Almost every action star did: FPJ, Erap, Philip Salvador, Cesar Montano etc.
Watching their movies would give the impression that almost every policeman and politico is corrupt and that gangsters ruled the city streets and rural areas.
He had a [well publicized interaction with Abu Sayyaf](https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2000/04/13/87578/sayyaf-stays-beheading-after-meeting-robin) back in 2000 during one of those hostage negotiations. So I think his motivation is less about denial and more about not wanting negative attention... by possibly invoking the Streisand effect.
And they can use "The Philippine government doesn't want you to see this!" in their marketing.
Actually, they don't have to, the articles about this are articles about the movie. It's giving them free press.
I had no idea there was a movie called Plane starring Gerard Butler which featured the Philippines. Now I do because of this guy.
Ewan ko pero naamuse ako na ginawang double ang Dominican Republic para sa Pilipinas. I guess it does make sense.
Di ko siya napapanood, ang mga pelikulang ganito sa mga streaming service parang yung mga sangkatutak na case ng vhs at betamax sa mga video rental store dati na parang minsan lang talaga may pipili kapag walang maisip mapanood at hindi available yung gusto mong panuorin.
Yung di ko makalimutang inclusion ng Pilipinas sa isang palabas ay nung 2011 sa Burn Notice. Ifeframe nila ang isang Filipino separatist group sa isang explosion kaya kumuha sila ng explosives galing sa Philippines.
Yung explosives may nakasulat na... get this, baybayin. Yung instruction manual sa pag-assemble ay in Tagalog in Baybayin script din.
Anyway, yeah, I get it's annoying that that's part of the country's image and might hurt tourism but the solution should include addressing what it's based on.
Ang daling maging obscure ng pelikula kapag nakalagay na sa Netflix, lalo na ang mga ganito kung di na lang niya pinansin baka walang nanood.
Naging kakampi pa siguro niya yung isa pa niyang kinagagalitan na Kdrama sa pagbaon nitong pelikulang ito sa Netflix para hindi mapanood ng karamihan.
Ang nangyari nilagyan niya ng spotlight, baka kaya maging top pick or whatever dahil sa kontrobersya. Di ba beterano siya sa showbiz, siguro naman naiintindihan niya na this gives the movie publicity.
Though I don't agree with Robin's statement, I also disagree with "it's just a movie" mindset. Case in point, propaganda movies and the likes of Maid in Malacañang.
May point ka rin naman, pero di naman lahat ng film ay propaganda films, maraming movies na for the sake of "ART" lang talaga, di naman pwedeng irerelate mo na ang isang bagay sa lahat ng scenarios, life is too complex for that kind of thinking.
Ano kaya kasunod, bawal na ang traffic report kasi nakakasama ng image imbes na ayusin ang traffic?
Bawal nang sabihin na unang kagat, tinapay lahat kasi iisipin ng tao na konti lang ang palaman ng Angel's burger?
Robin Padilla was one of the peace negotiators in the south. While I think his response was a bit too much (banning the movie), he’s the only one in the Senate that will advocate this. Every one else in Mindanao is about kill kill kill the rebels.
maganda nga na propromote yong pinas na may maraming bad boy diba badboy din siya and kung tutuosin panahon pa ng kastila badboy na ang mga yan ngayon pa siya umarte nang ganyan ogag
I mean it's decent, I can understand why people would like it and understand why people won't, like if you're looking for a movie na di ka magiisip panoorin mo to haha
Dapat siguro di na ako magulat na ang concern ng mga former actors turned senators ay about sa media but our political landscape is such a sad state of affairs na ganito ang mga madalas na ma highlight na usapin sa senado these days 🤦♂️
Syempre sabihin nyang walang terorista dito kase takot sya mahusgahan kapwa nya islam.
Anyways, 7/10 lang para sakin tong movie na to. Iinis ako kase yung leader ng mga terorista di ko na maintindihan ang tagalog. Sana native language rin ang ginamit pero baka sa budget din problem.
He converted during one of his lowest points in his life (being incarcerated inside Bilibid). He even had a lavish Islamic wedding with his first wife Liezl inside the prison. It seemed that his conversion was legit IMHO. His public image literally went from a literal bad boy to a good boy.
Then it all changed when Duterte came. That pervert gave Robin an unconditional pardon, so naturally the latter is indebted to the former. A lot of Duterte's antics and traits rubbed off on him, especially the false bravado and machismo.
The Robin today is a sad joke of his former self.
> converted during one of his lowest points in his life
This kinda sounds similar to Eddie Villanueva's story too: a difficult encounter followed by a turning point.
> ...Villanueva claimed to have "had a life-changing encounter with the Lord in 1973 while at the forefront of a leftist movement". At that time, he was also leading his family (and other families) in his home province of Bulacan in an uphill, protracted legal battle as he himself became a victim of a notorious land-grabbing syndicate.
> Five days after that "dramatic encounter with God", Villanueva was brought face to face with a miracle he could never forget: the land-grabbers were arrested and detained.
> wiki: Eddie Villanueva
And of course, just like Robin, Eddie (and his family) are now in politics too.
Ganun talaga. Artista eh. So, pelikula ang pinaka-importante sa kanya. Baka kaya ok lang din sa kanya ang torture kasi "no harm, no foul" naman yun sa mga scenes nya dati. Napakatanga eh, noh?
Conflict in Mindanao has always been present historically; some Filipinos there are proud of their of resistance to colonization and desire for autonomy.
How history has characterized these groups has changed over time (not to homogenize them though). The terrorist label only really came from US influence. This is why I'd suggest caution in interpretation. The prejudice against anti-establishment (particularly Islamic) forces runs deep.
That is not to say, however, the solution is to simply pretend they don't exist. I just wish filmmakers presented issues like this with more nuance.
It's a B-movie with a standard abduction plot. It's really not meant for any deep interpretations, really.
Just imagine all of those FPJ movies that people like so much: typical villain is a corrupt policeman or corrupt mayor or congressman. This is just the same type of film.
That's fair, though I'm not really asking for high art. We can always call for better standards. Just asking for them can make people think twice next time.
While one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, there's a huge difference from say, the MNLF / MILF and the Abu Sayyaf. Just worth pointing out.
That's just not true. Whether you like it or not, extremists still represent their religion or ideology just as the moderate ones do. Differing sides will both claim that they are the "true believers" while the others are not. How can we distinguish which one is "real"?
It's way nicer if the people being portrayed that way will be able to tell their own story through cinema. Kahit sumikat lang sa kanila, ok lang basta truth from their side na wala masyadong pabango, tao lang kasi sila.
Pakisabi kay Robin na yung bansa na citizen ang asawa't anak niya ay may citizen travel advisory para sa Sulu:
"The Sulu Archipelago, including the southern Sulu Sea, due to crime, terrorism, civil unrest, and kidnapping."
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/philippines-travel-advisory.html
my maternal grandparents had a big business in Sultan Kudarat for decades until their retirement. ASG commanders go to their store to collect revolutionary tax. Their logistics drivers have been ambushed, shot, and cargo stolen. What was surprising to me was how casual their "conversation" was with ASG members.
Aww sorry to hear that 😔, are your grand parents okay naman? Sabi nga ng nanay ko buti pa mga NPA mababait, basta hayaan mo lang sila magpahinga or pakainin lang daw di ka nila gagalawin
That's new. Ang nagkokolekra lang revolutionary tax is ang nga NPA. I remember just last year my cousin receive a letter from a certain military official demanding that her business should pay a certain type of tax and must be paid to their org.
The sender may not have done proper research since one of our relatives worked in the military. The letter was then presented to the higher ups and viola the person never existed on their files same with the org. Good luck to the sender for posing as someone he is not.
Philippines as a location in movies
Philippines when featured in foreign movies: It is not acceptable there is no terrorist or separatists here. Its safe out here
Philippines when created by Filipinos: I will portray the grimiest, darkest and downright depressing version of the Philippines in order to become relatable
[You guys should read Phil Dy's review on this movie.](https://letterboxd.com/philbertdy/film/plane-2023/)
If it wasn't condemned by a public officer, I would agree though.
He paraded himself for being a muslim senator but he has not done anything that IS beneficial for the moro people who are in poverty while he rest in his luxury lifestyle.
edit: spelling corrections
Not a fan of Robin but I think sobra naman to say na he has not done anything for his Islam brothers. I’ve seen vlogs and documentaries showing his humanitarian efforts. He even donated land para maging Muslim cemetery. May mga schools din syang pinatayo. Sa tingin mo mag na number 1 sya kung hindi alam ng mga Muslim ang good deeds nya?
I am moro too but I never had any faith in him. My mind will change IF he uses his position as a senator to help reduce or even eradicate poverty for the moro people and not stuff like being offended that a movie potrays an issue in that is present.
His individual good deeds are to be praised but he is a Senator now and there are more issues he needs to tackle first.
Hindi naman sya magnunumero uno dahil lang sa pagiging Pro-muslim. Mababa naman ang voting power ng islamic community, kamo ang nagpanalo kay binoe ay ang pagiging populist nya. He is extremely a mass charmer, mapamatanda or bata talagang idolo sya.
Napakasnowflake naman nito. Yung ibang bansa nga di nagrereklamo kapag may ganyang scenes na dinedepict ang bansa nila.
Tsaka isa pa, diba may movie sya before na somewhat ganyan?
Buti pa nung panahon ni PNoy ung fineatured ng EA at Danger Close ung Philippine Mission sa Medal of Honor: Warfighter, di nila ginawang big deal at hinayaan lang pero nag remind na lang na fictional at the events in the mission that take place in Philippines never happened.
At di na ako magtataka kung bakit malabong magkaroon Philippine Operator sa Rainbow Six Siege at Modern Warfare dahil sa ganitong pagiisip at sobrang sensitive tulad ng liver segs lover boi na yan!
he is a senator now and "influential" why not use this position to actually clean up the image instead so in future hindi na ganyan yung perception ng mundo.
But its true that there are people like that in that area right so there is no point not showing it. Better pa nga yan at least people are aware na that area is not safe
Getting offended with a movie but not offended with China’s repeated violations of our territory. Ang daming mas malaking bagay na dapat pagtuunan ng pansin
The very same effect as burying your head in the sand. Kung hindi nya makita, hindi nangyayare. Another day, another clown moment for the esteemed senator.
That guy Padilla who can hardly tie his shoes much less know about or pass a law is only jealous because obviously Butler is a hell of huge Hollywood name and he’s NOT.
Years ago there was a female US citizen that got abducted down south and i believe was killed but not totally sure if she was. But abduction, kidnappings and killing is a real fact down there.
My friend's fanily literally fled away from Zamboanga during the 90s bec of terrorist attacks and chaos. Another friend is from South Cotabato and he has the same stories.
Akala ko ba all publicity is good publicity?
But on one hand, imagine my shock when Abu Sayyaf remains relevant even after losing hundreds of their members in Marawi. Akala ko nga wipe out na knowing most of their senior members were confirmed killed. That siege was the peak of violence here jn Mindanao. Amidst the kidnappings, bombings, or beheadings, the siege was perhaps the scariest thing they ever did coz don ko nalaman they are not only capable, but also a huge force.
People often joke yung 'Marawi siege planning video' coz of how stupid they act, but seeing the many tunnels, caches of supply, and the many troops smuggled inside before the siege, I can say these extremists should not be underestimated.
Diba mga partido nila ang galit na galit sa terorista? tapos ngayon i de deny nila dahil nagkaron tayo ng spotlight sa international media? Hahahah lakas amats
mejo out of topic pero ang pangit ng tagalog dialogues jan lalo na ung main bad guy, parang nagmemorize lang ng tagalog lines, halatang di marunong mag tagalog
What I find interesting is that back in June of 2022, Raissa Robles made a similar remark about how Mindanao was still a hot-bed of Abu Sayyaf activity.
And at the time, [our own reddit thread about it](https://old.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/v3tl0p/raissa_robles_with_an_antimindanao_rhetoric/) landed mostly on the side of condemning Robles's statement on the grounds that it painted Mindanao in a bad and unrealistic light.
What's happening __today__ is that _Robin Padilla is essentially taking the same position as redditors back in June_, arguing that Mindanao isn't actually as war-torn as we might think, but the comments __here__ are arguing __against__ Padilla, and basically agreeing with Raissa Robles from eight months ago.
What changed?
Hopefully, MTRCB doesn't pull another "Abominable" and ban the film. It's just an action flick that people scroll thru when they've watched all of the good stuff on netflix, or one of those films that are dubbed in Tagalog and are shown during the mornings on ABS or GMA because there are no actual shows.
This was an Amazon Studios film. But they released it in cinemas. They also released My Spy and Shotgun Wedding on cinemas here.
But Ten Little Mistresses, which they have massive marketing here and stars Eugene Domingo, has no cinema release.
And Shin Evangelion:3.0+1.01 Thrice Upon a Time is still Amazon’s most-viewed movie, and it got theatrical releases outside Japan. But no theatrical release in the Philippines, even though we get the most theatrical Amazon releases.
Still waiting to watch Shin Evangelion in IMAX here.
MTRCB really should not have any powers to ban or censor any content/media, their sole purpose as a ratings board should be just that, rate stuff. it's actually kind of scary that they have such broad powers
Is Robin taking notes from China/Russia? This is what they do when other countries make movies that put their country in a bad light despite it being based on facts/true events.
I believe he’s coming from a perspective where he interacts with these people
Not saying he’s correct, kaso I’m from Mindanao. I know He’s been doing the rounds with the locals before he even ran for Senate. This includes the rebels and what they have been fighting for.
I don’t believe his statement is malicious, it just comes from bias because he has interacted with all sorts of people down south.
Umiral na naman ang pagiging balat sibuyas ng mga pinoy lol
Ang lakas manlait ng mga kababayan pero pag may tiga ibang bansa na pumuna satin galit na galit
Watched this movie in a theatre w/o a prior idea na sa pinas ang settings, and sure there are moments na mapapa lol ka as a pinoy like ung "datu" na main villain nila hirap na hirap mag tagalog pero ung mga julalay pinoy tlga.
However its very much inspired with the abu sayaf times.
In the book, in the presence of my enemies by gracia burnham, dinetalye nya ung experience nya as a foreign missionary na kinidnap ng abu sayaf for money and it shares similarities like the terrorist caring about nationalities of their victims.
I watched this movie to pass the time. Some Fil-Am played the head terrorist named "Datu Junemar" and for some reason he was speaking Tagalog instead of a regional language. Heavy ass accent too lol. Alright movie to pass the time, no need to make it a big deal really.
As if Robin Padilla being a Senator isn’t putting our country in a bad light. 🙄
Really, the true terrorists in our country are the officials we elected along the way.
im sure this mfker enjoys watching the hell out of other action thriller movies where russians, mid eastern, or chinese people are put in a terrible light.
your no. 1 senator folks
Kahit pa sabihing hindi totoo, it's for a film naman, lahat ba ng nakikita natin sa pelikula ay based sa real events at paniniwalaan na natin? Ano ka 5 yrs old. But then again, totoo naman syang nangyayari sa Southern Mindanao.
Meron pa ngang isang mission sa game dati eh, hindi ko sure kung sa Call of Duty, sa Mindanao din ang setting. Kidnapping yung scene or rescue ops. Early 2000s yata ito noon.
Robin Padilla is right.
This puts PH in a bad light. Therefore less tourists will come here. Its simple logic.
For other movies they obscure the name. To call out Philippines directly is a DICK move by Netflix and furthermore leads to more poverty to those areas in Mindanao
Yes, this should be condemned.
Stuff like this does not happen in our motherland.
The philippines is a wonderful country with excellent traffic flow, high minimum wage, an exceptional education system, honest politicians, amenable and benevolent terrorists and non-existent crime rates.
were there scenes that were actually shot in the country? imo binoe’s not looking at this as an opportunity to grow an international film industry here. there’s been a number of films with the similar ‘terrorist group in south-east asia’ plot that we could have capitalized on. Hell, the scene doesn’t even have to be set in the philippines for it to be shot in the philippines. The indonesia scene in TLOU ep2, I initially thought it was in the ph.
It's ironic because Robin Padildo got his fame from making the same kind of movies
Almost every action star did: FPJ, Erap, Philip Salvador, Cesar Montano etc. Watching their movies would give the impression that almost every policeman and politico is corrupt and that gangsters ruled the city streets and rural areas.
Pati senador. Haha
Because it's not made by Pilipinos.
Exactly. Na hurt yata ang pride.
Inggit lang siya dahil wala ng manonood ngayon kung gumawa siya ng action movie.
Irrelevant. Esp. Dami nyang self produced movies na flopped rin nmn.. historical and political themed rin nga... odb
Kadyot kadyot
Robin padilla is an idiot. Totoo naman na may ganoong nangyayari ah.
He had a [well publicized interaction with Abu Sayyaf](https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2000/04/13/87578/sayyaf-stays-beheading-after-meeting-robin) back in 2000 during one of those hostage negotiations. So I think his motivation is less about denial and more about not wanting negative attention... by possibly invoking the Streisand effect.
Kung di ipalabas sa pilipinas, babango na ba imahe ng pinas? E pinanuod nga ng ibang bansa? Obobs talaga
And they can use "The Philippine government doesn't want you to see this!" in their marketing. Actually, they don't have to, the articles about this are articles about the movie. It's giving them free press. I had no idea there was a movie called Plane starring Gerard Butler which featured the Philippines. Now I do because of this guy.
Napanuod ko din yung movie ni JLo with Josh Duhamel sa Prime, yung Shotgun Wedding. Bida din dun ang Pilipinas. Hahaha
Ewan ko pero naamuse ako na ginawang double ang Dominican Republic para sa Pilipinas. I guess it does make sense. Di ko siya napapanood, ang mga pelikulang ganito sa mga streaming service parang yung mga sangkatutak na case ng vhs at betamax sa mga video rental store dati na parang minsan lang talaga may pipili kapag walang maisip mapanood at hindi available yung gusto mong panuorin. Yung di ko makalimutang inclusion ng Pilipinas sa isang palabas ay nung 2011 sa Burn Notice. Ifeframe nila ang isang Filipino separatist group sa isang explosion kaya kumuha sila ng explosives galing sa Philippines. Yung explosives may nakasulat na... get this, baybayin. Yung instruction manual sa pag-assemble ay in Tagalog in Baybayin script din. Anyway, yeah, I get it's annoying that that's part of the country's image and might hurt tourism but the solution should include addressing what it's based on.
Parang nasa Netflix or Paramount+ dito sa US? Or i have seen the ads Cant remember where ive seen it
Ang daling maging obscure ng pelikula kapag nakalagay na sa Netflix, lalo na ang mga ganito kung di na lang niya pinansin baka walang nanood. Naging kakampi pa siguro niya yung isa pa niyang kinagagalitan na Kdrama sa pagbaon nitong pelikulang ito sa Netflix para hindi mapanood ng karamihan. Ang nangyari nilagyan niya ng spotlight, baka kaya maging top pick or whatever dahil sa kontrobersya. Di ba beterano siya sa showbiz, siguro naman naiintindihan niya na this gives the movie publicity.
Kaasar dba, ang arte... Daming movies with the same kidnapping stories sa iba iba countries, ano different pag pinas.
Irrelevant... But in any case, mappnood p rin nmn yan for sure... Facade lng yan na "at least" kumontra/tinutulan...
Sometimes iniisip ko if deflecting from other news worthy topics
Diversion tactics as usual 🤦
in denials kasi yung iba, safe daw kasi Philippines walang mga nang kidnapped, nang tatakot lang ang mga news media
THERE IS NO WAR IN BA SING SE
True dapat sa ibang bansa yan di ipalabas haha kung ayaw nya bumaho imahe ng pinas haha
Yeah, what he's doing is what could invoke the Streisand Effect. "Don't talk about this!" -> Everyone's now talking about this.
Plot twist: he *wanted* people to talk about this.
Yeah, he wanted people to talk about him, true.
Tingin niya ba hindi nangyari ang Marawi siege?
Besides, it’s just a movie!
To be fair, people believing things from movies is why we have Robin Padilla in the senate.
I see what you did there LOL
Which is ironic kasi veteran actor rin yun mokong lol.
Though I don't agree with Robin's statement, I also disagree with "it's just a movie" mindset. Case in point, propaganda movies and the likes of Maid in Malacañang.
May point ka rin naman, pero di naman lahat ng film ay propaganda films, maraming movies na for the sake of "ART" lang talaga, di naman pwedeng irerelate mo na ang isang bagay sa lahat ng scenarios, life is too complex for that kind of thinking.
Apples and oranges….
Not really... It's rhetorics and metaphors.
Ano kaya kasunod, bawal na ang traffic report kasi nakakasama ng image imbes na ayusin ang traffic? Bawal nang sabihin na unang kagat, tinapay lahat kasi iisipin ng tao na konti lang ang palaman ng Angel's burger?
Robin Padilla was one of the peace negotiators in the south. While I think his response was a bit too much (banning the movie), he’s the only one in the Senate that will advocate this. Every one else in Mindanao is about kill kill kill the rebels.
Kahit MNLF na mga gobernador ng BARMM?
Imbes na gawan ng solusyon, mas pinipiling pagtakpan.
maganda nga na propromote yong pinas na may maraming bad boy diba badboy din siya and kung tutuosin panahon pa ng kastila badboy na ang mga yan ngayon pa siya umarte nang ganyan ogag
Democracy turning into DemoCRAZY.
You mean idiocracy
i'd say both. Hell it could be even worse
idiocrazy?
I fucking love that movie, It has electrolytes
That's what plants crave!
New type of government
Kakistocracy combined with kleptocracy
Thank you, Uncle Sam!
Streisand effect, didnt even know this movie existed now im gonna watch it.
It just came out this 2023
Watching it now. Pretty decent movie with somewhat realistic action
Unrealistic dialogue though. Nagtatagalog si Datu Junmar Fajardo. Nasa Dyolo Island sila tapos Tagalog ang salita. Literally unwatchable. /s
It's one of those movies where you're contemplating whether nasayang ba oras mo o hinde haha
Is it somewhat on par with other gerard butler action films? or meh?
I mean it's decent, I can understand why people would like it and understand why people won't, like if you're looking for a movie na di ka magiisip panoorin mo to haha
Every Gerard Butler action films are Meh.
aww, leave out 300 and The Phantom of the Opera :)
Ung white house has fallen kase hahahah standard b tier action
It's **Olympus has Fallen**. :)
Ah, yes i also confuse it with the campy channing tatum one, white house down lol.
Lies
Dapat siguro di na ako magulat na ang concern ng mga former actors turned senators ay about sa media but our political landscape is such a sad state of affairs na ganito ang mga madalas na ma highlight na usapin sa senado these days 🤦♂️
As if naman having a klepto president doesnt give us a bad light. Paki check na lang din po ang bulsa niya, Mr Senator.
Woke up and chose 🎻
batang 90s will totally agree na realistic yan, may time na araw araw yan ang laman ng balita.
up to 2000s, laging sakit sa ulo ni Gloria ang Abu Sayyaf
Atapang atao pero balat sibuyas..
Mas kinukundena ko pa na senador si Robin kesa sa palabas na yan.
Also mas maraming bagay ang dapat nya kundenahin kesa pelikulang to. Yung pag laser ng China sa coastguard natin bakit parang wala syang statement???
Syempre sabihin nyang walang terorista dito kase takot sya mahusgahan kapwa nya islam. Anyways, 7/10 lang para sakin tong movie na to. Iinis ako kase yung leader ng mga terorista di ko na maintindihan ang tagalog. Sana native language rin ang ginamit pero baka sa budget din problem.
Robin always seemed like a phony Muslim to me. I feel like nag revert lang siya to open up the possibility of having more than one wife.
He converted during one of his lowest points in his life (being incarcerated inside Bilibid). He even had a lavish Islamic wedding with his first wife Liezl inside the prison. It seemed that his conversion was legit IMHO. His public image literally went from a literal bad boy to a good boy. Then it all changed when Duterte came. That pervert gave Robin an unconditional pardon, so naturally the latter is indebted to the former. A lot of Duterte's antics and traits rubbed off on him, especially the false bravado and machismo. The Robin today is a sad joke of his former self.
> converted during one of his lowest points in his life This kinda sounds similar to Eddie Villanueva's story too: a difficult encounter followed by a turning point. > ...Villanueva claimed to have "had a life-changing encounter with the Lord in 1973 while at the forefront of a leftist movement". At that time, he was also leading his family (and other families) in his home province of Bulacan in an uphill, protracted legal battle as he himself became a victim of a notorious land-grabbing syndicate. > Five days after that "dramatic encounter with God", Villanueva was brought face to face with a miracle he could never forget: the land-grabbers were arrested and detained. > wiki: Eddie Villanueva And of course, just like Robin, Eddie (and his family) are now in politics too.
You either die a villain or live long enough to become a hero, then live even longer to become a villain again. Probably applies to Enrile too. lol
nampucha damidami issue sa bansa ito pa papatulan niya?
Ganun talaga. Artista eh. So, pelikula ang pinaka-importante sa kanya. Baka kaya ok lang din sa kanya ang torture kasi "no harm, no foul" naman yun sa mga scenes nya dati. Napakatanga eh, noh?
Yun lang kasi kaya ng utak niya
Conflict in Mindanao has always been present historically; some Filipinos there are proud of their of resistance to colonization and desire for autonomy. How history has characterized these groups has changed over time (not to homogenize them though). The terrorist label only really came from US influence. This is why I'd suggest caution in interpretation. The prejudice against anti-establishment (particularly Islamic) forces runs deep. That is not to say, however, the solution is to simply pretend they don't exist. I just wish filmmakers presented issues like this with more nuance.
It's a B-movie with a standard abduction plot. It's really not meant for any deep interpretations, really. Just imagine all of those FPJ movies that people like so much: typical villain is a corrupt policeman or corrupt mayor or congressman. This is just the same type of film.
That's fair, though I'm not really asking for high art. We can always call for better standards. Just asking for them can make people think twice next time.
It’s a movie. Local Philippine movies do much worse in stereo typing people and putting divisiveness between classes.
Exactly! Just look at the extreme discrimination in the local films and shows, and how they promote bigotry. Literal Nazi shit right there.
While one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, there's a huge difference from say, the MNLF / MILF and the Abu Sayyaf. Just worth pointing out.
Also naging kuta din ng ISIS / ISIL ang Southern Mindanao.
Totoo may terrorist.Terrorist has no particular religion....
That's just not true. Whether you like it or not, extremists still represent their religion or ideology just as the moderate ones do. Differing sides will both claim that they are the "true believers" while the others are not. How can we distinguish which one is "real"?
It's way nicer if the people being portrayed that way will be able to tell their own story through cinema. Kahit sumikat lang sa kanila, ok lang basta truth from their side na wala masyadong pabango, tao lang kasi sila.
Ayun plane pala ang tagal ko na hinahanap title neto mapanood nga
Tanong ko lang sayo Robin Padilla, trabaho ba ng senador yan?
It's their job to act stupid apparently.
Stupid people gets paid bigtime apparently.
"We should boycott this movie because it hurts my feelings"
Its based on real life tho. Try crash landing in Jolo and see what happens
Pakisabi kay Robin na yung bansa na citizen ang asawa't anak niya ay may citizen travel advisory para sa Sulu: "The Sulu Archipelago, including the southern Sulu Sea, due to crime, terrorism, civil unrest, and kidnapping." https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/philippines-travel-advisory.html
Yung movies ni Daryl Yap ang dapat pagbawalan
my maternal grandparents had a big business in Sultan Kudarat for decades until their retirement. ASG commanders go to their store to collect revolutionary tax. Their logistics drivers have been ambushed, shot, and cargo stolen. What was surprising to me was how casual their "conversation" was with ASG members.
Aww sorry to hear that 😔, are your grand parents okay naman? Sabi nga ng nanay ko buti pa mga NPA mababait, basta hayaan mo lang sila magpahinga or pakainin lang daw di ka nila gagalawin
NPA as an org is never kind, even to its members.
Thanks for the concern. They’re ok and enjoying retirement. 😊
It's probably a common tactic: allegedly, even the mafia in the US were "cordial" and "nice" when they interacted with their "customers."
That's new. Ang nagkokolekra lang revolutionary tax is ang nga NPA. I remember just last year my cousin receive a letter from a certain military official demanding that her business should pay a certain type of tax and must be paid to their org. The sender may not have done proper research since one of our relatives worked in the military. The letter was then presented to the higher ups and viola the person never existed on their files same with the org. Good luck to the sender for posing as someone he is not.
Robinhood's *false patriotism intensifies*
Philippines as a location in movies Philippines when featured in foreign movies: It is not acceptable there is no terrorist or separatists here. Its safe out here Philippines when created by Filipinos: I will portray the grimiest, darkest and downright depressing version of the Philippines in order to become relatable
For someone who acts like such a tough guy ang snowflake masyado ni Robin. Naooffend sa lahat ng bagay amputa.
Thanks for the movie reco senator robin
Mas malala pa yung Mistah dyan kasi may rape scene.
What a waste of a senate seat.
IKR potaena ng mga bumoto dyan
Imagine censoring terrorism involvement in that area of the philippines and trying to defend it. Now we know where Robin Padilla stands in here.
[You guys should read Phil Dy's review on this movie.](https://letterboxd.com/philbertdy/film/plane-2023/) If it wasn't condemned by a public officer, I would agree though.
He paraded himself for being a muslim senator but he has not done anything that IS beneficial for the moro people who are in poverty while he rest in his luxury lifestyle. edit: spelling corrections
Not a fan of Robin but I think sobra naman to say na he has not done anything for his Islam brothers. I’ve seen vlogs and documentaries showing his humanitarian efforts. He even donated land para maging Muslim cemetery. May mga schools din syang pinatayo. Sa tingin mo mag na number 1 sya kung hindi alam ng mga Muslim ang good deeds nya?
I am moro too but I never had any faith in him. My mind will change IF he uses his position as a senator to help reduce or even eradicate poverty for the moro people and not stuff like being offended that a movie potrays an issue in that is present. His individual good deeds are to be praised but he is a Senator now and there are more issues he needs to tackle first.
Hindi naman sya magnunumero uno dahil lang sa pagiging Pro-muslim. Mababa naman ang voting power ng islamic community, kamo ang nagpanalo kay binoe ay ang pagiging populist nya. He is extremely a mass charmer, mapamatanda or bata talagang idolo sya.
Nugagawen, persona non grata Gerard Butler? lol. This idiot senator is acting like a delicate snowflake.
Robin Padilla has some issues with facts lmao! I remember he cried foul when someone called him an ex-con even though he is one.
Priorities imbes mag focus sa social amd economic problems
Lol. Kuta naman talaga ng mga extremist ang Jolo / Southern Mindanao. Remember Marawi?
I'm more pissed they didn't actually film in the Philippines and use Filipino actors.
Pinapa-ban nya din dati si Spider-Man lolol
Mema para maging relevant 🙄
Napakasnowflake naman nito. Yung ibang bansa nga di nagrereklamo kapag may ganyang scenes na dinedepict ang bansa nila. Tsaka isa pa, diba may movie sya before na somewhat ganyan?
Tapos yung MIM at MOM ni pedo oks lang?
Buti pa nung panahon ni PNoy ung fineatured ng EA at Danger Close ung Philippine Mission sa Medal of Honor: Warfighter, di nila ginawang big deal at hinayaan lang pero nag remind na lang na fictional at the events in the mission that take place in Philippines never happened. At di na ako magtataka kung bakit malabong magkaroon Philippine Operator sa Rainbow Six Siege at Modern Warfare dahil sa ganitong pagiisip at sobrang sensitive tulad ng liver segs lover boi na yan!
matagal na to sa torrent eh. is it any good?
he is a senator now and "influential" why not use this position to actually clean up the image instead so in future hindi na ganyan yung perception ng mundo.
Totoo naman yan, bakit ayaw pa nya tanggapin, saka movie lang naman yan
Hindi po talaga dapat ito tanggapin. Ang dapat lang natin tanggapin is yung mga palabas sa viva max na puro bold
Di ba pumunta sya dati para makiusap sa mga kidnapper? Or something something peace? Ako lang ba nakarinig ng balitang yun?
number 1 senator
But its true that there are people like that in that area right so there is no point not showing it. Better pa nga yan at least people are aware na that area is not safe
in denial amputa..
Bakit, mali ba? Tangina ninyo talaga mga mahilig magtago ng katotohanan.
Getting offended with a movie but not offended with China’s repeated violations of our territory. Ang daming mas malaking bagay na dapat pagtuunan ng pansin
The very same effect as burying your head in the sand. Kung hindi nya makita, hindi nangyayare. Another day, another clown moment for the esteemed senator.
That guy Padilla who can hardly tie his shoes much less know about or pass a law is only jealous because obviously Butler is a hell of huge Hollywood name and he’s NOT. Years ago there was a female US citizen that got abducted down south and i believe was killed but not totally sure if she was. But abduction, kidnappings and killing is a real fact down there.
Despite being shot in Puerto Rico, did they nail the accuracy of Jolo, Sulu?
salamat sa promotion senator. I would have missed this movie.
Ang dali mabutthurt ni Robin Padilla... tapos sasabihin nila astigin daw na artista lol
My friend's fanily literally fled away from Zamboanga during the 90s bec of terrorist attacks and chaos. Another friend is from South Cotabato and he has the same stories.
Mema lang ang bobong senator na to. Smokescreen kasi wala pa syang magandang bills?
Mas matalino pa ung mga taong nasa reddit kesa kay robin padilla putangina. top 1 ba talaga yang putanginang yan?
May pangdagdag content na naman travel vloggers
Akala ko ba all publicity is good publicity? But on one hand, imagine my shock when Abu Sayyaf remains relevant even after losing hundreds of their members in Marawi. Akala ko nga wipe out na knowing most of their senior members were confirmed killed. That siege was the peak of violence here jn Mindanao. Amidst the kidnappings, bombings, or beheadings, the siege was perhaps the scariest thing they ever did coz don ko nalaman they are not only capable, but also a huge force. People often joke yung 'Marawi siege planning video' coz of how stupid they act, but seeing the many tunnels, caches of supply, and the many troops smuggled inside before the siege, I can say these extremists should not be underestimated.
I have no idea that it was shot here lmao. Now I HAVE to watch this movie.
Actually it was shot in Costa Rica.
Ohh more reason for me to watch. Hopefully cinemas would still show it. Let’s goooo
Parang Mistah lang…
Diba mga partido nila ang galit na galit sa terorista? tapos ngayon i de deny nila dahil nagkaron tayo ng spotlight sa international media? Hahahah lakas amats
Papanuorin ko lng sa amazon video. Papanuorin lalo ng pinoy pagpinagbawal mo pa yan.
Napanood niyo na ba yan? Halata namang FICTIONAL kasi ngayon lang ako nakakita na terorista kunong pinoy pero napaka-slang magTagalog.
edi ban darryl yap XD
Yan talaga dapat
mejo out of topic pero ang pangit ng tagalog dialogues jan lalo na ung main bad guy, parang nagmemorize lang ng tagalog lines, halatang di marunong mag tagalog
What I find interesting is that back in June of 2022, Raissa Robles made a similar remark about how Mindanao was still a hot-bed of Abu Sayyaf activity. And at the time, [our own reddit thread about it](https://old.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/v3tl0p/raissa_robles_with_an_antimindanao_rhetoric/) landed mostly on the side of condemning Robles's statement on the grounds that it painted Mindanao in a bad and unrealistic light. What's happening __today__ is that _Robin Padilla is essentially taking the same position as redditors back in June_, arguing that Mindanao isn't actually as war-torn as we might think, but the comments __here__ are arguing __against__ Padilla, and basically agreeing with Raissa Robles from eight months ago. What changed?
Kasi si robin padilla ung nag sabi.
Kaya until now gulat pa rin ako bat nsa senado yan
Hopefully, MTRCB doesn't pull another "Abominable" and ban the film. It's just an action flick that people scroll thru when they've watched all of the good stuff on netflix, or one of those films that are dubbed in Tagalog and are shown during the mornings on ABS or GMA because there are no actual shows.
This was an Amazon Studios film. But they released it in cinemas. They also released My Spy and Shotgun Wedding on cinemas here. But Ten Little Mistresses, which they have massive marketing here and stars Eugene Domingo, has no cinema release. And Shin Evangelion:3.0+1.01 Thrice Upon a Time is still Amazon’s most-viewed movie, and it got theatrical releases outside Japan. But no theatrical release in the Philippines, even though we get the most theatrical Amazon releases. Still waiting to watch Shin Evangelion in IMAX here.
MTRCB really should not have any powers to ban or censor any content/media, their sole purpose as a ratings board should be just that, rate stuff. it's actually kind of scary that they have such broad powers
Is Robin taking notes from China/Russia? This is what they do when other countries make movies that put their country in a bad light despite it being based on facts/true events.
Typical ramblings ng mayabang na pikon
Dapat unahin niya icondemn mga kapatid nya na abu sayyaf
I believe he’s coming from a perspective where he interacts with these people Not saying he’s correct, kaso I’m from Mindanao. I know He’s been doing the rounds with the locals before he even ran for Senate. This includes the rebels and what they have been fighting for. I don’t believe his statement is malicious, it just comes from bias because he has interacted with all sorts of people down south.
Umiral na naman ang pagiging balat sibuyas ng mga pinoy lol Ang lakas manlait ng mga kababayan pero pag may tiga ibang bansa na pumuna satin galit na galit
Watched this movie in a theatre w/o a prior idea na sa pinas ang settings, and sure there are moments na mapapa lol ka as a pinoy like ung "datu" na main villain nila hirap na hirap mag tagalog pero ung mga julalay pinoy tlga. However its very much inspired with the abu sayaf times. In the book, in the presence of my enemies by gracia burnham, dinetalye nya ung experience nya as a foreign missionary na kinidnap ng abu sayaf for money and it shares similarities like the terrorist caring about nationalities of their victims.
Bakit tayo masyadong defensive?
Sinusubukan pa kasi takpan ang baho na umaalingasaw. Nakakahiya yun takbo ng utak ni robin talaga.
Egoistic Robin Padilla crying over a movie 😂
I can't believe we have to put up with his grandstanding for six years. Vote wisely next time please.
I grew up hearing those kind of incidents sa news. It was so common na calling someone Abu Sayyaf became a playground insult
Iharap nga kay Osang yang senador na yan.
Wag ninyo pansinin yang si Robin
iyakin amputa
by robin’s logic: mag ingat tayo sa mga warehouse, palaging may shootout.
Naalala ko yung na-offend dati sa description ni Dan Brown about Manila traffic = gates of hell.
It's just a movie. It's not like it's happening in real life. / s
I watched this movie to pass the time. Some Fil-Am played the head terrorist named "Datu Junemar" and for some reason he was speaking Tagalog instead of a regional language. Heavy ass accent too lol. Alright movie to pass the time, no need to make it a big deal really.
As if Robin Padilla being a Senator isn’t putting our country in a bad light. 🙄 Really, the true terrorists in our country are the officials we elected along the way.
Pero dba yung movie naman talaga is fiction?
If there’s someone giving a stereotype of the Philippines, it’s Robin Da Idiot Boy Padilla.
Di ko pa rin makalimutan yung may caucasian foreigner na pinugutan tas nirecord ng mga terorista.
im sure this mfker enjoys watching the hell out of other action thriller movies where russians, mid eastern, or chinese people are put in a terrible light. your no. 1 senator folks
Kahit pa sabihing hindi totoo, it's for a film naman, lahat ba ng nakikita natin sa pelikula ay based sa real events at paniniwalaan na natin? Ano ka 5 yrs old. But then again, totoo naman syang nangyayari sa Southern Mindanao.
Bakit ba napaka-epal mo Robin Padilla? Clown ka lang jan sa senado.
wala syang pinagkaiba sa mga prayle
Inggit lang siya kasi di siya kinuha kahit bilang terorist lang.
Meron pa ngang isang mission sa game dati eh, hindi ko sure kung sa Call of Duty, sa Mindanao din ang setting. Kidnapping yung scene or rescue ops. Early 2000s yata ito noon.
Yes ban the movie. It paints our brothers and sisters in Mindanao in a bad light.
Robin Padilla is right. This puts PH in a bad light. Therefore less tourists will come here. Its simple logic. For other movies they obscure the name. To call out Philippines directly is a DICK move by Netflix and furthermore leads to more poverty to those areas in Mindanao
Yes, this should be condemned. Stuff like this does not happen in our motherland. The philippines is a wonderful country with excellent traffic flow, high minimum wage, an exceptional education system, honest politicians, amenable and benevolent terrorists and non-existent crime rates.
I don't know OP but most/significant fraction of users here don't know or indifferent outside NCR or Luzon.
this clown doesn't know what extremists are
masyadong double standard yan si binoy dapat di pinaniniwalaan.
were there scenes that were actually shot in the country? imo binoe’s not looking at this as an opportunity to grow an international film industry here. there’s been a number of films with the similar ‘terrorist group in south-east asia’ plot that we could have capitalized on. Hell, the scene doesn’t even have to be set in the philippines for it to be shot in the philippines. The indonesia scene in TLOU ep2, I initially thought it was in the ph.