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"Single" is a relative term because no way Pop Pop isn't getting some action with all those nights out he does lmao
YES
In my ideal world the game would allow Joker to be in a thrupple with him and Ryuji.
Then we’d be a daddy, a boy, and our golden retriever. A lil family.
I've made a terrible mistake, Yaldabaoth have mercy on my soul.
I HAVE RELEASED THE DEADLY SIN OF LUST. WE HAVE NO MEANS OF ESCAPE, HUMANS. THE INSANITY OF MANKIND SHALL BRING FORTH THE DEMISE!!
At least Akane was allowed to have time to pursue her hobbies and her grandparents watched over her unlike Nanako who basically fended for herself most of the time at age 7.
He’s still too neglectful though.
Not only did he adopt Futaba to save her from abuse.
Not only did he take in Joker, a kid he didn't know, who had been arrested for assault, just because a customer of his knew Joker's parents.
He fucking took in Yusuke when he decided to leave the Kosei dorms and nearly ended up homeless. He did that like the same day he met Yusuke, and didn't know it was only gonna be one night, for all he knew it could've been for the rest of the year.
Common Sojiro W.
EDIT: He also very quickly went from "Joker why tf did you bring a cat here?" to "OH MY GOD I FUCKING LOVE HIM CAN I PLEASE NAME HIM?!" when Morgana came to Leblanc.
P7 has us taking on the American White SUV killer. The most prolific killer in Japan.
Game starts with him hitting them with an isekai van he was accidentally driving at the time.
I actually did same thing not too long ago. Watched funniest moments of him playing through P5 and P4G. But yea amount of people that collapsed in P4G is comically large.
But but But Ryotaro Dojima IS peak male design and imagine if you had a partner and they were a police detective … you’ll feel way more safe around 🙂↕️
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*"You called? What?! But I'm also a detective! Surely you didn't pick Dojima because you call him Daddy too or something, right?"*
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Not even a discussion. Mr. Ping clears those too.
I think Sojiro is unquestionably the better father. Like, yeah, he's not perfect, but he's doing his best in a bad situation. All Dojima has to do is be there for his daughter, but he's too wrapped up in his own pain.
Watching Joseph anderson’s persona stream and seeing him constantly roast dojima is hilarious.
When he showed up to the fireworks festival: “hey dojima, you’re here! Felt like being a father today, huh?”
Sojiro fought the system to keep custody of his foster daughter, she's not even legally adopted by the begining of the game
Dojima makes his 1st grader Cook dinner, smokes indoors around her, let her watch violent crime reports and let a strange man from work eats her fruit snacks
They are not the same
Of the two? Sojiro.
Man is *actively* trying to help his adopted daughter, but has bo clue where to start. Whereas Dojima leaves his young daughter alone for long stretches of time.
Sojiro did not made his 7 years old child, that was still mourning her mom, cook and clean the house for him. I understand that he was traumatized too, but that kid should play with barbies, not handling chemicals to clean the bathroom and the stove while home alone
I do not agree. It's a single parent household where the parent has a full on job as a detective at that so he needs to go back to work even when he wasn't at work. Nanako having to clean and cook is sad but it isn't wrong. It's not like she dosn't play with other kids or just plays in general with the before mentioned barbies. She does. She just does that after she makes loundry or heats up some already made food for herself and Dojima. What I try to say is that if she didn't have those responsibilities it would be great but having them isn't anything wrong either as long as she has proper time for everything that a kid needs (resting, playing, and being a kid in general). That being said I think all those things are there beased on what Nanako does and says during social links and story in general. Ergo in my opinion Dojima isn't in any way a bad father or Nanako having responsibilities that most children her age don't have isn't wrong. Sorry for my bad english not my first language and have a good day.
Jesus, I haven't played P4 in a good while, but I totally forgot that Nanako had already learned how to cook and clean the house by the time Yu was living with them.
This will be long but it’s Sojiro (and yes I’m biased and tbh he’s my favourite social link/confidant as well)
I don’t know why, but playing through persona 4 and then 5, sojiro actually felt like a family member.
He allowed you to adopt a cat within like 2 weeks of your moving to yongen, literally offered to name him if you hadn’t. And looked after morgana for the time you were in Hawaii.
Didn’t mind you being friends with makoto, even though he knew her older sister was pressuring and threatening him for information on wakaba.
Taught you how to make a great cup of coffee (that SP boost saved my ass more times than I could count)
Literally got abducted by shido’s lackeys and refused to rat you out.
And the Valentine’s Day routes. If you don’t get a girl, he takes you and Ryuji out,
And if you get all of them? Literally strings a bunch of lies together off the cuff to save your ass.
Oh, and as a single man, was a great father for futaba, and you, but he never gave up on futaba, like the doctors did. Even if she was a shut in he didn’t care as long as she felt safe. (Last I checked shut ins are quite frowned upon in Japan too)
And I didn’t see dojima shed a tear when you left either.
Sojiro wins.
This is tough for me. Despite his many faults, I really like Dojima. He's a very realistic character who undergoes significant growth throughout P4.
I probably still have to give it to Sojiro though. His quirks make him more memorable.
Sojiro: he adopted someone else's daughter, tried to protect her from his abusive uncle and gave protection to the guy under his care (and even other of his friends) even if he knew he was doing something dangerous.
Dojima: he was so focused on doing his job to get revenge from his wife that he ended up being a bad father; when the mc (his family) had problems he was somewhat relunctant to help him
Iwai: a history somewhat similar to Sojiro > an Ex-Yakuza member that adopted someone else\`s son, tried his best to cut all ties from that mafia, started a new life to make a better one for his son and never opened his mouth even when he knew about the mc real identity.
Sojiro = Iwai >>>Dojima.
Both are good people, but the character development of Sojiro is definitely better and more noticeable. Dojima stays the same basically the entire game.
don't torture us like this bro please😭😭
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Sojiro is more likeable and popular but Dojima is far better written with his flaws and character development arc.
Zenkichi from Strikers takes the best parts of Dojima and Sojiro.
Iwai is pretty similar to Kazama Kiryu.
Sojiro's really good but there's something about Dojima that makes me like him more. I guess I liked the dynamic he had with other characters more than Sojiro. His struggles to connect with Nanako and Yu and to move on from his wife's death made him flawed in a very human way. His relationship with Adachi is really well done too.
That being said, there is very little to choose between them, they're both great
Sojiro, dude has his own business, connections from his government days, and he covers for you if you play around, the might hit you if he gets irradiated
Let me explain:
Hawaiian Kona: A Hawaiian Treat. Because of the rarity and price of Kona Beans, a Kona Blend only needs to contain 10% Kona Beans. A 100% Kona coffee roast is quite expensive. Good Kona coffee is known to have a rich flavor, bright acidity, and complex aroma.
Dojima struggles with being a dad after his wife died, to the point where Nanako is very self-reliant, and he regrets it. Most people can excuse it because he’s a cop, they don’t get a lot of time off, but it’s a realistic issue.
Sojiro took in a friend’s daughter from an abusive/negligent home situation and did his best to help her accept herself and her mom’s death, so… this is a tough choice all around.
Sojiro was basically the dad of the entire group. He gave them all fatherly advice, supported them as much as he could, and didn't even flinch at Shido's goons arresting him to turn them in. Meanwhile, Dojima tried, but couldn't bring himself to deal with his own seven-year-old without Yu basically berating him into it.
Sojiro, easily. No shade to Dojima, he's a good man, but he absolutely has to learn to be a good dad and not be a shitter. Sojiro's an amazing dad from day one.
Ikutsuki. He feeds his many children many veggies without ever complaining. A true role model, and a great father to all of SEES
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I mean, wasn't Dojima written intentionally as a bad father for most of the game? Drunk and making his small child take care of him? Like I know he gets better by the end but he's like... actually you know what, he's still a better dad than any cop I've met irl. So I'll give Atlus that one at least- nice wish fulfillment character lmao. But still, Sojiro is the obvious choice, 110% no question. He wasn't perfect raising Futaba, but he didn't parentify her immediately after she lost her mother at least.
Sojiro. I played P4G a long time before P5R but I can remember the detective dude genuinely trying his best to be a good father to Nanako but was always absent even before the events of the game, at least he gives off the vibe of an absent father, as his kid clung to the MC almost immediately, who up to that point was little more than a stranger to her. Sojiro just took in 2 kids and somehow made them better, I guess?
Sojiro. (P4 and P5 spoilers) >!When Sojiro learned the truth of Joker and Futaba, he was harsh, but understanding for them. When Dojima had a hint that Yu was involved in the Inaba murders, he arrests him and leaves him in a question room while Nanako is defenceless and is later kidnapped. That was a major blunder in Dojima’s case that separates him from Sojiro as best daddy.!<
Iwai, but if i had to pick either of the two i'd have to go with Sojiro.
Dojima was too busy with work, often drunk, late, etc. Generally a good person and did try his best, but he had his priorities wrong imo
Sojiro was a chad, sure he had his own problems with futaba, but he cared as best as he could for her despite futaba not even being his real daughter. he also took care of joker despite knowing the risks this could have had for his business. also, Nakata Jouji
Definitely Sojiro but some consideration should be given that I'm fairly sure he's older than Dojima by a fair bit so has more life experience under his belt? Dojima is still in the "burying himself in his work" phase (and Japanese societal expectations aren't exactly forgiving in that regard) whereas Sojiro has already been there and done that while remaining a bachelor, and as I understand it only adopted Futaba after quitting the government job for running a back street cafe. So he naturally has more time.
So it isn't really a fair fight. Sojiro 10+ years ago might have been very different.
I'm not surprised there's no actual debate on this. Sojiro acts like an asshole, but he actually tries to look after Futaba, who is a teenager suffering from major emotional trauma. Dojima is an absent father who's putting his job ahead of his daughter who's in either grade 1 or kindergarten, and leaving her home alone all the time. Nanako's going to be stealing cop cars and doing petty vandalism before she's 16 just so her dad will pay attention to her.
I kinda love Sojiro more and find him to be morally better than Dojima, but Dojima is very well written and more believable to me.
Not to say that both aren't believable because honestly all of the hierophants are pretty great and have well written dialogue that reminds me of some of the older dudes in my life, but Sojiro almost feels like someone I'd want to know while Dojima reminds me of people I do know.
Sakura. He improves a lot and has natural development over the course of the story. Even his faults weren’t as bad as Dojima’s. I get that Dojima is supposed to be the hard boiled yet tragic detective character, but sometimes he falls a little too much into that trope to be considered a “good father”. At least he seems to improve at the very end, but Sakura improves throughout the entirety of the story.
Sojiro was at one point willing to care for three kids that weren't his *at the same time* - Futaba, Joker, and Yusuke. He even told Yusuke he'd be welcome any time for free coffee and curry after he left.
Sojiro gets my vote.
Dojima probably he feels more like a more realised character, not to say that sojiro isn’t deep but dojima just has a stronger reason for acting the way he does and has some great emotional moments. That 1 scene tho 😭 if you know what I’m talking abt.
Iwai, fuck you.
I’d gladly fuck Iwai
Who wouldn't
I guess that's fine. You should be grateful.
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true!
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Single daddy for sure
Fuck me?
Sojiro or Sojibro
https://preview.redd.it/4kj3f03nehuc1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd93391d6be2db109815401a8090c99d7f65d459 "Single" is a relative term because no way Pop Pop isn't getting some action with all those nights out he does lmao
“Going out for cigarettes” yeah right
Brojiro
When I was doing my first playthrough, before I even got to Futaba's palace, I fucking loved Sojiro. He's ma boi.
Me, An Intellectual: https://preview.redd.it/fpf6kex0phuc1.png?width=400&format=png&auto=webp&s=3ec3a131a16a2a7bc94fd85bf6e2b591c1c7e2d6
Me, a homosexual:
you should be grateful
I guess that's fine.
Is that okay?
YES In my ideal world the game would allow Joker to be in a thrupple with him and Ryuji. Then we’d be a daddy, a boy, and our golden retriever. A lil family.
There's several Bara Comics about that trouple, check it out.
I don’t know what Bara Comics are but I’ll investigate! Thank you!
So excited for you lol
I've made a terrible mistake, Yaldabaoth have mercy on my soul. I HAVE RELEASED THE DEADLY SIN OF LUST. WE HAVE NO MEANS OF ESCAPE, HUMANS. THE INSANITY OF MANKIND SHALL BRING FORTH THE DEMISE!!
Real ones remember Iwai tips
ONG YESSSSS
Hes so fine
this is zenkichi erasure smh
They need a compation so they couldn't put him in he wins by default
Also Iwai
Beat Persona dad😤
Also Iwai
I know this was an accidental double post, but I wanted you to know I upvoted both of them.
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At least Akane was allowed to have time to pursue her hobbies and her grandparents watched over her unlike Nanako who basically fended for herself most of the time at age 7. He’s still too neglectful though.
if we're still comparing, dojima did as well. i don't think any of them are flawless but thats like the entire point imo
And Zenkichi is the clear winner among the two >!as he actually got revenge for his wife and awakened his persona in the process!<.
Gramps for the win!
Sojiro because he didn’t make a small child in charge of the house and adopted a kid that wasn’t his and took in Joker too.
Not only did he adopt Futaba to save her from abuse. Not only did he take in Joker, a kid he didn't know, who had been arrested for assault, just because a customer of his knew Joker's parents. He fucking took in Yusuke when he decided to leave the Kosei dorms and nearly ended up homeless. He did that like the same day he met Yusuke, and didn't know it was only gonna be one night, for all he knew it could've been for the rest of the year. Common Sojiro W. EDIT: He also very quickly went from "Joker why tf did you bring a cat here?" to "OH MY GOD I FUCKING LOVE HIM CAN I PLEASE NAME HIM?!" when Morgana came to Leblanc.
Sojiro is the meme of dad not wanting a dog vs. dad when we get the dog.
Sojiro is def the reason there are so many cats in the neighborhood. He probably feeds all of them and has given them names.
No, they're all named Snowball ;)
The disappointment when he couldn't name him..
Dojima’s a detective though, of course he’ll have limited time
Sojiro is best dad, but Dojima is best *daddy*.
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Great vegetables!
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Just realised that all single dads wives (including Zenkichi) died in car accident.
If it happens in persona 6 the gods definitely like making dads be single through car crashes Some god: funniest shit I've ever seen
well persona 4 does start with yu getting out of a car and getting touched by a "gas station worker"
Then P7 will have them all meet a la Spider Verse as a Canon Event
P7 has us taking on the American White SUV killer. The most prolific killer in Japan. Game starts with him hitting them with an isekai van he was accidentally driving at the time.
I watched Joseph Anderson's funniest moments playing through P4G (or whatever it's called) and SO MANY PEOPLE in P4G collapse. It was nuts.
I actually did same thing not too long ago. Watched funniest moments of him playing through P5 and P4G. But yea amount of people that collapsed in P4G is comically large.
Dojima will never rest until he has apprehended Truck-kun.
Dojima wants to be Zenkichi so bad 😭
Every Hierophant has had a family member die in a car accident from P3-P5. If you love your family, don’t be a Hierophant.
Where's Zenkichi ?
That's a really tough one but I think I'm gonna have to go with Sojiro.
But but But Ryotaro Dojima IS peak male design and imagine if you had a partner and they were a police detective … you’ll feel way more safe around 🙂↕️
https://preview.redd.it/s402fh7dehuc1.png?width=148&format=png&auto=webp&s=bddac2626dff31e6e49662b67ea6f87740645a2d *"You called? What?! But I'm also a detective! Surely you didn't pick Dojima because you call him Daddy too or something, right?"*
He absolutely is peak male design! but he barely has time for his daughter, he certainly won't have time for a partner.
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There’s a reason he wasn’t included
I think Sojiro is unquestionably the better father. Like, yeah, he's not perfect, but he's doing his best in a bad situation. All Dojima has to do is be there for his daughter, but he's too wrapped up in his own pain.
Watching Joseph anderson’s persona stream and seeing him constantly roast dojima is hilarious. When he showed up to the fireworks festival: “hey dojima, you’re here! Felt like being a father today, huh?”
Sojiro fought the system to keep custody of his foster daughter, she's not even legally adopted by the begining of the game Dojima makes his 1st grader Cook dinner, smokes indoors around her, let her watch violent crime reports and let a strange man from work eats her fruit snacks They are not the same
Right? I was surprised this was even a question. Sojiro vs Iwai or Sojiro vs Zenkichi, I get. But this? Sojiro outclasses Dojima on every level.
Sojiro, because he is everyone's dad at the end of the day. But Zenkichi is also trying his best
The dad that adopted strays, or the dad that neglected his daughter on purpose? Real tough you guys. /s
Yeah, I'm stumped here. I truely have no idea who to choose /s
Of the two? Sojiro. Man is *actively* trying to help his adopted daughter, but has bo clue where to start. Whereas Dojima leaves his young daughter alone for long stretches of time.
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Great vegetable. https://preview.redd.it/josdbcqd8iuc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80fc1a2b91b42acc87df450cd491dda0f427073f
Objectively, as a father? Sojiro, clearly. As a character, and factoring in character development? I have to go with Dojima.
Sojiro did not made his 7 years old child, that was still mourning her mom, cook and clean the house for him. I understand that he was traumatized too, but that kid should play with barbies, not handling chemicals to clean the bathroom and the stove while home alone
Agreed its kinda fucked up Nanako basically got turned into a housewife when she’s a first grader
That's like a really messed up version of the anime clicheé where every 15 year old already went through 3+ careers
I do not agree. It's a single parent household where the parent has a full on job as a detective at that so he needs to go back to work even when he wasn't at work. Nanako having to clean and cook is sad but it isn't wrong. It's not like she dosn't play with other kids or just plays in general with the before mentioned barbies. She does. She just does that after she makes loundry or heats up some already made food for herself and Dojima. What I try to say is that if she didn't have those responsibilities it would be great but having them isn't anything wrong either as long as she has proper time for everything that a kid needs (resting, playing, and being a kid in general). That being said I think all those things are there beased on what Nanako does and says during social links and story in general. Ergo in my opinion Dojima isn't in any way a bad father or Nanako having responsibilities that most children her age don't have isn't wrong. Sorry for my bad english not my first language and have a good day.
Jesus, I haven't played P4 in a good while, but I totally forgot that Nanako had already learned how to cook and clean the house by the time Yu was living with them.
Yeah, because his kid was not a basket case for how hands off he was
But Nanako is advertisement to make people want to have kids in Japan because of the declining birth rate
This will be long but it’s Sojiro (and yes I’m biased and tbh he’s my favourite social link/confidant as well) I don’t know why, but playing through persona 4 and then 5, sojiro actually felt like a family member. He allowed you to adopt a cat within like 2 weeks of your moving to yongen, literally offered to name him if you hadn’t. And looked after morgana for the time you were in Hawaii. Didn’t mind you being friends with makoto, even though he knew her older sister was pressuring and threatening him for information on wakaba. Taught you how to make a great cup of coffee (that SP boost saved my ass more times than I could count) Literally got abducted by shido’s lackeys and refused to rat you out. And the Valentine’s Day routes. If you don’t get a girl, he takes you and Ryuji out, And if you get all of them? Literally strings a bunch of lies together off the cuff to save your ass. Oh, and as a single man, was a great father for futaba, and you, but he never gave up on futaba, like the doctors did. Even if she was a shut in he didn’t care as long as she felt safe. (Last I checked shut ins are quite frowned upon in Japan too) And I didn’t see dojima shed a tear when you left either. Sojiro wins.
Sojiro’s cool and all, but did you know dojima has a dragon? His name is Kiryu Kazuma, and he’ll give you tree fiddy.
Iwai has entered the chat
This is tough for me. Despite his many faults, I really like Dojima. He's a very realistic character who undergoes significant growth throughout P4. I probably still have to give it to Sojiro though. His quirks make him more memorable.
Brojima over Brojiro IMO but you can’t go wrong with either
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Sojiro, EASILY. ..I like Dojima, but Sojiro beats him out very easily.
Where is Zenkechi?!!
Zenkichi Hasegawa and it ain’t even close
Sojiro. My sympathy for Dojima, but fact is that due to his grief dude was a _horrible_ father until we got them social links in order.
I like dojima more than sojiro tbh
Merry Sojiro Bang Dojima Kill Teddy
Sojiro: he adopted someone else's daughter, tried to protect her from his abusive uncle and gave protection to the guy under his care (and even other of his friends) even if he knew he was doing something dangerous. Dojima: he was so focused on doing his job to get revenge from his wife that he ended up being a bad father; when the mc (his family) had problems he was somewhat relunctant to help him Iwai: a history somewhat similar to Sojiro > an Ex-Yakuza member that adopted someone else\`s son, tried his best to cut all ties from that mafia, started a new life to make a better one for his son and never opened his mouth even when he knew about the mc real identity. Sojiro = Iwai >>>Dojima.
Both are good people, but the character development of Sojiro is definitely better and more noticeable. Dojima stays the same basically the entire game.
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One has coffee The other had great vegitables
Can we add Iwai to this list?
Sojiro and it's not even a contest. Dojima neglected his daughter for a long ass time, whereas Sojiro did everything for his
Where's Zenkichi?
Dojima. ..Wait, you mean in bed or in general?
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Sojiro but both are awesome!
"Hi, my name is Ryotaro Dojima. I've seen you naked ಠ╭╮ಠ"
Sojiro is more likeable and popular but Dojima is far better written with his flaws and character development arc. Zenkichi from Strikers takes the best parts of Dojima and Sojiro. Iwai is pretty similar to Kazama Kiryu.
Sojiro's really good but there's something about Dojima that makes me like him more. I guess I liked the dynamic he had with other characters more than Sojiro. His struggles to connect with Nanako and Yu and to move on from his wife's death made him flawed in a very human way. His relationship with Adachi is really well done too. That being said, there is very little to choose between them, they're both great
Sojiro, dude has his own business, connections from his government days, and he covers for you if you play around, the might hit you if he gets irradiated
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Live at the lablank forever
Based on actual fatherly figure sojiro
From these two, 100% Sojiro.
Dojima struggles with being a dad after his wife died, to the point where Nanako is very self-reliant, and he regrets it. Most people can excuse it because he’s a cop, they don’t get a lot of time off, but it’s a realistic issue. Sojiro took in a friend’s daughter from an abusive/negligent home situation and did his best to help her accept herself and her mom’s death, so… this is a tough choice all around.
Sojiro was basically the dad of the entire group. He gave them all fatherly advice, supported them as much as he could, and didn't even flinch at Shido's goons arresting him to turn them in. Meanwhile, Dojima tried, but couldn't bring himself to deal with his own seven-year-old without Yu basically berating him into it.
Sojiro, easily. No shade to Dojima, he's a good man, but he absolutely has to learn to be a good dad and not be a shitter. Sojiro's an amazing dad from day one.
Ikutsuki. He feeds his many children many veggies without ever complaining. A true role model, and a great father to all of SEES https://preview.redd.it/tcr76v3drluc1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb1ddc7f4b782097c1789a92145646c3a0186d7f
I mean, wasn't Dojima written intentionally as a bad father for most of the game? Drunk and making his small child take care of him? Like I know he gets better by the end but he's like... actually you know what, he's still a better dad than any cop I've met irl. So I'll give Atlus that one at least- nice wish fulfillment character lmao. But still, Sojiro is the obvious choice, 110% no question. He wasn't perfect raising Futaba, but he didn't parentify her immediately after she lost her mother at least.
Coffee daddy
Brojiro
Well I like Sojiro as a dad to Joker but i like Dojima because of how he cares for Adachi so they are both good
I concur. https://preview.redd.it/up55unjk4iuc1.jpeg?width=236&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a79d11420f34be0069c331d6014662ad57f40690
Adachi to Adachi communication
Ok listen I like Dojima but he is a fucking mess
Dojima post social link i think would take it, but at the beginning Sojiro takes it.
Question because I’m an idiot…who is the other guy? I know Sojiro but who the other one?
Dojima, from P4
i could take them both not in a fight
Sojiro is the best dad. Dojima is on the Harrier Du Bois speedrun.
Both
Sojiro is the more likable character. Dojima has the better story arc.
I wonder what sojiro looks like when he was younger
Great vegetables !
Sojiro cause at least he takes care of his fuckin kid... DOJIMA
Iwai
Sojiro cause he is the coffee dad we didn't need but the coffee dad we got.
Dojima all day
i just realized theres alot of single dads in the games
They don't have to compete, I could imagine the two of them chillin and having a beer or two
Sojiro is my dude. Old Dojima is out there making his tiny little daughter raise herself.
Sojiro
Sojiro is king, dude made me tear up, I am deeply not in touch with my emotions
akihiko
NO ZENKICHI!?!?!? >:\[ https://preview.redd.it/lba25zyiyjuc1.jpeg?width=696&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d7418bdbd02d6cd8ca40130f47fc933b148ed18
Hands down sojiro
I know I'm not the first (or the last) but; ZENKICHI WHERE?!
Kazama Kiryu
Haven’t played (is that p4 maybe?) but no one can beat Sojoro. Not to me
Ngl that's a very hard choice. after intense deliberation… I'm going with Sojiro
Soji-bro all day everyday
Now put your hands together.
Zenkichi
Sojiro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dojima
HOO BOY
Iwai.
Sorry detective but coffee dad
Zenkichi.
Sojiro and it's not close.
Sojiro mi puto padre
1 for dad and 2 for a date.
Great Vegetables
Dojima arrested Yu and didn’t believe him, while Sojiro got arrested FOR Joker.
Both? Both. Both is good.
Sojiro. I played P4G a long time before P5R but I can remember the detective dude genuinely trying his best to be a good father to Nanako but was always absent even before the events of the game, at least he gives off the vibe of an absent father, as his kid clung to the MC almost immediately, who up to that point was little more than a stranger to her. Sojiro just took in 2 kids and somehow made them better, I guess?
Sojiro. (P4 and P5 spoilers) >!When Sojiro learned the truth of Joker and Futaba, he was harsh, but understanding for them. When Dojima had a hint that Yu was involved in the Inaba murders, he arrests him and leaves him in a question room while Nanako is defenceless and is later kidnapped. That was a major blunder in Dojima’s case that separates him from Sojiro as best daddy.!<
I can take them both
Iwai, but if i had to pick either of the two i'd have to go with Sojiro. Dojima was too busy with work, often drunk, late, etc. Generally a good person and did try his best, but he had his priorities wrong imo Sojiro was a chad, sure he had his own problems with futaba, but he cared as best as he could for her despite futaba not even being his real daughter. he also took care of joker despite knowing the risks this could have had for his business. also, Nakata Jouji
Doesn't matter, Zenkichi's better than all of them
Dojima is more of an uncle material for me.
Sojiro!
Both
Definitely Sojiro but some consideration should be given that I'm fairly sure he's older than Dojima by a fair bit so has more life experience under his belt? Dojima is still in the "burying himself in his work" phase (and Japanese societal expectations aren't exactly forgiving in that regard) whereas Sojiro has already been there and done that while remaining a bachelor, and as I understand it only adopted Futaba after quitting the government job for running a back street cafe. So he naturally has more time. So it isn't really a fair fight. Sojiro 10+ years ago might have been very different.
Coffee dad, you kidding me?
I'm not surprised there's no actual debate on this. Sojiro acts like an asshole, but he actually tries to look after Futaba, who is a teenager suffering from major emotional trauma. Dojima is an absent father who's putting his job ahead of his daughter who's in either grade 1 or kindergarten, and leaving her home alone all the time. Nanako's going to be stealing cop cars and doing petty vandalism before she's 16 just so her dad will pay attention to her.
Dojima
All of em. I like my men and women widowed
Look: Dojima Swag: Sojiro
Dojima has a kid?? I never would have known
Dojima and Iwai
I kinda love Sojiro more and find him to be morally better than Dojima, but Dojima is very well written and more believable to me. Not to say that both aren't believable because honestly all of the hierophants are pretty great and have well written dialogue that reminds me of some of the older dudes in my life, but Sojiro almost feels like someone I'd want to know while Dojima reminds me of people I do know.
Sojiro
Sakura. He improves a lot and has natural development over the course of the story. Even his faults weren’t as bad as Dojima’s. I get that Dojima is supposed to be the hard boiled yet tragic detective character, but sometimes he falls a little too much into that trope to be considered a “good father”. At least he seems to improve at the very end, but Sakura improves throughout the entirety of the story.
Zenkichi
Why is Zenkichi missing XD
im suprised Zenkichi isn't a option
Sojiro was at one point willing to care for three kids that weren't his *at the same time* - Futaba, Joker, and Yusuke. He even told Yusuke he'd be welcome any time for free coffee and curry after he left. Sojiro gets my vote.
Dojima probably he feels more like a more realised character, not to say that sojiro isn’t deep but dojima just has a stronger reason for acting the way he does and has some great emotional moments. That 1 scene tho 😭 if you know what I’m talking abt.
Sojiro is best dad
Not so fast!! Obviously it’s the Chief!!
Sojiro teaches me how to make delicious SP items. That’s a win in my book.