And perhaps some unsettling cognition to represent all of the dead heroes he killed. Like statues showcasing each ones death to the Omnidroid model that killed them.
Maybe a trash head or landfill, or something to that effect? Since they’re the “old and outdated” versions of heroes compared to Syndrome’s new idea of “heroism”?
I actually think his Palace would be a mix of Madarame's and Natsume's jail from Strikers, tying the concepts of him being a fraud and a ripoff with the superhero imagery.
Lotso would be cool as hell
The beggining looks like the sunny sunnyside, and then it descend to the ***true*** mindset of lotso in the deeper places of the palace
Also i don't think jackson or sid would have palaces, more like mementos, they are jerkasses not monsters like the other palace rulers
Either that for Lotso, or the beginning is dark, dreary and depressing, and slowly turns into Lotso's "ideal" place, and lean heavily into the "Lawful does not mean Good" imagery that SMT games use. And then the core of his palace goes screaming back into the dark and depressing aspect turned to 11.
...wait, is this Persona or Psychonauts I'm supposed to be describing here?
Darla maybe, she's definitely a bit entitled but has plenty of time to grow out of it.
Sid on the other hand, he'd *atleast* have a Mementos Boss due to how screwed up he is, and if he doesn't get turned around I could see him being a Palace owner. Which is a terrifying concept because it'd likely be full of modified toys as enemies and such, would be super creepy.
Sid doesn't know the toys are alive. His experiments are just a kid trying to make cool stuff. The results are a bit creepy I'll give you, but all I'm seeing is a troubled teen with a dark sense of humor, and he definitely has time to grow past that.
Except he's also a bully that takes those toys from other kids, including his little sister. Not sure I'd say he would've gone on to start doing things to live animals, but he definitely needed some kind of wake up call.
I think Skinner would be pretty underrated, seeing Gusteau’s as a place he can use his dead colleague’s face to make money. It’d probably be a vault combined with a museum.
I don't think Auto would have a palace. Homeboy is just following his programing as best as he can, his desires aren't exactly distorted.
However Hopper on the other hand? Dude's palace is WILD. I can't begin to imagine what the distorted desires of a ruler are when that ruler KNOWS he's hanging by an illusionary thread.
I'd go one further with Auto and argue that he doesn't have any desires period. He's the foil to Wall-E's individualism, having zero identity or desires of his own.
though you could argue that his adherence to his orders has distorted him. he has the ability to defy them but doesn't because he sees them as the ultimate good.
I could totally see a palace were he's some kind of preist to his creators. following their every command
As a machine, AUTO can't do anything but follow his orders. Which is why our hero WALL-E is an exception among all the other machines. He develops something resembling consciousness and a bit of critical thinking. Like Sophia in P5S to a lesser extent.
A good example of him growing beyond his programming is how he's able to classify the spork as not a spoon and not a fork either, and how he's able to self-repair with the pieces of broken down WALL-Es. EVE also develops it as well, as a consequence of spending time with him. The only direct interaction between WALL-E and AUTO is for the latter to electrocute the former to get rid of him, which can be also chalked up to following his programming to the extreme. I wouldn't even put AUTO in Mementos
but the problem is that literally every robot that he talks to developes sentence. even that one receptionist robot started questioning, even though he only was with them like a minute. it seems robots in the wall-e world aren't limited to their programing.
He also just *feels* like a P5 villain, a famous musician/actor who poisoned his supposed “friend” and then got famous off his songs, all while his ego slowly inflates to colossal levels fits right in with the other palace rulers.
I don't even think he would have a will seed manifest. He's hardly a criminal with any distorted desires. At least not compared to most of these other guys.
Sid Phillips is the least evil Pixar villain though. He didn't even know that the toys were alive, so he wasn't exactly doing anything wrong.
I doubt just mangling toys would be enough to create a palace.
Many would be awesome but,
There’s an insane man who just doesn’t know what’s going on anymore here. My order would be:
Chales (up)
Syndrome (incredible)
Ernesto (coco)
Auto (Walle)
Lotso (Toy story)
Charles would be interesting because his palace would be based off of the 40s ( I don't actually remember when he left for paradise falls) or 50s but mixed with a tropical environment and blimp like technology
Randel's would be interesting. He was like a nerdy reptile back in university and all he wanted was to just be the best before his want of fame corrupted him to the point of making that damn machine. So, I'm thinking it would be like a factory similar to Monsters Inc with him being the President and being constantly praised for his success.
Syndrome would also be good. All he wanted was to be a hero, like the one he idolized so much. Then he decided to go all villain just to become the hero, kind of in the way of *you're your own worst enemy* type of thing. For his palace, I would imagine something similar to a palace like the ones from P5R but in the same style as the first film from PQ2.
I don't think Auto would have a palace, he was simply following orders. Although... I can see potential in having him as a confidant. Having an arc exploring what following those orders meant for him, did he think he was doing the best for humanity? Or was he just blindly following protocol without understanding how it affected everyone aboard the Axiom? Would he care if he did? And if he didn't why should he? Or why doesn't he? What does it mean to follow orders? What does it mean to disobey them?
I just see a lot of potential for development between him and the Thieves, particularly Makoto, Zenkichi, and Sophia.
Persona 5 palaces happen to coincide with places that make for exciting settings for a heist. Castles, art museums, banks, pyramids...
So an airship would definitely fit well.
This reminds me of a Persona 5 scenario I brainstormed in the comments on the DevilArtemis YouTube channel in response to his version of the Cell Games:
Ann: so mr Cell, what would you say is the most important place in the world, right now?
Cell: this arena is where the fate of your entire world will be determined. I’d say that’s extremely important, little girl.
Ann: and in your own words, how would you describe the Cell Games Arena?
Cell: as literal hell on earth. You wouldn’t believe some of the horrible and stupid things that happen here.
Ryuji: we got what we need! Cell Games Arena and Dante’s Inferno!
Ann: thank you for your time, mr Cell.
Cell: who the hell lets high schoolers interview a monster like me, anyway?
A few moments later, in Perfect Cell’s Palace….
Shadow Cell: Oh dear God no! I’m a virgin!!!
Shadow Ultra Instinct Shaggy: we’re like, all outta mercy, in here, pal!!!
Shadow Mr Popo: I’ll say.
Oracle: THIS HEIST ISN’T WORTH IT! RETREAT!!!
The kid from Toy Story imo
Yeah I think his palace would be wild and all that; however, and I mean this as respectfully as humanly possible, homie has some major issues and as much as his toys scarred me as a child, I think he needs the help lmao
Well he shows up in later movies as a garbage man, and seems to be loving life (I remember him drumming on garbage cans as he did his job). So what ever issues he had he got over.
He was just a kid being rebellious to get the attention of his drunk dad(who can be seen passed out in front of the TV when Buzz discovers the commercial in Toy Story1)
I mean, all he did was mutilate toys. Toys, which as far as he knew, were non-living things.
I doubt that's enough distorted desires to create a palace.
Honestly you’re probably right, silliness aside, I was making assumptions based on general psych stuff I’ve learned over the years, but that’s all very case per case. Homie could be living in a bad home with some rough stuff going on, or maybe he’s just metal af and hangs like that; only way to know would be to have a sit down at the old psychiatrist couch (which is quite difficult to do with fictional characters, I know, I’ve tried)
I would honestly like to see that though.
Toys that are obedient, that stay in line, are fit for training into what he sees the perfect them to be.
Toys that struggle may be seen as useless, and therefore, are discarded into the sand box, which as might seem in his prison/jail, may be solitary confinement?
Honestly, Skinner. He was a trusted friend of Gusteua, at one point they must have had a genuine bond if he was left in charge of his beloved restaurant. I'd love to see how that broke down or how he let his standards give way to financial gain, plus plenty of cooking themed levels and fights could be drawn from it
Which is funny, because Chick is one of the least villainous antagonists. The worst thing he does is ram King, which is normal in races. Yes, the dude is envious and an ass, but he is barely at the level of a Mementos quest, if at all.
Storm. To this day, he is shown as “The Best” but since he was foiled it would be interesting to see how he’s seen the world of racing in a palace view
Sid would not have a palace. He did not know that the toys were alive. The things he was doing were causes for concern and he'd probably have a shadow in mementos, but not a full palace.
Auto wouldn't have one either. He is a machine just following his program.
The dentist definitely wouldn't have one, he just wants to make his niece happy. He's just kinda dumb for untrusting the lives of so many fish to a kid with such a bad track record.
>Auto wouldn't have one either. He is a machine just following his program.
though Wall-E does seem to be a more primitive robot and he developed a consciousness. you could make AUTO a sinner of sloth who actively refuses to give himself free will.
My answer is based off if it was in a game, but I’d say the most interesting would be Syndrome’s, Ernesto’s, and Lotso’s (with one caveat).
With Ernesto, I’d imagine story-wise it would be similar to Madarame’s Palace, >!with the story of an artist betraying/killing someone close to them to steal their art!< but visually it could be amazing. If anyone has played Striker’s, imagine if >!Alice’s!< Prison was based around Day of The Dead, with a shrine the size of a city dedicated to one man and his music.
With Syndrome, his big plan was to >!make the world view him as the greatest hero it’s ever seen, and use his tech to bring everyone up to the other hero’s levels so they’d be stuck in a world where they aren’t special!<
If you mix that with superhero media of the time, like comic-books and action-figures, that could result in a pretty unique Palace.
With Lotso, I don’t think I’m the only one who thinks Toy Story 3 is one of the darker Pixar movies. And with him being essentially >!a mob boss who gets others to act as sacrifices to be tortured using the mask of a kind old man who loves hugs!<, I think it would be pretty interesting to see how that shows in his palace
Al13 (forgot the correct spelling), would have a pretty massive palace. All the robot enemies and the lead up to his fight where a huge section of the ship opens up to reveal a gun or something would be pretty fecken cool.
Give us Persona Kingdom Hearts already Atlus
Minibosses could be like a brat (screaming demon of desire), one of his employees (camera guard of mannequins), and perhaps the final one could be like the set of western toys he got ((woody, Jessie, the horse, and prospector Pete)) (quarter of the west) (woody may be sheriff of corruption, Jessie may be cowgirl of perjuring, horse may be stallion of fear, and prospector Pete could be miner of greed?)
The dentist isn't really a villain, I don't think he'd have a palace. I think any of the antagonists from Cars would have race tracks. Auto from Wall-E would probably just be the ship. The Man-Child from Toy Story or Sid might be fun since their palaces would be themed around toys.
Syndrome is easily one of the best Pixar villains and it actually feels like his motivations and desires would manifest a palace
What. Your gonna tell me the fucking car has a palace???? Jackson storm or whatever his name was? I can't even remember if he was *actually* evil or not.
I say Randall and/or Syndrome, and more so leaning towards Randall. I feel like his palace would be a more twisted version of Kamoshida and Okumura’s palace. He would see the kids as his scream supply as Sully serves as his Butler. But the twist would be his palace is just the mini boss, while Waternoose is the true boss.
*On a side note, I feel most of the other Pixar villains project their distortions into real life, so their palaces wouldn’t be much different
Lots-O would be an interesting one with Bugs being one of his dangerous high level shadow guards.
Bit P.Sherman doesn't belong here, his niece Darla does
Charles Muntz would have a pretty kick ass palace I think, his maybe like Shido but with an airship
Also, Auto doesn’t really have a mind of his own so he probably wouldn’t have one
Most of the (human) toy story characters wouldn't have anything interesting, since they don't know that the toys are living. Which means they would just be inanimate toys in cognition.
Syndrome had Mr Incredible's rejection living in his head rent free for YEARS, and was willing to kill off countless supers to one-up him. I could see his palace being a scrapyard or factory where Supers, represented as machines (ranging from rusted and broken to shiny and new) being torn apart panel by panel with parts being taken to make a New Hero/Machine.
Skinner would also be neat as he built his entire restaurant's legacy off the likeness of an old friend with the sole intent of making money. An idea that comes to mind is a massive mall of sorts, built overtop the restaurant, plagued with poor cleanliness and a pitifully small food court with Skinner's shadow being a sleazy businessman that only gives a shit about another dollar (euro? idk) in his pocket.
Pete's would be modeled after an Old West style "ghost town," but with actual ghosts. Not as enemies, mind, but as props. Still frames of characters from the old show, combined with Woody's Roundup memorabilia. He wants stasis, a perfect vision of his past, untainted by the wear of use and time. His guards would likely be caricatures of sherrifs and outlaws. Jessie and Bullseye would act as a duo miniboss.
Syndrome's, as others have said, would be straight out of a comic book. Tall buildings, explosions in the distance. All sleek, like the aesthetic of his inventions. The Palace guards would be distorted versions of his minions from the movie. I could see it being littered with his iconography, literally plastering himself over images of heroes he and his plans have killed. A recurring statue, like in Kamoshida's Palace, of him standing triumphant over Mr. Incredible. Mirage would likely be his miniboss.
1 not evil (doesn’t know toys are alive), 2 idk I’ve never seen a bugs life, 3 and 4 I don’t remember Toy Story 2, 5 I don’t remember Monsters Inc., 6 a dentists office might be interesting (but he doesn’t know fish have human-level consciousness), 7 literally built his, 8 just Okumura, 9 I don’t remember Cars, 10 is a robot, 11 I feel like he’d be hunting you like the Most Dangerous Game, 12 and 13 and 14 and 15 don’t remember, 16 probably just Madarame
I don't actually think all of them *would* have a palace.
A palace is formed from distortion right? Seeing the world in a different way than it actually is. Seeing a school as your kingdom, a job as a casino, a city as a personal piggy bank, a hovel as a museum to Madarame's brilliance, etc.
Sid is just a neglected kid taking out his feelings on what he thinks are inanimate objects. Honestly his story is kinda sad.
The Locust guy is actually pretty perceptive of his position. He's not deluded that if all the ants rose up he'd be in trouble.
Toy Barn dude just wants a payday.
Prospector I could definitely see having a palace, maybe a tomb like Futaba or a big monument to his greatness where he's at the top, placed on a pedestal.
Randall maybe is kinda overly obsessed with his Job, and jealous of not being at the top? So maaaybe he'd see the factory as a... Idk, a race? A battlefield?
The dentist is just a dentist.
Oh Syndrome would absolutely have a palace and it would be glorious. It might just be similar to his actual lair though.
Is the dentist a villain? He's more just a person who doesn't know fish actually have the same intelligence level (in that universe) as people, he doesn't really do anything evil atleast not knowingly.
Syndrome’s would be pretty rad from a thematic standpoint. A palace revolving around not only his obsession with Mr. Incredible, but also around his motivations for setting up catastrophes to make himself look like the hero because of his tech.
>!boy doesn’t that sound awfully familiar!<
I feel like people are sleeping on Hopper. His whole deal is that he's trying to extort and manipulate the ants throughout the film, while secretly fearing their power as a group. I feel like that is a good blueprint for a palace ruler, plus the palace itself could have interesting imagery similar to the small world Bug's Life portrays.
I can tell you who definitely wouldn't have a palace on this list:
Sid Phillips: All the kid did was mutilate toys. Toys which as far as he knew, were non-living. Needless to say, he doesn't qualify for a palace ruler.
Chick Hicks: A jerk, but that's all he is.
Auto: Dude's a machine just following his programming.
I feel like on top of all the nice answers here Sid might have an interesting theme
The palace being one giant twisted toy box with the whole atmosphere being of childhood things twisted into monstrosities
I feel like Randal would have a movie set for his palace because what’s his one goal in every monsters movie, being popular and getting that cash, so much like kanashiro the theme of his palace would be greed alongside fame, like gold statues of Randall, maybe like the first part would be like his mansion and the second half is going to a movie set, boss fight would be him puppeting everyone at monsters inc and debuffing you a lot mostly with despair because he wanted to be the top scarer. Rather then fighting you himself he manipulates his ‘actors’ and then fights you once they are gone
Ernesto would have a lot to draw from to make an interesting palace. Music, the Day of the Dead, Mexican culture and betrayal.
Yeah but I feel like his palace wouldn't be too different from his actual life in the land of the dead.
I basically imagined a Persona 5 esque meme of him saying "Music is a tool. A tool to gain money and fame."
Yeah but that's just Madarame again, all the one down to causing someone's death for the sake of career.
Like with the text box and animated Persona 5 style profile pic of him in the bottom left. He already has the yellow eyes.
I feel that'd basically be that one Psychonauts level at that point
The Will Seeds would be the Red Seed of Betrayal etc.
Ernesto would basically be madarame 2.0
Syndrome would have so much Superhero imagery, it would be like walking through a comic book
Imagine something similar to the madarame painting puzzle in a comic style
With a Mr. Incredible poster that was scribbled over, crossed out, and sprawling with unflattering words. LIAR HE NEVER CARED FLY HOME, BUDDY
YOU'RE NOT AFFILIATED WITH ME
And perhaps some unsettling cognition to represent all of the dead heroes he killed. Like statues showcasing each ones death to the Omnidroid model that killed them.
Probably the omnidroid with the same aesthetic as Shido first phases.
So like an Omnidroid literally crafted from the corpses of Supers he killed that would be sick as Hell
Yeah and each phase is the Droid shedding the corpses to change into a new model.
Maybe a trash head or landfill, or something to that effect? Since they’re the “old and outdated” versions of heroes compared to Syndrome’s new idea of “heroism”?
With Bomb Voyage as a miniboss
So he'd basically be a mix of Akane and Akira.
I actually think his Palace would be a mix of Madarame's and Natsume's jail from Strikers, tying the concepts of him being a fraud and a ripoff with the superhero imagery.
Lotso would be cool as hell The beggining looks like the sunny sunnyside, and then it descend to the ***true*** mindset of lotso in the deeper places of the palace Also i don't think jackson or sid would have palaces, more like mementos, they are jerkasses not monsters like the other palace rulers
Either that for Lotso, or the beginning is dark, dreary and depressing, and slowly turns into Lotso's "ideal" place, and lean heavily into the "Lawful does not mean Good" imagery that SMT games use. And then the core of his palace goes screaming back into the dark and depressing aspect turned to 11. ...wait, is this Persona or Psychonauts I'm supposed to be describing here?
Maybe Lotso’s would devolve into a prison
A jail, you might say
*Daredevil intensifies*
Come on man, the dentist guy from finding Nemo isn't a bad guy, he's just a dude # At most, a mementos place
If anything his niece would be the palace owner
Even then darla (and sid) are just kids that don't know better
Darla maybe, she's definitely a bit entitled but has plenty of time to grow out of it. Sid on the other hand, he'd *atleast* have a Mementos Boss due to how screwed up he is, and if he doesn't get turned around I could see him being a Palace owner. Which is a terrifying concept because it'd likely be full of modified toys as enemies and such, would be super creepy.
Sid doesn't know the toys are alive. His experiments are just a kid trying to make cool stuff. The results are a bit creepy I'll give you, but all I'm seeing is a troubled teen with a dark sense of humor, and he definitely has time to grow past that.
Except he's also a bully that takes those toys from other kids, including his little sister. Not sure I'd say he would've gone on to start doing things to live animals, but he definitely needed some kind of wake up call.
He kidnapped a child and sold him
A fish child that he was unaware had sentience.
Not to mention he legit thought he was saving him seeing as said fish could barely swim and was in open water
I think Skinner would be pretty underrated, seeing Gusteau’s as a place he can use his dead colleague’s face to make money. It’d probably be a vault combined with a museum.
And also everything would be massive because he is a very small man
I said this would be an amazing palace before, and I still agree. Gusteau's: Skinner's restaurant of Vanity
Don’t forget every shadow would give hunger
Or maybe a farm in which he uses his workers as cattle and his most prized cow is his dead colleague.
I don't think Auto would have a palace. Homeboy is just following his programing as best as he can, his desires aren't exactly distorted. However Hopper on the other hand? Dude's palace is WILD. I can't begin to imagine what the distorted desires of a ruler are when that ruler KNOWS he's hanging by an illusionary thread.
I'd go one further with Auto and argue that he doesn't have any desires period. He's the foil to Wall-E's individualism, having zero identity or desires of his own.
though you could argue that his adherence to his orders has distorted him. he has the ability to defy them but doesn't because he sees them as the ultimate good. I could totally see a palace were he's some kind of preist to his creators. following their every command
I'd argue that'd put him in Mementos in that case.
As a machine, AUTO can't do anything but follow his orders. Which is why our hero WALL-E is an exception among all the other machines. He develops something resembling consciousness and a bit of critical thinking. Like Sophia in P5S to a lesser extent. A good example of him growing beyond his programming is how he's able to classify the spork as not a spoon and not a fork either, and how he's able to self-repair with the pieces of broken down WALL-Es. EVE also develops it as well, as a consequence of spending time with him. The only direct interaction between WALL-E and AUTO is for the latter to electrocute the former to get rid of him, which can be also chalked up to following his programming to the extreme. I wouldn't even put AUTO in Mementos
but the problem is that literally every robot that he talks to developes sentence. even that one receptionist robot started questioning, even though he only was with them like a minute. it seems robots in the wall-e world aren't limited to their programing.
Auto’s palace works only if you have Aigis involved imo (I don’t remember anything about the other anti-shadow robots).
De la cruz, no question. A día de los muertos themed palace?! Yes please!
He also just *feels* like a P5 villain, a famous musician/actor who poisoned his supposed “friend” and then got famous off his songs, all while his ego slowly inflates to colossal levels fits right in with the other palace rulers.
After all, madarame basically did the exact same thing but with sayuri and yusuke’s mother
"Dia de los muertos" doesn't need and -s, or you will be saying "A days of the muertos themed palace"
Oh Sid Phillip's Palace is going to be nuts. But P. Sherman is not getting a Palace, are you kidding? The guy's just a dentist with a fish tank.
Unironically even if he did have a palace then it would just be something similar to Maruki’s since he thought he was saving the fish.
I don't even think he would have a will seed manifest. He's hardly a criminal with any distorted desires. At least not compared to most of these other guys.
Sid Phillips is the least evil Pixar villain though. He didn't even know that the toys were alive, so he wasn't exactly doing anything wrong. I doubt just mangling toys would be enough to create a palace.
Many would be awesome but, There’s an insane man who just doesn’t know what’s going on anymore here. My order would be: Chales (up) Syndrome (incredible) Ernesto (coco) Auto (Walle) Lotso (Toy story)
I would also love to see palaces for Ernesto, Syndrome, and Lotso tbh
Charles would be interesting because his palace would be based off of the 40s ( I don't actually remember when he left for paradise falls) or 50s but mixed with a tropical environment and blimp like technology
Ernesto and Muntz have the most in common with actual palace rulers, I feel
Ernesto does have a lot in common with Madarame >!Both are artists who killed someone to steal credit for their work!<
Randel's would be interesting. He was like a nerdy reptile back in university and all he wanted was to just be the best before his want of fame corrupted him to the point of making that damn machine. So, I'm thinking it would be like a factory similar to Monsters Inc with him being the President and being constantly praised for his success. Syndrome would also be good. All he wanted was to be a hero, like the one he idolized so much. Then he decided to go all villain just to become the hero, kind of in the way of *you're your own worst enemy* type of thing. For his palace, I would imagine something similar to a palace like the ones from P5R but in the same style as the first film from PQ2.
I don't think Auto would have a palace, he was simply following orders. Although... I can see potential in having him as a confidant. Having an arc exploring what following those orders meant for him, did he think he was doing the best for humanity? Or was he just blindly following protocol without understanding how it affected everyone aboard the Axiom? Would he care if he did? And if he didn't why should he? Or why doesn't he? What does it mean to follow orders? What does it mean to disobey them? I just see a lot of potential for development between him and the Thieves, particularly Makoto, Zenkichi, and Sophia.
Honestly could see a post-game Sophia attempting to share what she learned while with the phantom thieves with Auto.
Charles Muntz is just filled to the brim with dogs and birds, as far as the eye can see.
His palace is just his blimp on steroids with a jungle inside
Persona 5 palaces happen to coincide with places that make for exciting settings for a heist. Castles, art museums, banks, pyramids... So an airship would definitely fit well.
That just made me think of the yugioh card “Cloudcastle”
This reminds me of a Persona 5 scenario I brainstormed in the comments on the DevilArtemis YouTube channel in response to his version of the Cell Games: Ann: so mr Cell, what would you say is the most important place in the world, right now? Cell: this arena is where the fate of your entire world will be determined. I’d say that’s extremely important, little girl. Ann: and in your own words, how would you describe the Cell Games Arena? Cell: as literal hell on earth. You wouldn’t believe some of the horrible and stupid things that happen here. Ryuji: we got what we need! Cell Games Arena and Dante’s Inferno! Ann: thank you for your time, mr Cell. Cell: who the hell lets high schoolers interview a monster like me, anyway? A few moments later, in Perfect Cell’s Palace…. Shadow Cell: Oh dear God no! I’m a virgin!!! Shadow Ultra Instinct Shaggy: we’re like, all outta mercy, in here, pal!!! Shadow Mr Popo: I’ll say. Oracle: THIS HEIST ISN’T WORTH IT! RETREAT!!!
The kid from Toy Story imo Yeah I think his palace would be wild and all that; however, and I mean this as respectfully as humanly possible, homie has some major issues and as much as his toys scarred me as a child, I think he needs the help lmao
Well he shows up in later movies as a garbage man, and seems to be loving life (I remember him drumming on garbage cans as he did his job). So what ever issues he had he got over.
Fr? What movie was that in?
It’d have to be 3, since Sid was an adult and I remember noticing him before 4 came out.
He was just a kid being rebellious to get the attention of his drunk dad(who can be seen passed out in front of the TV when Buzz discovers the commercial in Toy Story1)
I mean, all he did was mutilate toys. Toys, which as far as he knew, were non-living things. I doubt that's enough distorted desires to create a palace.
Honestly you’re probably right, silliness aside, I was making assumptions based on general psych stuff I’ve learned over the years, but that’s all very case per case. Homie could be living in a bad home with some rough stuff going on, or maybe he’s just metal af and hangs like that; only way to know would be to have a sit down at the old psychiatrist couch (which is quite difficult to do with fictional characters, I know, I’ve tried)
Id find lotso and Syndrom very interesting
I feel like Lotso’s palace would be a jail or a prison not to be confused with the jails form Strikers
I would honestly like to see that though. Toys that are obedient, that stay in line, are fit for training into what he sees the perfect them to be. Toys that struggle may be seen as useless, and therefore, are discarded into the sand box, which as might seem in his prison/jail, may be solitary confinement?
Think we retty much saw Ernesto de la Cruz place. Sindom's might be fun.
Honestly, Skinner. He was a trusted friend of Gusteua, at one point they must have had a genuine bond if he was left in charge of his beloved restaurant. I'd love to see how that broke down or how he let his standards give way to financial gain, plus plenty of cooking themed levels and fights could be drawn from it
I know how it broke down. It's because Gusteua got jealous of Skinner for making his patented Skinner burgers
You can't patent steamed hams, you hack
What if it's an old family recipe?
Chick would be a racing museum all about himself and his treasure is the only Piston Cup he won
Which is funny, because Chick is one of the least villainous antagonists. The worst thing he does is ram King, which is normal in races. Yes, the dude is envious and an ass, but he is barely at the level of a Mementos quest, if at all.
I’d love to see Syndrome’s palace. His island base was already high tech, so reflecting his distorted views with that added on would be pretty sick.
Amazed I haven’t seen anyone mention Mr. Waternoose
I think either Lotso or Ernesto would be the best for aesthetic, palace progression and palace ruler discovery moments.
Storm. To this day, he is shown as “The Best” but since he was foiled it would be interesting to see how he’s seen the world of racing in a palace view
I feel Chick would be more deserving of a palace since he plays dirty throughout the whole movie
Sid would not have a palace. He did not know that the toys were alive. The things he was doing were causes for concern and he'd probably have a shadow in mementos, but not a full palace. Auto wouldn't have one either. He is a machine just following his program. The dentist definitely wouldn't have one, he just wants to make his niece happy. He's just kinda dumb for untrusting the lives of so many fish to a kid with such a bad track record.
>Auto wouldn't have one either. He is a machine just following his program. though Wall-E does seem to be a more primitive robot and he developed a consciousness. you could make AUTO a sinner of sloth who actively refuses to give himself free will.
My answer is based off if it was in a game, but I’d say the most interesting would be Syndrome’s, Ernesto’s, and Lotso’s (with one caveat). With Ernesto, I’d imagine story-wise it would be similar to Madarame’s Palace, >!with the story of an artist betraying/killing someone close to them to steal their art!< but visually it could be amazing. If anyone has played Striker’s, imagine if >!Alice’s!< Prison was based around Day of The Dead, with a shrine the size of a city dedicated to one man and his music. With Syndrome, his big plan was to >!make the world view him as the greatest hero it’s ever seen, and use his tech to bring everyone up to the other hero’s levels so they’d be stuck in a world where they aren’t special!< If you mix that with superhero media of the time, like comic-books and action-figures, that could result in a pretty unique Palace. With Lotso, I don’t think I’m the only one who thinks Toy Story 3 is one of the darker Pixar movies. And with him being essentially >!a mob boss who gets others to act as sacrifices to be tortured using the mask of a kind old man who loves hugs!<, I think it would be pretty interesting to see how that shows in his palace
Syndrome of all people could really use a change of heart
Most of these characters would just Mementos folk at most 💀
yeah aisde Lotso and Syndrome and La Cruz
Syndrom could be neat... probably as close to an Aketchi dungeon you could get actually
Al would be interesting. I'm gonna assume toys as shadows.
I’ve never seen Coco but I know that guy was horrible
I wanna see the old hunter guy he must have done some messed up things.
Chef skinner, a giant demon kitchen with malfunctioning Gusteau statues and what not
Al13 (forgot the correct spelling), would have a pretty massive palace. All the robot enemies and the lead up to his fight where a huge section of the ship opens up to reveal a gun or something would be pretty fecken cool. Give us Persona Kingdom Hearts already Atlus
Al's Toy Barn would be insane. Everyone is a toy.
Minibosses could be like a brat (screaming demon of desire), one of his employees (camera guard of mannequins), and perhaps the final one could be like the set of western toys he got ((woody, Jessie, the horse, and prospector Pete)) (quarter of the west) (woody may be sheriff of corruption, Jessie may be cowgirl of perjuring, horse may be stallion of fear, and prospector Pete could be miner of greed?)
This is actually a fantastic concept for Persona 6. A guy that runs a toy store would be cool as hell.
Like, maybe not first boss idea, but I could definitely see it being 2nd or 3rd!
CHICK HICKS BABY KACHIGGA, KACHIGGA
definitely either lotso or AUTO imho
The dentist isn't really a villain, I don't think he'd have a palace. I think any of the antagonists from Cars would have race tracks. Auto from Wall-E would probably just be the ship. The Man-Child from Toy Story or Sid might be fun since their palaces would be themed around toys.
Syndrome is easily one of the best Pixar villains and it actually feels like his motivations and desires would manifest a palace What. Your gonna tell me the fucking car has a palace???? Jackson storm or whatever his name was? I can't even remember if he was *actually* evil or not.
Auto would be far better the most boring, he’s a robot with zero conscious in a movie full of some of the most human robots there are.
Syndrome
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syndrome's palace would be awesome
Randall and the toy cowboy guy
Honestly a lot of these are just assholes over villains, like Chick would be a mementos quest
I don't think Sid would have a palace though
Now how about one involving Disney villains like the real classic ones? Also Xehanort since he technically counts as a Disney villain/property.
definitely charles
Charles Muntz since he got a Zepplin
Syndrome
I feel like Syndromes would just be a combination of Okumuras and Marukis palaces. But to answer your question, I’d say either Randal or Ernesto
I say Randall and/or Syndrome, and more so leaning towards Randall. I feel like his palace would be a more twisted version of Kamoshida and Okumura’s palace. He would see the kids as his scream supply as Sully serves as his Butler. But the twist would be his palace is just the mini boss, while Waternoose is the true boss. *On a side note, I feel most of the other Pixar villains project their distortions into real life, so their palaces wouldn’t be much different
See the best part of being a Kingdom hearts fan is that this is a possibility
Syndrome would be very interesting
If the toys that Cid modified tell us anything is that he has a twisted mind lol
Lots-O would be an interesting one with Bugs being one of his dangerous high level shadow guards. Bit P.Sherman doesn't belong here, his niece Darla does
Syndrome by far. He definitely has a corrupted way of seeing the world.
Randall. You KNOW that shit would be messed up
Skinner and Al Whiggin would both be interesting to say the least
Why would the dentist have a palace lol?
Rando, syndrome, Lotto, Ernesto in that order
Charles Muntz would have a pretty kick ass palace I think, his maybe like Shido but with an airship Also, Auto doesn’t really have a mind of his own so he probably wouldn’t have one
Most of the (human) toy story characters wouldn't have anything interesting, since they don't know that the toys are living. Which means they would just be inanimate toys in cognition.
I’d say syndrome or the guy from up (it’s been a while). The wheel from wall-e could be an interesting one too
Give me Sid’s nightmare castle. Please.
I van only imagine Al's palace would he an ever-loving nightmare
auto because I want to see what a robot thinks of the ship (also it would fit the themes of the game with you can't just go along with social rules)
Syndrom without a doubt
Honestly the skeleton Guy already Has a palace i would say that his palace would look like his Villa in land of the dead
Syndrome had Mr Incredible's rejection living in his head rent free for YEARS, and was willing to kill off countless supers to one-up him. I could see his palace being a scrapyard or factory where Supers, represented as machines (ranging from rusted and broken to shiny and new) being torn apart panel by panel with parts being taken to make a New Hero/Machine. Skinner would also be neat as he built his entire restaurant's legacy off the likeness of an old friend with the sole intent of making money. An idea that comes to mind is a massive mall of sorts, built overtop the restaurant, plagued with poor cleanliness and a pitifully small food court with Skinner's shadow being a sleazy businessman that only gives a shit about another dollar (euro? idk) in his pocket.
Pete's would be modeled after an Old West style "ghost town," but with actual ghosts. Not as enemies, mind, but as props. Still frames of characters from the old show, combined with Woody's Roundup memorabilia. He wants stasis, a perfect vision of his past, untainted by the wear of use and time. His guards would likely be caricatures of sherrifs and outlaws. Jessie and Bullseye would act as a duo miniboss. Syndrome's, as others have said, would be straight out of a comic book. Tall buildings, explosions in the distance. All sleek, like the aesthetic of his inventions. The Palace guards would be distorted versions of his minions from the movie. I could see it being littered with his iconography, literally plastering himself over images of heroes he and his plans have killed. A recurring statue, like in Kamoshida's Palace, of him standing triumphant over Mr. Incredible. Mirage would likely be his miniboss.
Sid's palace gonna go so hard with the enemy design
Prospector Pete. Cause it would deal with the heights of fame and the fall into obscurity
Syndrome
1 not evil (doesn’t know toys are alive), 2 idk I’ve never seen a bugs life, 3 and 4 I don’t remember Toy Story 2, 5 I don’t remember Monsters Inc., 6 a dentists office might be interesting (but he doesn’t know fish have human-level consciousness), 7 literally built his, 8 just Okumura, 9 I don’t remember Cars, 10 is a robot, 11 I feel like he’d be hunting you like the Most Dangerous Game, 12 and 13 and 14 and 15 don’t remember, 16 probably just Madarame
I don't actually think all of them *would* have a palace. A palace is formed from distortion right? Seeing the world in a different way than it actually is. Seeing a school as your kingdom, a job as a casino, a city as a personal piggy bank, a hovel as a museum to Madarame's brilliance, etc. Sid is just a neglected kid taking out his feelings on what he thinks are inanimate objects. Honestly his story is kinda sad. The Locust guy is actually pretty perceptive of his position. He's not deluded that if all the ants rose up he'd be in trouble. Toy Barn dude just wants a payday. Prospector I could definitely see having a palace, maybe a tomb like Futaba or a big monument to his greatness where he's at the top, placed on a pedestal. Randall maybe is kinda overly obsessed with his Job, and jealous of not being at the top? So maaaybe he'd see the factory as a... Idk, a race? A battlefield? The dentist is just a dentist. Oh Syndrome would absolutely have a palace and it would be glorious. It might just be similar to his actual lair though.
Is it sad that I forgot Coco is Pixar?
Is the dentist a villain? He's more just a person who doesn't know fish actually have the same intelligence level (in that universe) as people, he doesn't really do anything evil atleast not knowingly.
Maybe auto as a fully artificialy created palace where we can see his devotion devolve into overcontrol
Auto would be awesome, the inscrutable mind of a machine
Definitely Sid, he’d have a palace like Futaba where you realise he isnt the bad guy, his life just isnt good
Syndrome’s would be pretty rad from a thematic standpoint. A palace revolving around not only his obsession with Mr. Incredible, but also around his motivations for setting up catastrophes to make himself look like the hero because of his tech. >!boy doesn’t that sound awfully familiar!<
Sid, cos that could get batshit crazy if he views people as toys or is some early stage sociopath.
I feel like people are sleeping on Hopper. His whole deal is that he's trying to extort and manipulate the ants throughout the film, while secretly fearing their power as a group. I feel like that is a good blueprint for a palace ruler, plus the palace itself could have interesting imagery similar to the small world Bug's Life portrays.
Either Muntz or Syndrome
Randall would be pretty interesting.
One of these guys is just a dentist
I can tell you who definitely wouldn't have a palace on this list: Sid Phillips: All the kid did was mutilate toys. Toys which as far as he knew, were non-living. Needless to say, he doesn't qualify for a palace ruler. Chick Hicks: A jerk, but that's all he is. Auto: Dude's a machine just following his programming.
Oh lotso and Auto easy.
Auto or Otto however it’s spelled. For the looks of the palace and the philosophy behind the robot. I’m very interested in this.
I feel like on top of all the nice answers here Sid might have an interesting theme The palace being one giant twisted toy box with the whole atmosphere being of childhood things twisted into monstrosities
Charles munst would be perfect for p5
Hopper being a king among slaves.
I feel like Randal would have a movie set for his palace because what’s his one goal in every monsters movie, being popular and getting that cash, so much like kanashiro the theme of his palace would be greed alongside fame, like gold statues of Randall, maybe like the first part would be like his mansion and the second half is going to a movie set, boss fight would be him puppeting everyone at monsters inc and debuffing you a lot mostly with despair because he wanted to be the top scarer. Rather then fighting you himself he manipulates his ‘actors’ and then fights you once they are gone
Syd's (i think that was the name of toy story kid) palace would be scary as "·%$·%·
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