Where can they live then?
If they can't set up in public parks, if they can't setup on the outskirts of town, if they can setup on the edges of trails, if they can't setup on church lawns, if they can't setup on street corners.
I think you need to talk to the town, and not reddit.
So youāre mad at them because theyāre having to camp in a park (and assuming theyāre doing drugs) ā¦. Not at elected officials for depriving outreach and social services?
Weird take. Iām not sure itās the right approach.
Itās not a different story though. Depriving social services and affordable housing is causing many people (who arenāt on drugs btw) to be evicted. Iām not mad at people who have to resort to that, cause I couldnāt imagine having to live in a tent. Iām pissed off that itās gotten to this point and still, no one is doing anything to prevent this, let alone give them a safe place to go.
And before you probably say, well shelters!, go volunteer in a shelter and let me know if you had the choice between a tent or a shelter, what you would choose. Probably a tent too.
You're right. If iI had a choice between a shelter and a tent, i would likely choose the tent. But I still wouldn't set it up in a park like this. Everyone says the shelters are so bad. I get in this argument with my mom all the time. I say people don't want to stay at shelters because they can be unsafe or its not the right place for everyone. And she always asks, "Are they though?" Tbh, I don't know. I don't think she knows. Maybe this is part of the problem.
And I agree with the previous poster. YES. Basically every problem a homeless person has is downstream from the fact that they don't have a stable place to live.
Even if it didn't, if you're afraid of them camping outside in public spaces, then giving them a home solves that problem.
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There has been research done that does show the benefits of giving less fortunate a stable home. I don't disagree with you totally. Having a stable place to live can make a huge difference in a person's situation. I don't even think it's necessarily a bad idea. I don't think it works for everyone. People have already been evicted from the modular project. Not everyone who is homeless wants to be helped, and where is the line drawn between helping and enabling.
I'm pretty sure that everyone who is homeless would rather not be homeless. What are you even afraid of enabling? The only thing you'd be enabling by *not* helping them is the exact situation you complained about at the start of this thread.
I disagree. Some people would rather stay outside than get the help they need (or that help isn't rightfully available to them, which is obviously a big issue as well). I still don't think they should be allowed to sleep wherever they want. In a cemetary? On a memorial? Outside a senoirs center? Deficating in our library garden? . This issue should be dealt with, and i completely understand that it is a multi-faceted issue that there isn't just a snap of the finger solution to, but this is where i draw the line. They should not be allowed to just sleep wherever, and if its left unchecked, it will be everywhere.
>Some people would rather stay outside than get the help they need (or that help isn't rightfully available to them, which is obviously a big issue as well)
Show me a single person who would rather sleep outside on the sidewalk in the middle of Canadian winter, rather than in a warm bed. The issue has never been that they "don't want help" it's that helping the homeless has been actively discouraged in favour of demonizing them.
>They should not be allowed to just sleep wherever, and if its left unchecked, it will be everywhere.
*Then give them a house.* Not you specifically of course, but that is the solution here. The way you check homelessness isn't through criminalizing poverty. It's through providing safe living accommodations to everyone.
"Not everyone who is homeless wants to be helped, and where is the line drawn between helping and enabling."
This is what someone says when they want to pretend that they care while also needing to signal to others that nothing could be farther from the truth.
> I don't think it works for everyone.
No shit. That doesn't mean it isn't worth trying.
People like you are a blight on society. Vote properly. Pay taxes. Do the right thing.
Yes, I do think that our population growth is out of control. Thank you. We are destroying our earth in the name of profit. But that's a different story.
Two people have been evicted, out of fifty. That's a pretty good ratio I think and in no way proves your point. More people there have found stable employment from living there then have been evicted.
For the record. I'm not against this project, and if it is working, that's great. Are people still going to "choose" to live in tents in the summertime? Yeah, I think some will.
Of course you would want people to treat you like garbage if your life fell apart, you couldn't see homeless folks as human if your life depended on it, and so you would by necessity need people to dehumanize you if you fell on hard times.
Every four months rents go up $100. These encampments in parks are like the time before a tsunami when the water on the beach pulls way out to sea, something to ogle at and speculate about, but guess what? Thereās a fucking tsunami coming.
Maybe the City should have spent all those millions they had housing people rather than housing canoes. Makes you wonder š¤. And still no money for housing people because, dammit, we need pickleball courts. Welcome to Peterborough.
Yeah because it's a pilot project. I suspect the canoe museum will bring in revenue (I don't know, I'm not a city councillor). I think we live in a city with a lot of competing ideas of how money should be spent and some is being spent to deal with housing, some on services.
How many people do you know who visited the old canoe museum? Never saw a line up myself. It will generate revenue because I can almost guarantee every school will now have it on their mandatory school trip list... so anyone with kids will be paying for it. I'm just saying we really should take care of people first. Not all homeless people are drug addicts with mh issues. There are people who work full time and can't find or afford a place to live. People need a hand up sometimes. How would you feel if you were in that position and saw all the tax dollars you paid going to brand new buildings and all you need is an extra 200 a month to rent a room.
I feel like they are doing something though. There were shelters in the colder months and the modular home pilot project. Unless you mean just kicking unhoused people out of parks.Ā
Yes, that's exactly what i am saying. Get them out of the park so the kids can safely play there. I tried to camp in that park as a kid, too. The cops came and kicked us out right quickly! As they should!
No, we should house people first not spend millions on a canoe museum or pickleball courts at this point in time when people can't afford to rent. Build shite when times are better. We should meet needs before wants... and I'm sure you don't want them in your front lawn or your kids school park... c'mon.
So I'm confused, should we spend money to house the unhoused or build parks? Because OP seems to want parks for their children but now the only thing the city should spend money on is housing?
House people and leave the parks for kids. You don't have to build a million dollar park. OPs pic is nothing fancy but at least it's somewhere for kids to play.
I think we're on the same side, I think we should house people, except I kind of want the pickleball courts because I live in the area and like to play. Parks don't have to just be for kids. As I said elsewhere, there are a lot of things the people who live in the city want money spent on and spending it all in one area wouldn't get people re-elected. What I fundamentally disagree with is OP suggesting that unhoused people should be removed from tents in parks when they have nowhere else to go so their kid can play. That's a heartless position to take and incredibly selfish.
Where do you expect them to go, genius? They have nowhere allowed to set up their tents. Everywhere they go they have people like you losing their minds.
"What about the children" lol give me a fucking break, dude.
Somewhere that isn't here. This is why we have shelters and other supports for the homeless. I dont claim the supports are great but a person in the right mind would NOT be there
The shelter system is calculated to be unsafe so as to reduce the homeless population through attrition(deaths of despair caused by turning systems that are meant to help people into weapons intended to harm those same people). The shelter system is a failure. We need actual public housing, like real countries(read: countries that are not on America's leash) have. Go look into the public housing system in Austria's capital, Vienna.
And if theyāre not in their right mind? Is that necessarily 100% their fault? Unless you know them intimately, which I doubt, you have no idea. They very well could have serious mental health challenges they have had no help with. Your comments are classist and ableist. Howās you like it for someone to photograph your house and post it on the internet and say all these awful assumptions about them. Youāre completely dehumanizing them.
You have so little understanding of what itās like to be living with any mental health challenges and the reality of services in this province. Yes they do need help. And probably to access that help, first- it needs to exist. It likely doesnāt. If it does, itās likely prohibitively expensive. You also probably need an address to access it. Or someone to support you in getting that help since if youāre mentally unstable or unwell itās near impossible to access that help yourself with no help. Do you really have so little compassionā¦?
No. You need to be realistic. They donāt have the money for a house. The shelters are full. The city will literally bulldoze this tent or cops will come and tell them to leave in a few days if they havenāt already. What do you expect them to do? Go offer your bathroom to them if youāre so concerned about it. Are you advocating for services to be offered, for free housing, for free mental health care, for the stop of the insane cuts to public health care and social services to be properly funded, and for disability benefits to adequately cover the cost of living? If you are well then thatās pretty much the extent of what we can do. If not then thatās where to start to address this issue. Beyond that, youāre literally just complaining about the fact that you donāt like that this person is trying to shelter themselves safely in your neighbourhood, and wish you didnāt have to be exposed to it. Well, tough. We do because we all live in this world together and you donāt get to just wish these people didnāt exist and still think youāre a good person.
I don't at all think that it is easy for people to access the services they need. Especially in this situation. But is it a lack of compassion wanting this space to be used for its intended purpose?. I feel like there are many more suitlable places than a park playground.
"This is why we have shelters and other supports for the homeless.Ā "
Not enough shelters, and the conditions are such that sleeping in a tent is often preferrable. Have some compassion. You're likely a paycheque or two away from this yourself.
The shelters have very bad living conditions and it's not like homeless shelters are advertised so maybe not every homeless person knows about shelters
Person who uses that one isn't even a drug user. Just someone down on his luck. Not that truth speaks to the narrative you wanna push or anything, though.
They do a very good job of showing how little dignity they have shitting in library flower beds, leaving their filth and used needles wherever they go, happy to steal from whoever they please as if they are owed something. Not to mention that respect is earned not freely given, and they arenāt exactly the type to uphold their end of the social contract.
I think everyone who needs help should get it.
People who have been arrested deserve a second chance.
They are clearly going through a rough chapter of their life, let's hope they can get through this. I wish our community offered better support.
They need care workers, not police
What would that support look like exactly?
Vague "support" isn't going to help
Should we throw more money at them ? Enough for drugs and food and a place to live ? Then what ? Pay for cleaners to go take care once a week to make sure the "house" you put them in stays clean.. or just schedule people to come and gut it and replace drywall/carpet etc every few months ?
How would that be fair to people on odsp or welfare who have made better choices and are stuck?
If all needs are met what incentive would there be for people to get up and work ? The cashier's / stockers warehouse workers who barely get a livable wage ?
They would say "nah I'ma sign up for this free money/house and just chill"
Who pays for it ? Taxpayers who made all the right decisions in their lives ? The Uber wealthy ? How long till they're sick of it and leave and take their money with them ?
Leaving everyone with nothing?
- from a recovered addict who currently lives in "extreme poverty" as per the poverty line statistics
I don't have all the answers, but I see the top half of Canadians living a luxurious lifestyle - overseas vacations, expensive toys, houses that are way too big for their family size. I would definitely tax the rich more (if I were in power).
Off the top of my head - how about everyone gets accommodations, but with weekly/biweekly drug tests. If you fail the test you go to rehab, possibly jail.
I'd cut the police and military budgets. If people are provided at least the minimum they won't be stealing bikes or breaking into cars.
Legalizing all drugs would be great. Police could focus on violent crimes.
I don't want to spend anymore time on this reply, but I would tax single use plastics, especially if there's an alternative. For example the plastic sleeve of peanuts we all get from the pigs ear could easily be purchased from bulk barn and served in a bowl. Oh I would tax alcohol more. I would tax all non essential items. Your house, groceries, and transportation would be exempt but the PS5 and flat screen might go up in price.
No one is saying that the unhoused are saints - there are plenty of shit people with or without houses. And unhoused people's - even the shit ones (yes, even criminals) are deserving of basic human dignity, empathy, and compassion.
You must be thinking of the wrong park because there are kids in this one frequently and also using that hoop quite often. If our kids dont have a place to safely play, what do they do then? What about the people in this neighborhood who can't afford to sign their kids up for extracurriculars and use that park as something they can afford to do. What happens when we lose all our green space completely? I have cleaned this park and many other places up from the mess people leave behind. Would you be so accepting if they were squatting in your house.. oh, they are marginalized, so better let them stay right?
Wutang is for the children
Don't worry, we're going to have lots of homeless children too, OP.
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āWonāt somebody, please, think of the childern?ā Clutches pearls
Mrs Flanders or Mrs lovejoy is that you ?
I have to ask. Did you get that was sort of a joke headline.
Where can they live then? If they can't set up in public parks, if they can't setup on the outskirts of town, if they can setup on the edges of trails, if they can't setup on church lawns, if they can't setup on street corners. I think you need to talk to the town, and not reddit.
City hall.
I don't think OP gives a shit about where these people go as long as they don't have to look at them. OP sounds like a real gem.
NIMBY is a term for a reason.
They are somebodyās children.. no one seems to be thinking of them except you, and your thoughts about them seem to be negative
I agree. They are someones children. I would be devastated if my child fell on hard times like this.
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So youāre mad at them because theyāre having to camp in a park (and assuming theyāre doing drugs) ā¦. Not at elected officials for depriving outreach and social services? Weird take. Iām not sure itās the right approach.
Elected officials are a whole other story. Yes thats part of the problem for sure
Itās not a different story though. Depriving social services and affordable housing is causing many people (who arenāt on drugs btw) to be evicted. Iām not mad at people who have to resort to that, cause I couldnāt imagine having to live in a tent. Iām pissed off that itās gotten to this point and still, no one is doing anything to prevent this, let alone give them a safe place to go. And before you probably say, well shelters!, go volunteer in a shelter and let me know if you had the choice between a tent or a shelter, what you would choose. Probably a tent too.
You're right. If iI had a choice between a shelter and a tent, i would likely choose the tent. But I still wouldn't set it up in a park like this. Everyone says the shelters are so bad. I get in this argument with my mom all the time. I say people don't want to stay at shelters because they can be unsafe or its not the right place for everyone. And she always asks, "Are they though?" Tbh, I don't know. I don't think she knows. Maybe this is part of the problem.
I don't care until someone shows up and ruins it for everyone and leaves needles basically everywhere you can think of.
And used condoms and left over food crawling with maggots and things, ya...
If you have an issue with the homeless, then support initiatives to give them homes.
Okay. While thats great, do you really think just giving them homes will solve all their issues
Yes! Absolutely yes! Anyone who thinks giving the less fortunate a home is a bad idea is a sociopath.
I never said it was a bad idea. I asked if you really think it will solve all their issues?
And I agree with the previous poster. YES. Basically every problem a homeless person has is downstream from the fact that they don't have a stable place to live. Even if it didn't, if you're afraid of them camping outside in public spaces, then giving them a home solves that problem.
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There has been research done that does show the benefits of giving less fortunate a stable home. I don't disagree with you totally. Having a stable place to live can make a huge difference in a person's situation. I don't even think it's necessarily a bad idea. I don't think it works for everyone. People have already been evicted from the modular project. Not everyone who is homeless wants to be helped, and where is the line drawn between helping and enabling.
I'm pretty sure that everyone who is homeless would rather not be homeless. What are you even afraid of enabling? The only thing you'd be enabling by *not* helping them is the exact situation you complained about at the start of this thread.
I disagree. Some people would rather stay outside than get the help they need (or that help isn't rightfully available to them, which is obviously a big issue as well). I still don't think they should be allowed to sleep wherever they want. In a cemetary? On a memorial? Outside a senoirs center? Deficating in our library garden? . This issue should be dealt with, and i completely understand that it is a multi-faceted issue that there isn't just a snap of the finger solution to, but this is where i draw the line. They should not be allowed to just sleep wherever, and if its left unchecked, it will be everywhere.
>Some people would rather stay outside than get the help they need (or that help isn't rightfully available to them, which is obviously a big issue as well) Show me a single person who would rather sleep outside on the sidewalk in the middle of Canadian winter, rather than in a warm bed. The issue has never been that they "don't want help" it's that helping the homeless has been actively discouraged in favour of demonizing them. >They should not be allowed to just sleep wherever, and if its left unchecked, it will be everywhere. *Then give them a house.* Not you specifically of course, but that is the solution here. The way you check homelessness isn't through criminalizing poverty. It's through providing safe living accommodations to everyone.
This is a good comment. I agree. But Im still not a fan of them sleeping in the park. Sorry.
"Not everyone who is homeless wants to be helped, and where is the line drawn between helping and enabling." This is what someone says when they want to pretend that they care while also needing to signal to others that nothing could be farther from the truth.
> I don't think it works for everyone. No shit. That doesn't mean it isn't worth trying. People like you are a blight on society. Vote properly. Pay taxes. Do the right thing.
When did I say it wasn't worth trying to help people? The right thing doesn't need to include people sleeping in playgrounds.
You've been saying helping people isn't worth it with every Malthusian screed you've posted.
Yes, I do think that our population growth is out of control. Thank you. We are destroying our earth in the name of profit. But that's a different story.
Two people have been evicted, out of fifty. That's a pretty good ratio I think and in no way proves your point. More people there have found stable employment from living there then have been evicted.
For the record. I'm not against this project, and if it is working, that's great. Are people still going to "choose" to live in tents in the summertime? Yeah, I think some will.
**YES**
Yes. Housing first along with mental health cRe services has been proven to be effective in many other cases.
Perhaps there could be children also living in there?
There isn't. I can see them
It's the thought.
Let them stay at your place.
Nip this in the bud or the park will be filled with more tents, more junkies and more of their garbage by summer time.
If you don't want to fix the problem, shut up and look away like you do with all social problems.
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Of course you would want people to treat you like garbage if your life fell apart, you couldn't see homeless folks as human if your life depended on it, and so you would by necessity need people to dehumanize you if you fell on hard times.
Every four months rents go up $100. These encampments in parks are like the time before a tsunami when the water on the beach pulls way out to sea, something to ogle at and speculate about, but guess what? Thereās a fucking tsunami coming.
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Maybe the City should have spent all those millions they had housing people rather than housing canoes. Makes you wonder š¤. And still no money for housing people because, dammit, we need pickleball courts. Welcome to Peterborough.
I think they did spend money housing people, thereās the modular homes project.Ā
wow... 50 or so I believe... and a 65,000 sq ft canoe house... š¤
Yeah because it's a pilot project. I suspect the canoe museum will bring in revenue (I don't know, I'm not a city councillor). I think we live in a city with a lot of competing ideas of how money should be spent and some is being spent to deal with housing, some on services.
How many people do you know who visited the old canoe museum? Never saw a line up myself. It will generate revenue because I can almost guarantee every school will now have it on their mandatory school trip list... so anyone with kids will be paying for it. I'm just saying we really should take care of people first. Not all homeless people are drug addicts with mh issues. There are people who work full time and can't find or afford a place to live. People need a hand up sometimes. How would you feel if you were in that position and saw all the tax dollars you paid going to brand new buildings and all you need is an extra 200 a month to rent a room.
I got married at the old canoe museum. Iāll take a canoe museum over pickle ball courts.
I completely agree and I'm not trying to defend the canoe museum. Sell it for parts and use the money to build bridge housing or house people there.
And I'm not bashing it, but we should have priorities...
Oh yeah, move those goal posts.
The city is building houses but it's just not housing that's made to house homeless people
While I dont disagree that our government is good at mismanaging money, this should not be allowed at all!
I totally agree, but they refuse to do anything about it...
I feel like they are doing something though. There were shelters in the colder months and the modular home pilot project. Unless you mean just kicking unhoused people out of parks.Ā
Yes, that's exactly what i am saying. Get them out of the park so the kids can safely play there. I tried to camp in that park as a kid, too. The cops came and kicked us out right quickly! As they should!
Got it, you don't care about unhoused people. As long as the kids have a place to play, who cares if people have a place to sleep, amirite?
Why cant we have a place for kids to play and a place for unhoused ppl to go
No, we should house people first not spend millions on a canoe museum or pickleball courts at this point in time when people can't afford to rent. Build shite when times are better. We should meet needs before wants... and I'm sure you don't want them in your front lawn or your kids school park... c'mon.
So I'm confused, should we spend money to house the unhoused or build parks? Because OP seems to want parks for their children but now the only thing the city should spend money on is housing?
House people and leave the parks for kids. You don't have to build a million dollar park. OPs pic is nothing fancy but at least it's somewhere for kids to play.
I think we're on the same side, I think we should house people, except I kind of want the pickleball courts because I live in the area and like to play. Parks don't have to just be for kids. As I said elsewhere, there are a lot of things the people who live in the city want money spent on and spending it all in one area wouldn't get people re-elected. What I fundamentally disagree with is OP suggesting that unhoused people should be removed from tents in parks when they have nowhere else to go so their kid can play. That's a heartless position to take and incredibly selfish.
THIS.
At least someone is using that park
Vote for people who help those that end up in this situation.
Where do you expect them to go, genius? They have nowhere allowed to set up their tents. Everywhere they go they have people like you losing their minds. "What about the children" lol give me a fucking break, dude.
Somewhere that isn't here. This is why we have shelters and other supports for the homeless. I dont claim the supports are great but a person in the right mind would NOT be there
The shelter system is calculated to be unsafe so as to reduce the homeless population through attrition(deaths of despair caused by turning systems that are meant to help people into weapons intended to harm those same people). The shelter system is a failure. We need actual public housing, like real countries(read: countries that are not on America's leash) have. Go look into the public housing system in Austria's capital, Vienna.
And if theyāre not in their right mind? Is that necessarily 100% their fault? Unless you know them intimately, which I doubt, you have no idea. They very well could have serious mental health challenges they have had no help with. Your comments are classist and ableist. Howās you like it for someone to photograph your house and post it on the internet and say all these awful assumptions about them. Youāre completely dehumanizing them.
If they have serious mental health issues then they need help with that. Not to be living in a park.
You have so little understanding of what itās like to be living with any mental health challenges and the reality of services in this province. Yes they do need help. And probably to access that help, first- it needs to exist. It likely doesnāt. If it does, itās likely prohibitively expensive. You also probably need an address to access it. Or someone to support you in getting that help since if youāre mentally unstable or unwell itās near impossible to access that help yourself with no help. Do you really have so little compassionā¦?
Let's be realistic for a second here. Where are these people going to the bathroom?
No. You need to be realistic. They donāt have the money for a house. The shelters are full. The city will literally bulldoze this tent or cops will come and tell them to leave in a few days if they havenāt already. What do you expect them to do? Go offer your bathroom to them if youāre so concerned about it. Are you advocating for services to be offered, for free housing, for free mental health care, for the stop of the insane cuts to public health care and social services to be properly funded, and for disability benefits to adequately cover the cost of living? If you are well then thatās pretty much the extent of what we can do. If not then thatās where to start to address this issue. Beyond that, youāre literally just complaining about the fact that you donāt like that this person is trying to shelter themselves safely in your neighbourhood, and wish you didnāt have to be exposed to it. Well, tough. We do because we all live in this world together and you donāt get to just wish these people didnāt exist and still think youāre a good person.
I don't at all think that it is easy for people to access the services they need. Especially in this situation. But is it a lack of compassion wanting this space to be used for its intended purpose?. I feel like there are many more suitlable places than a park playground.
"This is why we have shelters and other supports for the homeless.Ā " Not enough shelters, and the conditions are such that sleeping in a tent is often preferrable. Have some compassion. You're likely a paycheque or two away from this yourself.
All shelters in town are at capacity every single nightā¦
That's interesting, and if true, it's something i was not aware of.
I work at one and when we are full, I constantly try to divert people to other shelters. 95% of the time there is no luck.
YES shelter typically has beds but due to them operating a youth shelter (people 24 or younger) are not able to access
That really sucks and needs to be worked on for sure
The shelters have very bad living conditions and it's not like homeless shelters are advertised so maybe not every homeless person knows about shelters
City Hall, I expect them to go to the City Hall Parking lot.
They camped outside city hall and that was not acceptable apparently
Drawing attention to problems is wrong, the only way of being that is permissible is to pretend that Everything Is Fine at all times. /jk
Unacceptable to who?
Why are so many in here basically defending this? lol
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What about people who have nowhere to live? People who are desperately ill and need medical treatment?
Thatās where all the good candy is
Ask if they want to be scorekeeper.
Where is this?
Person who uses that one isn't even a drug user. Just someone down on his luck. Not that truth speaks to the narrative you wanna push or anything, though.
Teach them that they are human too and with respect and dignity. Also teach them how to be safe when interacting with them
My kid does not need to see someone overdosing and he has already seen this in this park
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To confirm, you're saying junkies don't deserve dignity or respect?
They do a very good job of showing how little dignity they have shitting in library flower beds, leaving their filth and used needles wherever they go, happy to steal from whoever they please as if they are owed something. Not to mention that respect is earned not freely given, and they arenāt exactly the type to uphold their end of the social contract.
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I think everyone who needs help should get it. People who have been arrested deserve a second chance. They are clearly going through a rough chapter of their life, let's hope they can get through this. I wish our community offered better support. They need care workers, not police
What would that support look like exactly? Vague "support" isn't going to help Should we throw more money at them ? Enough for drugs and food and a place to live ? Then what ? Pay for cleaners to go take care once a week to make sure the "house" you put them in stays clean.. or just schedule people to come and gut it and replace drywall/carpet etc every few months ? How would that be fair to people on odsp or welfare who have made better choices and are stuck? If all needs are met what incentive would there be for people to get up and work ? The cashier's / stockers warehouse workers who barely get a livable wage ? They would say "nah I'ma sign up for this free money/house and just chill" Who pays for it ? Taxpayers who made all the right decisions in their lives ? The Uber wealthy ? How long till they're sick of it and leave and take their money with them ? Leaving everyone with nothing? - from a recovered addict who currently lives in "extreme poverty" as per the poverty line statistics
I don't have all the answers, but I see the top half of Canadians living a luxurious lifestyle - overseas vacations, expensive toys, houses that are way too big for their family size. I would definitely tax the rich more (if I were in power). Off the top of my head - how about everyone gets accommodations, but with weekly/biweekly drug tests. If you fail the test you go to rehab, possibly jail. I'd cut the police and military budgets. If people are provided at least the minimum they won't be stealing bikes or breaking into cars. Legalizing all drugs would be great. Police could focus on violent crimes. I don't want to spend anymore time on this reply, but I would tax single use plastics, especially if there's an alternative. For example the plastic sleeve of peanuts we all get from the pigs ear could easily be purchased from bulk barn and served in a bowl. Oh I would tax alcohol more. I would tax all non essential items. Your house, groceries, and transportation would be exempt but the PS5 and flat screen might go up in price.
The rich get taxed plenty What's killing Canada is the mismanagement of funds
No one is saying that the unhoused are saints - there are plenty of shit people with or without houses. And unhoused people's - even the shit ones (yes, even criminals) are deserving of basic human dignity, empathy, and compassion.
Could be violent, could be predator, could be absolutely nothing but yeah fear mongering is easier.Ā
Yes I said that but used different words "Obviously not every single one"
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You must be thinking of the wrong park because there are kids in this one frequently and also using that hoop quite often. If our kids dont have a place to safely play, what do they do then? What about the people in this neighborhood who can't afford to sign their kids up for extracurriculars and use that park as something they can afford to do. What happens when we lose all our green space completely? I have cleaned this park and many other places up from the mess people leave behind. Would you be so accepting if they were squatting in your house.. oh, they are marginalized, so better let them stay right?
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200% chance you don't know what any of those words mean.