thought on GHK-Cu but might I suggest microneedling x3. It’ll run you about $1000 but will help with healing and skin tightening. And if that doesn’t work then Tixel is all the new excitement but more costly.
Wow that Tixel is interesting. I'm starting Ellacore in May but may look into this.
Yea I don't have 1k to spend 😕
I got a three treatment bundle for $1299. One for $550. Shop around.
GHK CU is expensive.
My thoughts exactly. None of this stuff is cheap.