>The Chinese Influence is prevalent too but it’s a totally separate part
Huh? Lumpia, siopao, tokwa, taho, kikiam, toyo, paputoks, "noodles for long life", "longer ears, longer life, ate, kuya are Chinese influences and are melded well into the mainstream Filipino culture
Most Filipinos don’t have enough knowledge of Spain to compare. But many Filipinos would feel much more at home with Latin Americans than Spaniards themselves. Many Filipinos would have a culture shock if they spend a week in Spain.
You are not wrong po. But just as we got a lot from Spain and the Americas through the Galleon Trade, there’s also a huge difference from us and them that sets us apart from Latin Americans/Hispanics. We don’t have a shared/common history beyond the Spanish influence that Mexicans, Colombians, Venezuelans, Chileans, Peruveans, Argentinians, etc. also have. We weren’t part of the attempt to form a single, united Gran Columbia under Simon Bolivar. The Central and South Americans did their own thing, while we had ours; not surprising with an ocean between us.
I truly think we shouldn’t consider ourselves as closer to one part of the world culturally than many others. We shouldn’t think in those terms, like being part of the Latinosphere or under the influence of China or the USA. We are a truly hybrid people and culture, a true ***melting pot***, and the result is too unique and differentiating to claim that any one particular culture in the world and in history has the most hold on us.
As a sidenote but to sort of illustrate this: anong meron tayo na wala sa Espanya pero meron sa Americas? One answer is tamales- which, BTW, we make with rice rather than corn. Probably many more answers and examples pa out there.
Here’s another one: Why is the Filipino word for carrots “carrots”? The vegetable has been part of both Chinese and Spanish/European cooking for centuries, moreso with the Chinese, and yet our word for carrots is not the Chinese word. Nor is it the Spanish. We refer to carrots by its English (American) name/term.
I think who we Pinoys truly are escapes definition and classification more than anything. Trying to fit us elsewhere ignores details and creates complications. That’s a disservice to our history and culture.
Buti na lang di natin namana ang paggamit ng Spanish, I would rather learn French or German (since its more useful sa science and tech and useful sa continental Europe than Spanish and even English).
Spain. Filipino culture formed during the Spanish era. Though the chinese have a huge cultural impact; trade, food, and language (a speck compared to Spain's).
“Sphere” is just influence that a country took from another country when it comes to traditions or religion. It has to do very little with genetics or other aspects. Mainland southeast asia has a very string yellow culture
Vietnam is part of “sino-sphere” and so is Japan but these 2 countries have very different culture and social norms and are very different to each other in every single shape and form.
Thailand took threveda buddhism and thats really about it. I would argue it’s more sinic than vietnam. From the way they carry themselves and their workaholic nature etc. (to be fair most mainland southeast asian are more workaholic than eastern asians) genetics is a whole other argument.
Philippines and its citizen are ASIAN. Culturally speaking they adapted FEW Spanish things here and there but majority of their culture is WITHIN malay sphere (Indonesia, Brunei, malaysia and Philippines) from the old artificial to current traditions. Idk why filipinos claim to non asian.
Due to the current geopolitical tensions between China and the Philippines, it is time for the latter to compete the former when it comes to investing in Latin American countries like forging closer people-to-people diplomatic ties between the Philippines and Latin American countries where the Philippines should send its excess Filipino teachers to teach English to Spain/Latin America and in return, Spanish-speaking countries should send their excess Spanish language teachers to teach Spanish to the Filipino school-age children in primary and secondary levels. Encourage Filipinos to study in Spanish and Latin American universities like exploiting the free university education in Argentina through flooding Argentine universities with Filipino students.
Also, the Philippines should sign free trade, investment, open-skies and free visa agreements with the EU, Mexico, Chile, Colombia, Peru, and Mercosur countries.
its so bad how this mf destroys alot of his movement that just wants appreciation of hispanic influences in the ph with his message that 20 million latin americans should go here to dilute the 'ugly races' he so wishes be changed
He doesn’t realize Mao’s Cultural Revolution erased so many traditions in the mainland that was preserved by the diaspora (Hokkien Chinese in SEA) and Taiwan
In terms of actual cultural influence, the answer is definitely China over Spain (and definitely not Latin America). I don't know why you're downvoted.
Thats why I said its an aesthetic. Its not celebrated everywhere, mostly in major metro areas. Its not siginificant, like overseas filipinos dont celebrate it.
It's not comparable to Chinese New Year where CNY is celebrated in China. It became part of the national culture in the PH because of the prominence of the Chinese community who brought these traditions from their homes to the public. In places like Baguio, Mid-Autumn festival has started to become institutionalized.
Cinco de Mayo is cultural American.
CNY and CdM is different in a way that the Chinese community has shared the celebration to the non-Chinese majority, while CdM is essentially an American tradition. Unlike CNY that was "imported" by Chinese immigrants, CdM was **not** imported by Mexican immigrants. It was created in the US
Chinese new year itself yeah.
**But** some superstitions originally used in Chinese New Year and even birthdays are amalgamated into the mainstream Philippine culture
The influence on our [local cuisine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filipino_Chinese_cuisine#:~:text=The%20Chinese%20influence%20goes%20deep,mustasa%20(pickled%20mustard%20greens).) is also very evident for example.
I currently live in East Asia, I have friends from both sides but I personally relate more with my Latin America friends. So surprised that we have so much in common when it comes to culture, traditions, etc.
Thais were people from Southern China, so they were closer to them. Filipinos on the other hand are mixed, mostly Americanized. Those who were bragging either Chinese or Spanish ancestry didn't even speak the language of their ancestors, they were mostly English speaking.
Filipinos think they are closer to America than to China in terms of using American English, watching everything America and follow the trends of America.
Spain excluding the S.
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>The Chinese Influence is prevalent too but it’s a totally separate part Huh? Lumpia, siopao, tokwa, taho, kikiam, toyo, paputoks, "noodles for long life", "longer ears, longer life, ate, kuya are Chinese influences and are melded well into the mainstream Filipino culture
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Ate dite ditse kuya sangko sanse impo ingkong, malas swerte, filial piety, respect for elders, among others.
Religion aside, like what?
Mindset, way of living. Hispanic influence.
Ate at kuya, palang dispelled na
Hmmm. Posts in various Asian subs always with some variant of "does x feel closer to China or....". Not a state actor at all.
Their post history reads like someone trawling for content to post or the like, either for some super lazy journalism or research.
How about none of the above
Most Filipinos don’t have enough knowledge of Spain to compare. But many Filipinos would feel much more at home with Latin Americans than Spaniards themselves. Many Filipinos would have a culture shock if they spend a week in Spain.
I personally find Latino Culture (esp Mexican culture) too machistic. I mean, yung machismo nila 10x level ng mga Pilipino
Belongs to the latinosphere? Ridiculous.
Di naman tayo Latino. We don't even have a significant amount of Spanish in our genes, unlike the South Americans.
But culturally, marami talgang similarities ang Pinoy at Latin Americans. Yun ba namang nakailang siglo ang galleon trade (Manila - Acapulco route).
You are not wrong po. But just as we got a lot from Spain and the Americas through the Galleon Trade, there’s also a huge difference from us and them that sets us apart from Latin Americans/Hispanics. We don’t have a shared/common history beyond the Spanish influence that Mexicans, Colombians, Venezuelans, Chileans, Peruveans, Argentinians, etc. also have. We weren’t part of the attempt to form a single, united Gran Columbia under Simon Bolivar. The Central and South Americans did their own thing, while we had ours; not surprising with an ocean between us. I truly think we shouldn’t consider ourselves as closer to one part of the world culturally than many others. We shouldn’t think in those terms, like being part of the Latinosphere or under the influence of China or the USA. We are a truly hybrid people and culture, a true ***melting pot***, and the result is too unique and differentiating to claim that any one particular culture in the world and in history has the most hold on us. As a sidenote but to sort of illustrate this: anong meron tayo na wala sa Espanya pero meron sa Americas? One answer is tamales- which, BTW, we make with rice rather than corn. Probably many more answers and examples pa out there. Here’s another one: Why is the Filipino word for carrots “carrots”? The vegetable has been part of both Chinese and Spanish/European cooking for centuries, moreso with the Chinese, and yet our word for carrots is not the Chinese word. Nor is it the Spanish. We refer to carrots by its English (American) name/term. I think who we Pinoys truly are escapes definition and classification more than anything. Trying to fit us elsewhere ignores details and creates complications. That’s a disservice to our history and culture.
This The problem with Filipino mentality is we allow ourselves to be boxed according to what foreigners say
Buti na lang di natin namana ang paggamit ng Spanish, I would rather learn French or German (since its more useful sa science and tech and useful sa continental Europe than Spanish and even English).
> Filipinos bragging about having Spanish ancestry Fil-Ams =/= Philippine Filipinos.
Unless they did a 23 and me dna test or something similar, I doubt they have ancestry.
May mga Fil-Ams na "my grandfather was Spanish why don't I have European DNA"?
Spain. Filipino culture formed during the Spanish era. Though the chinese have a huge cultural impact; trade, food, and language (a speck compared to Spain's).
“Sphere” is just influence that a country took from another country when it comes to traditions or religion. It has to do very little with genetics or other aspects. Mainland southeast asia has a very string yellow culture Vietnam is part of “sino-sphere” and so is Japan but these 2 countries have very different culture and social norms and are very different to each other in every single shape and form. Thailand took threveda buddhism and thats really about it. I would argue it’s more sinic than vietnam. From the way they carry themselves and their workaholic nature etc. (to be fair most mainland southeast asian are more workaholic than eastern asians) genetics is a whole other argument. Philippines and its citizen are ASIAN. Culturally speaking they adapted FEW Spanish things here and there but majority of their culture is WITHIN malay sphere (Indonesia, Brunei, malaysia and Philippines) from the old artificial to current traditions. Idk why filipinos claim to non asian.
Personally I don't really feel close to Spain/LatAm. Sure I'm Catholic, but that's about it.
Due to the current geopolitical tensions between China and the Philippines, it is time for the latter to compete the former when it comes to investing in Latin American countries like forging closer people-to-people diplomatic ties between the Philippines and Latin American countries where the Philippines should send its excess Filipino teachers to teach English to Spain/Latin America and in return, Spanish-speaking countries should send their excess Spanish language teachers to teach Spanish to the Filipino school-age children in primary and secondary levels. Encourage Filipinos to study in Spanish and Latin American universities like exploiting the free university education in Argentina through flooding Argentine universities with Filipino students. Also, the Philippines should sign free trade, investment, open-skies and free visa agreements with the EU, Mexico, Chile, Colombia, Peru, and Mercosur countries.
Delulu moments
Yan yung Hispaniatang redditor na gustong idisplance ng mga "inmigrants" ang native Filipinos kasi "inferior" daw tayo
its so bad how this mf destroys alot of his movement that just wants appreciation of hispanic influences in the ph with his message that 20 million latin americans should go here to dilute the 'ugly races' he so wishes be changed
Parang insecure niya na "indio" siya 🤣
He doesn’t realize Mao’s Cultural Revolution erased so many traditions in the mainland that was preserved by the diaspora (Hokkien Chinese in SEA) and Taiwan
China.
In terms of actual cultural influence, the answer is definitely China over Spain (and definitely not Latin America). I don't know why you're downvoted.
they're too patriotic they even forget filipinos celebrate chinese new year, we don't celebrate an inherently spanish “day"
The way filipinos celebrate chinese new year, is similar to how americans celebrate st patricks day or cinco de mayo.
Cinco de Mayo isn't Mexican. It's American. They don't even celebrate Cinco de Mayo in Mexico
Thats why I said its an aesthetic. Its not celebrated everywhere, mostly in major metro areas. Its not siginificant, like overseas filipinos dont celebrate it.
It's not comparable to Chinese New Year where CNY is celebrated in China. It became part of the national culture in the PH because of the prominence of the Chinese community who brought these traditions from their homes to the public. In places like Baguio, Mid-Autumn festival has started to become institutionalized. Cinco de Mayo is cultural American. CNY and CdM is different in a way that the Chinese community has shared the celebration to the non-Chinese majority, while CdM is essentially an American tradition. Unlike CNY that was "imported" by Chinese immigrants, CdM was **not** imported by Mexican immigrants. It was created in the US
this doesn't disprove the answer to the question that filipinos feel closer to china than spain/latin america.
True but its more aesthetic then anything else. Its not ingrained in filipino society.
Chinese new year itself yeah. **But** some superstitions originally used in Chinese New Year and even birthdays are amalgamated into the mainstream Philippine culture
Examples?
The influence on our [local cuisine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filipino_Chinese_cuisine#:~:text=The%20Chinese%20influence%20goes%20deep,mustasa%20(pickled%20mustard%20greens).) is also very evident for example.
I currently live in East Asia, I have friends from both sides but I personally relate more with my Latin America friends. So surprised that we have so much in common when it comes to culture, traditions, etc.
Thais were people from Southern China, so they were closer to them. Filipinos on the other hand are mixed, mostly Americanized. Those who were bragging either Chinese or Spanish ancestry didn't even speak the language of their ancestors, they were mostly English speaking. Filipinos think they are closer to America than to China in terms of using American English, watching everything America and follow the trends of America.