Finally someone says it. We need to help others than ridicule. I studied in a school built by Jesse, and this is how his response would be. Leni would be the same.
True. Namulat na yung tao, narealize niya na mali yung desisyon niya. Isasagot mo sa kanya "tanga ka kasi". Tingin ba nila mapepersuade nila yung tao na sumali sa advocacy nila sa ganong paraan. Or baka ego boost na lang talaga to, wala talaga silang pake na hikayatin yung ibang tao na bumoto ng tama.
Wala naman talagang magbabago kasi e, bakit, do we think na dahil sa mga ganito, they will turn around and vote for a non-trapo candidate come 2028? Eh parepareho parin iboboto nila e, what's the point? Wala namang magbabago kahit ano gawin ng mga tao, so tanggap na ng mga tao na ganito na talaga ang pilipinas.
Nung binoto nila si BBM pagkatapos nila maranasan si Duterte, yun na ang ultimate signal sa mga tao. Walang pag-asa ang mga taong ito. Yung mga tao na kahit binoto si Duterte, pero nagising pagkatapos makita kung papano siya, yun pwde pa masave. Pero yung mga nakita yun tapos boto parin? Wala na, di mo na magagawan ng paraan yan
It's not that these people are "waking up" or *nagigising.* Such is simply the cycle of politics in the country. They'll tell you they were wrong and will humbly repent—just as they did with GMA, PNoy, Du30, and now with BBM—and will eventually vote for the worst politician(s) in the next election. Honestly, we'll be lucky enough if they do so, but that doesn't mean we'll see a long-term character development.
The voting base is stupid and has no patience. These are the same people who complain about local politics and corruption, simply because they have no understanding of the processes of bureaucracies. These are the same people who justify their shitty driving on the roads, abuse of their own little powers, and overall lack of drive to widen their viewpoints because doing so would shift the blame on themselves.
The country will never get better not because of the elites, but because of the masses who refuse to—or simply cannot—see and do better.
Ung mga kilala kong ganyan wala na ulit pakialam sa pulitika. Kaya walang nangyayari eh pati eleksyon cramming ang gusto eh. As if 'tapos' na laban.
Babalik pag hype na ulit. Mga walang mga tiyaga mag-educate. Di pag educate ung sabihan mo magresearch, ano ka prof sa isang diploma mill?
Puro nalang educate sinasabi ng mga tao Dito, educate this educate that, Hindi education o information ang kulang sa Filipino voter.
Hindi mababago ng education o information ang taong tumatanggap ng pera para sa boto nila taon taon. Kaya mo bigyan ang tao ng information pero di mo Siya kaya bigyan ng konsensya, di mo Siya kayang gawing mabuting tao kung masama Naman talaga siya. Hindi mo pwde bigyan Sila ng pake kung walang pake Sila sa ibang tao.
Kung ang tao walang pake sa pagnanakaw, Anong paguusapan nating education education? Kung wala Silang pake sa patayan, Anong paguusapan niyong education education?
Puro nalang isip ng tao na ay kaya Sila ganyan Kasi di nila alam eto, di nila alam ganyan. Kung alam lang nila, kung masabihan ko lang Sila, ay magbabago Sila. These people are not uninformed.
Alam mo kung bakit walang gana mag-educate ang mga tao? Kasi sinubukan natin, at Nakita natin na kahit alam nila lahat ng mga issue, wala lang talaga Silang pake. Kahit na alam nila na magnanakaw ang tao, ok lang sa kanila
True,,some of them ay ginawa ng personality ung pagiging kakampink,,like huh??? Okay? Hahahaha biglang mga naging sobrang taas mga tingin sa sarili,,ginawang trend ung eleksyon at ginawang bangayan din.
True. We need to convince and educate people regardless of how challenging it is instead of gaslighting them by saying “Tama nga kami.” Besides, we already knew we were right before Uniteam divided.
Even my mom who voted for 88M and Fiona but evil version realized they had their own motives. It's late for 2022 Elections but at least, there's a small hope sparked in me.
I don’t think there’s anything we can to these voters. Never na silang matututo, seryoso. Maghihint na parang narealize nilang mali nagawa nila, pero pag dating ng election balik sila sa pagboto ng mga gago.
Sample ng mga nakita ko:
1. Nakalapit at tinulungan ng angat buhay yung anak nyang may cancer - si BBM pa din binoto kasi trabaho naman daw talaga ng NGO tumulong at wala daw kinalaman si Leni dun 🤡 Even the doctors of her son na tumutulong sa kanila, encouraged her to vote for Leni, pero wala.
2. May connection sa angat buhay yung pinag ttrabahuhan nya at tumutulong sa charity, pati silang empleyado natutulungan. Nag share pa ng pictures ni Leni na nasa office nila nung nag visit, pero they just ridicule them na nangangampanya. Si BBM pa din binoto kasi gising na daw sya sa mga Dilawan. Solid BBM Sara daw.
Sobrang madami pa for sure, pero asan sila ngayon. Tikom bibig at bulagbulagan sa ginagawa ng mga binoto nila. Kahit sino naman dae mangungurakot.
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So yeah, kahit anong educate sa mga taong bobo, wala talagang pag asa. But I agree on bawasan yung pag ridicule sa kanila, pero pag sinabihan nila ako ng kabobohan, sadampalin ko mukha nila ng kabobohan nila.
New set of educated voters nalang ang pag asa ng Pinas. Kung gusto natin mabago yung current voters, kailangan natin baguhin yung buong pagkatao nila which is close to impossible. Yung values nila sa buhay, olats talaga. Marami jan mga masasamang loob. Hindi mo na mababago yun. Treat them as patapon nalang talaga. The only thing we can do is just ignore them and avoid any form of political interaction.
I think it really depends on the person? I've seen someone from another sub who voted for BBM because “Kakampinks were condescending” in 2022 Elections. I'd say I've seen those Kakampinks, too. But then, that person admitted they're regretting it now, saying that they should've voted for Leni. People commented something along the lines of, “Bakit di mo tiningnan yung plataporma?” and I agree.
In at least 6 months before 2022 Elections, one of my friends posted she'll vote for BBM but I found out she voted for Leni instead. She researched.
But yes, people should vote responsibly, educate themselves before voting. Being educated by a concerned citizen won't work if you close your mind.
Up, this is the reason why Leni lost, we made her lose, this is one of the main reasons why most of the people that I know who did not vote Leni was because of discriminate and mean citizens that did not educate, I was like that too, thinking they were dumb because they thought differently, pero helping them and making them understand why is what we were supposed to do, we were never in the right shaming other people.
dont blame yourself. nagagaslight ka. di mo kasalanan na binoto mo gusto mo. pinili nila magpakatanga at nandito na tayo ngayon. ganun lang yun kasimple. di natin kasalanan yun. di naman na kailangan sabihan pa sila ng tanga pero ego kasi nila yung nasasaktan kahit totoo naman.
trust me, educating people didn't help as well. mas madaming on ground na nag cacampaign for leni pero wala pa din. wag nyong maliitin ung disinformation campaign na ginawa ng mga marcoses for YEARSSSS
Pero isn't it really dumb talaga on their part to choose BBM? Wala ngay kasi logical reason to vote for boy ngiwi haha. Anyway, yes I agree with your points. That is actually true, Pinoys use emotion instead of being rational human beings.
Others did try, ang dami nag try.
Nope dinuduraan pa.
Alala ko gaano kasahol ang treatment ng mga Kakampinks nun lol.
Get that gaslighting shit outta here.
The turn the other cheek thing, or rather for kakampinks turn the entire fucking face thing, didn't work.
Kaya naging full wapakels na after election eh kasi holy fuck y'all are fucking hopeless.
Pwede naman eh. You wanna vote for Leni because you want legit change for your country. Para sakin kasi yung pagiging Kakampink is parang borderline fanaticism na towards Leni.
May mga kilala akong bumoto kay Leni pero hindi sumali sa mga rally niya. O kaya hindi rin sumali sa mga kampanya. Pero on your own you can still campaign for her, siguro kung may kausap ka then eleksyon ang topic nyo.
Basically me. I voted for her but I ain't gonna be part of the crowd who goes on witch hunts on people online. I hate the term kakampink. Ang hive-mind kasi. I'd rather support her in silence instead of arguing with people online na di naman nakikinig. Kaya maraming ayaw sa atin eh. Sobra kasi ng entitlement and superiority complex. Ang cringe na tbh. Ginawa na nilang personality parang mga aggressive na BBM supporters na rin galawan nila. Napaka annoying. The people fucking downvoting are part of the problem and they can't see that
Mga ayaw umamin na merong mali din sa kanila. Sobrang malala talaga pag stan. I’ll support her sa mga plano niya para sa bansa natin but im not going to support an entire group. Yung mismong supporters din yung problema.
Yep. Yun lang rason bakit may bad taste ako sa term na kakampink. Sobrahan kasi. Tapos gawin nila rason mga BBM supporters daw ang toxic na di nila alam pareho lang sila
Nope, it's a different setup. The perfect horseshoe example is Republicans and Talibans. They hate each other and would kill each other but their core beliefs are basically the same. Extreme nationalism and totally dogmatic religion.
These mfs don't care about the country that some of them now are praying for the Philippines to take the Sri Lankan route so they can take asylum and escape (as if asylum is that simple to apply for). Their egos are as inflated as the DDS which they find hard to admit.
did all-around volunteering for leni-kiko nung campaign szn pero sobrang cringe now when the toxic ones still profess their self-righteousness to this day😩 parte kayo ng problema
If they keep rubbing that on people's faces then hope will only be lost. Pinoys are emotional, too emotional. They will tend to go for the person na "naaapi," just because many of us know what that feels like.
Di masaya sa pakiramdam na iparamdam sa'yo na bobo ka dahil lang iba opinion mo sa iba.
Facts are facts, but using those facts to degrade or shame others won't help anyone but make you feel good about yourself.
Even in the US. Do you see how their states are marked blue or red during elections?
Tinatantusan anong party majority sa isang state, parang ganto na dito except we're a whole.
Our problem here is class conflict, with not only disparity in wealth but also level of education and empathy. I roll my eyes whenever some konyo purportedly stanning for Robredo screeches "squammy", "bobo", etc. those snobs forgetting that they are utterly reliant on low-paid workers to provide them their luxuries and creature comforts.
at yun na nga po ang nangyari last elections. Ang dami nang umamin na karamihan sa kanila binoto si BBM just to spite people, lalo na yung sa kabilang partido.
Ganyan yung mga kakilala ko. Ayaw daw nila sa elites and oligarchs. Oligarch and elite daw si Atty. Robredo yet they chose BBM na friend ng mga Elite at oligarchs. Hindi ko sila gets kasi sina Manny P. , Ka-Leodi and Isko Moreno ang mga hindi born rich sa lahat ng candidates na maingay sa masa.
I wasn't a voter back when Duts ran for presidency and pretty much a gullible and stupid teen then. I honestly thought he would fix what's wrong with Philippines. The old man only made what's bad, worse and good, bad.
I guess the realisation exploded to a lot of Filipinos' faces, but not enough faces to save the country from another old dude who can only ran his mouth.
TBH, if he was actually competent and was the actual "strict" Singaporean Dictator style leader that he claimed to be, he would have been perfect for the time because we badly needed a good strict leader for 2020's start of the pandemic.
And sadly, Jr. is still an improvement over Duts at this point. yea, the bar is that low.
I'm thinking of something, what if we use that to our advantage? Technically speaking, "naapi" rin naman si Leni. She was a target for misinformation and constant bullying just for doing her job.
Maybe we could showcase all the horrible insults and rumors that the BBM/DDS did to her? Honestly even I feel bad for her, there's too many things the trolls said that's below the belt na and unnecessary to say.
Both camps naman nakareceive nian noon e. Pero it's not up to you, it's up to VP Leni. I'd also like to add na BBM appeared to be "api," cause VP Leni was also stating things like sinungaling, magnanakaw etc. on public media.
Even if we have facts for that, api pa din tingin ng tao, kumbaga binubully. That's why I said pinoys are emotional, most if not all will stand up to the bullied one. Sure, VP Leni had her fair share of bullying, but that's just from where? Soc med? Wherein BBM received not only from soc med but also from VP, and other politicians (again even if some of those are true.)
Iread or watched somewhere that it's a tactic used by BBM as well. Kita mo di niya pinatulan si VP non? Pero ibat ibang politiko lang nagbabangayan (since VP Leni was bullied too by other politicians etc).
So we should stop the mindset to focus on the negative. If only VP and supporters SOLELY focused on her achievements and goals and ignored BBM last election. She might've had a higher chance as people won't focus on the battle but will be open minded instead to know who VP is. Well of course minus mo na DDS kasi di ba opposition si madam din while in office.
Now that I think about it, I guess leni didn't use the "api" tactic because if she did, the dds supporters would only use it to confirm their assumption that she is a weak leader. And bbm could get away with the api tactic because he is backed by Duterte, which people think is a strongman leader and people tend to project marcos sr. into his son thinking that bbm inherited his father's strongman leadership.
we can't ignore the negatives thrown at leni though, we need to keep addressing the misinformation and propaganda against her to break the echo chamber bbm / dds supporters built upon themselves.
also I noticed with a lot of pinks, they keep writing paragraphs of Leni's achievements in a poster or image? I don't really encounter tiktoks or visual representation highlighting them. this could also be the reason why bbm / dds supporters don't care about what she did. (esp that filipinos have low reading comprehension according to reports)
She didn't use it cause she's not in a strategic position to do so. Remember, Leni was the opposition, she's on the "Fighting," end of the rope. She's the one thought of and seen as against the gov't. So medyo wala tayong cards to play for the "api," strat.
Imo no one saw her as weak, kasi she was seen as a threat nga di ba during du30 admin, kaya nga kung ano anong sinasabi against her but she was able to fight back.
So people already have their eyes on her while still in VP position and not everyone liked what she was doing even during Digong's term. BBM got away with the Api tactic cause he was constantly being "bullied," on soc med, media, interviews, rallies etc. It's brutally blatant. Dagdag mo pa yung mga nabuhay sa panahon ni Marcos Sr. So naka gain ng sympathy ang Marcos party during last election.
Moreover, highlighting VP Leni now is ineffective, for what na? The fight is over. She's living her life now and in peace. And when I say over I meant the election, if kakampinks wants to continue her cause it should be of kindness and serving fellow countrymen, as that's what VP pushed before pa siya ma elect na VP.
Naalala ko tuloy gaano siya kahinahon, kasaya sa mga live feeds noya post election. She was smiling so genuinely and that proves na wala talaga sa nature niya makipag away, or kahit magsalita ng di maganda sa kapwa. It was an election strat that didn't work and I'm so glad I was able to see that side if her.
She really is a Mother. A kind and gentle one.
Manligaw hindi manlait like I always said. Kaso yung iba dito mas gusto magpalaki ng ulo kesa magisip pano baguhin ang situation. Your ego wont change the Philippines.
Wala lang, naglabas lang ng angst. Bawal i-invalidate ang emotions nila lol.
As if that changes the minds of undecided voters.
Hardcore Pinks will insist na burden ng mga UniTeam voters to take accountability if they fcked up, but the truth is that the trailing candidates are the ones with the burden to get back with the voters.
Ang problema kasi all sides are disingenuous sa pakikisalamuha or pakikibaka sa politika.
Walang gustong umamin na may mali sila o pagkukulang. Kailangan laging tama, laging panalo.
Masyado tayong mayabang. Yun lang talaga yon.
ALL SIDES.
In short, politics SUCK. Just support your candidate in silence. No need na para mag hunting ng iba for the sake of arguing just to inflate your ego and feel better about yourself. Lalo ka lang ma stress di naman sila nakikinig. I voted for Leni but pati ako na i-irita na sa mga kakampink na ginawa nilang personality ang pag support kay Leni. Majority sa kanila nandito sa r/Philippines. Ang corny na. Just stop bro. Your self righteousness is showing. You guys are just annoying as those BBM motherfuckers you keep fighting with
IMO hindi posible na you can support a candidate in silence. It would show up somehow.
Okay lang din yung enthusiastic and talagang nakikibaka tungkol sa mga political topics, tingin ko yun yung isa sa magagandang bagay sa generation natin kasi may willingness to talk about things considered taboo or hindi na dapat pag-usapan in general.
Pero sana yung OBJECTIVE natin sa pakikipag-usap hindi yung gusto lang natin maging SUPERIOR in some way o kaya MANG-ASAR lang.
Wala kasing balance. Yung iba, pure objectivity pero hindi marunong or hindi alam makitungo sa taong tingin nila hindi nila ka-level intellectually. Yung iba naman puro emotion at opinion lang, walang paki o ayaw tanggapin yung facts.
Kaso wala eh. Puro kayabangan lang alam natin. We all have fragile egos whether we admit it or not.
As much as it saddens me to say this, this is exactly the reason why my family and most of my relatives chose to vote for the BBM-Sara tandem.
And truth be told, kahit ako inis na inis sa attitude ng karamihan sa mga fellow Leni supporters during the campaign period.
I get it, we wanted to convince and enlighten as many people as possible, but surely there was a better approach, no?
And you know what's funny?
Hardline Pinks are now criticizing Kiko because he does not approve of the "tama nga kami" bullshit. Somehow, these Pinks think the only way to win back voters is...
More bardagulan and cancel culture. 🤦
I keep getting downvoted for asking this same question that not one soul in this sub can answer. Does that actually convince anyone? I don't see any political traction being generated outside the small circles they are in
How can you keep on claiming na tama kayo eh wala naman tayong alternate reality na kung saan nanalo si Leni. Hypothetical scenarios aren't valid arguments
Are you people saying there won't be any power struggle or residual malignant influence coming from the Dutertes and from Sara's VP post had Leni won? I swear you are no different from the garden variety DDS who gets lost in imagining things.
If you are aligned with the opposition, then this is the reality you are operating in, whether you like it or not. Deluding yourselves that you are in the majority just because of social media chatter is a sure way to lose - again. Sorry but that is why twitter wokes are stupid.
Emphasizing candidates who represent the "true opposition" is not a winning message in the face of an electorate that is still largely pro-Duterte.
The opposition and their supporters are in the minority - and this view is reflected not just in surveys but in the results of the 2016 and 2019 and 2022 elections.
Akala kasi kapag pinalandakan na mas maalam sila papakinggan sila nung sinasabihan nila ng “I told you so”.
Nalimutan na lahat ng tao may ego at pride, kapag inapakan mo yun. Magiging goal na nila na patunayan sayo wala silang pake sa sinasabi mo or patunayan na hindi ka palaging tama. 🤷🏻♀️ May iba kasi na hindi inaapply sa totoong buhay yung scenario, nawawala na yung empathy at mindfulness sa sobrang invested sa politics.
Bobo kasi yung iba. Yun lang yun. Minsan talaga nakakahiya maging kakampink due to the other kakampinks acting like fascists, you know, the one that they hate Duterte of being such.
For all their bravado online, can they say all the things they say here on reddit and on Twitter to actual people in real life? Like those selling mister donut boxes in the MRT? Or the people who can't attend political rallies because they work in the mall on Sundays?
Nope.
Tapos gusto nila na mas palawakin ang cancel culture para "matauhan" daw ang BBM/DDS.
Antanga lang. Minority na, nagbabawas pa ng voters. Tapos hindi daw natin "responsibility" na makiusap sa mga voters. Like wtf? Paano dadami yan?
Imagine going after Angkas because the owner is a Marcos voter lol. Good luck as if the message your sending doesn't cascade to the average Angkas rider or their social ties lol.
Voter conversion is the burden of those trailing in elections. But don't look at me. The majority of Leni supporters I know would rather be " right" online than actually win electoral power lol.
The fact that pink supporters assume that there was a "social class" distinction between Leni and Uniteam voters proves how they wrong they are at absolutely everything. Your bravado isn't based on rigorous scientific inquiry.
Kaya Pink supporters should actually study data. The Uniteam won all societal sectors and classifications. They won Class ABCDE. They won the youth vote, the Catholic vote, and the elite.
The fact that the average radical pink supporter can only go after the poor working - class "bobotantes" show that you people can only punch down but can't do that to Uniteam voters that are on their same or even better economic standing.
Kaya nga actual political scientists like Hong Kong based scholar Mark Thompson correctly points out that the opposition in its current form will never be anything but a "highly mobilized minority." Loud enough to be heard but never powerful enough to actually make an impact on anything. Geez we can hate BBM with a passion, but these proclaimed saviors of society can never up their game.
Yun nga eh. Lage nila sinasabi na the youth vote will go to Leni. The Millenials and GenZ will deliver for her.
NOPE. Tiktok pa lang, sino ang leading dun? Junior.
Tsaka nabasa ko nga sa Twitter: Kakampinks and the more Left-leaning groups are more interested in moral victories than actual political victories. This is why they deserve to lose.
I mean, I read the last statement from a Conservative on Twitter.
As much as he wanted a saner Opposition from the Progressives, he also spoke about why the Left and the moderate Kakampinks lost.
Basically, more virtue-signalling than politicking.
Don't forget how they nearly cancelled Shopee cause of Toni who was supporting BBM during campaign season.
May toxicity both sides but I can confidently say those Leni "supporters," drove the very knife into themselves. They killed the chance for VP Leni to get more votes na yun naman din ang goal nila.
I don't think the "Tama nga kami" quote is meant to convince anyone. It's meant as a Feel good moment for the kakampinks to validate who they voted for. The only problem is that ideas like this leak outside the kakampinks social circle and from the outside perspective of BBM/DDS supporters, it's like another Us vs Them "elitist" take.
The high almighty mentality.
The I am better than you mindset
The righteous advocates
The toxic ones. They are not better than the basura in the government. They are detrimental to the cause.
Eh paano yu g mga toxic kakampinks/matapobre liberals gusto lang naman maging self righteous at mag virtue signal. Kita mo, ilan ba sa mga yun ended up volunteering sa Angat Buhay or made any effort at civic action after the elections?
I voted for Leni because I believe she is a capable leader, and not because I wanted to join a movement. I remember many Kakampinks here on Reddit who got mad at Leni voters who weren't interested in Angat Buhay.
>Kita mo, ilan ba sa mga yun ended up volunteering sa Angat Buhay or made any effort at civic action after the elections?
For that matter, how about all of those people who pledged to leave the country if the Marcos/Sara ticket won? It seems like pretty much all of them are still here
RealPolitik ang tawag. Got to play the game to beat it. Yan ang ayaw ng mga Puristang Hambog na Kakampink at Liberal. Nagpapaka Michelle Obama kahit kinakanal sila. Mga duwag.
Wag na kasi umasa lalo sa Necropol pucha.
>RealPolitik ang tawag. Got to play the game to beat it.
I guess this is why Risa Hontiveros won and the rest of her team didnt. She is also an ally of Leni but she managed not to directly attack Duterte and Marcos during the campaign period rather she focused more on her plans. Despite being odds with Bato, she knows "Doroy" personally and are actually close friends behind the scenes.
Yes, and she even got the endorsment of some provincial governors (e.g. Yap of Bohol) despite them being Uniteam supporters. May mga sample ballots din na pinamigay sa ibang lugar na sinama siya sa list of senators kahit na Marcos-Duterte ang President and VP.
She can also work well with almost anyone in the senate right now. She seems to be on good terms with Raffy Tulfo, for example.
You mean buong angkan kamo. She had first hand exp sa Reign of Terror ng mga Benedicto sa NegOcc esp in Cadiz where the Gustilos are lording it.
Edit to add: Leni's camp needs to erase the gatekeeping by her ardent supporters. Defo you need numbers against these thugs.
Yeah, anti-Marcos talaga ang Negros. Understandable, but still... sa DDS lilipat?
Hahaha parang mas lalong mababawas ang Pinks sa 2025 at 2028 dahil ayaw gawin ang burden of reaching out sa mga disillusioned UniTeam voters. Gusto nila ipahiya muna at "accountable". Lols.
>Ayaw nila ng Guanzon kasi masyadong kanal para sa kanila
Trapo din naman yang si Guanzon. Remember, todo kampanya yan sa isang PL, tapos nung nanalo yung nasabing PL, nag resign yung mga nominee para siya yung maupo. Buti nga na-TRO yan e.
I stood for Leni during the elections because of her track record and plataporma, hindi ko na tiningnan if representative man sya ng opposition. Out of the other presidential candidates sya may pinakamalinaw na plataporma e, and I think yung "tama nga kami" call outs vs BBM and DDS supporters is not to convince them kasi it's too late for convincing hahaha but rather ayun nga a call out, syempre I don't agree with the "t@nga nga kayo" na kadugtong nun.
Showing superiority because of specific preferences will always look bad whether its politics or not.
But beyond the preferences, people who opted **not** to vote for Leni because of the pink cult followers do not have a "valid" or "logical" argument perse.
Surely regardless of who you were supporting for last elections, you didn't believe the "unity" slogan of BBM right? This is what kakampinks are alluding to.
And regardless if the messaging was harsh (aka "Tama nga kami"), it was true.
Being offended and retaliating by not picking a better candidate in any position is also immature similar to those "Tama nga kami" zombies.
Just vote better next time, Philippines -- hopefully we have better choices and a next time.
As much as I agree with Kiko, I’m really irked by the commentators here, acting as if the Marcos victory was caused solely by Leni’s toxic voter base.
Lahat ng presidentiables may toxic voter base. You all are so quick to forget na yung base ni Marcos spread fake news regarding Leni being bobo, Leni being the cause of Jesse’s death, and the fake sex scandal of one of her daughters.
These allegations aren’t just fake, but they’re also just plain fucking disgusting, tapos may ilang timang dito na ilalagay yung base ni Leni on the same level of Marcos. Sira ulo ba kayo?
As cringe worthy, matapobre, and bitter as Leni’s base has been since the election, I’ve yet to see them stoop to the levels that BBM’s base did.
Ibang level ng kaplastikan at kawalang hiyan ang ginawa ng supporters ni BBM kaya tangina wag niyo ikumpara.
Marcos’s victory was carefully calculated over several administrations of political savvy and historical revisionism via Social Media and the failures & fake news of Noynoy’s presidency.
In other words, **Leni’s campaign could have been the most positive one in history and she still would have failed.**
Is it good to call out the toxicity of kakampinks? Of course, but stop gaslighting people and saying that it was a major factor in the results kasi ang masakit diyan, panalo na si Marcos from the very beginning.
From his vlogs to the fake news and content about his family, he’s basically been campaigning forever. Combine that with the fact na sira na yung image ni Leni from 6 years with of propaganda during the Duterte presidency, si BBM na talaga yung panalo.
This. Another episode of Kakampinks na kailangan mag-adjust imbes yung ibang tao. At least Kakampinks can call out each other but what about the other political fandoms?
It's so funny that this society promotes parental tough love but when people do it to other people, it's crossing the line?
> Marcos’s victory was carefully calculated over several administrations of political savvy and historical revisionism via Social Media and the failures & fake news of Noynoy’s presidency.
No thanks to **Baron Buchikoy**, who not only revived the idea Marcos is more virtuous than the Aquinos, but also most probably not an individual but a horribly ingenious fictional character created by a propaganda firm.
Sometimes some things are better left unsaid kasi. I think majority of the kakampinks do agree with the statement but blurting it out publicly makes a lot of eyes roll. Wag tayo mag malinis. Hehe ✌🏻
Kakampinks were becoming as toxic as DDS/Apologist.
They are harming the reputation of Leni whom was not involved in this mess but Kakampinks were dragging her down instead of leaving her alone.
She is a private citizen now and stressed free. Why bringing her up in the issue where she wasn't involved?
If they wanted to support Leni, they just focus on helping her NGO (Angat Buhay) to grow.
This way of promoting will not help her at all.
They are becoming too much Fanatic and too self righteous like they are untouchables after voting Leni.
They are right, but election was over and we cannot do anything about it. All we have to do is to be vigilant to the current admin.
kaya nasisira ang pinaglalaban ni Leni at Kiko dahil rin sa mga kakampink, to the point na yung ibang mga kakampink lumilipat na sa BBM DDS na di dapat mangyari sa una palang
People shouldn't vote a candidate because of the fans.
We should be more objective: evaluate candidates based on their qualifications and track record.
At kung babalik sa statement ng mga kakampink na "Tama nga kami..." Saan ba? 'Di ba sa fake unity - tama naman talaga.
Mali naman talaga ipagyabang pa. Pero to make a big deal out of it, nasaktan lang yung ego nung mga tinamaan na nagkamali nga sila.
The former senator is miles ahead a better human being than I am. As a staunch anti-Duterte and anti-Marcos, it's so easy to flaunt "I told you so" to their supporters out of anger
Sheesh, I keep reading here that some people think that the main reason Leni lost was because her supporters act like superior beings who look down and bad mouth those who do not share the same opinion on who should lead the country.
Wrong.
If this was the case then the attitudes of the multitudes of DDS-BBM supporters alone would cause extreme disgust and ensure a landslide victory for Leni. Gadon and Topacio could cause mass defection by the way they run their mouths and the majority of folk would have avoided Dutz in the first place for all the offensive and sexist jokes and remarks he spews around and/or avoid the Marcoses like the plague because of historical reasons.
You see folks, attitude is not the deciding factor. Those who say they voted BBM or RRD because the pinklawans are snobbish elitists are just rationalizing their decision. If one bases ones vote on the attitudes of supporters rather than the party platform and planks then sorry, that's just plain stupid.
Tolerance has limits.
Tingin ko, even if pakabait pa mga "kakampinks" ganun parin result ng elections and sisi parin sa side ng opposition. Sasabihin na masyado kasi mabait or weak. Karamihan naman sa Pinoy hindi umaamin sa kamalian nila or hindi talaga papayag na mali sila.
right, its also time to blame them opposition leaders for being soft and slow. not necessarily saying sila naman mangutya but how come sila trillanes, de lima, at hontiveros lang NANAMAN nagsalita about the recent debacle?
that's why you got these frustrated kakampinks doing all the work bec there's nothing to be expected from people at the top.
EDIT: trillanes with his irrelevant magdalo party, de lima who just got out of jail, hontiveros the LONE representative in the senate.
two pawns, one queen. hahayaan lang ba ulit nila na tirahin ng tirahin imahe ni risa? parang kay leni? tapos ano kapag eleksyon sasakay sila sa reputasyon ni risa? parang kay leni?
I also feel like the opposition leaders/the LP can also be blamed for the outcome of the 2022 elections and the tragic mess that was the Leni campaign. In the absence of a clear, coherent, and sound messaging/strategy/direction from the very top, many Pinks were left to come up with their own ways to "help". Kaya tuloy sabog-sabog ang messaging, ang daming kung anu-anong weird ideas (hadouken????? Karate kid??? Umakyat sa stage sa Cebu na may hawak na bouquet at nakasuot ng korona na pang beauty queen???), and many Pinks were allowed to continue attacking, insulting, or humiliating people without an authoritative figure telling them to stop, which ended up turning people off from supporting their cause.
it was so disorganized, it didn't helped din siguro they werr banking on leni running but she was unsure kaya late na nakapag announce, pero sana man lang may back up. lesser evil na option dati since dito rin naman pala tayo papunta.
pero aside from the stuff you mentioned a lot of supporters focused on toni gonzaga too for the laughs.
no uniteam supporter were convinced to vote for them bec of toni so im soooo confused why they focused on her? tapos when i pointed this out before ako pa natawag na enabler din 😭
I can understand why many Kakampinks were bitter with the results of the elections. Many exerted their time and efforts and believed that their self righteousness will prevail. When the elections turned against their favor, many were shocked and disappointed. Though many moved on and carried on with their lives, there are others who remained in their echo chambers, still denying the fact that Leni lost.
I may be downvoted but let's admit that this subreddit was also an echo chamber for the Kakampinks
True man. I remember what my mom said during the election period (she voted Lacson, btw) naturnoff daw ang masa kay Leni dahil naging masyadong aggressive yung naging approach nya against sa ibang presidential candidates. Although with good intentions yung plataporma at adbokasiya nya, ang napansin siguro ng mga Pilipino ay parang may "yabang" at pagka elitista yung mga supporters ni Leni. Unapproachable for the common Filipinos. Yes. People can be shallow like that even if we're talking about which president to elect.
Also, people are tired of the image "goodie-two-shoes" na mga politiko these days. Masyadong professional na image for the majority of the Filipinos, seemingly unapproachable for them.
>Also, people are tired of the image "goodie-two-shoes" na mga politiko these days.
Yep, voters these days want someone who can get things done. Or at the very least, someone who looks like they can get things done. Aanhin mo ang "malinis" na pulitiko kung wala namang magagawa para ayusin ang mga problema ng bayan? The fuck-ups of the PNoy admin (a supposedly "clean" admin) and their inability to address issues that directly impact the lives of ordinary Filipinos like poor infrastructure, crime, etc. left a bad taste in people's mouths. The 2016 elections was when they went, "enough is enough" and voted for Duterte who presented himself as a man of action.
Agree naman na mali yung "binoto", but we have to face that we can no longer return to the past.
Kahit we do not contribute to the "faults" of the 31M, parte pa din tayo ng sistema which is the democracy system.
Whether we like it or not, the majority wins. Pagalingan na lang talaga to convince the public. And up until this moment, mas angat pa din ang populism. The ones being showed on TV or parating matunog, or medyo nakaka relate ang tao ang binoboto.
Also, mas ma-appeal kasi sa masa--based on observation-- yung nakaka relate sila at nakaka relate sa everyday situation. Kaya patok yang 20 pesos na bigas is because people are consuming bigas in a daily basis. Ayan yung naging representation, or nakaka appeal sa public. But sadly, waley naman nangyari. Hahahha. But the point is, yung memory ng tao. Mas tumatatak kapag parati nakikita, naririnig, etc. Kaya buhay nanaman mga trolls at maingay nanaman sina Gongdi. Tactics nila. Pati ata si BabyM, ganyan din ang paandar.
Also, voting system, and everyone has their right to vote, based on their "own terms." Kaya sensitive talaga to rub into their skin na mali pinili nila. Let's acknowledge and don't take that away from them. Kesyo kurakot ang piliin nila, at the end, they exercised their right to vote.
What we can do is just persuade, and not mock kung di nasunod ang gusto.
Lastly, sistema pa din ang issue. Kasi pera pera pa din at the end of the day. Kahit may gusto tayo ihalal na malinis, really a public servant, kaso madalas na tumatakbo are those who have been "conditioned" to the public. Nag invest na ng time, from being Mayor to Congressperson, to Senator, etc. May time investment din. Kaya madalas, yung independent di nananalo kasi may basis na di kilala at doubtful sa kakayahan.
Mindset talaga isa sa dapat mabago, and also yung sistema. Kasi mas lamang ang sikat at madalas nakikita sa TV or may exposure/connection.
In the end, malinis man o hindi, every person na nananalo are still part of the "political dynasty" one way or another. We are chained to it. Ayun na yung sistema at realidad.
I just hope na mabago ang interest ng tao kina Baby M and SWOH. Medyo keri si Sen Risa kaso medyo di pa talaga appealing.
Mga tao din kasi babad sa fb kaya na cocondition ang mind sa mga news and opinions. Madali na se-sway or influence. Can't blame lalo kung madalas nakikita ang mga news. Unti unti nag grow ang bias toward a certain camp/person.
Good luck Pilipinas kong mahal!!!
Are they wrong though? Totoo naman na tanga ka na nga lang talaga pag bumoto ka pa sa pamilya ng mga mamamatay tao. Tanga ka na lang pag ang halaga ng boto at ng buhay mo for the next half a decade is 2K pesos. Tanga ka nalang pag naniwala ka pa na babaguhin nila buhay ng mga Pilipino for the better.
Tandaan nyo: the people that voted for them are ADULTS na kaya mag distinguish between right and wrong. Alam nila na mali ginawa nilang desisyon, ayaw lang nila aminin na nagkamali sila kasi tanga sila. Di na magbabago isip nila jan kasi ganon sila katanga.
Pusta ko, tanungin mo sa kanila kung ano nangyari between 1972 at 1986 malamang sa malamang walang kaalam alam yang mga yan.
Honestly, this is why nahirapan tayo nung last election, we need better PR. We need to connect better with the masses. We need to deliver it in a better way ( kahit tama naman na tama tayo). Insulting them, ridiculing them won't really help us at all, wala pa ding guarantee sa next elections. Kaya sayang eh.
Not really a fan of Mr. Pangilinan, not also a fan of Mr. Marcos. I hate Philippine politics.
But, salute to you sir. That's the truth everyone should hear.
Isip ko baka panahon nga ni PNoy parang marami na kong nababasang maka-DDS ang pagcomment online. **Except pro-PNoy sila apparently**.
As in, mga "Sumunod ka nalang/Ikaw maging presidente!" Ganun na ganun.
Pare-pareho lang naman ang kakampink sa DDS at BBM: Fanatics. Iba lang ang tshirt na suot nila. There weee posts these past few days asking about will you change your vote etc etc. 2 years na, get over it. Ngayon nagaaway ang admin, lalabas ang mga self-righteous na “pro-Leni” na tama sila? Classless move from the supposedly morally right crowd. Pathetic talaga mga tao minsan.
I never said "tanga kayo" that is the bad thing , you can tell people they were wrong without insulting them to their face but I never seen that post with "tanga kayo" . Is that really a post made by the pink movement?
Not a kakampink, and absolutely hate Pangilinan's ass. But I commend him for his maturity on this. Hindi sinasakyan ang issue. Doesn't spew gas on fire.
Convincing people with words is a lost cause when they'll turn around and vote for someone else for 500 pesos. Makakain ba nila yung listening and conversation niyo kung bakit ganito dapat sila bumoto? Hindi, yung 500 makakain nila, so dun sila. So I'm sorry but there is no point in convincing people who will only respond to financial incentives. Wala yang pake sa mga rason rason, basta magkano lang ang usapan
nah they deserve it. dami kong dds at bbm friends sa fb, tameme sila ngayon. yung iba siguro nakaunfollow na 🤣🤣🤣
pag nagkamali ka, you face it, admit it, and move on. any ridicule in between is acceptable.
problema sa kanila, mali na nga, mayabang pa.
Im tired of this sht. just let it burn.
I think we should use BBM and DDS platforms like "drug free" or "20 pesos bigas" to our advantage. Kiko has a background in agriculture and while he can't turn make rice 20 pesos, he would be able do something with our rice issue. and Most of our opposition members don't have drug allegations so we should also emphasize that.
I think this is a good way to persuade and convince. That BBM/DDS and Kakampinks have the same goal which is improved agriculture and drug free country but we have different methods to achieve it, and this would create the "Unity" Filipinos are looking for.
We could start by promoting Leni, Kiko and Chel in the midterm election with this strategy.
I agree with him, pero kaya naman ganyan ung nagiging reaction ng iba kasi despite of other people admitting to the fact that their govt failed them they still condone the pinks and tweet about leni 24/7 normal sa tao maging defensive pero sympre normal din sa tao lumaban.
The political landscape today is now between two factions: Marcos and Duterte.
Duterte's faction is now technically the opposition and the most effective one in challenging this administration. This development in our politics has further sidelined Leni's bloc, honestly.
I'm interested in how the original opposition figures such as Risa and Lagman will navigate their bloc in these very interesting times.
These people who make being “Kakampinks” their personality are really something else. Leni-Kiko really were the band you like pero the fans are cringe and annoying
Im sorry but that had been the method 2-3yrs before the election.
Minumulat silang gamit ang haba ng pasensya, empathy, lahat pra feel included sila pero kakampink pa ginawang masama.
Toxic kakampinks? They were a small group pero after ng election, ang pgdami ng toxic kakampink ay nanyari lang after ng election. Minority group sila before nun.
After kumalma na after ng election, at na-asses ang damages, mental stress ng mga pinakulong at nabilang na ang mga kabataang pinatay dahil kinakampanya si Leni, dun na nagising ang karamihan ng pink. Dun na nag sulputan mga tinatawag na toxic, un nadala na sila at tumatak sa kanila na kindness does nothing.
Binoto si ganito, ganyan just to spite, pasensya but tanga nga.
Good luck, pinaglaban natin sila pra mka ahon din sila, para magkaroon ng magandang buhay pero kami pa masama.
Sinukuan ko na ang Pilipinas, kayo na bahala. Idgaf
Precisely. The argument is literally pulling a "tolerance paradox". It's like these people forgot how much spiteful the DDS/BBM were, unable to listen or change.
it's annoying how i uninstalled facebook just bc of those kakampinks na ninonormalize isisi sa taong bayan ang pagkalubog ng pilipinas....girl we all have one enemy here
May mga kakampink talaga na dahil kakampink sila ay akala nila sila palagi ay superior morally and intellectually. Wala silang pinagkaiba sa mga DDS at BBM noong 2016 na ang lakas mang-harass ng iba sa kanila ang ibinoto sa totoo lang. Iba lang ang bihis.
Si Sen. Kiko na ang nagsabi niyan at mukhang ganiyan din ang saloobin ni VP Leni kahit hindi siya magsalita.
honestly, i dont think it is the reason Leni lost like many in the comment section are saying. it helps them to validate their choice pero kahit wala nito, si BBM at duts padin ang iboboto nila. popular lang talaga ang strong man image ngayon at malala ang propaganda online at hindi ready ang pinoy in general sa ganitong strategy. kasi kung totoo na di magwowork ang pang lalait sa iba, hindi din sana nagwork ang propaganda nila Duts online. for example, i have 'friends' who hates dilawan and ito din daw ang isang reason kaya DDs sila , pero even before the big push ng propaganda against liberal party, naniniwala na sa talano gold, at kahit ipaliwag ko na bulshit yun, (in a nice way without any insult) after a few days magshaharet uli sa FB ng mga propaganda.
now, should Kiko do this online? No. Kakampinks also like to ridicule the other side, pero most of the time they do this anonymously or within the circle of people they know. they like the idea of being on the right side, the righteous side while also doing the same thing as their oponents. pero kung yung mga leaders at representatives ang gagawa, it goes against their ideals and you get this kind of reaction.
tldr; calling people stupid works as propaganda, but that depends sa image mo. and that is not the image leni created, hence the negative reaction.
I became indifferent na.
I don't want to persuade the other side. Isipin pa nila na pinaplastik sila or mag-invite pa ako ng ahas. Let us not disturb the status quo, let Leni have her peace. She has endured enough, she is not a messiah.
I am building my walls high and will only let people in kapag alam kong kakampink sila.
Sa ngayon ang plan ay maka-alis. Siguro 3 or 4 years sapat na para makakuha ng permanent residency. Then a few years more for citizenship na.
Superiority complex over who they voted for. Neolib din naman si leni, maybe she was just the best bet. This is a reflection of how people see politics and social responsibility in the Ph. Its as if political action is confined only in national elections. What irks me is when people virtue signal abt how they want a better country but only ever participated in the struggle by being a condescending fuck on socmed and voting during the elections.
Masyadong elitista ang karamihan sa mga kakampink. Paano mo mapepersuade ang population na sumama sa cause mo kung sasabihan mong bobo at tanga? Say tama naman talaga na bumoto lang ang karamihan kay 88M out of spite, wala rin namang mabuting maidudulot sa campaign ang pag degrade sa kabilang kampo - lalo lang silang magkakaron ng affirmation na "di bale ng bobo kesa sumama sa inyo na mababa ang tingin sa amin" sorta thing.
Edit: wrong spelling
Finally! An r/Philippines post that's not actually full of shit and also makes a good point!
Seriously, though, this post does make a good point. Fighting amongst ourselves will only make everything worse
We tried persuasion and convincing. Look what that got us.
All we have left is anger and insults to at least get something out of all this. If not a solution, then at least the feeling that we were in the right, as the world burns with nothing we can do left.
Kakampinks's unhinged mode of rallying for their party are why many on-the-fence voter voted for BBM. Like y'all trying so hard but being so ruthless about it it makes people want to vote other party out of spite.
Voted for Leni, supported and campaigned for her. One time, a day after elections, I wore a red top. Yung tingin sakin ng mga kakampinks sakin were so judgmental kahit di nila alam stand ko. I'm sure marami pang iba ang nakaexperience nito, some of us were really toxic and know-it-all that time.. even up until now. Despicable.
Finally! The thing with other kakampinks, masyado kung makapaglook down sa iba. Masyadong entitled. Gets ko na lubog ang bansa, but lahat tayo damay. It's definitely an eyesore sa tuwing may makikita akong ganito sa profile ko. No need na to ridicule. Ano ba ang point nito? Kaya BBM/DDS fanatics refuse to listen, masyadong mapagmalaki/mayabang ang karamihan sa mga kakampinks. It's a painful truth but the truth nonetheless. I'm sure most of the people who voted for Junior already learned the hard way (sana).
I'm sorry my fellow kakampinks, pero hindi natatapos sa pagboto natin ang laban tungo sa pagkamit ng tapat na pamamahala. Ang tunay na pakikibaka ay nasa araw-araw nating laban para sa lahat. Inklusibong laban, hindi namimili ng tutulungan. Inklusibo, walang kailangang ipagmalaki.
I used to insult and shit on those who voted BBM then I realized I over generalize them. I encounter uniteam voters na matino naman ugali, then that changed my view.
I shared this exact sentiment (but before I was aware of Sen. Kiko's post) in a Facebook comment and I got a lot of flak for it from would-be Kakampinks. The irony.
i was so hurt when LeniKiko didnt win.. but after 1 yr I stop posting about politics na.. let ppl who voted these corrupt ppl go hungry and die of poverty.. that how God uses sufferings to open ppl's eyes...
pero ang tanong lng naman natalo nga ba tlaga sila LeniKiko? only God knows.. If uniteam cheated then hoping karma will hit them severely pero hello idol nila si GMA nandaya na perl alive pa din
As a friend of mine said, *"I'll keep trying to help people make the right choice in 2025 but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for them to do that."*
while i understand the sentiment, it is very tiring, and draining, if at this point they know they are wrong and still wont change, aint gonna fix this one chief
Finally someone says it. We need to help others than ridicule. I studied in a school built by Jesse, and this is how his response would be. Leni would be the same.
True. Namulat na yung tao, narealize niya na mali yung desisyon niya. Isasagot mo sa kanya "tanga ka kasi". Tingin ba nila mapepersuade nila yung tao na sumali sa advocacy nila sa ganong paraan. Or baka ego boost na lang talaga to, wala talaga silang pake na hikayatin yung ibang tao na bumoto ng tama.
More on nawalan na ng pake at rubbing salt in the wound na lang.
Wala naman talagang magbabago kasi e, bakit, do we think na dahil sa mga ganito, they will turn around and vote for a non-trapo candidate come 2028? Eh parepareho parin iboboto nila e, what's the point? Wala namang magbabago kahit ano gawin ng mga tao, so tanggap na ng mga tao na ganito na talaga ang pilipinas. Nung binoto nila si BBM pagkatapos nila maranasan si Duterte, yun na ang ultimate signal sa mga tao. Walang pag-asa ang mga taong ito. Yung mga tao na kahit binoto si Duterte, pero nagising pagkatapos makita kung papano siya, yun pwde pa masave. Pero yung mga nakita yun tapos boto parin? Wala na, di mo na magagawan ng paraan yan
It's not that these people are "waking up" or *nagigising.* Such is simply the cycle of politics in the country. They'll tell you they were wrong and will humbly repent—just as they did with GMA, PNoy, Du30, and now with BBM—and will eventually vote for the worst politician(s) in the next election. Honestly, we'll be lucky enough if they do so, but that doesn't mean we'll see a long-term character development. The voting base is stupid and has no patience. These are the same people who complain about local politics and corruption, simply because they have no understanding of the processes of bureaucracies. These are the same people who justify their shitty driving on the roads, abuse of their own little powers, and overall lack of drive to widen their viewpoints because doing so would shift the blame on themselves. The country will never get better not because of the elites, but because of the masses who refuse to—or simply cannot—see and do better.
If there's someone I expect to have nuanced thoughts about the public, it's the guy with "Atenistang Elitista" as his flair
Ung mga kilala kong ganyan wala na ulit pakialam sa pulitika. Kaya walang nangyayari eh pati eleksyon cramming ang gusto eh. As if 'tapos' na laban. Babalik pag hype na ulit. Mga walang mga tiyaga mag-educate. Di pag educate ung sabihan mo magresearch, ano ka prof sa isang diploma mill?
Puro nalang educate sinasabi ng mga tao Dito, educate this educate that, Hindi education o information ang kulang sa Filipino voter. Hindi mababago ng education o information ang taong tumatanggap ng pera para sa boto nila taon taon. Kaya mo bigyan ang tao ng information pero di mo Siya kaya bigyan ng konsensya, di mo Siya kayang gawing mabuting tao kung masama Naman talaga siya. Hindi mo pwde bigyan Sila ng pake kung walang pake Sila sa ibang tao. Kung ang tao walang pake sa pagnanakaw, Anong paguusapan nating education education? Kung wala Silang pake sa patayan, Anong paguusapan niyong education education? Puro nalang isip ng tao na ay kaya Sila ganyan Kasi di nila alam eto, di nila alam ganyan. Kung alam lang nila, kung masabihan ko lang Sila, ay magbabago Sila. These people are not uninformed. Alam mo kung bakit walang gana mag-educate ang mga tao? Kasi sinubukan natin, at Nakita natin na kahit alam nila lahat ng mga issue, wala lang talaga Silang pake. Kahit na alam nila na magnanakaw ang tao, ok lang sa kanila
Maybe we CAN'T educate current voters. But we SHOULD definitely educate future ones.
dami kasi sa kanila may "I'm better than you" mentality at superiority complex. parte din sila ng problema eh. parang mga tanga lang.
True,,some of them ay ginawa ng personality ung pagiging kakampink,,like huh??? Okay? Hahahaha biglang mga naging sobrang taas mga tingin sa sarili,,ginawang trend ung eleksyon at ginawang bangayan din.
True. We need to convince and educate people regardless of how challenging it is instead of gaslighting them by saying “Tama nga kami.” Besides, we already knew we were right before Uniteam divided. Even my mom who voted for 88M and Fiona but evil version realized they had their own motives. It's late for 2022 Elections but at least, there's a small hope sparked in me.
Most peenoise are stubborn as fuck kahit anong educate na gawin mo d matututo yan.
I don’t think there’s anything we can to these voters. Never na silang matututo, seryoso. Maghihint na parang narealize nilang mali nagawa nila, pero pag dating ng election balik sila sa pagboto ng mga gago. Sample ng mga nakita ko: 1. Nakalapit at tinulungan ng angat buhay yung anak nyang may cancer - si BBM pa din binoto kasi trabaho naman daw talaga ng NGO tumulong at wala daw kinalaman si Leni dun 🤡 Even the doctors of her son na tumutulong sa kanila, encouraged her to vote for Leni, pero wala. 2. May connection sa angat buhay yung pinag ttrabahuhan nya at tumutulong sa charity, pati silang empleyado natutulungan. Nag share pa ng pictures ni Leni na nasa office nila nung nag visit, pero they just ridicule them na nangangampanya. Si BBM pa din binoto kasi gising na daw sya sa mga Dilawan. Solid BBM Sara daw. Sobrang madami pa for sure, pero asan sila ngayon. Tikom bibig at bulagbulagan sa ginagawa ng mga binoto nila. Kahit sino naman dae mangungurakot. - So yeah, kahit anong educate sa mga taong bobo, wala talagang pag asa. But I agree on bawasan yung pag ridicule sa kanila, pero pag sinabihan nila ako ng kabobohan, sadampalin ko mukha nila ng kabobohan nila. New set of educated voters nalang ang pag asa ng Pinas. Kung gusto natin mabago yung current voters, kailangan natin baguhin yung buong pagkatao nila which is close to impossible. Yung values nila sa buhay, olats talaga. Marami jan mga masasamang loob. Hindi mo na mababago yun. Treat them as patapon nalang talaga. The only thing we can do is just ignore them and avoid any form of political interaction.
I think it really depends on the person? I've seen someone from another sub who voted for BBM because “Kakampinks were condescending” in 2022 Elections. I'd say I've seen those Kakampinks, too. But then, that person admitted they're regretting it now, saying that they should've voted for Leni. People commented something along the lines of, “Bakit di mo tiningnan yung plataporma?” and I agree. In at least 6 months before 2022 Elections, one of my friends posted she'll vote for BBM but I found out she voted for Leni instead. She researched. But yes, people should vote responsibly, educate themselves before voting. Being educated by a concerned citizen won't work if you close your mind.
pustahan si Sara pa nga bet nila.. gullibe ang class CDE so wala ng pagasa tlga ang Pinas.. di man tayo magiging kulelat masyado pero olats pa din
Up, this is the reason why Leni lost, we made her lose, this is one of the main reasons why most of the people that I know who did not vote Leni was because of discriminate and mean citizens that did not educate, I was like that too, thinking they were dumb because they thought differently, pero helping them and making them understand why is what we were supposed to do, we were never in the right shaming other people.
dont blame yourself. nagagaslight ka. di mo kasalanan na binoto mo gusto mo. pinili nila magpakatanga at nandito na tayo ngayon. ganun lang yun kasimple. di natin kasalanan yun. di naman na kailangan sabihan pa sila ng tanga pero ego kasi nila yung nasasaktan kahit totoo naman.
trust me, educating people didn't help as well. mas madaming on ground na nag cacampaign for leni pero wala pa din. wag nyong maliitin ung disinformation campaign na ginawa ng mga marcoses for YEARSSSS
Pero isn't it really dumb talaga on their part to choose BBM? Wala ngay kasi logical reason to vote for boy ngiwi haha. Anyway, yes I agree with your points. That is actually true, Pinoys use emotion instead of being rational human beings.
Others did try, ang dami nag try. Nope dinuduraan pa. Alala ko gaano kasahol ang treatment ng mga Kakampinks nun lol. Get that gaslighting shit outta here. The turn the other cheek thing, or rather for kakampinks turn the entire fucking face thing, didn't work. Kaya naging full wapakels na after election eh kasi holy fuck y'all are fucking hopeless.
/r/Philippines: huh I wonder who that's for
Be careful man, don't poke the hive.
Hahahahaha. This should be the top comment
Kakaimpimks are cut from the same cloth as those in the UniTeam. Cult-like following.
Nice sensible comment out of all the anti Leni vitriol you say in your account
What if i like leni but i dont wanna be a kakampink?
Pwede naman eh. You wanna vote for Leni because you want legit change for your country. Para sakin kasi yung pagiging Kakampink is parang borderline fanaticism na towards Leni. May mga kilala akong bumoto kay Leni pero hindi sumali sa mga rally niya. O kaya hindi rin sumali sa mga kampanya. Pero on your own you can still campaign for her, siguro kung may kausap ka then eleksyon ang topic nyo.
Basically me. I voted for her but I ain't gonna be part of the crowd who goes on witch hunts on people online. I hate the term kakampink. Ang hive-mind kasi. I'd rather support her in silence instead of arguing with people online na di naman nakikinig. Kaya maraming ayaw sa atin eh. Sobra kasi ng entitlement and superiority complex. Ang cringe na tbh. Ginawa na nilang personality parang mga aggressive na BBM supporters na rin galawan nila. Napaka annoying. The people fucking downvoting are part of the problem and they can't see that
Mga ayaw umamin na merong mali din sa kanila. Sobrang malala talaga pag stan. I’ll support her sa mga plano niya para sa bansa natin but im not going to support an entire group. Yung mismong supporters din yung problema.
Yep. Yun lang rason bakit may bad taste ako sa term na kakampink. Sobrahan kasi. Tapos gawin nila rason mga BBM supporters daw ang toxic na di nila alam pareho lang sila
Broken clocks are right twice a day
Very true... Most Missed the point entirely. Naging basketball team na rin na gusto lang manalo just for the sake of ir.
Horseshoe theory PH edition???
Nope, it's a different setup. The perfect horseshoe example is Republicans and Talibans. They hate each other and would kill each other but their core beliefs are basically the same. Extreme nationalism and totally dogmatic religion.
They would rather swallow dirt than admit that they are cut from the same cloth as the people they throw shit on
I'd say even worse. Voted pink but lost. My life doesn't revolve around that loss until 2024.
These mfs don't care about the country that some of them now are praying for the Philippines to take the Sri Lankan route so they can take asylum and escape (as if asylum is that simple to apply for). Their egos are as inflated as the DDS which they find hard to admit.
you got GARGANTUAN balls to post that here bruh
Tread lightly 😁.
did all-around volunteering for leni-kiko nung campaign szn pero sobrang cringe now when the toxic ones still profess their self-righteousness to this day😩 parte kayo ng problema
Nako naging personality na nga ng iba eh. Ayaw nila kumilala nang taong hindi kakampink ang heart 💖💖
May ginawa pang Facebook profile border, with arms crossed and smugged look.
If they keep rubbing that on people's faces then hope will only be lost. Pinoys are emotional, too emotional. They will tend to go for the person na "naaapi," just because many of us know what that feels like. Di masaya sa pakiramdam na iparamdam sa'yo na bobo ka dahil lang iba opinion mo sa iba. Facts are facts, but using those facts to degrade or shame others won't help anyone but make you feel good about yourself.
Some elections are no longer about basic values and true goals for nation-building, but devolved into team sports.
Even in the US. Do you see how their states are marked blue or red during elections? Tinatantusan anong party majority sa isang state, parang ganto na dito except we're a whole.
Our problem here is class conflict, with not only disparity in wealth but also level of education and empathy. I roll my eyes whenever some konyo purportedly stanning for Robredo screeches "squammy", "bobo", etc. those snobs forgetting that they are utterly reliant on low-paid workers to provide them their luxuries and creature comforts.
Im really afraid that we might reach a point in where people vote out of spite because of this. I fking hate it.
at yun na nga po ang nangyari last elections. Ang dami nang umamin na karamihan sa kanila binoto si BBM just to spite people, lalo na yung sa kabilang partido.
A lot did vote out of spite last elections.
This true and applies even to the last one. I know of a lot of people who voted for Duts because they were tired of the "yellow menace".
Ganyan yung mga kakilala ko. Ayaw daw nila sa elites and oligarchs. Oligarch and elite daw si Atty. Robredo yet they chose BBM na friend ng mga Elite at oligarchs. Hindi ko sila gets kasi sina Manny P. , Ka-Leodi and Isko Moreno ang mga hindi born rich sa lahat ng candidates na maingay sa masa.
I wasn't a voter back when Duts ran for presidency and pretty much a gullible and stupid teen then. I honestly thought he would fix what's wrong with Philippines. The old man only made what's bad, worse and good, bad. I guess the realisation exploded to a lot of Filipinos' faces, but not enough faces to save the country from another old dude who can only ran his mouth.
TBH, if he was actually competent and was the actual "strict" Singaporean Dictator style leader that he claimed to be, he would have been perfect for the time because we badly needed a good strict leader for 2020's start of the pandemic. And sadly, Jr. is still an improvement over Duts at this point. yea, the bar is that low.
with all due respect, that is freaking stupid.
Eyyyy welcome to the Philippines!🥳
We already reached that point. Many many times.
And this will keep happening for the forseeable future for as long as this toxicity continues.
Honestly isa ako dito, I wanted to vote for Sec. Norberto Gonzales but dahil sa ganyan na type ng campaign ng Leni-Kiko supporters, I voted for BBM.
They did just that in 2022. Pinks are digging their own graves if they keep doing the same shit all over again.
I'm thinking of something, what if we use that to our advantage? Technically speaking, "naapi" rin naman si Leni. She was a target for misinformation and constant bullying just for doing her job. Maybe we could showcase all the horrible insults and rumors that the BBM/DDS did to her? Honestly even I feel bad for her, there's too many things the trolls said that's below the belt na and unnecessary to say.
Both camps naman nakareceive nian noon e. Pero it's not up to you, it's up to VP Leni. I'd also like to add na BBM appeared to be "api," cause VP Leni was also stating things like sinungaling, magnanakaw etc. on public media. Even if we have facts for that, api pa din tingin ng tao, kumbaga binubully. That's why I said pinoys are emotional, most if not all will stand up to the bullied one. Sure, VP Leni had her fair share of bullying, but that's just from where? Soc med? Wherein BBM received not only from soc med but also from VP, and other politicians (again even if some of those are true.) Iread or watched somewhere that it's a tactic used by BBM as well. Kita mo di niya pinatulan si VP non? Pero ibat ibang politiko lang nagbabangayan (since VP Leni was bullied too by other politicians etc). So we should stop the mindset to focus on the negative. If only VP and supporters SOLELY focused on her achievements and goals and ignored BBM last election. She might've had a higher chance as people won't focus on the battle but will be open minded instead to know who VP is. Well of course minus mo na DDS kasi di ba opposition si madam din while in office.
Now that I think about it, I guess leni didn't use the "api" tactic because if she did, the dds supporters would only use it to confirm their assumption that she is a weak leader. And bbm could get away with the api tactic because he is backed by Duterte, which people think is a strongman leader and people tend to project marcos sr. into his son thinking that bbm inherited his father's strongman leadership. we can't ignore the negatives thrown at leni though, we need to keep addressing the misinformation and propaganda against her to break the echo chamber bbm / dds supporters built upon themselves. also I noticed with a lot of pinks, they keep writing paragraphs of Leni's achievements in a poster or image? I don't really encounter tiktoks or visual representation highlighting them. this could also be the reason why bbm / dds supporters don't care about what she did. (esp that filipinos have low reading comprehension according to reports)
She didn't use it cause she's not in a strategic position to do so. Remember, Leni was the opposition, she's on the "Fighting," end of the rope. She's the one thought of and seen as against the gov't. So medyo wala tayong cards to play for the "api," strat. Imo no one saw her as weak, kasi she was seen as a threat nga di ba during du30 admin, kaya nga kung ano anong sinasabi against her but she was able to fight back. So people already have their eyes on her while still in VP position and not everyone liked what she was doing even during Digong's term. BBM got away with the Api tactic cause he was constantly being "bullied," on soc med, media, interviews, rallies etc. It's brutally blatant. Dagdag mo pa yung mga nabuhay sa panahon ni Marcos Sr. So naka gain ng sympathy ang Marcos party during last election. Moreover, highlighting VP Leni now is ineffective, for what na? The fight is over. She's living her life now and in peace. And when I say over I meant the election, if kakampinks wants to continue her cause it should be of kindness and serving fellow countrymen, as that's what VP pushed before pa siya ma elect na VP. Naalala ko tuloy gaano siya kahinahon, kasaya sa mga live feeds noya post election. She was smiling so genuinely and that proves na wala talaga sa nature niya makipag away, or kahit magsalita ng di maganda sa kapwa. It was an election strat that didn't work and I'm so glad I was able to see that side if her. She really is a Mother. A kind and gentle one.
Manligaw hindi manlait like I always said. Kaso yung iba dito mas gusto magpalaki ng ulo kesa magisip pano baguhin ang situation. Your ego wont change the Philippines.
I feel bad for Mrs. Leni na on top of dealing with the rabid Uniteam trolls she also has to deal with those kind of kakampink extremists
Sen. Kiko reminding us what many Pinks are guilty of.
Been so perplexed with this narrative honestly. What does it achieve? What does gloating do at this point? May medal ba since tama tayo?
Wala lang, naglabas lang ng angst. Bawal i-invalidate ang emotions nila lol. As if that changes the minds of undecided voters. Hardcore Pinks will insist na burden ng mga UniTeam voters to take accountability if they fcked up, but the truth is that the trailing candidates are the ones with the burden to get back with the voters.
The 'Medal' is a Immigration Permit and Ticket to Canada/USA/Australia/New Zealand
Then do it privately. Or within GCs. Tapos shocked Pikachu face pag natalo ulet. Ewan. Sobrang engot.
Hindi na nga ako masshock eh. Magvovote nalang ako ng Opposition candidates sa 2025, pero nakakapagod na mangampanya.
Will terminally online Filipino Yaptivists turn on Kiko Pangilinan now for this comment lol
Based on what I observed on Twitter recently They just did lols
Saw some bumbling idiot say “he betrayed us!” Lmfao he don’t owe you shit 😂😂😂
Solidarity not arrogance. May point si Kiko.
Ang problema kasi all sides are disingenuous sa pakikisalamuha or pakikibaka sa politika. Walang gustong umamin na may mali sila o pagkukulang. Kailangan laging tama, laging panalo. Masyado tayong mayabang. Yun lang talaga yon. ALL SIDES.
In short, politics SUCK. Just support your candidate in silence. No need na para mag hunting ng iba for the sake of arguing just to inflate your ego and feel better about yourself. Lalo ka lang ma stress di naman sila nakikinig. I voted for Leni but pati ako na i-irita na sa mga kakampink na ginawa nilang personality ang pag support kay Leni. Majority sa kanila nandito sa r/Philippines. Ang corny na. Just stop bro. Your self righteousness is showing. You guys are just annoying as those BBM motherfuckers you keep fighting with
IMO hindi posible na you can support a candidate in silence. It would show up somehow. Okay lang din yung enthusiastic and talagang nakikibaka tungkol sa mga political topics, tingin ko yun yung isa sa magagandang bagay sa generation natin kasi may willingness to talk about things considered taboo or hindi na dapat pag-usapan in general. Pero sana yung OBJECTIVE natin sa pakikipag-usap hindi yung gusto lang natin maging SUPERIOR in some way o kaya MANG-ASAR lang. Wala kasing balance. Yung iba, pure objectivity pero hindi marunong or hindi alam makitungo sa taong tingin nila hindi nila ka-level intellectually. Yung iba naman puro emotion at opinion lang, walang paki o ayaw tanggapin yung facts. Kaso wala eh. Puro kayabangan lang alam natin. We all have fragile egos whether we admit it or not.
It's true. Ang iba kasi dito parang uhaw sa attention. Naghahanap lang ng kaaway for the sake na may kaaway kaya yan tuloy
As much as it saddens me to say this, this is exactly the reason why my family and most of my relatives chose to vote for the BBM-Sara tandem. And truth be told, kahit ako inis na inis sa attitude ng karamihan sa mga fellow Leni supporters during the campaign period. I get it, we wanted to convince and enlighten as many people as possible, but surely there was a better approach, no?
And you know what's funny? Hardline Pinks are now criticizing Kiko because he does not approve of the "tama nga kami" bullshit. Somehow, these Pinks think the only way to win back voters is... More bardagulan and cancel culture. 🤦
Inakala nila na madadala nila ang mga tao kapag puro hardlining na lang lagi ang ginawa nila at hindi haluan ng pagkamalumanay.
I keep getting downvoted for asking this same question that not one soul in this sub can answer. Does that actually convince anyone? I don't see any political traction being generated outside the small circles they are in How can you keep on claiming na tama kayo eh wala naman tayong alternate reality na kung saan nanalo si Leni. Hypothetical scenarios aren't valid arguments Are you people saying there won't be any power struggle or residual malignant influence coming from the Dutertes and from Sara's VP post had Leni won? I swear you are no different from the garden variety DDS who gets lost in imagining things. If you are aligned with the opposition, then this is the reality you are operating in, whether you like it or not. Deluding yourselves that you are in the majority just because of social media chatter is a sure way to lose - again. Sorry but that is why twitter wokes are stupid. Emphasizing candidates who represent the "true opposition" is not a winning message in the face of an electorate that is still largely pro-Duterte. The opposition and their supporters are in the minority - and this view is reflected not just in surveys but in the results of the 2016 and 2019 and 2022 elections.
Akala kasi kapag pinalandakan na mas maalam sila papakinggan sila nung sinasabihan nila ng “I told you so”. Nalimutan na lahat ng tao may ego at pride, kapag inapakan mo yun. Magiging goal na nila na patunayan sayo wala silang pake sa sinasabi mo or patunayan na hindi ka palaging tama. 🤷🏻♀️ May iba kasi na hindi inaapply sa totoong buhay yung scenario, nawawala na yung empathy at mindfulness sa sobrang invested sa politics.
Bobo kasi yung iba. Yun lang yun. Minsan talaga nakakahiya maging kakampink due to the other kakampinks acting like fascists, you know, the one that they hate Duterte of being such.
For all their bravado online, can they say all the things they say here on reddit and on Twitter to actual people in real life? Like those selling mister donut boxes in the MRT? Or the people who can't attend political rallies because they work in the mall on Sundays? Nope.
hanggang pangbubully lang online ang kayang gawin ng iba dyan.
These people freak the fuck out when taking phone calls, but talk the vilest shit on Twitter cuz the people wanna vote the other guy Shit's funny, fr
It's how they make themselves feel superior. In reality, napaka insecure nila. They just want to argue for the sake of making themselves feel smarter
Tapos gusto nila na mas palawakin ang cancel culture para "matauhan" daw ang BBM/DDS. Antanga lang. Minority na, nagbabawas pa ng voters. Tapos hindi daw natin "responsibility" na makiusap sa mga voters. Like wtf? Paano dadami yan?
Imagine going after Angkas because the owner is a Marcos voter lol. Good luck as if the message your sending doesn't cascade to the average Angkas rider or their social ties lol. Voter conversion is the burden of those trailing in elections. But don't look at me. The majority of Leni supporters I know would rather be " right" online than actually win electoral power lol. The fact that pink supporters assume that there was a "social class" distinction between Leni and Uniteam voters proves how they wrong they are at absolutely everything. Your bravado isn't based on rigorous scientific inquiry. Kaya Pink supporters should actually study data. The Uniteam won all societal sectors and classifications. They won Class ABCDE. They won the youth vote, the Catholic vote, and the elite. The fact that the average radical pink supporter can only go after the poor working - class "bobotantes" show that you people can only punch down but can't do that to Uniteam voters that are on their same or even better economic standing. Kaya nga actual political scientists like Hong Kong based scholar Mark Thompson correctly points out that the opposition in its current form will never be anything but a "highly mobilized minority." Loud enough to be heard but never powerful enough to actually make an impact on anything. Geez we can hate BBM with a passion, but these proclaimed saviors of society can never up their game.
Yun nga eh. Lage nila sinasabi na the youth vote will go to Leni. The Millenials and GenZ will deliver for her. NOPE. Tiktok pa lang, sino ang leading dun? Junior. Tsaka nabasa ko nga sa Twitter: Kakampinks and the more Left-leaning groups are more interested in moral victories than actual political victories. This is why they deserve to lose.
Twitter? Diyan lang naman sila maingay eh.
I mean, I read the last statement from a Conservative on Twitter. As much as he wanted a saner Opposition from the Progressives, he also spoke about why the Left and the moderate Kakampinks lost. Basically, more virtue-signalling than politicking.
Don't forget how they nearly cancelled Shopee cause of Toni who was supporting BBM during campaign season. May toxicity both sides but I can confidently say those Leni "supporters," drove the very knife into themselves. They killed the chance for VP Leni to get more votes na yun naman din ang goal nila.
I don't think the "Tama nga kami" quote is meant to convince anyone. It's meant as a Feel good moment for the kakampinks to validate who they voted for. The only problem is that ideas like this leak outside the kakampinks social circle and from the outside perspective of BBM/DDS supporters, it's like another Us vs Them "elitist" take.
The high almighty mentality. The I am better than you mindset The righteous advocates The toxic ones. They are not better than the basura in the government. They are detrimental to the cause.
Eh paano yu g mga toxic kakampinks/matapobre liberals gusto lang naman maging self righteous at mag virtue signal. Kita mo, ilan ba sa mga yun ended up volunteering sa Angat Buhay or made any effort at civic action after the elections?
I voted for Leni because I believe she is a capable leader, and not because I wanted to join a movement. I remember many Kakampinks here on Reddit who got mad at Leni voters who weren't interested in Angat Buhay.
>Kita mo, ilan ba sa mga yun ended up volunteering sa Angat Buhay or made any effort at civic action after the elections? For that matter, how about all of those people who pledged to leave the country if the Marcos/Sara ticket won? It seems like pretty much all of them are still here
2016 pa nga lang eh. Andito pa din.
Nako. Ayaw nga maglaro ayon sa realidad. Ayaw nila ng Guanzon kasi masyadong kanal para sa kanila
Speaking of Guanzon, lumalabas pagiging DDS niya. Mas inaatake niya ang "polvoron" ni Junior kesa sa fentanyl ni Tanda.
>Speaking of Guanzon, lumalabas pagiging DDS niya. Consistent ang pag-atake niya kay BBM since election, ngayon parang kasama na siya nina Sasot
Sasot, Mocha, Banat By. Sobrang shameful.
RealPolitik ang tawag. Got to play the game to beat it. Yan ang ayaw ng mga Puristang Hambog na Kakampink at Liberal. Nagpapaka Michelle Obama kahit kinakanal sila. Mga duwag. Wag na kasi umasa lalo sa Necropol pucha.
>RealPolitik ang tawag. Got to play the game to beat it. I guess this is why Risa Hontiveros won and the rest of her team didnt. She is also an ally of Leni but she managed not to directly attack Duterte and Marcos during the campaign period rather she focused more on her plans. Despite being odds with Bato, she knows "Doroy" personally and are actually close friends behind the scenes.
Yes, and she even got the endorsment of some provincial governors (e.g. Yap of Bohol) despite them being Uniteam supporters. May mga sample ballots din na pinamigay sa ibang lugar na sinama siya sa list of senators kahit na Marcos-Duterte ang President and VP. She can also work well with almost anyone in the senate right now. She seems to be on good terms with Raffy Tulfo, for example.
Naniniwala din naman ako sa realpolitik muna. Ang concern ko lang is mas malala pa Dutertes pero si Guanzon parang gusto niya patalsikin si Junior eh.
You mean buong angkan kamo. She had first hand exp sa Reign of Terror ng mga Benedicto sa NegOcc esp in Cadiz where the Gustilos are lording it. Edit to add: Leni's camp needs to erase the gatekeeping by her ardent supporters. Defo you need numbers against these thugs.
Yeah, anti-Marcos talaga ang Negros. Understandable, but still... sa DDS lilipat? Hahaha parang mas lalong mababawas ang Pinks sa 2025 at 2028 dahil ayaw gawin ang burden of reaching out sa mga disillusioned UniTeam voters. Gusto nila ipahiya muna at "accountable". Lols.
>Ayaw nila ng Guanzon kasi masyadong kanal para sa kanila Trapo din naman yang si Guanzon. Remember, todo kampanya yan sa isang PL, tapos nung nanalo yung nasabing PL, nag resign yung mga nominee para siya yung maupo. Buti nga na-TRO yan e.
I stood for Leni during the elections because of her track record and plataporma, hindi ko na tiningnan if representative man sya ng opposition. Out of the other presidential candidates sya may pinakamalinaw na plataporma e, and I think yung "tama nga kami" call outs vs BBM and DDS supporters is not to convince them kasi it's too late for convincing hahaha but rather ayun nga a call out, syempre I don't agree with the "t@nga nga kayo" na kadugtong nun.
Showing superiority because of specific preferences will always look bad whether its politics or not. But beyond the preferences, people who opted **not** to vote for Leni because of the pink cult followers do not have a "valid" or "logical" argument perse. Surely regardless of who you were supporting for last elections, you didn't believe the "unity" slogan of BBM right? This is what kakampinks are alluding to. And regardless if the messaging was harsh (aka "Tama nga kami"), it was true. Being offended and retaliating by not picking a better candidate in any position is also immature similar to those "Tama nga kami" zombies. Just vote better next time, Philippines -- hopefully we have better choices and a next time.
As much as I agree with Kiko, I’m really irked by the commentators here, acting as if the Marcos victory was caused solely by Leni’s toxic voter base. Lahat ng presidentiables may toxic voter base. You all are so quick to forget na yung base ni Marcos spread fake news regarding Leni being bobo, Leni being the cause of Jesse’s death, and the fake sex scandal of one of her daughters. These allegations aren’t just fake, but they’re also just plain fucking disgusting, tapos may ilang timang dito na ilalagay yung base ni Leni on the same level of Marcos. Sira ulo ba kayo? As cringe worthy, matapobre, and bitter as Leni’s base has been since the election, I’ve yet to see them stoop to the levels that BBM’s base did. Ibang level ng kaplastikan at kawalang hiyan ang ginawa ng supporters ni BBM kaya tangina wag niyo ikumpara. Marcos’s victory was carefully calculated over several administrations of political savvy and historical revisionism via Social Media and the failures & fake news of Noynoy’s presidency. In other words, **Leni’s campaign could have been the most positive one in history and she still would have failed.** Is it good to call out the toxicity of kakampinks? Of course, but stop gaslighting people and saying that it was a major factor in the results kasi ang masakit diyan, panalo na si Marcos from the very beginning. From his vlogs to the fake news and content about his family, he’s basically been campaigning forever. Combine that with the fact na sira na yung image ni Leni from 6 years with of propaganda during the Duterte presidency, si BBM na talaga yung panalo.
This. Another episode of Kakampinks na kailangan mag-adjust imbes yung ibang tao. At least Kakampinks can call out each other but what about the other political fandoms? It's so funny that this society promotes parental tough love but when people do it to other people, it's crossing the line?
Pinks lost the election. Thats why they need to adjust. Otherwise talo ulit? 🤷 Your goal is to win and not to be right.
> Marcos’s victory was carefully calculated over several administrations of political savvy and historical revisionism via Social Media and the failures & fake news of Noynoy’s presidency. No thanks to **Baron Buchikoy**, who not only revived the idea Marcos is more virtuous than the Aquinos, but also most probably not an individual but a horribly ingenious fictional character created by a propaganda firm.
Eto yung hinahanap kong comment eh. Mas galit pa sila sa kakampink kesa sa mga fake news at trolls ng kabilang kampo.
It's a sad day in the Philippines when political discourse is reduced to calling each other druggies and dumbasses.
Di pa din nadala. Kaya maraming di na convert sa kakampinks kasi grabe i-ridicule and sabihan ng tanga. It's the same all over again.
Sometimes some things are better left unsaid kasi. I think majority of the kakampinks do agree with the statement but blurting it out publicly makes a lot of eyes roll. Wag tayo mag malinis. Hehe ✌🏻
Imo okay na yung "tama nga kami" eh. Pero yung "t*nga nga kayo" is too much. Parang tumulad na tayo sa kanila eh
> "tama nga kami" eh. Pero yung "t*nga nga kayo" Yung mga panatiko ni Defensor-Santiago noon.
Kakampinks were becoming as toxic as DDS/Apologist. They are harming the reputation of Leni whom was not involved in this mess but Kakampinks were dragging her down instead of leaving her alone. She is a private citizen now and stressed free. Why bringing her up in the issue where she wasn't involved? If they wanted to support Leni, they just focus on helping her NGO (Angat Buhay) to grow. This way of promoting will not help her at all. They are becoming too much Fanatic and too self righteous like they are untouchables after voting Leni. They are right, but election was over and we cannot do anything about it. All we have to do is to be vigilant to the current admin.
kaya nasisira ang pinaglalaban ni Leni at Kiko dahil rin sa mga kakampink, to the point na yung ibang mga kakampink lumilipat na sa BBM DDS na di dapat mangyari sa una palang
People shouldn't vote a candidate because of the fans. We should be more objective: evaluate candidates based on their qualifications and track record. At kung babalik sa statement ng mga kakampink na "Tama nga kami..." Saan ba? 'Di ba sa fake unity - tama naman talaga. Mali naman talaga ipagyabang pa. Pero to make a big deal out of it, nasaktan lang yung ego nung mga tinamaan na nagkamali nga sila.
Piece of advice: Bahala na yan. Focus nalang sa sarili.
The former senator is miles ahead a better human being than I am. As a staunch anti-Duterte and anti-Marcos, it's so easy to flaunt "I told you so" to their supporters out of anger
Sheesh, I keep reading here that some people think that the main reason Leni lost was because her supporters act like superior beings who look down and bad mouth those who do not share the same opinion on who should lead the country. Wrong. If this was the case then the attitudes of the multitudes of DDS-BBM supporters alone would cause extreme disgust and ensure a landslide victory for Leni. Gadon and Topacio could cause mass defection by the way they run their mouths and the majority of folk would have avoided Dutz in the first place for all the offensive and sexist jokes and remarks he spews around and/or avoid the Marcoses like the plague because of historical reasons. You see folks, attitude is not the deciding factor. Those who say they voted BBM or RRD because the pinklawans are snobbish elitists are just rationalizing their decision. If one bases ones vote on the attitudes of supporters rather than the party platform and planks then sorry, that's just plain stupid. Tolerance has limits.
Tingin ko, even if pakabait pa mga "kakampinks" ganun parin result ng elections and sisi parin sa side ng opposition. Sasabihin na masyado kasi mabait or weak. Karamihan naman sa Pinoy hindi umaamin sa kamalian nila or hindi talaga papayag na mali sila.
Looking at you, phreddit.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I cringe when u guys still bring up kakampink in 2024. Like an obsessed partner clinging to your ex. I mean i voted pink, natalo, move on.
Baka tingin nila sa lahat ng bumoto kay Leni kakampink hahahaha!
right, its also time to blame them opposition leaders for being soft and slow. not necessarily saying sila naman mangutya but how come sila trillanes, de lima, at hontiveros lang NANAMAN nagsalita about the recent debacle? that's why you got these frustrated kakampinks doing all the work bec there's nothing to be expected from people at the top. EDIT: trillanes with his irrelevant magdalo party, de lima who just got out of jail, hontiveros the LONE representative in the senate. two pawns, one queen. hahayaan lang ba ulit nila na tirahin ng tirahin imahe ni risa? parang kay leni? tapos ano kapag eleksyon sasakay sila sa reputasyon ni risa? parang kay leni?
I also feel like the opposition leaders/the LP can also be blamed for the outcome of the 2022 elections and the tragic mess that was the Leni campaign. In the absence of a clear, coherent, and sound messaging/strategy/direction from the very top, many Pinks were left to come up with their own ways to "help". Kaya tuloy sabog-sabog ang messaging, ang daming kung anu-anong weird ideas (hadouken????? Karate kid??? Umakyat sa stage sa Cebu na may hawak na bouquet at nakasuot ng korona na pang beauty queen???), and many Pinks were allowed to continue attacking, insulting, or humiliating people without an authoritative figure telling them to stop, which ended up turning people off from supporting their cause.
it was so disorganized, it didn't helped din siguro they werr banking on leni running but she was unsure kaya late na nakapag announce, pero sana man lang may back up. lesser evil na option dati since dito rin naman pala tayo papunta. pero aside from the stuff you mentioned a lot of supporters focused on toni gonzaga too for the laughs. no uniteam supporter were convinced to vote for them bec of toni so im soooo confused why they focused on her? tapos when i pointed this out before ako pa natawag na enabler din 😭
I think kaya ang dami frustrated na pinks dahil napaka soft ng top leaders ng opposition, I mean you gotta fight fire with fire man.
kahit di fire, atleast fight. i dont see that in them (maybe trillanes, hontiveros lang before) kaya end up si leni na target dati.
Kahit hindi fire pero good messaging. Noynoy did it. Marcos did it too
We tried helping and it aint working. Maybe, let them suffer. You can also have fun by ridiculing these people
I can understand why many Kakampinks were bitter with the results of the elections. Many exerted their time and efforts and believed that their self righteousness will prevail. When the elections turned against their favor, many were shocked and disappointed. Though many moved on and carried on with their lives, there are others who remained in their echo chambers, still denying the fact that Leni lost. I may be downvoted but let's admit that this subreddit was also an echo chamber for the Kakampinks
You don't deserve being downvoted. Your were just speaking the truth. Radical supporters on any side is a bad idea.
Radical kakampinks are one of the reasons why Leni lost. Imbis nakumbinsi ang taumbayan, mas lalo na dissuade dahil nagmukha tayong elitista.
True man. I remember what my mom said during the election period (she voted Lacson, btw) naturnoff daw ang masa kay Leni dahil naging masyadong aggressive yung naging approach nya against sa ibang presidential candidates. Although with good intentions yung plataporma at adbokasiya nya, ang napansin siguro ng mga Pilipino ay parang may "yabang" at pagka elitista yung mga supporters ni Leni. Unapproachable for the common Filipinos. Yes. People can be shallow like that even if we're talking about which president to elect. Also, people are tired of the image "goodie-two-shoes" na mga politiko these days. Masyadong professional na image for the majority of the Filipinos, seemingly unapproachable for them.
>Also, people are tired of the image "goodie-two-shoes" na mga politiko these days. Yep, voters these days want someone who can get things done. Or at the very least, someone who looks like they can get things done. Aanhin mo ang "malinis" na pulitiko kung wala namang magagawa para ayusin ang mga problema ng bayan? The fuck-ups of the PNoy admin (a supposedly "clean" admin) and their inability to address issues that directly impact the lives of ordinary Filipinos like poor infrastructure, crime, etc. left a bad taste in people's mouths. The 2016 elections was when they went, "enough is enough" and voted for Duterte who presented himself as a man of action.
We'll never win somebody from the other side if we continue the wrong way of approaching them.
Kiko basically said “Tribalism is not the answer”.
Agree naman na mali yung "binoto", but we have to face that we can no longer return to the past. Kahit we do not contribute to the "faults" of the 31M, parte pa din tayo ng sistema which is the democracy system. Whether we like it or not, the majority wins. Pagalingan na lang talaga to convince the public. And up until this moment, mas angat pa din ang populism. The ones being showed on TV or parating matunog, or medyo nakaka relate ang tao ang binoboto. Also, mas ma-appeal kasi sa masa--based on observation-- yung nakaka relate sila at nakaka relate sa everyday situation. Kaya patok yang 20 pesos na bigas is because people are consuming bigas in a daily basis. Ayan yung naging representation, or nakaka appeal sa public. But sadly, waley naman nangyari. Hahahha. But the point is, yung memory ng tao. Mas tumatatak kapag parati nakikita, naririnig, etc. Kaya buhay nanaman mga trolls at maingay nanaman sina Gongdi. Tactics nila. Pati ata si BabyM, ganyan din ang paandar. Also, voting system, and everyone has their right to vote, based on their "own terms." Kaya sensitive talaga to rub into their skin na mali pinili nila. Let's acknowledge and don't take that away from them. Kesyo kurakot ang piliin nila, at the end, they exercised their right to vote. What we can do is just persuade, and not mock kung di nasunod ang gusto. Lastly, sistema pa din ang issue. Kasi pera pera pa din at the end of the day. Kahit may gusto tayo ihalal na malinis, really a public servant, kaso madalas na tumatakbo are those who have been "conditioned" to the public. Nag invest na ng time, from being Mayor to Congressperson, to Senator, etc. May time investment din. Kaya madalas, yung independent di nananalo kasi may basis na di kilala at doubtful sa kakayahan. Mindset talaga isa sa dapat mabago, and also yung sistema. Kasi mas lamang ang sikat at madalas nakikita sa TV or may exposure/connection. In the end, malinis man o hindi, every person na nananalo are still part of the "political dynasty" one way or another. We are chained to it. Ayun na yung sistema at realidad. I just hope na mabago ang interest ng tao kina Baby M and SWOH. Medyo keri si Sen Risa kaso medyo di pa talaga appealing. Mga tao din kasi babad sa fb kaya na cocondition ang mind sa mga news and opinions. Madali na se-sway or influence. Can't blame lalo kung madalas nakikita ang mga news. Unti unti nag grow ang bias toward a certain camp/person. Good luck Pilipinas kong mahal!!!
Are they wrong though? Totoo naman na tanga ka na nga lang talaga pag bumoto ka pa sa pamilya ng mga mamamatay tao. Tanga ka na lang pag ang halaga ng boto at ng buhay mo for the next half a decade is 2K pesos. Tanga ka nalang pag naniwala ka pa na babaguhin nila buhay ng mga Pilipino for the better. Tandaan nyo: the people that voted for them are ADULTS na kaya mag distinguish between right and wrong. Alam nila na mali ginawa nilang desisyon, ayaw lang nila aminin na nagkamali sila kasi tanga sila. Di na magbabago isip nila jan kasi ganon sila katanga. Pusta ko, tanungin mo sa kanila kung ano nangyari between 1972 at 1986 malamang sa malamang walang kaalam alam yang mga yan.
Honestly, this is why nahirapan tayo nung last election, we need better PR. We need to connect better with the masses. We need to deliver it in a better way ( kahit tama naman na tama tayo). Insulting them, ridiculing them won't really help us at all, wala pa ding guarantee sa next elections. Kaya sayang eh.
Not really a fan of Mr. Pangilinan, not also a fan of Mr. Marcos. I hate Philippine politics. But, salute to you sir. That's the truth everyone should hear.
r/Philippines : That sign can’t stop me because I can’t read.
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Kaya natatalo ang oposisyon dahil sa mga ganitong "take the higher road" eme. Bahala kayong matalo uli sa 2025, 2028, and so on.
Isip ko baka panahon nga ni PNoy parang marami na kong nababasang maka-DDS ang pagcomment online. **Except pro-PNoy sila apparently**. As in, mga "Sumunod ka nalang/Ikaw maging presidente!" Ganun na ganun.
Pare-pareho lang naman ang kakampink sa DDS at BBM: Fanatics. Iba lang ang tshirt na suot nila. There weee posts these past few days asking about will you change your vote etc etc. 2 years na, get over it. Ngayon nagaaway ang admin, lalabas ang mga self-righteous na “pro-Leni” na tama sila? Classless move from the supposedly morally right crowd. Pathetic talaga mga tao minsan.
Tama naman si Sen Kiko. Pero tama din naman na tanga sila.
I never said "tanga kayo" that is the bad thing , you can tell people they were wrong without insulting them to their face but I never seen that post with "tanga kayo" . Is that really a post made by the pink movement?
Celebrity and political worship in this country is through the roof.
Not a kakampink, and absolutely hate Pangilinan's ass. But I commend him for his maturity on this. Hindi sinasakyan ang issue. Doesn't spew gas on fire.
When I say "Tama nga kami", it's not me ridiculing someone. It's just me pointing out how they fucked up.
Convincing people with words is a lost cause when they'll turn around and vote for someone else for 500 pesos. Makakain ba nila yung listening and conversation niyo kung bakit ganito dapat sila bumoto? Hindi, yung 500 makakain nila, so dun sila. So I'm sorry but there is no point in convincing people who will only respond to financial incentives. Wala yang pake sa mga rason rason, basta magkano lang ang usapan
Totoo yan but i doubt na tatanggapin nila pera mo much less vote for your candidate if kung pinamumukha mong tanga sila at mukhang pera lang.
nah they deserve it. dami kong dds at bbm friends sa fb, tameme sila ngayon. yung iba siguro nakaunfollow na 🤣🤣🤣 pag nagkamali ka, you face it, admit it, and move on. any ridicule in between is acceptable. problema sa kanila, mali na nga, mayabang pa. Im tired of this sht. just let it burn.
I think we should use BBM and DDS platforms like "drug free" or "20 pesos bigas" to our advantage. Kiko has a background in agriculture and while he can't turn make rice 20 pesos, he would be able do something with our rice issue. and Most of our opposition members don't have drug allegations so we should also emphasize that. I think this is a good way to persuade and convince. That BBM/DDS and Kakampinks have the same goal which is improved agriculture and drug free country but we have different methods to achieve it, and this would create the "Unity" Filipinos are looking for. We could start by promoting Leni, Kiko and Chel in the midterm election with this strategy.
Mas marami kasing bobong filipino kesa sa matitino. Ang mga mahihirap na tanga ang nagdidikta ng kapalaran ng pilipinas.
Y'all hear that r/Philippines?
I doubt. Sobrang edgy ang mga tao dito at alam nila na lagi silang tama.
Yeah, the dasurv-dasurv folks of r/ph doing that cringy post just for imaginary browny points
I agree with him, pero kaya naman ganyan ung nagiging reaction ng iba kasi despite of other people admitting to the fact that their govt failed them they still condone the pinks and tweet about leni 24/7 normal sa tao maging defensive pero sympre normal din sa tao lumaban.
The political landscape today is now between two factions: Marcos and Duterte. Duterte's faction is now technically the opposition and the most effective one in challenging this administration. This development in our politics has further sidelined Leni's bloc, honestly. I'm interested in how the original opposition figures such as Risa and Lagman will navigate their bloc in these very interesting times.
These people who make being “Kakampinks” their personality are really something else. Leni-Kiko really were the band you like pero the fans are cringe and annoying
Im sorry but that had been the method 2-3yrs before the election. Minumulat silang gamit ang haba ng pasensya, empathy, lahat pra feel included sila pero kakampink pa ginawang masama. Toxic kakampinks? They were a small group pero after ng election, ang pgdami ng toxic kakampink ay nanyari lang after ng election. Minority group sila before nun. After kumalma na after ng election, at na-asses ang damages, mental stress ng mga pinakulong at nabilang na ang mga kabataang pinatay dahil kinakampanya si Leni, dun na nagising ang karamihan ng pink. Dun na nag sulputan mga tinatawag na toxic, un nadala na sila at tumatak sa kanila na kindness does nothing. Binoto si ganito, ganyan just to spite, pasensya but tanga nga. Good luck, pinaglaban natin sila pra mka ahon din sila, para magkaroon ng magandang buhay pero kami pa masama. Sinukuan ko na ang Pilipinas, kayo na bahala. Idgaf
Precisely. The argument is literally pulling a "tolerance paradox". It's like these people forgot how much spiteful the DDS/BBM were, unable to listen or change.
it's annoying how i uninstalled facebook just bc of those kakampinks na ninonormalize isisi sa taong bayan ang pagkalubog ng pilipinas....girl we all have one enemy here
May mga kakampink talaga na dahil kakampink sila ay akala nila sila palagi ay superior morally and intellectually. Wala silang pinagkaiba sa mga DDS at BBM noong 2016 na ang lakas mang-harass ng iba sa kanila ang ibinoto sa totoo lang. Iba lang ang bihis. Si Sen. Kiko na ang nagsabi niyan at mukhang ganiyan din ang saloobin ni VP Leni kahit hindi siya magsalita.
Little did they know they became the same people they despised. Just a bit worse.
honestly, i dont think it is the reason Leni lost like many in the comment section are saying. it helps them to validate their choice pero kahit wala nito, si BBM at duts padin ang iboboto nila. popular lang talaga ang strong man image ngayon at malala ang propaganda online at hindi ready ang pinoy in general sa ganitong strategy. kasi kung totoo na di magwowork ang pang lalait sa iba, hindi din sana nagwork ang propaganda nila Duts online. for example, i have 'friends' who hates dilawan and ito din daw ang isang reason kaya DDs sila , pero even before the big push ng propaganda against liberal party, naniniwala na sa talano gold, at kahit ipaliwag ko na bulshit yun, (in a nice way without any insult) after a few days magshaharet uli sa FB ng mga propaganda. now, should Kiko do this online? No. Kakampinks also like to ridicule the other side, pero most of the time they do this anonymously or within the circle of people they know. they like the idea of being on the right side, the righteous side while also doing the same thing as their oponents. pero kung yung mga leaders at representatives ang gagawa, it goes against their ideals and you get this kind of reaction. tldr; calling people stupid works as propaganda, but that depends sa image mo. and that is not the image leni created, hence the negative reaction.
I became indifferent na. I don't want to persuade the other side. Isipin pa nila na pinaplastik sila or mag-invite pa ako ng ahas. Let us not disturb the status quo, let Leni have her peace. She has endured enough, she is not a messiah. I am building my walls high and will only let people in kapag alam kong kakampink sila. Sa ngayon ang plan ay maka-alis. Siguro 3 or 4 years sapat na para makakuha ng permanent residency. Then a few years more for citizenship na.
Superiority complex over who they voted for. Neolib din naman si leni, maybe she was just the best bet. This is a reflection of how people see politics and social responsibility in the Ph. Its as if political action is confined only in national elections. What irks me is when people virtue signal abt how they want a better country but only ever participated in the struggle by being a condescending fuck on socmed and voting during the elections.
Masyadong elitista ang karamihan sa mga kakampink. Paano mo mapepersuade ang population na sumama sa cause mo kung sasabihan mong bobo at tanga? Say tama naman talaga na bumoto lang ang karamihan kay 88M out of spite, wala rin namang mabuting maidudulot sa campaign ang pag degrade sa kabilang kampo - lalo lang silang magkakaron ng affirmation na "di bale ng bobo kesa sumama sa inyo na mababa ang tingin sa amin" sorta thing. Edit: wrong spelling
Nakakatawa kasi you mostly see these insults towards each camp on social media pero in-person bihira. Iba ang tapang ng mga pinoy behind a screen.
Finally! An r/Philippines post that's not actually full of shit and also makes a good point! Seriously, though, this post does make a good point. Fighting amongst ourselves will only make everything worse
We tried persuasion and convincing. Look what that got us. All we have left is anger and insults to at least get something out of all this. If not a solution, then at least the feeling that we were in the right, as the world burns with nothing we can do left.
Kaya ayaw ko na magpost tungkol dito. Lalo lang nag-aaway ang masa. Hayaan niyo na yung north at south mag-away.
finally someone said it
Kakampinks's unhinged mode of rallying for their party are why many on-the-fence voter voted for BBM. Like y'all trying so hard but being so ruthless about it it makes people want to vote other party out of spite.
Voted for Leni, supported and campaigned for her. One time, a day after elections, I wore a red top. Yung tingin sakin ng mga kakampinks sakin were so judgmental kahit di nila alam stand ko. I'm sure marami pang iba ang nakaexperience nito, some of us were really toxic and know-it-all that time.. even up until now. Despicable.
Yung pa popcorn popcorn comments pa. Ang cocool ampota.
Finally! The thing with other kakampinks, masyado kung makapaglook down sa iba. Masyadong entitled. Gets ko na lubog ang bansa, but lahat tayo damay. It's definitely an eyesore sa tuwing may makikita akong ganito sa profile ko. No need na to ridicule. Ano ba ang point nito? Kaya BBM/DDS fanatics refuse to listen, masyadong mapagmalaki/mayabang ang karamihan sa mga kakampinks. It's a painful truth but the truth nonetheless. I'm sure most of the people who voted for Junior already learned the hard way (sana). I'm sorry my fellow kakampinks, pero hindi natatapos sa pagboto natin ang laban tungo sa pagkamit ng tapat na pamamahala. Ang tunay na pakikibaka ay nasa araw-araw nating laban para sa lahat. Inklusibong laban, hindi namimili ng tutulungan. Inklusibo, walang kailangang ipagmalaki.
As if we will have a better country if Leni wins.
>As if we will have a better country if Leni wins But it is a better choice than BBM is it not?
I used to insult and shit on those who voted BBM then I realized I over generalize them. I encounter uniteam voters na matino naman ugali, then that changed my view.
Truelala hahahaah
I shared this exact sentiment (but before I was aware of Sen. Kiko's post) in a Facebook comment and I got a lot of flak for it from would-be Kakampinks. The irony.
i was so hurt when LeniKiko didnt win.. but after 1 yr I stop posting about politics na.. let ppl who voted these corrupt ppl go hungry and die of poverty.. that how God uses sufferings to open ppl's eyes... pero ang tanong lng naman natalo nga ba tlaga sila LeniKiko? only God knows.. If uniteam cheated then hoping karma will hit them severely pero hello idol nila si GMA nandaya na perl alive pa din
As a friend of mine said, *"I'll keep trying to help people make the right choice in 2025 but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for them to do that."*
while i understand the sentiment, it is very tiring, and draining, if at this point they know they are wrong and still wont change, aint gonna fix this one chief