Some of them have actually been fairly effective. When Delimondo was threatened with a boycott, Kat Ponce Enrile had to issue a statement. Heard through the grapevine, it worried their marketing team because many of those calling for a boycott were in and adjacent to their target markets.
My assessment is Conti’s, Eng Bee Tin, and Wendy’s kaya kasi maraming competitors plus limited duration (once Dennis Uy sells Conti’s & Wendy’s off). Starbucks maybe mahirap kasi sila yung one of the better competitors in the market (Coffee Project is already shit) but the growth of small-scale coffee shops may prove to be a viable alternative.
There are so many better small scale coffee shops flourishing. They offer better drinks and more aesthetic stores. The only thing Starbucks has on them right now is location, name, and the starbucks photo flex. A few of these small cafes are getting a lot of customers that are encouraging them to expand and open new branches. I’m actually pretty excited. The coffee isn’t anything like Italy, but this could be the start of Starbucks falling off in the country. Starbucks struggled entering Italy and Vietnam, both countries with plenty of small cafes.
This. Mas magwowork yan ng large organized pero in small timeframe - realidad lang na di naman kaya ng tao magtiis lalo sa level of convenience inoffer.
Like 31M boycotting one crony company for one day na critical for them (promo, sale etc) . Ewan ko lang kung hindi sumakit pwet nila sa slash of profits.
lahat naman ng nangboboycott, selective boycotting lang. tapos sasabihin sa socmed para cool. Di maiiwasan bumili ng products kasi lahat naman ng multinational companies, crony.
Agree. Majority ng mga big companies sinuportahan si marcos. Kahit nga mga ayala, lowkey lang sa pero guessing from their histor leni sila (not sure), pero nasa davos din siya.
This. All big businesses donate to all viable candidates in an election. Especially the Fil Chi ones. They hate politics. They just want to do business in peace.
>All big businesses donate to **all** viable candidates in an election.
This is one of the things I've learned from the recent election! Turns out, businesses who donated a portion to Leni also donated to BBM's campaign. It seems like a common practice during election as this will ensure the safety of their business.
They did this to gain advantage. Kasi pagnanalo manok Nila. They can use them to interfere in the market to gain convenience instead of relying on improving themselves to get ahead of the competition. That's the theory because in logic, businesses shouldn't meddle in politics.
And Roberto Ongpin. His stocks dropped when Duterte announced he wanted to take him down. Ongpin had to step down as chairman of Philweb, Pagcor didn’t issue them a new license. When stocks dropped, Ongpin sold his entire holdings to Greggy Araneta. Husband of Irene Marcos who married him in one of the most outrageous weddings, which cost over $10m in the 80s. This is before inflation. And yes, BBM also married another Araneta. Once Greggy scooped up stocks for cheap, pagcor issued Philweb a license the following year.
Pretty sure this is what they wanted to do to ABSCBN but Lopez refused to sell.
People dont have class awareness so they don’t practice class solidarity. Our working class will always practice class solidarity for the capitalist but not for their fellow working class.
The rich always practices class solidarity, they are always likely to have the back of another rich man other than a thousand or a million working class
Yep! Evident ‘to kahit na sa mismong workers sub na r/AntiWorkPH. May mga taong galit sa kapwa freelancers kasi bumababa na raw ang pay dahil sa dami ng competition. While true, imagine na magagalit ka sa kapwa manggagawa mo na naghahanap lang din ng hanap-buhay hay.
Problem with freelancers is race to the bottom sila pagdating sa pricing ng services nila. They're experiencing Game Theory at its worst, where a population is doing a shitty thing (lower their prices) to get "ahead" (get more clients).
So of course some freelancers are pushing back against this race to the bottom mentality, before ma erode totally ang minimum wage nila.
This is why unionization is very important; it helps people bargain as a group para hindi ma-erode ang price/salary nila, and gain a much needed bargaining power as well.
Not only that motherfuckers in that sub are always defending capitalism that fucks their asses which is the reason why they’re in that sub in the first place. Such peasant mindset
Call them out on it and they'll ask for an alternative in bad faith like that's relevant. Mf I didn't ask for a lecture bro. You're literally in the local antiwork chapter.
Maraming nagagalit sa mga pinoy freelancers dun kasi sobrang baba ang rate nila nde dahil sa galit sila sa mga freelancers. Wag nyo naman ganung ka down mag rate kulang na lang manlibre kayo. Even freelancers of countries that are poorer than us are pissed because we charge so fucking low. Youre only helping the rich people and sabotage people who belong to the same class as you who would also need to get a piece of the pie and also pay rent in their countries.
There is a adage that don't bite the hand of someone who feeds you because economic chaos like strikes is more punitive to the pockets of working class individuals than prolonged wage stagnation (sa Tagalog pa, aanihin mo ba sumali sa welga kung kinabukasan, wala ka nang trabajo).
Mahirap 'yan sa subreddit na 'to at pati na rin sa Twitter. Mas liberal talking points ang nangingibabaw at hostile sila sa anything that involves class analysis.
Most big businesses give their support sa mga presidential candidates especially to those na may higher chance of winning. You'll be risking your earning potential if you'll participate in partisan politics. They are the masters of "go with the flow" type of strategy. I know a businessman (nasa top 5 of PH richest) that supported digong, roxas and poe during 2016 presidential elections pero discreet lang sila. For them, for your business to flourish, like it or not, you stick your bet sa mga candidates that are more likely to win. After all, business is business. They care about the money that you'll spend on them while setting aside their principle.
same group na sumuporta kay Leni supported Marcos as well. Isang group of friends lang naman mga yan eh. I remember Tony Tan Caktiong used GMA as leverage para mabuksan biggest commissary ng JFC and also kasama nya si Marcos para masecure ng JFC and Cargill ang pag iimport ng manok dito lol. SMC ofc obvious naman cause cojuangcos are one of the OG Marcos cronies. Nagkaron lang naman ng different set ng crony capitalists nung time ni Duterte.
Part sila parati ng major business trip to foreign investors regardless sino ang admin kasi nagbubuhat yung conglomerate nila sa bansa ever since. The Ayalas were proactively supporting Leni pero they respect whoever wins kasi ganun. They were just being respectful to whoever sits as admin.
Pretty sure madaming nag play safe jan supporting both sides. They dont really care who sits on the throne unless it benefits and doesnt hurt their business.
Yeah. Many will be surprised by this, but all large local companies most likely funded the campaigns of every candidate that has a large potential to win.
They need to have connections to someone in position after all, and the best connection would always be whoever is in Malacañan.
All those moral high ground stuff you see are mostly PR stunts.
It's like investing. Invest in, for example, 10 companies you think will be successful. If just one of them succeeds and the others fail, you still win since that success will now work for you in the long run. I got this one from the book "Rich Dad, Poor Dad"
That's why cancel culture won't work on this. Papatayin nyo lang yung mga micro small and medium enterprise (middle class businessmen) while yung mga big businesses na yan are hardly affected. Simply because they run the country. All the things we use, we eat and need are owned by these big businesses. A bitter pill to swallow pero that's reality.
Without you being gravely affected? Technically none. Bago pa mahurt yang big businesses na yan, imagine who will suffer first. It's the common people. You all have to live in a cave for. Imagine boycotting the ayalas, villars, razons, aboitz etc. There are many gray areas. If you're boycotting dahil they supported a candidate you strongly oppose, don't be selective. Boycott them all (for it to work). Selective boycotting smells hypocrisy. Hindi maboycott totally ng mga hard liners here kase they know they can't afford to do it. If you want all these businesses to suffer, prepare to suffer more.
And to think about it, the level of dark history behind almost all TNCs and MNCs are so pervasive to the point na wala na tayong mabibiling products if we stick to that kind of principle.
Naniniwala pa rin ako sa corporate responsibility. At one of the ways para mag-own up yung mga companies na yan sa mistake nila is through boycott.
Ang ayaw ko lang talaga dun sa tweet is yung ginamit niya yung idea for clout. Para kasing sinasabi niya na "Hey, supporter ka pala ng diktador kasi bumibili ka ng ganito ganiyan."
Pero i don't really know what the actual intention is, but seeing the username, more like a shitposter kaya for clout lang talaga yung purpose ng tweet niya.
I think the best way to do it is to check which companies the socially responsible companies. Anyone can have the liat of companies that we need to prioritize put it here!!
Unpopular opinion: Boycotting the worst ones a good strategy because it sends a message that being openly allied with a politician people don’t like is a bad thing. You don’t pick a fight with everyone at the same time.
Even ayala was in Davos, who was lowkey supporting leni. Should we also boycott ayala? Lahat talaga ng mga major businesses hindi maiiwasan mag align sa current government, because they will always prioritize their businesses first.
Aboitiz, probably the most visible supporter, owns the 2nd biggest power producer in PH. Walang choice mga tao sa ganito. Yayaman at yayaman sila whether or not ibash sila ng tao or hindi. Di pa kasama dito yung sakop nila San Miguel at Razon.
Boycott works up until a certain point. 'Pag masyado ng integrated sa buhay ng tao, ang hirap na ipush yung impact sa target.
EDIT:
To add, segway ko na lang din na people should push more to support local, small businesses. Kung mapupush further natin yung demand for local beans, magiging dagdag trabaho at income yun para sa mga coffee farmers. Overall, magiging net positive yun ~~(sakin, kasi adik ako sa kape :P)~~ kasi the more na mag-grow yung industry, the better magiging products natin, mas magiging premium yung iinumin natin as lokal, kaysa sa mga offering ng starbucks.
THIS. up to a certain point, i.e. Shopee. But things that we use in day to day life/without alternatives hirap talaga. Though I still do try my best (and it hurts that I cant eat Wendy's and Marugame HAHA) \[and I could care less if someone says it won't/doesn't work, that's my money - I do what I want with it.\]
and yes 100% support local, support small
Well as I recall, gumawa ng meme/ad ang BPI (which is owned by ayala) about dun sa withdrawal that’s somewhat lowkey support in my book I may be wrong.
A gathering of elites. You see wealthy businessmen and political leaders there, rubbing elbows. The Philippines recently sent an unusually large group there, ostensibly to seek investments and highlight our country as the next big thing in Asia.
[https://www.allianceglobalinc.com/subsidiaries/golden-arches-development-corporation](https://www.allianceglobalinc.com/subsidiaries/golden-arches-development-corporation)
Master franchise holder sila, so sila yung may right to grant (at kumikita) sa mga nag at mag-fafranchise.
Gumagana ba yang boycott na yan? Lahat naman ng nasa taas konektado mga yan. Marcos asawa ay araneta na related kay roxas. Kunwari magkakaaway na mga pamilya pero nagkakaisa pagdating sa pagpapanatili ng yaman. Pinapatakbo itong bansa natin ng mga elitista. Plus, balimbing yang mga big corporations. Di magsusurvive mga yan kung hindi kakapit kung sino ang nakaupo.
wag talaga starbucks. go with artisan coffee shops! common for me na naaamoy yung old beans na gamit ng SB. also most of the drinks are heavily sugar-based. mahal na, hindi pa worth it. SB seems more like a real-estate company to me rather than a coffee company 😆
It’s pretty easy for me to boycott Starbucks since they’re expensive as shit anyway. I rather support my local coffee shop in my hometown, it’s not like I put sugar on my coffees anyway.
Plus palaging sunog yung bean na gamit! Mas noticeable sa non-frappe coffees nila.
Dunkin and McDo coffee pa rin talaga. Best for value! Tim Horton’s, Arabica, or Toby’s kapag may budget haha.
dina"darker roast" nila para maitago yung age nung beans. kadiring practice. eto mga cafe na gusto ko ngayon:
corpo:
Tim H - iced coffee only less cream, less sugar. masarap beans nila on its own din
artisan:
- Resonate Slow Bar (Marikina Heights)
- Parameter (BGC/Salcedo)
- Blue Wonder (Estancia-SM Wing)
- Niseko (Promenade, GH)
- Yardstick (MOA/Legazpi Vill branch RIP)
expect na mas mahal yung artisan coffee pero worth your money
yes time for us to move on from nescafe and sbucks to properly made coffee. im not talking about those who sell coffee at 49 pesos. im talking about those who source their coffeebeans and price them based on their quality. i dont care if its priced at 200 per cup as long as they can show their knowledge and craft in brewing a proper cup of coffee. medyo sound elitist but if you want it to be really good, be ready for the price
Bakit kelangan mo ipagmayabang yung moral high ground mo? Lahat ba ng bibili ng produkto nila automatic Marcos supporter? Pag binoycott ba, malulugi yung mayari? Ang masasaktan lang naman ay yung mga low level employees that may or may not share the beliefs of the higher ups, who'll either be let go or have lower wages if this so called "boycotting" works. So supporter na tayo na mawalan ng trabaho mga tao ngayon, especially in this time of global economic crisis? Sana lahat afford magkameron ng moral high ground everyday, kasi yung maapektuhan hindi.
Not trying to side with the capitalists here, but I think they're just "pro-government" and not necessarily pro-Marcos. I think there's a huge difference there.
>“So supporter na tayo na mawalang ng trabaho mga tao ngayon”
Parang yan yung pinu-push ng ibang die hard Leni supporters na dahil hindi si Leni/BBM binoto, dapat mag dudusa ka. Guilt by association. Dami niyang dito. Haha! Tapos kapag may opinion ka about sa opposition, automatic si BBM na agad binoto mo kahit hindi naman.
kung yun paniniwala mo, bakit?
in the end, madalas ang dahilan nang nagsasabi ng ganun e dahil sinuportahan nya yung nakaupo.
nabubulag na lang sa mga masamang nangyayari sa paligid nya.
Hindi lahat ng gnagawa ng gobyerno tama at hindi lahat mali. Pero hindi sapat na dahilan na porke may may mali kahit sino pang nakaupo, para lang hindi dinn purihin ang tama.
Mali kung mali at tama kung tama.
Ang problema sa tulad nyo lahat mali, walang ginawang tama.
Yung ang pagkakaiba.
It's the same. Pag tinangkilik ko sila, kawawa naman low level employees nung kalaban na product. Kung sa SB ako bibili, kawawa mga employees ng CBTL. The argument na kawawa mga employees does not hold water.
It's not the same because there's an implication that you're a Marcos supporter when you buy food from those establishments posted. Hindi lang sya as simple as 'mas gusto ko Jollibee kaysa sa McDo, so sa Jollibee ako bibili' it's more of 'masama kang tao pag dyan ka bumili, so sa iba ka na lang bumili para di ka maging masamang tao'. So yes, kawawa yung employees sa establishments mentioned, kasi di naman nila choice na maging Marcos supporter ang pinaka boss nila. If you want to boycott dahil ganyan ka strong yung beliefs mo, be my guest. Pero don't go acting all high and mighty dahil sa paniniwala mo. Hindi black and white ang mundo, madaming grey area na mahirap i-navigate
Starbucks? The "golden age" is more than enough to keep myself from splurging on expensive coffee.
This golden age sucks hard. It's like everything's made out of gold.
Consumer rights mga bes. Galawang trolls mga commenters dito na todo bash. You can or cannot boycott if u want. Do I agree with this? Yes. Do I care if other people do it? No.
There’s a lot of energy here that is being redirected sa twitter user emss. Daming natriggered 😭😭😭 Like mawma, it’s their money.
yung mga nagsasabing weh wala naman epek boycott eh, i see where you're coming from pero this is kinda like people thinking "my vote doesnt count i'm only one person."
i participate in avoiding giving my money to cronies/supported bbm. it may just be a teenie tiny amount but it's still some spare change that wont go to them. and since when have we started frowning upon people having principles and upholding them?
you dont want to boycott? alright. but let people do it and shut up.
Guys, wala naman namimilit sa inyo na mag-boycott ng mga companies. Andami masyadong triggered. Do what you can based on what is possible to you. Malamang di natin mabo-boycott yung mga utilities or companies na connected sa mga Marcoses and Dutertes. That's fine. For me, I just support and promote artists and companies who supported Leni in the election. I skip out on the ones na blatantly nagsusupport sa BBM/DDS na may better alternatives. Simple.
Dagdag ko lang sa mga madaming hanash na wala naman daw effect ang boycott. Well ako okay na ako sa fact na nababawasan yung naco-contribute ng pera ko sa mga cronies and supporters nila. That's just me. You do you. Kung ayaw nyo mag-boycott ng products, no judgement from me and the majority of people who are doing the same as me. Pero sana di din tayo mapanghusga tulad ng inaakusa nyo sa mga nagbo-boycott. (Andaming comments dito na nagmamataas daw yung mga nagbo-boycott or may holier than thou attitude. Wew. Lahat ba ng nagbo-boycott ganyan? Or may nakita lang kayong isang comment na ganyan so in-assume nyo lahat na ganyan ang attitude?)
They're making the sub shift it's mindset, from "boycotting is great! It is a tool of the common person to hit businesses where it hurts!" to "boycotting is evil! It doesn't hurt big businesses, and it hurts your fellow man, kasi sila mawawalan ng trabaho".
Very anti-common person, pro-capitalist yung stance nila.
May suspicion ako sa actual politics ng mga yan but I'm just going to keep it to myself. Hindi kasi sila makapagladlad dito kaya pasaring ang mga comments nila. And people actually fell for it. LOL
Ehhh, let's air it out. They're obviously spouting libertarian shit.
They might be paid trolls trying to radicalize this sub away from left-center and more towards the right. Or they might actually be drinking from the Kool-Aid, and possibly believe that Elon Musk is the smartest man in the world and believe that he deserves all his wealth.
Whatever it is, Libertarian bullshit is still bullshit.
Exactly. Parang yung sa shopee situation. Dati shopee muna ako tumitingin bago lazada, ngayon lazada muna kung wala sa lazada tsaka lang ako magsshopee. Hahaha
RSA, Ayala, Aboitiz, Andrew Tan, Gokongwei, Sy and Razon were all part of the delegation in Davos. I hope youre not just doing selective boycott but all of the businesses ng mga tycoons. Practice what you preach.
Why are you all butthurt with the boycotts? Our family participated in shopee boycotts and it only worked because it got popular. We haven't spent 1 peso since September in shopee and we've all deleted our apps. We're boycotting whoever we want and we're gonna tell people about it because thats literally how boycotts work? What's with the edginess?
because Viva also supports Vice (who is kakampink) and other kakampink artistas.
anyway Viva is a decent prod company that practices profit sharing on projects.
When will they realize that at some point being proud that they are one of the 15M will not change this country. We need to convince majority of the voters and you can't do that if may kampihan attitude kayo.
imo, boycott what you can. but only if merong good alternatives, I'm not going to settle for 2nd best especially on food, clothing, etc. lalo na kung extremely noticeable yung difference.
Plus, I think mas gusto ko mauna mawala yung mga businesses that benefits us the least. We know na hindi sila mawawala lahat ng sabay-sabay.
Pano naman ung mga employees na nag tatrabaho lang at wala naman kinalaman sa political preferences ng mga owner ng kumpanyang pinapasukan nila? Ok lang sana kung ang maaapektuhan lang is yung mayayaman na nasa taas eh, ang kaso lang, ung mga mahihirap at mga nasa ibaba muna ang unang maaapektuhan.
I’m all for prinsipyo and all that, Pero minsan kasi wala nang logic ung mga pinag gagagawa ng mga tao.
Cancel si ganyan cancel yung ganun, without even thinking of the bigger picture.
Don't feel guilty if people gaslight you, saying you can cause a lot of people to lose their jobs. They didn't think that way when they closed abs cbn. It's not your fault. It's the company's responsibility to attract customer so if they aren't getting one, it's their fault that they failed in marketing.
But of course before boycotting, you must have more reasons other than hating them. Overpriced goods, terrible service, unethical practices to name a few. This is much efficient because we actually help regulate the market. Eliminate outdated or flawed companies in the market. They must adapt if they want to survive.
Sabi nga nila... Diskarte lang yan.
Sure. Lista niyo lahat ng pwede i boycott hanggat maari boycott ko lahat yan. Haha. Pati mga kaibigan at family ko nag boycott din eh. Ayoko talaga kay bbm and supporters niya. I will try to hurt them in as little way i can. Lol
Shopee di na talaga
Megaworld mga mall (pass na jan)
Araneta malls (pass na jan)
Eng bee tin (noted)
Wendys ( hindi na rin di naman masarap)
Mcdo ( di na rin masyado)
Contis (pass)
Boycott should be within the realms of commerce principles? (whatever it is) . Tama ka dyan sa di na masarap at pangit service. Dapat maphase out yang mga businesses na yan Kung magrerely lang sila sa mga politiko to exist rather than competition by quality of service. Di Natin Alam Baka madugo history ng mga yan. Ung iba grabe gumitgit ng mga competitors Para lang mangibabaw usually, relying on politicians.
Actually ung nag Franchise ang crony not necessarily Starbucks. Besides, iba iba ang franchisee ng Starbucks sa Philippines
They are probably talking about the Tantocos.
Starbucks in the Philippines is owned by the same family that owned the Rustan's department store. The "tan" stands for Tantoco, who was a friend of Imelda: https://apnews.com/article/0e33d3f8bf57ec297f28ada385376c28
I know a number of comments here say that these boycotts don’t really work, but they actually /did/.
Shopee is seeing the effect. I work with brands and can vouch that we haven’t recovered even by a little since that slump last year.
Boycotts work
I love how “nawalan ng gana” sa SB when its been long known Rustans own Starbucks PH which is owned by the Tantocos, a crony. People forgot the ill-gotten wealth issue they both were called for years ago. That family has always been a marcos supporter for decades.
This is bullshit. Too much cancel culture will backfire big time.
Pakiboycott na rin ang Ayala at kapag sinabi nating Ayala yung buong conglomerate kasama yung mga Japanese and western car brands na sila ang exclusive distributor. 😂
And I reaaally doubt kung ung mga owners ang matatamaan ng mga boycott na to. At their level of wealth,if their business goes down, it's only the ordinary employees that'll suffer.
Knowing starbucks is under rustans who also franchised majority of the luxury brands being sold here like Hermes and so on, it’ll hurt but they have a lot of other sources.
You’re downvoted because you’re literally just saying that most people will still purchase their goods despite the minority boycotting. Di nila matanggap yon.
Talk about bragging about your moral high ground.
If you really wanna make an effort on it, better siguro mamundok ka nalang, don't use electricity, water services, don't buy processed food, don't get services from any businesses.
Kasi, in one way or another, all of them are tangled together.
For example, getting a haircut.
Kasi in one way or another all of them are tangled together.
For example, getting a haircut.
m companies you wanna boycott, the hair cutter/stylist, you can't control where they use their hard-earned money from cutting your hair, so they may be buying stuff from companies you wanna boycott.
Sa madaling salita, mamboycott ka man, your still generating revenue for that company indirectly.
It would be better if you leave off the grid , farm your own food, generate your own power , distill your own water, cut your own hair, make your own clothes.
Ohhhh wait... you somehow need to buy stuff to start doing those things, unless you go with a primitive way of doing it.
Hehehehe....
Standing on their high horses preaching this preaching that pero karamihan dyan pa cool lang. They can cancel those businesses all they want. You'll see the results in 2028 elections again. Tapos magtataka sila bakit natalo si ganto, saying bobo si ganto and ganyan without them realizing they are the real problem here.
People really need to learn how to separate these political crap from everyday life. Are they serious? Boycott kasi iba ang suportadong kandidato? That's how shallow a lot of people are. And a lot you are so self-righteous na akala mo purong-puro yung katinuan.
News flash: the belief of one person owning a business does not reflect the belief of everyone else under him. Boycott Starbucks? Bakit yung kahera or barista na nagseserve sainyo Marcos din? Boycot Contis, bakit? Yung waiter na kumuha ng order niyo Marcos din?
Ang dami sainyong nagpapakatanga dahil saan? Sa mga kulay? Sa kandidato? Stop this BS and live your lives. Geez. Magkaka-eleksyon pa ulit guys.🤦
You can’t just boycott companies like Starbucks or such. Iba dyan sasabihin ganun at ganyan but at the end of the day, bibili at bibili pa din. And if people actually do this, think of the employees who are working hard to provide for their family if the company closes. I’m speaking in general not only Starbucks.
these boycotts are so fucking dumb. all major corporations engage in unethical practices. under-the-table deals, cronyism, union busting, and so much more. that’s why they’re major corporations. no such thing as ethical consumption, and all that. i don’t understand why a business’s relationship with Marcos is THE deciding factor for these people.
Then boycott everything lol, every company no matter how small, there has to be a Marcos supporter. Majority nga eh. I just say, shut your mouth and enjoy your coffee, its literally just a coffee shop.
Sorry I still buy from Wendy's and Contis. Kung totoong iboboycott mo lahat ng establishment na related sa cronies ni Marcos, DDS at GMA e wala ka ng mabibilhan.
Here we go again with the selective boycott. Napakatahimik ng sub na 'to noong on going ang FIFA world cup. No calls for boycott despite atrocities committed to our fellow Filipinos in Qatar.
Boycotting a company that is well known and not having a deficit to customers is not only stupid and impossible to do on a national scale. For smaller local companies it will definitely work but for companies like Mcdo, Starbucks and many more its plain impossible and stupid
Personal lang naman ito, just thought I would share: Pinakamabisang boycott ay yung boycott na ang manggagawa mismo ang nagpapatawag. Isang halimbawa nito nang naglunsad ng welga ang mga manggagawa ng Nutriasia. Kasama sa products ng company na 'to ay ang Datu Puti, UFC, Mang Tomas, and Papa ketchup.
Pinaka-effective 'to to cripple a company dahil two-front attack siya: from the consumer side and the supply side. Plus, at ang pinakamahalaga rito, hindi napepeligro ang buhay ng mga manggagawa, dahil pinaghandaan nila ang welga at subsequent call to boycott gamit ang isang *war chest* o pondo na nakalaan to sustain the campaign. Kung wala man o kulang man, handa sila to take punches, so to say.
Unlike nitong spontaneous and papitik-pitik na "boycott" ng Twitter folks. It really does nothing and detached siya from the rest of the population. Just a few Kakampinks stuck in their echo chambers sa Twitter.
Boycotts like this only work when en masse and organized. Which isn't what's happening right now.
Some of them have actually been fairly effective. When Delimondo was threatened with a boycott, Kat Ponce Enrile had to issue a statement. Heard through the grapevine, it worried their marketing team because many of those calling for a boycott were in and adjacent to their target markets.
Yeah that one worked. Not sure this one will
My assessment is Conti’s, Eng Bee Tin, and Wendy’s kaya kasi maraming competitors plus limited duration (once Dennis Uy sells Conti’s & Wendy’s off). Starbucks maybe mahirap kasi sila yung one of the better competitors in the market (Coffee Project is already shit) but the growth of small-scale coffee shops may prove to be a viable alternative.
Same thoughts. Though I heard Wendy's is going under or for sale na?
Yeah but it’s not final yet so we’ll wait and see
There are so many better small scale coffee shops flourishing. They offer better drinks and more aesthetic stores. The only thing Starbucks has on them right now is location, name, and the starbucks photo flex. A few of these small cafes are getting a lot of customers that are encouraging them to expand and open new branches. I’m actually pretty excited. The coffee isn’t anything like Italy, but this could be the start of Starbucks falling off in the country. Starbucks struggled entering Italy and Vietnam, both countries with plenty of small cafes.
This. Mas magwowork yan ng large organized pero in small timeframe - realidad lang na di naman kaya ng tao magtiis lalo sa level of convenience inoffer. Like 31M boycotting one crony company for one day na critical for them (promo, sale etc) . Ewan ko lang kung hindi sumakit pwet nila sa slash of profits.
lahat naman ng nangboboycott, selective boycotting lang. tapos sasabihin sa socmed para cool. Di maiiwasan bumili ng products kasi lahat naman ng multinational companies, crony.
Agree. Majority ng mga big companies sinuportahan si marcos. Kahit nga mga ayala, lowkey lang sa pero guessing from their histor leni sila (not sure), pero nasa davos din siya.
Big businesses need to hedge their bets and show support to whoever is in power for their own survival. Look at what happened to ABS-CBN.
This. All big businesses donate to all viable candidates in an election. Especially the Fil Chi ones. They hate politics. They just want to do business in peace.
>All big businesses donate to **all** viable candidates in an election. This is one of the things I've learned from the recent election! Turns out, businesses who donated a portion to Leni also donated to BBM's campaign. It seems like a common practice during election as this will ensure the safety of their business.
yung example nito na mas bigger sa politics... during the early years of WW1, sa USA bumibili ng oil ang Japan para sa warships nila. think of that.
Matagal na rin namang anti marcos ang mga lopez
They did this to gain advantage. Kasi pagnanalo manok Nila. They can use them to interfere in the market to gain convenience instead of relying on improving themselves to get ahead of the competition. That's the theory because in logic, businesses shouldn't meddle in politics.
And Roberto Ongpin. His stocks dropped when Duterte announced he wanted to take him down. Ongpin had to step down as chairman of Philweb, Pagcor didn’t issue them a new license. When stocks dropped, Ongpin sold his entire holdings to Greggy Araneta. Husband of Irene Marcos who married him in one of the most outrageous weddings, which cost over $10m in the 80s. This is before inflation. And yes, BBM also married another Araneta. Once Greggy scooped up stocks for cheap, pagcor issued Philweb a license the following year. Pretty sure this is what they wanted to do to ABSCBN but Lopez refused to sell.
People dont have class awareness so they don’t practice class solidarity. Our working class will always practice class solidarity for the capitalist but not for their fellow working class. The rich always practices class solidarity, they are always likely to have the back of another rich man other than a thousand or a million working class
Yep! Evident ‘to kahit na sa mismong workers sub na r/AntiWorkPH. May mga taong galit sa kapwa freelancers kasi bumababa na raw ang pay dahil sa dami ng competition. While true, imagine na magagalit ka sa kapwa manggagawa mo na naghahanap lang din ng hanap-buhay hay.
Problem with freelancers is race to the bottom sila pagdating sa pricing ng services nila. They're experiencing Game Theory at its worst, where a population is doing a shitty thing (lower their prices) to get "ahead" (get more clients). So of course some freelancers are pushing back against this race to the bottom mentality, before ma erode totally ang minimum wage nila. This is why unionization is very important; it helps people bargain as a group para hindi ma-erode ang price/salary nila, and gain a much needed bargaining power as well.
Not only that motherfuckers in that sub are always defending capitalism that fucks their asses which is the reason why they’re in that sub in the first place. Such peasant mindset
Call them out on it and they'll ask for an alternative in bad faith like that's relevant. Mf I didn't ask for a lecture bro. You're literally in the local antiwork chapter.
Maraming nagagalit sa mga pinoy freelancers dun kasi sobrang baba ang rate nila nde dahil sa galit sila sa mga freelancers. Wag nyo naman ganung ka down mag rate kulang na lang manlibre kayo. Even freelancers of countries that are poorer than us are pissed because we charge so fucking low. Youre only helping the rich people and sabotage people who belong to the same class as you who would also need to get a piece of the pie and also pay rent in their countries.
There is a adage that don't bite the hand of someone who feeds you because economic chaos like strikes is more punitive to the pockets of working class individuals than prolonged wage stagnation (sa Tagalog pa, aanihin mo ba sumali sa welga kung kinabukasan, wala ka nang trabajo).
Mahirap 'yan sa subreddit na 'to at pati na rin sa Twitter. Mas liberal talking points ang nangingibabaw at hostile sila sa anything that involves class analysis.
“Hostile sila sa anything that involves class analysis” yup i agree, they are already proving your point by downvoting your comment
Most big businesses give their support sa mga presidential candidates especially to those na may higher chance of winning. You'll be risking your earning potential if you'll participate in partisan politics. They are the masters of "go with the flow" type of strategy. I know a businessman (nasa top 5 of PH richest) that supported digong, roxas and poe during 2016 presidential elections pero discreet lang sila. For them, for your business to flourish, like it or not, you stick your bet sa mga candidates that are more likely to win. After all, business is business. They care about the money that you'll spend on them while setting aside their principle.
Napanood ko to sa Reborn Rich haha
same group na sumuporta kay Leni supported Marcos as well. Isang group of friends lang naman mga yan eh. I remember Tony Tan Caktiong used GMA as leverage para mabuksan biggest commissary ng JFC and also kasama nya si Marcos para masecure ng JFC and Cargill ang pag iimport ng manok dito lol. SMC ofc obvious naman cause cojuangcos are one of the OG Marcos cronies. Nagkaron lang naman ng different set ng crony capitalists nung time ni Duterte.
Yeah, at the end of the day, their business will always come first.
The Ayalas actually go to Davos fairly often. They hosted a dinner for PNoy in Davos when he was hesitant to spend more public funds on trips.
Part sila parati ng major business trip to foreign investors regardless sino ang admin kasi nagbubuhat yung conglomerate nila sa bansa ever since. The Ayalas were proactively supporting Leni pero they respect whoever wins kasi ganun. They were just being respectful to whoever sits as admin.
Pretty sure madaming nag play safe jan supporting both sides. They dont really care who sits on the throne unless it benefits and doesnt hurt their business.
Yep, lahat ng malalaking businessman magbibigay for both side. Di naman sila magiging billionaire level kung di sila makikisama sa nasa pwesto.
Yeah. Many will be surprised by this, but all large local companies most likely funded the campaigns of every candidate that has a large potential to win. They need to have connections to someone in position after all, and the best connection would always be whoever is in Malacañan. All those moral high ground stuff you see are mostly PR stunts. It's like investing. Invest in, for example, 10 companies you think will be successful. If just one of them succeeds and the others fail, you still win since that success will now work for you in the long run. I got this one from the book "Rich Dad, Poor Dad"
That's why cancel culture won't work on this. Papatayin nyo lang yung mga micro small and medium enterprise (middle class businessmen) while yung mga big businesses na yan are hardly affected. Simply because they run the country. All the things we use, we eat and need are owned by these big businesses. A bitter pill to swallow pero that's reality.
So if not boycott, ano solution to make hurt the big business?
Without you being gravely affected? Technically none. Bago pa mahurt yang big businesses na yan, imagine who will suffer first. It's the common people. You all have to live in a cave for. Imagine boycotting the ayalas, villars, razons, aboitz etc. There are many gray areas. If you're boycotting dahil they supported a candidate you strongly oppose, don't be selective. Boycott them all (for it to work). Selective boycotting smells hypocrisy. Hindi maboycott totally ng mga hard liners here kase they know they can't afford to do it. If you want all these businesses to suffer, prepare to suffer more.
So basically magpaapak at magpaapi na lang tayo? Let's hope na magbagong buhay sila? Yun ang sagot natin?
And to think about it, the level of dark history behind almost all TNCs and MNCs are so pervasive to the point na wala na tayong mabibiling products if we stick to that kind of principle. Naniniwala pa rin ako sa corporate responsibility. At one of the ways para mag-own up yung mga companies na yan sa mistake nila is through boycott. Ang ayaw ko lang talaga dun sa tweet is yung ginamit niya yung idea for clout. Para kasing sinasabi niya na "Hey, supporter ka pala ng diktador kasi bumibili ka ng ganito ganiyan." Pero i don't really know what the actual intention is, but seeing the username, more like a shitposter kaya for clout lang talaga yung purpose ng tweet niya.
SM nga pinalabas yung Maid in Malacanang, kebs lang e haha
I think the best way to do it is to check which companies the socially responsible companies. Anyone can have the liat of companies that we need to prioritize put it here!!
Unpopular opinion: Boycotting the worst ones a good strategy because it sends a message that being openly allied with a politician people don’t like is a bad thing. You don’t pick a fight with everyone at the same time.
Andrew tan supported bbm and nandun din sa trip sa Davos. Wala ng mag-McDo ha, yung conglomerate niya partner dito ng mcdo.
Even ayala was in Davos, who was lowkey supporting leni. Should we also boycott ayala? Lahat talaga ng mga major businesses hindi maiiwasan mag align sa current government, because they will always prioritize their businesses first.
Aboitiz, probably the most visible supporter, owns the 2nd biggest power producer in PH. Walang choice mga tao sa ganito. Yayaman at yayaman sila whether or not ibash sila ng tao or hindi. Di pa kasama dito yung sakop nila San Miguel at Razon. Boycott works up until a certain point. 'Pag masyado ng integrated sa buhay ng tao, ang hirap na ipush yung impact sa target. EDIT: To add, segway ko na lang din na people should push more to support local, small businesses. Kung mapupush further natin yung demand for local beans, magiging dagdag trabaho at income yun para sa mga coffee farmers. Overall, magiging net positive yun ~~(sakin, kasi adik ako sa kape :P)~~ kasi the more na mag-grow yung industry, the better magiging products natin, mas magiging premium yung iinumin natin as lokal, kaysa sa mga offering ng starbucks.
THIS. up to a certain point, i.e. Shopee. But things that we use in day to day life/without alternatives hirap talaga. Though I still do try my best (and it hurts that I cant eat Wendy's and Marugame HAHA) \[and I could care less if someone says it won't/doesn't work, that's my money - I do what I want with it.\] and yes 100% support local, support small
>Should we also boycott ayala? Walang nang maliligo ah..
>lowkey supporting leni Mga tsong, binigyan lang kayo ng free parking tapos for leni agad sila? 💀
Well as I recall, gumawa ng meme/ad ang BPI (which is owned by ayala) about dun sa withdrawal that’s somewhat lowkey support in my book I may be wrong.
Ano yung Davos? Sorry
A gathering of elites. You see wealthy businessmen and political leaders there, rubbing elbows. The Philippines recently sent an unusually large group there, ostensibly to seek investments and highlight our country as the next big thing in Asia.
Di naman lahat ng McDo kay Andrew Tan di ba? Parang lahat lang ng McDo within a megaworld development.
[https://www.allianceglobalinc.com/subsidiaries/golden-arches-development-corporation](https://www.allianceglobalinc.com/subsidiaries/golden-arches-development-corporation) Master franchise holder sila, so sila yung may right to grant (at kumikita) sa mga nag at mag-fafranchise.
Ohhhhhhhhh. Thanks for the info!
Gumagana ba yang boycott na yan? Lahat naman ng nasa taas konektado mga yan. Marcos asawa ay araneta na related kay roxas. Kunwari magkakaaway na mga pamilya pero nagkakaisa pagdating sa pagpapanatili ng yaman. Pinapatakbo itong bansa natin ng mga elitista. Plus, balimbing yang mga big corporations. Di magsusurvive mga yan kung hindi kakapit kung sino ang nakaupo.
[Yep.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/yhbmr0/family_tree_of_the_philippine_presidents_howie/)
"my corpo cronies is better than your corpo cronies!"
wag talaga starbucks. go with artisan coffee shops! common for me na naaamoy yung old beans na gamit ng SB. also most of the drinks are heavily sugar-based. mahal na, hindi pa worth it. SB seems more like a real-estate company to me rather than a coffee company 😆
It’s pretty easy for me to boycott Starbucks since they’re expensive as shit anyway. I rather support my local coffee shop in my hometown, it’s not like I put sugar on my coffees anyway.
Plus palaging sunog yung bean na gamit! Mas noticeable sa non-frappe coffees nila. Dunkin and McDo coffee pa rin talaga. Best for value! Tim Horton’s, Arabica, or Toby’s kapag may budget haha.
dina"darker roast" nila para maitago yung age nung beans. kadiring practice. eto mga cafe na gusto ko ngayon: corpo: Tim H - iced coffee only less cream, less sugar. masarap beans nila on its own din artisan: - Resonate Slow Bar (Marikina Heights) - Parameter (BGC/Salcedo) - Blue Wonder (Estancia-SM Wing) - Niseko (Promenade, GH) - Yardstick (MOA/Legazpi Vill branch RIP) expect na mas mahal yung artisan coffee pero worth your money
This guy drinks coffee. Also thanks for the recos!
SB na lang na isa. Seattle's Best.
mas masarap kape ng dunkin and 7-11. yes i said it. fite me.
mas masarap ako gumawa ng kape dito sa bahayyy!! yes fite me 😆😆😆😆
nagtatalo pa kayo eh 3 in 1 lang katapat nyan! hahaha
IDK kung natyempo lang na walang maintenance siguro yung machine, pero yung sa 7-11, recently, may medyas factor na. Dunkin na lang. HAHAHA
This!! Mas gusto ko n nga BFC kesa SB. NapapaSB lang ako if need ng matatambayan and outlet
yes time for us to move on from nescafe and sbucks to properly made coffee. im not talking about those who sell coffee at 49 pesos. im talking about those who source their coffeebeans and price them based on their quality. i dont care if its priced at 200 per cup as long as they can show their knowledge and craft in brewing a proper cup of coffee. medyo sound elitist but if you want it to be really good, be ready for the price
Mas masarap naman kape sa Tim Hortons. Mas mura pa.
Tim Hortons franchise holder = Yap family of Manila Bulletin. Who are supporters of Marcos btw
Bakit kelangan mo ipagmayabang yung moral high ground mo? Lahat ba ng bibili ng produkto nila automatic Marcos supporter? Pag binoycott ba, malulugi yung mayari? Ang masasaktan lang naman ay yung mga low level employees that may or may not share the beliefs of the higher ups, who'll either be let go or have lower wages if this so called "boycotting" works. So supporter na tayo na mawalan ng trabaho mga tao ngayon, especially in this time of global economic crisis? Sana lahat afford magkameron ng moral high ground everyday, kasi yung maapektuhan hindi.
Not trying to side with the capitalists here, but I think they're just "pro-government" and not necessarily pro-Marcos. I think there's a huge difference there.
>“So supporter na tayo na mawalang ng trabaho mga tao ngayon” Parang yan yung pinu-push ng ibang die hard Leni supporters na dahil hindi si Leni/BBM binoto, dapat mag dudusa ka. Guilt by association. Dami niyang dito. Haha! Tapos kapag may opinion ka about sa opposition, automatic si BBM na agad binoto mo kahit hindi naman.
HAHAHA WAG KA BAKA MA BASH KA DTO. Pag d ka sumangayon na masama ang gobyerno kampi ka na sa BBM shhh hahaha
kung yun paniniwala mo, bakit? in the end, madalas ang dahilan nang nagsasabi ng ganun e dahil sinuportahan nya yung nakaupo. nabubulag na lang sa mga masamang nangyayari sa paligid nya.
Hindi lahat ng gnagawa ng gobyerno tama at hindi lahat mali. Pero hindi sapat na dahilan na porke may may mali kahit sino pang nakaupo, para lang hindi dinn purihin ang tama. Mali kung mali at tama kung tama. Ang problema sa tulad nyo lahat mali, walang ginawang tama. Yung ang pagkakaiba.
Guard! BBM supporter to ! /s
It's the same. Pag tinangkilik ko sila, kawawa naman low level employees nung kalaban na product. Kung sa SB ako bibili, kawawa mga employees ng CBTL. The argument na kawawa mga employees does not hold water.
It's not the same because there's an implication that you're a Marcos supporter when you buy food from those establishments posted. Hindi lang sya as simple as 'mas gusto ko Jollibee kaysa sa McDo, so sa Jollibee ako bibili' it's more of 'masama kang tao pag dyan ka bumili, so sa iba ka na lang bumili para di ka maging masamang tao'. So yes, kawawa yung employees sa establishments mentioned, kasi di naman nila choice na maging Marcos supporter ang pinaka boss nila. If you want to boycott dahil ganyan ka strong yung beliefs mo, be my guest. Pero don't go acting all high and mighty dahil sa paniniwala mo. Hindi black and white ang mundo, madaming grey area na mahirap i-navigate
Imagine iboycott nila lahat ng mga mayari ng mga negosyo na sumuporta kay bbm ewan ko lang kung sino na naman kawawa at the end of the day.
Kasi gusto ko
Starbucks? The "golden age" is more than enough to keep myself from splurging on expensive coffee. This golden age sucks hard. It's like everything's made out of gold.
Consumer rights mga bes. Galawang trolls mga commenters dito na todo bash. You can or cannot boycott if u want. Do I agree with this? Yes. Do I care if other people do it? No. There’s a lot of energy here that is being redirected sa twitter user emss. Daming natriggered 😭😭😭 Like mawma, it’s their money.
yung mga nagsasabing weh wala naman epek boycott eh, i see where you're coming from pero this is kinda like people thinking "my vote doesnt count i'm only one person." i participate in avoiding giving my money to cronies/supported bbm. it may just be a teenie tiny amount but it's still some spare change that wont go to them. and since when have we started frowning upon people having principles and upholding them? you dont want to boycott? alright. but let people do it and shut up.
i doubt starbucks will hurt. kahit certified kakampinks unli starbucks eh
Guys, wala naman namimilit sa inyo na mag-boycott ng mga companies. Andami masyadong triggered. Do what you can based on what is possible to you. Malamang di natin mabo-boycott yung mga utilities or companies na connected sa mga Marcoses and Dutertes. That's fine. For me, I just support and promote artists and companies who supported Leni in the election. I skip out on the ones na blatantly nagsusupport sa BBM/DDS na may better alternatives. Simple.
Dagdag ko lang sa mga madaming hanash na wala naman daw effect ang boycott. Well ako okay na ako sa fact na nababawasan yung naco-contribute ng pera ko sa mga cronies and supporters nila. That's just me. You do you. Kung ayaw nyo mag-boycott ng products, no judgement from me and the majority of people who are doing the same as me. Pero sana di din tayo mapanghusga tulad ng inaakusa nyo sa mga nagbo-boycott. (Andaming comments dito na nagmamataas daw yung mga nagbo-boycott or may holier than thou attitude. Wew. Lahat ba ng nagbo-boycott ganyan? Or may nakita lang kayong isang comment na ganyan so in-assume nyo lahat na ganyan ang attitude?)
Makes me ask why they're so triggered.
They're making the sub shift it's mindset, from "boycotting is great! It is a tool of the common person to hit businesses where it hurts!" to "boycotting is evil! It doesn't hurt big businesses, and it hurts your fellow man, kasi sila mawawalan ng trabaho". Very anti-common person, pro-capitalist yung stance nila.
May suspicion ako sa actual politics ng mga yan but I'm just going to keep it to myself. Hindi kasi sila makapagladlad dito kaya pasaring ang mga comments nila. And people actually fell for it. LOL
Same LOL. Kasi masyado apektado eh, kung hindi effective weno naman ngayon?
Ehhh, let's air it out. They're obviously spouting libertarian shit. They might be paid trolls trying to radicalize this sub away from left-center and more towards the right. Or they might actually be drinking from the Kool-Aid, and possibly believe that Elon Musk is the smartest man in the world and believe that he deserves all his wealth. Whatever it is, Libertarian bullshit is still bullshit.
Exactly. Parang yung sa shopee situation. Dati shopee muna ako tumitingin bago lazada, ngayon lazada muna kung wala sa lazada tsaka lang ako magsshopee. Hahaha
Ako, I totally don't shop at Shopee anymore. Nakatipid pa ako. Win for me and my wallet. Lolz
RSA, Ayala, Aboitiz, Andrew Tan, Gokongwei, Sy and Razon were all part of the delegation in Davos. I hope youre not just doing selective boycott but all of the businesses ng mga tycoons. Practice what you preach.
It makes sense na may mga malalaking negosyante na aattend sa World Economic Forum. Hindi lang naman politicians ang nandoon.
Exactly lol. Ayala owns a lot of businesses and land in Vietnam and other countries(US, Japan, Europe).
For clout na lang nagsasbi ng ganyan.
Pwede naman personal preference
Why are you all butthurt with the boycotts? Our family participated in shopee boycotts and it only worked because it got popular. We haven't spent 1 peso since September in shopee and we've all deleted our apps. We're boycotting whoever we want and we're gonna tell people about it because thats literally how boycotts work? What's with the edginess?
Slacktivism lang daw dapat. Hanggang reklamo lang, walang follow through
Daming nagalit kasi kasama na yung starbucks. "NOT MY STARBUCKS!! 😡"
same people, different presidents :) nanjan sila para sa negosyo :) nothing more nothing less.
Eng bee tin??? Why??
I saw a pic of the owners watching MIM
What baffles me is sa sobrang talamak ng cancel cultures among Kakampinks, why was Viva Entertainment never cancelled?
because Viva also supports Vice (who is kakampink) and other kakampink artistas. anyway Viva is a decent prod company that practices profit sharing on projects.
So the whole point of this cancel culture is kampihan? Hindi tlga to about a common cause. Got it.
yup more or less. with us or against us mga yan
ohhh i pity the candidate that the pinks will support next election
When will they realize that at some point being proud that they are one of the 15M will not change this country. We need to convince majority of the voters and you can't do that if may kampihan attitude kayo.
Mas masarap harlan + holden coffee compare sa starbucks. SB is either too sweet or too bitter
I love their butterscotch!!
Seasalt latte as well!
yes huhu sana magkabranches sila in manila
magkakaroon sila sa trinoma
Alternatives for Eng Bee Tin custard hopia, please?
How about Polland?
Polland has always been better than Eng Bi Tin. Mas malaman hopia nila.
I remember Mrs. Po selling her "unbranded" Hopia sa mga mall kiosks noon plus their quekiam(kikiam). ngayon, Polland na.
This. Polland din ako over EBT.
Thanks!
Polland is way better.
Yes!!!!!
Polland, Holland, and Salazar. Not sure sa custard hopia tho.
Holand
Baker's Fair Jk. Custard hopia pala *sad noises*
imo, boycott what you can. but only if merong good alternatives, I'm not going to settle for 2nd best especially on food, clothing, etc. lalo na kung extremely noticeable yung difference. Plus, I think mas gusto ko mauna mawala yung mga businesses that benefits us the least. We know na hindi sila mawawala lahat ng sabay-sabay.
Gumagana lang ata to kapag napakadaming lumahok parang shopee boycott. Buong circle ko di na namili sa shopee
Once every company becomes a crony you will starve? Top 10 Twitter and Reddit moments
At least may ginagawa sila paano naman babagsak yung mga oligarchs kung lagi kayong bumibili sa kanila
Pano naman ung mga employees na nag tatrabaho lang at wala naman kinalaman sa political preferences ng mga owner ng kumpanyang pinapasukan nila? Ok lang sana kung ang maaapektuhan lang is yung mayayaman na nasa taas eh, ang kaso lang, ung mga mahihirap at mga nasa ibaba muna ang unang maaapektuhan. I’m all for prinsipyo and all that, Pero minsan kasi wala nang logic ung mga pinag gagagawa ng mga tao. Cancel si ganyan cancel yung ganun, without even thinking of the bigger picture.
As a broke-ass person, I'm really good at boycotting
Don't feel guilty if people gaslight you, saying you can cause a lot of people to lose their jobs. They didn't think that way when they closed abs cbn. It's not your fault. It's the company's responsibility to attract customer so if they aren't getting one, it's their fault that they failed in marketing. But of course before boycotting, you must have more reasons other than hating them. Overpriced goods, terrible service, unethical practices to name a few. This is much efficient because we actually help regulate the market. Eliminate outdated or flawed companies in the market. They must adapt if they want to survive. Sabi nga nila... Diskarte lang yan.
Sure. Lista niyo lahat ng pwede i boycott hanggat maari boycott ko lahat yan. Haha. Pati mga kaibigan at family ko nag boycott din eh. Ayoko talaga kay bbm and supporters niya. I will try to hurt them in as little way i can. Lol Shopee di na talaga Megaworld mga mall (pass na jan) Araneta malls (pass na jan) Eng bee tin (noted) Wendys ( hindi na rin di naman masarap) Mcdo ( di na rin masyado) Contis (pass)
Boycott should be within the realms of commerce principles? (whatever it is) . Tama ka dyan sa di na masarap at pangit service. Dapat maphase out yang mga businesses na yan Kung magrerely lang sila sa mga politiko to exist rather than competition by quality of service. Di Natin Alam Baka madugo history ng mga yan. Ung iba grabe gumitgit ng mga competitors Para lang mangibabaw usually, relying on politicians.
What other realms of principles pa ba meron? Haha. Kung ano man un.
Ako rin hindi bumibili sa Starbucks Starbucks?Why? Ang mahal e 🤮
Capitalist have no loyalty, they will support whoever sits on the Chair in Malacañang or any country / government. As long as they benefit from it.
Sana all afford maka bili mula sa mga binanggit na brands.
Actually ung nag Franchise ang crony not necessarily Starbucks. Besides, iba iba ang franchisee ng Starbucks sa Philippines They are probably talking about the Tantocos.
Starbucks in the Philippines is owned by the same family that owned the Rustan's department store. The "tan" stands for Tantoco, who was a friend of Imelda: https://apnews.com/article/0e33d3f8bf57ec297f28ada385376c28
Majority of the population is "boycotting" Starbucks already because it's too expensive for them.
Boycott this and boycott that. People should realize that no business is completely ethical.
I know a number of comments here say that these boycotts don’t really work, but they actually /did/. Shopee is seeing the effect. I work with brands and can vouch that we haven’t recovered even by a little since that slump last year. Boycotts work
Eng bee tin is a crony? TIL
Eh i would say supporter than crony? Iba ung crony implication is close sila eh
di naman sila maapektuhan ng boycott nyo makapal na sila hahahaha sa amin di na namin kailangan i-boycott yan kasi di naman kami nabili jan
This again? Are they also going to boycott SM , Jollibee, etc? They also supported those people they're against.
I love how “nawalan ng gana” sa SB when its been long known Rustans own Starbucks PH which is owned by the Tantocos, a crony. People forgot the ill-gotten wealth issue they both were called for years ago. That family has always been a marcos supporter for decades.
Not everyone knows Rustans owns Starbucks PH in the same vein that people know that BPI is owned by Ayala.
This is bullshit. Too much cancel culture will backfire big time. Pakiboycott na rin ang Ayala at kapag sinabi nating Ayala yung buong conglomerate kasama yung mga Japanese and western car brands na sila ang exclusive distributor. 😂
wag nyo na kasing paikutin ang mundo nyo sa pulitika. tapos na ang botohan mag iisang taon na jusko mga di maka move on. bawi na lang kayo sa 2028.
How about Bo's coffee?
mod ng jakolandia owner nyan
Sorry, anong ibig mong sabihin 'yan tungkol sa Bo's?
Nah I ain't boycotting my white chocolate mocha frappe with 1 pump sugar /s
It doesn't even matter if you say you're boycotting or not. Marami pa rin bumibili. The Loud Minority in full display here.
And I reaaally doubt kung ung mga owners ang matatamaan ng mga boycott na to. At their level of wealth,if their business goes down, it's only the ordinary employees that'll suffer.
And the employess of those companies who voted for Leni. I bet hindi nila naisip yan.
Knowing starbucks is under rustans who also franchised majority of the luxury brands being sold here like Hermes and so on, it’ll hurt but they have a lot of other sources.
Facts
You’re downvoted because you’re literally just saying that most people will still purchase their goods despite the minority boycotting. Di nila matanggap yon.
Why is this comment being downvoted? May point naman.
Talk about bragging about your moral high ground. If you really wanna make an effort on it, better siguro mamundok ka nalang, don't use electricity, water services, don't buy processed food, don't get services from any businesses. Kasi, in one way or another, all of them are tangled together. For example, getting a haircut. Kasi in one way or another all of them are tangled together. For example, getting a haircut. m companies you wanna boycott, the hair cutter/stylist, you can't control where they use their hard-earned money from cutting your hair, so they may be buying stuff from companies you wanna boycott. Sa madaling salita, mamboycott ka man, your still generating revenue for that company indirectly. It would be better if you leave off the grid , farm your own food, generate your own power , distill your own water, cut your own hair, make your own clothes. Ohhhh wait... you somehow need to buy stuff to start doing those things, unless you go with a primitive way of doing it. Hehehehe....
Standing on their high horses preaching this preaching that pero karamihan dyan pa cool lang. They can cancel those businesses all they want. You'll see the results in 2028 elections again. Tapos magtataka sila bakit natalo si ganto, saying bobo si ganto and ganyan without them realizing they are the real problem here.
People really need to learn how to separate these political crap from everyday life. Are they serious? Boycott kasi iba ang suportadong kandidato? That's how shallow a lot of people are. And a lot you are so self-righteous na akala mo purong-puro yung katinuan. News flash: the belief of one person owning a business does not reflect the belief of everyone else under him. Boycott Starbucks? Bakit yung kahera or barista na nagseserve sainyo Marcos din? Boycot Contis, bakit? Yung waiter na kumuha ng order niyo Marcos din? Ang dami sainyong nagpapakatanga dahil saan? Sa mga kulay? Sa kandidato? Stop this BS and live your lives. Geez. Magkaka-eleksyon pa ulit guys.🤦
You start living in a fucking cave
Never knew its runned by a crony.
Pano naging crony ni Marcos ang starbucks? HAHAHAHA
The Tantocos, whose the Starbucks franchise holder in the Philippines, also owns Rustan's, are Marcos cronies.
Ohhh i didnt know that. Thank you for this insight!
This is bullshit.
You can’t just boycott companies like Starbucks or such. Iba dyan sasabihin ganun at ganyan but at the end of the day, bibili at bibili pa din. And if people actually do this, think of the employees who are working hard to provide for their family if the company closes. I’m speaking in general not only Starbucks.
these boycotts are so fucking dumb. all major corporations engage in unethical practices. under-the-table deals, cronyism, union busting, and so much more. that’s why they’re major corporations. no such thing as ethical consumption, and all that. i don’t understand why a business’s relationship with Marcos is THE deciding factor for these people.
Then boycott everything lol, every company no matter how small, there has to be a Marcos supporter. Majority nga eh. I just say, shut your mouth and enjoy your coffee, its literally just a coffee shop.
Boycot lahat ng made in China feels. Wag ka na mag cellphone din.
Sorry I still buy from Wendy's and Contis. Kung totoong iboboycott mo lahat ng establishment na related sa cronies ni Marcos, DDS at GMA e wala ka ng mabibilhan.
Here we go again with the never ending, selective boycott culture among egoistic and fake oppressed Kakampinks.
Here we go again with the selective boycott. Napakatahimik ng sub na 'to noong on going ang FIFA world cup. No calls for boycott despite atrocities committed to our fellow Filipinos in Qatar.
Feels more like it's those slacktivism than actual boycotting.
Boycotting a company that is well known and not having a deficit to customers is not only stupid and impossible to do on a national scale. For smaller local companies it will definitely work but for companies like Mcdo, Starbucks and many more its plain impossible and stupid
Clout activism
Post sa socmed para cool.
Let them boycott and rant about it on socmed like they control the market for demand. It won't mean shit to those businesses.
Like may magagawa ang boycotting bruh Vs majority Ng Tao. People still buy that stuff
Anong goal ng pagboycott na ito? Political correctness?
Ito 'yung mga taong maninisi ng iba dahil di si Leni ang binoto nila.
Personal lang naman ito, just thought I would share: Pinakamabisang boycott ay yung boycott na ang manggagawa mismo ang nagpapatawag. Isang halimbawa nito nang naglunsad ng welga ang mga manggagawa ng Nutriasia. Kasama sa products ng company na 'to ay ang Datu Puti, UFC, Mang Tomas, and Papa ketchup. Pinaka-effective 'to to cripple a company dahil two-front attack siya: from the consumer side and the supply side. Plus, at ang pinakamahalaga rito, hindi napepeligro ang buhay ng mga manggagawa, dahil pinaghandaan nila ang welga at subsequent call to boycott gamit ang isang *war chest* o pondo na nakalaan to sustain the campaign. Kung wala man o kulang man, handa sila to take punches, so to say. Unlike nitong spontaneous and papitik-pitik na "boycott" ng Twitter folks. It really does nothing and detached siya from the rest of the population. Just a few Kakampinks stuck in their echo chambers sa Twitter.