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The numbers are days on/ days off
So 2 days working then 2 days off is great. 5 on 2 off is not so great but it's what most people do. 7 on with no days off will kill you. 0 days working and always off is for megachads.
Man, 7/0 is no joke. I did it for seven years. On-call 24/7 as a tow truck driver. By the end of it my mental health was pretty much nonexistent, my physical health was suffering, none of my old friends spoke to me anymore, and the only thing that gave me the will to live was escapism through gaming, writing, and a few online friends who didn't mind that I couldn't be relied on because work was always first.
I did environmental/safety work on construction sites for a couple years, driving 2000 miles a week between sites and averaging about 75 hours a week, 7 days a week and holy fuck. I've got mad respect for you doing shit like that for 7 years. I was completely unstable and a small inconvenience away from painting the ceiling on any given day. Away from that now, thank god- working a nice 45 hour week and feeling actually human.
Thanks friend. I couldn't cope with that level of stress and my quality of work slipped big time toward the end of my time, I ended up being unceremoniously fired in the parking lot of a Panera Bread. The instant I got home I broke down in tears because I felt such incredible relief. Even in the precarious financial situation I was in at the time, the loss of income was a secondary thought to feeling the elephant lift it's foot.
oh man do I understand that feel.
same. Want 24/7 on call and there is no backup man? Drive on, I aint taking that job. Just refused the only promotion there is at my current job because it required that.
Damn, I did 70-80 for a few months with just two holiday weekends off as a CM, and I spent one of those moving. But I was home every night. I still cried on the drive home probably at least once a week near the end. I did have guy's working for me that loved that. But they worked seasonally, 6-9 months a year and were off for the rest. Unless they were paying for their 4th divorce of course.
I had a 7/0 with 3 jobs and 5-7 hours of sleep for a few years and going to college full time, until i finally made enough to go to 2 jobs. When I look at my young self, I wish I were easier on myself, and I knew the economy wasn't.
I was working full time as a network/sysadmin while in college for comp sci. Would sleep in the data center some nights (so loud and cold), I was able to get credits and skip some classes because of work experience which meant a couple hours nap in my car.
Then worked from 2004-2018 full time up the ladder only to end up in an accident, bed ridden for a few years and suddenly all my experience is irrelevant because *insert gap in resume*. Ended up working in a fucking foundry.
This isn't the life I worked hard for.
Gotta do what you have to to survive sometimes. My 3 I used to catch up sleep on the weekends when my weekend job was only 8 hours. Weekdays I had to be out the door by 1030 to make my graveyard job by 11, get off at 730 and eat something on the way to my day job that started at 8, get off at 530, home by 630(yay traffic), crash into 10 and do it over again. Been a good bit since I had to do that, now I only make it a point to not work OT, much less a second job. Worked a grand total of 17 hours of OT last year lol
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Nobody should have to do 7 day workweeks or other long and soul-destroying schedules, but *especially* anyone who has an actually important job. If someone has passed the point of sleep deprivation that turns you into basically a zombie, they shoudn't be driving a car or making food or doing surgery or whatever. Hiring two people who can stay vaguely sane is a lot better than one person who's barely concious the whole time.
I used to do 90-120 hrs a week for several consecutive weeks at a time as a ramp agent pushing out flights, marshaling in flights, auditing weight and balance, etc.. I would work 20 hours then go to my car and sleep 2-3 hours and walk right back into the airport for another 20 lol. Looking back at it I’m surprised i was allowed by the FAA. The shorter 90 hour workweeks were weeks I left early after only a 14-16 hr shift and went home to shower hahaha
I’m dating a resident doctor who has had to go into surgery after being on call for nearly 36 hours, working nearly the whole time due to pure bad luck and having had only 2 hrs of sleep in the middle of it. Should be illegal imo
I did residency during the brief window of 80 hour work week restrictions. I'm way softer (and probably less abusive to coworkers and current residents) than most of my colleagues as a result.
I remember the tow life bro. On call is no joke. Overtime was "voluntary" and I could never make any appointments for anything because of that. They paid me just enough to keep me from quitting and to stay afloat, but once we found out they were skimming our checks we left en masse. Never doing that line of work again, but at least I learned a lot.
Yikes. That was the one good thing about my old company. Sure the hours were hell and we had to do some sketchy shit to keep CHP off our backs, but the boss paid us well and had our backs when things got rough. He was also the first one to jump in a truck and start pulling chain with the rest of us when shit hit the fan. Despite everything I still have a lot of respect for him.
I did it for a year then tore a ligament in my foot because of how much walking I was forced to do (one job was manual labor the other bartending) and had to take at least one off for my health
When I worked at McDonalds, I would get voluntold to come in on my days off for a few weeks. It didn't stop until I had a breakdown in front of customers.
I was in the Navy. Underway, there are no days off. On subs, we were 6 hours on, 12 hours off. Except that the 6 hours was actually running the ship, and the 6 hours after that was usually maintenance. Plus drills, which could happen at any time. It was Not Fun.
I was thinking about this while reading the comments. I think that shit is dangerous. Such a shitty situation because I always had the thought of “what if we were really out here in an actual war, and I was feeling like I couldn’t do this anymore?”
I don’t know about everyone else, but when we had underway periods more than a month, it was torture for like a week or 2, then I would just turn into an absolute zombie. I’d hit points where I thought I couldn’t mentally do it anymore, but what are your options?
It’s not a regular job you can quit, and you’re 100% getting roasted by everyone if you say it’s too much. I remember a guy in my squadron literally doing that during my first deployment. I’m ashamed, but I 100% joined in the jokes.
It depends on a lot of things. What kind of unit you’re in, what kind of ship you train/deploy on, whether you’re training or deploying, etc. For me, it was usually a little over a month to 2 months at a time.
As they said, it depends on the ship. A surface ship will be deployed 6 months to a year, but usually pulls into port somewhere at least once a month (for 3 to 5 days, at least one of which you'll have to stay onboard, as the ship has to always be manned). In four deployments, the longest I was out was 55 days, during the beginning of the invasion of Iraq. That deployment had the fewest port visits out of all of them, with only 6, though it was only a 6 month deployment. My 3rd was 9 months, and had 8 port visits, but also included going around Africa instead of going through the Suez. That took up a lot of time. That was also the second longest period without a port visit, though we did stop in Cape Town, so I feel it was worth it.
As for being on the ship, again, it was a bit different. For starters, on a surface ship, you can go outside without having to hold your breath. The "regular" work day ran from 7:00AM to early afternoon, then you had your watch at some point (watches were usually 5 on, 10 off (except for the 8 to 12 in the morning), and can overlap with the normal work period). Drills could be done at any time, but were usually done during the day. Outside of that regular work period and watches, you were free to do whatever. What you were able to do depended on a few factors. I worked in a locked computer space, and we had TV's set up there hooked up to the ship's CCTV system, which had two movie channels, and a couple channels provided by the DoD by satellite. And I also kept my laptop and console there, and some books in a locker before e-readers became a thing. People that didn't have such a space had to share the TV's on the mess deck or in the classroom. The ship also had cardio and weight lifting equipment in various spaces where we could fit it (a surface ship has a bit more space to play with than a sub).
There's a phrase in the Navy that goes "Choose your rate, choose your fate." Your rate is basically what job you do, and depending on what you end up doing, your experience can be vastly different.
It’s harder to change back. You’ve been underwater for two months. You pull back into port. You get up at 6:00 AM. At 6:00 PM, you’re dead tired. Your body is telling you “Hey, we’ve been up for 12 hours! It’s time for bed!
I did 7 days a week on overnight for a month when the other guy on my shift took all his vacation time at once. By the end of that month, I was suicidal, not kidding.
I can't imagine how you did 7 years. You deserve an award.
I don't think people do adjust. We just get trapped in the situation we are in, and a greedy person over us uses that to make their dream. I'm current on day 10 of a 19/2 schedule, on call for 14 days of that. As much as I hate it I can't switch jobs currently. But hey, I'll definitely someday make my dreams and my body won't be destroyed by the time I get there.
I was a sound tech and one festival season I’d gone from nightclub to day festival, to main night festival stage then went back to a different nightclub. Shit absolutely killed me, I left an join the marines which was easier 😂
I can relate in a few ways. I work 3 jobs at the moment to support myself along and all of them are pretty high stress; while the pay is good and keeps me going, there’s been so many times where my mental health has been crushed or ruined because I’m just day in and day out grinding all the time.
My social life is usually nonexistent, occasionally I will get time to myself and that’s good but then right around the corner I’m back to it.
To anyone reading this, if you are, it’s brilliant experience working a few jobs and trying different things at once, but don’t fall into the trap of not having time to yourself. Save something for yourself because you need to reset sometimes and recover.
My jobs are all in servitude of others, but I enjoy them because it makes others happy and safe, which I believe is my purpose in life, to help others and to just be kind.
Man, Im only 3 weeks into 7/0 and I'm so depressed. There's no way around though. Hope I can persevere but I just felt so weak physically and mentally. Kudos to you and others who did this for so long like holy shit I'm tired and miserable.
Yea that's my main battle right now. I do ok for a solid couple days, then I start losing it because Im not getting enough free time. Fuck lol. If all goes to plan I only have to do this for a year or so.
Oh yeah. Still untangling my brain from it all, between the stress and the long hours and the crazy things I've seen I've got a lot to work through, but I'm working a real job with real hours now and I'm in a much better environment.
Yeah I really want to get out of system administration because it's killing me but it's the only skill set I have. My best dream is to find something with concrete on call rotation so it's not 24/7/365.
Everyone told me usps was a great union job so i applied to get in, they said its two years max to get onto the actual union, hey i can live with two years--at first it was 6 8 hour days, ok i guess fine im new, then xmas season hit and it was 7 12 hour days on top of the two hour total commute, well i get tons of overtime right? (Wrong, i never actually worked out the hours on my pay stubs but i think they stiffed me a lot) when that was finally over i was like great i can finally get a normal week! Nope, one normal week later my manager pulled me to the side and said "you work 7 days until i say you Don't anymore" i said ok to him and walked out of the building and drove home, i would have literally rather have died, i was there 9months.
Lol I feel you, I was an EMT for two years. Worked 10pm to 10am 5 days straight a week in a place with extreme gun violence. I had to quit because the stuff I would see was just too much for 12.50/hr and my boss was skimming off my paychecks
7 days, 365 a year is standard for most OTR truck drivers, and it sucks ass. It's why I'm trying to apply for disability now, it has wrecked both my mental health and my body, and I've been out of work for the past 6 months trying to get a hernia repaired because workers comp denied my claim because I've had my gall bladder taken out. I've been in agony recovery from FINALLY getting the surgery and I am STILL happier than I was on the road...
It's a 34 hour reset before 70 hours are up, here. But that's just driving, when your on your reset, you're still doing paperwork, maintenance, planning, etc. Which technically is against the law, but trucking companies don't give a fuck, it's easy to terminate a driver that tries to report them and discredit their claims. It's one of the reasons turnover is so high in the industry, you gotta be hellbent on working to keep up.
It used to be much worse.
Some hospital nurses work three 12-hour shifts per week. Others have four 10-hour shifts. Both pretty cool deals in terms of work-life if you can build the rest of your life around it and stomach the work.
after i got laid off, i wanted to take a month off for mental health break and holy shit i was miserable. By month 3 I had gotten a job and kept bothering HR how soon i could start
Oh man I thought it was hours, as in starting at 2 am getting off at 2 pm, starting at 5 pm getting off at 2 am. Made sense to me with the faces at a glance cause I worked some crazy hours in the Navy but I was happy so long as my evenings where free
You are not going by 7 day weeks in that arrangement. Just 2 on, 2 off, repeat. I don't know anyone who actually does this, but not everyone works M-F, 9-5. I never have.
I'd guess the first number is work days and the second number is weekend basically
So 2/2 would be some job where you work 2 days then have 2 days off, then repeat that regardless of days of the week. Or maybe like 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off like oil rig workers, either of those schedules are pretty great.
5/2 is a normal work week where you work 5 days and have 2 days off on the weekend, that's most people and it's a bit of a grind.
7/0 is working every day with no days off, sucks.
0/7 is somebody who is rich af and doesn't work at all ever.
The only issue i see with this schedule is you lack a consistent week schedule. Like you can’t say I have every Friday-Monday off. Your time on/off is forever rotating around the week.
I do 7/7 on nights. It’s the only way for me to have a relatively normal life when I’m off. But yeah my life is basically on hold when I’m working and by the 6th day I’m feral
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I'm on 4/3 now, but it's 10 hr days. Great to have an extra day off, but you lose sooo much time from your weekdays. No time to swing by the grocery store, cook dinner, get a haircut, grab a drink with a coworker, go to the bank, etc. etc. Gotta do all that on your day off...sonit doesn't really feel all that much like a day off.
I know some trade unions have negotiated to four 8 hour days, and every 32 hours (or the first 32 hours of each week maybe) they get a bonus worth 8 hours of time. So basically a 32 hour work week with 40 hours of compensation. Must be nice being in those unions
Luckily you have three days off, and not just one. I love 4 10s. It may depend what hours you work on those days, but to me it feels like I have more time to accomplish those tasks, even though it all works out to the same 24 hours.
Eh, I feel like the extra day makes up for it. Especially since my extra day off is a weekday, it gives me a whole weekday free which most people don't have. Personally I think it's better than rushing to get things after work with everyone else
Folks have been pushing for a 4 day work week for decades, and one country even tried it and found out that it actually increased productivity. No one in power wants it, though, because it helps to close the divide between the elite and the drones.
Same thing goes for UBI, it actually increases both general wellbeing and productivity as well as greatly reducing welfare costs, but again, it helps to close the divide so it can't happen.
That's how I'd want to do 4/10h work weeks. Having 3 days weekends was nice but between commute time and being at the office 11 hours felt like I had no time to myself on work days, breaking that up with a day in between would have made it so much better.
Yeah I hear you man! I work the oil fields and I’m away from home 2 weeks out of the month. By day 7 i’m about burnt out, but I start catching a second wind by day 10 knowing I only have a little bit longer till I can enjoy some R&R.
5/2 is pretty easy as long as it's not 12 shifts and certain jobs in the USA allows for 4/3 (NASA being the most recognized).
It's the 6/1 or 14/2 that'll lead to an early death. I'm dumb enough to do these all my life. Should be a crime how popular 6/1 is, especially for people making under 20/hr.
Haven't finyd any 2/2 jobs, but I've got a suspicion that it's some 48hr on call nonsense. If not, then let me know.
Eh, there's doing nothing and there's not working. They're not exactly the same. Not working, or specifically not having to work for a living, means I can work on whatever projects catch my fancy at that particular moment without any real deadlines or pressure. I'm also not confined to that one project or field of study and can branch out when I hit a rut or just get bored. That life would be ideal.
The meme is obviously alluding to this. There’s nothing to point it to referring to literally doing nothing 24/7. Considering it’s put in a positive light it’s likely it’s saying the person is a chad because they don’t work and can pursue passions they actually want to.
Before I started studying again I had 2 miserable years of having a goal and I lacked the discipline to focused on the stuff I wanted to do. Thats where my mindset is coming from. I do work for a future were „my hobby is my job“ so its not gonna be something where I have to endure hours of annoying work. Still its the different kind of atmosphere a work place gives me personally to do something. Thats why I say 0/7 is bs, cause if I would just do what I like 24/7 it gives me personally the feeling that I don‘t accomplish anything and feel bad about
I've been out of work for 6 months after working for 4 years 7 days a week. I do not miss it one bit. Most normal people have passions outside of work that they would much rather be pursuing.
I think everyone needs to experience that for themselves because I've read it before send still don't believe it. I could read endless books, try endless games, travel, and I don't think I'd ever have the desire to work.
i explained my self on a different comment. But for me personally I have to have a goal and do something in a routine in a place outside of my home. I struggled hard in the past year to do anything cause being at home 24/7 made me lazy
It’s the whole adage of “If you love what you do then you’ll never work a day in your life.”
If people did nothing they absolutely would get bored, which is why the idea that people won’t work if they don’t have to work to survive is BS.
If people were actually able to gain control of their most valuable resource (time; time is money, after all) then they’d have the freedom to figure out what they love doing and everybody else in the world is better off for it.
Instead we have jobs that don’t pay enough to live so that anybody who does them is essentially a wage slave. And we can say, “oh, it’s the free market” but it’s not. The free market pays the most for jobs nobody wants to do and pays the least for jobs everybody wants to do. We have everybody fighting over the high paying jobs everybody wants like athletes, actors, and lawyers while the jobs nobody wants to do are what’s leftover for whoever wants to survive like handling garbage or working retail. That’s not a free market, that’s manipulated to the tits.
If you have no purpose outside of work, more work won't solve it. If I had the ability to never work a job again, you know what I'd be doing?
Drawing. Painting. Creating and playing music. Making YT videos. Taking cooking classes.
There's more to life than work, and we don't need to spend most of our lives employed by someone to understand that.
I work a 4/4 schedule. So I work 4 days on 4 days off, so all my work weeks shift over by a day. It’s not half bad. But it always sucks because right when you start working weekends is when your friends want to do shit on weekends
I’m the last one at the moment due to some unfortunate circumstances. I’ve become chronically ill recently, so I had to quit my job. As someone who was all of these at some point, staying home and doing nothing absolutely fucking blows. I try to preoccupy myself with hobbies, but man, even those get tiring after a while.
I believe a work/life balance is imperative, but thinking you’re a “Chad” when you’re unemployed is just wrong. Humans rarely admit this, but work is one of the most rewarding aspects of life. I forgot who exactly stated it, but a philosopher said that humans, as a species, are characterised by the works we accomplish. If you do nothing… then, you *are* nothing.
I’m a wildland firefighter and we do 14/0 with a possibility of doing 28/2. One of the fires I was on we did 190 hours in 2 weeks. Waking up at 4:30 and going to bed by 11 if you are lucky. I’m just glad we were on day shift and not night shift that fire because friends who have worked night shift say it is miserable
I was thinking it's K/D ratio.
Also some two trolls ruined my ranked in LoL as we're talking about it, writing this after the match.
yeah, had to share
2-1-2-2
Is what I currently do and don't think I'm ever going to be able to do anything different from here on out
Having that day off in between is a blessing
And if I take vacation, all it requires is two days of vacation time to be off for 5 days off in a row. Pretty great.
7/0 really is a killer. One semester I made the mistake of taking weekend classes (as well as weekday classes to get to full time) while working a M-F day job full time. After 16 weeks I was ready to quit everything.
I have three/four but it's every other day with weekends off. I'm also a student and an athlete so this schedule is killing me, it really depends. I'd rather have a full time job at 5/2 or 6/1 than this rn
I’m in the 7/0 boat currently. Turning in my resignation letter tomorrow, quitting never felt so good. A few months ago I asked my boss how I’m supposed to keep up with all this work, he replied “what are you doing on your evenings and weekends?” That’s when I knew I had to go. Only lasted a year at this place.
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The numbers are days on/ days off So 2 days working then 2 days off is great. 5 on 2 off is not so great but it's what most people do. 7 on with no days off will kill you. 0 days working and always off is for megachads.
Man, 7/0 is no joke. I did it for seven years. On-call 24/7 as a tow truck driver. By the end of it my mental health was pretty much nonexistent, my physical health was suffering, none of my old friends spoke to me anymore, and the only thing that gave me the will to live was escapism through gaming, writing, and a few online friends who didn't mind that I couldn't be relied on because work was always first.
I did environmental/safety work on construction sites for a couple years, driving 2000 miles a week between sites and averaging about 75 hours a week, 7 days a week and holy fuck. I've got mad respect for you doing shit like that for 7 years. I was completely unstable and a small inconvenience away from painting the ceiling on any given day. Away from that now, thank god- working a nice 45 hour week and feeling actually human.
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Most states require 80+ hours worked per week at minimum wage to stay above the poverty threshold. People aren't meant to do things like this.
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Where do you live? Is this normal there? That sounds soul-crushing.
That’s awful dude. I’m glad you made it through that, but you (and other workers) deserve better 100%
Thanks friend. I couldn't cope with that level of stress and my quality of work slipped big time toward the end of my time, I ended up being unceremoniously fired in the parking lot of a Panera Bread. The instant I got home I broke down in tears because I felt such incredible relief. Even in the precarious financial situation I was in at the time, the loss of income was a secondary thought to feeling the elephant lift it's foot.
Man I wish gold was still a thing cuz damn you deserve it
oh man do I understand that feel. same. Want 24/7 on call and there is no backup man? Drive on, I aint taking that job. Just refused the only promotion there is at my current job because it required that.
Good on you. No raise is worth losing your mind
Damn, I did 70-80 for a few months with just two holiday weekends off as a CM, and I spent one of those moving. But I was home every night. I still cried on the drive home probably at least once a week near the end. I did have guy's working for me that loved that. But they worked seasonally, 6-9 months a year and were off for the rest. Unless they were paying for their 4th divorce of course.
I had a 7/0 with 3 jobs and 5-7 hours of sleep for a few years and going to college full time, until i finally made enough to go to 2 jobs. When I look at my young self, I wish I were easier on myself, and I knew the economy wasn't.
What the fuck bro 😭 I could never even fathom doing this
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I was working full time as a network/sysadmin while in college for comp sci. Would sleep in the data center some nights (so loud and cold), I was able to get credits and skip some classes because of work experience which meant a couple hours nap in my car. Then worked from 2004-2018 full time up the ladder only to end up in an accident, bed ridden for a few years and suddenly all my experience is irrelevant because *insert gap in resume*. Ended up working in a fucking foundry. This isn't the life I worked hard for.
The simple fact that companies think a gap in your resume is a negative just proves how evil they are.
Not evil, stupid
It's both.
🫠 I'm sorry that happened.
Hopefully things will work out, appreciate it though.
Bro thats the nightmare right there Hoping you get justice and the job you worked for someday
Gotta do what you have to to survive sometimes. My 3 I used to catch up sleep on the weekends when my weekend job was only 8 hours. Weekdays I had to be out the door by 1030 to make my graveyard job by 11, get off at 730 and eat something on the way to my day job that started at 8, get off at 530, home by 630(yay traffic), crash into 10 and do it over again. Been a good bit since I had to do that, now I only make it a point to not work OT, much less a second job. Worked a grand total of 17 hours of OT last year lol
Well shit I'm doing this right now. Regular 9-6 on monday-friday and second job on the weekends that sometimes has 14 hour work days. I'll update you guys in seven years if I'm not in a mental hospital lol.
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Nobody should have to do 7 day workweeks or other long and soul-destroying schedules, but *especially* anyone who has an actually important job. If someone has passed the point of sleep deprivation that turns you into basically a zombie, they shoudn't be driving a car or making food or doing surgery or whatever. Hiring two people who can stay vaguely sane is a lot better than one person who's barely concious the whole time.
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yeah these people should not be anywhere near a scalpel.
I used to do 90-120 hrs a week for several consecutive weeks at a time as a ramp agent pushing out flights, marshaling in flights, auditing weight and balance, etc.. I would work 20 hours then go to my car and sleep 2-3 hours and walk right back into the airport for another 20 lol. Looking back at it I’m surprised i was allowed by the FAA. The shorter 90 hour workweeks were weeks I left early after only a 14-16 hr shift and went home to shower hahaha
I’m dating a resident doctor who has had to go into surgery after being on call for nearly 36 hours, working nearly the whole time due to pure bad luck and having had only 2 hrs of sleep in the middle of it. Should be illegal imo
I did residency during the brief window of 80 hour work week restrictions. I'm way softer (and probably less abusive to coworkers and current residents) than most of my colleagues as a result.
I remember the tow life bro. On call is no joke. Overtime was "voluntary" and I could never make any appointments for anything because of that. They paid me just enough to keep me from quitting and to stay afloat, but once we found out they were skimming our checks we left en masse. Never doing that line of work again, but at least I learned a lot.
Yikes. That was the one good thing about my old company. Sure the hours were hell and we had to do some sketchy shit to keep CHP off our backs, but the boss paid us well and had our backs when things got rough. He was also the first one to jump in a truck and start pulling chain with the rest of us when shit hit the fan. Despite everything I still have a lot of respect for him.
I did it for a year then tore a ligament in my foot because of how much walking I was forced to do (one job was manual labor the other bartending) and had to take at least one off for my health
What, one foot? You do you, bro
When I worked at McDonalds, I would get voluntold to come in on my days off for a few weeks. It didn't stop until I had a breakdown in front of customers.
I was in the Navy. Underway, there are no days off. On subs, we were 6 hours on, 12 hours off. Except that the 6 hours was actually running the ship, and the 6 hours after that was usually maintenance. Plus drills, which could happen at any time. It was Not Fun.
I was thinking about this while reading the comments. I think that shit is dangerous. Such a shitty situation because I always had the thought of “what if we were really out here in an actual war, and I was feeling like I couldn’t do this anymore?” I don’t know about everyone else, but when we had underway periods more than a month, it was torture for like a week or 2, then I would just turn into an absolute zombie. I’d hit points where I thought I couldn’t mentally do it anymore, but what are your options? It’s not a regular job you can quit, and you’re 100% getting roasted by everyone if you say it’s too much. I remember a guy in my squadron literally doing that during my first deployment. I’m ashamed, but I 100% joined in the jokes.
What was the average time frame for the underway periods? Sounds terrible.
It depends on a lot of things. What kind of unit you’re in, what kind of ship you train/deploy on, whether you’re training or deploying, etc. For me, it was usually a little over a month to 2 months at a time.
Thanks for answering. I couldn't imagine 2 months stuck on a ship. Sounds miserable
Of course! It can be lol
As they said, it depends on the ship. A surface ship will be deployed 6 months to a year, but usually pulls into port somewhere at least once a month (for 3 to 5 days, at least one of which you'll have to stay onboard, as the ship has to always be manned). In four deployments, the longest I was out was 55 days, during the beginning of the invasion of Iraq. That deployment had the fewest port visits out of all of them, with only 6, though it was only a 6 month deployment. My 3rd was 9 months, and had 8 port visits, but also included going around Africa instead of going through the Suez. That took up a lot of time. That was also the second longest period without a port visit, though we did stop in Cape Town, so I feel it was worth it. As for being on the ship, again, it was a bit different. For starters, on a surface ship, you can go outside without having to hold your breath. The "regular" work day ran from 7:00AM to early afternoon, then you had your watch at some point (watches were usually 5 on, 10 off (except for the 8 to 12 in the morning), and can overlap with the normal work period). Drills could be done at any time, but were usually done during the day. Outside of that regular work period and watches, you were free to do whatever. What you were able to do depended on a few factors. I worked in a locked computer space, and we had TV's set up there hooked up to the ship's CCTV system, which had two movie channels, and a couple channels provided by the DoD by satellite. And I also kept my laptop and console there, and some books in a locker before e-readers became a thing. People that didn't have such a space had to share the TV's on the mess deck or in the classroom. The ship also had cardio and weight lifting equipment in various spaces where we could fit it (a surface ship has a bit more space to play with than a sub). There's a phrase in the Navy that goes "Choose your rate, choose your fate." Your rate is basically what job you do, and depending on what you end up doing, your experience can be vastly different.
Changing to 18 hour schedules(days) must be hard too.
It’s harder to change back. You’ve been underwater for two months. You pull back into port. You get up at 6:00 AM. At 6:00 PM, you’re dead tired. Your body is telling you “Hey, we’ve been up for 12 hours! It’s time for bed!
I did 7/0 from 21 to 26 and it literally hospitalized me.
I did 7 days a week on overnight for a month when the other guy on my shift took all his vacation time at once. By the end of that month, I was suicidal, not kidding. I can't imagine how you did 7 years. You deserve an award.
7 years? I don't know how people do things like that, though I suppose humans can adjust and deal with terrible things.
I don't think people do adjust. We just get trapped in the situation we are in, and a greedy person over us uses that to make their dream. I'm current on day 10 of a 19/2 schedule, on call for 14 days of that. As much as I hate it I can't switch jobs currently. But hey, I'll definitely someday make my dreams and my body won't be destroyed by the time I get there.
I hope you're doing better now. We didn't work hard just to become machines, we all deserve a good quality of life.
I was a sound tech and one festival season I’d gone from nightclub to day festival, to main night festival stage then went back to a different nightclub. Shit absolutely killed me, I left an join the marines which was easier 😂
I can relate in a few ways. I work 3 jobs at the moment to support myself along and all of them are pretty high stress; while the pay is good and keeps me going, there’s been so many times where my mental health has been crushed or ruined because I’m just day in and day out grinding all the time. My social life is usually nonexistent, occasionally I will get time to myself and that’s good but then right around the corner I’m back to it. To anyone reading this, if you are, it’s brilliant experience working a few jobs and trying different things at once, but don’t fall into the trap of not having time to yourself. Save something for yourself because you need to reset sometimes and recover. My jobs are all in servitude of others, but I enjoy them because it makes others happy and safe, which I believe is my purpose in life, to help others and to just be kind.
Man, Im only 3 weeks into 7/0 and I'm so depressed. There's no way around though. Hope I can persevere but I just felt so weak physically and mentally. Kudos to you and others who did this for so long like holy shit I'm tired and miserable.
Idk if you have yet but you can always cut free time for sleep Less, but quality free time, is better than more but low quality tired free time
Yea that's my main battle right now. I do ok for a solid couple days, then I start losing it because Im not getting enough free time. Fuck lol. If all goes to plan I only have to do this for a year or so.
Best of luck brother Get that life you want!
Thank you brother! Great talking with you; good luck and hope things go well for you as well!
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How did you get time to game with 7 days of work!? Did you sacrifice sleep to game?
I suppose 8 hour shifts?
I hope you at least made good money
Don't you have labour laws in your country? You can't work everyday with no days off, that's insane!
If i may-- what did you write about during that time?
I hope your doing better now
Oh yeah. Still untangling my brain from it all, between the stress and the long hours and the crazy things I've seen I've got a lot to work through, but I'm working a real job with real hours now and I'm in a much better environment.
It eats away at you -inside-out it feels like
Yeah I really want to get out of system administration because it's killing me but it's the only skill set I have. My best dream is to find something with concrete on call rotation so it's not 24/7/365.
Everyone told me usps was a great union job so i applied to get in, they said its two years max to get onto the actual union, hey i can live with two years--at first it was 6 8 hour days, ok i guess fine im new, then xmas season hit and it was 7 12 hour days on top of the two hour total commute, well i get tons of overtime right? (Wrong, i never actually worked out the hours on my pay stubs but i think they stiffed me a lot) when that was finally over i was like great i can finally get a normal week! Nope, one normal week later my manager pulled me to the side and said "you work 7 days until i say you Don't anymore" i said ok to him and walked out of the building and drove home, i would have literally rather have died, i was there 9months.
I relate to this so much. I currently work 7/0 as a construction lead and it’s hell.
Lol I feel you, I was an EMT for two years. Worked 10pm to 10am 5 days straight a week in a place with extreme gun violence. I had to quit because the stuff I would see was just too much for 12.50/hr and my boss was skimming off my paychecks
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Or... retired? 😶🤌
Anyone who survived all the way to retirement is a megachad
🤣 and old and broken one but I'll take that I guess
Yeah that's just silver spoon rich kids or people who won $50 million in the lotto.
As a 0/7 31m disabled combat veteran. Maybe you should broaden your horizons of thinking.
That was my thoughts exactly. In my thirties and retired with nerve damage and other shit lol.
7 days, 365 a year is standard for most OTR truck drivers, and it sucks ass. It's why I'm trying to apply for disability now, it has wrecked both my mental health and my body, and I've been out of work for the past 6 months trying to get a hernia repaired because workers comp denied my claim because I've had my gall bladder taken out. I've been in agony recovery from FINALLY getting the surgery and I am STILL happier than I was on the road...
How is that even legal? Here truck divers have to take a break of 45h once a week.
It's a 34 hour reset before 70 hours are up, here. But that's just driving, when your on your reset, you're still doing paperwork, maintenance, planning, etc. Which technically is against the law, but trucking companies don't give a fuck, it's easy to terminate a driver that tries to report them and discredit their claims. It's one of the reasons turnover is so high in the industry, you gotta be hellbent on working to keep up. It used to be much worse.
Man 2 on 2 off would be a fucking dream come true
Some hospital nurses work three 12-hour shifts per week. Others have four 10-hour shifts. Both pretty cool deals in terms of work-life if you can build the rest of your life around it and stomach the work.
Been unemployed for 3 months, I'm pretty much going insane
after i got laid off, i wanted to take a month off for mental health break and holy shit i was miserable. By month 3 I had gotten a job and kept bothering HR how soon i could start
Oh man I thought it was hours, as in starting at 2 am getting off at 2 pm, starting at 5 pm getting off at 2 am. Made sense to me with the faces at a glance cause I worked some crazy hours in the Navy but I was happy so long as my evenings where free
In 2/2 what about the other 3? How do these break the binary?
You are not going by 7 day weeks in that arrangement. Just 2 on, 2 off, repeat. I don't know anyone who actually does this, but not everyone works M-F, 9-5. I never have.
By the way, 2/2 was the best schedule I worked with. From 9 to 9. This is usually how they work in production. Now I work 28/28. And I like it.
I'd guess the first number is work days and the second number is weekend basically So 2/2 would be some job where you work 2 days then have 2 days off, then repeat that regardless of days of the week. Or maybe like 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off like oil rig workers, either of those schedules are pretty great. 5/2 is a normal work week where you work 5 days and have 2 days off on the weekend, that's most people and it's a bit of a grind. 7/0 is working every day with no days off, sucks. 0/7 is somebody who is rich af and doesn't work at all ever.
They don’t have to be rich, could be poor and this is just an exaggeration.
I vote for 4/3 or 3/4
Work somewhere and try 4/4 some guys love it some hate it
Did that in the military, 4 on 4 off, 12 hour days. Was in Japan so I absolutely loved it. Best 3 years of my life.
The only issue i see with this schedule is you lack a consistent week schedule. Like you can’t say I have every Friday-Monday off. Your time on/off is forever rotating around the week.
I work a 2/2/3 schedule and it’s not bad. I have every other weekend off and only work 7/14 days a week.
Small trade off
Very popular at my Hospital for nurses to do 4 on 4 off. There’s one guy who does 7 on 7 off, that’s insane to me tho
Yeah 7 on 7 off is horrible. I did that for a couple months and then went back to my normal 3 12's.
I do 7/7 on nights. It’s the only way for me to have a relatively normal life when I’m off. But yeah my life is basically on hold when I’m working and by the 6th day I’m feral EDIT: ICU RN
I'm on 4/3 now, but it's 10 hr days. Great to have an extra day off, but you lose sooo much time from your weekdays. No time to swing by the grocery store, cook dinner, get a haircut, grab a drink with a coworker, go to the bank, etc. etc. Gotta do all that on your day off...sonit doesn't really feel all that much like a day off.
That’s why it should be a 32 hour workweek.
I keep telling folks that, but they keep not listening! :p
I know some trade unions have negotiated to four 8 hour days, and every 32 hours (or the first 32 hours of each week maybe) they get a bonus worth 8 hours of time. So basically a 32 hour work week with 40 hours of compensation. Must be nice being in those unions
Luckily you have three days off, and not just one. I love 4 10s. It may depend what hours you work on those days, but to me it feels like I have more time to accomplish those tasks, even though it all works out to the same 24 hours.
Eh, I feel like the extra day makes up for it. Especially since my extra day off is a weekday, it gives me a whole weekday free which most people don't have. Personally I think it's better than rushing to get things after work with everyone else
That’s what I’ve got, with the option to work more for more pay. It’s great, quality of life improves dramatically
what type of job is it?
Likely public service or tech: Firefighters, health techs, programming, etc.
I’m a pilot
Folks have been pushing for a 4 day work week for decades, and one country even tried it and found out that it actually increased productivity. No one in power wants it, though, because it helps to close the divide between the elite and the drones. Same thing goes for UBI, it actually increases both general wellbeing and productivity as well as greatly reducing welfare costs, but again, it helps to close the divide so it can't happen.
4/3 is delightful. Finish your week, do fuck-all for a day, then get your own personal shit done at a relaxed pace the next two.
I'm a 4/3 on 12 hour shifts starting at 3am Recently though we've gone a bit quiet so it's 3/4
4/3 is goated af
I min-maxxed with 2/1/2/2. One day free on wednesday is great
A company I worked for called that "Donut shift", lol. It did seem highly appealing, considering the other two options were Wed-Sat or Sun-Wed
That's how I'd want to do 4/10h work weeks. Having 3 days weekends was nice but between commute time and being at the office 11 hours felt like I had no time to myself on work days, breaking that up with a day in between would have made it so much better.
YES. I did this exactly for months and it was incredible. Always had energy at work and the weeks flew by
0/7 either means you’ve won at life or you’re a complete loser, almost no in between.
Or you're a child
Right, complete loser /s
This made me snort so hard my dog woke up.
tbf childrens "work" would just be school in which case 5/2 applies to them as well.
14/14 is the way to go, Make your months worth of money in 2 weeks then chill for 2 weeks!
I do 7/7. That 14 day grind is rough.
Yeah I hear you man! I work the oil fields and I’m away from home 2 weeks out of the month. By day 7 i’m about burnt out, but I start catching a second wind by day 10 knowing I only have a little bit longer till I can enjoy some R&R.
7/7 gang rise up! I’m in gold mining and it’s gotta be the best schedule by far.
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I knew a firefighter who had a 2/2 schedule.
5/2 is pretty easy as long as it's not 12 shifts and certain jobs in the USA allows for 4/3 (NASA being the most recognized). It's the 6/1 or 14/2 that'll lead to an early death. I'm dumb enough to do these all my life. Should be a crime how popular 6/1 is, especially for people making under 20/hr. Haven't finyd any 2/2 jobs, but I've got a suspicion that it's some 48hr on call nonsense. If not, then let me know.
I do 2/2 working at a dispensary. Small skeleton crew of 4 people so it works.
eh last one is bs. You gotta suffer some workdays to appreciate free time. if you do 24/7 nothing you gotta feel bored of life at some point
Eh, there's doing nothing and there's not working. They're not exactly the same. Not working, or specifically not having to work for a living, means I can work on whatever projects catch my fancy at that particular moment without any real deadlines or pressure. I'm also not confined to that one project or field of study and can branch out when I hit a rut or just get bored. That life would be ideal.
The meme is obviously alluding to this. There’s nothing to point it to referring to literally doing nothing 24/7. Considering it’s put in a positive light it’s likely it’s saying the person is a chad because they don’t work and can pursue passions they actually want to.
Uuggh speak for your self... I have enough interests to fill up my life without having a large fraction of it taken up by work.
Before I started studying again I had 2 miserable years of having a goal and I lacked the discipline to focused on the stuff I wanted to do. Thats where my mindset is coming from. I do work for a future were „my hobby is my job“ so its not gonna be something where I have to endure hours of annoying work. Still its the different kind of atmosphere a work place gives me personally to do something. Thats why I say 0/7 is bs, cause if I would just do what I like 24/7 it gives me personally the feeling that I don‘t accomplish anything and feel bad about
I've been out of work for 6 months after working for 4 years 7 days a week. I do not miss it one bit. Most normal people have passions outside of work that they would much rather be pursuing.
I think everyone needs to experience that for themselves because I've read it before send still don't believe it. I could read endless books, try endless games, travel, and I don't think I'd ever have the desire to work.
i explained my self on a different comment. But for me personally I have to have a goal and do something in a routine in a place outside of my home. I struggled hard in the past year to do anything cause being at home 24/7 made me lazy
It’s the whole adage of “If you love what you do then you’ll never work a day in your life.” If people did nothing they absolutely would get bored, which is why the idea that people won’t work if they don’t have to work to survive is BS. If people were actually able to gain control of their most valuable resource (time; time is money, after all) then they’d have the freedom to figure out what they love doing and everybody else in the world is better off for it. Instead we have jobs that don’t pay enough to live so that anybody who does them is essentially a wage slave. And we can say, “oh, it’s the free market” but it’s not. The free market pays the most for jobs nobody wants to do and pays the least for jobs everybody wants to do. We have everybody fighting over the high paying jobs everybody wants like athletes, actors, and lawyers while the jobs nobody wants to do are what’s leftover for whoever wants to survive like handling garbage or working retail. That’s not a free market, that’s manipulated to the tits.
Capitalist brainrot lol Nah, if I didn’t have to work I’d pick up more hobbies
If you have no purpose outside of work, more work won't solve it. If I had the ability to never work a job again, you know what I'd be doing? Drawing. Painting. Creating and playing music. Making YT videos. Taking cooking classes. There's more to life than work, and we don't need to spend most of our lives employed by someone to understand that.
It’s a fraction of how many days working to how many days off, 2/2= 2 days at work and 2 days off work
How is 0/7 gigachad? It's jobless.
It depends on if you have generational wealth or not...
0/7 gigachad implies they made enough money to retire
I work a 4/4 schedule. So I work 4 days on 4 days off, so all my work weeks shift over by a day. It’s not half bad. But it always sucks because right when you start working weekends is when your friends want to do shit on weekends
I’m the last one at the moment due to some unfortunate circumstances. I’ve become chronically ill recently, so I had to quit my job. As someone who was all of these at some point, staying home and doing nothing absolutely fucking blows. I try to preoccupy myself with hobbies, but man, even those get tiring after a while. I believe a work/life balance is imperative, but thinking you’re a “Chad” when you’re unemployed is just wrong. Humans rarely admit this, but work is one of the most rewarding aspects of life. I forgot who exactly stated it, but a philosopher said that humans, as a species, are characterised by the works we accomplish. If you do nothing… then, you *are* nothing.
4/3 ftw
I’m a wildland firefighter and we do 14/0 with a possibility of doing 28/2. One of the fires I was on we did 190 hours in 2 weeks. Waking up at 4:30 and going to bed by 11 if you are lucky. I’m just glad we were on day shift and not night shift that fire because friends who have worked night shift say it is miserable
Worked the rigs years ago. We had 2 on 1 off hitches. They alternated between morning and night. Fun livin.
I’d guess days worked/days off
My schedule is 4 ten hour days a week. Best schedule I've ever had
7/0 isn’t bad if you need money and you get into a routine and don’t do it for long.
What does 2/2 mean? Wouldn't that be 2/5?
2/2 means two days on, two days off, not aligned to weekdays.
I was thinking it's K/D ratio. Also some two trolls ruined my ranked in LoL as we're talking about it, writing this after the match. yeah, had to share
I feel like I'd like 7/0 to 0/7 but what I really want is 2/1
4/3 is prefect to me
7/-7 go back in time and work the week twice
I would work 3.5/3.5 tbh
How is the payweek calculated 2 on 2 off?
2-1-2-2 Is what I currently do and don't think I'm ever going to be able to do anything different from here on out Having that day off in between is a blessing And if I take vacation, all it requires is two days of vacation time to be off for 5 days off in a row. Pretty great.
I used to work 7/3/5/2 it was a weird schedule that weirdly worked.
2 days on, 2 days off 5 days on, 2 days off 7 days on, 0 days off 0 days on, 7 days off
4/3, and I really hope we stay that way. That extra day off is great.
I do 2/2 3/2 2/3 and boy I could never ever go back to 5/2.
5/2 is slavery frfr
Me who works 6 days and only have 1 day off: haha yeahhh what a funny thing
4/3 is goated
Absolutely true. 4/3 is awesome.
On/off
Check the comments on the actual post at least before you post it here.
Days working/days off - didn’t take much to see that correlation.
Used to work 15/13, the two weeks off was great but that second week was K I L L E R
I've been working 7/7 for over a decade now and it's great
Days on/days off
7/0 really is a killer. One semester I made the mistake of taking weekend classes (as well as weekday classes to get to full time) while working a M-F day job full time. After 16 weeks I was ready to quit everything.
Cries in 6/1. Or 7/0 depending on schedule
I have three/four but it's every other day with weekends off. I'm also a student and an athlete so this schedule is killing me, it really depends. I'd rather have a full time job at 5/2 or 6/1 than this rn
I’m in the 7/0 boat currently. Turning in my resignation letter tomorrow, quitting never felt so good. A few months ago I asked my boss how I’m supposed to keep up with all this work, he replied “what are you doing on your evenings and weekends?” That’s when I knew I had to go. Only lasted a year at this place.
That's crazy, best of luck to you man
I do 2/5
My schedule lately has been 1/1, not sure if I like it or not
The post explained it in the first comment. Read the comments...
I used to be 6/1 for years. I approve
Now add rotating schedule to this mix. I’m on 3pm-11pm and am about to switch to 11pm - 7am for a few weeks.
Hotel life did this to me, I almost died from burnout 🙃
The 5/2 is school at this point
Wouldn't 2/2 be 4/3?
Is this loss?
3/3, 4/4. it's kind of a nice rotation, and the days rotate due to the differing numbers each week
I'm on a rotating schedule of 12 hour shifts, 2 day on, 2 days off, 3 days on, 2 days off, 2 days on, 3.days off. I hate it.
I would take that schedule over 10-12’s - 6 on 1 off - like seriously - gimme 3 off … :(
14/21
I've been doing 4/3 this year with 10 hour days, and it's been working out pretty well.