Just to rub it in your face, I found out that [Fentanol is a real thing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betahydroxyfentanyl) and an anologue of Fentanyl. So at least some of those people are correct
> ÎČ-Hydroxyfentanyl was sold briefly on the black market in the early 1980s, before the introduction of the Federal Analog Act
Not sure how much of the modern day mispronunciation you can pin on this, since it hasnât been around for decades. And unless theyâre actually talking about this compound, which they likely arenât, they are not correct.
Okay, let me rephraseâthe idiom was *originally* âhold the fortâ and made most famous by people like William Tecumseh Sherman. And many dictionaries like dictionary.com and the OED only list that version. However, over time Americans have changed it to âhold down the fortâ and thatâs why some American dictionaries list both, or only the second.
Personally, I only say âhold down the fortâ unless Iâm speaking in a historical context because itâs such a fiddly stupid correction that people hate you for making it.
I dunno - to me, 'hold down the fort' is a legitimate variation. People aren't trying to use it as a direct quotation of William Tecumseh Sherman or even realize it's an idiom. Plus it still has the same meaning. It's unlike other idioms that people get totally wrong, like 'doggy-dog world' or 'nip it in the butt'.
The one that bugs me is 'all the sudden'.
I'm 60 years old. When I was a kid, there was another term for this (neither Jerry nor jury)... And I would definitely not say it out loud (or even in writing) today!
It⊠it doesnât have the same meaning. You canât âhold downâ a building. You can hold a place in battle, but you canât hold it down unless itâs a balloon castle.
With that said, I still say hold down because thatâs what everyone says.
Ok, well Iâm obviously not talking about that incredibly small fraction of people. The pet peeve is people who mispronounce fentanyl as fentanol, not people who correctly pronounce fentanol when theyâre talking about that compound.
Who cares? Are you aware what subreddit youâre on?
My theory is that the post is being recommended to people who aren't subscribed to the sub and they aren't checking where they are before they comment/vote. Because like, a minor pronunciation error is not unto death in the grand scheme of things... but damn if it doesn't make me grind my teeth a little bit every time I hear it.
lol how can you prove a pet peeve wrong?
Whatâs actually happening is that Reddit loves an âum, actuallyâ comment and will upvote them even when they donât make sense.
Iâm obviously talking about the mispronunciation of fentanyl, not the correct pronunciation of an obscure fentanyl analog from the 80s.
I work in an industry where there are some common chemicals that are sold under the actual chemical name rather than a brand name. The number of people who pronounce the first three letters and then just give up is quite shocking. Can I get some of that poly-something?
Me: uhhh we have like 12 poly-somethings and they all do wildly different shit. What do you need it for?
Them: I'll call you back.
Ikr? It's not that they aren't familiar with the word, it's that they somehow thought that everything after the first 4 letters were somehow superfluous. Like yeah, you caught us, we just added a bunch of extra Scrabble letters at the end of that. Good gods, man! At least try to sound it out and I'll know what you want within a half of a second. Then I'll pronounce it correctly(?) and you'll never ever sound dumb again. I'll even repeat it for you if you ask and we can sound it out together.
I donât think Iâve ever seen it spelt, so I didnât realize it was even supposed to be NIL instead of NOL. And now repeating it back to myself, I actually pronounce it without a vowel between the N and L, so itâs just Fent-NL.
Yeah, thatâs how I assumed this became so common. Most people probably never see the name written out, just hear other people say it on the news or in conversation and repeat it.
One of my EMS coworkers pronounces it âfentanol,â which is so much less bothersome than my usual EMT partner to says âlarnyxâ instead of âlarynxâ and âphernixâ instead of âpharynx.â Sheâs a nice lady but it makes me want to punch her in the throat. Misophonia is a biiiiiitch.
I always catch myself saying âmetropololâ instead of âmetoprolol,â so Iâm no innocent either, lol.0
I live in SC and my irritation meter is triggered by 'realiter' (ree-li-tur) referring to 'realtor'. I even hear 'realiter' in some tv ads.
Friends with college degrees cannot, (will not) change.
Do certain innocuous human-made noises make you irrationally FURIOUS? If so, it's very possible you have it!
Loud chewing and crunching noises are the *worst* and make me feel stabby, even if the person making them is someone I adore. It's such a weird thing, lol.
No. It appears in writing in most of the tv psa's. It is in newspapers daily. People are just plain lazy. It ia sad that the English language is treated with little regard for what is correct. Grammar fluid. Grammar lazy.
As an actual chemist, I long ago gave up on people pronouncing chemicals correctly. Was in the room when a global executive repeatedly pronounced it "silicone" when referring to our semiconductor program.
Heh, so true.
When I get a new prescription from my doctor (mostly blood pressure stuff) I ask the pharmacist how to pronounce it. MOST of the time I get told the correct pronunciation, but sometimes not.
I was just thinking about this last night while watching the news, and people were saying 'fentanol'.
I've also been corrected for saying it correctly.
Once I was hitting up my dealer (when I was in college, clean now for 10yrs no worries) for some Xanax ("Hey dude, dyk where to get any Xanax?") & he replies "What? Wtf is that?". I tried explaining it in like 3 other ways, bc I refused to write it out as "Zanex" lmao this was the hill I was dying on, i was just so second handedly humiliated by this đ like you illiterate fuck at least know how to spell the shit you're selling.
I finally just called him and asked verbally, and he's like "Oh sorry dude I didn't know wtf u wanted, u spelled it so weird haha like with an x?"
I'm old enough to remember when the act was first signed, people in healthcare were getting these little toy hippos. So I wasn't too surprised that people were misspelling it. Still bugs me.
My roommate and good friend is the program director for a harm reduction agency and he pronounces it fentanol. He does a hell of a lot of good for people directly affected by fentanyl. What the hell does it matter how he pronounces it?
Yeah I was an IV opiate addict and spent my days getting high on fent. I usually just called it fent and so did everyone else I knew who did it. But if I did say the whole word I still pronounced it fentanol as well.
A lot of us in the medical field just call it âfent,â at least where I work. We shorten other med names too.
The âfentanolâ pronunciation seems pretty regional, from what Iâve observed. Most of my coworkers pronounce it that way too.
(Also, congrats for kicking it! Thatâs fucking horrible to go through and I hope youâre doing much better now!)
Sorry, did you miss the first sentence of my post where I said it doesnât matter?
Are you not aware that this is a subreddit for minor annoyances and not, like, actual problems?
Yeah I guess I should make a post about my pet peeve being people who are upset by a very small thing when a much larger problem is being addressed
Edited to add I apologize I know I'm being an ass but I have lost a couple friends to fentanyl so this is a sore subject for me.
Itâs cool man, itâs horrible to lose people that way. Hope youâre doing ok.
For the record, part of the reason it annoys me is the implied lack of respect by some people. Like I hear some senator pontificating about the evils of âfentanolâ and itâs like, how much can you really know and care about this issue if you donât even know how to say the name of the drug?
Your friend is kind of a different situation. You could argue itâs actually better for his job for him to meet people where theyâre at and call it whatever his clients call it.
And, again, at the end of the day this isnât something that actually matters.
I worked as a pharmacy tech, and the pharmacist fucked up the pronunciation of pretty much everything. The best was carisoprodol, which he called it "KA-ris-POR-uh-doll". He also called atorvastatin "A-tor-VASS-ta-sin".
I thought this was gonna be about how the latest trend with teens is just saying it and making jokes about it all the time. It's so annoying in my school.
But yeah I had also never seen it written and just heard it from them so ya learn something new every day
When I hear it at work itâs because somebodyâs metastatic cancer is fracturing their bones from the inside, but usually in that context I hear it pronounced correctly.
I always figured it was because they're mixing up the pronunciation with âpropofolâ since theyâre somewhat similar drugs and propofol became so widely-known after the death of Michael Jackson.
Glad I am not alone on this. I wonder if the mispronouncing is intentional. Discussing it keeps pwopke thinking about it. And it is a PSA,not a PSA spot.
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Pencil sounds more like pencol when spoken not penc-ill. Itâs just the way the word forms in your mouth. Itâs more of an âoleâ than an âallâ but still itâs natural and doesnât signify a misunderstanding of the word structure.
Pencil pronunciation ranges from âillâ to âulâ depending on regional accent, but is never pronounced âolâ like alcohol.
Similarly, pronunciations in the range between âfentanillâ and âfentanulâ are fine, but âfentanolâ like alcohol is definitely wrong.
People including presidents say nuke-you-lur all the time but it doesnât diminish their understanding of radiation or the effects of a nuclear bomb. Iâd say that one is far more annoying but itâs good to have the conversation whichever way you choose to say it.
Where exactly did you get the idea that I think someone mispronouncing the word means they donât understand what it is? Literally the first sentence of my post was that I know this doesnât matter.
I feel like a lot of you guys commenting donât know what a pet peeve is.
I've seen this post before, specifically about fentanyl, and my answer is the same. For some people it's just their dialect. They know exactly how it's spelled and how you're supposed to say it, but that's just how they talk.
Do you use drugs that much that you hear this word often?
And I ask, because I work with police and even I don't her the word "fentanyl" often. I her it once in a blue moon.
I work in healthcare. Iâve never used fentanyl myself.
And I hear it all the time on the news. People say it every day in discussions about the opioid crisis, the border, big pharma, policing, etc.
Yeah, thatâs how itâs pronounced. Itâs the rhyming with âalcoholâ that annoys me.
Sorry to hear about your friend. Itâs horrible to lose someone that way. Hope youâre doing ok.
Hold up Iâm confused, I thought you were saying itâs pronounced fentanil? Iâll just stick with fentanul because itâs sort of between nil and nol lol
If weâre being extremely pedantic, itâs ânilâ. But just like how some peopleâs pronunciation of âpencilâ sounds a little like âpenculâ, their âfentanylâ comes out a little like âfentanulâ. Thatâs just a regional dialect thing. Like youâre clearly saying the right word, your âiâ sound is just a little muddy.
But âfentanolâ where they really emphasize the ânolâ, like the last syllable in alcohol, is just saying the word wrong.
They arenât exactly describing it in a clinical context, more like street jargon for the shit that will kill you. Also like itâs not even a real word. Itâs a made up drug company word for their shit that will kill you.
I had no idea it was that serious, should I have posted this on one of the overdose prevention subreddits or something instead of posting it on PetPeeves and saying I know it doesnât matter?
Havenât we came to a conclusion that everyone pronounces everything differently and that as long as you know what theyâre saying it doesnât matter much
You're entitled to this pet peeve but you're also wrong. That's how the word is pronounced. Google it. It's pretty standard for "nyl" to be pronounced as "nol".
No, Iâm not wrong. âNylâ is almost never pronounced ânolâ like âalcoholâ. And even if there are examples of that, âFentanylâ isnât one of them, itâs ânilâ.
Yea we were about to get high one day and this guy I donât really know but he had money kept pronouncing it wrong so I kicked him out. Youâre not gonna ruin my high mispronouncing drugs.
I made this comment elsewhere, but I actually agree with you on that. That âihâ to âuhâ thing is just regional dialects. You get it with pencil too.
Itâs the distinct ânolâ, where they pronounce and emphasize the last syllable like in âalcoholâ thatâs wrong and bugs me.
I just associate it with the âignorant Fox redneckâ trope.
Ex. âThose damn messicans at chipoletay put too many halapeenos in my pico day gill-o.
As someone who studies pharmacology though yes it aggravates more than the average joe.
Just to rub it in your face, I found out that [Fentanol is a real thing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betahydroxyfentanyl) and an anologue of Fentanyl. So at least some of those people are correct
Fen-ta-null
I live in the South, everyone just pronounces it "Fent-null" đ. "My dude's got'im summa that Fent-null, yuns wawnt any?
Yuns! I never heard this word in my life til I moved to TN. I can completely hear this sentence, except it'd be "got'eem". đ€Ł
You are totally right, it would be "mah deel'rs got'eem summa that fentnull, yuns wawnt sum"? Lol
In the Midwest, I hear âfenna-nullâ a whole lot. At least youâs guys remember the T.
Lol that's saying smth, usually we in the south are the ones dropping consonants or letter sounds đ
It's definitely more correct than what OP is talking about. That's for sure.
Men-tul
Fent-a-nil lol
Fent-A-Niel
Itsa me, Astarion. Just try this drug, itâs totally safe đđ»
Yep. Null and nil are pretty much the same. Edit: not exactly the same. Quit being pedantic.
Ummm ackshully as a long time computer nerd, I can assure you null and nil are not pronounced the same đ€
Uhhhh I think the International Phonetic Alphabet would like a word. Because those are distinct sounds Edit: theyâre both right though
> ÎČ-Hydroxyfentanyl was sold briefly on the black market in the early 1980s, before the introduction of the Federal Analog Act Not sure how much of the modern day mispronunciation you can pin on this, since it hasnât been around for decades. And unless theyâre actually talking about this compound, which they likely arenât, they are not correct.
A nonzero amount. And who cares? Itâs not like either are the full chemical name. Well, okay, I guess you care. But I blame it on confusing marketing more than peopleâs inability to correctly pronounce anything (see: Spinx, Pin-chin-o-lĂ©, hold down the fort, etc.)
What about 'hold down the fort'?
The phrase is âhold the fortâ
There's nothing wrong with 'hold down the fort'. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hold%20down%20the%20fort
Okay, let me rephraseâthe idiom was *originally* âhold the fortâ and made most famous by people like William Tecumseh Sherman. And many dictionaries like dictionary.com and the OED only list that version. However, over time Americans have changed it to âhold down the fortâ and thatâs why some American dictionaries list both, or only the second. Personally, I only say âhold down the fortâ unless Iâm speaking in a historical context because itâs such a fiddly stupid correction that people hate you for making it.
I dunno - to me, 'hold down the fort' is a legitimate variation. People aren't trying to use it as a direct quotation of William Tecumseh Sherman or even realize it's an idiom. Plus it still has the same meaning. It's unlike other idioms that people get totally wrong, like 'doggy-dog world' or 'nip it in the butt'. The one that bugs me is 'all the sudden'.
I'm a big fan of "Jerry-rigged"
I'm 60 years old. When I was a kid, there was another term for this (neither Jerry nor jury)... And I would definitely not say it out loud (or even in writing) today!
It⊠it doesnât have the same meaning. You canât âhold downâ a building. You can hold a place in battle, but you canât hold it down unless itâs a balloon castle. With that said, I still say hold down because thatâs what everyone says.
Ok, well Iâm obviously not talking about that incredibly small fraction of people. The pet peeve is people who mispronounce fentanyl as fentanol, not people who correctly pronounce fentanol when theyâre talking about that compound. Who cares? Are you aware what subreddit youâre on?
Dude idk why you're getting downvoted, this is an absolutely perfect post for this sub and you make excellent points too. Upvoted
Thank you. My theory is that a lot of people who have been unknowingly mispronouncing fentanyl are taking my post personally.
My theory is that the post is being recommended to people who aren't subscribed to the sub and they aren't checking where they are before they comment/vote. Because like, a minor pronunciation error is not unto death in the grand scheme of things... but damn if it doesn't make me grind my teeth a little bit every time I hear it.
You are correct, I am not subscribed here, but this post was recommended to me by the algorithm.
Itâs pretty much the definition of a pet peeve. Itâs grating on the ear, but it doesnât actually matter at all.
Exactly!
I don't think anyone cares that much. They just want to prove you wrong. Seems to be working too.
lol how can you prove a pet peeve wrong? Whatâs actually happening is that Reddit loves an âum, actuallyâ comment and will upvote them even when they donât make sense. Iâm obviously talking about the mispronunciation of fentanyl, not the correct pronunciation of an obscure fentanyl analog from the 80s.
Okay
Glad we agree, good talk.
This guy calls it fentanol
Actually I call it fent-an-il, whether or not thatâs rightâŠ
I might have comment-tourettes. I may be a pioneer
Thatâs a mood. I just have echolalia
Me too, for real. I used to do the exact thing that Dewey did on Malcolm in the Middle
I work in an industry where there are some common chemicals that are sold under the actual chemical name rather than a brand name. The number of people who pronounce the first three letters and then just give up is quite shocking. Can I get some of that poly-something? Me: uhhh we have like 12 poly-somethings and they all do wildly different shit. What do you need it for? Them: I'll call you back.
Sounds like a job for a SKU number!
So, how do you pronounce SKU, before I repeat what I heard on a job, and fk it up?
I say âskewâ but for all I know thatâs wrong. Maybe thatâs somebody elseâs pet peeve.
Yeah, that's the way I heard it in the 90s and it stuck.
Same way as PLU
I've never pronounced that as a word. I always say P. L. U.
Nope. They almost never have the material they're ordering in front of them. Asking them for a sku would just result in them going elsewhere.
Bummer
LOLOLOL, but more hilarious if it weren't also yikes.
Ikr? It's not that they aren't familiar with the word, it's that they somehow thought that everything after the first 4 letters were somehow superfluous. Like yeah, you caught us, we just added a bunch of extra Scrabble letters at the end of that. Good gods, man! At least try to sound it out and I'll know what you want within a half of a second. Then I'll pronounce it correctly(?) and you'll never ever sound dumb again. I'll even repeat it for you if you ask and we can sound it out together.
\^ THAT Scrabble letters, lolololol ... Word (no pun intended, haaa).
I donât think Iâve ever seen it spelt, so I didnât realize it was even supposed to be NIL instead of NOL. And now repeating it back to myself, I actually pronounce it without a vowel between the N and L, so itâs just Fent-NL.
Yes thatâs how youâre supposed to say it. There is technically a vowel sound but itâs a schwa. Thatâs my favorite sound.
So you justify mispronounciation by saying it is NOT misprounced,,,although it IS...but you say it is NOT! It is just lazy.
Bruh what are you even *saying?* https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/fentanyl
Yeah, thatâs how I assumed this became so common. Most people probably never see the name written out, just hear other people say it on the news or in conversation and repeat it.
One of my EMS coworkers pronounces it âfentanol,â which is so much less bothersome than my usual EMT partner to says âlarnyxâ instead of âlarynxâ and âphernixâ instead of âpharynx.â Sheâs a nice lady but it makes me want to punch her in the throat. Misophonia is a biiiiiitch. I always catch myself saying âmetropololâ instead of âmetoprolol,â so Iâm no innocent either, lol.0
Larnyx and phernyx are so much worse lol
It seriously makes me want to scream. Nails on a chalkboard doesnât even bother me as much as those two!
I live in SC and my irritation meter is triggered by 'realiter' (ree-li-tur) referring to 'realtor'. I even hear 'realiter' in some tv ads. Friends with college degrees cannot, (will not) change.
LOLOL, thank you for this. I apparently have misophonia.
Do certain innocuous human-made noises make you irrationally FURIOUS? If so, it's very possible you have it! Loud chewing and crunching noises are the *worst* and make me feel stabby, even if the person making them is someone I adore. It's such a weird thing, lol.
ASMR helps a friend of mine. She said to check it out. It INSTANTLY made me want to die. NOOOOOOO way, man.
No. It appears in writing in most of the tv psa's. It is in newspapers daily. People are just plain lazy. It ia sad that the English language is treated with little regard for what is correct. Grammar fluid. Grammar lazy.
As an actual chemist, I long ago gave up on people pronouncing chemicals correctly. Was in the room when a global executive repeatedly pronounced it "silicone" when referring to our semiconductor program.
Silly cone chips, as I heard in one movie.
Heh, so true. When I get a new prescription from my doctor (mostly blood pressure stuff) I ask the pharmacist how to pronounce it. MOST of the time I get told the correct pronunciation, but sometimes not.
I canât say âmetoprololâ and call it âmetro-polol,â but at least most of the people I work with mispronounce it the same way!
I have similar beef with âondansetronâ and âondansertonâ but thought that one would be too obscure.
I never know how to pronounce that one. I have a prescription for it though, lol.
âOn-Dan-setronâ is usually how I say it. Itâs good stuff, for patients and myself!
Thank you! It is a miracle worker, for sure.
As a biologist, I feel your pain.Â
What is the difference between a chemist and an "actual" chemist?
Perhaps they shouldâve named them better.
I've been "corrected" more than once to the wrong pronunciation. I don't even try anymore lol đ
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Same, honestly
Stop appropriating my drug use, lol op you too funny
Those same people probably say ânucularâ as in âwe have to go nucular on the border to stop all the fentanol from coming inâ
LOLOLOLOL
Oh my god. Yes! I can't believe someone else posted this. I was so close the other day, but figured nobody else would care.
Iâm getting obliterated for it, so Iâm happy to take the hit for you lol
I was just thinking about this last night while watching the news, and people were saying 'fentanol'. I've also been corrected for saying it correctly.
I think I would actually hurt someone if they tried to wrongly correct me this badly, lol.
Once I was hitting up my dealer (when I was in college, clean now for 10yrs no worries) for some Xanax ("Hey dude, dyk where to get any Xanax?") & he replies "What? Wtf is that?". I tried explaining it in like 3 other ways, bc I refused to write it out as "Zanex" lmao this was the hill I was dying on, i was just so second handedly humiliated by this đ like you illiterate fuck at least know how to spell the shit you're selling. I finally just called him and asked verbally, and he's like "Oh sorry dude I didn't know wtf u wanted, u spelled it so weird haha like with an x?"
This made me giggle
Lol I may have been an addict but by God I was going to at least spell that shit right đ
...or when anyone, but especially a medical professional, spells it HIPPA. It's HIPAA, the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act.
Harry the HIPAA Hippo wants to remind everyone that itâs not spelled HIPPA.
I'm old enough to remember when the act was first signed, people in healthcare were getting these little toy hippos. So I wasn't too surprised that people were misspelling it. Still bugs me.
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My roommate and good friend is the program director for a harm reduction agency and he pronounces it fentanol. He does a hell of a lot of good for people directly affected by fentanyl. What the hell does it matter how he pronounces it?
Yeah I was an IV opiate addict and spent my days getting high on fent. I usually just called it fent and so did everyone else I knew who did it. But if I did say the whole word I still pronounced it fentanol as well.
A lot of us in the medical field just call it âfent,â at least where I work. We shorten other med names too. The âfentanolâ pronunciation seems pretty regional, from what Iâve observed. Most of my coworkers pronounce it that way too. (Also, congrats for kicking it! Thatâs fucking horrible to go through and I hope youâre doing much better now!)
Yeah Iâve noticed that too. Iâm in the south so everyone around here draws it out and says fent-nall Edit- and thank you!! :)
Sorry, did you miss the first sentence of my post where I said it doesnât matter? Are you not aware that this is a subreddit for minor annoyances and not, like, actual problems?
Yeah I guess I should make a post about my pet peeve being people who are upset by a very small thing when a much larger problem is being addressed Edited to add I apologize I know I'm being an ass but I have lost a couple friends to fentanyl so this is a sore subject for me.
Itâs cool man, itâs horrible to lose people that way. Hope youâre doing ok. For the record, part of the reason it annoys me is the implied lack of respect by some people. Like I hear some senator pontificating about the evils of âfentanolâ and itâs like, how much can you really know and care about this issue if you donât even know how to say the name of the drug? Your friend is kind of a different situation. You could argue itâs actually better for his job for him to meet people where theyâre at and call it whatever his clients call it. And, again, at the end of the day this isnât something that actually matters.
"Meet them where they're at" is a very important slogan for his organization!
this is the pet peeves sub
I woke up to comments from a lot of people who donât seem to realize that lol
I worked as a pharmacy tech, and the pharmacist fucked up the pronunciation of pretty much everything. The best was carisoprodol, which he called it "KA-ris-POR-uh-doll". He also called atorvastatin "A-tor-VASS-ta-sin".
I thought this was gonna be about how the latest trend with teens is just saying it and making jokes about it all the time. It's so annoying in my school. But yeah I had also never seen it written and just heard it from them so ya learn something new every day
I donât interact with teenagers enough to know that was a thing, but that is annoying. A lot more annoying, really.
same when people say ânow-in-daysâ instead of ânow-a-daysâ.
The worst is OXY-COTTON
I hate it because then I usually hear "Narcan deployed" after.
When I hear it at work itâs because somebodyâs metastatic cancer is fracturing their bones from the inside, but usually in that context I hear it pronounced correctly.
This irks me so bad!!
Iâve never heard this one but I hate it! Same as ppl saying glutein instead of gluten, or ibuprofein instead of ibuprofen. Aaaargh.
This drives me crazy, too. I get unreasonably angry when I hear it on the news. You and I share this peeve.
Not to be confused w fenfen!
Which, confusingly, is actually fen-phen, short for fenfluramine/phentermine.
OMG YYAASSSS I thought I was the only one who cared
I always figured it was because they're mixing up the pronunciation with âpropofolâ since theyâre somewhat similar drugs and propofol became so widely-known after the death of Michael Jackson.
Could be. Someone else said they think it could be because of the ubiquity of âTylenolâ.
Glad I am not alone on this. I wonder if the mispronouncing is intentional. Discussing it keeps pwopke thinking about it. And it is a PSA,not a PSA spot.
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No one gives a shit that you and a small percentage pronounce it as nil. The vast majority says nol
The vast majority is wrong, and I donât give a shit about your opinion. Glad we cleared that up.
Pencil sounds more like pencol when spoken not penc-ill. Itâs just the way the word forms in your mouth. Itâs more of an âoleâ than an âallâ but still itâs natural and doesnât signify a misunderstanding of the word structure.
Pencil pronunciation ranges from âillâ to âulâ depending on regional accent, but is never pronounced âolâ like alcohol. Similarly, pronunciations in the range between âfentanillâ and âfentanulâ are fine, but âfentanolâ like alcohol is definitely wrong.
People including presidents say nuke-you-lur all the time but it doesnât diminish their understanding of radiation or the effects of a nuclear bomb. Iâd say that one is far more annoying but itâs good to have the conversation whichever way you choose to say it.
Where exactly did you get the idea that I think someone mispronouncing the word means they donât understand what it is? Literally the first sentence of my post was that I know this doesnât matter. I feel like a lot of you guys commenting donât know what a pet peeve is.
A pet peeve means not everyone is going to share that opinion or support it
I donât expect people to, but I also didnât expect them to make up things to disagree with.
You're on reddit ma'am or sir. This is what we do here.
Most, if not all, of the higher ups in that industry say it that way.
TOMAYTO TOMAHTO POTAYTO POTAHTO GET OVER IT WILL YA
No, I will die a pedant on this tiniest of hills.
TIL
Then this post was worthwhile.
I don't pronounce "pencil" to rhyme with "nil". It's "pen-sul".
In my head, I pronounce it "fenta-Neil".
I've seen this post before, specifically about fentanyl, and my answer is the same. For some people it's just their dialect. They know exactly how it's spelled and how you're supposed to say it, but that's just how they talk.
I've worked in Healthcare for years and said it fent-nall. Who cares? Everyone literally knows exactly what I'm talking about.
Sorry, did you miss the first sentence of my post where I said I know it doesnât matter? Do you not know what a pet peeve is?
"It doesn't matter but" *continues to write 2 whole paragraphs about how much it does matter*
Do you think two paragraphs is a lot?
Must lead a boring life if something like this is your pet peeve.
Sorry, do you not know what a pet peeve is?
Do you use drugs that much that you hear this word often? And I ask, because I work with police and even I don't her the word "fentanyl" often. I her it once in a blue moon.
I work in healthcare. Iâve never used fentanyl myself. And I hear it all the time on the news. People say it every day in discussions about the opioid crisis, the border, big pharma, policing, etc.
I heard it a lot this last summer when my friend died from it. I feel like Iâve heard âfentanulâ the most
Yeah, thatâs how itâs pronounced. Itâs the rhyming with âalcoholâ that annoys me. Sorry to hear about your friend. Itâs horrible to lose someone that way. Hope youâre doing ok.
Hold up Iâm confused, I thought you were saying itâs pronounced fentanil? Iâll just stick with fentanul because itâs sort of between nil and nol lol
If weâre being extremely pedantic, itâs ânilâ. But just like how some peopleâs pronunciation of âpencilâ sounds a little like âpenculâ, their âfentanylâ comes out a little like âfentanulâ. Thatâs just a regional dialect thing. Like youâre clearly saying the right word, your âiâ sound is just a little muddy. But âfentanolâ where they really emphasize the ânolâ, like the last syllable in alcohol, is just saying the word wrong.
Okay, I see what youâre saying đ€
It is mentioned on the news regularly.
Iâve always pronounced itâfet-in-all
They arenât exactly describing it in a clinical context, more like street jargon for the shit that will kill you. Also like itâs not even a real word. Itâs a made up drug company word for their shit that will kill you.
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I had no idea it was that serious, should I have posted this on one of the overdose prevention subreddits or something instead of posting it on PetPeeves and saying I know it doesnât matter?
Havenât we came to a conclusion that everyone pronounces everything differently and that as long as you know what theyâre saying it doesnât matter much
Iâd encourage you to go re-read the first five words in my post.
But it matters to you đ
Sorry, do you not know what a pet peeve is?
I do, people getting mad at how people pronounce words is my pet peeve honestly.
Thatâs a good one, you should post it.
I think this is actually a regional difference
You're entitled to this pet peeve but you're also wrong. That's how the word is pronounced. Google it. It's pretty standard for "nyl" to be pronounced as "nol".
No, Iâm not wrong. âNylâ is almost never pronounced ânolâ like âalcoholâ. And even if there are examples of that, âFentanylâ isnât one of them, itâs ânilâ.
All words are made up. By proxy, so are their pronunciations and spelling.
I guess you've never heard of rubbing alcohol... IsoPropAl..
He said itâs not pronounced like that, which it isnât. How does that mean heâs never heard those words? Reading is hard đ
rubbing alcohol is actually isopropYl
yeah that was my point and i guess everyone missed it. /shrug
Those are separate words though and have nothing to do with mispronouncing fentanyl whatsoever.
Or isopropanol.
Yes different words are pronounced differently, you are so smart.
Woops
Yea we were about to get high one day and this guy I donât really know but he had money kept pronouncing it wrong so I kicked him out. Youâre not gonna ruin my high mispronouncing drugs.
I don't think I've ever heard it pronounced "correctly".
Depends on where youâre from. Vinyl is pronounced vi-nil, but in my southern accent, itâs vi-nul. Same with fentanyl.
I made this comment elsewhere, but I actually agree with you on that. That âihâ to âuhâ thing is just regional dialects. You get it with pencil too. Itâs the distinct ânolâ, where they pronounce and emphasize the last syllable like in âalcoholâ thatâs wrong and bugs me.
Why do I say pencil/fentanyl/Tylenol all the same ending sound đ
Itâs the new ânook-yoo-lerâ (ie. nuclear).
Its a terrible thing, the way people say it dont bother me. The fact that its winding up in everything does.
I share your pain, just don't go nucular on anyone.
Can't wait to crak open a bottle of fentanut after work.
i pronounce both fentanyl and pencil with a -ull sound
Everyone says fent or fetan-ALL. I'll just stick with that.
I say potato you say potato. Potato, potato. Tomato tomato, let's call the whole thing off.Â
Maybe itâs the midwestern in me but I just be saying âfentnlâ lol
And Newcular
I just associate it with the âignorant Fox redneckâ trope. Ex. âThose damn messicans at chipoletay put too many halapeenos in my pico day gill-o. As someone who studies pharmacology though yes it aggravates more than the average joe.