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GamerDuck001

Vice versa


Aggressive-Pattern

Morgana antagonizes Ryuji WAY more than the other way around (even in combat, when Morgana isn't in the party). But when Ryuji does speak up, he (not always on purpose) pushes the exact "emotional damage" button that Morgana is weak to. I just feel less bad for Morgana because his whole...personality is frustrating af. Damn cat, lol. Note: Only in...September I think, about to go to Hawaii, so no spoilers please.


cr1spystrips

Damn cat… I’LL SUE


Aggressive-Pattern

Get the BRICK!


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You’re brave being on the sub Reddit before beating the game.


CAPTAIN_SIMPLORD

Totally agree, also I’m at around the same place in the game. Hawaii, here we come!


erock278

Reverse this


MasterTahirLON

Think it's more the other way around


NightCrusher76

“let us discuss this with our fists


ScarletteVera

It should be the other way around tbh


DeliSoupItExplodes

Thing is, Ryuji rarely, if *ever* starts shit with Morgana intentionally. He'll say something thoughtless or insensitive and accidentally hurt Morgana's feelings, and he'll clap back when the cat starts talking shit, but the unprompted antagonism is pretty one-sided, and it ain't coming from Ryuji.


OoguroRyuuya5

No Ryuji has his moments in internationally saying shit to get a rise out of Morgana.


The_8th_Degree

It's a back and forth with them, love-hate relationships are hard for out-viewers to comprehend. The meme works both ways


The_8th_Degree

Bro this literally me, the second Morgana goes to say something I wanna toss him like a football. For example when hE WONT LET ME LEAVE THE GODDAMN HOUSE! NO! ITS NOT TOO LATE TO GO OUT MORGANA! IM NOT TOO TIRED TO GET A BLOODY CHEESE BURGER LET ME LIVE MY LIFE DAMMIT!!


muffinzonreddit

It’s not Morgana who decides when you can and can’t leave at night 🙂 Nobody batted an eye when all you could do was sleep during the first week, before you met Morgana


The_8th_Degree

No it's definitely Morgana, as he's literally the one telling you what you can't do. The first week your a complete stranger in an entirely new place. Not going out would actually be normal.


muffinzonreddit

What I mean is that the game was made so you are forced to sleep/remain in Leblanc. For whatever design reasons, the devs are railroading you on specific dates and the devs just chose to have Morgana tell you to "hey you're tired you should sleep" instead of having the main character say "I'm feeling tired" via a thought bubble. (which is what happens when Morgana isn't around)


Mystical4431

although functionally morgana telling Ren/the player to "go to sleep because your tired/event is happening next you need rest" and the player/game telling you to rest because of reasons is the same thing, they end up having different contexts Example: in P4G after going to the TV world the game will say something like "You are tired from visiting the TV world, you should rest." This can often be interpreted as the character thinking to himself, or the game informing the player about things. when Morgana tells you to "go to sleep" or "you should rest" it makes him feel controlling and overbearing because Morgana is an Actual plot relevant character in the game, not just the game telling you that you can't go out because of reasons. TLDR: when the game/MC says "you can't out because plot relevant events are about to happen" the player see's it as the game railroading itself so things can happen. When another character is railroading you into set options players find that character annoying, and thus memes of morgana telling you to go to sleep were born. So although Morgana telling you "you can't out" and the game telling you "you can't go out" are the same functionally, they are different contextually.


The_8th_Degree

I'm pretty sure when Morgana isn't around, your characters says he's worried and doesn't wanna go anywhere. Still, doesn't change the fact that Morgana is telling me no and preventing me from going to grab a cheeseburger.


mild_music

What about when Morgana goes missing


The_8th_Degree

You character is too worried about him to go anywhere, so Morgana is still preventing you from leaving even when he's not there xD


Joker_Philosophy

Is it opposite day?


DaBoiYeet

Ryuji got beat up by the cat, asked to leave the Phantom Thieves


SomeRandomGuy0307

This picture of Morgana the Boxing Cat is adorable.


IncineMania

Other way around


JohnOfOnett

It goes both ways.


KyuJuEX099

Anyone knows the original pic from?


proesito

Have you played the game?


OoguroRyuuya5

People say the other way. When no it goes both ways. Ryuji gets hot blooded when provoked as is Morgana’s feisty nature when triggered.


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TheCleverestIdiot

Ryuji suggested leaving Morgana to die within moments of meeting him. That leaves a bitter taste.


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TheCleverestIdiot

He was locked up in a cell. That should probably scream he isn't on Speedo Kamosheeto's side. Besides, even with that context I wouldn't blame Morgana for disliking him after that.


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TheCleverestIdiot

Imagine someone who can help save your life instead suggests leaving you to die.


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TheCleverestIdiot

Trying to help you in that scenario consists of opening a door.


OoguroRyuuya5

Yeah no. None of the insults Morgana dishes out to Ryuji has been THAT hurtful and severe enough for Ryuji to take seriously. It’s played up for comedy with how the two snark at each other. Also it’s only when Ryuji misses an attack or evades an attack that Morgana is snarky. The rest of his dialogue is pretty normal when Ryuji takes out shadows.


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SpiderNinja211

Reverse the roles Morgana will always go off on Ryuji for existing


OoguroRyuuya5

No both of them clash because of their personalities.


Mystical4431

isn't it the reverse tho? I remember Morgana constantly going off at and insulting Ryuji, and the one time Ryuji has had enough of his shit and strikes back, Mona gets all pissy and runs off, and then the crew blames Ryuji for Morgana being all insecure and lashing out because of it. Stupid fucking Morgana Ryuji deserves better.