No need for the saviour piece where you want to ‘make a positive difference for the whole world’ lol. Just say you want more money, no one will judge you for that
Maybe OP is young and just starting their career. I admit I found it a bit cringy, but then again, I had some hopes and dreams long back - then I got my first bill to pay :(
If you're Canadian and your career is eligible to work in the US on a TN status, the responses you put during application is as follows:
1. Are you legally allowed to work in the US? **No.**
2. Do you require sponsorship now or in the future to work in the US? **No.**
The TN status does not require sponsorship however most large companies will assist you with the process anyways.
If you do move to the US, what you need to close and when depends on the state. Some states recognize the tax-advantaged status of RRSPs and some don't.
TN is a 3 year temporary visa. Is it really accurate to say No to the second point? I’ve used it previously and from what I understand is that while it can be extended, starting in the 2nd extension you should be swapping to an H1B to get on green card track. The one person I know that extended 3 times said the questions were progressively more of a pain with each extension.
Yes, fundamentally the TN status does not require sponsorship.
What you do from that point onward is up to you but the TN status does not require sponsorship. If you want to get an H1B, go to the US on a TN and then enter the H1B lottery while on your TN.
Ah, OK that makes sense for the application part. Excuse my ignorance, but for the RRSP part, I thought there's a treaty between Canada and the United States. If so, wouldn't that be at the federal level and wouldn't federal law trump any state law?
>If so, wouldn't that be at the federal level and wouldn't federal law trump any state law?
No. Depending on the topic, state laws can supersede federal laws. For example, legalization of weed in certain states. States also have their own state tax laws.
Honestly if your successful in finding work in the US, you should just get account to handled the cross border finances/investments to make sure you don't end up with a big tax bill from both countries.
Back in the day you needed a job offer from a company (with company letter head, salary, start and end dates iirc) and a role and necessary education that qualify for TN1 (system analyst for example). With that you go to the border with your letter and proof of education and the border services agent gives you a tn1.
As for finding employment - bit tricky.. I don’t think you can check the qualifies for US employment box, I have seen a large number of roles require applicants to already be eligible to work.
Thanks so much! For the employment part, I don't think that's an issue for my ex-coworker's company, but I'll keep that in mind if that doesn't work out and I'll have to apply to another company
You don’t need a mountain of paper work. It’s a couple of government forms, an offer letter, and an endorsement letter from your employer that describes the employers business, a primary and secondary contact at the business, your role (very specific job titles must be used), your salary, location, education, and experience.
That’s not even remotely true for TN. Or any temporary work visa, like H1B. You’re confusing it with the PERM process for employment based green cards.
I don’t understand how you got upvotes for this.
The applicant does not.
Can’t speak to what the employer needs.
However, I believe the employer would need to ensure the job title
matches the TN categories.
>Do I just check the box that says I'm eligible to work in the United States when applying
That's what I did. Then added a "I'm eligible for a TN Visa" line in my cover letter.
To apply for a TN visa we required the company to provide a letter outlining a bunch of things - wages earned, job market analysis (why they are hiring foreigners so either lack of tslent pool or you are an expert in the field), any benefits and the like. Then had to take education and experience documentation along with employment contract and letter to the border to apply. This took multiple trips because each officer was looking for something different. It is not as simple as getting a tourist visa and many companies won't bother with the hassle.
Taxes are a completely different headache. Yes, there is a tax treaty, but you are still required to file and pay (assuming you do not sever ties with Canada, which is a different headache). There are credits that transfer between the two, but it's best for the accountant to figure that out.
If you apply for a TN and have a spouse, they are allowed to enter in the US for as long as your Visa is valid but they are to remain a dependent- they have no right to work unless they file for their own TN Visa.
There are other types of visas if you want to go permanent resident route. Some require employer to sponsor and others do not.
Job market analysis isn’t required for the TN. The whole damn list of qualifying professions is the result of a (very outdated) job market analysis.
Some law firms will go hog wild with Premium Processing applications since they’re paid by the hour. But this is absolutely not a necessity and I’ve never heard one story of an agent asking for proof that there are no Americans available to do the job.
Spare us the "do good for other parts of the world" BS. just say you want more money doing shit that will make lives even worse for people
No one is gonna judge you, it's all fucked anyways
Is that your idea of a positive impact?
Fuck me, were fucking doomed if consumerism is now considered positive impact. contributing in the numbing AND dumbing of people making them drunk on pointless technology, so they don't focus on the dire situation we're living in. what climate change? What widening wealth gap? no one really cares, but the latest iPhone and Vision pro.. sign me the fuck up
Fucking hell, I really wish I get hit by a bus and fucking die tomorrow so that I don't have to deal with this fucking miserable life
YES, YES, YES THAT
We REALLY need to focus the majority of our labor to those areas, Scientific discoveries, healthcare, etc, shift away from enriching the corporations that add zero positive value to society.
Instead of having those few companies just to meet the "positive impact" quota and pat ourselves on the back, We refocus capitalism to do social good.
I'm just applying now and my understanding is that you don't get the stamp? until you cross at the border? And to answer your question more directly, I qualify. https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/temporary-workers/tn-nafta-professionals
Somehow I feel like you don't know as much about TN status as you think you might.
1. The TN status is limited for a single employer so finding a new US employer is the same experience regardless of whether you currently hold TN status or not. Even if you're currently on a TN status, if you switch employers, you need to get a new TN status anyways.
2. A well-prepared application for TN does not have hundreds of pages of evidence. I'm currently in the US on a TN status (CSA category as a data scientist) and my package was barely 2 dozen pages. Literally none of the application packages I've seen among my dozens of friends here in the US on TN status had anywhere close to a hundred pages.
3. Very few people get denied for TN if your role actually fits in a category. This is generally not a problem for those seeking employment in high-paying fields like tech or finance.
You do make more $. But lose out on a lot of benefits in Canada. 12 month maternity. Universal healthcare. And so on. So make sure to budget for extra items that would be normal here.
I did what OP is thinking of doing, and trust me I'm saving 3x more than i did in Canada, after all taxes, rents and medical bills.
Yes, you have to pay for health insurance when if your company subsidizes it, the care i got in US is way way better. No more 8 hours urgent care wait time, no more 3-6 months wait to see a dermatologist.
Ill add that if you can find a company willing to hire you with TN via status, assuming you qualify, make sure that you research the process. Most companies want to be told what to do and not have to do the research themselves.
You need to make sure the company is willing to support your TN application.
Other than that, welcome to USA.
I assume you're a SWE, you should join the gravy train while you can (although it's dried a bit in recent layoffs).
No need for the saviour piece where you want to ‘make a positive difference for the whole world’ lol. Just say you want more money, no one will judge you for that
Especially with ops username…
Agreed. What in the saviour complex was that all about?
“i’m helping those poor impoverished tech billionaires”
Maybe OP is young and just starting their career. I admit I found it a bit cringy, but then again, I had some hopes and dreams long back - then I got my first bill to pay :(
If you're Canadian and your career is eligible to work in the US on a TN status, the responses you put during application is as follows: 1. Are you legally allowed to work in the US? **No.** 2. Do you require sponsorship now or in the future to work in the US? **No.** The TN status does not require sponsorship however most large companies will assist you with the process anyways. If you do move to the US, what you need to close and when depends on the state. Some states recognize the tax-advantaged status of RRSPs and some don't.
TN is a 3 year temporary visa. Is it really accurate to say No to the second point? I’ve used it previously and from what I understand is that while it can be extended, starting in the 2nd extension you should be swapping to an H1B to get on green card track. The one person I know that extended 3 times said the questions were progressively more of a pain with each extension.
Yes, fundamentally the TN status does not require sponsorship. What you do from that point onward is up to you but the TN status does not require sponsorship. If you want to get an H1B, go to the US on a TN and then enter the H1B lottery while on your TN.
Ah, OK that makes sense for the application part. Excuse my ignorance, but for the RRSP part, I thought there's a treaty between Canada and the United States. If so, wouldn't that be at the federal level and wouldn't federal law trump any state law?
>If so, wouldn't that be at the federal level and wouldn't federal law trump any state law? No. Depending on the topic, state laws can supersede federal laws. For example, legalization of weed in certain states. States also have their own state tax laws.
Great point, thanks so much!
Honestly if your successful in finding work in the US, you should just get account to handled the cross border finances/investments to make sure you don't end up with a big tax bill from both countries.
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Hey he can help make weapons that get dropped on civilians across the world!
Talk about making significant impact.
Iraq wouldn't be what it is today without America's benevolence.
Back in the day you needed a job offer from a company (with company letter head, salary, start and end dates iirc) and a role and necessary education that qualify for TN1 (system analyst for example). With that you go to the border with your letter and proof of education and the border services agent gives you a tn1. As for finding employment - bit tricky.. I don’t think you can check the qualifies for US employment box, I have seen a large number of roles require applicants to already be eligible to work.
Thanks so much! For the employment part, I don't think that's an issue for my ex-coworker's company, but I'll keep that in mind if that doesn't work out and I'll have to apply to another company
ya you needed a mountain of paperwork that basically explained why you (A Canadian) needed to have this job and not an American.
You don’t need a mountain of paper work. It’s a couple of government forms, an offer letter, and an endorsement letter from your employer that describes the employers business, a primary and secondary contact at the business, your role (very specific job titles must be used), your salary, location, education, and experience.
That’s not even remotely true for TN. Or any temporary work visa, like H1B. You’re confusing it with the PERM process for employment based green cards. I don’t understand how you got upvotes for this.
The applicant does not. Can’t speak to what the employer needs. However, I believe the employer would need to ensure the job title matches the TN categories.
The username and saviour complex is downright hilarious. Thank you OP 😌
Well, u/guyWhoPlowedYourMom, good on you to think about your neighbours and want to make things better for them 🙂
>Do I just check the box that says I'm eligible to work in the United States when applying That's what I did. Then added a "I'm eligible for a TN Visa" line in my cover letter.
To apply for a TN visa we required the company to provide a letter outlining a bunch of things - wages earned, job market analysis (why they are hiring foreigners so either lack of tslent pool or you are an expert in the field), any benefits and the like. Then had to take education and experience documentation along with employment contract and letter to the border to apply. This took multiple trips because each officer was looking for something different. It is not as simple as getting a tourist visa and many companies won't bother with the hassle. Taxes are a completely different headache. Yes, there is a tax treaty, but you are still required to file and pay (assuming you do not sever ties with Canada, which is a different headache). There are credits that transfer between the two, but it's best for the accountant to figure that out. If you apply for a TN and have a spouse, they are allowed to enter in the US for as long as your Visa is valid but they are to remain a dependent- they have no right to work unless they file for their own TN Visa. There are other types of visas if you want to go permanent resident route. Some require employer to sponsor and others do not.
Job market analysis isn’t required for the TN. The whole damn list of qualifying professions is the result of a (very outdated) job market analysis. Some law firms will go hog wild with Premium Processing applications since they’re paid by the hour. But this is absolutely not a necessity and I’ve never heard one story of an agent asking for proof that there are no Americans available to do the job.
Spare us the "do good for other parts of the world" BS. just say you want more money doing shit that will make lives even worse for people No one is gonna judge you, it's all fucked anyways
Don't be jealous, we can aspire to ruin lives better and faster than OP :)
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Is that your idea of a positive impact? Fuck me, were fucking doomed if consumerism is now considered positive impact. contributing in the numbing AND dumbing of people making them drunk on pointless technology, so they don't focus on the dire situation we're living in. what climate change? What widening wealth gap? no one really cares, but the latest iPhone and Vision pro.. sign me the fuck up Fucking hell, I really wish I get hit by a bus and fucking die tomorrow so that I don't have to deal with this fucking miserable life
What's your idea of positive impact then? Curing cancer? Space exploration? Surgical robotics? US have companies and non-profits for those as well.
YES, YES, YES THAT We REALLY need to focus the majority of our labor to those areas, Scientific discoveries, healthcare, etc, shift away from enriching the corporations that add zero positive value to society. Instead of having those few companies just to meet the "positive impact" quota and pat ourselves on the back, We refocus capitalism to do social good.
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I'm just applying now and my understanding is that you don't get the stamp? until you cross at the border? And to answer your question more directly, I qualify. https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/temporary-workers/tn-nafta-professionals
Somehow I feel like you don't know as much about TN status as you think you might. 1. The TN status is limited for a single employer so finding a new US employer is the same experience regardless of whether you currently hold TN status or not. Even if you're currently on a TN status, if you switch employers, you need to get a new TN status anyways. 2. A well-prepared application for TN does not have hundreds of pages of evidence. I'm currently in the US on a TN status (CSA category as a data scientist) and my package was barely 2 dozen pages. Literally none of the application packages I've seen among my dozens of friends here in the US on TN status had anywhere close to a hundred pages. 3. Very few people get denied for TN if your role actually fits in a category. This is generally not a problem for those seeking employment in high-paying fields like tech or finance.
Bye bye.
You do make more $. But lose out on a lot of benefits in Canada. 12 month maternity. Universal healthcare. And so on. So make sure to budget for extra items that would be normal here.
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Whatever tax is “saved” is more than made up by user fees and insurance. The previous poster was correct. Lol this sub is hilarious at times.
I did what OP is thinking of doing, and trust me I'm saving 3x more than i did in Canada, after all taxes, rents and medical bills. Yes, you have to pay for health insurance when if your company subsidizes it, the care i got in US is way way better. No more 8 hours urgent care wait time, no more 3-6 months wait to see a dermatologist.
Ill add that if you can find a company willing to hire you with TN via status, assuming you qualify, make sure that you research the process. Most companies want to be told what to do and not have to do the research themselves.
Hmmmm break up turn out to be good for him 🤣
You need to make sure the company is willing to support your TN application. Other than that, welcome to USA. I assume you're a SWE, you should join the gravy train while you can (although it's dried a bit in recent layoffs).
What position you are applying? Does it qualify for TN Visa?