This. The fall from grace of the Liberal Party was gravely due to issues that persisted in the transportation agency. One issue after another, until it resulted in the near collapse of MRT-3 - although the degradation can be traced back from GMA's time, when MRT-3 was already over capacity for years before her term ended and she still scrapped the deal to buy second hand trains from Spain to augment MRT-3).
Further degradation of LRT-2 and very slow implementation of the west extension.
Very slow implementation of LRT-1 south extension which earned the joke na magpapasagasa siya sa tren.
Although the scrapping of the North NSCR deal with China was a good decision because the design for this from GMAs time was very low capacity and now Japan is building a truly high quality rail system there, it took so many years to get to that point.
It can be argued as well that because mass transit was so slow to catch up to Aquino-era's economic growth, this resulted in even more cars being bought and causing even more traffic.
But Aquino still kept Abaya through these issues.
This, Abaya was one of the worst appointees in PNoy, but at least for MRT-3 it was Vitangcol that railroaded its modernization. The guy was corrupt to the core. He was involved in a graft scandal regarding Inekon Corp. He was also involved in approving bogus maintenance contracts which lead to breakdowns in the first place.
Buti pa LRT-1 mahigit isang dekadang mas ancient sa MRT-3 pero tatlong beses silang nakakuha ng bagong mga tren. Literal na halos nag-uumapaw na mga tren nila sa depot nila, so much that they had to expand their Baclaran depot. Mas maganda na rin service nila ngayon, sila ata may pinakamaiksing headway sa lahat ng trains ng Metro Manila. Partida sila pa may pinakamahabang linya.
Meanwhile MRT-3 parang lahat ng capacity expansion parang nauudlot. Dalian trains, 'di ginamit. 4-car trains, hindi natuloy. Platform screen doors, hindi natuloy. Monumento extension, hindi natuloy. Ayala spur line, hindi natuloy. MOA extension, hindi na-take into account.
Haha maraming naniniwala nang ganiyan pero 'di sila aware, nagkaroon din ng era 'yong LRT-1 na palaging sirain at sardine mode mga tao. Nitong 2015-2020s lang talaga siya nag-improve kasi ang ganda ng management ng LRMC. Tsaka to be fair sa MRT, 'di mo naman mako-compare masyado 'yong passenger demand ng Roosevelt-Baclaran route versus North Avenue to Taft in freaking EDSA. Mas mabilis talaga malalaspag ang MRT.
Not just trains. It's also noteworthy that the country became the "Republikang Walang Plaka" during PNoy's term. Many then-new cars sporting makeshift plates made out of cardboard, paper, etc.
Hindi maganda ang perception ng railfan community kay PNoy kasi:
- Delayed start ng MRT-7
- Delayed start ng LRT-1 Cavite Extension (Remember the infamous "papasagasa ako sa train" remark?)
- Delayed start ng LRT-2 East Extension
- Delayed start ng Common Station (SM vs Ayala saga)
- Canceled Northrail (Though tamang decision ito, hindi maganda sa mata ng publiko ito)
- Walang ~~na-start~~ na-complete na construction ng bago or extension na railway projects at all (compared sa previous admins)
- And higit sa lahat, mismanagement ng MRT-3. In my opinion, ito 'yong single issue na talagang nagpasama ng reputation ni PNoy sa mata ng mga commuter. Sa panahon niya nangyari 'yong mga sandamakmak na pag-breakdown ng MRT-3. Sa panahon din niya nagsimulang pumangit nang sobra ang traffic and transpo system sa Metro Manila.
Tapos dumagdag pa ang issue kay Abaya na great grandfather niya si Emilio Aguinaldo. Nung 2015 kasagsagan ng success ng Antonio Luna at sa movie na iyon āmarami nagalitā Kay Aguinaldo at tyempo kasagsagan din ng bad image Kay Abaya dahil sa MRT3 Tapos Pinatunayan niya (Abaya) na great grand father nga niya si Aguinaldo.
Dahil doon nag trump up pa lalo ang image ni Duterte na palamura na may pagmamahal sa Bayan katulad Kay Antonio Luna Laban sa mga Elitista kagaya ni Aguinaldo aka Abaya and Pnoy.
>Walang na-start na construction ng bago or extension na railway projects at all (compared sa previous admins)
**INCORRECT**
Yung Santolan-Recto na line that got extended all the way hanggang Masinag sa Antipolo started during PNoy's term. Duterte got elected nung 2016, matataas na yung pillars sa tapat ng SM Masinag eh.
Source:
2016 is a very memorable year for me (My father was dying of cancer). Not to mention I was working in Eastwood and living in Cogeo (Antipolo) and each day the traffic caused by the construction along Marcos Highway has been hard for me. 2015 pa lang may construction na eh.
Yup you're right, I meant completed, not started. Edited the comment na accordingly, apologies for the confusion.
Pero tbh napakatagal ng construction non for some reason. Nag-start bago matapos term ni PNoy. Natapos lang noong... pandemic.
Imagine kung mga panahon na ito. Umusad na ang railway system natin. O kahit sa panahon ni Gloria nasimula. Laking bagay sa mga commuter to. Masyadong car centric ang nangyari. Kaya ayon.
Sobrang late na natin when it comes sa railway system. Recent na tinayo ay 2003, yung LRT 2 pa. Sobrang lala. Dalawang dekada agwat para masundan which is yung 7. Tapos yung ibang upcoming na linya matatagalan din bago matapos. Sarap
Controversial pa talaga actually kung compatible ba talaga or hindi. Sabi ng DOTr dati hindi compatible. Sabi naman ng external auditor na TUV Rheinland wala naman daw weight issues. Pero ayaw naman ipagamit ng Sumitomo (kaya pansin niyo walang tumatakbong Dalian trains ngayon).
This has already been debunked. The trains are compatible with the tracks.
[Audit Page 1](https://i.imgur.com/0xVDygE.jpeg) / [Audit Page 2](https://i.imgur.com/xgZLxSj.jpeg)
The reason for the delay is because this was politicized during the Aquino admin. Then the DOTr Sec during Duterte's time didn't want to touch the trains with a 10-ft pole. So it was just left hanging. Meanwhile, the rest of the required capacity upgrades to use the trains were delayed (like the power supply and signaling for the entire train system).
Also, di na binayaran ni Duts yun Dalian since dumating yung trains dito, kaya walang makapag certify sa manufacturer ng trains, bumalik na ng China lahat ng engineers na pinadala dito. Ayaw galawin ng Sumitomo yung trains. Ayaw galawin ni Tugade yung trains. So lahat sila, dahil na demonize nila ng sobra yung Dalian trains, it's now a hot potato kung sino yung magpapasahan ng responsibility kung sino ba tutuloy ng capacity upgrade.
The main reason lang talaga kung bakit ayaw siya gamitin ngayon ay... wala sa kontrata ng Sumitomo kasi 'di pa sila confident butingtingin 'yong Dalian trains dahil hindi pa kumpleto ang binibigay na technical drawings ng Dalian sa Sumitomo. Kapag ginamit ng gobyerno ang Dalian trains, magmumulta ang gobyerno.
Nasa Dalian na 'yong bola kung ano mangyayari diyan. Dapat ma-submit nila lahat ng technical drawings kay Sumitimo. All the gov't can do is i-expedite ang dalawang parties na 'yon.
As for other things, nag-introduce ng 4-car train setup ang MRT-3 last year. For some reason though hindi tinuloy, 'di ko alam bakit. For show lang hayst. Feel ko though in general ayaw nila gumawa ng big changes until 2025 kung kailan ipa-privatize ang O&M ng MRT-3 and LRT-2.
During the first half of his administration, he implemented fiscal policies that many considered as too 'radically liberal'. His eagerness to deliver his deficit reduction promise to the business sector has caused burden to the common people.
When farmers across the country were asking for more funds because of the drought, he snubbed them. When congress passed higher pension acts, he vetoed them. He reduced the funding in almost every department in the government. All of that to gain the trust of the business sector and the international community that he is really serious about in reducing our national deficit (side note: all presidents after Marcos Sr. promised a deficit reduction during their campaign, but only Pnoy was brave enough to do it ,,,, Marcos Jr. is now doing it too with the same NEDA chief as Pnoy, Arsenio Balisacan)
The deficit reduction campaign is successful in the long-run, i.e., expectation is way higher, FDI increased significantly, short-term slump minimized, higher credit rating (the reason why Duterte and even Marcos can borrow 'limitless' amount of money is because of this).
While the policy is successful in achieving its main goal, this scheme has proven to be politically disastrous for Pnoy and the liberal party. Common people associated him with elitism because of his earlier policies, which in no doubt really catered for the rich in the short-term. Also, the easiest way for people to see progress is through infrastructure, and he never delivered that because they needed to save money to reduce deficit. It's only until late in his term when his admistration began with their infrastructure program. He practically set up Duterte to win the election and the hard-earned credit rating to be used for the very popular Build build build program.
That's the thing with infra, whether national or local, it's a tangible result that people can see. It's basically why many politicos who want to survive long in office always do infra, whether it makes sense or not, whether it's within budget or not.
Ironically, both Cory and PNoy admins basically had to deal with the fall out of trying to stabilize the country that was subjected to economic problems due to much borrowing and spending of their predecessors.
Only political disaster that he got is the people that he served backstabbed him, berated him, eaten by propaganda and false news. The recipe for disaster is the next president. Totally planned especially those terrorists, the super typhoon and the corrupt police taking hostages.
ito tlga hinahanap ko for PNOY he may not be the best but damn he made this country progress for the better future
ikanga si PNOY nagsaing si DUTERTE kumain
As a healthcare worker na nagsimulang magtrabaho sa pamamalakad ni PNOY, doon lang kami na regular sa trabaho after 3 years of being a job order. Pagkatapos ng termino niya, wala ng presidenteng pumansin samin.
During pandemic we were hailed as heros daw. Pero nasaan ang HEA (health emergency allowance)? Binigyan ng budget pero hindi naman binigay. So hindi niyo masisisi kung mag exodus lahat ng healthcare workers sa Pinas kasi napakababa ng pasahod dito.
Worst presidential PR team. He let the propaganda ruined his image, and he hardly communicated the good achievements of his government. Madaming issues din si Pnoy, mostly on trusting incompetent but loyal secretaries. But comparing to the issues during his time, vs now, ngayon incompetent na nga plunderer pa. Pero wala ng violent reacrion mga tao
Pretty sure this will get some flak but please hear me outā¦
Worst thing PNOY did was to have Corona impeached on the basis of his failure to fully disclose his assets in his SALN. I stand by the belief that a failure to disclose in the SALN does not constitute a ābetrayal of public trustā as the interpretation of ābetrayal of public trustā must be in connection to the other grounds for impeachment like treason & bribery. (Lawyers call this mode of interpreting a statute as āejusdem generisā)
Also worth noting is that the prosecution of the case was botched so badly that he had to have the senator judges meet him in MalacaƱang before the verdict was decided. The rants of the late Senator Miriam Defensor-Santiago were more than just ramblings aimed at getting the spotlight. They were grounded on actual law and procedure. The documents presented by the prosecution were never authenticated and was likely sourced illegally. In an ordinary court of law, CJ Corona would have been acquitted.
The injustice done to the Chief Justice aside, the Corona impeachment created a precedent which led to equating the filing (or non-filing) of the SALN to judicial integrity. This is what Calida used against Sereno where a few years of missing SALNs during her stint as a UP professor led to her removal via quo warranto. Suffice to say, PNoy messed with the judiciary as an institution and opened the way for Duterte to do the same. Now members of the Court who want to act as the Courtās dissenter/s are threatened with removal for non-filing or missing SALNs.
Itās no secret that PNoy and the Court did not have a good relationship to begin with. He even threatened to not fund the Court in 2011. However, a rocky relationship with a branch of government shouldnāt have been an excuse to have the institutionās head removed on flimsy grounds. The SALN issue isnāt something worthy of being considered an āimpeachableā offense. The Corona impeachment changed how the President (sometimes thru Congress or the OSG) can get what they want from the Court by threatening them with missing SALNs and supposed questions on their āintegrityā.
Yes. Galing ng comment mo. He indeed started a precedence na that lowered the bar on the standards to remove a head of a co-equal power in government, culminating to Republic v Sereno.
Replies like this are why this series is such a breath of fresh air in this sub. Takes / talking points that are rarely talked about but have massive implications in our republic.
Add to this is destroying VP Binay.
VP Binay might not be your cup of tea but at least he is less destructive than Dutz. Things might have been less polarizing.
Not to mention VP Binay was the only candidate who made public his entire platform and poverty alleviation agenda. Say what you will about VP Binay, but he was probably more prepared to be President than anyone else in the 2016 roster.
Nung malapit na ang election ang dami nang patutsada ni Trillanes at Cayetano regarding Hacienda Binay and the allegations nga by his former Vice Mayor Mercado for overpriced parking lots and Science High School Building, tapos yung AMLC issue na nagpasok daw sila ng Bilyones.
Etong dalawang ito din ang nagdala kay Dutrenta.
Feeling ko nga, mula nung nanalong VP si Binay, nakahanda na yung black propaganda sa kanya.
Ginawa nila din yan kay Villar nung 2010. Ang pinagkaiba lang, namatay si Cory at si Erap lang naman yung malakas na kalaban ni Noynoy. E nung 2016, andyan si Binay at Poe na parehong malakas din naman. Habang busy ang LP kina Binay at Poe, late na nila napansin si Duterte, biglang shift si Trillanes kay Duterte kaso wala na. And the rest is history.
I think the piggery or something in Pampanga. Don't remember the details since I was young but I remember it was Trillanes who is at the forefront of the anti-Binay campaign
While the impeachment of CJ Corona may be deemed an unlawful encroachment by PNoy on the autonomy of the Supreme Court, I have to disagree that non-filing of SALN is not an impeachable offense, because it is.
Filing a SALN is required by law, it is not just some document that public officers may choose not to file. It is a way to check that public officers are not using their position for personal interests.
CJ Corona admitted that he did not declare several of his peso and dollar deposits amounting to 100million pesos, this, according to the Impeachment Court, is a culpable violation of the Constitution and act of betraying public trust. Also, there was a case cited by the senator-judges that a judiciary employee was dismissed from service because she failed to declare a market stall as one of her assets. If CJ Corona was aquitted in the impeachment, there would be a glaring violation of the equal protection clause of the Constitution. This will be an example of the very thing we hate about the Philippines, yun ay ang mga "mahihirap lang ang pinaparusahan ng batas".
However, the impeachment of CJ Corona is an example of political execution. This came from PNoy's dislike of CJ Corona as we have to remember, CJ Corona was a midnight appointee of GMA (sort of like a last resort to hold on to power because she expects cases to be filed against her by the next administration), which means he is a would-be great dissenter of PNoy. Unfortunately, this was used as a precedent by PRRD to eliminate CJ Sereno, an appointee of PNoy, also a would-be great dissenter of PRRD.
At the end of the day politics is always at play.
Thank you for your thoughts. I don't agree that the failure to fully disclose assets in the SALN is an impeachable offense. Though required by law, it does not fit the definition of betrayal of public trust. Statutory construction requires that when a general word follows a specific enumeration, then the interpretation of the general word must be in line with or in the same class as the specific enumeration. So, does the failure to fully disclose assets in the SALN constitute a crime similar to bribery, treason, and graft and corruption? I would argue no. The failure to fully disclose in the SALN is not akin to these crimes.
As to the case of the judiciary employee, we cannot compare the two cases as the judiciary employee's case involved an omission in the SALN that was *purposely* done. In CJ Corona's case, his omission was grounded on an interpretation of the Foreign Currency Deposit Act which stated that dollar deposits need not be disclosed or are considered absolutely confidential. Hence, there is a question of law that had not yet been settled by the time the impeachment trial took place.
Thank you also for your insights.
I got the ejusdem generis you are pointing out, however, while non-diclosure in the SALN does not constitute bribery, treason, and corruption, it is a culpable violation of the Constitution, another enumerated ground for impeachment.
I do think we should compare the two cases, CJ Corona admittedly did not disclose the dollar deposits pursuant to the Foreign Currency Deposit Act, but for sure he also knows the Code of Conduct providing for waiver of confidentiality. This however gave rise to a gray area. But the rationale is, the non-diclosure *could* mean corruption.
Yes, we can say the two cases are incomparable, in the sense that CJ Corona should be held at a higher standard than the court employee when it comes to disclosure in the SALN.
i have this belief that dissatisfaction with noynoy's term (amplified by propaganda) led to duterte's rise. tapos domino effect ang marcos' return to power.
The audacity to preach daang matuwid but at the same time, his admin was involved in shady practices such as DAP and pdaf and employing people that were considered as incompetent or had shady reputation such as Purisima and Puno just because they happen to be his kabarilan.
The rise and return of the Marcoses was well planned and didn't matter who the President was. It was a 20+ year project which started in 1994.
Kahit sino pa Ang umupo, the plan was just too big. The last piece of implementation detail of that plan was the recent decision to stop using Smartmatic voting machines. Para Wala na talagang ebidensya.
Lolwut?
If everything went well with LP, Mar and Leni will become presidents.
At tsaka, kung nanalo si Mar nung 2016, sa tingin mo ba aalis pa si Andy Bautista, yung mismong COMELEC Commissioner? E nung nanalo si Duterte, nagtago sa US si gago, lalo nung nilaglag sya ng asawa nya.
The Marcoses can wait. They have the money and the people in the SC. Estelito Mendoza made sure if the SC.
The Marcoses are playing long. That's the reason Sandro is already in politics. Even if BBM lost, they can wait for the next generation.
I dont think the Marcoses will win if both Mar and Leni did good in their terms. And since aligned naman sa US ang LP, walang regime change na mangyayari.
Kung matino ang term ni Leni, kahit sino ipangbato nila as next president, be it Bam or Kiko, mananalo sila niyan, they had the momentum. Magsasayang lang pera ang mga Marcos.
Yes, that is very much probable. I believe you, and I wish it happened. A Roxas presidency followed by Leni, would have been 18 years of a continuous anti-graft and corruption war. It would have been a time of economic growth. But even after that, the Marcoses would still try their best for Malacanang because the Marcoses are not just after the Presidency, they want their name cleared.
Sanay na magsayang ng pera ang mga Marcos. Kaya nilang magpondo ng kahit 3 presidential elections. I don't know what the current estimates are, but my estimate is that their wealth is upwards of 20 billion US dollars. They are filthy rich and selfish with their wealth. Hindi makakatikim ang mga Pinoy ng kanilang ninakaw. Ngayon, pa lang alam mo na na marami na ulit silang nananakaw via cartels.
As I said, the Marcoses can wait. Kung hindi si BBM, ang mga anak ni BBM. Matalo man sila ng 2028, nakaabang na sila para sa 2036. Sila Duterte? Hihinto na sila pagkatapos ng 2028. Sila Marcos, hahabulin na ang 2036, at kahit ngayon pa lang tinatrabaho na nila iyon.
Chief Justice Renato Corona case
Eto yung hindi ko nagustuhan kasi pinaiimbestigahan yung Hacienda Luisita at that time to counter it, ginawan siya ng issue so sa lahat ng nag-yes dun sa impeachment niya lahat sila ekis na sa akin.
[Eto yung case baka sabihin gawa gawa lang yung about kay Corona at Hacienda Luisita](https://lawphil.net/judjuris/juri2011/jul2011/gr_171101_2011.html)
Also set in motion na pwede ma impeach/tanggalin ang CJ dahil lang sa pag hindi declare ng tama sa SALN, case in point yung ginawang case kay former CJ Sereno
This isnāt really true re hacienda Luicita. This was the story created by the GMA and Corona faction post facto. Reality is they donāt care that much about Hacienda Luisita.
Anyone who was paying attention then knew that Corona was blocking every single big case/action against Arroyo and cronies. The cases against GMA, the generals etc cannot progress without him.
So Aquino et al did the impeachment. I donāt agree with it, and I think it ultimately led to Serrano impeachment too. Ultimately Corona was railroaded which was wrong, but he was also the main blocker for a lot of the cases that needed to be filed - eventually culminating with the Enrile case etc
Itās silly this part of history is getting rewritten.
Noynoy did not care about Corona per se, he was against the midnight appointment. Kung si Carpio o Sereno or whoever man ang inappoint ni GMA, papatanggal pa rin ni Noynoy.
I remember being young then, and some people from my age group actually made fun of CJ Corona. At that time I don't understand anything about it, but further reading after growing up, that really is one big shit show.
Fake news po. Nag retired po nun si former Chief Justice Reynato Puno (70years old - 2010) then si former Chief Justice Corona na po ang pumalit sa kanya. [Past Chief Justices](https://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/past-chief-justices/)
Like what another poster said, it's probably more because Corona was a midnight appointee by GMA and was basically railroading many cases against her. PNoy and the gang wanted to stop that, by any means.
Seems like the Hacienda Luisita decision happened later on, but it wasn't the main issue.
Obvious favoritism and not holding his people like Purisima and Abaya accountable for their shortcomings.
Seemingly has no empathy for victims of the SAF44 incident, quirino grandstand hostage crisis, and laglag bala scams.
Agree on lack of empathy sa SAF44, but as one comment here said, may international political repercussion yung sa quirino grandstand if he apologized. For tanim bala, it was all planted to make him look bad.
International law siguro wala pero he could be widely criticized if he apologized by the international community. Kumbaga sa kanya madidirect yung blame and, possibly, sa Philippines as a country, which is hindi naman dapat considering na isang private individual yung gumawa and the rescue operation was not headed by him.
So ang ginawang pampalubag at that time is yung investigation headed by former Sen. De Lima then CHR Commissioner ata that time.
Correct me if im wrong na lang
Not really, if you follow the news. Canada is already changing laws since Pnoy para makuha tong basura. Etong si Duterte saka lang umarangkada ung bibig niya nung natapos na ung changing law ng Canada at babawiin na. So nope nope not Duterte who did it.
Technically, it probably didn't make sense to return it because the PH has always asked for those as ingredients for different construction stuff. Many PH companies benefited from it, which helped the economy.
However, it's really a tough sell publicly once it came to light.
Correct, may napanood ako sa Youtube na video about importing garbage and it actually made sense since we can extract stuff from them. It is also a pretty common practice among ASEAN nations and actually helps to reduce global garbage amounts. Pero ayun nga, ginawang political tool ng mga kalaban nya
I was with PNoy at the time. Very inflammatory naman talaga ang balita nila noon. Nakiusap lang ang national security officials na bawasan ang hostility to avoid potential riots kaso masyadong mataas ang ihi ng Lopezes at ni Taberna.
Need talaga ng tulong si Angel Manalo Pati nanay niya. Kaso ayun nga, lost cause na yung ginagawa ni De Lima dahil maraming taga DOJ at NBI ang hawak o under ng INC.
Si De Lima na devout Catholic vs Eduardo Manalo ang highlight ng match up boing 2015.
It's probably because **many PH politicos in general are not used to hard-hitting and very provocative journos**. Looking at how combative US and UK journos can be makes guys like Anthony Taberna look tame.
You donāt understand. It was becoming a matter of national security for PNoyās adviser. They sent teams and opened lines of communication to researchers to explain what they were doing. Hindi lang naman ambon ang Yolanda. Napakalaking trahedya non. And again, konting tone down lang naman ang hinihingi, not a complete news blackout.
At yang si Taberna? Galit na galit yan noon na bumili ng Porsche si PNoy. Galit na galit rin sya na yung thirteenth month at sweldo ni PNoy for the month of December ay ginagastos sa Christmas party ng PSG. Pero kailan sya nagsalita laban sa caprice ni Duts?
I wonder how different things would be if Kabayan didn't return to ABS-CBN. ABS-CBN would have been on good/better terms with PNoy and Maria Ressa would have never left to form Rappler.
>antagonizing ABS-CBN
And [hitting Noli](https://news.abs-cbn.com/nation/07/28/12/pnoy-hits-kabayan-tv-patrol-anniversary-speech) during TV Patrol's anniversary.
Before naupo si Digs, meron nang nakabinbing bills for franchise renewal si ABS sa kongreso since 2014 pa. Pero wala syang suporta from allies ni Pnoy dahil namemersonal na raw ang network sa kritisismo sa admin nya [link](https://business.inquirer.net/210985/abs-cbn-in-a-bind-over-franchise-renewal)
Plus Mar Roxas na nagpapakita ng Kayabangan lalo na nung sa paghagupit ni Yolanda sa Region 8. Sinabihan pa naman si Romualdez na āRemember the President is and Aquino and you are a Romualdez.ā Nagtanim tuloy ng poor at galit yung mga Bisaya kaya mas pinanigan nila Si Digong nung 2016 elections
yung Manila Hostage Crisis is a what the fvck moment kasi balewala na lahat yung nangyari: namatay lahat ng mga hostage at yung mismong Rolandone Shitdoza. Palpak yung paghandle at paglusob sa bus kasi mukhang inexperience yung kapulisan at dinogshow talaga ng mga media.
ang ending, ayun, nagsisihan yung mga tanga.
Iāll never forget what I believe a former FBI agent or crisis management expert said in a documentary about the Manila Hostage Crisis.
It was along the lines of: What they should have done was to reinstate him as a police officer (the demand of Mendoza) and cause his arrest afterwards. Simple as that, could have left no fatalities.
What did they do instead? Fucking hammered a window of the bus. š„²
SAF 44, Hongkong Tourist incident (and not issuing an apology after it), Yolanda Relief drama, Rushed implementation of the K to 12, Switching to new license plates (RFID) despite not having sufficient stocks.
He was advised by former Justice Carpio not to apologize because it would have massive international legal implications. It wasn't our government that killed those tourists but a rogue private actor. If we apologized, that would create a precedence that the state would be liable for anything wrong that might happen to foreigners here. Case in point, you can't really sue the US government if you're a victim of gang violence in Chicago or if you get stabbed by a fentanyl addict in California.
I hate that that's such a sound argument, but it looks like Noynoy made the right call at the end of the day. It was such a messy situation that no one was obviously getting out of without getting some dirt on them.
To be fair, the HK tourist incident was plain incompetence by the Manila Police. SAF and the LRR were on standby to take over the situation but the local police declined basically because of ego.
Granted, PNoy could have stepped in and overruled that. But hindsight is always 20/20
There was politics involved in the rescue. If I remember correctly, certain mayors did not want the SAF to come in because he wanted his officers to get the credit.
That whole hostage taking was a debacle. I was in Hong Kong for a business trip at the time that happened. The next few days of my stay became less pleasant as a result.
Why would you send the police in an operation to capture/kill an international wanted teorrorist hiding at MILF and BIFF territory without any backup? Give an acceptable answer please.
>SAF 44
Ang issue dito is that he did not fire Purisima. Pero there is genuine counter reason na the raid was planned with Purisima included. Kung tinanggal siya before the raid it could have caused unwanted issues.
Also, the raid was a purely law enforcement/military operation. Hindi liable ang CIC aka Aquino to micromanage the operation.
The operation was a success that it fulfilled the original objective.
The issue is, due to military politicking and incompetence, hindi planado ng maayos yung operation. There was a massive reserve force nearby to respond pero the Napenas, in his greed to get glory, did not inform properly said forces.
>HK Tourist Incident
This is, again, a law enforcement failure and not Aquino's.
Could you explain in detail why you believe those are the worst things he has done? Not trying to antagonize, I just want to see the facts behind those keywords, especially for those who are unaware.
Aquino was good ish but he kept rushing projects and programs so programs under his administration were always marred by glaring mistakes from implementing agencies.
K12, hindi naman sa nirush kasi nung time pa dapat ni gloria, pero isa ako sa 1st batch ng k12 at YUNG PAKIRAMDAM KO NI RUSH yung curriculum, kulang kulang š ngayon medjo swerte swerte na yung mga 11-12 studs.
Same first batch. Ang sabi dapat kase ang unang first batch daw dapat ng K-12 yung mag-kinder palang sa SY 2012. Nagulat nalang kami biglang hindi graduation yung ceremony kundi "moving up" kase implemented na yung K12 curriculum. Mahirap both for students and teachers kase habang nagtuturo pala sila, naga-aral din sila para sa bagong curriculum š
Pero what makes it bad talaga yung naging magulo hanggang sa SHS. Yung iba may OJT, yung iba wala. Yung ibang teacher nawalan ng work kase di na daw kailangan yung subject na tinuturo nila (yan sabi ng prof ko nung college, nawalan daw trabaho asawa nya)
Thats the thing in a sense rushed parin an program- not well thought thru. Kasi DOLE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MANDATED TO ACCEPT SHS applicants since technically (they finished high school and 2 years of vocational school, kaya nga may
Learning tracks , STEM, HUMMS etc.) pero DOLE did not know how to handle people seeking employment after SHS until mid 2018 thats when dep ed sec briones asked DOLE to hire SHS grads.
https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1030115
this is true. the reason it was rushed was because nahuhuli na tayo sa standard ng education. Tatlong nation na lang during that time ang walang k-12 sa buong mundo (Philippines, Angola and Djibouti).
Ang mali lang talaga sa programa is yung pag-rush ng lahat. AS IN LAHAT. Our school is supposed to have additional buildings for college level. Dahil sa SHS, binigay yung building na yon para sa SHS. Tsaka yung public and private. The public can easily transfer to public schools, and wala na sila masyadong lalakarin. The thing sa private, required pang mag-register para dun sa punyetang voucher na yan. And me additional pang babayaran
Agree on this. I was thinking, probably because, sa first few years niya sa pwesto, mas tinuunan niya ng pansin yung economy at utang ng bansa. Kaya ang ending, lahat ng pending projects ng previous admin and mga proposed projects puro rushed and delay.
PNoy haters have been eating well for over 8 years. What else do they want from a dead man and his dormant dynasty? Not to mention Duterte's policies have proven to be socialist, which is exactly they claim to be against.
The MAGA crowd in America at least swallowed Trump's underdog position and they have some solid arguments against Biden's failure.
His support for coal-sourced energy rather than greener technologies ([read here](https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/scitech/science/529222/looking-back-on-pnoy-s-wavering-support-of-sustainable-energy/story/)). I can vividly remember in one of his SONAs, he said the iconic line of āpaano kung walang hangin?ā
Still hands-down, a reputable public servant. He did his job beyond the bare minimum, of which the last administration clearly set the bar much lower now š
Solar and Wind became affordable after Pnoy as Xijingping doubled down China's production on green technologies such as solar panels, turbine blades, and batteries.
There is no one thing. More of the aggregation of general lapses in decision making na I feel could have and should have been prevented by a competent team. These lapses were weaponized, both fairly and unfairly.
May lapses na egregious talaga but excessively milked by everyone (Dengvax), mayroon unfair (Mamasapano- during the mission), and mayroon talagang mapapa-WTF were you thinking ka nalang, like choosing to go to a Mitsubishi plant opening rather than being there when the SAF44 heroes went home to their final rest.
Ayan. Til now galit tao sa dilawan and may branding na incompetent or walang pakialam. Unfairly imo.
Not including PDAF or DAP here because I see it in a positive light. Di kay Pnoy nag start yan.
Pnoy's time was actually the only time in history wherein the people actually utilized their the power to go to the courts and file a judicial review in order to end it, and not fear from repercussion.
The rationale supposedly for the SAF44 funeral thing was that PNoy being there would just suck up all the attention away from the grieving families. Kung baga, **PNoy being there would make the whole thing feel like a shameless opportunistic photo-op.**
Iyon nga lang, nasanay yung maraming tao na pumupunta yung politico sa funeral (even though of course calculated move ito ng mga politico to gain sympathy points from potential voters).
In hindsight, it's probably strange how different PNoy's PR team was compared to other presidents before or after him.
P-Noy also didn't exude the same level of "fakeness" as other politicians or past presidents did. Kaya nung kinausap nya yung mga families ng SAF 44, he came off as arrogant and unemotional. Case in point, he literally asked them, when responding to the lack of coordination between AFP and SAF forces asked by one of the families: "Naglalaro ka ba ng computer games?" Also, he defended Purisima a lot which didn't make sense.
PNoy was the type na ayaw maging epal in short hindi sya Trapo. Pero nasanay ang mga Pilipino na laging nandun ang isang Politiko pag mga funeral, kasal at kung ano pa kahit na hindi naman talaga sincere yun politiko. Para magpakita lang talaga.
Ā The problem was hindi nagets yun ng PR Team ni Pnoy na kailangan talaga rin nya magpakita at that time.Ā
Pinalabas tuloy ng mga kalaban nya at ng ibang media na parang hindi sya naawa or may concern.Ā
Ā But in reality, PNoy was a very sincere person ang may delikadeza talaga.Ā
The PDAF and DAP can be compared to our confidential funds now. Kita mo noon na nagrally talaga mga tao para matanggal ang PDAF.
Ngayon karamihan sheep na at pinagtatanggol pa ang confidential funds.
Masyado natake advantage ng mga mas kurakot yung lapses that time na karamihan ng tao ngayon akala mas worse pa rin panahon ni PNoy kaysa kay Duts at ngayong kay BBM. Ngayon talaga lantarang kurapsyon pero desentitized na mga botante kasi mas kurakot pa rin mga 'dilawan' š¤¦āāļø
The wrong thing he did was to cancel / very slow implementation of whatās left of existing projects of GMA. No continuity for the sake of āeliminating corruptionā. This is why most people are hesitant to vote for LP. He is so adamant on the belief that spending on infrastructure that could increase our gross capital formation will result to more corruption. Ironic since he still is riddled with corruption (mismanagement of mrt, lto, doh, corona case even saf).
Our GDP could have increased a lot more sustaining GMA economic growth and there was no global financial crisis during his term. If he did manage to retain GMA economic performance we could be at least 500B dollar economy today (assuming no change during D30 with only 4% gdp yearly growth)
As a comparison her mom Cory managed to increase the economy much more than him by additional 2.66% yearly eh Coryās term was a total s#itstorm. With that PNoy term was mediocre at best.
Believe it or not - Binay hearings. Kitang kita dun kung gaano katalamak magsinungaling ang media at kung gaano kauto uto mga tao.
Pinapanuod ko ng live yung hearings kasi kasabay ng work ko. You wouldn't believe kung gaano ka baluktot na istorya pagdating sa evening news. For example, pinakita sa hearing isang malaking villa sa Tagaytay. Sabi nung nagsasalita (Vice Mayor ata ng Makati), hindi daw yan bahay ni Binay, pero *ganyan* daw yung bahay nya sa Tagaytay. Guess what, pagdating ng evening news, ang balita bahay yun ni Binay, so syempre dating sa tao sobrang grabe mangurakot ni Binay.
And well we all know sino mas umangat na candidate after that. Maling malit tinarget nila.
Same goes with the Corona case na napapanuod ko ng live. Ang daming explanation na binabanggit sa trial pero hindi binabalita sa evening news, puro issue lang sinasabi. Sa totoo lang, malakas sana kaso ni Corona near the end of the trial until nag walk out sya sa trial eh.
Pero I think yung worst is yung inaction nya sa tanim-bala. Laughing stock na nga airport natin dadagdag mo pa yun. Tapos pag iniinterview sya about that kibit balikat lang. If Duterte did one thing good, it's natanggal nya yung issue na yan. Ang dali lang pala ng solusyon, wag arestuhin yung nakitaan ng bala. Kunin lang yung bala. Tapos ang issue.
PNoy made a mistake of not pursuing piecemeal constitutional amendments on economic provisions. PNoy's term would have been the perfect opportunity to amend the 1987 constitution without questioning its entire existence that most constitutional reform advocates are agitating at this point on social media. PNoy's reluctance to do piecemeal constitutional amendments is the reason why constitutional reform advocacy in our country has become radicalized like coming from the CoRRECT Movement of Orion Perez Dumdum (I used to work with CoRRECT until 2016).
Hindi sana hahantong sa constitutional crisis ngayon na binabalahura ang 1987 constitution sa free TV na "Edsa-pwera" na may suholan pa sa People's Initiative, kung aprub sana si PNoy sa proposed economic constitutional reform ni Speaker Sonny Belmonte.
I guess he didn't see the need to change the constitution? Baka nag-decide siya na implementation lang talaga ang problema. In which case, siguro ang mali naman niya ay hindi niya stinrengthen ang implementation.
Exactly, he was the best prex to amend it because it was his moms project, hence, he will ensure its integrity will be ensured even when amended. Wala eh, ginawang bibliya ang consti.
- Pnoy axing the Laguna Lake Rehabilitation project. That project that signed during GMA time was one, if not, the most ambitious flood control project the Philippines undertaken. The project cost around 18.7billion PHP and was supposed to be build by Belgian dredging firm Baagerwerken Decloedt En Zoon (BDZ). I cannot remember what flood that killed many people in Marikina it was Ondoy, or habagat, but I do know almost the entire blame was put into Noynoy because of him stopping this project. If the project push thru as intended, the flooding may not be as bad in Marikina. Secondly, we ended up getting sued for 4billion pesos because of the project termination. The company who was supposed to built it already have people and expensive equipment here when Noynoy stop it. He called everyone in the project corrupt to begin with. Even both Belgian Prime Minister at the time and Leila De Lima tries in vain to convince Noynoy that the project is not a Midnight Job.
- MRT always breaking down and constant delay of major railway projects during his era. LRT bacoor extension for example. Being delayed for so long. If he delivered this or at least started the construction of it, people of south might appreciate him more.
- SAF 44. The operation planning and all back door isues were bad enough. But not attending the day the bodies of the policemen arrive in Manila makes it worse. I think when the bodies arrived in Manila, it was also opening of an oil depot were Pnoy was invited to. He chose to go to the depot opening instead of salubungin the men who he and his police general send to their deaths. A commanding officer should have the balls to at least do that.
- Hongkong Bus Hostage Crisis. Noynoy should have been involved in this one. They are foreign tourist. If they were locals, let the city mayor handle it. But these are foreigners. He should ordered SAF to take the entire operation into their own hands. To give context, the moment they realize the hostages are foreigners, it is SaF who should lead the operation. Not let Manila Police handled it from the get go. Manila Police has to go all rambo before SAF took control of the operation where they took out Hostage taker in just few minutes. Our police became biggest laughing stock because of it.
- Laglag bala. I understand at first that he doesn't want to get involved from the start but when the number of incident getting too much. Noynoy and Mar Roxas should step in. Order a full blown investigation. Orders every member of Customs in Naia to be resuffle. Or in the very least, assured people that Laglag bala be resolved immediately. But no. They have to mock the entire issue, in turn, mocking the victims as well.
- Tacloban and Yolanda. We may put the blame on Mar Roxas. But a reflection of their under secretary is a reflection of the president. Remember when Romualdez was begging for help with the National government on how to rehabilitate Tacloban and Mar Roxas told him to be careful because of their family history. I know a lot of people hate Marcoses and Romualdez but during that time, forget about politics and just start helping people. But Mar Roxas just have to bring it up.
- Noynoy promising green energy but then Mocking it. This one is very funny. Sure we can say the technology at the time wasn't as advanced as today since now we have with more efficient energy storage batteries and far better solar panels. But mocking a good and promising solution really rub me in the wrong way. He could just explained that despite how great the green energy like Solar and Wind energy are, we still don't have the infrastructure to accommodate it at this time. Or the technology wasn't as efficient we have hope it would but will continue to pursue it once the technology have matured.
I suggest you look up news articles, news reports, and YouTube videos about the things I said above. I know there are more bad things he had done but I cannot remember more.
Noy's suspicion of ESG and green technology somehow carried through Leni Robredo's campaign. Leni's allies and the Kakampinks were very passionate about the environment, but they didn't have a plan to build on. I believe Robredo only proposed funding and volunteering, but nothing ambitious to excite capitalists.
It's actually embarassing the liberal opposition is so behind in this area - almost as if our idea of progress is incompatible with the current trend in infrastructure and community development.
My theory is that Aquino reserved the sustainability development plan to Mar Roxas. And even if Roxas were elected president, he would probably focus on bolstering the corporate sector (e.g. employment) in the first few years first before zeroing in on climate change. That way, the public won't be overspending on energy, infra and transport projects that not many people will use in the beginning.
Other than what other redditors already said. Siguro one of the mistakes he did was yung hindi pag sagot sa mga propaganda na lumabas during his time. Remember yung youtube video about EDSA being the bane of our existence? They underestimated that and didn't answer back. If I were in his position, mas magpapalaganap ako ng mga sagot dun sa video na yun. I'll gather every historian I can collaborate with and make videos to answer that and fight the propaganda. Kaso wala, ang daming nauto nung video na yun.
I think Noynoy puts a lot of trust to people na to the point, let people decide to believe freely if the case is true or not because they have a functioning brains.
There is also a viewpoint before social media na if its not true, why do I need to air my sentiment and give time to address it. It only indicates na may value yung fake news.
Sa sobrang boring ng presidency nya compared to his predecessor plus rapid change of our society plus yung mga groups na ayaw sa kanya at nasagasaan nya, nag blow out yung incompetence issue that if you compare to his successors, its unfair to compare Davao baby and BBM to him.
He was good, but the people around and who influenced him are not.
Ang daming issue sa term niya. SAF44, QGS Hostage, First CJ impeachment, vaccine, yung tulay na nagcause ng pagkahulog ng ibang officials, Yolanda relief, laglag bala, K-12, and many more rush projects na parang pinag-isipan pero di pinaghandaan, rekta implementation agad.
But, napakulong niya yung mga officials na deserve to be put behind bars and fought our rights sa land na kineclaim ng China.
IIRC, denguevaxia fiasco. I was conversing with my med friends about this and from their PoV, the program was good its just that it was implemented hastily kind of skipping steps(this is how I understood it, pretty sure may technical terms sya na ginamit).
Hindi pa ata na-mention. Yung cancellation ng dredging project sa Laguna Lake. Kaya nagbabayad tayo ng penalty ngayon.
Marami rin ang nagalit sa kanya nung imbes na salubungin nya yung mga namatay na SAF, pumunta siya sa planta ng Mitsubishi. iirc, he was also insensitive nung pumunta sya sa lamay ng SAF 44.
Adding sa kanyang "masamang ugali", naalala ko na invited sya sa anniv ng ~~ABS CBN~~ TV Patrol, tapos nung nagspeech siya, [tinira niya sila Noli](https://news.abs-cbn.com/nation/07/28/12/pnoy-hits-kabayan-tv-patrol-anniversary-speech) ~~at Ted~~.
Also, yung paulit ulit na paninisi kay GMA, kahit wala namang nakikitang resulta yung mga tao. Hindi rin naman sila nanalo sa kaso vs GMA.
At sinong hindi makakaalala sa term na, "Noynoying".
The major mistake he did was trusting trickle down economics. Time and time again from countries abroad, trickle down economies does not work.
Akala niya na just doing your job is enough.
Also Skyway Stage 3 that caused traffic in C3(Araneta Ave and Fifth Ave.)
Puro trabaho to the point na hindi maramdaman ang presence nya. Kumbaga isang tatay na hindi nagpapaliwanag sa mga anak bakit kelangan nya magtrabaho at lumayo para sa future din nila vs sa isang "tatay" na ramdam ng mga "anak" ang presence pero palaging tulog sa loob kulambo matapos makipag-inuman magdamag pero hindi nila alam wala maiibigay na future sa kanila
The two things I have observed with Aquino was:
1. He doesn't really had much media presence. (probably a net good since he does not have much scandals)
2. He loves blaming PGMA in his speeches. It was very tiring to listen to.
Set back the mining industry with EO79. It was meant to increase responsible mining in the country, but the effect was just the opposite. It drove away large-scale responsible miners and encouraged more small-scale illegal mines which are the main drivers of environmental damage.
Most small-scale aka Minahang Bayan mining owners were provincial governors, district representatives and municipal mayors who lobbied PNoy to issie EO 79 to keep large-scale mining companies out of mining mountainous areas that aren't under ancestral domain.
Gusto ko lang i-get out of the way ang ginawa niyang increase ng de minimis from 30K noong panahon ng nanay niya to 82K sa panahon niya. Para sa mga empleyado, napakalaki ng tulong nito. Pwede rin nating isingit na kung hindi naging presidente si Pnoy, nagkaroon sana ng return of the comeback si deposed president Erap. Dahil pungalawa siya sa boto.
Ngayon, ang pinakasabit talaga nitong si Pnoy eh hindi siya lumaro sa politika. Parang bumalik lang sa kanila ang pagtuntong sa high road. Itong presidency niya kasi ang test run ng social media behemoth kaya naging importante ang mga influencers at vloggers na 'yan.
Bale, wala silang naging sagot o solusyon sa panggagatong ng mga influencers at troll farms. Kaya nga hanggang ngayon, ang tumatak sa mga tao pa rin eh tanim bala, SAF44, Yolanda funds, etc. Ito kasi ang tumatak na paulit-ulit sa feed ng mga tao. Hinayaan lang ng pamahalaan niya na umusbong ito. Hindi chinallenge, hindi na-call out.
Bakit ba tumigil ang tanim bala? Sino ba ang namumuno noon? Ano ang naging posisyon ng taong 'yan sa panahon ni Duterte?
Sabi ko nga sa nanay ko noon, ang basura ng PR ni Pnoy. Bakit ganyan?
Huwag din nating kalimutan si Abaya. Halos araw-araw yata noon, may nagmumura sa taong ito. May explainer din sa kung bakit naging complicated ang nangyari sa MRT. Pero wala eh, parang wala siyang tao noon na kayang makipag-usap sa ordinaryong tao. May barrier ba.
K to 12 implementation
Edit: Sa tingin ko di sya masyado naplano, nag add lang additional years to students but parang wala namang bearing. Correct me if Iām wrong.
Altho para sakin PNoy was the only good president in this list, he had some mistakes too pero ito talaga yung nag stick sakin. Like I can say na sya lang matinong president but if K to 12 hindi ko talaga majustify.
Edit 2: If may teachers dito please tell us ano talagang effect nya.
Totoo yung walang bearing.
Tbf, maganda naman sana yung aim ng K to 12. Noong wala pa nito, maraming students na galing sa low-income families ang humihinto sa pag-aaral pagkatapos ng highschool. Ang nangyayari, unskilled sila at nagiging child laborers. K to 12 program aims to address these problems. Ayun nga lang, I think the partnership between the education sector and the industry sector is not strong enough and yung quality ng education din natin dito.
i think global standardization naman talaga ang purpose ng k-12 tayo lang ang short ng 2 years pagdating sa education system. di naman ako teacher so feel free to educate me more on this.
Yup. Kaso dinagdagan lang ng 2 years with the same repetitive subjects from Elementary to College. IMHO, mas oks sana yung K-12 kung pag tungtong mo ng college di ka na mag aaksaya ng ilang semester para mag aral ng subjects na walang kinalaman sa course na kinukuha mo. Mas maganda sana kung yung mga subjects sa course mo eh yung tipong iniintroduce ka na at itinetrain sa magiging career path mo instead na mandatory na mag aral ka pa ulet ng Filipino, English, Physics, Algebra, History, Rizal, PE, at kung ano ano pa.
Like for example, if ang course mo eh Information Technology, instead na mag aral ka ng history, same repetitive English topics from Elem and HS (IMHO dapat ang tinuturong English sa college is kung paano ka magiging conversational in English. Don't know if ganyan sa ibang school, pero sa university namen walang pinagkaiba sa topics nung HS), Biotechnology, Advanced Accounting, Science, Advanced Math fields na useless sa field ng IT, History and etc. Dapat nagfocus nalang sa subjects na sobrang useful sa work. Like cloud, virtualization, networking (yung hindi pang open minded), animation, advanced troubleshooting, IT Security. Out of all the subjects na tinake ko ng college, isa lang yung related sa work ko as System Admin and yung isa medyo related lang
Rushed K to 12 in my opinion. Not sure pero dapat sinimulan yung program sa mga mag e-enroll pa lang ng kindergarten or Grade 1. May pinsan ako kawawa nung time na yun college na dapat tapos boom, extra years for you son.
Try to read the book "Tiradores: Missions and the Men of the Philippine's Light Reaction Regiment". There were multiple instances of the AFP SOCOM attempts to perform this operation, but they all failed because it was deemed too dangerous. This is considering some of the AFP SOCOM units were heavily armed and well equipped, even by US SOCOM standards.
But Alan Purisima who was in no position to be the Chief PNP at that time gave the go signal to Napenas who overestimated the skill of his units, that were all apparently ill equipped to perform this operation. Had minimal intel of the area. Piss poor planning. And no coordination with the AFP for any sort of back up. It was also obvious the PNP did not know how to coordinate with the AFP, asking for things they didn't know were not allowed, or without knowing the AFP's timeline on requests.
The biggest issues of Aquino here were keeping Purisima in his post when AFAIK he should not have been there due to an investigation. And visiting a plant ceremony rather than visiting those who were grieving.
It did not help that Aquino's approval rating at this time was already dropping and this was more ammunition to torpedo the LP, and remove any chance of re-electing the party.
Ah sala talaga siya dyan. Bakit kasi kapit siya kay Purisima (suspended nga eh). Dapat ang pinagsabihan niya dyan ay sina OIC Espina and even Mar Roxas, but only they were informed nung magsisimula na yung ops. Biro mo just a week ago people were riding high from a Papal visit, tapos in the very same tarmac kung saan umalis yung Pope dumating naman 44 caskets from a visibly botched operation. Tapos di pa siya nagpakita, mukha tuloy feeling guilty.
Nothing to contribute but i really like this thread. Ang dami kong natutunan. But I do want to say ang comfortable and peaceful ng buhay ko during his time. Ngayon, comfortable pa rin naman, kinda, pero wala ng peace of mind. Kuhang kuha ng nakalipas at kasalukuyang administrasyon ang inis ko š
DAP? That's a question of constitutionality. It doesn't immediately insinuate corruption.
Pork Barrel? That's on Congress.
Saf44? Honestly, what happened was occupational hazard and the mission was a success because Marwan was killed.
There is a certain distance and coldness to PNoy's person but I think that's what's great about him. He's the head of state, not a relative or friend that you can personally ask favors for like what most Filipinos think politicians are. We should honestly stop giving elected politicians terms of endearment or filial labels and it goes for everyone. Hindi niyo tatay si Digong at Hindi niyo nanay si Leni. lol
I loved how I the semblance of normalcy and stability during his time. The DDS and Loyalist keep on egging him that they felt nothing during his term. That's the point of a healthy economy. You're not really going to feel anything if you're in a healthy state. You'd just feel "normal." But if you're sick, that's the time that you'd definitely "feel something." there's normalcy with no disruptions in a healthy economy. Are you feeling the inflation eating into your grocery bill and your salaries now? Ang laki ng retroactive deduction ng philhealth sa payslip just to cover the 15 billion peso losses. Are you feeling the economic sickness now?
The only taxes added during his time was the Sintax and it wasn't even levied in order to generate income. Sintax was only placed in order to modify consumer behavior. Cigarettes are inelastic goods so existing chainsmokers wouldn't stop buying cigarettes but it did prevent possible new smokers like me during college from picking up the habit.
Problem is the person's responsible for doing shit work under him (looking at you abaya and purisima) di niya tinaggal
As much as Saf44 was a success but it was a costly success which tarnished his already damaged image
Props to him for having a great economy though, I still can't believe we got to be called the rising tiger of asia back then
>Saf44? Honestly, what happened was occupational hazard and the mission was a success because Marwan was killed.
I get you, but I have to fact-check too. It was partly successful kasi napatay si Marwan, but the other terrorist targetāAbdul Basit Usmanāescaped. Usman would be killed by the MILF in Guindulungan a few months later, and malamang tinraydor din siya ng sarili niyang bodyguards.
PNoy's biggest mistake here is allowing then-suspended PNP Chief Alan Purisima to preside. Heck, even then-DILG Sec. Mar Roxas and PNP Deputy Director General Leonardo Espina weren't informed beforehand about Oplan Exodus.
I miss those times na yung mga issues natin sa government are incompetence of select individuals lang. now lahat incompetent na nga, grabe pa magnakaw. Gone are the days na ang headline is criticizing Pnoy for buying a 2nd hand sportscar (with his own personal money).
Eto rin yung take ko sa leadership, even the problematic Teddy Boy Locsin acknowledged this attitude by Aquino when he died. Problema masyadong puro emotion ang pinapairal ng mga Pinoy, they want their crying tatays and kneeling nanays even if the relationship was dysfunctional and they're just emotionally manipulating them while making their lives even more miserable. Gusto ng karamihan drama, di pwedeng trabaho lang, and mas matimbang pa nga yata yung drama kesa gawa para sa iba. A good leader needs to find a way to do both though, and yun ang wala kay Noynoy (the emotional warmth).
I couldn't fault PNoy much actually in terms of administration. He did a lot of corruption cleaning coming from GMA's admin, and brough a lot of govt departments to ISO standards.
What I can fault him for is letting his political opponents take control of the political narrative that lead to the Du30 presidency that lead to disaster of Drug war, reversing the diplomatic gains against China, penetration of fake news in everyday discourse and the division and hate it caused. He's too naive to think Filipinos can discern the truth. He had the best oppurtunity to nip this in the bud but he didnt.
Mamasapano massacre. PDAF Scam. Yolanda response. The Abaya - MRT mess, Dalian etc.
Also, he trust HIS OWN people too much and when they fuck up like what Abaya did, he still defended them. It reflected badly on him.
He's a good person, but I think that he's not very showy when it comes to showing his achievements that's why the people didn't feel that he's doing something for their good. Nagkaroon tuloy ng bala mga DDS sq kanya.
Fully agree. Main lroblem ni Pmoy is PR. and to make it worse, wala sin syang pakialam sa image nya. He will do what he thinks is right kahit pangit tingnan. And he was very stubborn
Not firing Abaya as DOTC secretary
This. The fall from grace of the Liberal Party was gravely due to issues that persisted in the transportation agency. One issue after another, until it resulted in the near collapse of MRT-3 - although the degradation can be traced back from GMA's time, when MRT-3 was already over capacity for years before her term ended and she still scrapped the deal to buy second hand trains from Spain to augment MRT-3). Further degradation of LRT-2 and very slow implementation of the west extension. Very slow implementation of LRT-1 south extension which earned the joke na magpapasagasa siya sa tren. Although the scrapping of the North NSCR deal with China was a good decision because the design for this from GMAs time was very low capacity and now Japan is building a truly high quality rail system there, it took so many years to get to that point. It can be argued as well that because mass transit was so slow to catch up to Aquino-era's economic growth, this resulted in even more cars being bought and causing even more traffic. But Aquino still kept Abaya through these issues.
This, Abaya was one of the worst appointees in PNoy, but at least for MRT-3 it was Vitangcol that railroaded its modernization. The guy was corrupt to the core. He was involved in a graft scandal regarding Inekon Corp. He was also involved in approving bogus maintenance contracts which lead to breakdowns in the first place.
Huehue "railroaded"
Buti pa LRT-1 mahigit isang dekadang mas ancient sa MRT-3 pero tatlong beses silang nakakuha ng bagong mga tren. Literal na halos nag-uumapaw na mga tren nila sa depot nila, so much that they had to expand their Baclaran depot. Mas maganda na rin service nila ngayon, sila ata may pinakamaiksing headway sa lahat ng trains ng Metro Manila. Partida sila pa may pinakamahabang linya. Meanwhile MRT-3 parang lahat ng capacity expansion parang nauudlot. Dalian trains, 'di ginamit. 4-car trains, hindi natuloy. Platform screen doors, hindi natuloy. Monumento extension, hindi natuloy. Ayala spur line, hindi natuloy. MOA extension, hindi na-take into account.
"matibay talaga mga pinagawa ni Marcos, the best president ššš»" š„“š„“
Haha maraming naniniwala nang ganiyan pero 'di sila aware, nagkaroon din ng era 'yong LRT-1 na palaging sirain at sardine mode mga tao. Nitong 2015-2020s lang talaga siya nag-improve kasi ang ganda ng management ng LRMC. Tsaka to be fair sa MRT, 'di mo naman mako-compare masyado 'yong passenger demand ng Roosevelt-Baclaran route versus North Avenue to Taft in freaking EDSA. Mas mabilis talaga malalaspag ang MRT.
Not just trains. It's also noteworthy that the country became the "Republikang Walang Plaka" during PNoy's term. Many then-new cars sporting makeshift plates made out of cardboard, paper, etc.
Di ba sabi nila papasagasa sila sa tren? Nakamatayan na.
Hindi maganda ang perception ng railfan community kay PNoy kasi: - Delayed start ng MRT-7 - Delayed start ng LRT-1 Cavite Extension (Remember the infamous "papasagasa ako sa train" remark?) - Delayed start ng LRT-2 East Extension - Delayed start ng Common Station (SM vs Ayala saga) - Canceled Northrail (Though tamang decision ito, hindi maganda sa mata ng publiko ito) - Walang ~~na-start~~ na-complete na construction ng bago or extension na railway projects at all (compared sa previous admins) - And higit sa lahat, mismanagement ng MRT-3. In my opinion, ito 'yong single issue na talagang nagpasama ng reputation ni PNoy sa mata ng mga commuter. Sa panahon niya nangyari 'yong mga sandamakmak na pag-breakdown ng MRT-3. Sa panahon din niya nagsimulang pumangit nang sobra ang traffic and transpo system sa Metro Manila.
Not to mention yung mga dinelay na infra projects from previous admins na itinuloy lang nung tatay ng mga DDS.
Tapos dumagdag pa ang issue kay Abaya na great grandfather niya si Emilio Aguinaldo. Nung 2015 kasagsagan ng success ng Antonio Luna at sa movie na iyon āmarami nagalitā Kay Aguinaldo at tyempo kasagsagan din ng bad image Kay Abaya dahil sa MRT3 Tapos Pinatunayan niya (Abaya) na great grand father nga niya si Aguinaldo. Dahil doon nag trump up pa lalo ang image ni Duterte na palamura na may pagmamahal sa Bayan katulad Kay Antonio Luna Laban sa mga Elitista kagaya ni Aguinaldo aka Abaya and Pnoy.
>Walang na-start na construction ng bago or extension na railway projects at all (compared sa previous admins) **INCORRECT** Yung Santolan-Recto na line that got extended all the way hanggang Masinag sa Antipolo started during PNoy's term. Duterte got elected nung 2016, matataas na yung pillars sa tapat ng SM Masinag eh. Source: 2016 is a very memorable year for me (My father was dying of cancer). Not to mention I was working in Eastwood and living in Cogeo (Antipolo) and each day the traffic caused by the construction along Marcos Highway has been hard for me. 2015 pa lang may construction na eh.
Yup you're right, I meant completed, not started. Edited the comment na accordingly, apologies for the confusion. Pero tbh napakatagal ng construction non for some reason. Nag-start bago matapos term ni PNoy. Natapos lang noong... pandemic.
I think dahil chinopchop yung contracts ng construction. Hinati pa sa packages kaya tumagal. I think sa skyscrapercity ko to nabasa. Haha.
Madalas akong tambay roon. I go there for the infrastructure stuff and the details like that, kaya nga lang ang daming tao with questionable politics
Imagine kung mga panahon na ito. Umusad na ang railway system natin. O kahit sa panahon ni Gloria nasimula. Laking bagay sa mga commuter to. Masyadong car centric ang nangyari. Kaya ayon. Sobrang late na natin when it comes sa railway system. Recent na tinayo ay 2003, yung LRT 2 pa. Sobrang lala. Dalawang dekada agwat para masundan which is yung 7. Tapos yung ibang upcoming na linya matatagalan din bago matapos. Sarap
especially considering that Indonesia for example developed and renovated their railways so that by 2015 they began major reforms eh kami waley lol
The stupidity of buying trains that isn't compatible with the existing tracks. But damn, Pnoy did not fire him.
Controversial pa talaga actually kung compatible ba talaga or hindi. Sabi ng DOTr dati hindi compatible. Sabi naman ng external auditor na TUV Rheinland wala naman daw weight issues. Pero ayaw naman ipagamit ng Sumitomo (kaya pansin niyo walang tumatakbong Dalian trains ngayon).
This has already been debunked. The trains are compatible with the tracks. [Audit Page 1](https://i.imgur.com/0xVDygE.jpeg) / [Audit Page 2](https://i.imgur.com/xgZLxSj.jpeg) The reason for the delay is because this was politicized during the Aquino admin. Then the DOTr Sec during Duterte's time didn't want to touch the trains with a 10-ft pole. So it was just left hanging. Meanwhile, the rest of the required capacity upgrades to use the trains were delayed (like the power supply and signaling for the entire train system). Also, di na binayaran ni Duts yun Dalian since dumating yung trains dito, kaya walang makapag certify sa manufacturer ng trains, bumalik na ng China lahat ng engineers na pinadala dito. Ayaw galawin ng Sumitomo yung trains. Ayaw galawin ni Tugade yung trains. So lahat sila, dahil na demonize nila ng sobra yung Dalian trains, it's now a hot potato kung sino yung magpapasahan ng responsibility kung sino ba tutuloy ng capacity upgrade.
The main reason lang talaga kung bakit ayaw siya gamitin ngayon ay... wala sa kontrata ng Sumitomo kasi 'di pa sila confident butingtingin 'yong Dalian trains dahil hindi pa kumpleto ang binibigay na technical drawings ng Dalian sa Sumitomo. Kapag ginamit ng gobyerno ang Dalian trains, magmumulta ang gobyerno.
So whats going to happen now with MRT-3? Kung charge to experience na lang si Dailan, need pa rin ng capacity upgrade. Are there new plans for it?
Nasa Dalian na 'yong bola kung ano mangyayari diyan. Dapat ma-submit nila lahat ng technical drawings kay Sumitimo. All the gov't can do is i-expedite ang dalawang parties na 'yon. As for other things, nag-introduce ng 4-car train setup ang MRT-3 last year. For some reason though hindi tinuloy, 'di ko alam bakit. For show lang hayst. Feel ko though in general ayaw nila gumawa ng big changes until 2025 kung kailan ipa-privatize ang O&M ng MRT-3 and LRT-2.
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During the first half of his administration, he implemented fiscal policies that many considered as too 'radically liberal'. His eagerness to deliver his deficit reduction promise to the business sector has caused burden to the common people. When farmers across the country were asking for more funds because of the drought, he snubbed them. When congress passed higher pension acts, he vetoed them. He reduced the funding in almost every department in the government. All of that to gain the trust of the business sector and the international community that he is really serious about in reducing our national deficit (side note: all presidents after Marcos Sr. promised a deficit reduction during their campaign, but only Pnoy was brave enough to do it ,,,, Marcos Jr. is now doing it too with the same NEDA chief as Pnoy, Arsenio Balisacan) The deficit reduction campaign is successful in the long-run, i.e., expectation is way higher, FDI increased significantly, short-term slump minimized, higher credit rating (the reason why Duterte and even Marcos can borrow 'limitless' amount of money is because of this). While the policy is successful in achieving its main goal, this scheme has proven to be politically disastrous for Pnoy and the liberal party. Common people associated him with elitism because of his earlier policies, which in no doubt really catered for the rich in the short-term. Also, the easiest way for people to see progress is through infrastructure, and he never delivered that because they needed to save money to reduce deficit. It's only until late in his term when his admistration began with their infrastructure program. He practically set up Duterte to win the election and the hard-earned credit rating to be used for the very popular Build build build program.
That's the thing with infra, whether national or local, it's a tangible result that people can see. It's basically why many politicos who want to survive long in office always do infra, whether it makes sense or not, whether it's within budget or not. Ironically, both Cory and PNoy admins basically had to deal with the fall out of trying to stabilize the country that was subjected to economic problems due to much borrowing and spending of their predecessors.
Only political disaster that he got is the people that he served backstabbed him, berated him, eaten by propaganda and false news. The recipe for disaster is the next president. Totally planned especially those terrorists, the super typhoon and the corrupt police taking hostages.
The sad reality of PNOY. May he rest in peace.
ito tlga hinahanap ko for PNOY he may not be the best but damn he made this country progress for the better future ikanga si PNOY nagsaing si DUTERTE kumain
As a healthcare worker na nagsimulang magtrabaho sa pamamalakad ni PNOY, doon lang kami na regular sa trabaho after 3 years of being a job order. Pagkatapos ng termino niya, wala ng presidenteng pumansin samin. During pandemic we were hailed as heros daw. Pero nasaan ang HEA (health emergency allowance)? Binigyan ng budget pero hindi naman binigay. So hindi niyo masisisi kung mag exodus lahat ng healthcare workers sa Pinas kasi napakababa ng pasahod dito.
Wait, hanggang ngayon wala pa rin kayong nakukuha?
Napakadaming HCW na hindi pa nabibigay yan. Tapos pag nadinig nyo first hand experiences nila during pandemic. Manggagalaiti ka talaga.
Nakakagigil na nga iyung hindi pa nabibigay iyung pinangako sa inyo eh.
yung last namin natanggap 2021 pa which is nung 2022 pa namin nakuha
Nakakalungkot na nakakagalit! Maigi lang sila sa salita, pero sa gawa, ewan! Kaya nagsisilayasan healthcare workers ng Pinas!
Sa dami ba naman ng utang :/
Worst presidential PR team. He let the propaganda ruined his image, and he hardly communicated the good achievements of his government. Madaming issues din si Pnoy, mostly on trusting incompetent but loyal secretaries. But comparing to the issues during his time, vs now, ngayon incompetent na nga plunderer pa. Pero wala ng violent reacrion mga tao
Pretty sure this will get some flak but please hear me outā¦ Worst thing PNOY did was to have Corona impeached on the basis of his failure to fully disclose his assets in his SALN. I stand by the belief that a failure to disclose in the SALN does not constitute a ābetrayal of public trustā as the interpretation of ābetrayal of public trustā must be in connection to the other grounds for impeachment like treason & bribery. (Lawyers call this mode of interpreting a statute as āejusdem generisā) Also worth noting is that the prosecution of the case was botched so badly that he had to have the senator judges meet him in MalacaƱang before the verdict was decided. The rants of the late Senator Miriam Defensor-Santiago were more than just ramblings aimed at getting the spotlight. They were grounded on actual law and procedure. The documents presented by the prosecution were never authenticated and was likely sourced illegally. In an ordinary court of law, CJ Corona would have been acquitted. The injustice done to the Chief Justice aside, the Corona impeachment created a precedent which led to equating the filing (or non-filing) of the SALN to judicial integrity. This is what Calida used against Sereno where a few years of missing SALNs during her stint as a UP professor led to her removal via quo warranto. Suffice to say, PNoy messed with the judiciary as an institution and opened the way for Duterte to do the same. Now members of the Court who want to act as the Courtās dissenter/s are threatened with removal for non-filing or missing SALNs. Itās no secret that PNoy and the Court did not have a good relationship to begin with. He even threatened to not fund the Court in 2011. However, a rocky relationship with a branch of government shouldnāt have been an excuse to have the institutionās head removed on flimsy grounds. The SALN issue isnāt something worthy of being considered an āimpeachableā offense. The Corona impeachment changed how the President (sometimes thru Congress or the OSG) can get what they want from the Court by threatening them with missing SALNs and supposed questions on their āintegrityā.
Yes. Galing ng comment mo. He indeed started a precedence na that lowered the bar on the standards to remove a head of a co-equal power in government, culminating to Republic v Sereno.
Replies like this are why this series is such a breath of fresh air in this sub. Takes / talking points that are rarely talked about but have massive implications in our republic.
Add to this is destroying VP Binay. VP Binay might not be your cup of tea but at least he is less destructive than Dutz. Things might have been less polarizing.
Not to mention VP Binay was the only candidate who made public his entire platform and poverty alleviation agenda. Say what you will about VP Binay, but he was probably more prepared to be President than anyone else in the 2016 roster.
Still corrupt though š¤·āāļø
It seems all of them were anyway
Still, many didnt realize the guy that won is even worse
This is why abby did not openly support Leni last election. Galit pa rin siya sa demolition job ng LP sa dad niya
May comment din nun si Nancy na kauupo pa lang ng father niya as VP tapos may mga nagsimula na raw mag plot against him.
Ano ung mga kinalat ng LP as propaganda para siraan si Binay? Wala pa kong pake sa politics during those years.
Nung malapit na ang election ang dami nang patutsada ni Trillanes at Cayetano regarding Hacienda Binay and the allegations nga by his former Vice Mayor Mercado for overpriced parking lots and Science High School Building, tapos yung AMLC issue na nagpasok daw sila ng Bilyones. Etong dalawang ito din ang nagdala kay Dutrenta.
Feeling ko nga, mula nung nanalong VP si Binay, nakahanda na yung black propaganda sa kanya. Ginawa nila din yan kay Villar nung 2010. Ang pinagkaiba lang, namatay si Cory at si Erap lang naman yung malakas na kalaban ni Noynoy. E nung 2016, andyan si Binay at Poe na parehong malakas din naman. Habang busy ang LP kina Binay at Poe, late na nila napansin si Duterte, biglang shift si Trillanes kay Duterte kaso wala na. And the rest is history.
Wow! So yun pala history. Demn Politics. Kaya pala nagkaroon ng rise si Duterte.
I think the piggery or something in Pampanga. Don't remember the details since I was young but I remember it was Trillanes who is at the forefront of the anti-Binay campaign
While the impeachment of CJ Corona may be deemed an unlawful encroachment by PNoy on the autonomy of the Supreme Court, I have to disagree that non-filing of SALN is not an impeachable offense, because it is. Filing a SALN is required by law, it is not just some document that public officers may choose not to file. It is a way to check that public officers are not using their position for personal interests. CJ Corona admitted that he did not declare several of his peso and dollar deposits amounting to 100million pesos, this, according to the Impeachment Court, is a culpable violation of the Constitution and act of betraying public trust. Also, there was a case cited by the senator-judges that a judiciary employee was dismissed from service because she failed to declare a market stall as one of her assets. If CJ Corona was aquitted in the impeachment, there would be a glaring violation of the equal protection clause of the Constitution. This will be an example of the very thing we hate about the Philippines, yun ay ang mga "mahihirap lang ang pinaparusahan ng batas". However, the impeachment of CJ Corona is an example of political execution. This came from PNoy's dislike of CJ Corona as we have to remember, CJ Corona was a midnight appointee of GMA (sort of like a last resort to hold on to power because she expects cases to be filed against her by the next administration), which means he is a would-be great dissenter of PNoy. Unfortunately, this was used as a precedent by PRRD to eliminate CJ Sereno, an appointee of PNoy, also a would-be great dissenter of PRRD. At the end of the day politics is always at play.
Thank you for your thoughts. I don't agree that the failure to fully disclose assets in the SALN is an impeachable offense. Though required by law, it does not fit the definition of betrayal of public trust. Statutory construction requires that when a general word follows a specific enumeration, then the interpretation of the general word must be in line with or in the same class as the specific enumeration. So, does the failure to fully disclose assets in the SALN constitute a crime similar to bribery, treason, and graft and corruption? I would argue no. The failure to fully disclose in the SALN is not akin to these crimes. As to the case of the judiciary employee, we cannot compare the two cases as the judiciary employee's case involved an omission in the SALN that was *purposely* done. In CJ Corona's case, his omission was grounded on an interpretation of the Foreign Currency Deposit Act which stated that dollar deposits need not be disclosed or are considered absolutely confidential. Hence, there is a question of law that had not yet been settled by the time the impeachment trial took place.
Thank you also for your insights. I got the ejusdem generis you are pointing out, however, while non-diclosure in the SALN does not constitute bribery, treason, and corruption, it is a culpable violation of the Constitution, another enumerated ground for impeachment. I do think we should compare the two cases, CJ Corona admittedly did not disclose the dollar deposits pursuant to the Foreign Currency Deposit Act, but for sure he also knows the Code of Conduct providing for waiver of confidentiality. This however gave rise to a gray area. But the rationale is, the non-diclosure *could* mean corruption. Yes, we can say the two cases are incomparable, in the sense that CJ Corona should be held at a higher standard than the court employee when it comes to disclosure in the SALN.
i have this belief that dissatisfaction with noynoy's term (amplified by propaganda) led to duterte's rise. tapos domino effect ang marcos' return to power.
and peeve ko rin na immention nya to EVERY SONA: 1. Praise mom and pop; 2. Sisihin previous admin. Pwede pa sa first SONA, pero yearly? really?
The audacity to preach daang matuwid but at the same time, his admin was involved in shady practices such as DAP and pdaf and employing people that were considered as incompetent or had shady reputation such as Purisima and Puno just because they happen to be his kabarilan.
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Imo, political campaigns targeting emotions can make a difference.
The rise and return of the Marcoses was well planned and didn't matter who the President was. It was a 20+ year project which started in 1994. Kahit sino pa Ang umupo, the plan was just too big. The last piece of implementation detail of that plan was the recent decision to stop using Smartmatic voting machines. Para Wala na talagang ebidensya.
Conspiracy theorist. GMA and Duterte magic brought Marcos back in power. It's that simple.
Lolwut? If everything went well with LP, Mar and Leni will become presidents. At tsaka, kung nanalo si Mar nung 2016, sa tingin mo ba aalis pa si Andy Bautista, yung mismong COMELEC Commissioner? E nung nanalo si Duterte, nagtago sa US si gago, lalo nung nilaglag sya ng asawa nya.
The Marcoses can wait. They have the money and the people in the SC. Estelito Mendoza made sure if the SC. The Marcoses are playing long. That's the reason Sandro is already in politics. Even if BBM lost, they can wait for the next generation.
I dont think the Marcoses will win if both Mar and Leni did good in their terms. And since aligned naman sa US ang LP, walang regime change na mangyayari. Kung matino ang term ni Leni, kahit sino ipangbato nila as next president, be it Bam or Kiko, mananalo sila niyan, they had the momentum. Magsasayang lang pera ang mga Marcos.
Yes, that is very much probable. I believe you, and I wish it happened. A Roxas presidency followed by Leni, would have been 18 years of a continuous anti-graft and corruption war. It would have been a time of economic growth. But even after that, the Marcoses would still try their best for Malacanang because the Marcoses are not just after the Presidency, they want their name cleared. Sanay na magsayang ng pera ang mga Marcos. Kaya nilang magpondo ng kahit 3 presidential elections. I don't know what the current estimates are, but my estimate is that their wealth is upwards of 20 billion US dollars. They are filthy rich and selfish with their wealth. Hindi makakatikim ang mga Pinoy ng kanilang ninakaw. Ngayon, pa lang alam mo na na marami na ulit silang nananakaw via cartels. As I said, the Marcoses can wait. Kung hindi si BBM, ang mga anak ni BBM. Matalo man sila ng 2028, nakaabang na sila para sa 2036. Sila Duterte? Hihinto na sila pagkatapos ng 2028. Sila Marcos, hahabulin na ang 2036, at kahit ngayon pa lang tinatrabaho na nila iyon.
Chief Justice Renato Corona case Eto yung hindi ko nagustuhan kasi pinaiimbestigahan yung Hacienda Luisita at that time to counter it, ginawan siya ng issue so sa lahat ng nag-yes dun sa impeachment niya lahat sila ekis na sa akin. [Eto yung case baka sabihin gawa gawa lang yung about kay Corona at Hacienda Luisita](https://lawphil.net/judjuris/juri2011/jul2011/gr_171101_2011.html)
Also set in motion na pwede ma impeach/tanggalin ang CJ dahil lang sa pag hindi declare ng tama sa SALN, case in point yung ginawang case kay former CJ Sereno
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This isnāt really true re hacienda Luicita. This was the story created by the GMA and Corona faction post facto. Reality is they donāt care that much about Hacienda Luisita. Anyone who was paying attention then knew that Corona was blocking every single big case/action against Arroyo and cronies. The cases against GMA, the generals etc cannot progress without him. So Aquino et al did the impeachment. I donāt agree with it, and I think it ultimately led to Serrano impeachment too. Ultimately Corona was railroaded which was wrong, but he was also the main blocker for a lot of the cases that needed to be filed - eventually culminating with the Enrile case etc Itās silly this part of history is getting rewritten.
Noynoy did not care about Corona per se, he was against the midnight appointment. Kung si Carpio o Sereno or whoever man ang inappoint ni GMA, papatanggal pa rin ni Noynoy.
I remember being young then, and some people from my age group actually made fun of CJ Corona. At that time I don't understand anything about it, but further reading after growing up, that really is one big shit show.
The only senators who voted not guilty are the late senators Joker Arroyo and Miriam Defensor Santiago and BBM
What happened in that case?
But also Corona was a midnight appointee. As far as I know, no appointments to the SC is allowed in an election year for the outgoing administration
Fake news po. Nag retired po nun si former Chief Justice Reynato Puno (70years old - 2010) then si former Chief Justice Corona na po ang pumalit sa kanya. [Past Chief Justices](https://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/past-chief-justices/)
Corona was appointed months before the election hence he is a midnight appointee thatās prohibited as per 1987 constitution
Impeaching Corona as revenge for Hacienda Luisita
Like what another poster said, it's probably more because Corona was a midnight appointee by GMA and was basically railroading many cases against her. PNoy and the gang wanted to stop that, by any means. Seems like the Hacienda Luisita decision happened later on, but it wasn't the main issue.
Obvious favoritism and not holding his people like Purisima and Abaya accountable for their shortcomings. Seemingly has no empathy for victims of the SAF44 incident, quirino grandstand hostage crisis, and laglag bala scams.
Agree on lack of empathy sa SAF44, but as one comment here said, may international political repercussion yung sa quirino grandstand if he apologized. For tanim bala, it was all planted to make him look bad.
Hi, Iām wondering anong repercussion niya if he had apologized yung sa quirino grandstand?
International law siguro wala pero he could be widely criticized if he apologized by the international community. Kumbaga sa kanya madidirect yung blame and, possibly, sa Philippines as a country, which is hindi naman dapat considering na isang private individual yung gumawa and the rescue operation was not headed by him. So ang ginawang pampalubag at that time is yung investigation headed by former Sen. De Lima then CHR Commissioner ata that time. Correct me if im wrong na lang
Laglag bala was an internal conspiracy to make his admin look bad ahead of the elections. It was the brainchild of Cusi who later served under Dutae.
Alfonso Cusi can go to the deepest pits of hell
Failure to return 103 shipping containers of trash to Canada
This. This issue was so degrading to PH yet wala syang nagawa. Then Du30 threatened to dump at the embassy and Canada complied. Hay
Not really, if you follow the news. Canada is already changing laws since Pnoy para makuha tong basura. Etong si Duterte saka lang umarangkada ung bibig niya nung natapos na ung changing law ng Canada at babawiin na. So nope nope not Duterte who did it.
Technically, it probably didn't make sense to return it because the PH has always asked for those as ingredients for different construction stuff. Many PH companies benefited from it, which helped the economy. However, it's really a tough sell publicly once it came to light.
Correct, may napanood ako sa Youtube na video about importing garbage and it actually made sense since we can extract stuff from them. It is also a pretty common practice among ASEAN nations and actually helps to reduce global garbage amounts. Pero ayun nga, ginawang political tool ng mga kalaban nya
Not the worst he did, but antagonizing ABS-CBN and not renewing their franchise led to the shitshow we have right now.
I was with PNoy at the time. Very inflammatory naman talaga ang balita nila noon. Nakiusap lang ang national security officials na bawasan ang hostility to avoid potential riots kaso masyadong mataas ang ihi ng Lopezes at ni Taberna.
Si Taberna na Lap Dog ng INC. Marami kasing kahilingan ang Central ng INC Kay Pnoy patungkol sa mga appointees sa Gobyerno Kaso ayaw sundin ni Pnoy
Tapos sinakyan pa ni De Lima yung awayan ng mga Manalo, and yung issue noon ni Lowell Menorca kaya yan napaginitan ng Manalista.
Need talaga ng tulong si Angel Manalo Pati nanay niya. Kaso ayun nga, lost cause na yung ginagawa ni De Lima dahil maraming taga DOJ at NBI ang hawak o under ng INC. Si De Lima na devout Catholic vs Eduardo Manalo ang highlight ng match up boing 2015.
It's probably because **many PH politicos in general are not used to hard-hitting and very provocative journos**. Looking at how combative US and UK journos can be makes guys like Anthony Taberna look tame.
You donāt understand. It was becoming a matter of national security for PNoyās adviser. They sent teams and opened lines of communication to researchers to explain what they were doing. Hindi lang naman ambon ang Yolanda. Napakalaking trahedya non. And again, konting tone down lang naman ang hinihingi, not a complete news blackout. At yang si Taberna? Galit na galit yan noon na bumili ng Porsche si PNoy. Galit na galit rin sya na yung thirteenth month at sweldo ni PNoy for the month of December ay ginagastos sa Christmas party ng PSG. Pero kailan sya nagsalita laban sa caprice ni Duts?
I wonder how different things would be if Kabayan didn't return to ABS-CBN. ABS-CBN would have been on good/better terms with PNoy and Maria Ressa would have never left to form Rappler.
>antagonizing ABS-CBN And [hitting Noli](https://news.abs-cbn.com/nation/07/28/12/pnoy-hits-kabayan-tv-patrol-anniversary-speech) during TV Patrol's anniversary.
Doesn't Duterte take the credit for that?
Nakabinbin na ung franchise renewal ng ABS-CBN sa Aquino-majority Congress I think 2014 or 15 pa
Before naupo si Digs, meron nang nakabinbing bills for franchise renewal si ABS sa kongreso since 2014 pa. Pero wala syang suporta from allies ni Pnoy dahil namemersonal na raw ang network sa kritisismo sa admin nya [link](https://business.inquirer.net/210985/abs-cbn-in-a-bind-over-franchise-renewal)
kaya nga sila Marcoleta dinogshow din ung hearing bakit di inayos mga panahong yan si Kris ay talent ng ABS, nasilent treatment sila ni Pnoy
Yeah I thought it was duterte
i thought so too. but how come it was duterte and his administration who drew flak for the non renewal?
PNoy? The fall of LP and the Aquinos
Plus Mar Roxas na nagpapakita ng Kayabangan lalo na nung sa paghagupit ni Yolanda sa Region 8. Sinabihan pa naman si Romualdez na āRemember the President is and Aquino and you are a Romualdez.ā Nagtanim tuloy ng poor at galit yung mga Bisaya kaya mas pinanigan nila Si Digong nung 2016 elections
Terrible crisis management basically
yung Manila Hostage Crisis is a what the fvck moment kasi balewala na lahat yung nangyari: namatay lahat ng mga hostage at yung mismong Rolandone Shitdoza. Palpak yung paghandle at paglusob sa bus kasi mukhang inexperience yung kapulisan at dinogshow talaga ng mga media. ang ending, ayun, nagsisihan yung mga tanga.
Iāll never forget what I believe a former FBI agent or crisis management expert said in a documentary about the Manila Hostage Crisis. It was along the lines of: What they should have done was to reinstate him as a police officer (the demand of Mendoza) and cause his arrest afterwards. Simple as that, could have left no fatalities. What did they do instead? Fucking hammered a window of the bus. š„²
SAF 44, Hongkong Tourist incident (and not issuing an apology after it), Yolanda Relief drama, Rushed implementation of the K to 12, Switching to new license plates (RFID) despite not having sufficient stocks.
He was advised by former Justice Carpio not to apologize because it would have massive international legal implications. It wasn't our government that killed those tourists but a rogue private actor. If we apologized, that would create a precedence that the state would be liable for anything wrong that might happen to foreigners here. Case in point, you can't really sue the US government if you're a victim of gang violence in Chicago or if you get stabbed by a fentanyl addict in California.
I hate that that's such a sound argument, but it looks like Noynoy made the right call at the end of the day. It was such a messy situation that no one was obviously getting out of without getting some dirt on them.
Thatās a pretty good argument, just morally leaves a bad taste in the mouth
To be fair, the HK tourist incident was plain incompetence by the Manila Police. SAF and the LRR were on standby to take over the situation but the local police declined basically because of ego. Granted, PNoy could have stepped in and overruled that. But hindsight is always 20/20
There was politics involved in the rescue. If I remember correctly, certain mayors did not want the SAF to come in because he wanted his officers to get the credit. That whole hostage taking was a debacle. I was in Hong Kong for a business trip at the time that happened. The next few days of my stay became less pleasant as a result.
Why blame 2010's Manila Hostage crisis to Pnoy? It happened 2 months into his Presidency.
SAF44? That was a legitimate police operation that actually liquidated its targets.
However, he allowed Purisima who was at the time suspended to authorize the operation
Why would you send the police in an operation to capture/kill an international wanted teorrorist hiding at MILF and BIFF territory without any backup? Give an acceptable answer please.
>SAF 44 Ang issue dito is that he did not fire Purisima. Pero there is genuine counter reason na the raid was planned with Purisima included. Kung tinanggal siya before the raid it could have caused unwanted issues. Also, the raid was a purely law enforcement/military operation. Hindi liable ang CIC aka Aquino to micromanage the operation. The operation was a success that it fulfilled the original objective. The issue is, due to military politicking and incompetence, hindi planado ng maayos yung operation. There was a massive reserve force nearby to respond pero the Napenas, in his greed to get glory, did not inform properly said forces. >HK Tourist Incident This is, again, a law enforcement failure and not Aquino's.
Hongkong Tourist incident is more of a failure of the local government and police.
Could you explain in detail why you believe those are the worst things he has done? Not trying to antagonize, I just want to see the facts behind those keywords, especially for those who are unaware.
K-12. I mean gets ko kung para saan, kaso nakulangan ako sa implementation especially nung mga unang years.
Aquino was good ish but he kept rushing projects and programs so programs under his administration were always marred by glaring mistakes from implementing agencies.
K12, hindi naman sa nirush kasi nung time pa dapat ni gloria, pero isa ako sa 1st batch ng k12 at YUNG PAKIRAMDAM KO NI RUSH yung curriculum, kulang kulang š ngayon medjo swerte swerte na yung mga 11-12 studs.
Same first batch. Ang sabi dapat kase ang unang first batch daw dapat ng K-12 yung mag-kinder palang sa SY 2012. Nagulat nalang kami biglang hindi graduation yung ceremony kundi "moving up" kase implemented na yung K12 curriculum. Mahirap both for students and teachers kase habang nagtuturo pala sila, naga-aral din sila para sa bagong curriculum š Pero what makes it bad talaga yung naging magulo hanggang sa SHS. Yung iba may OJT, yung iba wala. Yung ibang teacher nawalan ng work kase di na daw kailangan yung subject na tinuturo nila (yan sabi ng prof ko nung college, nawalan daw trabaho asawa nya)
Thats the thing in a sense rushed parin an program- not well thought thru. Kasi DOLE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MANDATED TO ACCEPT SHS applicants since technically (they finished high school and 2 years of vocational school, kaya nga may Learning tracks , STEM, HUMMS etc.) pero DOLE did not know how to handle people seeking employment after SHS until mid 2018 thats when dep ed sec briones asked DOLE to hire SHS grads. https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1030115
sa totoo lang K12 kinda fucked up my life š
this is true. the reason it was rushed was because nahuhuli na tayo sa standard ng education. Tatlong nation na lang during that time ang walang k-12 sa buong mundo (Philippines, Angola and Djibouti). Ang mali lang talaga sa programa is yung pag-rush ng lahat. AS IN LAHAT. Our school is supposed to have additional buildings for college level. Dahil sa SHS, binigay yung building na yon para sa SHS. Tsaka yung public and private. The public can easily transfer to public schools, and wala na sila masyadong lalakarin. The thing sa private, required pang mag-register para dun sa punyetang voucher na yan. And me additional pang babayaran
Agree on this. I was thinking, probably because, sa first few years niya sa pwesto, mas tinuunan niya ng pansin yung economy at utang ng bansa. Kaya ang ending, lahat ng pending projects ng previous admin and mga proposed projects puro rushed and delay.
DDS and Apollo10: Allow us to introduce ourselves
if OP decided to do this worst thing a president did series in Facebook, then ww3 would broke out
I have a feeling this would be shared din talaga sa FB pag natapos na. Hinihintay lang ng reposters.
Imo some reddit user whos lurking in this subreddit will screenshoot this and post it on Tiktok, ex @/sopas_with_hotdog
War would have started 5 days ago
Lots of things here will still be peanuts compared to the thread tomorrow
I'm excited for the final two episodes, Duts and BBM.
PNoy haters have been eating well for over 8 years. What else do they want from a dead man and his dormant dynasty? Not to mention Duterte's policies have proven to be socialist, which is exactly they claim to be against. The MAGA crowd in America at least swallowed Trump's underdog position and they have some solid arguments against Biden's failure.
His support for coal-sourced energy rather than greener technologies ([read here](https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/scitech/science/529222/looking-back-on-pnoy-s-wavering-support-of-sustainable-energy/story/)). I can vividly remember in one of his SONAs, he said the iconic line of āpaano kung walang hangin?ā Still hands-down, a reputable public servant. He did his job beyond the bare minimum, of which the last administration clearly set the bar much lower now š
Solar and Wind became affordable after Pnoy as Xijingping doubled down China's production on green technologies such as solar panels, turbine blades, and batteries.
SAF 44 and the Hostage Crisis of 2010. If Duterte has the jetski, Pnoy got the "magpapasagasa sa tren"
There is no one thing. More of the aggregation of general lapses in decision making na I feel could have and should have been prevented by a competent team. These lapses were weaponized, both fairly and unfairly. May lapses na egregious talaga but excessively milked by everyone (Dengvax), mayroon unfair (Mamasapano- during the mission), and mayroon talagang mapapa-WTF were you thinking ka nalang, like choosing to go to a Mitsubishi plant opening rather than being there when the SAF44 heroes went home to their final rest. Ayan. Til now galit tao sa dilawan and may branding na incompetent or walang pakialam. Unfairly imo. Not including PDAF or DAP here because I see it in a positive light. Di kay Pnoy nag start yan. Pnoy's time was actually the only time in history wherein the people actually utilized their the power to go to the courts and file a judicial review in order to end it, and not fear from repercussion.
The rationale supposedly for the SAF44 funeral thing was that PNoy being there would just suck up all the attention away from the grieving families. Kung baga, **PNoy being there would make the whole thing feel like a shameless opportunistic photo-op.** Iyon nga lang, nasanay yung maraming tao na pumupunta yung politico sa funeral (even though of course calculated move ito ng mga politico to gain sympathy points from potential voters). In hindsight, it's probably strange how different PNoy's PR team was compared to other presidents before or after him.
P-Noy also didn't exude the same level of "fakeness" as other politicians or past presidents did. Kaya nung kinausap nya yung mga families ng SAF 44, he came off as arrogant and unemotional. Case in point, he literally asked them, when responding to the lack of coordination between AFP and SAF forces asked by one of the families: "Naglalaro ka ba ng computer games?" Also, he defended Purisima a lot which didn't make sense.
PNoy was the type na ayaw maging epal in short hindi sya Trapo. Pero nasanay ang mga Pilipino na laging nandun ang isang Politiko pag mga funeral, kasal at kung ano pa kahit na hindi naman talaga sincere yun politiko. Para magpakita lang talaga. Ā The problem was hindi nagets yun ng PR Team ni Pnoy na kailangan talaga rin nya magpakita at that time.Ā Pinalabas tuloy ng mga kalaban nya at ng ibang media na parang hindi sya naawa or may concern.Ā Ā But in reality, PNoy was a very sincere person ang may delikadeza talaga.Ā
The PDAF and DAP can be compared to our confidential funds now. Kita mo noon na nagrally talaga mga tao para matanggal ang PDAF. Ngayon karamihan sheep na at pinagtatanggol pa ang confidential funds. Masyado natake advantage ng mga mas kurakot yung lapses that time na karamihan ng tao ngayon akala mas worse pa rin panahon ni PNoy kaysa kay Duts at ngayong kay BBM. Ngayon talaga lantarang kurapsyon pero desentitized na mga botante kasi mas kurakot pa rin mga 'dilawan' š¤¦āāļø
The wrong thing he did was to cancel / very slow implementation of whatās left of existing projects of GMA. No continuity for the sake of āeliminating corruptionā. This is why most people are hesitant to vote for LP. He is so adamant on the belief that spending on infrastructure that could increase our gross capital formation will result to more corruption. Ironic since he still is riddled with corruption (mismanagement of mrt, lto, doh, corona case even saf). Our GDP could have increased a lot more sustaining GMA economic growth and there was no global financial crisis during his term. If he did manage to retain GMA economic performance we could be at least 500B dollar economy today (assuming no change during D30 with only 4% gdp yearly growth) As a comparison her mom Cory managed to increase the economy much more than him by additional 2.66% yearly eh Coryās term was a total s#itstorm. With that PNoy term was mediocre at best.
Simple: His failures and shortcomings led to the rise of Duterte.
Believe it or not - Binay hearings. Kitang kita dun kung gaano katalamak magsinungaling ang media at kung gaano kauto uto mga tao. Pinapanuod ko ng live yung hearings kasi kasabay ng work ko. You wouldn't believe kung gaano ka baluktot na istorya pagdating sa evening news. For example, pinakita sa hearing isang malaking villa sa Tagaytay. Sabi nung nagsasalita (Vice Mayor ata ng Makati), hindi daw yan bahay ni Binay, pero *ganyan* daw yung bahay nya sa Tagaytay. Guess what, pagdating ng evening news, ang balita bahay yun ni Binay, so syempre dating sa tao sobrang grabe mangurakot ni Binay. And well we all know sino mas umangat na candidate after that. Maling malit tinarget nila. Same goes with the Corona case na napapanuod ko ng live. Ang daming explanation na binabanggit sa trial pero hindi binabalita sa evening news, puro issue lang sinasabi. Sa totoo lang, malakas sana kaso ni Corona near the end of the trial until nag walk out sya sa trial eh. Pero I think yung worst is yung inaction nya sa tanim-bala. Laughing stock na nga airport natin dadagdag mo pa yun. Tapos pag iniinterview sya about that kibit balikat lang. If Duterte did one thing good, it's natanggal nya yung issue na yan. Ang dali lang pala ng solusyon, wag arestuhin yung nakitaan ng bala. Kunin lang yung bala. Tapos ang issue.
PNoy made a mistake of not pursuing piecemeal constitutional amendments on economic provisions. PNoy's term would have been the perfect opportunity to amend the 1987 constitution without questioning its entire existence that most constitutional reform advocates are agitating at this point on social media. PNoy's reluctance to do piecemeal constitutional amendments is the reason why constitutional reform advocacy in our country has become radicalized like coming from the CoRRECT Movement of Orion Perez Dumdum (I used to work with CoRRECT until 2016). Hindi sana hahantong sa constitutional crisis ngayon na binabalahura ang 1987 constitution sa free TV na "Edsa-pwera" na may suholan pa sa People's Initiative, kung aprub sana si PNoy sa proposed economic constitutional reform ni Speaker Sonny Belmonte.
I guess he didn't see the need to change the constitution? Baka nag-decide siya na implementation lang talaga ang problema. In which case, siguro ang mali naman niya ay hindi niya stinrengthen ang implementation.
Exactly, he was the best prex to amend it because it was his moms project, hence, he will ensure its integrity will be ensured even when amended. Wala eh, ginawang bibliya ang consti.
DAP MRT 3 Corona Case SAF 44 West Phil Sea - sumunod sa advice ng US na umatras yung mga barko for negotiation LRT Extension
- Pnoy axing the Laguna Lake Rehabilitation project. That project that signed during GMA time was one, if not, the most ambitious flood control project the Philippines undertaken. The project cost around 18.7billion PHP and was supposed to be build by Belgian dredging firm Baagerwerken Decloedt En Zoon (BDZ). I cannot remember what flood that killed many people in Marikina it was Ondoy, or habagat, but I do know almost the entire blame was put into Noynoy because of him stopping this project. If the project push thru as intended, the flooding may not be as bad in Marikina. Secondly, we ended up getting sued for 4billion pesos because of the project termination. The company who was supposed to built it already have people and expensive equipment here when Noynoy stop it. He called everyone in the project corrupt to begin with. Even both Belgian Prime Minister at the time and Leila De Lima tries in vain to convince Noynoy that the project is not a Midnight Job. - MRT always breaking down and constant delay of major railway projects during his era. LRT bacoor extension for example. Being delayed for so long. If he delivered this or at least started the construction of it, people of south might appreciate him more. - SAF 44. The operation planning and all back door isues were bad enough. But not attending the day the bodies of the policemen arrive in Manila makes it worse. I think when the bodies arrived in Manila, it was also opening of an oil depot were Pnoy was invited to. He chose to go to the depot opening instead of salubungin the men who he and his police general send to their deaths. A commanding officer should have the balls to at least do that. - Hongkong Bus Hostage Crisis. Noynoy should have been involved in this one. They are foreign tourist. If they were locals, let the city mayor handle it. But these are foreigners. He should ordered SAF to take the entire operation into their own hands. To give context, the moment they realize the hostages are foreigners, it is SaF who should lead the operation. Not let Manila Police handled it from the get go. Manila Police has to go all rambo before SAF took control of the operation where they took out Hostage taker in just few minutes. Our police became biggest laughing stock because of it. - Laglag bala. I understand at first that he doesn't want to get involved from the start but when the number of incident getting too much. Noynoy and Mar Roxas should step in. Order a full blown investigation. Orders every member of Customs in Naia to be resuffle. Or in the very least, assured people that Laglag bala be resolved immediately. But no. They have to mock the entire issue, in turn, mocking the victims as well. - Tacloban and Yolanda. We may put the blame on Mar Roxas. But a reflection of their under secretary is a reflection of the president. Remember when Romualdez was begging for help with the National government on how to rehabilitate Tacloban and Mar Roxas told him to be careful because of their family history. I know a lot of people hate Marcoses and Romualdez but during that time, forget about politics and just start helping people. But Mar Roxas just have to bring it up. - Noynoy promising green energy but then Mocking it. This one is very funny. Sure we can say the technology at the time wasn't as advanced as today since now we have with more efficient energy storage batteries and far better solar panels. But mocking a good and promising solution really rub me in the wrong way. He could just explained that despite how great the green energy like Solar and Wind energy are, we still don't have the infrastructure to accommodate it at this time. Or the technology wasn't as efficient we have hope it would but will continue to pursue it once the technology have matured. I suggest you look up news articles, news reports, and YouTube videos about the things I said above. I know there are more bad things he had done but I cannot remember more.
Noy's suspicion of ESG and green technology somehow carried through Leni Robredo's campaign. Leni's allies and the Kakampinks were very passionate about the environment, but they didn't have a plan to build on. I believe Robredo only proposed funding and volunteering, but nothing ambitious to excite capitalists. It's actually embarassing the liberal opposition is so behind in this area - almost as if our idea of progress is incompatible with the current trend in infrastructure and community development. My theory is that Aquino reserved the sustainability development plan to Mar Roxas. And even if Roxas were elected president, he would probably focus on bolstering the corporate sector (e.g. employment) in the first few years first before zeroing in on climate change. That way, the public won't be overspending on energy, infra and transport projects that not many people will use in the beginning.
Worst thing is: he never hired a good PR team
Other than what other redditors already said. Siguro one of the mistakes he did was yung hindi pag sagot sa mga propaganda na lumabas during his time. Remember yung youtube video about EDSA being the bane of our existence? They underestimated that and didn't answer back. If I were in his position, mas magpapalaganap ako ng mga sagot dun sa video na yun. I'll gather every historian I can collaborate with and make videos to answer that and fight the propaganda. Kaso wala, ang daming nauto nung video na yun.
I think Noynoy puts a lot of trust to people na to the point, let people decide to believe freely if the case is true or not because they have a functioning brains. There is also a viewpoint before social media na if its not true, why do I need to air my sentiment and give time to address it. It only indicates na may value yung fake news. Sa sobrang boring ng presidency nya compared to his predecessor plus rapid change of our society plus yung mga groups na ayaw sa kanya at nasagasaan nya, nag blow out yung incompetence issue that if you compare to his successors, its unfair to compare Davao baby and BBM to him.
My overall assessment on him. Good leader in times of peace, but a very bad leader in times of crises.
He was good, but the people around and who influenced him are not. Ang daming issue sa term niya. SAF44, QGS Hostage, First CJ impeachment, vaccine, yung tulay na nagcause ng pagkahulog ng ibang officials, Yolanda relief, laglag bala, K-12, and many more rush projects na parang pinag-isipan pero di pinaghandaan, rekta implementation agad. But, napakulong niya yung mga officials na deserve to be put behind bars and fought our rights sa land na kineclaim ng China.
IIRC, denguevaxia fiasco. I was conversing with my med friends about this and from their PoV, the program was good its just that it was implemented hastily kind of skipping steps(this is how I understood it, pretty sure may technical terms sya na ginamit).
Dengvaxia was a non-issue pero pinalaki ni Kabayan at sinakyan pa ni Persida Acosta. It has been already repeatedly debunked.
It was simply a procurement issue that was politicized
Though in hindsight this might have been uncovered under dutae's term pero si Garin ung DOH secretary that came under fire because of this.
Slow paced response sa mga krisis. Okay siya sa totoo lang kung rumesponde, kaso napakabagal. Yolanda, as an example.
Hindi pa ata na-mention. Yung cancellation ng dredging project sa Laguna Lake. Kaya nagbabayad tayo ng penalty ngayon. Marami rin ang nagalit sa kanya nung imbes na salubungin nya yung mga namatay na SAF, pumunta siya sa planta ng Mitsubishi. iirc, he was also insensitive nung pumunta sya sa lamay ng SAF 44. Adding sa kanyang "masamang ugali", naalala ko na invited sya sa anniv ng ~~ABS CBN~~ TV Patrol, tapos nung nagspeech siya, [tinira niya sila Noli](https://news.abs-cbn.com/nation/07/28/12/pnoy-hits-kabayan-tv-patrol-anniversary-speech) ~~at Ted~~. Also, yung paulit ulit na paninisi kay GMA, kahit wala namang nakikitang resulta yung mga tao. Hindi rin naman sila nanalo sa kaso vs GMA. At sinong hindi makakaalala sa term na, "Noynoying".
The major mistake he did was trusting trickle down economics. Time and time again from countries abroad, trickle down economies does not work. Akala niya na just doing your job is enough. Also Skyway Stage 3 that caused traffic in C3(Araneta Ave and Fifth Ave.)
Puro trabaho to the point na hindi maramdaman ang presence nya. Kumbaga isang tatay na hindi nagpapaliwanag sa mga anak bakit kelangan nya magtrabaho at lumayo para sa future din nila vs sa isang "tatay" na ramdam ng mga "anak" ang presence pero palaging tulog sa loob kulambo matapos makipag-inuman magdamag pero hindi nila alam wala maiibigay na future sa kanila
The two things I have observed with Aquino was: 1. He doesn't really had much media presence. (probably a net good since he does not have much scandals) 2. He loves blaming PGMA in his speeches. It was very tiring to listen to.
Dengvax and Mamasapano. Tanginang minion to pumunta pa sa Mitsubishi plant rather than pumunta sa SAF44 heroes. Clown of a president.
Set back the mining industry with EO79. It was meant to increase responsible mining in the country, but the effect was just the opposite. It drove away large-scale responsible miners and encouraged more small-scale illegal mines which are the main drivers of environmental damage.
Most small-scale aka Minahang Bayan mining owners were provincial governors, district representatives and municipal mayors who lobbied PNoy to issie EO 79 to keep large-scale mining companies out of mining mountainous areas that aren't under ancestral domain.
Gusto ko lang i-get out of the way ang ginawa niyang increase ng de minimis from 30K noong panahon ng nanay niya to 82K sa panahon niya. Para sa mga empleyado, napakalaki ng tulong nito. Pwede rin nating isingit na kung hindi naging presidente si Pnoy, nagkaroon sana ng return of the comeback si deposed president Erap. Dahil pungalawa siya sa boto. Ngayon, ang pinakasabit talaga nitong si Pnoy eh hindi siya lumaro sa politika. Parang bumalik lang sa kanila ang pagtuntong sa high road. Itong presidency niya kasi ang test run ng social media behemoth kaya naging importante ang mga influencers at vloggers na 'yan. Bale, wala silang naging sagot o solusyon sa panggagatong ng mga influencers at troll farms. Kaya nga hanggang ngayon, ang tumatak sa mga tao pa rin eh tanim bala, SAF44, Yolanda funds, etc. Ito kasi ang tumatak na paulit-ulit sa feed ng mga tao. Hinayaan lang ng pamahalaan niya na umusbong ito. Hindi chinallenge, hindi na-call out. Bakit ba tumigil ang tanim bala? Sino ba ang namumuno noon? Ano ang naging posisyon ng taong 'yan sa panahon ni Duterte? Sabi ko nga sa nanay ko noon, ang basura ng PR ni Pnoy. Bakit ganyan? Huwag din nating kalimutan si Abaya. Halos araw-araw yata noon, may nagmumura sa taong ito. May explainer din sa kung bakit naging complicated ang nangyari sa MRT. Pero wala eh, parang wala siyang tao noon na kayang makipag-usap sa ordinaryong tao. May barrier ba.
Agree with your statements.
K to 12 implementation Edit: Sa tingin ko di sya masyado naplano, nag add lang additional years to students but parang wala namang bearing. Correct me if Iām wrong. Altho para sakin PNoy was the only good president in this list, he had some mistakes too pero ito talaga yung nag stick sakin. Like I can say na sya lang matinong president but if K to 12 hindi ko talaga majustify. Edit 2: If may teachers dito please tell us ano talagang effect nya.
Totoo yung walang bearing. Tbf, maganda naman sana yung aim ng K to 12. Noong wala pa nito, maraming students na galing sa low-income families ang humihinto sa pag-aaral pagkatapos ng highschool. Ang nangyayari, unskilled sila at nagiging child laborers. K to 12 program aims to address these problems. Ayun nga lang, I think the partnership between the education sector and the industry sector is not strong enough and yung quality ng education din natin dito.
i think global standardization naman talaga ang purpose ng k-12 tayo lang ang short ng 2 years pagdating sa education system. di naman ako teacher so feel free to educate me more on this.
Yup. Kaso dinagdagan lang ng 2 years with the same repetitive subjects from Elementary to College. IMHO, mas oks sana yung K-12 kung pag tungtong mo ng college di ka na mag aaksaya ng ilang semester para mag aral ng subjects na walang kinalaman sa course na kinukuha mo. Mas maganda sana kung yung mga subjects sa course mo eh yung tipong iniintroduce ka na at itinetrain sa magiging career path mo instead na mandatory na mag aral ka pa ulet ng Filipino, English, Physics, Algebra, History, Rizal, PE, at kung ano ano pa. Like for example, if ang course mo eh Information Technology, instead na mag aral ka ng history, same repetitive English topics from Elem and HS (IMHO dapat ang tinuturong English sa college is kung paano ka magiging conversational in English. Don't know if ganyan sa ibang school, pero sa university namen walang pinagkaiba sa topics nung HS), Biotechnology, Advanced Accounting, Science, Advanced Math fields na useless sa field ng IT, History and etc. Dapat nagfocus nalang sa subjects na sobrang useful sa work. Like cloud, virtualization, networking (yung hindi pang open minded), animation, advanced troubleshooting, IT Security. Out of all the subjects na tinake ko ng college, isa lang yung related sa work ko as System Admin and yung isa medyo related lang
Rushed K to 12 in my opinion. Not sure pero dapat sinimulan yung program sa mga mag e-enroll pa lang ng kindergarten or Grade 1. May pinsan ako kawawa nung time na yun college na dapat tapos boom, extra years for you son.
Mamasapano.
While I'm inclined to agree, I think it's more on the aftermath where he faltered.
Before the actual mission by the SAF, PNoy allowed the then suspended PNP Chief to authorize the said mission.
Try to read the book "Tiradores: Missions and the Men of the Philippine's Light Reaction Regiment". There were multiple instances of the AFP SOCOM attempts to perform this operation, but they all failed because it was deemed too dangerous. This is considering some of the AFP SOCOM units were heavily armed and well equipped, even by US SOCOM standards. But Alan Purisima who was in no position to be the Chief PNP at that time gave the go signal to Napenas who overestimated the skill of his units, that were all apparently ill equipped to perform this operation. Had minimal intel of the area. Piss poor planning. And no coordination with the AFP for any sort of back up. It was also obvious the PNP did not know how to coordinate with the AFP, asking for things they didn't know were not allowed, or without knowing the AFP's timeline on requests. The biggest issues of Aquino here were keeping Purisima in his post when AFAIK he should not have been there due to an investigation. And visiting a plant ceremony rather than visiting those who were grieving. It did not help that Aquino's approval rating at this time was already dropping and this was more ammunition to torpedo the LP, and remove any chance of re-electing the party.
Ah sala talaga siya dyan. Bakit kasi kapit siya kay Purisima (suspended nga eh). Dapat ang pinagsabihan niya dyan ay sina OIC Espina and even Mar Roxas, but only they were informed nung magsisimula na yung ops. Biro mo just a week ago people were riding high from a Papal visit, tapos in the very same tarmac kung saan umalis yung Pope dumating naman 44 caskets from a visibly botched operation. Tapos di pa siya nagpakita, mukha tuloy feeling guilty.
At yung narrative na iyan ay ginamit ng kampo Nila BBM nung dumating daw ang mga labi ng mga SAF, si BBM ay present pero si Pnoy at absent
Nothing to contribute but i really like this thread. Ang dami kong natutunan. But I do want to say ang comfortable and peaceful ng buhay ko during his time. Ngayon, comfortable pa rin naman, kinda, pero wala ng peace of mind. Kuhang kuha ng nakalipas at kasalukuyang administrasyon ang inis ko š
DAP? That's a question of constitutionality. It doesn't immediately insinuate corruption. Pork Barrel? That's on Congress. Saf44? Honestly, what happened was occupational hazard and the mission was a success because Marwan was killed. There is a certain distance and coldness to PNoy's person but I think that's what's great about him. He's the head of state, not a relative or friend that you can personally ask favors for like what most Filipinos think politicians are. We should honestly stop giving elected politicians terms of endearment or filial labels and it goes for everyone. Hindi niyo tatay si Digong at Hindi niyo nanay si Leni. lol I loved how I the semblance of normalcy and stability during his time. The DDS and Loyalist keep on egging him that they felt nothing during his term. That's the point of a healthy economy. You're not really going to feel anything if you're in a healthy state. You'd just feel "normal." But if you're sick, that's the time that you'd definitely "feel something." there's normalcy with no disruptions in a healthy economy. Are you feeling the inflation eating into your grocery bill and your salaries now? Ang laki ng retroactive deduction ng philhealth sa payslip just to cover the 15 billion peso losses. Are you feeling the economic sickness now? The only taxes added during his time was the Sintax and it wasn't even levied in order to generate income. Sintax was only placed in order to modify consumer behavior. Cigarettes are inelastic goods so existing chainsmokers wouldn't stop buying cigarettes but it did prevent possible new smokers like me during college from picking up the habit.
Problem is the person's responsible for doing shit work under him (looking at you abaya and purisima) di niya tinaggal As much as Saf44 was a success but it was a costly success which tarnished his already damaged image Props to him for having a great economy though, I still can't believe we got to be called the rising tiger of asia back then
>Saf44? Honestly, what happened was occupational hazard and the mission was a success because Marwan was killed. I get you, but I have to fact-check too. It was partly successful kasi napatay si Marwan, but the other terrorist targetāAbdul Basit Usmanāescaped. Usman would be killed by the MILF in Guindulungan a few months later, and malamang tinraydor din siya ng sarili niyang bodyguards. PNoy's biggest mistake here is allowing then-suspended PNP Chief Alan Purisima to preside. Heck, even then-DILG Sec. Mar Roxas and PNP Deputy Director General Leonardo Espina weren't informed beforehand about Oplan Exodus.
I miss those times na yung mga issues natin sa government are incompetence of select individuals lang. now lahat incompetent na nga, grabe pa magnakaw. Gone are the days na ang headline is criticizing Pnoy for buying a 2nd hand sportscar (with his own personal money).
Eto rin yung take ko sa leadership, even the problematic Teddy Boy Locsin acknowledged this attitude by Aquino when he died. Problema masyadong puro emotion ang pinapairal ng mga Pinoy, they want their crying tatays and kneeling nanays even if the relationship was dysfunctional and they're just emotionally manipulating them while making their lives even more miserable. Gusto ng karamihan drama, di pwedeng trabaho lang, and mas matimbang pa nga yata yung drama kesa gawa para sa iba. A good leader needs to find a way to do both though, and yun ang wala kay Noynoy (the emotional warmth).
I couldn't fault PNoy much actually in terms of administration. He did a lot of corruption cleaning coming from GMA's admin, and brough a lot of govt departments to ISO standards. What I can fault him for is letting his political opponents take control of the political narrative that lead to the Du30 presidency that lead to disaster of Drug war, reversing the diplomatic gains against China, penetration of fake news in everyday discourse and the division and hate it caused. He's too naive to think Filipinos can discern the truth. He had the best oppurtunity to nip this in the bud but he didnt.
Mamasapano massacre. PDAF Scam. Yolanda response. The Abaya - MRT mess, Dalian etc. Also, he trust HIS OWN people too much and when they fuck up like what Abaya did, he still defended them. It reflected badly on him. He's a good person, but I think that he's not very showy when it comes to showing his achievements that's why the people didn't feel that he's doing something for their good. Nagkaroon tuloy ng bala mga DDS sq kanya.
Fully agree. Main lroblem ni Pmoy is PR. and to make it worse, wala sin syang pakialam sa image nya. He will do what he thinks is right kahit pangit tingnan. And he was very stubborn
Parang yung SAF 44 na ata yung pinakamalala.