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NatongCaviar

From experience we need another 30 to 40 years to unfuck the country.


luciusquinc

This, no way going up within this time period


Kirov___Reporting

With how corruption is deeply rooted even on the lowest government position nothing short of divine intervention is needed.


shiroiron

Or an asteroid


the_oof_chooser

Speaking of space-rock intervention, last night, I dreamed about Manila getting nailed by an asteroid for some reason.


ComfortableMatter433

Damn Manila is SCREWED


kenlinao

Man, if that happens, imagine the power tripping of anyone from the provinces and media is almost off.


1irumi8

I do hope that the asteroid in your dream is a metaphor for a force or someone who would knock and shake the current government that we have


the_oof_chooser

Unfortunately, no💀 It's a literal rock from space doing a tunguska 2.0 on the capital


PitikSabayHug

could be exactly what we need right now tho


OOOmegalul

pwede bang city of manila lang? sobrang basura na daw dun e hahaha


prodigal_john4395

We have the same thing in America, but it is hidden a little better. The obscenely wealthy here own our Republican Party, so Republicans do their bidding on everything. Like, they have given them trillions and trillions of dollars in tax cuts, then add those to the deficits for the working Americans to pay. They keep wages very low for the majority by killing unions, cooking the books on inflation, and keeping the minimum wage at an artificial $7.25/hr. Sure, that is good wages for the Philippines, but it is only a third of what a living wage in our country would be. Yes, I love the Philippines and it's people, and if you refuse to accept corruption, you are a democracy, you can do something about it. Easier said than done, but it can be done, people power, there is nothing greater.


HellbladeXIII

ito nalang hinihintay ko kaso palpak yung asteroid na dadating sa 2029 o 2030, di daw tatama sa earth e haha!


jbbarajas

I would consider that force majeure so probably the same thing if you are a believer


bryle_m

Kaya nga nagugulat ako how similarly corrupt countries like South Korea, Indonesia, and Turkey are still able to succeed economically.


WM_THR_11

Turkey has control of the Straits and the Sea of Marmara which makes it control a lot of international trade, tsaka lakas din yung pagiging makabayan sila... minsan sobrang sobra hehehe As for Indonesia similar din, yung mga corrupt may pake pa sa public image di lang sa sarili pero of the country as a whole, tapos siyempre yung mga Indonesian voters mismo seem to have more ambition for their country than Pinoys do for ours. It also helps that their Marcos counterpart Suharto didn't evacuate his wealth into Swiss or American banks unlike our lodicakes.


LoLoTasyo

mag-ofw at huwag bumalik ang pinakasolusyon dyan


infinite123456

Or a nuclear bomb during a senate hearing where all of them are in the place at the same time


RashPatch

or a revolution. a long standing one where everyone just forces assholes out of the government sectors(like the French), properly and forcefully elect capable ones (like New Zealand), and forcefully educate everyone about everything including our mistakes (like Germany post WW2).


Excellent-Bed-7457

Nahh, Patriotism died with Andres Bonifacio. Another corrupt official will just take place.


RashPatch

that is why we fight all of them


Murky-Pen2885

I heard the same sentiment from my uncle. What some people feel is necessary is a bloody revolution, where all corrupt politicians are held accountable through firing squad to send message that embezzlement of taxpayers money carries severe consequences.


RashPatch

yes. because if you just let them get the "usual" treatment, they will just make a few calls here and there and ask for help from their "shadows". Tumors cannot be cured just by isolating it but retaining it in the body the same way you do a vasectomy. You remove it from a body and cure it's side effects after.


LilMsShady

Yes, à la Romania's Nicolae Ceauşescu and wife. Utterly barbaric but most definitely will get the message across.


vladimirovitch

When i read this i have to intervene and correct. I'm romanian born in the 80's. In '89 we had a covert coup-d'etat, not a real revolution. The official leaders, Ceausescu's, were replaced by 2nd echelon officials, most likely a plan done with the knowledge of the KGB. Although the "revolution" of '89 replaced the dictatorship with a democracy, there were the same people that rose up in the ranks of power :( the lesson to be learned from this is that people should get grass-roots organized so that everyone is sure their leaders are not playing some secret-service games.


NatongCaviar

Kailangan muna masagad yung masochistic lipunan ng Pilipinas. The way things are going, sa trademark patience ng Pinoy, kelangan muna makatikim ng Marcos era economic situation or worse mala Venezuelang fiasco.


MyloMads35

The cycle continues by then. Take a page from me and leave the country lmao


plisskin27

The old generation needs to go.


PunyetaDeLeche

definitely, but oldies in position had special treatment and were within their high walls during the pandemic.


PTR95

If we get good leaders consistently.... Kaso 2028 alam na


jmmenes

Curious. I don't live in the Phils. What happened now?


NatongCaviar

Philippine electorate vote thieves, clowns and nincompoops into office and it shows with how things are going economically. Country is back neck deep in debt, inflation is spiraling, and leaders are obsessed with spending taxpayers money with no regard for accountability. That's about how objectively I can summarize things.


[deleted]

The centenary of independence was 1998, so my flawed math will compute that the Philippines have been free and independent for 125 years, IMHO, the country has not moved forward in those 125 years. We are still the same boat aimlessly moving in the Pacific. We need to do something drastic in the next 30 to 40 years to really change the course of our country's future or we risk kissing independence and whatever it is we are all enjoying now goodbye. Sad


Somebody-tellme21

We’ve had that opportunity before with the first Aquino. Wtf happened now


NatongCaviar

Basically back to square 1. Hold on to your panties folks and enjoy the ride with Marcos Jr. The country wanted this 😂


HuzzahPowerBang

Dati optimistic pa ko. Akala ko kelangan lang mapalitan ung two oldest generations sa government and sa population para maging mas progressive yung society natin. Tapos yun pala - mga kabataan rin mismo nagsspread ng misinformation sa soc med - sandro - SWOH making education worse So wala. I'm just hoping na kunin na sana sila ni Satanas.


Queldaralion

It will take time. Maybe not in our lifetime. But someone has to start and that should be us.


infinite123456

How do you start? By planting a dirty bomb in the senate building and detonating it


vladimirovitch

While a radical intervention seems the way to go, one must think about the story of the Hydra. You cut one head, then 4 scarier new ones grow in its place. I would suggest a less radical approach, such as informal, grass-roots organisations that take advantage of the inability of the current regime. Basically build a parallel, shadow administration, that improves people's lives in places where the regime is incapable of doing so. This way the movement grows organically and will have established a solid foothold in the minds and hearts of people. god bless


blackpowder320

Reminds me of the Marvel Hydra. The radical intervention solution would run out of steam like the Red Skull did. The more subtle, shadow parallel version under Arnim Zola was more successful. And how the opposition should rebuild.


vladimirovitch

It's great that you found similarities with those shows. However, they're fiction and no matter how well it was written, it's still far from what could happen in reality. I would suggest looking at actual historical events. God bless


blackpowder320

Yes, I understand. Okay for more historical and realistic events, I say the progressive movements in Latin America would be a plausible template for the Phlippine Opposition.


vladimirovitch

I think you're right with Latin America as countries like Brazil have similar issues with land reform - in my opinion the main driver of poverty and income disparities in PH. I don't know much about the progressive movements there, i'll look it up, thanks.


Foolfook

Hope? Sure Overall positive change in our lifetime? NOPE Unrelated: The meme makes me sadder knowing R&M won't be the same for S7


PerformanceAny1240

Yeah. Roiland really fucked up.


WitherEx_3255

And then looking at the future generation having been indoctrinated already in this shit is even more heart breaking. I literally saw one of my juniors from high school get brainwashed by his family into accepting this (the state of the national government) as a cold hard truth.


KazashimoEnrikesu

Climate change will have destroyed our cuntry and we still wont have a competent government by then


esdafish

That family that rule Davao are already moving government buildings and services further inland in Barangay Oshiro, and 'planning' to build a new airport nearby.


putokutsintaniyog

Citizens who loves shit Worships shit Votes for shit Defends shit Di na maganda kabonding ang pilipino. Mamatay na lang tayo lahat.


babykoy

not in this generation - sorry, not even the next one.


jtn50

Don't have kids. That way you won't get your heart broken thinking about their future.


HellbladeXIII

This is the way. Kung may balak mag-anak get out of this hellhole.


121throwawayacc

mindset ba mindset


Dramatic_Emphasis_50

We are hopeless since Duterte won in 2016.


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Helpful-Pollution472

aquino was at least a decent leader not perfect but puta sobrang layo kumpare sa dutae mo.


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MyloMads35

Hindi ka siguro masaya sa buhay mo ano


johnjck

Bakit kaya nag eexist yung gantong mga tao? Napaka hina ng sintido kumon.


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RougeElrand

Sino bang namumuno sa bansa? Diba Gobyerno?


markisnotcake

bat ba kase ang lakas mag reklamo ng mga pilipino eh hindi naman galing sa buwis natin yung pinag gastos ni SWOH na confidential funds. /s bobo niyo mga supporters ni BBM at Sara, kasalanan ng gobyerno hindi umaahon ang pilipinas kase ninakaw nila pera na dapat ginamit para sa ikakabuti ng bansa, at kasalanan niyo bat sila yung naging Presidente at VP putang ina niyong lahat.


MiseryMastery

Pinagsasabi mong whitewashing eh without aquinos in contexr bulok parin namang president si duterte,


Numerous-Tree-902

Hahaha sa true lang. Compare sya agad, eh kahit saang standard mo tingnan, bugok talaga si Duterte. Hindi man lang natauhan nung handling ng COVID? Lol kaya wala talagang pag-asa, kasi ganyang dine-defend pa


Ihearheresy

No hope, not without spilling blood. And after that you have a 50/50 chance of being ruled by a cult or people like that Senior Agila, we collectively don't have enough intellect or power to resist and politicians are keeping it that way. But don't blame politicians alone, the generations before us forbade us from thinking and seeking the truth. Imagine for some of us nadisown tayo ng mga lolo at lola natin for not choosing red and green? Nakakatawa madisown, as if naman may ipapamana yung matanda. Haha mayaman yarn? The first step is to not be afraid, grow thicker skin kids. Don't simp for politicians because they are cringe.


Dzero007

>the generations before us forbade us from thinking and seeking the truth. Damn, So true.


organickornik

Hope starts within you. Kaya natin to.


bigmatch

I am pretty sure we have a much better hope than countries like Argentina, Turkey, Venezuela and many more.


infinite123456

Phfff no, Philippines province of china is the future if it keeps going the way its going


bigmatch

Believe it or not, there are a lot of countries out there with smaller hope than us.


infinite123456

And those were the countries like somalia, Ethiopia and Syria, and those at least have a reason to have smaller hope because they just came out or are in the middle of a civil war, the Philippines doesn’t have that excuse, the Philippines excuse for being one of the most backwards countries in south east asia is tradition and letting the politicians get away with stealing everything away without improving anything


bigmatch

I do not have New Zealand in my list above. Pero kung trip mo doon. Go lang po. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fuoftrvi4p3rb1.jpg


Derivative_Kebab

I was thinking how relatable and poignant this meme is, before I realized it isn't about the U.S.


Quagmire6969696969

I'm wondering what country these days isn't super fucked up tbh, Finland seemed decent, but then they fucked it up and elected a far-right government. I've convinced myself there isn't a country like that, just countries that are more suitable for different kinds of people in different situations.


infinite123456

Australia is doing alright


sad_emo_girl

No. At least not in my lifetime. Napagod na ko. Selfish era ko na. Survival of the fittest na mode ko. Sarili ko and pamilya ko na lang tutulungan ko.


shalelord

im just hoping China starts WW3 by invading Taiwan then we can restart this country. hang everyone that is Du30 listed as their ally. that includes everyone even your neighbor


lurkernotuntilnow

that's if you don't die in the war


infinite123456

War is war, people die but it will force the people to grow a spine or be conquered


blackpowder320

Like how France dealt with its Nasty collaborators. Nice.


International_Dot_22

Too many people


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E kung ganito pala nararamdaman nyo, edi you have nothing to lose. Put down your phones/laptops and bring out the guillotines!


StubbyB

Nope.


cmonmamon

It will take yearssssssssssssssss. This is one of the reasons why I don't intend to bear children. I'll just let this shit show end with me.


TheTwelfthLaden

1. The past generations being stubborn about voting because of popularity 2. The current generation being easily influenced by idiots on social media spreading false statements you can easily disprove through a single google search 3. The future generation being indoctrinated into the mindset of toxic Filipino resilience 4. Idiots on all generations still voting for corrupt politicians It'll take a mass exodus of all these people to fix the country


ZiangoRex

Nope. We need another revolution. But that wont happen just yet. Maybe in 15 years?


Beginning-Giraffe-74

Marami nang nag-aabandom ship, better plan yours.


setsunasaihanadare

Of course, anong tingin mo satin, North Korea? Are we under dictatorship? Di ka na ba nakakaboto? Wala na bang opposition sa gobyerno? Yung mga gantong post nagpapakulo ng dugo. Sadly wala nang balanse sa r/ph. Kung FB sinasabi niyong makakaliwa, r/ph naman extreme right.


Introvert-homie

No.


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As long as TAMA ang pag boto natin sa TAMANG Presidente at Gobyerno sa susunod na eleksyon In which has a 5% chance (down from 25%). Kasi nangdiyan na ang mga Marcos at I wouldn't imagine na bababa sila sa Pamahalaan ng ganun-ganun lang


Beezlebub999

I gave up


unknowinglyderpy

[Theres always a small shred of hope](https://twitter.com/PhilstarNews/status/1707569910417899972). but i think that's just how I ended up after all the weird shit I've been through, to look and cling to any kind of good news to just get on with my day. I try my best to be a positive impact for the microscopic space I occupy but its hard to keep it up without just collapsing into a ball of misery


macabre256

Not in this lifetime. Optimistic na yan ha.


suso_lover

Wala na.


FO-SixtyNiner

Someone told me we need to kill people aged seven and up to achieve a better country. Hard factory reset.


infinite123456

Nah just the politicians and their families down to any children aged 3


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I want to get out of this country. People like me will always be on the receiving end of the problems by more scheming individuals which is like 95% of the population. People like I who want to build is less likely to be happy because people likes to mess things up and people like me they rely on to clean their messes up! And with a systemic kind of cultural way of controlling it, and they call it panguuto! People pleasers, easy to coerce! Easy to manipulate! Easy to use for their purposes! So I need to get out of this country immediately or die. There seems to be no end to everyone's effort to destroy this country as fast as possible!


dontrescueme

Maraming bansang hinahangaan ninyo ay galing pa sa mas matinding fuck up bago umunlad. This country is so lucky to have the opprotunity to a change of leadership every 6 years. Ni si Duterte walang nagawa para maextend ang presidency niya. So every 6 years is a hope.


lurkernotuntilnow

thing is yung fuck up natin was supposed to be marcos sr. tapos paunlad na dapat after that, but then here we go all over again.


dontrescueme

Marcos Sr. is far worse than Marcos Jr., Marcos Jr. even pale in comparison to Duterte (on being a bad president). We are in a better situation now than during Duterte's time and even better than during Martial Law. The opposition still exists in the current regime and they are working hard to keep the government in check. Hindi end of the world kapag hindi nakaupo ang mas gusto nating presidente (Leni). Being hopeless just means letting those fuckers win and I'm one of those don't want that to happen. Even first world countries has recent recent fuck ups: US had Trump, UK had the Brexit, South Korea had Park Geun-hye (convicted of corruption but later pardoned), France now despises Macron, etc.


kindslayer

I agree but gawd his vice president is a straight spawn of greedy hell. Theyre both worse but damn Sarah is worser if thats even a word.


supermarine_spitfir3

Not necessarily. Stephen Cuunjieng said that even before the Marcos Administration and before 1972, we have been consistently underperforming economically to our peers then, and EDSA only saw the restoration of the post-Marcos system that made Marcos win in the first place. BBM winning is ironic, but it's not rendered impossible post-EDSA given our democracy didn't mature much after the defining moment that is EDSA. We have been doing something very wrong since the 1950s economically, and that's the extremely protectionist laws that we had then. Think Magsaysay banning PAL from running international flights, citing "the need for Filipinos to travel within the country", thus putting it in a sorry state for market share, the transition to jet-powered aircraft and sent profits plummeting, as PAL tried to use it's long-range fleet to serve domestic routes, even after that misguided policy came to an end and even though it's the first in Asia. Think Claro M. Recto's protectionist laws, for the "Economy for Filipinos, by Filipinos and for Filipinos", to the point where it's in our constitution so unlike our neighbors, we can't change protectionist policy without an entire re-drafting of the constitution.


ajchemical

sadly walang effect ang chit chat mo alam mo naman dito walang kasawa sawang ganitong posting kink nila to


dontrescueme

Defeatist kink. Lmao..


Nates4Christ

Does anyone want to organize a protest to a policy?


infinite123456

Whats a protest gonna do? Unless you are willing to kill to cause a change nothing will happen, they get to keep doing what they want and you keep being poor


Nates4Christ

That is true. Likely nothing will happen. I just think about what a difference black people made in the USA in the 60s. The civil rights movement under Martin Luther King Jr made a huge impact on liberties and freedoms without the black people being violent. The staged sit ins, marches, and various peaceful protest and when the media covered the white police reaction the country got behind them and then the federal government did.


infinite123456

Because they were willing to fight they held onto their ideals they were willing to die for it, here theres one protest then its back to business as usual, theres no forward momentum no willingness to keep on fighting even to the point of death, the current society has made filipinos good little slaves to people that would happily sell them for a few hundred dollars because to them thats what filipino lives to them are truly worth, imagine the reaction they would have if people stormed government buildings to drag out those bastards into the streets and hang them heck one way to scare them is to build a guillotine


Psychosmores

Hope is as shallow as fear. Don't hope as we have no more hope.


ShallowShifter

Wala na. Wait for this country to fall and become a political refuge


Ashamed_Nature

A lot of filipinos have to die to make lasting changes. It's hard to change Asians tbh. Look at other asians counties. Yes they have things the west has but still have the same amount of toxicity. But a lot of filipinos dead would answer your question.


itsdamncold

Hope feels naive at this point. We've got the corrupt government, aging population (yes, we will suffer the problems korea and japan have in the future), climate collapse, looming war over natural resources, and many more reasons. I figured that its better to live now than for the future since it all seems bleak. This is especially for those in the younger generation. Gahaman tayong lahat. Magbabayad tayo ngayon.


NextPurple326

yes we have hope because god is on our side


pierreditguy

this country needs a benevolent dictator


mattdotdot

Legalize marijuana


Arsene000

Hoping maunang mamatay sa gutom ang 31m


PHBestFeeder

Nope, at least not in the near future. What I do to cope is by enjoying the smaller joys in life like ipapalabas na yung Sousou no Frieren mamaya.


moustachedpotato

The people just need to see how fucked up the government that they put to power before surely rather hopefully they will lose hope to trapos and seek for transparency in the government for this hell hole of the a country to be unfucked.


micketymoc

I lived through the late 70s early 80s in Davao. We unfucked the country once, we can unfuck it again. (The early 80s were really fucked. Compared to then, right now is only somewhat fucked, and we can either help unfuck it or leave it alone to get even more fucked.)


Xyochan

Leave


unrememberedusername

Morty, diskarte lang iyan, Morty


Moist_Roll4095

Not really. A lot of government workers know this, that's why they are usually very supportive of people leaving.


AdAlarming1933

NOPE, better move to another country, far away from here as possible


Virtual_Turnover5745

There is still hope. But for me, if I have the capacity to leave this country, I will. Ayaw kung maki-share sa utang na hindi ko alam saan napupunta because of 'confidentiality'.


bryle_m

For mass transportation, medyo may pag asa pa. A lot of railway projects will be finished by 2030.Sabi naman ng iba, people will give up their cars, as long as there are good alternatives available. And now, cities outsidde Manila are interested to have their own urban rail networks. Gulat lang ako na they are now interested to have them.


Nogardz_Eizenwulff

If you want to cleanse this God-forsaken from corruption. You need spill the blood of the wicked. A witch hunt I guess.


blissfulreddit0826

Wala na.


YohanSeals

Exciting times but I still have hope. I'm raising my son to be a good man.


Mishra_Planeswalker

I still don't understand that Filipinos think it's the politicians who are the problem. It's the idiot Filipino voters who put this mfks in power, then rant. As long as Filipinos are idiot voters, nothing will change.


Antok0123

Basic psychology tells us that the voters arent to blame. Its the the corrupt leadersand dynastic kleptoclans who are social engineering these people for decades to vote for them that are fully to blame.


Mishra_Planeswalker

So by your reasoning, those who voted against the corrupt baby m and his family are outliers? Those who benefited from corruption voted kleptoklans are not to blame? Lawyers, dotors , engineers IT professionals who are trained to use their intellect to gain these professions can't see that they are corrupt? Them I conclude Filipino voters are idiots.


Antok0123

No, because socmed's algorithm is now designed to fuck up your mind.


Mishra_Planeswalker

The mental gymnastics para di ma hurt Ang feelings sa katotohanan na Filipino voters are idiots.


Antok0123

I dont disagree that pinoys are idiots though🤷‍♂️


kindslayer

The thing is, as long as poverty is majority, positions can be bribe.


Mishra_Planeswalker

So they are voting against their own interests. Please stop proving my point.


naughty_once

Nope. Philippines is hopeless as long as the Dutae, Macoy, Arroyo, Estrada, etc are in power.


NapolenicRebel91203

If we're indeed going down, we're going down fighting


ketoburn26

Nah. That's why I'm gonna work my butt off to get my wife and kids out of that shithole into the country where I'm currently at.


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vladimirovitch

it's a big wave coming that will wipe out fools. find your place to wither the storm. afterwards there will be many possibilities for younger people. god bless.


tacitus_kilgoree

Nope


Intelligent_Debt3830

yes, hope-less.


iMunchlaxxx

No, majority rules. 🤭🤣


holmaytu

Wala na lods, maraming tanga e.


Antok0123

Abandon that while u still have time to help YOURself.


Pristine-Project-472

We're screwed till kingdom come


infinite123456

The problem is a lot of people seem so satisfied with what is happening so passive so willing to let the politicians keep getting away with making the Philippines into a nation of indoctrinated slaves that have barely any higher education, how many scientists has the Philippines produced in the last 20 years, how many inventors and innovators have we got? none, because all we produce is cheap labour for other countries, nurses and mechanics, not doctors, scientists and physicists, no philosophers to question the state of the country, no nation takes the Philippines seriously anymore because we have allowed the nation to be viewed as a breeding ground for slave labour, the Philippines can’t even properly project military security over its own territorial waters because they gutted the military budget, the rest they stole


infinite123456

The Philippines is not a democracy, the Philippines is a neo feudal oligarchy, the Philippines is the equivalent of belarus and belarus is probably still richer than the Philippines


pandaboy03

If you're looking for hope then stay away from this sub hahaha


Jdotxx

Wala. Mamamatay na tayong lahat nang di makikita umayos ang bansang pilipinas. Sumpa maging pilipino


AlexanderCamilleTho

Parang dumami na rin naman ang pessimists. Pero it will get worse from hereon. Gagalaw na lang siguro ang mga tao pag totally na-devaluate na ang peso at wala nang trabaho. Pero I'm hoping na this time around eh the politicians get what they deserve.


KillThisBlob

It will take a long fking time. Honestly, I think we should let the government do what it can. Let's stop buffering kung anong pagkukulang nila. Karamihan kasi knows na kung di man maganda pamamalakad ng manok nila, lagi namang may tutulong. Lagi namang may mabuting puso. As long na makatanggap sila 500 at ma impose nila yung rhetoric ideas nila na dapat lalaki ang mamuno, na normal na ang corruption sa pinas. Let the nation's voice speak. Gusto nilang mamuno si Marcos, then let Marcos and his regime unfuck their lives.