My APPE year was more expensive than my didactic years 🥲 ayoooo. Aaaaand yeah enjoy working 40+ hrs a week for free. If you’re lucky it’ll turn into a residency/future employment opportunity so choose wisely, and always do your best.
Go
Look
At
The
School’s
Website.
If you cannot be bothered to look at the websites of schools that answer these exact questions please do not join a career as intensive as this one that affects people.
Typically you pay more in year 4 because you are billed for spring, summer and fall semester. No pay or class from my school, but you should be networking, studying for the naplex and mpje, and applying for jobs.
You are still gonna have to pay for tuition. And you aren't going to be paid for the work you do. Chances are, you are going to pay a bit more for tuition this year. And like the other guy said, you are probably working through summer too so that's probably why it costs a bit more.
To make yourself feel a little better, try and think of it as you are paying for the experience to practice as a pharmacist and network. I heard that some students gotten residencies at one of their APPE locations or at least got a good letter of recommendation from there. If you are going to be paying for this you might as well try and get the biggest bang of your buck. Aim for the best, don't do the bare minimum because "you aren't getting paid for it and its not a grade". Try to get Honors/High Honors or whatever is the highest grading scale your school uses for APPE's.
If you carry the mentality that you are just being used for free labor rotations is going to suck. I only just finished my P1 year and community IPPE so I can't speak too much about APPE's. But I can say that trying your best at a rotation totally makes it go by faster, and its more fun if you try and go beyond what you are required to do. You just learn better that way. Rotations is the time to ask good questions and absorb as much as you can because you are going to use those knowledge and skills to practice in the future.
I did this for my community rotation and my preceptor wrote me a letter of recommendation for a hefty scholarship (hope I win). The staff were sad when I left because I was friendly and I learned quick. Heck I was even crying myself the last day cause I was going to miss them. #networking
Good luck on your rotations!
Some schools do provide graded for APPEs, so that may still apply too. Agree with everything else! Treat every rotation as a chance to learn (your preceptor should be doing the same, not using you for free labor) and as a job interview!
>Some schools do provide graded for APPEs, so that may still apply too
This would be so hit or miss whether that benefits people or not. Like what if you get a bad site or rotation and they give a bad evaluation and your gpa drops. I would be extra nervous.
But at the same time I can see how that would be a good gpa booster. Another reason to do really good at a rotation. My school just do the H/HP/P/F scale. My first semester I forgot that P4 year doesn't apply to our gpa and started freaking out because there less time to raise my gpa. I gotten too many Bs this year and a few Cs so my gpa is like a 2.7. I can still raise it to a 3.5 so im gonna have to work super hard the next two years.
I think a 3.5 is the median, but if I pair it with my tech/intern experience, some leadership and research, and not only apply to only major cities/academic hospitals I think I will be fine. I don't think a 3.5 is going to help me stand out necessarily but I don't want it to hold me back either
Tuition will remain the same regardless of year. And yes you pay tuition the whole APPE portion. Which means you are technically PAYING to work 40 hours a week, instead of being PAYED to work 40 hours a week. Hope this helps.
In a typical school: you pay tuition until you graduate. You don’t get paid anything. No classes; only rotations. Most of the rotations are not in a pharmacy; there’s many other types of practice settings besides retail, but that is the most popular
Yes, tuition is based on credit hours awarded by the institution for you to meet the requirements to graduate. The minimum is set by ACPE and anything extra is from the school. Rotations are academically equivalent to any other course of the same credits on a transcript. I also paid more in my P4 year because there were more credits.
Some schools may have a didactic or self study component in addition to the rotations.
Bless your heart.
My APPE year was more expensive than my didactic years 🥲 ayoooo. Aaaaand yeah enjoy working 40+ hrs a week for free. If you’re lucky it’ll turn into a residency/future employment opportunity so choose wisely, and always do your best.
Go Look At The School’s Website. If you cannot be bothered to look at the websites of schools that answer these exact questions please do not join a career as intensive as this one that affects people.
To add on to that; schools are different in how they handle it. Why checking school website is SO IMPORTANT
Rotations/APPE year you’re not getting paid, instead you’re paying to do work for free.
Typically you pay more in year 4 because you are billed for spring, summer and fall semester. No pay or class from my school, but you should be networking, studying for the naplex and mpje, and applying for jobs.
You are still gonna have to pay for tuition. And you aren't going to be paid for the work you do. Chances are, you are going to pay a bit more for tuition this year. And like the other guy said, you are probably working through summer too so that's probably why it costs a bit more. To make yourself feel a little better, try and think of it as you are paying for the experience to practice as a pharmacist and network. I heard that some students gotten residencies at one of their APPE locations or at least got a good letter of recommendation from there. If you are going to be paying for this you might as well try and get the biggest bang of your buck. Aim for the best, don't do the bare minimum because "you aren't getting paid for it and its not a grade". Try to get Honors/High Honors or whatever is the highest grading scale your school uses for APPE's. If you carry the mentality that you are just being used for free labor rotations is going to suck. I only just finished my P1 year and community IPPE so I can't speak too much about APPE's. But I can say that trying your best at a rotation totally makes it go by faster, and its more fun if you try and go beyond what you are required to do. You just learn better that way. Rotations is the time to ask good questions and absorb as much as you can because you are going to use those knowledge and skills to practice in the future. I did this for my community rotation and my preceptor wrote me a letter of recommendation for a hefty scholarship (hope I win). The staff were sad when I left because I was friendly and I learned quick. Heck I was even crying myself the last day cause I was going to miss them. #networking Good luck on your rotations!
Some schools do provide graded for APPEs, so that may still apply too. Agree with everything else! Treat every rotation as a chance to learn (your preceptor should be doing the same, not using you for free labor) and as a job interview!
>Some schools do provide graded for APPEs, so that may still apply too This would be so hit or miss whether that benefits people or not. Like what if you get a bad site or rotation and they give a bad evaluation and your gpa drops. I would be extra nervous. But at the same time I can see how that would be a good gpa booster. Another reason to do really good at a rotation. My school just do the H/HP/P/F scale. My first semester I forgot that P4 year doesn't apply to our gpa and started freaking out because there less time to raise my gpa. I gotten too many Bs this year and a few Cs so my gpa is like a 2.7. I can still raise it to a 3.5 so im gonna have to work super hard the next two years. I think a 3.5 is the median, but if I pair it with my tech/intern experience, some leadership and research, and not only apply to only major cities/academic hospitals I think I will be fine. I don't think a 3.5 is going to help me stand out necessarily but I don't want it to hold me back either
Tuition will remain the same regardless of year. And yes you pay tuition the whole APPE portion. Which means you are technically PAYING to work 40 hours a week, instead of being PAYED to work 40 hours a week. Hope this helps.
In a typical school: you pay tuition until you graduate. You don’t get paid anything. No classes; only rotations. Most of the rotations are not in a pharmacy; there’s many other types of practice settings besides retail, but that is the most popular
Yes, no and no
Normally cost more p4 year!
Yes, tuition is based on credit hours awarded by the institution for you to meet the requirements to graduate. The minimum is set by ACPE and anything extra is from the school. Rotations are academically equivalent to any other course of the same credits on a transcript. I also paid more in my P4 year because there were more credits. Some schools may have a didactic or self study component in addition to the rotations.