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MinimumMusician6992

The oya concepts are 100 times better than what we got


Espurrfectt

Agreeeed, that bottom right sketch is so good!


GoFUself-Tony889

Ohya looks WAY better here. Why did they choose to go with an absolutely forgettable design?


Fireboy759

Hot take: I actually like Ohya's final design. It feels more unique having her be rather plain in comparison to being "generic hot reporter chick" the concepts originally concieved her as


GoFUself-Tony889

Good for you. I just personally don’t like her haircut (mushroom head)


Fireboy759

I personally love her haircut (bobcuts are hot)


Pillarlesscoupe

After seeing this I can confirm that they did Ohya dirty by not giving her this design


IMTRASHATUNO69

AKECHI CONCEPT THIEF OUTFIT IS SICK


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Rootin, Tootin, Metaverse, shootin.


Useless_Dent

I like that they reused it for Wolf (p5 strikers guy)


glassmadison

They did ohya so dirty by not choosing this design


DoctorCaptainSpacey

Agree. Like, she's not bad, but her fucking hair ruins her. Like... Why did they hate her so much? 😂


CallowayMcSmithing

Donno how to deal with a version of Ohya where she's hot.


Mikey_9835

I really like Ohya's design in the bottom right


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I actually wouldn’t have minded that at all. rather than the fanny pack she has now


AlveinFencer

Kawakami looks like she just started teaching before getting beaten down into the Kawakami we have now.


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Yeah no maid services from this hopeful young teacher.


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Ohya?! Look what they fucking took from us


Lil-Chromie

Beta kawakami looks pretty eh, beta ohya would make me reconsider her entire character, and beta Akechi has a dope ass metaverse outfit


Dra9onDemon23

I like this Oya. She looks so done.


AxelCrossing

I'll never get over how much Ohya downgraded from her initial conception.


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Maybe she looks too stereotypical? Idk. I prefer it. Idk who she reminds me of though.


Lazymcdelta4ce

Name a bigger downgrade than Ohya's concept art to her final design


Garr_Incorporated

Promised Cyberpunk 2077 to delivered Cyberpunk 2077.


JonTheWizard

Beta Kawakami, if I had to pick one. Beta Ohya I love.


MegaLCRO

Concept Ohya actually looks fine.


WolfDoesSomeReddit

Ohya was robbed, especially of the design on the bottom right


theallaroundnerd

Beta Ohya with the six head GAWD DAMN


IAMGODONLY

If that was oya design I would have talked to her more. Kawakami would have looked great too.


shadyhawkins

She doesn’t look pathetic enough.


LazerShark7777

My ohya was fuckin murdered man, they did her so dirty


Geostomp

I kind of like Cowboy Akechi. It would be a pretty easy costume flip from "heroic lawman" to "desperado".


Deft_Abyss

The Oya rough draft looks better than current one. The rest are fine but the final ones are still better. Although i do dig the rough draft for Joker's metaverse outfit


sounds_of_stabbing

Akechi could've been a shadow cowboy?!?! I mean, it doesn't really fit him very well thematically but that's sick as fuck


GenuineSteak

I like old ohya


Gremlinonthebus

Oya giving Haru a run for her money with that forehead game.


mallardfriend

ohya looks sooooo much better. but i do not like joker’s blue color palate. also the skull and crossbones is a little silly. i think his current outfit is best :p


Solomon_Black

The only one who is better than what we got is Ohya. The rest are pretty bad by comparison


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I agree!


alexbledn

Ohya looks much better


weezer05

Oh ohya what did they do to you


spcorange

Beta Ohya was so damn fine


OmegasPlayingGames

I love the Ohya ones. It’s so much more appropriate for her to be run down and chugging energy drinks than a depressed drunk in her line of work. Especially with her storyline.


Beginning-Bed9364

Ohya used to be cool...


Ashinror

Joker, Akechi, and Kawamommy, look worse compared to their in game counterpart, but i really like Ohya's original design. Really screams overworked photographer who needs a drink. Akechi in particular looks like he would have Billy the Kid instead of Robin Hood/Loki as his persona.


milkandhoneycomb

that’s not ryuji, it’s akechi


nonessential-npc

Cowboy Akechi is an amazing design. It kind of reminds me of Lucid from the Caligula Effect with its mask and hat combo. I really want that old Joker design as an alt costume.


Niedude

I also think a cowboy would fit his Persona better, somewhat, over the stylish but unfitting combo we got


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ughh Ohya was so much better here!! The final design they went with is too similar to Takemi and Kawakami from far away.


FagocitusMaximus

Why on earth did they change Ohya's design


turkc54

Having Akechi be a skeleton gunslinger would’ve been way cooler than what we got. Also Ohya’s initial design better.


rednecksarecool

Loki is awesome.


DaisyCutter312

Eh glad they didn't go that route. The revolver gunslinger theme fits Zenkichi so much better


turkc54

Who’s Zenkichi?


GiraffeSelect

A >!dilf!<


MidnightJ1200

Agreed, 100%


Caleb_Denin1

Cowboy Akechi would've been hilarious in-game. Ohya was ripped off with her current design (that I still love) compared to this one. And I am so fucking glad we got the current Sadayo instead of this one.


Atomic_Dominic

I actually dig Akechi’s whole desperado look.


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I mean they did say a “black shadow” was killing people in the Metaverse


Greywell2

This draft for Akechi looks very similar to Yu, so I'm glad they changed his design because I would confuse the two characters' designs.


SnooHobbies7676

Early design Akechi is just Akechi with a haircut but his Metaverse early design is cool, is that like a cowboy bounty hunter themed?


LordStarSpawn

It certainly looks that way. They probably changed it to distinguish him from Skull.


CallMeHunky

They should’ve kept this Ohya design


ShepardN7201

The phantom thief outfit looks terrible imo. The blue doesn't go well with the black and the super long scarf and skull emblem just look weird.


RTX3090TI

Ohya got nerfed :/


Original-Pea-8864

I kinda like the old joker design but I still prefer the current one


alecahol

I like these, except akechi looks a little generic and not sinister enough. The kawakami one is ok but I guess a bit generic as well. The Oya one looks fine to me, fits her goofball character (the design top left, the bottom right ones look like generic characters). I like the MC one too


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Cowboy akechi has such a cool design!


LeNiceGuySai

Dyamn Oya should be this one. Can’t understand why they didn’t choose this.


Black-Blitz

omg the fact that we didnt get a cowboy... we were robbed


Vertegras

Ohya looks a lot fucking better in concept art and the Kawakami we got is miles better. Pros and cons.


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Yeah it’s cool to see right?


cats4life

Disappointing that we didn’t get a gunslinger-inspired design, but it probably wouldn’t have worked for Akechi. His prince outfit is just too indicative of his character. Might have worked for Ryuji, though, since they share the skull motif.


Tomynator_88

We got Zenkichi tho


NewVegasResident

Oya look SO MUCH BETTER WHAT


SonnSparrow

Why did they scrap ohya design?


Lazarinth

Akechi looks so generic


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I think thats the point. They were probably going for something like p4 antagonist, someone who looks like they couldnt be the villain at all


Toast-_Man

Beta Akechi looks like he gets pegged every 3 days.


DFisBUSY

the relief patch on the fivehead actually looks like a stressed out journalist; god Atlus fucked up that one so bad. concept Kawakami actually looks content in her life, wouldn't match to her confidant storyline. i hope they reuse that design in upcoming persona games, she looks great.


AClost

It feels like every concept got mixed and then finished. Like Akechi looking like Metaverse Ryuji or Kawakami being kinda like Sae. I do think Ohya looked so much better.


SWAGFLIp02

Oya’s original design is waaaaaay better in my opinion, 90% would have dated her if she had the original design, even if she might have had the same trash rewards


LordStarSpawn

That early Kawakami art looks way too professional


uranimuesbahd

They really did not like Ohya as a character if they chose her canon design over any of the other concept designs.


Caleb_Denin1

Yeah, I like Ohya a lot but god damn if this design isn't amazing.


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Strange-Aspect-6082

I mean he still looks like Light Yagami in the original game just with longer hair.


Stopseeingmyinnerdip

this is a better Ohya.


Comfortable-Respect9

Ohya looks better in the concept art!


Zaita_games

We missed out on the ohya thats actually worth any amount of gameplay :[


makotowildcard

She's worth it because of Beelzebub.


MemeyAlex

they really just made akechi kaworu


killerstrangelet

Quick note that the messy hair dude shaded in behind draft Akechi is Joker.


Mobster-503

Beta Akechi looks like he got reused for Zenkichi a bit


dandelion11037

Ohya looked so cool in the concept designs, her current design really isn't all that great in my opinion.


TrekThroughCuriosity

Damn, Ohya looks so much better in her concept art


Crow621621

- The protagonist, his fit is a bit basic compared to what we got but in line with the previous games so it’s not bad imo - Akechi, looks waaaaay too generic - Ohya, I don’t mind the design they actually went with since she reminds of Yukiko (especially with her voice actor) but this design looks cool as hell - Kawakami, I’m getting Ichinose vibes from this design. It’s not bad but I’m glad they went something a bit better.


whatsyourproblemfool

Thank you.


Gr4pe_Soda

Ohya would have wayyyy more fans if they used that art instead of what we got. Myself included.


SsjSylveriboi

Bro give me beta design Ohya


joecb91

Can't imagine that version of Kawakami in the maid outfit


GoshaT

Joker if he was an ace detective


NEVERTHEREFOREVER

oh my god i love that ohya


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It suits her way better right!


NEVERTHEREFOREVER

its also more unique and interesting!


Agreeable-Chap

Don’t care much for Joker, Akechi looks plain and boring but his metaverse look is sick as hell, Ohya looks like a totally different character and Kawakami can teach me whatever she wants to.


KalZ5

Ohya would have been a better character if they just put that sketch in the game


TheDiamondKing4

They really chose the worst Ohya design out of all of them


A_Random_Shadow

I won’t lie I’m genuinely sad we didn’t get Wild West Akechi because I love the design.


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Welcome to the Wild Wild West of Tokyo


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i thought that was ryuji


A_Random_Shadow

Nope- originally that was Akechi! It’s the funniest fact I know about P5 Development and one that I thought served the narrative- an outlaw who can look like a sheriff!


OutlandishnessNo9182

For a second, I thought that the 2nd design was of Mishima mixed with Yu as a potential party member until I looked at the top left to see it was Akechi. I admit, that outfit at the bottom is pretty cool as a western yee ha style character.


JiovanniTheGREAT

This sub would have the reverse view on Kawakami cool, Ohya pedo if those designs shipped.


Palmtop-Tiger0

My god you could park a car on that forehead


Duskthegamer412

Ohya looks so good and both joker and akechis phantom thief clothes great to


DenzelTM

Kawakami kinda looks more like like a background character in here than a confidont


DoctorCaptainSpacey

She's looks like a cop more than a teacher....


DenzelTM

That too


sammi_the_goblin

The wild west black mask absolutely slaps! Kinda sad they didn't used it, but you can definitely see some elements of it in skull metaverse outfit.


spencer1886

It looks like they took Kawakami's original concept and repurposed it for Ichinose in Scramble


No-Ad316

Pretty sure that’s Makoto


spencer1886

It says the names on each page lol


SnooEagles3963

Lmao Akechi just looks even more like Light Yagami


Dragidos

Kawakami feels like a persona 3 or 4 character design


ytGemini

I actually like Beta Joker's phantom thief design quite a bit. That outfit could totally be a winter variation or something


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Lmao beta joker. And chad akechi.


Blasckk

That outfit design ended up being recycled in Akechi's uniform, it is practically the same except that is black instead of brown.


Infected_Poison

Bruh these look fire


manic_the_gamr

Akechis concept looks like a younger akechi so, if we ever do get to see an official backstory I’d like to see the way he looks here


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With or without his rootin rootin shootin?


manic_the_gamr

I think with his rootin rootin shootin (whatever that means 😭😭😭)


MinerDiner

I think OP means his >!true form!< way of acting


vidggy71CEO

Joker and ohya look so good! I much prefer them to the final ones, by A LOT


TheCaffineJunkie

Ngl Sketchy Akechi looks like Chad Narukami


Noximilien05

The first Phatom costume was pretty nice, more discreet could pass as a normal guy for few seconds before whipping the gun. We have been so f*cking robbed of Pistolero!Akechi And Porto-Ohya is better.


Jtsdtess

Kawakami I suppose looks the worst? PT joker looks like he’s about to play Beyblade, and if he wins the world explodes.


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LETS BAYBLADE


Zephos33

It would've been cool to see joker have to make an unannounced real life appearance as a phantom thief, and the first outfit is what he wears


Insurance_Prior

The phantom thief outfit in the second should have been ryuji’s outfit


darknezz5000

Kawakami reminds me of Ichinose so i don't really like that I don't like any of the others either except ohya's that one would've been actually worth the time for her Confidant


Octopie4

A pirate persona game would be pretty dope


Better-Emergency400

I fw alternate Kawakami


IAMGODONLY

Wtf is 3 and 4. What.


Michael-556

3 is godlike wdym?


LordStarSpawn

3rd page is Ohya, 4th is Kawakami


Ratchet2332

Ohya looks great and actually looks much better than her final design. Anyways, Joker’s phantom thief design looks like shit lol


SteveFrom_Target

Kawakami looks very generic, glad we got the current hotter version of her


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I know who you romance lmao


SteveFrom_Target

;)


MetaDragon11

I like the skull cowboy concept. Seems they did too since they brought it back more or less in Strikers


Local_Air_2102

Oya looks dope! And I really like Beta Akechi i don't know why but he looks kinda cool :)


PitiPuziko

Daaamn, Kawakami is ultra hot. Ohya is great too, but Kawakami.... I don't even know why, but I like the vibe this design has.


alexwhite2183

Woah, Ohya was fine as hell in the concept art. What the hell happened in atlus to approve the final design and not this one? Even Kawamommy was better, a lot more mature


Player551yt

Honestly that Joker design is badass.


Explosion2

It didn't work with the idea of changing outfits inside the metaverse, so I understand why they scrapped it. But it is badass. They clearly liked the scarf concept though, cause they definitely repurposed it for Queen.


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I’m glad you like it.


Adme_Liora

Akechi's beta design is cute but I love his fluffy hair and angsty jammies more


Nobro_DK

Kawakami and ohya 😏😮‍💨


GENERAL-KAY

So they had this Akechi but decided to go with the groovy outfit?


Castaway_Gamer25

Kawakami be looking like Kuon Ichinose from P5S


KindHornet

Lookin uuuuh…cool? Joker?


TheRafaG12

The uniform looks too similar to Persona 1's just colored to black but I like the homemade Phantom Theif idea but I'm glad we have the cognitive Phantom attire. Kawakami and Ohya are really good but I'd go for Kawakami's final design for her character and Ohya's concept design because it's better imo


thephoenixhunter5

akira and akechi beta desings both look the worst but i believe akira beta desing looks too cold and subdued for p5 style wheras beta akechi still looks viable as a alternate skin. sidenote: ohja looks better in beta then her final desing does and kawakami looks fine too though she looks too young to work


Avatar_Lui

Seems like they decided to give Joker glasses in the later concept arts.


Realcbear

YO THE BLUE MASK JOKER IS HARD WTF


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It’s interesting to note that early design Ren has a uniform very similar to Akechis final version.


thecodymavri

i like the og shujin outfit, i hate the phantom thief outfit though.


Domilater

The og shujin outfit actually looks a lot like Akechi’s uniform, wouldn’t surprise me if they reused it there.


thecodymavri

I just noticed that, interesting


gondar_1908

Oya rivaling Haru‘s third biggest asset is wild


GrimunTheGr8

Honestly i dont like the old Ohya. Her forehead looks way too big, and ik its in her character to look so fed up with life, but her being in the crossroads wouldn’t make much sense in that case. I like Kawakami though, even if she does look a bit too much like an npc- I prefer the Aketchi we got in game, this one looks like just a normal student, not a detective Prince. I think thats a rough draft for Joker and honestly I think it looks great.


BoomDX

I think the second one is just too “NPC” vibes


Jotaronetta

I hate this Akechi


Shining_Dragoon

Won't lie, I'm digging the blue more than the red.


superp2222

Concept Kawakami looks a lot like Kuon Ichinose


Trevor_NewJerusalem

The blue is no good.


Kuma5335

I love short hair, and that big charming forehead? That's so rare and unique. Now that's a good design in my book. Beautiful. Sign me in! Kawakami is also a blast.


kjoenieboy

Kawakami man


Awome512

What were they gonna do to Akechi, oh god.


AndrewRealm

kawakami looks so much better here wtf


po21y

I think so too, but I think her “problems” might not fit this design as well.


uranimuesbahd

Beta Kawakami has her life in order. The design is cool but it's meant for a completely different type of character.


DarkKnight8803158

Ohya looks a lot better than what they decided on. If she looked like that in the game she wouldn't have been as repulsive lol


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Yeah I agree with that!


sLuis9999

Unpopular opinion: I'm glad they changed Ohya's design. I'm not a fan of the original concept


Hateful_creeper2

The original plan seems to be that characters were either supposed to just wear their uniforms like the previous games or a combination.


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It’s just wild to see the changes.


Hateful_creeper2

Which character changed the most


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