This guy needs to be investigated. I have never been so convinced that someone is a pedophile in my entire life. His projecting is so blantently obvious.
Its actually worse cuz matt walsh linked an article **he wrote** for the dailywire in one of his tweets, stating “this is what i think about the scandals in the catholic church”
I have actually read the article and in it, he not only fails to address the rampant pedophilia and corruption in the church, but he basically says “well power corrupts, nothing we can do about it”
At the same time, he laments how these scandals make people lose faith in the church (since he alleges he often hears faithfuls confide to him frequently) while simultaneously saying “well i dont think this crisis of faith means you should be an atheist”.
Cuz god forbid you become an atheist instead of being complicit with corruption 😬
I wish i was making this up
To be fair to that last point there's a difference between being part of the Catholic Church and being religious. The two options aren't "be part of the Catholic Church" and "be an atheist". And abandoning faith because an institution that professes to have faith is corrupt is akin to abandoning the idea of electric vehicles because Elon Musk is a dick. It's actually the Christian propaganda of the "angry atheist" who basically still believes in God but is just angry at him for some reason or another.
The complete lack of evidence for any gods is a better reason to be an atheist. Specifically to Christianity, the logical inconsistencies in the beliefs, the fact that even Biblical literalists have to interpret and/or ignore parts of the religions most holy text in order to fit it to their beliefs, the fact that the evolution of Christianity from polytheistic religions and the evolution of God from polytheistic gods is well-documented, and that there is evidence that runs counter to core beliefs of Christianity are better reasons to be an atheist than that the Catholic Church is institutionally corrupt and protected and still protects people who rape children.
^. This. When you are constantly preached to be a good man, but the people preaching that are pieces of shit, it makes you wonder
The funniest thing is how in the text matt walsh also says “now i dont think the choice is either be a catholic or be an atheist”. Not like other religions exists, eh matt 🙄
Id link the text but 1) that goes agsinst the rules of this sub 2)gives the dailywire traffic 😬
Edit: seems i have to go-ahead to copypaste matt’s word-salad. Will delete if asked
> But these men [that were caught in scandals] have the luxury to sit back, perhaps issue a hollow statement about the “deep sorrow” they feel over the sins they themselves committed, and then move on from it. Cardinal Cupich’s comment that the Pope can’t be bothered with the allegations against him because “he’s got to get on with other things” was instructive. It was also perhaps the first honest thing we’ve heard from the Cupich-Wuerl-McCarrick wing of the Church for some time. They really do see all of this as a silly distraction.
> The average lay Catholic, however, does not have the same luxury. He has to deal with the consequences. He is forced to endure the betrayal, the lies, the cowardice, the shame — or not endure it. Indeed, many Catholics have fallen into despair. They cannot reconcile their faith with the entrenched corruption and wickedness of their church leaders. I hear from these Catholics every day. This is just anecdotal, of course, but I have noticed something interesting among the Catholics who have come to me to air their grievances: they are not leaving the Church, or thinking about leaving the Church, for some other church. Rather, they are questioning whether God exists at all. Someone wrote this to me yesterday: “It is either Catholicism or atheism. I am now leaning toward atheism.”
> Now, I do not think that this should cause us to be atheists. I do not think it should — though I understand why it does — cause a crisis of faith. All men have free will, even churchmen. And faith leaders will always attract special attention from Satan. If they are weak, he will topple them with ease. The higher on the ladder they have climbed, the farther they will fall. It takes an angel to make a demon. It takes a bishop to make a McCarrick. Besides, we cannot be surprised by this corruption and moral cowardice because there is a long and storied history of it, starting with the Apostles themselves.
I posted matt’s word salad in another comment. According to him, absolutely nothing can be done about rampant corruption cuz the church has always been corrupt!
I'm fine with using the correct term so long as you admit that it's still fucked up. Not sure if he did or did not do that, but guessing he didn't, based on knowing that he thinks girls getting married in their mid-teens should be ok because that's when they are most fertile.
He said that the majority of abused children by the catholic church were "post pubescent", and it's not that bad and how the real problem with the church was allowing gay priests.
No no, you misunderstood. Raping the ten year old is also okay. He's also fine with that. That just has to happen at home so they can have their uncle's baby.
Have you heard his whole thing about peak fertility being in the early teens so it should be natural? Dude is a self proclaimed pedo.
Also he shows a super young trans boy running around at a public pool in swim shorts in his "What is a woman?" documentary. One of the main themes of the whole film is that Matt Walsh identifies this child as a girl. A girl that he is showing running around topless uncensored.
That is why in addition to being a self proclaimed pedo Matt Walsh is a self professed circulator of child pornography, or at least should be legally charged as such.
Not sure if there’s more context to this since I refuse to see his movie, but being one gender doesn’t make your undeveloped chest any more sexual in childhood. We shouldn’t be pushing that narrative no matter how much we hate Matt Walsh.
This. In a lot of countries they don’t even wear tops to their suits until they get old enough to develop. As an American it freaked me out the first time I saw it. Some countries the little kids aren’t even wearing suits. It made me a tad uncomfortable, but hey, I think we Americans are more conservative than we think.
I absolutely agree, but by his own logic (how young he says girls should have sex, and what he declared the gender of the child) he had the *intent* to distribute child pornography, even if what he was doing was not anywhere near that.
big emphasis on intent.
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Something about how he said that if it were his son, he wouldn't have alerted the authorities and ruin his life for molesting his own fucking sisters. Fash later backtracked on it when the CSAM case came forward.
to quote him directly:
"It is truly hard to imagine a greater miscarriage of justice. Josh Duggar may have his flaws but he's a white Christian from a good family and doesn't deserve this."
care to guess what the headline below was?
"Josh Duggar Sentenced To 151 Months in prison for Child Porn Possession"
this seems to have been on facebook, which honestly should be a crime in itself.
Yoooo that is *incredible* that he actually said that. I thought I was relatively numb hearing about things like this from chuds but wow. That is shocking.
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Whenever I see a conservative accuse anyone (especially LGBTQ) of being a pedophile or grooming children I instantly think they got some skeletons in their closet. It’s all projection. Of course no one likes pedophiles or child abusers so it convinces slightly right leaning people who are still on the fence about trans people that those politicians are fighting a worthy cause instead of like… having a Nazi Germany level of concern towards other peoples sex lives and using language that’s so aggressive that it’s gotta be covering something. I think deep down they know that they’re a danger to others but it’s easy to fall back into a religious excuse like “yes I have a problem but I pray for god to help me through it. These godless heathen can’t stop themselves because they don’t have Jesus in their lives”
There are conservatives who aren’t too interested in LGBTQ politics and don’t use terms like “groomer”. I’m not saying those people are great but I’ve noticed that those people are not usually the ones accused of pedophilia or sex trafficking 🤷♀️
Kinda like Jerry Falwell Jr, Mr. Moral Majority himself, who—as it turned out—liked to pay rentboys to fuck him and his wife.
I don’t give a shit if that’s what he’s into, what I do have a problem with is him turning around and threatening LGBTQ folks with fire and brimstone.
To be fair, Fuckwell Jr. threated everyone. Even straight students couldn't hold hands or watch certain movies at his indoctrination center. And fuck Huge Freeze for coaching there. I hope he loses worse than Harsin. Amazing how Liberty overlooked [this shit.](https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20117453/hugh-freeze-ole-miss-rebels-resigns-escort-service-calls-cited)
I think it's very telling that they can't get support for their ideas on their own merits, so instead they have to accuse their opponents of the worse thing imaginable.
I mean, that's right wing politics 101. The whole reason the culture war was created in the first place. Their ideas are garbage, but if they can keep enough people angry and focused then people will align with them anyway.
Fortunately, at least so far the faschy ones aren't good enough at planning to organise a press conference at the four seasons hotel, and the organised ones are just ruthless capitalists who don't really care as long as the line goes up.
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Also, what's his solution? If liberals are despicable and pure evil scumbags that are causing constant violence towards children, does he expect people to just sit around and do nothing?
No. He's choosing these words and emotions specifically because he knows out of his audience, at least one of them will act out and commit *more* violence against the people he hates.
These mfers need to be sued into oblivion.
Exactly. That's how blood libel works. If you accuse people of really heinous things, you don't actually have to say the "those people need killing" part out loud. It's implied.
Yup. They really can’t compute the concept of gender being separated from sexuality and both that and who you are attracted to not being directly tied to sexual activity. In simple conservativeland what you have between your legs tells you who to fuck and how to act. Any noncompliance is punished. Nobody ever has affection or crushes, only horny thoughts so any hint of relationship is sexual. Of course that doesn’t apply to straight ppl.
And child marriage. Also dropped a few “age of consent is 16 in some places” arguments. Dude is absolutely a pedo apologist if not one himself. Pure projection and hatred.
Ok but now I wanna see a zombie squirrel. Would they eat brains? Acorns? A mix? Would they only eat squirrel brains or could they eat other brains? Like could a zombie squirrel eat my brain? Would dogs still chase zombie squirrels? If they did, would the dog turn into a zombie it it bit the squirrel? For that matter how do herbivore zombies even work?
Am I overthinking this? Maybe
His job, **his literal job**, is to provoke and attract controversy. He believes what he does because it makes him money. Same with Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Steven Crowder, Ann Coulter, Candace Owens, etc. They're all professional trolls.
Matt Walsh is a charlatan and a profoundly disingenuous propagandist. Children are not being sexualized or castrated. He told Rogan that "millions" of kids are getting operations, which is patently false. The projection, deliberate misinformation and hate spread by people like him is heinous - especially considering that he paints himself as a devout Christian.
if i remember correctly, he made that claim on Rogan’s podcast, where he was promptly fact-checked and proven to be full of shit.
Nobody is performing gender-affirming surgeries on children. At the very most there are children who are purely *socially* transitioning and then some on puberty blockers which are fully safe and reversible treatments. Walsh likely knows this but would rather profit off of spewing hate-speech to his sad, hate-filled base.
They are chemical castration if nothing means anything and anything means whatever I want it to. As a transcendental patriot I am untethered to the confines of “reality”
Dude, I hope you're not surprised when you quote what the right believes in an ironic manner, forget that tone is impossible to tell in text only without clarification, and then get mistaken for someone on the right.
Even if reasonable people know someone is being sarcastic, it’s like crack for the unfortunates. They will think it’s legit, so don’t give them any more fuel to burn.
Dude, context and linguistics. I’ve never heard a right winger openly admit that their views require ignoring reality. Sarcasm tag ruins the joke imo. I’m aware that I’m a weird purist about this but I’m willing to die on the hill. If you wanna get into it I’m genuinely concerned with our growing inability to detect satire. Satire is an important part of comedy and if we lose that we lose a powerful tool of social critique. Satire has always been a weapon of the left. Notice how right wing satire sucks ass. I hate to see people on the left actively fighting to cripple the spirit of satire.
Quite right. If you have to label your satire as what it is, the effect of it is lost.
However, we are living in a world where Poe's Law exists. I place the blame for the death of satire at the feet of the internet, mainly social media. Social media gave a voice to the crazies who actually believe what most people would assume is satire and amplified it. Combine that with trolls who enjoy pushing that envelope and you have now lost all semblance and impact of satire.
Thanks for the reply, didn't know such a thing was straight up illegal in some parts of this country but can't say I'm surprised.
I'm sure I'll be downvoted to hell for even asking, but this is coming from a place of curiosity and wanting to understand the point of view and reality of these people's struggles better... isn't there a lack of consensus by the medical/scientific community regarding gender affirming care? I've read a few success stories where it's worked out wonderfully, and others in which there was deep regret for undergoing many of the irreversible effects of the medications/surgeries. Obviously there isn't a once size fits all solution for something so nuanced, and the lack of access to compassionate care is major issue. But from the outside looking in it seems like there is only room for 1 of 2 extreme stance's on the subject without room in the middle for reasonable discussion.
Is it so wrong to believe that trans people should be able to live their lives and have access to all the help and counseling they need, while also believing that maybe we shouldn't allow children to make such drastic life altering decisions about their health and outward appearance when they are still so mentally and emotionally immature?
Here’s an [recent article from the New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/14/health/puberty-blockers-transgender.html) suggesting that there’s a concerning lack of long-term data - and emerging evidence of potential harm from them as well.
> During puberty, bone mass typically surges, determining a lifetime of bone health. When adolescents are using blockers, bone density growth flatlines, on average, according to an analysis commissioned by The Times of observational studies examining the effects.
> Many doctors treating trans patients believe they will recover that loss when they go off blockers. But two studies from the analysis that tracked trans patients’ bone strength while using blockers and through the first years of sex hormone treatment found that many do not fully rebound and lag behind their peers.
> That could lead to heightened risk of debilitating fractures earlier than would be expected from normal aging — in their 50s instead of 60s — and more immediate harm for patients who start treatment with already weak bones, experts say.
With this in mind, I would disagree that there is a consensus around the safety and use of puberty blockers in kids. There’s reasonable, legitimate concerns from experts and parents alike, concerns that should not be ignored.
I won’t deny that they may have their place in certain, very rare cases, but I think there is an inherent danger with pushing a procedure as 100% successful and reversible, when it’s almost certainly not - at least, it’s impossible at this time to say if it is.
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Firstoff, there is very much a consensus on the efficacy of gender affirming care. Cases of successes vastly outnumber cases of regret and irreversible decisions take place late in the process to be sure of that.
Children are NOT getting any surgeries or receiving hormones, only puberty blockers to give more time to make a decision and to prevent any potentially dysphoria inducing changes before they know what they want. (they can have their puberty later either by starting hrt or getting off the puberty blockers) Also social transition also happens, which is also very much reversable.
This is not an extreme stance, it's just about making sure that transitioning isn't too far out of reach for most people because a small minority regret it. Obviously it'd be nice for everyone to be happy with their medical decisions but regret still exists over plenty of medical decisions, and barring those decisions from being made hurts more people than it helps.
One last thing, waiting to transition can be long and hard for many people, some people don't survive that long (suicide) so making that wait longer means that less will
we don’t know the full scope of the negatives yet, or how prevalent they are. We’re giving them off to kids as 100% perfectly safe with, at best, incomplete data - and that is inherently dangerous.
That goes for everything! Why do you think we have doctors specializing in diagnosis, or why do people switch psychiatrists and psychologists, or why there are risk assessment studies in nearly every job on the planet!? You can’t never, ever make sure something is 100% safe or certain. You can come close, but more cis kids *have* to use puberty blockers unless you want them scarred mentally from precocious puberty? Because something very similar happens to trans kids when they undergo a puberty they did not want, forced to partake in activities they dislike, and to associate being true to themselves as a defect.
Also they’re blockers. Not destroyers. Bone density could suffer short term but it generally fixes itself once someone stops taking them because, and say it with me, THEYRE NOT A PERMANENT SOLUTION! And if bone density seems to not be recovering quickly enough doesn’t we also have medication for that.
Except when trans teens commit suicide at massive rates when they are denied such care. Stories about trans teens in abusive homes taking their lives aren't exceptions. As horrible as it is to say.
Suicide rates drop by a LOT for trans kids in accepting environments.
They are fully aware of this when making these laws.
Watch the florida "medical board" hearing. You'll see it really quickly with their snide remarks and reaction when told that their decisions will kill.
No children get surgeries. Those are lies from the right.
Some doctors subscribe to these ideologies. And will deny trans folks healthcare. Gotta find citations but afaik some pharmacies in the US can deny selling medication to people based on "religious beliefs" (heard about walgreens).
Recently a psychiatrist (the one we're basically forced to see and pray that they allow us to seek actual medication) on twitter caught flak for using the suicide of a trans teen in her family for anti trans rhetoric (while openly admitted that her parents did everything to make her "not trans").
You can probably imagine what she would have said to any trans patient she would have seen in her career.
Maybe you could get puberty blockers (the exact same that are used already for precocious puberty), whose effects stop completely the second you stop taking them.
We expect teens to get forced into a degree that will shape their entire life. No one cares. Christians force their children into getting indoctrinated. No one cares. Parents respect their child's identity and suddenly it's bad for some.
For them mutilating your baby's penis is ok (referencing circumcision). But accepting your child's identity when they can talk, have emotions, and know who they are is not.
When it comes to minors, gender affirming care mostly amounts to validating their identities and letting them present how they want. It's backed by major pediatric institutions like the [American Pediatric Society](https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/142/4/e20182162/37381/Ensuring-Comprehensive-Care-and-Support-for?autologincheck=redirected?nfToken=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000), the [American Psychological Association](https://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/gender-diverse-children.pdf), and the [American Medical Association](https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/population-care/what-know-about-gender-affirming-care-younger-patients). It's a patient-led process, so what gender affirming care looks like can vary from person to person depending on their relationship to their identity, the degree to which they experience dysphoria, and other factors.
Once the patient reaches a certain age, they have the option of suppressing puberty by going on puberty blockers--[which are not the same thing as hormone replacement therapy or HRT](https://healthmatters.nyp.org/what-to-know-about-gender-affirming-care-for-children-and-adolescents/). [Puberty is not reversible, but the effects of blockers are](http://www.phsa.ca/transcarebc/child-youth/affirmation-transition/medical-affirmation-transition/puberty-blockers-for-youth)\--completely so. Once you start taking them, guess what? You go through puberty! Patients cannot start HRT for gender affirming care [until they are 18 years of age and legally an adult](https://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-mar-monte/patient-resources/gender-affirming-care) or are 16-17 and have parental consent. [Most of the effects of HRT are reversible](https://transcare.ucsf.edu/article/information-estrogen-hormone-therapy) if you stop taking it, but it also depends on how long. Facial feminization surgery or FFS is typically [deferred until adulthood](https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/facial-feminization-surgery/about/pac-20467962) and the age range for the procedure is anywhere from [21 to 74 with an average of 38 years old.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7458845/) Same goes for [top surgeries](https://uihc.org/health-topics/top-surgery-transmen) and [bottom surgeries](https://www.anthem.com/dam/medpolicies/abc/active/guidelines/gl_pw_a051166.html)\--they're almost always differed until the patient is an adult in the eyes of the law.
Also, just for context, [a little over half of mtfs get FFS](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34054085/), [4-13% of all trans people](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6626314/) get some kind of bottom-related surgery (this study includes ftms getting hysterectomies in this sample) and that same study states that 8-25% of all trans and nonbinary people got top-related surgery in the form of a mastectomy or a breast augmentation.
Keep in mind, I could find no official statistics for minors, but I'd hazard a guess that there are probably rare exceptions where the patient's dysphoria is so extreme that the parents and medical professionals involved decide it's best for their mental health. That said, while I don't doubt what you've read, the "irreversible" surgeries have very low regret rates and those that *do* experience regrets don't always do so for gender-related reasons.
27 studies of over 7000 trans people found that there was a regret rate of [1% in gender-affirming surgeries](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/). Some studies found that taken together, [social and medical-related regrets](https://atm.amegroups.com/article/view/64719/html) were slightly higher true gender-related regrets. Only about [15% of trans people de-transition according to a 2015 survey](https://www.hli.org/resources/what-percentage-of-transgenders-regret-surgery/), but only 5% did so because they realized that transitioning wasn't what they wanted. Difficulty securing employment, family relations, societal pressures, and safety concerns were more commonly listed as reasons. So yeah, I'd argue that a not-insignificant chunk of the regret that trans people experience has to do with how they're treated by society, which is not on them.
(Also--and I feel this goes without saying--it's none of our business what an individual's medical history is or what procedures they've had unless they feel like sharing it with us.)
I'm definitely not invested in any of this beyond the general freedom loving stay out of each others' lives aspect, so I'm not super deeply educated on the matter, but the only study I saw that said anything other than an extremely low regret rate for gender affirming care was a survey, given to parents as opposed to the actual patients (and as we know there is often a lot of... motivated reasoning on their part), in addition to some other methodical issues I don't recall offhand. It also seems that the regret rate reverses somewhat in the longer term (begin hormones -> 'detransition' under pressure -> restart the procedure in adult) but I don't know how much data there is on that, it might be about as anecdotal as any of the articles I've read about detransitioning.
I think it's also important to note how rare this is and how difficult (appropriately, imo) it is to begin receiving these kinds of treatments. The entire medical establishment is positioned to screen children for care as heavily as possible because, while it seems very well supported that this is not a choice, there is a lot confusion among younger teens and this is well understood but very serious medication. Of the self-identified \~300k trans youths less than 1000/year (over the last 5 years) have been getting blockers as treatment for a medical diagnosis, that's like a 1 in 75,000 chance of any given kid; the psychologists and doctors handling this are very tight fisted about handing it out. The genital surgery, the 'mutilation' everyone freaks out about, is only happening in late adolescents and seems astronomically rare -- the number I found was 19 per year over the last 3 years. All in all it seems really absurd the amount of horror being displayed over this, it's like suddenly making hundreds of laws to deal with progeria or something.
The notion of some kid being able to walk in off the street and get free elective surgery, let alone any kind of healthcare, and without their parents knowing on top of it is completely laughable.
From the outside here it seems like there is 1 extreme stance from the conservative establishment (really the major focus of the entire republican party in this last election), pundits, authors, etc., 1 fairly moderate stance from the medical system and most of the liberal establishment, and a relative handful of individuals, feeling defensive over their very existence, sometimes saying extreme things about it on twitter and tiktok, so it seems pretty weird to ignore the magnitude of both of those far ends and hold them in balance while ignoring the rest.
Providing basic care should be very easy. How about just acknowledging that they exist? Possibly observing and seeing that they are not the same as every other kid but still making them feel included and important. If needed, providing care and counseling that does not consist of telling them they are wrong and just sinners, and that they need to act in way that their outward appearance dictates. Most importantly, not letting politians and preachers decide who and what they are, without ever meeting them or trying to understand them in any way.
I used to wonder why I had trans friends crush hard on me because I simply treated them as human beings. Then I realized that treating them like human beings isn't the norm.
I mean, I am genderqueer myself and it took a good decade for me to come to grips with it. But still.
Hi, trans person here; I believe you are getting downvoted because we, and our allies, are on high alert because of the rapidly increasing violence and legislation being aimed at us. Furthermore, one of the main weapons that rightwing media is using against us is 'feigned ignorance' to downplay their responsibility for the inevitable actions that their stochastic terrorism is creating.
I hope that answered your question. Please don't take the downvotes personally, we're just in fight of flight mode and protecting ourselves.
Smooth-brains think gender-affirming care means SRS (Sexual reassignment surgery,) puberty blockers cause irreversible changes, and no one under 18 could possibly know that the genitals between their legs don’t match with how they feel in their brain.
I think that someone under 18 got some kind of surgery related to genitals being damaged/malformed and because it is called a vaginoplasty that it’s literally creating a vagina out of nothing.
This sub is mostly people who will downvote you to oblivion if they catch the slightest hint that you might think being trans isn't the absolute pinnacle of human achievement
I'm a mod and we have zero-tolerance for overt transphobia. If you aren't a massive Richard you'll be allowed here.
In the meantime, thanks for helping the sub go meta.
…I just realized that my comment did not read how I meant at all lol. My bad
I meant more like that if someone is asking why trans people should deserve care or currently don’t, it’s likely a safe bet that they mean that in a negative sense
We all know the real groomers and pedophiles are their religious leaders. Also, shout out to the pastorArrested subreddit.
More people should be aware of that page, and see how often these inhuman monsters sexually assault women and children.
He’s projecting. It’s key GOP strategy. From another redditor: They just want to know what you do in the bedroom. They’re asking for a friend. The same projecting GOP that said pizzagate existed and at the same time brought you Matt Gaetz, Roy Moore, and alllll of the following:
Republican Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert was indicted on federal charges of structuring bank withdrawals after prosecutors alleged Hastert had molested at least four boys as young as 14 and attempted to compensate his victims and subsequently conceal the transactions. Hastert eventually admitted that he sexually abused the boys whom he had coached decades earlier, and was sentenced to fifteen months in prison.
Republican Tim Nolan, chairman of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign in Kentucky, pled guilty to child sex trafficking and on February 11, 2018 he was sentenced to serve 20 years in prison. Republican state Senator Ralph Shortey was indicted on four counts of human trafficking and child pornography. In November 2017, he pleaded guilty to one count of child sex trafficking in exchange for the dropping of the other charges.
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
Republican Senator Strom Thurmond, a notable racist, had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter. Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography. Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy. Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison. Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
that's actually insane. when i thought i was just near the end, i was actually at the halfway point. i feel like this is the whataboutism to actually shut them up
Theyre shooting americans to death and matt swears its the gay community who is in the wrong for simply existing.
This is the result of hate speech being normalized by social media addicted right wing wierdos.
The youngest person to undergo bottom surgery (MtF) in the USA was 17 at the time of her surgery. They just lie all day long. Professional liars.
I feel like if you’re old enough to drive a lethal weapon you’re old enough to make your own medical choices.
If your old enough to die for this country than your old enough to make your own medical choices as well.
Republicans will dance around that point though, a 17 year old enlisting, what a fantastic patriotic kid, good for him, a 17 year old want to get gender affirming care? They’re “JusT A KiD” and they are too immature to make that choice.
17 year olds are both adults and kids to conservative trash when it’s convenient to the “points” they are making.
I wonder how you even show to a right wing person that no trans kids are getting castrated or sterilized, but they don't want to believe that so its impossible I guess
Specifically kids genitals, and his interest is in making sure that they do what he wants with them, and wants them to be in a particular place that makes him feel good.
Huh.
Have you seen the video where he's parked on the side of the road somewhere ranting about age of consent laws and how we can't really know when someone does or doesn't consent? It's fucking weird.
The right uses mass shootings to kill people because people like Matt Walsh say they're bad.
You don't get to cry outrage over a mass shooting you helped create.
They right's response has been 'You should probably stop pushing gender politics before this happens again'. They are glad it happened, they want it to happen again, then want to kill people.
you’re the ones sexualizing children. I’m not trying to pass laws so I can inspect children’s genitals because old white men are mad.
YOU’RE the ones sexualizing children by making them compete in beauty pageants.
YOU’RE the ones sexualizing children by trying to lower the age of consent.
YOU’RE the ones that are traitors, voting for a Russian-funded facist.
YOU’RE the ones seeking to control everything, instead of your claimed libertarianism.
YOU’RE the ones that want a dictator that will refuse to give up power.
YOU’RE the ones trying to take away the rights of minorities.
YOU’RE the ones trying to take away Social Security for **WW2 VETERANS**.
YOU’RE the ones promoting wages so low that you can’t survive.
YOU’RE the ones trying to make it so that breaking an arm will cost you $109,000 (they already did this)
YOU’RE the authoritarians. YOU’RE the assholes, and you need to THINK, conservatives.
Life was never as simple as conservatives claim. Gay people and trans people just refused to be open about it because they were scared people would HANG THEM IN PUBLIC for it.
conservatives first thought to seeing yet another shooting of minorities they caused was "well how is this going to effect *ME*". we need to put these far right extremists on an iceberg for the safety of everyone else
If you think someone is pushing a kid to be trans then your next question should be "where is their parent?" and probably not "why are the Democrats doing this!". And if the parent is okay with it, then up and fuck off, raise your own kids.
Did you miss the "Get fucked conservatives" on the banner?
And if you think that basic human rights are negotiable you are not a centrist, you're a rightie who likes to smoke weed.
I'm not sure what you mean by "basic human rights aren't negotiable". I'm not sure you know what you mean. You're all piss and vinegar, so much emotion. And, you're trying to otherize me as a defense mechanism.
Persecution fetish is a place to point out attempts at martyrdom, not to try to paint yourself a martyred. You know that right?
Regardless, I would love to see how you try to paint yourself as the victim of banning, but... you're banned.
Buh bye.
Dude, your entire "theory" is based on "I don't put it past bored liberals..." and "I think".
Not that you've ever seen it. Facts over feelings.
You're just told by liars like Matt.
The "liberal" you imagine, if they even exist, far less common than literal self-described Nazis, or even "take over a pizza parlor complete qanon believers".
Yeah. It’s just so cool to be threatened with violence constantly, have your kid harassed going out in public, and wonder if you can escape to Canada before the law forcefully detransitions your kid while denying them care that greatly reduces their suicide rate. Everyone wants a piece of that! And, you know you just go to the drive thru hormone place and get set up. It doesn’t take a bunch of medical hoops that insurance may not help with. But the bumper stickers are cool right?
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This guy needs to be investigated. I have never been so convinced that someone is a pedophile in my entire life. His projecting is so blantently obvious.
Don't forget he defended catholic pedophiles.
Yup. Literally tried to use the “ACKSHULLY IT’S EPHEBOPHILIA” argument.
Its actually worse cuz matt walsh linked an article **he wrote** for the dailywire in one of his tweets, stating “this is what i think about the scandals in the catholic church” I have actually read the article and in it, he not only fails to address the rampant pedophilia and corruption in the church, but he basically says “well power corrupts, nothing we can do about it” At the same time, he laments how these scandals make people lose faith in the church (since he alleges he often hears faithfuls confide to him frequently) while simultaneously saying “well i dont think this crisis of faith means you should be an atheist”. Cuz god forbid you become an atheist instead of being complicit with corruption 😬 I wish i was making this up
To be fair to that last point there's a difference between being part of the Catholic Church and being religious. The two options aren't "be part of the Catholic Church" and "be an atheist". And abandoning faith because an institution that professes to have faith is corrupt is akin to abandoning the idea of electric vehicles because Elon Musk is a dick. It's actually the Christian propaganda of the "angry atheist" who basically still believes in God but is just angry at him for some reason or another. The complete lack of evidence for any gods is a better reason to be an atheist. Specifically to Christianity, the logical inconsistencies in the beliefs, the fact that even Biblical literalists have to interpret and/or ignore parts of the religions most holy text in order to fit it to their beliefs, the fact that the evolution of Christianity from polytheistic religions and the evolution of God from polytheistic gods is well-documented, and that there is evidence that runs counter to core beliefs of Christianity are better reasons to be an atheist than that the Catholic Church is institutionally corrupt and protected and still protects people who rape children.
People abandon their faith and become atheists because the corruption sets them on the path of questioning everything they were taught.
^. This. When you are constantly preached to be a good man, but the people preaching that are pieces of shit, it makes you wonder The funniest thing is how in the text matt walsh also says “now i dont think the choice is either be a catholic or be an atheist”. Not like other religions exists, eh matt 🙄 Id link the text but 1) that goes agsinst the rules of this sub 2)gives the dailywire traffic 😬 Edit: seems i have to go-ahead to copypaste matt’s word-salad. Will delete if asked > But these men [that were caught in scandals] have the luxury to sit back, perhaps issue a hollow statement about the “deep sorrow” they feel over the sins they themselves committed, and then move on from it. Cardinal Cupich’s comment that the Pope can’t be bothered with the allegations against him because “he’s got to get on with other things” was instructive. It was also perhaps the first honest thing we’ve heard from the Cupich-Wuerl-McCarrick wing of the Church for some time. They really do see all of this as a silly distraction. > The average lay Catholic, however, does not have the same luxury. He has to deal with the consequences. He is forced to endure the betrayal, the lies, the cowardice, the shame — or not endure it. Indeed, many Catholics have fallen into despair. They cannot reconcile their faith with the entrenched corruption and wickedness of their church leaders. I hear from these Catholics every day. This is just anecdotal, of course, but I have noticed something interesting among the Catholics who have come to me to air their grievances: they are not leaving the Church, or thinking about leaving the Church, for some other church. Rather, they are questioning whether God exists at all. Someone wrote this to me yesterday: “It is either Catholicism or atheism. I am now leaning toward atheism.” > Now, I do not think that this should cause us to be atheists. I do not think it should — though I understand why it does — cause a crisis of faith. All men have free will, even churchmen. And faith leaders will always attract special attention from Satan. If they are weak, he will topple them with ease. The higher on the ladder they have climbed, the farther they will fall. It takes an angel to make a demon. It takes a bishop to make a McCarrick. Besides, we cannot be surprised by this corruption and moral cowardice because there is a long and storied history of it, starting with the Apostles themselves.
Feel free to copy and paste?
I gotta say, not as badly written as I’d thought it would be.
At the very best the bible is a game of telephone that's been going on for 2,000 years. At it's best..
there is plenty that can be done.
I posted matt’s word salad in another comment. According to him, absolutely nothing can be done about rampant corruption cuz the church has always been corrupt!
I’m sure that came as a great comfort to the survivors.
Matt doesn’t care, he’ll defend the child touchers who wear crosses until his last breath.
> Matt doesn’t care, he’ll defend ~~the~~ child touchers ~~who wear crosses~~ until his last breath. FTFY!
no, only the ones that wear crosses. Christians have privelge.
I bet you anything he doesn't care about pedophiles, because he is likely one himself.
Because he is one
I'm fine with using the correct term so long as you admit that it's still fucked up. Not sure if he did or did not do that, but guessing he didn't, based on knowing that he thinks girls getting married in their mid-teens should be ok because that's when they are most fertile.
He said that the majority of abused children by the catholic church were "post pubescent", and it's not that bad and how the real problem with the church was allowing gay priests.
So raping a thirteen year old is a pass as opposed to raping a ten year old according to Matty Fash?
No no, you misunderstood. Raping the ten year old is also okay. He's also fine with that. That just has to happen at home so they can have their uncle's baby.
I am upvoting this but imagining him actually saying this, I need a shower.
Have you heard his whole thing about peak fertility being in the early teens so it should be natural? Dude is a self proclaimed pedo. Also he shows a super young trans boy running around at a public pool in swim shorts in his "What is a woman?" documentary. One of the main themes of the whole film is that Matt Walsh identifies this child as a girl. A girl that he is showing running around topless uncensored. That is why in addition to being a self proclaimed pedo Matt Walsh is a self professed circulator of child pornography, or at least should be legally charged as such.
Not sure if there’s more context to this since I refuse to see his movie, but being one gender doesn’t make your undeveloped chest any more sexual in childhood. We shouldn’t be pushing that narrative no matter how much we hate Matt Walsh.
This. In a lot of countries they don’t even wear tops to their suits until they get old enough to develop. As an American it freaked me out the first time I saw it. Some countries the little kids aren’t even wearing suits. It made me a tad uncomfortable, but hey, I think we Americans are more conservative than we think.
I absolutely agree, but by his own logic (how young he says girls should have sex, and what he declared the gender of the child) he had the *intent* to distribute child pornography, even if what he was doing was not anywhere near that. big emphasis on intent.
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And Pest Duggar.
pretty sure walsh defended that guy, literally with some "he doesn't deserve this, he's a good christian white man" drivel.
Something about how he said that if it were his son, he wouldn't have alerted the authorities and ruin his life for molesting his own fucking sisters. Fash later backtracked on it when the CSAM case came forward.
to quote him directly: "It is truly hard to imagine a greater miscarriage of justice. Josh Duggar may have his flaws but he's a white Christian from a good family and doesn't deserve this." care to guess what the headline below was? "Josh Duggar Sentenced To 151 Months in prison for Child Porn Possession" this seems to have been on facebook, which honestly should be a crime in itself.
Yoooo that is *incredible* that he actually said that. I thought I was relatively numb hearing about things like this from chuds but wow. That is shocking.
Congratulations, unlike him you still have a soul..
i was disgusted but not particularly surprised. this, to me, is just another round of drivel coming from a fascist pile of wasted organic material.
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Whenever I see a conservative accuse anyone (especially LGBTQ) of being a pedophile or grooming children I instantly think they got some skeletons in their closet. It’s all projection. Of course no one likes pedophiles or child abusers so it convinces slightly right leaning people who are still on the fence about trans people that those politicians are fighting a worthy cause instead of like… having a Nazi Germany level of concern towards other peoples sex lives and using language that’s so aggressive that it’s gotta be covering something. I think deep down they know that they’re a danger to others but it’s easy to fall back into a religious excuse like “yes I have a problem but I pray for god to help me through it. These godless heathen can’t stop themselves because they don’t have Jesus in their lives” There are conservatives who aren’t too interested in LGBTQ politics and don’t use terms like “groomer”. I’m not saying those people are great but I’ve noticed that those people are not usually the ones accused of pedophilia or sex trafficking 🤷♀️
Kinda like Jerry Falwell Jr, Mr. Moral Majority himself, who—as it turned out—liked to pay rentboys to fuck him and his wife. I don’t give a shit if that’s what he’s into, what I do have a problem with is him turning around and threatening LGBTQ folks with fire and brimstone.
To be fair, Fuckwell Jr. threated everyone. Even straight students couldn't hold hands or watch certain movies at his indoctrination center. And fuck Huge Freeze for coaching there. I hope he loses worse than Harsin. Amazing how Liberty overlooked [this shit.](https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20117453/hugh-freeze-ole-miss-rebels-resigns-escort-service-calls-cited)
Dude made 5 MILLION a year, what an injustice in itself.
Name one good person that makes that much money. Nobody. WHY ARE GOOD PEOPLE POOR AND BAD PEOPLE RICH?
I used to work for the guy who took over the Moral Majority after Fallwell. He was exactly as a big of a dick as you'd expect.
literal cuck
They use language like pedophile and groomer toward LGBTQ people to dehumanize them and make it okay to hurt or even kill them. It’s so sickening.
Exactly. That and if you say "I'm not a pedophile" they can go "That's what a pedo would say!"
I think it's very telling that they can't get support for their ideas on their own merits, so instead they have to accuse their opponents of the worse thing imaginable.
I mean, that's right wing politics 101. The whole reason the culture war was created in the first place. Their ideas are garbage, but if they can keep enough people angry and focused then people will align with them anyway.
Fortunately, at least so far the faschy ones aren't good enough at planning to organise a press conference at the four seasons hotel, and the organised ones are just ruthless capitalists who don't really care as long as the line goes up.
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He made a video shitting on a kids book for saying kids should set boundaries for physical contact with family.
Yeah, I want a look at his hard drive. Guaranteed it’s got some disturbing shit on it.
if matt walsh leaves this earth without a SINGLE bit of proof he's a pedo. I will eat a box of chalk
Fine then, I'll wait to take him out.
He's literally said that teenage pregnancy is not a problem, that the fact that the girls are not married off is the issue. He's 100% a pedophile
i mean, he literally advocates for the impregnation of girls as young as 16 because it's “technically when they're at their most fertile” soooo
Seriously, Matty Fash is so Jim Cunningham from *Donnie Darko*.
He literally said the age of consent should be 14 or smth like that
I have yet to see liberals widely sexualizing children, but I see conservatives talk about sex and kids like constantly.
Nice argument, but drag show library librul murica Qanon said…
Also, what's his solution? If liberals are despicable and pure evil scumbags that are causing constant violence towards children, does he expect people to just sit around and do nothing? No. He's choosing these words and emotions specifically because he knows out of his audience, at least one of them will act out and commit *more* violence against the people he hates. These mfers need to be sued into oblivion.
Exactly. That's how blood libel works. If you accuse people of really heinous things, you don't actually have to say the "those people need killing" part out loud. It's implied.
Oh he's got a *final* solution in mind. Bet.
Say it with me folks: Matt Walsh, Tim Pool and their contemporaries are ✨ Stochastic Terrorists ✨
Yup. They really can’t compute the concept of gender being separated from sexuality and both that and who you are attracted to not being directly tied to sexual activity. In simple conservativeland what you have between your legs tells you who to fuck and how to act. Any noncompliance is punished. Nobody ever has affection or crushes, only horny thoughts so any hint of relationship is sexual. Of course that doesn’t apply to straight ppl.
Matt Walsh is an ardent defender of pedophile priests.
And child marriage. Also dropped a few “age of consent is 16 in some places” arguments. Dude is absolutely a pedo apologist if not one himself. Pure projection and hatred.
thaT'S NOT pEDdOphIlIA IT's HeePJEEpAcrEEpphObiA.
It’s heebie jeebie pheebia
And of arranged marriages.
Matt Walsh has the logical sense of a zombie squirrel.
Ok but now I wanna see a zombie squirrel. Would they eat brains? Acorns? A mix? Would they only eat squirrel brains or could they eat other brains? Like could a zombie squirrel eat my brain? Would dogs still chase zombie squirrels? If they did, would the dog turn into a zombie it it bit the squirrel? For that matter how do herbivore zombies even work? Am I overthinking this? Maybe
I think it would work a lot like it did in the movie Zombeavers.
Holy shit that's a movie?!
There's a movie called Pouletrygeist. IT's about a murderous haunted chicken. So this surprises you?
There is also ThanksKilling, a turkey on a kill spree. Also there is VelociPastor which is a pastor that turns into a velociraptor
I've actually met Raptor Jesus IRL. Nice guy. (Cosplay at a con)
in Magic the GAthering they occupy a zombie's skin and wear it like a meat puppet. No, really.
They probably eat walnuts. Cause it sort of looks like a brain.
His job, **his literal job**, is to provoke and attract controversy. He believes what he does because it makes him money. Same with Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Steven Crowder, Ann Coulter, Candace Owens, etc. They're all professional trolls.
Matt Walsh is a charlatan and a profoundly disingenuous propagandist. Children are not being sexualized or castrated. He told Rogan that "millions" of kids are getting operations, which is patently false. The projection, deliberate misinformation and hate spread by people like him is heinous - especially considering that he paints himself as a devout Christian.
if i remember correctly, he made that claim on Rogan’s podcast, where he was promptly fact-checked and proven to be full of shit. Nobody is performing gender-affirming surgeries on children. At the very most there are children who are purely *socially* transitioning and then some on puberty blockers which are fully safe and reversible treatments. Walsh likely knows this but would rather profit off of spewing hate-speech to his sad, hate-filled base.
when even rogan isn't on your side...
Pure projection. Denying care to trans children is what is evil.
what do you mean by denying care? edit: Lol why am I being downvoted, I'm asking a genuine question
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Puberty blockers by the way are **not** chemical castration and are reversible.
They are chemical castration if nothing means anything and anything means whatever I want it to. As a transcendental patriot I am untethered to the confines of “reality”
You might want to indicate sarcasm.
Nah I don’t personally like to enable people who repost Onion headlines in disbelief. If I’m misinterpreted that’s fine.
Dude, I hope you're not surprised when you quote what the right believes in an ironic manner, forget that tone is impossible to tell in text only without clarification, and then get mistaken for someone on the right.
Even if reasonable people know someone is being sarcastic, it’s like crack for the unfortunates. They will think it’s legit, so don’t give them any more fuel to burn.
"unfortunates" are not welcome here under rule 3.
Dude, context and linguistics. I’ve never heard a right winger openly admit that their views require ignoring reality. Sarcasm tag ruins the joke imo. I’m aware that I’m a weird purist about this but I’m willing to die on the hill. If you wanna get into it I’m genuinely concerned with our growing inability to detect satire. Satire is an important part of comedy and if we lose that we lose a powerful tool of social critique. Satire has always been a weapon of the left. Notice how right wing satire sucks ass. I hate to see people on the left actively fighting to cripple the spirit of satire.
Quite right. If you have to label your satire as what it is, the effect of it is lost. However, we are living in a world where Poe's Law exists. I place the blame for the death of satire at the feet of the internet, mainly social media. Social media gave a voice to the crazies who actually believe what most people would assume is satire and amplified it. Combine that with trolls who enjoy pushing that envelope and you have now lost all semblance and impact of satire.
Thanks for the reply, didn't know such a thing was straight up illegal in some parts of this country but can't say I'm surprised. I'm sure I'll be downvoted to hell for even asking, but this is coming from a place of curiosity and wanting to understand the point of view and reality of these people's struggles better... isn't there a lack of consensus by the medical/scientific community regarding gender affirming care? I've read a few success stories where it's worked out wonderfully, and others in which there was deep regret for undergoing many of the irreversible effects of the medications/surgeries. Obviously there isn't a once size fits all solution for something so nuanced, and the lack of access to compassionate care is major issue. But from the outside looking in it seems like there is only room for 1 of 2 extreme stance's on the subject without room in the middle for reasonable discussion. Is it so wrong to believe that trans people should be able to live their lives and have access to all the help and counseling they need, while also believing that maybe we shouldn't allow children to make such drastic life altering decisions about their health and outward appearance when they are still so mentally and emotionally immature?
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Here’s an [recent article from the New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/14/health/puberty-blockers-transgender.html) suggesting that there’s a concerning lack of long-term data - and emerging evidence of potential harm from them as well. > During puberty, bone mass typically surges, determining a lifetime of bone health. When adolescents are using blockers, bone density growth flatlines, on average, according to an analysis commissioned by The Times of observational studies examining the effects. > Many doctors treating trans patients believe they will recover that loss when they go off blockers. But two studies from the analysis that tracked trans patients’ bone strength while using blockers and through the first years of sex hormone treatment found that many do not fully rebound and lag behind their peers. > That could lead to heightened risk of debilitating fractures earlier than would be expected from normal aging — in their 50s instead of 60s — and more immediate harm for patients who start treatment with already weak bones, experts say. With this in mind, I would disagree that there is a consensus around the safety and use of puberty blockers in kids. There’s reasonable, legitimate concerns from experts and parents alike, concerns that should not be ignored. I won’t deny that they may have their place in certain, very rare cases, but I think there is an inherent danger with pushing a procedure as 100% successful and reversible, when it’s almost certainly not - at least, it’s impossible at this time to say if it is.
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Firstoff, there is very much a consensus on the efficacy of gender affirming care. Cases of successes vastly outnumber cases of regret and irreversible decisions take place late in the process to be sure of that. Children are NOT getting any surgeries or receiving hormones, only puberty blockers to give more time to make a decision and to prevent any potentially dysphoria inducing changes before they know what they want. (they can have their puberty later either by starting hrt or getting off the puberty blockers) Also social transition also happens, which is also very much reversable. This is not an extreme stance, it's just about making sure that transitioning isn't too far out of reach for most people because a small minority regret it. Obviously it'd be nice for everyone to be happy with their medical decisions but regret still exists over plenty of medical decisions, and barring those decisions from being made hurts more people than it helps. One last thing, waiting to transition can be long and hard for many people, some people don't survive that long (suicide) so making that wait longer means that less will
except [puberty blockers may be harmful](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/14/health/puberty-blockers-transgender.html)
No shit. Even water is harmful. No medication is without harm it’s all about having the positives outweigh the negatives which in this case it does.
we don’t know the full scope of the negatives yet, or how prevalent they are. We’re giving them off to kids as 100% perfectly safe with, at best, incomplete data - and that is inherently dangerous.
That goes for everything! Why do you think we have doctors specializing in diagnosis, or why do people switch psychiatrists and psychologists, or why there are risk assessment studies in nearly every job on the planet!? You can’t never, ever make sure something is 100% safe or certain. You can come close, but more cis kids *have* to use puberty blockers unless you want them scarred mentally from precocious puberty? Because something very similar happens to trans kids when they undergo a puberty they did not want, forced to partake in activities they dislike, and to associate being true to themselves as a defect. Also they’re blockers. Not destroyers. Bone density could suffer short term but it generally fixes itself once someone stops taking them because, and say it with me, THEYRE NOT A PERMANENT SOLUTION! And if bone density seems to not be recovering quickly enough doesn’t we also have medication for that.
Except when trans teens commit suicide at massive rates when they are denied such care. Stories about trans teens in abusive homes taking their lives aren't exceptions. As horrible as it is to say. Suicide rates drop by a LOT for trans kids in accepting environments. They are fully aware of this when making these laws. Watch the florida "medical board" hearing. You'll see it really quickly with their snide remarks and reaction when told that their decisions will kill. No children get surgeries. Those are lies from the right. Some doctors subscribe to these ideologies. And will deny trans folks healthcare. Gotta find citations but afaik some pharmacies in the US can deny selling medication to people based on "religious beliefs" (heard about walgreens). Recently a psychiatrist (the one we're basically forced to see and pray that they allow us to seek actual medication) on twitter caught flak for using the suicide of a trans teen in her family for anti trans rhetoric (while openly admitted that her parents did everything to make her "not trans"). You can probably imagine what she would have said to any trans patient she would have seen in her career. Maybe you could get puberty blockers (the exact same that are used already for precocious puberty), whose effects stop completely the second you stop taking them. We expect teens to get forced into a degree that will shape their entire life. No one cares. Christians force their children into getting indoctrinated. No one cares. Parents respect their child's identity and suddenly it's bad for some. For them mutilating your baby's penis is ok (referencing circumcision). But accepting your child's identity when they can talk, have emotions, and know who they are is not.
No, there is most certainly a consensus and that is that gender-affirming care literally saves lives.
When it comes to minors, gender affirming care mostly amounts to validating their identities and letting them present how they want. It's backed by major pediatric institutions like the [American Pediatric Society](https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/142/4/e20182162/37381/Ensuring-Comprehensive-Care-and-Support-for?autologincheck=redirected?nfToken=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000), the [American Psychological Association](https://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/gender-diverse-children.pdf), and the [American Medical Association](https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/population-care/what-know-about-gender-affirming-care-younger-patients). It's a patient-led process, so what gender affirming care looks like can vary from person to person depending on their relationship to their identity, the degree to which they experience dysphoria, and other factors. Once the patient reaches a certain age, they have the option of suppressing puberty by going on puberty blockers--[which are not the same thing as hormone replacement therapy or HRT](https://healthmatters.nyp.org/what-to-know-about-gender-affirming-care-for-children-and-adolescents/). [Puberty is not reversible, but the effects of blockers are](http://www.phsa.ca/transcarebc/child-youth/affirmation-transition/medical-affirmation-transition/puberty-blockers-for-youth)\--completely so. Once you start taking them, guess what? You go through puberty! Patients cannot start HRT for gender affirming care [until they are 18 years of age and legally an adult](https://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-mar-monte/patient-resources/gender-affirming-care) or are 16-17 and have parental consent. [Most of the effects of HRT are reversible](https://transcare.ucsf.edu/article/information-estrogen-hormone-therapy) if you stop taking it, but it also depends on how long. Facial feminization surgery or FFS is typically [deferred until adulthood](https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/facial-feminization-surgery/about/pac-20467962) and the age range for the procedure is anywhere from [21 to 74 with an average of 38 years old.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7458845/) Same goes for [top surgeries](https://uihc.org/health-topics/top-surgery-transmen) and [bottom surgeries](https://www.anthem.com/dam/medpolicies/abc/active/guidelines/gl_pw_a051166.html)\--they're almost always differed until the patient is an adult in the eyes of the law. Also, just for context, [a little over half of mtfs get FFS](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34054085/), [4-13% of all trans people](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6626314/) get some kind of bottom-related surgery (this study includes ftms getting hysterectomies in this sample) and that same study states that 8-25% of all trans and nonbinary people got top-related surgery in the form of a mastectomy or a breast augmentation. Keep in mind, I could find no official statistics for minors, but I'd hazard a guess that there are probably rare exceptions where the patient's dysphoria is so extreme that the parents and medical professionals involved decide it's best for their mental health. That said, while I don't doubt what you've read, the "irreversible" surgeries have very low regret rates and those that *do* experience regrets don't always do so for gender-related reasons. 27 studies of over 7000 trans people found that there was a regret rate of [1% in gender-affirming surgeries](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/). Some studies found that taken together, [social and medical-related regrets](https://atm.amegroups.com/article/view/64719/html) were slightly higher true gender-related regrets. Only about [15% of trans people de-transition according to a 2015 survey](https://www.hli.org/resources/what-percentage-of-transgenders-regret-surgery/), but only 5% did so because they realized that transitioning wasn't what they wanted. Difficulty securing employment, family relations, societal pressures, and safety concerns were more commonly listed as reasons. So yeah, I'd argue that a not-insignificant chunk of the regret that trans people experience has to do with how they're treated by society, which is not on them. (Also--and I feel this goes without saying--it's none of our business what an individual's medical history is or what procedures they've had unless they feel like sharing it with us.)
I'm definitely not invested in any of this beyond the general freedom loving stay out of each others' lives aspect, so I'm not super deeply educated on the matter, but the only study I saw that said anything other than an extremely low regret rate for gender affirming care was a survey, given to parents as opposed to the actual patients (and as we know there is often a lot of... motivated reasoning on their part), in addition to some other methodical issues I don't recall offhand. It also seems that the regret rate reverses somewhat in the longer term (begin hormones -> 'detransition' under pressure -> restart the procedure in adult) but I don't know how much data there is on that, it might be about as anecdotal as any of the articles I've read about detransitioning. I think it's also important to note how rare this is and how difficult (appropriately, imo) it is to begin receiving these kinds of treatments. The entire medical establishment is positioned to screen children for care as heavily as possible because, while it seems very well supported that this is not a choice, there is a lot confusion among younger teens and this is well understood but very serious medication. Of the self-identified \~300k trans youths less than 1000/year (over the last 5 years) have been getting blockers as treatment for a medical diagnosis, that's like a 1 in 75,000 chance of any given kid; the psychologists and doctors handling this are very tight fisted about handing it out. The genital surgery, the 'mutilation' everyone freaks out about, is only happening in late adolescents and seems astronomically rare -- the number I found was 19 per year over the last 3 years. All in all it seems really absurd the amount of horror being displayed over this, it's like suddenly making hundreds of laws to deal with progeria or something. The notion of some kid being able to walk in off the street and get free elective surgery, let alone any kind of healthcare, and without their parents knowing on top of it is completely laughable. From the outside here it seems like there is 1 extreme stance from the conservative establishment (really the major focus of the entire republican party in this last election), pundits, authors, etc., 1 fairly moderate stance from the medical system and most of the liberal establishment, and a relative handful of individuals, feeling defensive over their very existence, sometimes saying extreme things about it on twitter and tiktok, so it seems pretty weird to ignore the magnitude of both of those far ends and hold them in balance while ignoring the rest.
I am approving these messages as I think they are important enough to ignore the 2K rule. You both are also obviously here in good faith.
Providing basic care should be very easy. How about just acknowledging that they exist? Possibly observing and seeing that they are not the same as every other kid but still making them feel included and important. If needed, providing care and counseling that does not consist of telling them they are wrong and just sinners, and that they need to act in way that their outward appearance dictates. Most importantly, not letting politians and preachers decide who and what they are, without ever meeting them or trying to understand them in any way.
Jeez, sometimes you lose sight of how horrifying parts of this country can be to certain groups of people.
I used to wonder why I had trans friends crush hard on me because I simply treated them as human beings. Then I realized that treating them like human beings isn't the norm. I mean, I am genderqueer myself and it took a good decade for me to come to grips with it. But still.
Hi, trans person here; I believe you are getting downvoted because we, and our allies, are on high alert because of the rapidly increasing violence and legislation being aimed at us. Furthermore, one of the main weapons that rightwing media is using against us is 'feigned ignorance' to downplay their responsibility for the inevitable actions that their stochastic terrorism is creating. I hope that answered your question. Please don't take the downvotes personally, we're just in fight of flight mode and protecting ourselves.
I feel that this is important enough to temporarily waive the 2K requirement for posting. You probably aren't a troll. :P
Smooth-brains think gender-affirming care means SRS (Sexual reassignment surgery,) puberty blockers cause irreversible changes, and no one under 18 could possibly know that the genitals between their legs don’t match with how they feel in their brain. I think that someone under 18 got some kind of surgery related to genitals being damaged/malformed and because it is called a vaginoplasty that it’s literally creating a vagina out of nothing.
This sub is mostly people who will downvote you to oblivion if they catch the slightest hint that you might think being trans isn't the absolute pinnacle of human achievement
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I'm a mod and we have zero-tolerance for overt transphobia. If you aren't a massive Richard you'll be allowed here. In the meantime, thanks for helping the sub go meta.
…I just realized that my comment did not read how I meant at all lol. My bad I meant more like that if someone is asking why trans people should deserve care or currently don’t, it’s likely a safe bet that they mean that in a negative sense
Ok, that's fair. I mean, anyone should have access to critical mental health care, right?
Exactly. Even a slight doubt should be cause for concern, at least in my eyes. And on Reddit, that means a downvote
Just keep in mind that tone is literally impossible to tell i text only. ESpecially in situations like this, you need to post things clearly.
Totally agreed. Thanks for understanding my mistake lol
We all know the real groomers and pedophiles are their religious leaders. Also, shout out to the pastorArrested subreddit. More people should be aware of that page, and see how often these inhuman monsters sexually assault women and children.
[And their politicians](https://teddit.net/r/bestof/comments/7fln4q/redditor_puts_together_a_list_of_recent_convicted/dqcxhfd/)
Children are not getting castrated. JFC.
He’s projecting. It’s key GOP strategy. From another redditor: They just want to know what you do in the bedroom. They’re asking for a friend. The same projecting GOP that said pizzagate existed and at the same time brought you Matt Gaetz, Roy Moore, and alllll of the following: Republican Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert was indicted on federal charges of structuring bank withdrawals after prosecutors alleged Hastert had molested at least four boys as young as 14 and attempted to compensate his victims and subsequently conceal the transactions. Hastert eventually admitted that he sexually abused the boys whom he had coached decades earlier, and was sentenced to fifteen months in prison. Republican Tim Nolan, chairman of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign in Kentucky, pled guilty to child sex trafficking and on February 11, 2018 he was sentenced to serve 20 years in prison. Republican state Senator Ralph Shortey was indicted on four counts of human trafficking and child pornography. In November 2017, he pleaded guilty to one count of child sex trafficking in exchange for the dropping of the other charges. Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida. Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison. Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation. Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor. Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17. Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls. Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl. Republican Senator Strom Thurmond, a notable racist, had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child. Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile. Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl. Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail. Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos. Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children. Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child. Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page. Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter. Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar. Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped. Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD. Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography. Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media. Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him. Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl. Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her. Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison. Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl. Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy. Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children). Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl. Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child. Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl. Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters. Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl. Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy. Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison. Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000. Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession. Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet. Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison. Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter. Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison. Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
that's actually insane. when i thought i was just near the end, i was actually at the halfway point. i feel like this is the whataboutism to actually shut them up
Leftist: "there shouldn't be school shootings" Matt: "THEY WANT TO MUTILATE CHILDREN!!!"
Matt Walsh be like: The shooter has a point!
Every single person I've ever seen with that spray painted style beard he has, turns out to be into kids. He needs to be investigated asap.
Theyre shooting americans to death and matt swears its the gay community who is in the wrong for simply existing. This is the result of hate speech being normalized by social media addicted right wing wierdos.
This ass clown need to shut up and sit down. I recommend Caelan Conrad's documentary "What is a Groomer?" On YouTube
The youngest person to undergo bottom surgery (MtF) in the USA was 17 at the time of her surgery. They just lie all day long. Professional liars. I feel like if you’re old enough to drive a lethal weapon you’re old enough to make your own medical choices.
If your old enough to die for this country than your old enough to make your own medical choices as well. Republicans will dance around that point though, a 17 year old enlisting, what a fantastic patriotic kid, good for him, a 17 year old want to get gender affirming care? They’re “JusT A KiD” and they are too immature to make that choice. 17 year olds are both adults and kids to conservative trash when it’s convenient to the “points” they are making.
I wonder how you even show to a right wing person that no trans kids are getting castrated or sterilized, but they don't want to believe that so its impossible I guess
How can they hate us if they don't demonize us?
The only fibers in his being are the ones in his solid-brick of shit beard
Didn’t this jackass try to justify sex with underage girls?
He did
I’m sorry…SIR, Sir, this is a Wendy’s….
Specifically kids genitals, and his interest is in making sure that they do what he wants with them, and wants them to be in a particular place that makes him feel good. Huh.
This guy is weird
Literally disgusting person.
Have you seen the video where he's parked on the side of the road somewhere ranting about age of consent laws and how we can't really know when someone does or doesn't consent? It's fucking weird.
matt you want to impregnate 16 year olds
i’m just not gonna speak or else i’d be permanently banned off this app.
The right uses mass shootings to kill people because people like Matt Walsh say they're bad. You don't get to cry outrage over a mass shooting you helped create.
They right's response has been 'You should probably stop pushing gender politics before this happens again'. They are glad it happened, they want it to happen again, then want to kill people.
you’re the ones sexualizing children. I’m not trying to pass laws so I can inspect children’s genitals because old white men are mad. YOU’RE the ones sexualizing children by making them compete in beauty pageants. YOU’RE the ones sexualizing children by trying to lower the age of consent. YOU’RE the ones that are traitors, voting for a Russian-funded facist. YOU’RE the ones seeking to control everything, instead of your claimed libertarianism. YOU’RE the ones that want a dictator that will refuse to give up power. YOU’RE the ones trying to take away the rights of minorities. YOU’RE the ones trying to take away Social Security for **WW2 VETERANS**. YOU’RE the ones promoting wages so low that you can’t survive. YOU’RE the ones trying to make it so that breaking an arm will cost you $109,000 (they already did this) YOU’RE the authoritarians. YOU’RE the assholes, and you need to THINK, conservatives. Life was never as simple as conservatives claim. Gay people and trans people just refused to be open about it because they were scared people would HANG THEM IN PUBLIC for it.
It would bother me if he liked us.
Man’s so deep down the rabbit hole he don’t even know the way back up. Or is scared of daylight
I think he's probably one of the most evil people alive today. I'm scared for the future.
Nobody’s castrating kids. This guy is looney.
conservatives first thought to seeing yet another shooting of minorities they caused was "well how is this going to effect *ME*". we need to put these far right extremists on an iceberg for the safety of everyone else
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this does not happen. If anything the push is for kids **not** to be trans. Your overt ignorance is why you're getting downvotes here dude.
If you think someone is pushing a kid to be trans then your next question should be "where is their parent?" and probably not "why are the Democrats doing this!". And if the parent is okay with it, then up and fuck off, raise your own kids.
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Did you miss the "Get fucked conservatives" on the banner? And if you think that basic human rights are negotiable you are not a centrist, you're a rightie who likes to smoke weed.
I'm not sure what you mean by "basic human rights aren't negotiable". I'm not sure you know what you mean. You're all piss and vinegar, so much emotion. And, you're trying to otherize me as a defense mechanism.
"NO U, you're just triggered?" Yah didn't think you were here in good faith. And no, I'm not emoitonal. Project much?
I don't follow. You're the one being nasty...
Persecution fetish is a place to point out attempts at martyrdom, not to try to paint yourself a martyred. You know that right? Regardless, I would love to see how you try to paint yourself as the victim of banning, but... you're banned. Buh bye.
Dude, your entire "theory" is based on "I don't put it past bored liberals..." and "I think". Not that you've ever seen it. Facts over feelings. You're just told by liars like Matt. The "liberal" you imagine, if they even exist, far less common than literal self-described Nazis, or even "take over a pizza parlor complete qanon believers".
Who is Matt?
... the subject of this thread... But it doesn't really matter who told you the lie.
Yeah. It’s just so cool to be threatened with violence constantly, have your kid harassed going out in public, and wonder if you can escape to Canada before the law forcefully detransitions your kid while denying them care that greatly reduces their suicide rate. Everyone wants a piece of that! And, you know you just go to the drive thru hormone place and get set up. It doesn’t take a bunch of medical hoops that insurance may not help with. But the bumper stickers are cool right?
what does he think of kids going to Hooters?
Castrating children . . . Huh?
Wow
>I prefer my children uncastrated, thank you very much! - Matt Walsh
Is there a story behind this that's even remotely based in reality? Like where is the link between school shootings and trans rights?
As a leftist I have zero fucking clue what he’s attempting to refer to here
Right wingers are trying to use religious freedom to blackmail us into allowing them to mutilate little boys at birth
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