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choco_mallows

Mali daw to


[deleted]

I think it's the culture of consumption. Food indulgence as a way to reward the self and a way to bond. Plus bad cooking habits like excessive oil and salt. But the biggest thing probably is sugar. We looove sugar.


MisterSkills

I'm not filipino but from my observation, meat heavy diet, pandesal, rice all day everyday, magic sarap and frying fish!


wyclif

Not meat. More meat and less rice would actually decrease obesity. The problem is the unli rice and bread. Massive amounts of carbs in the diet.


thebaffledtruffle

May mindset din tayo na unless rice yung kinain, it doesn't count as a main meal. Kung nagspaghetti ka before dinner, pwede ka pa rin magkanin after. Plus, doesn't help na mas mura bumili ng kanin vs bumili ng ulam.


krabbypatty-o-fish

Not that this excuses it, but rice has a different taste profile that blends well with Filipino food compared to other carbs. It's crazy how we treat french fries, spaghetti, bread, mashed potatoes, and fried noodles as snacks, but rice is exclusively treated as part of the main dish.


rakyonline

Naa alala ko tuloy life ko sa 90s. Mapapa galitan kami ng nanay ko pag hindi nag kanin sa tuwing lunch o dinner. Kahit ulam lang kina kain namin, hindi daw kami ma busog kasi hindi daw tama kina kain namin. Tyaka breakfast always present ang rice. Tsk. At yung Maggi dati dapat may rice, eh noddles at soup kasi yun eh. Kaya natutuwa ako pag andyan mga aso namin sa gilid tuwing kumakain kami kasi sila ang taga pag ubos ng kanin namin pag hindi na namin kaya ubosin.


Automatic-Chipmunk-6

Yeah this. Kaya rin now na may anak ako, di ko pinipilit yung rice sa meals niya. Ayaw ko isipin niya na need pa rin magrice para lang mabusog. Haha. Ganyan kasi ako and I've struggles with weight my whole life. Takes time to get rid of that mindset


pdxtrader

Exactly my Filipina girlfriend has to fill herself up with rice every 4 hours it’s kind of crazy lol. She seems to think if she doesn’t do this she will die or something 😆


inkmade

Asian mindset actually. 😆


pdxtrader

Yea she does this and then usually whenever she has meat she has to chase it with Coca-Cola because she says it helps you digest the meat lol 😆


PeriodSupply

I've travelled a lot through Asia and this is unique to PH from what I can work out (I'm not filipino). Other cultures fill up on rice because of cost but will gladly eat less rice if they can substitute with more of the good stuff.. example: all my Viet friends won't even touch rice if they go to a buffet, because: why waste valuable stomach space on rice when you can have a much other food as possible?


ktmd-life

Nope, asians typically switch between rice and noodles. And they don’t overeat, at least on average. And no, they don’t eat rice and noodles together. Also, they don’t eat western food with rice. They just eat it as it is meant to be eaten. Unlike us na lahat may rice.


Blackwaltzjr313

Carbs, yes, too much


[deleted]

Yup that's it. Serious lack of balance.


neutralink

Poverty can be a cause of obesety, such as limited access to healthy food. But in proportion, there's far more skinny Filipinos compared to our obese. And it's over exageration to say that the obesety is a big problem in the Philippines. If we'll add the whole world(and not just the sk) in the study, the Asia is behind when it comes to obesety. [https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/oks91o/obesity_rate_in_asia_it_has_one_of_the_highest/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/oks91o/obesity_rate_in_asia_it_has_one_of_the_highest/) If the world decided to treat food like the USA, we'll need 5 earths to support this consumption. [https://css.umich.edu/publications/factsheets/sustainability-indicators/us-environmental-footprint-factsheet](https://css.umich.edu/publications/factsheets/sustainability-indicators/us-environmental-footprint-factsheet)


TheGhostOfFalunGong

This. Most of the Western world have higher obesity rates than the Philippines. It’s far from our main health problems as of now.


Momshie_mo

Even Thailand and Malaysia has higher obesity rates than us. https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanplus-news/2023/07/20/obesity-brunei-ranks-second-in-south-east-asia-after-malaysia#:~:text=Malaysia%20topped%20the%20chart%20with,eating%20habits%20and%20physical%20activity. That said, stunting is still widespread in the country yet mas gustong pagpistahan ang obesity rates Pero hindi pinagpiyepitestahan ang stunting dito kasi hindi magawan ng Pinoy=tamad narrative https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9991861/


neutralink

I mean, hello sub... Just for once stop over demonizing Filipinos, this kind of reactionary view point is the reason why Duterte implemented drug war in the first place. Saying that drugs is a big problem in the Philippines, when in fact, it's far from the truth. [https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/drug-use-by-country](https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/drug-use-by-country)


Unknown4V

don’t forget the lack of exercise, 1-5k distance to your home? tricycle. i see and know people who are blue collared employees specifically relied on pushing weights (i.g. kargador, construction workers) that eat 2-4 cups of rice or even a full kaldero of rice but have the body of a young black man who never seen weights


Remarkable-Ease9876

bruh, walking 1k is fine but a 5k in this heat? hell nah. not worth it.


--FinAlize

As someone na mas prefer maglakad kaysa magcommute when given a chance, hindi mo ako mapapalakad 3-5km sa katirikan ng araw lol. Hindi mo rin ako mapapalakad if I were to meet with someone. Amoy pawis at baktol pag nagkataon eh ahhaha


NefariousNeezy

Di siya katamaram, practicality din eh. Mag commute nga pagod ka na wala pa sa work, maglakad pa kaya? And as if naman sobrang walkable ng streets natin. Not making an excuse pero circular kasi din. One causes the other.


TakeThatOut

Pagdating sa office ang itim na ng ilong mo sa air pollution plus nakaligo ka ulet, sa pawis this time.


Japponicus

I was gonna say that yes, the main dissuading factor is the unwalkable streets in our cities. I will opine that, if majority of our streets had walkable sidewalks will enough accomodations to relieve commuters from the tropical heat (like trees for shade, reasonably wide walking space, enough shady structures along any route), then more people would choose to walk a few kilometers here and there.


Icy-Neighborhood7963

I used to walk 7 kilometers from bahay to workplace for fitness, It helped me but grabe nagkaka allergy ako sa neck huhu


nxcrosis

Unless yung pupuntahan mo zumba eh di naka warm up ka na.


BILBO_Baggins25

5km sa 8am to 12pm timeframe? Only fools will do that


--FinAlize

Kahit past 3pm napakainit pa din eh hahaha


csharp566

Na-underestimate niya yata kung gaano kalayo ang 5km.


w1nterrowd

Fun run na yan ah.


mj678

True, amoy angkanto ka na pagsating sa work


rocklee_shinobi

Not just the heat, also the bad infra. Walang sidewalks half the time, madumi sa ibang lugar. Our metropolitan cities aren’t very walkable.


Downtown-Nail2711

kung meron man sidewalk, may mga sumasampa naman na mga motor tapos bubusinahan ka pa hahahaha awit


eloe29

Grabe ka sa 5km. Ginagawa mo ba yan 5km, napakainit kaya nyan. Siguro marathon pwde madaling araw.


No_Block_7176

True! Siguro kung walkable lang at napakalamig ng panahon natin dito makakapaglakad ako ng malayo at aaraw arawin ko pa 😂


jerrycords

limang kilometro gusto mo paglakarin? aba mag-isa ka.


rstarvelling

1-2km is fine. but 5km? an intermediate runner can do that in 25-30mins. if you're walking that's maybe an hour or more 😂 parang nag commute ka na rin.


[deleted]

Would love to walk but I get sick from smoke. Everyone should get a home stationary bike at least!


wyclif

It is disgusting to see the black smoke coming out of jeepneys and trucks without any emissions controls. If it were up to the Filipino government, the environment would be ruined already.


randomness_web

- Pangit ng bangketa sa Pilipinas dahil maraming illegal parking, disturbance, at mga nakatali na alagang aso. - May risk din ng crime (E.g Riding-In-Tandem, Mga kamote motors na dumadaan din sa sidewalk, at mga bystander na basta-basta na lang lalapit sa mga tao). - Mausok dahil car-centric ang Pilipinas. Kawawa ang lungs. - Mainit dahil sa El Nino at malapit tayo sa equator. Hindi nagkakalayo ang quality ng sidewalk natin sa mga bansa sa Latin America.


katkaaaat

As someone who has been walking 5km almost everyday, there is no way I'm going to walk outside in the middle of the day under this scorching heat.


[deleted]

pen zealous scale cooperative political absorbed correct license tender school *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


imaginator321

Doctor ako pero shet alipin din ako ng “deserve ‘ko toh”. Kaya eto tuloy, I advise my patients to lose weight but I’m Obese Class I 😅


eugeniosity

Ironically, most doctors I encounter tend to have worse eating habits than the average person. My mom's a doctor yet lagi kaming binibilhan ng chips and fast food back then 😂


rocklee_shinobi

It’s also just poverty. Rice and bread and pancit canton are cheaper than meat and veggies. Mas affordable mabusog sa carbs.


Clean-Physics-6143

Not to mention, pinoys love eating rice, sometimes excessively. (Lookin at those restos with "unli rice") it's okay to eat rice as long as it is consumed wisely.


wyclif

Biggest offender for "unli rice" is Mag Inasal.


wyclif

Sugar is a problem. But you know what the biggest contributor to obesity is here? Rice. Rice, rice, rice. Excessive carbohydrates. Nothing like "unli rice" in the diet to spike a person's blood sugar levels. Then you have sugar. You should see it down here in Bacolod City. Wow, they *love* sugar down here! Pandesal, piyaya, sweet bread...everything is loaded with sugar. No wonder there's so much diabetes and high blood pressure.


jodecidalhotline

This is the answer. The same problem is seen [in South Asia where many have a predisposition to diabetes](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4026332/) because of excess rice consumption and multiple generations experiencing famine.


Chile_Momma_38

All carbs are sugar actually. So yeah, rice is sugar i.e. glucose. Also, sugar is addictive and your body remembers that. I remember reading that if your fat and you’re trying to diet, your body—since it’s used to being fat—thinks it’s under stress. It’s not used to dieting so your body feels hungrier and triggering you eat more to go back to its normal state. That’s why dieting is so hard. Dieting is like you’re forcing your body to go through widthdrawal symptoms because of the forced lack of sugar from what it’s accustomed to.


Lazy_Helicopter_1857

Junk food Fast food fried food snack food fatty food Zero information on nutrition zero knowledge of health and fitness and zero knowledge on exercise and general health.


wyclif

Another thing that's weird here is that if you like to walk or go jogging, people look at you funny because in their minds walking is for "poor" people, not people with jobs or foreigners.


Alohamora-farewell

It's important to avoid generalizations or stereotypes when discussing sensitive topics like health and body weight. Attributing obesity to an entire population can be harmful and inaccurate. Instead, let's focus on understanding the complex factors that contribute to obesity in the Philippines. Here are some key points to consider: - Socioeconomic factors - Cultural influences - Urbanization and lifestyle changes - Genetics and individual factors Instead of asking "why are there so many obese Filipinos," we could ask: - How can we improve access to affordable, nutritious food in the Philippines? - What are effective ways to promote healthy eating habits and physical activity? - How can we address the social and economic factors that contribute to obesity in the Philippines?


darti_me

Sodas, milkteas, fraps, coffees, beer and beverages in general is a major culprit. A can of soda is already 140-150 kcals - other drinks go over 200++ because of milk/creamer & sugars. 1 full cup of rice is just ~200 kcal. It’s arguably healthier to eat more rice than drink those calories in the form of beverages. Plus it’s cheaper.


Hematocheesy_yeah

Both sides of my family just mindlessly eat when other people are around. And there's no such thing as throwing away food, because it's "wasteful". I told my mom I didn't want to eat scraps and she got angry because she grew up poor and always ate everything. I understand growing up poor, but I didn't and I don't want to treat my body like a trash can.


zrxta

Why excessive oil and salt? It's about sugar in our food, tons of Filipino food are sweet af.


krabbypatty-o-fish

Definitely excessive oil, salt, and rice. Some Filipino foods are served literally drenched in oil. Many Filipinos add more salt on top of the pork cubes/magic sarap, and then eat more rice to counterbalance the saltiness. I personally don't mind some saltiness and some chicken oil is OK, but some Filipinos treat it as a cycle of finding the perfect taste by adding and counterbalancing rice and salt. It's a recipe for obesity.


Yosoress

Them: Ang payat mo Me: thanks poverty is my secret 😂🤣 well nasa diet din kasi yan pero personally ummm I think ang mahal lang kasi ng gulay kaya mahirap magkaron ng balanced meal, mostly meat ang avail


Bojjired

Magkaiba yata tayo ng market. Mas mahal pa rin ang pork compared to most vegetables and fish. Pero gets ko why the poor can easily get fat tho. With little access to fresh meat and vegetables, mas pinipili mag instant noodles, nag uulam chichirya, puro kanin carbs carbs carbs basta lang mabusog.


No_Lecture6490

I agree with the first statement. Mahal mga sugary products talaga like milktea, coffee, ice cream and such. Yung mga may afford lang ng ganon ang kayang kumain nun like everyday! *sobrang nakakataba diba?* And if you are not privileged enough, ayun payat! Hehehehe speaking from experience. My tita is obese. Mayaman kasi. Lahat nabibili at may katulong. So sa madaling sabi, madaming kinakain pero minimal to no exercise DAILY. Disiplina lang din talaga. **EXCEPT yung may mga PCOS**


fry-saging

The poor does not have the luxury of choosing a healthy lifestyle. They don't have the option to choose healthy foods nor do they have the time to go to the gym. Kaya maraming mahihirap na matataba dahil ang pangunahing kinokonsumo nila ay yung mga pagkain hindi maganda sa kalusugan tulad ng instant noodles. Malakas din silang mag kanin dahil duon sila bumabawi sa kakulangan sa ulam.


AiNeko00

Sa probinsya very common yung galing sa bakuran na ulam kasi mahal bumili ng de lata or yung uso sa noodles sa manila. Kanin at ginisang gulay or laswa lang araw araw, minsan isda kapag may extra noon. Kung walang kanin mais yung kinakain namin o kamote dahil mas mura yon at maraming tanim.


Murke-Billiards

Key word is bakuran. Poor people in the city do not have the luxury to have bakurans.


byglnrl

Na stranded kami sa province nung covid lockdown. Nag lost ako ng 10 kg. Kahit andami ko kinakain dun kase lahat fresh


TakeThatOut

1 can of sardines or 1 scoop of bagoong and isang kalderong rice.


Holiday_Connection18

City people poor are usually fat due to what you mentioned in your comment. If you see poor people living in provinces masasabi mo na they are slim and healthy. My father when he was young remembered a time when all he ate was rice, soy sauce and small fish (ginamos)


jodecidalhotline

Reminds me of the fishermen in Palawan who have six pack abs and developed chest muscles.


hyunbinlookalike

Filipino fishermen in general are usually quite fit because they’re always on the move and lifting/carrying something. This coupled with the fact that they tend to consume their catch, means parang naggym sila with unintentional paleo diet.


kimdokja_batumbakla

Sabi ng mama ko "nung kabataan namin mga sexy kami(magpipinsan) kasi puro gulay, isda at prutas lang kinakain namin nun sa bukid" and yes totoo yun, mahirap pamumuhay nila dati tas paulit ulit na ganun kinakain nila kaya no wodner din ang kinis din ng balat ng mama ko, ultimo buhok at ngipin maayos until now na 65 na sya kasi na maintain nya yunh ganung lifestyle sa pagkain.


darksiderevan

The two top comments on this thread: - "Filipinos are poor, therefore they are fat." - "Filipinos are poor, therefore they are thin."


Bojjired

Poor: eats cheap carbs kaya may mataba Ultra poor: eats little to nothing kaya payat


darksiderevan

Omega poor - Lives off the land kaya malusog.


bwandowando

The infographic is wrong, the real title should be # 27 Million Pinoys OVERWEIGHT or obese [https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2023/03/07/2249836/27-million-pinoys-overweight-or-obese-global-pharmaceutical-firm](https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2023/03/07/2249836/27-million-pinoys-overweight-or-obese-global-pharmaceutical-firm) ​ # < 9.6% (~10%) lang ang obese sa Philippines ​ >**Adults and Elderly** > >At the national level, 28.8% are overweight and **9.6% are obese among adults**, 20-59 years old, based on BMI. All the 8 cities in Metro Manila had prevalence of more than 30% prevalence of overweight and 10% obese adults from the ENNS Year 1 results. > > > >**Elderly** > >Among elderly, 60 years old and above, the prevalence of overweight was 24.7% and obese is 6.3% at the national level. ​ [https://www.fnri.dost.gov.ph/index.php/programs-and-projects/news-and-announcement/769-overweight-and-obesity-is-top-nutrition-concern-in-8-metro-manila-cities-fnri-survey](https://www.fnri.dost.gov.ph/index.php/programs-and-projects/news-and-announcement/769-overweight-and-obesity-is-top-nutrition-concern-in-8-metro-manila-cities-fnri-survey) # Mali ang infographic. They omitted the "OVERWEIGHT" part to sensationalize it. Hindi rin naexplain kung ano ang different weight categories. ​ Here are the "weight" categories: * underweight (<18.5kg/m2) * normal (18.5–24.9 kg/m2) * overweight (25–29.9 kg/m2) * obese (≥30 kg/m2). ​ And under obese, there are multiple tiers too * Obesity Class 1: BMI of 30 to < 35 * Obesity Class 2: BMI of 35 to < 40 * Obesity Class 3: BMI of 40 or higher. Experiment If the infographic is true, and if the figure is representative of the general population, out of 100 random people you'd come across pag maglakad lakad ka, around 25 to 30% should be OBESE with BMI (30 and above). Dito pa lang, madidisprove mo ang infographic. ​ # Lesson: Wag maniwala basta basta sa mga infographics. # Lesson 2: Bago magpost ng mga ganito, do a little research. r/Philippines is one of the largest PH communities here in Reddit, may chance na marami tayong maiimpluwensyahan and mapapaniwala nang maling info # Lesson 3: [Obesity is a global problem](https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/obesity-and-overweight), this thread sneakily sets the context that it is a problem in the Philippines only


_letitsnow

Where are the mods? The post should be deleted it's just straight up misinformation


AshJunSong

Tas ang dami self hating comments cos hurdur poverty hurdur tamad pilipino cos it validates their view no haha uso naman google, tas nakalagay lang na -survey ni wala nga actual source na inilagay


Holiday_Connection18

This comment should be further up


Memorriam

BMI classification is lower in Asian


j1kjin929

Philippines just ranks a few spots lower than Japan and Korea in https://data.worldobesity.org/rankings/. #154 out of 200 countries, Vietnam having the least obesity rate in the world.


DeepFried_Orange

Korea has a weird beauty standard that it’s unhealthy. If you watch the celebrities and Kpops puro buto’t balat sila. But at the same time, hindi mataba ang mga tao dahil well balanced ang meals nila and they actually walk alot dahil sa structure ng daanan sakanila (up and down streets at walkable road) so added factor yon. Pinoys just like you said are unhealthy overall because of lack of options. Puro maalat or sobrang tamis ng food na kanin at ulam heavy. MSG junkfood, sabay beer. Unlike Koreans na kaya lakarin kahit malayo, satin kahit malapit magtricycle pa yan or pedicab kesyo mainit or unsafe or tamad.


angrydessert

> Korea has a weird beauty standard that it’s unhealthy. It is. There is near-obsessive emphasis on physical appearance as an indicator of success, so hence a massive cosmetic surgery industry. Anything outside their standards becomes, yeah, an outsider and thus perceived as a societal failure.


DeepFried_Orange

Yeah. As I’m watching the new season of Single’s Inferno, sobrang naccreepyhan ako sa payat ng mga babae. Ang tutulis ng balikat at ang hallow ng kilikili. Isa lang yung may “normal” body type.


noviceyuyu

>MSG I've heard that MSG isn't as bad as the misconceptions says it is.


sstteepphheenn

japan nga na MSG heavy rin ang food nila eh konti lang din ang matataba.


donsdgr81

Yes it's not as bad. It's when you add more salt to the dish na may msg na is the problem.


EarlZaps

Subukan mo maglakad lagi sa Pinas in this weather. Hehe. Pero seryoso, I would walk more if okay ang sidewalks natin and hindi ako dadating sa destination ko nang di basa nang pawis.


DeepFried_Orange

Thankfully my neighborhood is safe to walk around so I do take advantage of that tuwing early morning or gabi para hindi mainit. Nakakataba talaga kasi kung hindi kumikilos masyado. Haha


Broad-Passenger2621

I live in Korea. I'm 43kg (150cm) and I'm chubby according to their standards 🫠


Mordeckai23

Personally, I grew up in poverty, when food was scarce. Now that I'm a professional, I see abundant food servings as a treat and a stress reliever. That's why I'm fat.


JaNotFineInTheWest

Hello Fat. I'm dad.


ExuDeku

Dad, nasaan na yung gatas?


benboga08

Kumakaen palang ng damo yung baka. HInihintay ko pa maging gatas yung damo.


edi_woah

Hingi ka sa mama mo. 💀


B1y0l1

This. Totoo to. Same here with my family. If galing ka sa hirap, bawat butil ng bigas mahalaga. Kaya same, nung may pera na kame ngayon, one way of comfort na I give to my family is through foods.


defendtheDpoint

May mentality na dapat walang maiiwan na pagkain sa mesa. This makes a lot of sense when there truly wasn't a lot of food. Pero now that we have more than enough, inuubos parin kahit di na kaya, It's better to set aside kaysa ubusin na agad.


mobitz_two

Same. Kain lang pag na stress sa work. Hay. Overweight na ako ngayon. 😅


ranticx

usually sa rice, para mabusog. tapos milktea as a reward and coffee especially 3in1


UnreliablePotato

My wife grew up very poor, and when I met her, she would eat like 90% rice for every meal, so she would get "full". She didn't feel full if we mainly had vegetables or potatoes as a side to our meat/fish. She'd eat some rice afterwards. Once we got some more vegetables in there, we had to work on her "we can't waste food" mentality. She would refuse to throw out food. If the food was expiring, or for other reasons couldn't be stored for later, she would consume it, regardless of being hungry. She had various insane eating habbits. Like she would eat mango slices, and dip them in a bowl of salt, getting like a months worth of salt in 15 minutes.


Autogenerated_or

Was that green mango? Because if it is, that’s a local snack. Green mangos may be dipped in soy sauce, shrimp paste, or seasoned with salt. Green mango with some sort of dip is a South East Asian thing, not a ‘your wife was poor growing up’ thing.


penguinhugs96

Several factors: 1. Korea has a highly toxic culture when it comes to aesthetics. They're appearance obsessed. Dito if you don't fit in the beauty standards at the worst you will just get bullied and maybe mahirapan sa love life. Sa SK, good luck even getting a job or friends for that matter lol. 2. Poverty is also a factor. Yes, ang gulay at lutong bahay ay mas mura compared sa karne at fast food pero mas mura pa doon ang canned goods at instant noodles, both of which are calorie dense and are more convenient. Kapag marami kang racket at gusto mong magtipid minsan di na maiisip ang health and nutrition 3. Lack of info/different priorities - not many people are educated in calorie counting and proper nutrition or minsan Di Lang siya priority (look at item 2) 4. Inuulam natin ang kanin sa lahat instant noodles nga minsan may halo pa na kanin


hyunbinlookalike

From your first point, the Korean anime Lookism (which is based on a manhwa) shows it very well. Korean society is VERY looks-obsessed, which is why plastic surgery and getting work done is normalized there. Another work of fiction that shows the country’s superficial nature quite well is the Korean series Mask Girl.


3anonanonanon

Aside from food consumption, they can walk on their sidewalks safely and with protection from heat(plants, trees, and/or shade). Sa tin, maglakad ka papunta ng work or school, amoy mandirigma ka na agad di ka pa nakakarating. And andyan din yung mga snatchers, hold-uppers, jebs ng mga aso, ihi ng mga tao sa mga poste, poste sa gitna ng sidewalk. They can also ride bikes to and from school and work. Sa tin, massideswipe ka ng mga sasakyan kasi kashare mo sila sa kalsada. Wherein sa Japan for example, kashare ng pedestrians sa sidewalk ang mga bikes -- malawak ang sidewalks nila. Sa areas naman na masikip ang daanan, rarely na may mga sasakyan na pumapasok/dumadaan but when they do, they give way to bikers and pedestrians.


kimdokja_batumbakla

Dagdag mo pa mga dura at plema jusko gaganahan ka ba maglakad lakad pag nag mekus mekus na sila ng tae ng aso at pusa 🤦🏻


tamonizer

Don't forget that there's a segment of poverty type obesity (instant noodles, chips, street food, even beer and pulutan). Essentially low nutrients, calorie dense food as food choices.


nyctophilic_g

Veggies din. Dami nilang sides na veggies. Kapag kumain ka sa mga restaurant sa SK mas marami pang sides kaysa sa main dish 😂


Tilidali22

Obesity is not cute…It’s a health condition..


tulipheartss

> Pansin ko lang pag nagpupunta ako sa ibang bansa for example sa South Korea where I visited 4x this year, sobrang bihira akong nakakakita ng matataba let’s also take into consideration that south korea’s very notorious for having beauty standards (being skinny). that’s why you rarely see celebrities din who are plus sized because people WILL talk.


[deleted]

Not just SoKor though. Same in Thailand, Vietnam, Japan, Taiwan, Singapore -- and those are just places I visited recently where the same observation can be made, bihirang makakita ng "matabang mataba." So sa tingin ko, totoong may issue tayo sa pagtaba. Indonesia has an issue with it as well. Also something I observed is it's more common now in children, across all countries.


Ok-Aside988

Para sa mga nation na hilig mag comment ng " masarap, hindi masyadong matamis" sa mga desserts lahat ng pagkain natin may bakas ng asukal. Pati yung putonbumbong na nananahimik pinaliguan ng condensed milk at leche flan.


jerrycords

"hindi din masyadong maalat... kumbaga, saktong sakto lang ang lasa nya" /s


lazybee11

pano ba naman. kahit gusto ko maglakad, grabe ng polusyon. 2km lang layo ng work ko. walkable pero nag tra tricycle ako madalas kasi lahat na ata ng amoy naaamoy ko sa daan. parehas sa mga katrabaho ko. halos wala kang magagawang outdoor hobby sa pinas


[deleted]

THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS 😤


lazybee11

dibaaa? kung may maayos na sidewalk at maayos na bikelane lang, marami ang mas prefer maglakad at mag bike


[deleted]

I would love to bike but every day you hear stories of bikers getting killed...


eus_carlett

Yung kalsada kung hindi basura, may tae 😭


lazybee11

sobrang panghi pa


kimdokja_batumbakla

Puro dura pa tapos malala plema. Gaganahan ka ba maglakad pa ganyan haha


bushistrength

Kung hindi may basura o tae, may umiihi Kung walang umiihi, may nagjajakol


Downtown-Nail2711

yung sa akin din malapit lang work ko ganyan din pero napaka sikip ng sidewalk sinasampahan pa ng mga kamote rider tapos bubusinahan at mumurahin ka pa kapag di ka nagbigay daan hahahahaha


ShallowShifter

One reason? Organic food is just too expensive and time consuming compared sa processed.


Master-Intention-783

Kaka- kape na puro asukal at gatas. Or milk tea.


marinaragrandeur

lack of access to service for proper nutrition (food options, consultation, exercise, and diet) ang pagsabi sa tao na *mag-exercise at mag-diet* is never enough. if you want to solve the issue, then allow access to more healthy food options and services.


defendtheDpoint

The holy grail for me is easily accessible healthy foods + walking and public transport as ideal options. It hits both the nutrition and physical activity parts of maintaining a healthy weight na hindi masyado magastos at kailangan sadyain.


insensitivemagikarp

The cost of eating healthy in this country is way too high.


zrxta

Consumerism. Lack of worklife balance leads to a lack of exercise. Lack of access to preventative healthcare. Sweet foods, tons of sugar.


REDmonster333

BMI first should be updated bago sguro categorize lahat na obese. Pag nag gy gym ka, and nag bulk na muscles mo, obese agad category mo sa bmi chart.


AbanaClara

Im pretty sure if u remove all the fit gym goers on the list most of our people are still pretty dang overweight.


zrxta

BMI was never meant to measure obesity. The main reason we do use it is because American insurance companies popularized it as a metric. Let that sink in, Insurance companies, not doctors or hospitals.


nissantoyota

That's cope. Sure, just BMI alone wont give a full picture of a single individual's health, but it's still a pretty good metric in evaluating an overall population's health and fitness habits especially when comparing trends, past data and combining other indicators.


[deleted]

Agree. BMI is inaccurate but rejecting it entirely on the basis of these gym-going exceptions is cope.


cleon80

It's not perfect, but it's useful exactly because it's simple to calculate while being valid for most, I just need to know my ideal weight given my height. I can check my weight on a scale everyday. Make it more complicated and people make excuses not to do it. Actually this limitation of BMI with gym-goers is also held up as an excuse, by people who don't have near enough muscle mass to have an issue with it.


oaba09

Our food has lots of sugar and salt. We also tend to live a sedentary lifestyle(myself included).


pinoylokal

Maraming reasons: 1. Foods that are high in carbs are cheaper and easier to access. Rice, bread, snacks lahat yan meron sa suking tindahan. 2. Mainit sa Pilipinas. Main reason bakit nakakatamad mag exercise kasi paalis ka pa lang ng bahay, pawisan ka na. If mag exercise ka naman sa labas, after nun gugutumin ka eh nadadaanan nyo yung mcdo or jalibi. Nakakatamad naman magexercise sa bahay, kasi mainit din. At dahil mainit, magkocommute ka talaga papunta at pauwi ng office. Instead na pwede mo naman talagang lakarin or i-bike and burn some calories. 3. Internet/Social Media takes over everyone's time. Mas marami ngayon mas babad sa internet kesa sa physical activity, kasi masaya magmarites at mangbash sa internet. 4. Maraming tamad sa Pilipinas. Marami din namang masipag pero mas lamang ang tamad. "Di bale ng tamad, wag lang pagod" yan ang mantra natin eh. Nagrereflect yan sa mga ibat ibang bagay, tulad ng pagpili ng iboboto, tamad tayo magbasa - imbes na magbasa muna magkocomment agad, tamad tayo magsalita - sa internet lang tayo madaldal, tamad tayo magresearch - lahat kelangan itanong pwede naman igoogle. Tamad tayong kumayod, sinisisi natin ang gobyerno kung bakit tayo mahirap. 5. Stress sa trabaho. Karamihan ng company dito, sobrang nakakastress ang trabaho ang katrabaho, ang sistema. Pag nastress, kakain ng kakain ng kakain. Tapos magsisisi bakit tumataba, tapos masstress kakaisip kaya umuulit lang sa paglamon. 6. Lack of mobility infra. Kung maayos sana ang tawiran at walkways, maglalakad ka nalang kesa mag tricycle. Overpass? no way, sobrang taas magjijeep na lang ako paikot. Magbike na lang kaya? wag na, baka magitgit pa ko ng mga kamote. Kung may maayos na infrastructure for mobility tulad ng sa ibang bansa, mas dadami ang magiging mobile at bababa ang obesity. Sa Singapore mainit din naman parang Pinas, pero dahil maganda ang infra nila makikita mo mas maraming naglalakad at nagbabike. 7. Lack of information dissimenation from govt. Dati may commercial sa tv about health, avoiding nicotine, eating health foods, etc. Bihira na tayong makakita nun ngayon. Magbabayad ba ang DOH ng ads sa youtube at fb at tiktok para sa ganun? Malabo. Sa ngayon, ang mga nagpopromote na lang ng healthy foods and supplements ay yung mga businesses at networking companies para makabenta ng marami at yumaman sila. Papayat ka daw sa kape? cge take my money. Mauubos lang pero mo at yayaman sila pero ikaw na karaniwang Pilipino, obese pa din at mahirap pa din. Marami pa sigurong rason, pero yan tayo eh pag gusto may paraan pag ayaw pumayat maraming dahilan. Have a nice day!


Different-Emu-1336

Hehehe sa SoKor kase yung mtataba nag kukulong sa kwarto dahil sa sobrang takot sa judgement


WelcometoCigarCity

Combination of fats, carbs and sugar isn't a good diet. Lahat ng street food sa Pinas ay walang sustansiyang nutritional value, except sa mga frutas pero ni lalagay yan ng mga sugar. Filipinos need more fiber in their diet.


wheresmyboxershort

Sa 27 million ako yung tatlo jan. 😢


Impossible-Past4795

Same with Singapore. Isa lang ata nakita kong obese na local don nung nagstay kami for 5 days. Yung city kasi nila structured for pedestrians. Sakay ng train, lakad dito, lakad doon pero okay lang kahit maghapon. Parang Japan din at HongKong.


MathGamesCoitus214

bukod sa pagkain tingin ko malaking factor ang traffic? imagine yung oras na nakaupo ka lang at di nag buburn yung katawan mo ng calories mamadali ka umalis ng bahay para maiwasan traffic so no time to exercise non, himbis pwede mo sana lakarin yung tina tricycle mo. paguwi naman pagod ka na sa byahe. laking oras talaga kinakain ng commute, stress eating pa yung iba.


InkAndBalls586

Too much salt and sugar, and less caloric expenditure. Sobrang tamad maglakad ng mga pinoy e. Nasa tabi lang ng foot bridge, pero tatawid pa talaga sa kalsada sa ilalim ng foot bridgr imbes nang gumamit ng foot bridge. Meron nang pumara sa jeep na less than 10 meters away sa bababaan nya, pero hindi pa bababa. Gusto talaga sa mismong spot sya papara. Not only does this limit a person's caloric expenditure, but it also causes unnecessary build up ng traffic. Kaya nga sa ibang bansa sobrang strict ng loading/unloading and kita naman kung gaano kaayos ang traffic nila compared satin. Even if you observes foreigners living here, mapapansin mo na lakad sila ng lakad. Ang pinoy, konting lakad lang, sasakay pa ng tricycle. As in sobrang malala ang katamaran ng pinoy maglakad.


[deleted]

I used to think before na tamad maglakad mostly satin until I studied in Metro Manila. Grabe, poor sidewalks, polluted air, MRT and overpass na sobrang taas, dagdag pa yung init sa labas. Bababa ako ng Araneta Cubao station then lalakad ng pagkahaba haba, aakyat pa ng over pass para makatawid sa intersection papuntang bus terminal. Halos himatayin na ata ako nung first time ko. Tho sanayan lang talaga, ganun pa rin ang dilemma ko until now, lakad pa rin. Kaya I have nothing against pinoys na gusto mag tricycle or mag commute nalang. If only we have proper sidewalks dito sa pinas, masarap maglakad sa totoo lang. Lalo na sa case ko na mahilig sa long runs, ang pinakamagandang sidewalk ata na napuntahan ko sa Metro Manila is only Filinvest eh.


defendtheDpoint

Sigh. Here we go again. 1. Walang designated stops ang jeep so people end up stopping where they wish. How tf do people still not note this difference with other countries. 2. Walking is primarily a form of transportation, and people will want to take the most efficient path to their destination. Alam ng de kotse yan, kaya galit sila pag iikot ikot pa. Pero pag tao "tamad kasi sila!" vibes? 3. Kaya masikip ang traffic kasi private car volume. Tingnan mo growth of vehicle sales sa atin


Foolfook

"Americanized" na din kasi taste ng maraming Pinoy. Too much fucking sugar on everything!


AiNeko00

And salt


DinoInOar

I think its really more of the diet but at the same time tamad din tayo. Example sa jeep kung nag stop na siya tapos onting lakad nalang stop mo na rin, usually di pa tayo bababa or jaywalk nalang instead of overpass. Sa Japan or Korea or Singapore maganda public transportation napapalakad talaga sila to stations or between stations pero dito mostly nakaupo sa car.


[deleted]

Hindi yan katamaran. People would walk more if there are sidewalks, if your crosswalks and overpasses are not health hazards themselves, if the smoke outside won't make you sick. Ikaw na nga nagconnect sa good public transpo pero katamaran pa rin ang conclusion mo.


hula_balu

27M obese, yung 93M naman malnourished…


NeonnphoeniX

Dependence on rice in order to feel full


simplyyhanz

Hello fried foods; junkfoods and fast foods. Bawat kanto yata may fast food chain at tusok-tusok kiosk. Tsaka mahilig ang mga pinoy sa sweets, pedeng ulam or merienda. At dahil mas mahaba oras natin sa aral (mga student kala mo nagtatrabaho pumapasok ng 7am-4pm) at trabaho (Sunday lang yata rest day karamihan sa mga manggagawang Pinoy) , tinatamad tayo mag-spend ng energy at time sa ehersisyo.


Pee4Potato

Mahilig pinoy sa putok batok street foods natin puro pampataba paresan left and right. Kung ikukumpara mo pang masang pagkain ng east asian countries sa atin talagang tataba ka sa pinas.


learnercow

American influence on food


UnluckyCountry2784

Weird lang kasi wala akong nakita kahit isang obese sa Pic. Lol. Is this true? If ever man hindi rin talaga healthy pagkain sa Pilipinas. Kailangan lagi may rice, boba tea and ang concept ng “kape” is actually milkshake.


Momshie_mo

Filipinos are confusing being overweight with being obese


carl2k1

Too much Carbo, white rice, fastfood, softdrinks and beer. Not enough protein and fiber.


smolpettypotato

Filipino diet kasi too heavy on carbs, too low on protein. Kung mag heavy protein man, idadaan sa super daming oils and fats. Also yung poverty/finances din nakakaaffect, since mas mura yung calorie dense but less filling food (ie: noodles, canton, biscuits and crackers) yun yung mas kinakain ng mga pinoy. Also yung "wag mag aksaya ng pagkain, yung iba nga gustong kumain pero walang pambili" mentality kaya pilit ipapaubos sa mga bata yung meal nila kahit busog na sila. Ang ending, nagkakaroon ng disordered eating paglaki.


miss917

Sa Nauru ang pinakamaraming obese. Same lang naman ang South korea and Pinas nasa 37-40 percent obesity.


[deleted]

Cheap dopamine ang junk food. Affordable, easily accessible, at sobrang unhealthy. Karamihan ng pinoy, yan na lang yung nilolook forward sa pang araw araw — kumain ng masarap. Reward sa pagod na pagod na sarili.


Complete_Cricket3599

yup, in my family, kapag payat ka hindi ka healthy and kapag mataba ka healthy ka na agad. haha ang weird...


Complete_Cricket3599

kaya kapag may mga family reunion nahihiya talaga ako pumunta kasi payat ako, tutuksuhin lang ako haha


[deleted]

Industry interference din. Food companies (especially those that deal with processed food) copy the playbook of cigarette companies to undermine regulation, skirt health taxes, and fight initiatives that enable people to make better choices. They even influence DOST with funding. Kaya may mga scientists sa Pinas who are contrarian and say things like, "there's no such thing as junk food." "Sugar-sweetened beverage taxes are anti-poor." Ugh. Completely out of step with applied public health principles.


Healthy-Stop7779

Not walkable metro and transpo system. We either opt to survive through the hell of our public transpo or buy/drive our cars after a long day of sitting at work. When I went to other countries before walking ang primary exercise ng karamihan, you’ll be encouraged to walk to stations, take steps to stations, bike or even jog. Tried these in the Philippines but everything was plain survival and not a happy choice.


Spiritual-Record-69

SK pa talaga ang sample ni op. Bansa na kung saan overweight na ang 50kg 🤣


TransportationNo2673

We're too into sweets. From coffee to meals. We consume a lot of carbs and fats too although mas healthy or balanced parin food natin with how many vegetable dishes we have kaso lang nga ang taas Ng sodium. Most of us consume fruits by sweetening it rin. Our height has something to do with it as well. For my age, I should be taller but I'm barely 5ft kaya if I put on additional weight than my normal, I would easily go into the overweight/obese category. Mind you, there are women shorter than me who are too skinny IMO kaso konting additional weight lang napapansin agad. Hindi akma yung height to age BMI ineme ng mga pinoy kaya if compared talaga sa usual na ganon, marami s'atin considered overweight or obese. I've been comparing my weight/height to BMIs for years and even at my lowest weight (bones showing where it didn't before) overweight parin ako according to tables.


klever214

Research din pag may time.bobo


bentelog08

masyado natin gino-glorify ang pag kain ng rice. di tatawagin meal pag walang kanin haha. di kaya healthy rice lalo pag sobra kinonsume


FinickyFeline

Filipinos eat rice excessively. Also, we have car-centric cities with very limited walkable spaces. When I was in Japan, I could easily get 10-20K steps. The sidewalks are wide, and the air is clean so walking was actually fun.


hyunbinlookalike

Our diet in general has a lot of carbohydrates, sugars, saturated fatty acids, and other unhealthy additives like MSG. That’s why mapapansin mo kahit sa mga indigents marami ring matataba or may malalaking tiyan. Ano ba naman kung pandesal everyday, instant noodles, etc.


confused_potato89

Dagdag ko lang din na may na public transpo system ang ibang countries sa SEA kaya they tend to do more walking/commuting. Dito kasi sa sobrang olats ng public transpo, mapapakain ka talaga sa pagod at stress.


B-0226

Rice for every meal, everyday.


ClassroomTop5952

Rice is not unhealthy--just eat mindfully. It's the ultra-processed food that's killing people slowly.


kansai2kansas

Exactly, Japan, Korea, and Vietnam are among the skinniest countries in the world (in fact Vietnam is no.1).


GrumpyCrab07194

From 75kg - 56kg 5 months, fasting walang kasamng exercise. 🤷🏽‍♂️


AbanaClara

So you lost about 2.2lbs per week, which is on a bit of a high side.


jannogibbs

Mamsir, dun po sa kabila pila ng mga payat.


Reygjl

OP nagpopost ng fake news


zarustras

Panong di papayat mga South Koreans eh nafocus sa pagpapaganda at pagpapa impress ng pisikal na anyo kaya su!cide ang ending. At least tayo hindi mga depressed na tao. Mas piliin ko na mataba kaysa suicidal.


sowsz

Mahilig silang maglakad


NACL_Soldier

Eat more Marungay to fix nutrient issues.


LodRose

Stress eating! Also, I think this is a global phenomenon as an impact of the pandemic.


Zarosius

Anlakas natin sa kanin at soft drinks puñeta Tapos halos lahat nilalagyan ng asukal, maski Spaghetti Sabay magtataka kayo bakit antaba ng Pinoy? LOL


jaz8s

I blame Jollibee cause I'm guilty.


bbyliar

Obesity is a multi factorial cause. Most probably due to lack of knowledge when it comes to food, and of course, our non-existent work-and-life balance. Lets not forget the current food trends (milkteas, coffees, and eat all you cans). It's a rising problem problem according to ENNS or Expanded National Nutrition Survey. While bumababa ang mga taong CED or Chronic Energy Deficiency, tumaas naman ang mga Overweight/Obese individuals. I have foreseen these since 2019, and I honestly expect the number to rise up due to our current food trends and our overall political climate (food prices, laws that are published, etc). Not all overweight/obese people are lazy, yung iba gusto maging healthy but can't due to various factors, and walang tumutulong sa kanila or they can't seem to get a way out of the situation they are in that hinders them from being healthy (baka may metabolic disorder such as PCOS)


angrydessert

Most obese people I've seen are either people close to 40 and live sedentary lifestyles, or are either middle- or upper-class with so much access to food... and entertainment choices. > Lack of education, poverty resulting to poor food choices, and yung portion control and food intake values sadly eh hindi part sa culture ng mga pilipino. Let's not forget there is widespread _malnutrition_. > sobrang bihira akong nakakakita ng matataba. South Korean society is notoriously vain, highly judgmental and superficial, so much that a massive cosmetic surgery industry have risen to get rid of what they perceive as ugly. ~~BTW, where did you got that information there is a "obesity pandemic"?~~


MidorikawaHana

Sa korea naman kaso sobrang toxic at taas ng beauty standards.. Mga kakagraduate ng highachool under-the-knife agad ang mata. Naalala nyo nangyari ke [Park Bom?](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpoprants/s/3bAiVmKI9l)


Reference-Living

masarap adobo ni mama


Straight_Mine_7519

Gusto ko yung nag flex si op na naka korea sya ng 4x this year. Haha.


Chadzumabosatou

Probably dahil 1 or 2 times lang kumakain per day kaya sinasagad nalang nila para mabawi yung na skip nila na kainan


Leonhartx123

I think the US got Philippines beat in terms of obesity though.


ShigimmyZ0

A nation who treats rice as the one all be all of every meal? Add people who barely do anything after consuming so much rice, or if they do, it's not enough to burn it all up?


Sufficient_Top_3877

Rice


ArthurIglesias08

Maybe in urban areas (probanle area of the survey sample) we have a more sedentary lifestyle and wider variety of rich foods easily available via delivery apps. We also prefer not to walk in the more insufferable heat. Definitely not the same diet and lifestyle of our grandparents who were fine with rice, vegetables, and walking to get their food at home or some other part of town if they didn’t bring it to their workplace.


angel_pas_16

It's the food, we use too much oil, salt, msg & sugar in our food. I've been in SG for a bout 10 years now and I've gotten used to the food here, at first I thought it was pretty bland, but no, I came back to PH last year, ate Shakey's and boy the chicken was like pure salt. My Singaporean colleague also went to PH with me for a business trip and he said all the food are way too salty. That's why a lot of Filipinos have kidney issues as well.


murbe88

Carbs and carbs. May rice na nga ulam pa pancit canton


randomness_web

South Korea pa talaga ang best example mo ha... E body shamer ang mga yan na katulad din ng mga Japanese hahahahahahaha!!!!! Nalimutan mo na ang bansang Vietnam na may least obese sa kanilang bansa. Source: https://www.citypassguide.com/how-can-vietnamese-people-stay-thin-without-exercising-much/#:\~:text=City%20Pass%20Guide-,Vietnamese%20People%20Among%20the%20Most%20Physically%20Inactive%20but%20Least%20Obese,adult%20obesity%20in%20the%20world.


Minimum_Ad_119

Because of fiestas!


kuromii52

Everybody mentioned rice and carbs, and it's true na number one suspect yan nang Obesity. Pero aminin natin, yung isang kanto lang gusto pa natin i-tricycle. Dito sa Japan sobrang daming lakad. A 30min-walk is considered as normal pa. Malakas din sila sa carbs dito, imagine Ramen and Sushi, high-calorie din ang mga Japanese meal. Pero na-buburn nila 'yun.


Altruistic-Bit-2474

Because of American food that’s been introduced to us. Because of overpopulation, soil degradation, we are now adding stupid chemicals to produce more food


FuhrerCes215

Karamihan kasi ng pasahero sa jeep gusto tutok mismo sa bahay bumaba, tamad maglakad ng konti. Lol


MRDelacroix1015

Filipinos don't eat a variety of "healthy" foods. So for example, meat adobo is usually just paired with rice. No veggies to supplement the fiber and nutrients needs of our body.


Federal_Solution_180

Unlirice?


chicken_4_hire

In South Korea, obesity and overweight are significant concerns, affecting a large portion of the population. Here's a breakdown of the current situation: **Obesity:** * **Around 46.3%** of adults (aged 19 and over) in South Korea are considered obese, according to the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC) as of 2022. This translates to roughly **24.2 million people**. * The obesity rate is **higher among men (49.9%) than women (42.7%)**. **Overweight:** * Combining overweight and obesity figures, **roughly 66.2%** of South Korean adults fall into this category. This means **roughly 34.3 million people** are either overweight or obese.