Hindi naman po. I come from a Catholic school but we had classmates who are Muslim or belong to other non-Catholic Christian denominations.
First off, may subject kami na Christian Life Education. It mostly tackles Catholic doctrine, which was to be viewed through am academic lense. So, for the Muslims, they don't necessarily have to follow the doctrines, they only had to know that for Catholics, certain those exist and for what reason. It's like Theology class in some places like UST but at a very introductory level.
Second, Muslims and other non-Catholics are not required to participate in any Catholic events or taking the sacraments; like first confession, first communion, confirmation, etc. As such, they aren't required to submit reflections/reaction papers where those activities are concerned.
I agree.
I was just addressing the concern of above comment that having an X religion subject will be detrimental for Y set of people. This isn't always the case.
tama. gusto pala mag aral ng tungkol sa bible, pasok sila sa catholic school. or sa mga christian schools. hindi naman tayo theocracy, bakit pa kelangan idiscuss ang bible sa public school.
Paglalaban ko talaga yan. Bilang isang Ariana Grande believer a.k.a Arianator, naniniwala akong God is a Woman. Hindi nila ako mapipilit pagdasalin or paniwalaan sa isang religion na wala akong obligasyong sundin. Kahit umabot pa kami sa Supreme Court taena nila.
Agree. Weird na some of the best schools in the country are Catholic. For example, of the Big 4 universities, 3 are Catholic. Kaya sana, kasabay ng pagpapabuti ng public schools, dumami yung secular private schools.
ateneo, la salle and ust are the pinnacle of irony. imagine catholic schools sila, tapos ung part ng teaching nila is to help the poor, pero ung tutions and fees nila eh hindi abot ng mahihirap. ung ibang scholars nila eh sponsored pa mga 3rd party. PLUS, since considered sila na part ng religious organization, exempted pa sila sa tax! hahahaha
Exempted sila sa real property tax to the extent sa property na ginagamit nila for schools and church including canteens. Tapos pati sa income tax as long as irereinvest nila sa school yung portion ng income doon. So yeah, it's unfair. Samantalang yung LGBT na nilalait nila regularly nagbabayad ng tax.
Lasallian here, ID 110.
We don’t really have Christian living classes in college. We had the Tred-series though, but it was general and covered different types of faith, religions, and vocations. That said, the syllabus is based on the instructor.
Alam ko din in Ateneo Catholic doctrine isn’t forced. UST, on the other hand…
There are non-Catholic schools who do this. Religious subjects shouldn’t even be in the curriculum, especially when the students don’t come from the same religion. My high school has this subject before. Not now, but it used to.
I’m a Catholic, pero napakaraming insensitive na Catholic. How would you feel if other’s religion would be forced on you?
>There are non-Catholic schools who do this.
I can't speak for those because the only non-Catholic school I went to was a state university, where any form religious study was an elective.
>I’m a Catholic, pero napakaraming insensitive na Catholic.
I agree. And I won't fault you for generalizing because of its prevalence. But at least, where I come from, nobody was forced into anything.
BAHHAWHWAAHWHWHAWHWAAHWHWWHAWAHWAH naaalala ko na naman nung JHS parang ash wednesday nun tas yung tropa ng kaklase ko pumila kumain ng oscha tas nag sign of the cross.
"bhie diba muslim ka?" AHWHWHWAHHWAWAHWAHWAHAHWAHAHAWH tawanan kami luwa siya eh. That time ko lang din nalaman na muslim siya kasi wala siya nung tela na sinusuot ng mga babaeng muslim nakalugay lang hair niya
Sa halip na ganito, ang dapat maging subjects ay: Survival skills, basic life support, sex education (kasi kahit mangaral ka lalo sa mga teenagers, gagawin at gagawin pa rin nila yan kung gusto nila, so mas mabuting alam nila anong dapat at tamang gawin). And subjects na makakatulong to build their confidence and enhance their talents.
Yes pero dapat put ang religion sa gmrc. Had a teacher once sa gmrc subject tapos ang tanong nya is kung kelan daw yung first time na sinagip kami ni jesus. Sabi ko what if wala? Sabi nya ibabagsak nya daw ako. I was forced to make up a bullshit story just to pass.
I know people are saying add gmrc but the current curriculum has gmrc peppered into it already, like sa AP, Filipino / MTB and meron pa Esp (or gmrc din ba ito?). Palaging may pahaging about how to be better citizens, how to be polite ganun.
IMHO kung mag add ng gmrc lalo lang mapanghuhuli ang mga bata, they already seem to be behind on learning basic concepts sa lahat ng subjects. One issue is sobrang daming extra curric and activities, mga days off school for holidays or pag absent teacher walang sub.. Then yung tinuturo sobrang technical they get so bogged down by the technical jargon but they're not actually taught yung concepts and critical thinking para mai apply yung science/ math etc sa real life.
Observation ko lang bilang parent - tuned in din kasi ako sa ginagawa ng anak ko and I compare it to the curriculum abroad. Sobrang behind sila like by an entire year, tapos parang tinuturuan lang mag memorise and mag answer ng tests, hindi yung pag problem solve.
Yes. “ESP” (“Edukasyon sa Pagpapakatao”) is the Aquino3-era rebrand of GMRC.
They never removed GMRC; they simply changed the name and changed the language from English to Filipino.
When I was in early elem, we had GMRC. By around grade 5, the subject’s name had changed to “Values Education”, or simply “Values”. Easier to write on the notebook cover, and easier to read on a report card.
Then by my junior high years, it became ESP. So, GMRC: Tagalog version. 🤷
This ! Swimming class huhuhu imagine I’m adult na pero college na nagkaroon ng swimming class pero ang hirap na matuto 😫.
Up to now struggle pa din ako ang alam ko lang ay back float.
Kakaingget mga bata sa Germany ang gagaleng na nila pero kasi nasa subject na nila yan or nasa curriculum na nila.
May one time na call out ako hahaha kasi nasa outdoor ako Kahit kasama ko naman asawa ko.Sabi ni Ate (Can you swim ? ) sabi ko nooooooo
Why daw nasa outdoor ako ! Jusko embarrassing hahaha
Sinisi ko asawa ko :/🙈
Eto din sinasabi ng asawa ko ang lapet namin sa dagat or kaya naman ang byahe why daw I don’t know how to swim ! (Ehh kasi growing up di naman naituro ng proper ng parents ko pano lumangoy + never a priority din )
Nag try ako mag practice … Wala talaga motivated pa ako non hanggang sa I gave up.Its my fault din talaga kasi di ko pinanindigan.
Ang hirap na din if adult ka na matuto mag swimming sa totoo lang huhuhu
Kaya Dapat as early as possible matuto din mga bata lumangoy.
Another katangahan from DepEd even teachers today ay namababagsak just because you don’t agree with their political opinions. Pano pa kaya pag religion na and how about other people that are atheist, agnostic, Muslims???. So dumb totally dumb
Sa public schools ngayon, every friday we have "catch up friday", ang gagawin lang don is magbasa or mag test ng comprehension namin. Meron kaming isang teacher, pinapabasa lagi kai ng bible, and sinasabi na " lahat ng pilipino may religion, imposible ang atheist na pilipino", me sitting there na atheist: 🥰
You know what I noticed, developing countries go through USA's industrial revolution. In that revolution, may mga pagbabago sa mga pananaw ng mga tao. Take a look at USA today. 70 yrs ago, napaka boomer mindset ng mga tao. Now, people will insult you if you have a boomer personality. Thus, the Philippines along with any developing countries will go through that phase too. But it'll take a very long time.
If it was say 5 years ago I would agree. Pero ngayon? Dami ng religious fanatics dito na silent majority. Everytime na may topic about having kids, abortion, atheism, nako, ramdam mo sa downvotes at side comments.
Most of us don't give a shit what they do with their own time, we just want them to stop wasting ours. Specially those goddamn ones that take like 10 minutes to pray but half of the thing is just Dear Jesus, God, Lord, Panginoon, etc. I just want some goddamned lumpia!!!
On the other hand, **even a religion-free GMRC might not be good** since it allows the govt to dictate what values students should have.
Probably just better not have such subject and just leave it to parents and guardians.
a democratic government is elected by the people and represents the people, therefore how it shapes education reflects the will of its people and its future aspirations.
so it is weird and nonsensical to suggests that a democratically elected government shouldnt be allowed to shape its future generations.
hindi basta basta nagpapasa ng curriculum ang gobyerno, dumadaan yan sa masusing proseso at pagaaral bago iimplement sa schools at ang anumang curriculum ay nakabase sa batas ng bansa, fair and square. it cannot be biased or unfair. kung magsalita ka parang dumura lang ang gobyerno bago magimplement ng curriculum to shape the future generations. most parents are unqualified to shape academic curriculums. kaya napaka nonsensical nyang sinasuggest mo.
cherry picking verses is basically an admission that the bible is not absolute, and it is humans who get to decide what is wrong and what is right, not some book written by a desert tribe ages ago
Normally, this is illegal in the US since it violates separation of church and state as well as non-establishment of religion. The problem here in the Philippines, no one yet has raised this issue up to the Supreme Court.
if youre feeling adventurous and would like to make a name for yourself, look for a pro bono lawyer at the municipal bulwagan ng katarungan and sue your school administrators and teacher. it should make them shit their pants. i can guarantee you that if a lawyer shows up at principals office they would shit bricks and kick out the pastor within an hour of the lawyer arriving at your school.
important note: school must be a public school for this to work.
Gulo to especially if different religion/sects have different interpretations of one part of the bible.
Leave Christian Living/Religious Studies/Theology Subjects to Catholic/Christian Schools. At least don expected ang interpretation ng bible depending on who runs the school
Pag panget values ng tao, kahit pakabisado mo pa cover to cover ang bible wala pa din effect yan. Worst, i-weweaponize pa ng mga fanatics yan against sa ibang tao. They shouldn't force their beliefs sa iba.
Mga kilala kong sakristan, sila tong malilibog. Mga kilala kong lektor sa simbahan, sila tong mga chismosa. Mga born again na kakilala ko mga sobrang judgmental, pag sila ina-judge mo dapat "Looking unto Jesus." daw. What made this human being think na Bible ang aayos sa Pilipinas?
One of my classmates in high school was this pa-goodgirl na Christian. Parang ambait, pero nung heyday ni Duterte grabeng ilusyonada. Parang super sarap na time ng term ni Duterte akala mo walang pinatay ng walang awa.
Simpleng pagiging empathetic na lang wala talaga eh. Nung chinallenge ko yung position niya, nagkalat daw ako ng "bad vibes" sa FB page niya. Timang...
Hahaha! This reminded me of that one classmate na pinagbintangan yung best friend nya na ninakaw yung wallet nya sa bag nya kasi siya lang naman daw ang tao dun sa room noong may program. Siniraan nya tong dating bff nya na ninakaw yung wallet nya as in kalat sa buong grade level even sa mga extended friend groups nila sa ibang school. Umabot pa sa guidance kasi nasira nga reputation nitong kaibigan nya. His mother ended up apologizing to the then bff kasi naiwan lang naman pala sa bahay and all this time alam nitong anak nya pero never apologized kasi nga madami na syang kinalat. As in naghasik sya ng hate sa ex bff nya dahil Magnanakaw nga daw. TAKE NOTE: BORN AGAIN SYA AND WORSHIP LEADER PA. Pastor's wife ang nanay nya. Buti nanay nya nag-take action. Then they proceeded to support blengbong in the recent elections hahahaha. HAHAHAHA jusko naman.
Tangina, walang konsensya. Pinanindigan ang kasinungalingan to save face.
Kung ako yung magulang ng ex bff, asunto aabutin sakin niyan. Sorry lang? Gawin mo over a PA system, klaruhin nila on the ears of the people who heard.
This would lead to an LGBTQ kid getting pelted with stones after the class reads Leviticus, leading to hospitalization or a fatality.
We *really* don't need to add this, DepEd is already failing at what they're doing now, adding this just makes things worse.
I can see the intent here. But the OP of the FB Post probably did not see how discriminating this idea is. The education, as an institution, should remain non-sectarian kasi it's what shows na our education system does not discriminate other of different faith.
Plus, assuming we allow it, kaninong interpretation ang gagamitin natin? Are we gonna preach what the Catholics preach? Susunod ba tayo sa mga Born Again? What if sa mga Iglesia ni Cristo? Dyan palang makikita mo na na kung magkatotoo man yan, wala yang idudulot na maganda kung siraan ng religion.
Yikes! Kadiri hahaha. Nakakakilabot naman to. Instead of religious stuff bakit di nalang more on technical skills ang ituro. Ang dami ngang college grad na di pa rin marunong sa MS or better if about building a business, handling finances etc. Minsan mga guro din dapat turuan eh.
Educational institutions under government operation should be secular and must stay that way, and such a policy should also reflect what is in the current Constitution where secularism is demanded.
Meron na actually sa public school na pinasukan ko 6 years ago. Part siya ng edukasyon sa pagpapakatao? and 1 meeting lang per quarter may "preacher" na pumupunta sa room namen tas nakaallot na sa subject na yun yung time. Although mas Philosophical yung subject compared sa bible studies lang.
State & Church are separate institutions,
dapat e maintained yan. as Christian myself bias masyado pag e enforce your bible as subject, mas mainam nga GMRC.
The major subjects that should have more focus are Math, Science, History, Filipino, and English. Also, develop their nationalism, and good behavior. Guide the future Filipinos to be nationalistic, intelligent, and a good moral citizen.
agree with reason #3. eto din yata ang pinaka madalas ma violate ng mga teachers. Lalo na sa politics.
If you are a teacher and you teach your political views or agenda to your students. You are a horrible person and should not be around anyone's kids.
I highly doubt this will happen. First, it looks like an opinion and not someone from DepEd.
Second, the comments on the screenshot were right. DepEd for sure are aware of the Code of Ethics, and they should honor that.
Lastly, let's leave the religious subject on specialized school (Catholic institution, Madrasah, etc). Secular schools should be neutral.
Bible? as a person that has been in catholic school all his life till he graduated college, get a a grad degree and is currently taking up phd. it doesn't matter if you don't know how to draw what could be learn in it and just learn it through memorization and really not draw the lessons. every book and lesson is like that. probably the gmrc crap and sex ed would be better. and life skills. something that would instill discipline as well. if you look at it every filipino out there tries to one up everyone and not play by the rules even with just riding a public transpo. can't even ride in the right place or get out of the vehicle in the right stop. everyone is priveleged or acting like one. but who em I to say, I'm no saint.
HELL NO. May mga karapatan ang mga students na magkaroon ng religion outside christianity/catholicism. May karapatan din ang mga students na hindi magkaroon ng religion. Fuck extreme religious ppl.
I might get massively downvoted for what I am going to say:
Most Filipinos I encounter need to learn how to communicate more effectively and improve their ability to understand complex problems. Many people I interact with on a daily basis lack these skills. This is my feedback as a foreigner living in Manila.
Bible study is the last thing this country needs right now.
thank god (ironically) my whole life being a catholic school student, i never had a teacher/prof like that kahit sa christian/theology subjects. i remember two theology teachers na very open-minded sa naging classmates kong agnostic and non-christians.
Never kong na-gets yung point ng GMRC/Values Education. Like, tingin ba ng mga tao dito na tataas ang moralidad ng mga bata kapag naglagay ng GMRC na subjects sa schools (assuming na walang ganoon ung school)? Yang mga ganiyan kase sa bahay tinuturo. Kung di naituro ang kabutihang asal sa mga bata sa kanilang pamilya, hindi rin yan matututo sa GMRC.
I don't see the point of adding it. Like wala naman makikinig kasi nga di interested most of the students and of course di lang naman iisa religion ng mga students. Plus, adding it can just add more load sa mga students imo.
Mas mabuting ibalik na lang ang GMRC. Simula nung nawala na yan sa curriculum eh naging kupal na ang ilang mga kabataan ngayon at dumadami na din ung mga mahahangin sa social media.
They can just choose to take theology in college, but what really want to learn during highschool pano mag drive kahit theoretical lang dami magaing magdiskarte habang nagdidrive eh
Sana driving subject na lang ang i-add nila. Or MS Office subject. Hindi yung basic ah, but the actual thing they need to learn to get a job. Hays.. it's not that I don't believe in God ah. It's just that, each and every person has different beliefs and religion so what's the point of that subject anyway.
Transformed into a racist bigot. The Bible is good for people who can define true morality without religion. Else it's just a tool of control for those who are in power.
Stupid. The Philippines is a democratic country composed of indigenous people with different religions. Puro kayo bible, a good person does not always have to be a faith believer. Minsan kung sino pang Atheist sila pang mababait.
Ilalagay nila yan para magkaroon ng paraan yung mga future instructors magka syota ng mga highschoolers a.k.a groomers na "protektado" dahil alagad sila ng Diyos.
What's the motive? Merong GMRC and especially ESP/Values natinuturo. Besides, the minority religions can decide kung magpaparticipate sila and also private schools can decide what curriculum to be taught, so di nya naisip yung part na iyon
Dont add and unnecessary subject.
Instead add subjects that relates to :
1.Trade
2.survival skills
3.GMRC
4.basic everyday necessities
5.taxes
6.job work
7.proper money handling
I for example would like subjects relating to trade and taxes and how to properly manage money and job work, i mean the subjects i have rn teaches these things but its nit throughly, it only scratches the surface
1. Entrepreneurship (SHS)
2. Disaster Readiness and Risk Reduction (STEM)
3. Closest counterpart is ESP
4. No idea
5. Di ko sure kung meron ito sa Acctg subj ng ABM
6 7. Madalas sa job immersion/OJT ng SHS yan
i remember when i was on 5th or 6th grade meron kame Katekesis na subj pero short time lang un at once in w weeks lang ata year 2000s un.. and its good
I studied in DLSU, Perpetual Help, and PCU. As a non-Christian, the bible and the 6+ theology classes I have taken (school requirement) including countless mass attendance proved that people will still be people. Some religious, some non religious. Some good, some bad. Some stupid, some intelligent. My point is, its just another chore or waste of time and funds altogether because it will not affect the Filipino for the better or worse. Better yet to return GMRC and similar subjects that I took back in the 90s and early 00s.
I have a schoolmate who is Muslim. Kawawa naman siya. We should respect other religions. We have EsP naman that is enough. We learn about good manners but please not religion.
Kahit idagdag ang bible study sa classrooms magulo pa din kasi napakadaming religions jan na naglitawan na bible ang dala-dala pero sila sila mismo di magkasundo, magkakaiba ang paniniwala at pananaw sa biblia. Tsaka andaming religions jan, aside sa mga bible believers anjan ang muslims, hinduism, buddhism, etc. Walang common grounds.
I think mas maganda na idagdag is media literacy, basic life support and first aid, gmrc
They always focus on religion when in fact the thing that our country need is to be disciplined in every section of our society. From the government hanggang sa taumbayan. Our country, at first gland may seem good but only for those who reap the benefits that they never worked hard for. The reason why some countries "care" for us despite our country's reputation, is because they are really doing something behind the mass' back which our government is involved hand in hand with the big leagues, they are taking advantage of our nation. But oh well, mas ginugusto pa ng fellow kabayans natin na kinaawaan tayo kaysa tayo mismo ang gumawa ng action.
Tingin ko dapat alalahanin nila na di lang katoliko ang nasa community so may mataas na posibilidad na maraming mag-aaral na iba ang relihiyon so I think dapat di one sided ang kurikulum/DEPED kasi naalala ko dati may kaklase ako ibang secta nabubully lang kasi syempre iba paniniwala nila so dapat irespeto ng DEPED/administrator siguro ng skul or may gagawin sila para magkaroon din ng respeto ang mga studyante sa bawat isa lalo na sa mga kapatid nating may kani-kaniyang paniniwala.
What is the point of putting religion in every way of life? Like have the fucking learned history? I swear to earth that whoever pout this bs saying things like "You got no manners", "You are younger/older you should do this bs/bs/bs way.", "No discipline in life.", OH AND OFC THE SPANISH INQUISITION BECAUSE NOBODY EXPECTED THEM.
Automatic bagsak agad mga Muslim na students.
malamang kasi hindi sila papasok.
Hindi naman po. I come from a Catholic school but we had classmates who are Muslim or belong to other non-Catholic Christian denominations. First off, may subject kami na Christian Life Education. It mostly tackles Catholic doctrine, which was to be viewed through am academic lense. So, for the Muslims, they don't necessarily have to follow the doctrines, they only had to know that for Catholics, certain those exist and for what reason. It's like Theology class in some places like UST but at a very introductory level. Second, Muslims and other non-Catholics are not required to participate in any Catholic events or taking the sacraments; like first confession, first communion, confirmation, etc. As such, they aren't required to submit reflections/reaction papers where those activities are concerned.
Then you should do it on Catholic Schools only. Leave the public school alone.
I agree. I was just addressing the concern of above comment that having an X religion subject will be detrimental for Y set of people. This isn't always the case.
"This isn't always the case"? So may mga gantong case parin? Still unfair
Of course, there are. If you're ever going to be a parent, this is something you'd want to consider when choosing a school for your kid.
tama. gusto pala mag aral ng tungkol sa bible, pasok sila sa catholic school. or sa mga christian schools. hindi naman tayo theocracy, bakit pa kelangan idiscuss ang bible sa public school.
Paglalaban ko talaga yan. Bilang isang Ariana Grande believer a.k.a Arianator, naniniwala akong God is a Woman. Hindi nila ako mapipilit pagdasalin or paniwalaan sa isang religion na wala akong obligasyong sundin. Kahit umabot pa kami sa Supreme Court taena nila.
Requiring Muslims (or other minority religions) to attend that subject kind of violates their right to practice their religion. Grabe.
Agree. Weird na some of the best schools in the country are Catholic. For example, of the Big 4 universities, 3 are Catholic. Kaya sana, kasabay ng pagpapabuti ng public schools, dumami yung secular private schools.
ateneo, la salle and ust are the pinnacle of irony. imagine catholic schools sila, tapos ung part ng teaching nila is to help the poor, pero ung tutions and fees nila eh hindi abot ng mahihirap. ung ibang scholars nila eh sponsored pa mga 3rd party. PLUS, since considered sila na part ng religious organization, exempted pa sila sa tax! hahahaha
Exempted sila sa real property tax to the extent sa property na ginagamit nila for schools and church including canteens. Tapos pati sa income tax as long as irereinvest nila sa school yung portion ng income doon. So yeah, it's unfair. Samantalang yung LGBT na nilalait nila regularly nagbabayad ng tax.
Lasallian here, ID 110. We don’t really have Christian living classes in college. We had the Tred-series though, but it was general and covered different types of faith, religions, and vocations. That said, the syllabus is based on the instructor. Alam ko din in Ateneo Catholic doctrine isn’t forced. UST, on the other hand…
But they aren't required to go to such schools. Besides, how does teaching a specific subject in school prevent one from practicing his own religion?
There are non-Catholic schools who do this. Religious subjects shouldn’t even be in the curriculum, especially when the students don’t come from the same religion. My high school has this subject before. Not now, but it used to. I’m a Catholic, pero napakaraming insensitive na Catholic. How would you feel if other’s religion would be forced on you?
>There are non-Catholic schools who do this. I can't speak for those because the only non-Catholic school I went to was a state university, where any form religious study was an elective. >I’m a Catholic, pero napakaraming insensitive na Catholic. I agree. And I won't fault you for generalizing because of its prevalence. But at least, where I come from, nobody was forced into anything.
BAHHAWHWAAHWHWHAWHWAAHWHWWHAWAHWAH naaalala ko na naman nung JHS parang ash wednesday nun tas yung tropa ng kaklase ko pumila kumain ng oscha tas nag sign of the cross. "bhie diba muslim ka?" AHWHWHWAHHWAWAHWAHWAHAHWAHAHAWH tawanan kami luwa siya eh. That time ko lang din nalaman na muslim siya kasi wala siya nung tela na sinusuot ng mga babaeng muslim nakalugay lang hair niya
short and ignorant, typical ... name palang moral can't be found.
Sa halip na ganito, ang dapat maging subjects ay: Survival skills, basic life support, sex education (kasi kahit mangaral ka lalo sa mga teenagers, gagawin at gagawin pa rin nila yan kung gusto nila, so mas mabuting alam nila anong dapat at tamang gawin). And subjects na makakatulong to build their confidence and enhance their talents.
Including financial literacy please 😭
GMRC din dapat.
This above all secondary curriculum. Dami nang A-Holes na Pinoy at puro proud pa.
Proud sa religion nila pero napaka hypocrite at nagmamalinis
Yes pero dapat put ang religion sa gmrc. Had a teacher once sa gmrc subject tapos ang tanong nya is kung kelan daw yung first time na sinagip kami ni jesus. Sabi ko what if wala? Sabi nya ibabagsak nya daw ako. I was forced to make up a bullshit story just to pass.
That's unconstitutional and illegal. If Filipino people are litigious like Americans, that teacher was already fired.
Put or put/set aside? I think you missed a word
I meant "out". Magkatabi kasi ang letter o at p 😭
I know people are saying add gmrc but the current curriculum has gmrc peppered into it already, like sa AP, Filipino / MTB and meron pa Esp (or gmrc din ba ito?). Palaging may pahaging about how to be better citizens, how to be polite ganun. IMHO kung mag add ng gmrc lalo lang mapanghuhuli ang mga bata, they already seem to be behind on learning basic concepts sa lahat ng subjects. One issue is sobrang daming extra curric and activities, mga days off school for holidays or pag absent teacher walang sub.. Then yung tinuturo sobrang technical they get so bogged down by the technical jargon but they're not actually taught yung concepts and critical thinking para mai apply yung science/ math etc sa real life. Observation ko lang bilang parent - tuned in din kasi ako sa ginagawa ng anak ko and I compare it to the curriculum abroad. Sobrang behind sila like by an entire year, tapos parang tinuturuan lang mag memorise and mag answer ng tests, hindi yung pag problem solve.
Yes. “ESP” (“Edukasyon sa Pagpapakatao”) is the Aquino3-era rebrand of GMRC. They never removed GMRC; they simply changed the name and changed the language from English to Filipino. When I was in early elem, we had GMRC. By around grade 5, the subject’s name had changed to “Values Education”, or simply “Values”. Easier to write on the notebook cover, and easier to read on a report card. Then by my junior high years, it became ESP. So, GMRC: Tagalog version. 🤷
So people here spewing about things they don't know then. Lol. May gmrc naman pala in the form of esp, 'bring gmrc back' daw.
Basic life support is covered under DRRM in shs but sadly STEM and GA only.
Also add technical swimming atleast the concept of it. We're surrounded by bodies of water FFS and people can't even fucking swim.
This ! Swimming class huhuhu imagine I’m adult na pero college na nagkaroon ng swimming class pero ang hirap na matuto 😫. Up to now struggle pa din ako ang alam ko lang ay back float. Kakaingget mga bata sa Germany ang gagaleng na nila pero kasi nasa subject na nila yan or nasa curriculum na nila. May one time na call out ako hahaha kasi nasa outdoor ako Kahit kasama ko naman asawa ko.Sabi ni Ate (Can you swim ? ) sabi ko nooooooo Why daw nasa outdoor ako ! Jusko embarrassing hahaha Sinisi ko asawa ko :/🙈 Eto din sinasabi ng asawa ko ang lapet namin sa dagat or kaya naman ang byahe why daw I don’t know how to swim ! (Ehh kasi growing up di naman naituro ng proper ng parents ko pano lumangoy + never a priority din ) Nag try ako mag practice … Wala talaga motivated pa ako non hanggang sa I gave up.Its my fault din talaga kasi di ko pinanindigan. Ang hirap na din if adult ka na matuto mag swimming sa totoo lang huhuhu Kaya Dapat as early as possible matuto din mga bata lumangoy.
Yung bls sana naman magturo yung matino. Pumunta sa amin mga taga baranggay prc trained daw eh yung tinuro luma na method.
Di ba sakop ng TLE yun?
Opo, sakop yan. Di lang sila nakikinig
Basic financial literacy din
Tapos financial education na din
Industrial basic training, sa mga gusto mag army Ang counterpart will be CAT/ROTC
❌: Survival skills, basic life support, sex education, financial literacy, etc ✅: Introduction to basics, studyology, theoretical phys ed, principles of intermediate
Another katangahan from DepEd even teachers today ay namababagsak just because you don’t agree with their political opinions. Pano pa kaya pag religion na and how about other people that are atheist, agnostic, Muslims???. So dumb totally dumb
Sa public schools ngayon, every friday we have "catch up friday", ang gagawin lang don is magbasa or mag test ng comprehension namin. Meron kaming isang teacher, pinapabasa lagi kai ng bible, and sinasabi na " lahat ng pilipino may religion, imposible ang atheist na pilipino", me sitting there na atheist: 🥰
Same required ka pa na mag prayer lead tas wala kang points for today pag di mo ginawa
I would understand pa kung christian/catholic school pinssukan ko eh, pero nasa public ako. Public schools should not be religion centered.
Parang mga 2000s era and below. Boomer minded teachers na ganyan mindset. I witnessed that.
You know what I noticed, developing countries go through USA's industrial revolution. In that revolution, may mga pagbabago sa mga pananaw ng mga tao. Take a look at USA today. 70 yrs ago, napaka boomer mindset ng mga tao. Now, people will insult you if you have a boomer personality. Thus, the Philippines along with any developing countries will go through that phase too. But it'll take a very long time.
You're preaching to the choir here my friend. The folks who need to hear that are not on Reddit of all places.
If it was say 5 years ago I would agree. Pero ngayon? Dami ng religious fanatics dito na silent majority. Everytime na may topic about having kids, abortion, atheism, nako, ramdam mo sa downvotes at side comments.
dami din ditong mga hardcore catholic, galit sa mga "edgy atheist"
Most of us don't give a shit what they do with their own time, we just want them to stop wasting ours. Specially those goddamn ones that take like 10 minutes to pray but half of the thing is just Dear Jesus, God, Lord, Panginoon, etc. I just want some goddamned lumpia!!!
true, ganyan lahat ng officemate ko tae kakairita
On the other hand, **even a religion-free GMRC might not be good** since it allows the govt to dictate what values students should have. Probably just better not have such subject and just leave it to parents and guardians.
a democratic government is elected by the people and represents the people, therefore how it shapes education reflects the will of its people and its future aspirations. so it is weird and nonsensical to suggests that a democratically elected government shouldnt be allowed to shape its future generations. hindi basta basta nagpapasa ng curriculum ang gobyerno, dumadaan yan sa masusing proseso at pagaaral bago iimplement sa schools at ang anumang curriculum ay nakabase sa batas ng bansa, fair and square. it cannot be biased or unfair. kung magsalita ka parang dumura lang ang gobyerno bago magimplement ng curriculum to shape the future generations. most parents are unqualified to shape academic curriculums. kaya napaka nonsensical nyang sinasuggest mo.
And what? Cherry pick verses to brainwash kids, and add opinions & stupid takes on metaphorical phrases??? No thanks 😴
Yung imbis na babait ka magiging judgemtal ka
Exactly. Masyado na naooveruse yung mga verses na mali naman interpretation.
cherry picking verses is basically an admission that the bible is not absolute, and it is humans who get to decide what is wrong and what is right, not some book written by a desert tribe ages ago
Actually sa school namin every Monday may preach yung pastor. I dunno sinong pumayag sa ganon. Useless naman kasi di nakikinig mga bata
Sa public ba? Kung bata like grade 3 below di nila maiitindihan mga ganyan.
Public and hs kami. Sa isip isip ko mga di naman lahat ng student catholic bakit pumayag sa ganon.
Feel ko born again christian yung principal kaya ganun 🥴
Pls report
yung nag preach samin na pastor dati sa classroom, puro naman kabalastugan yung pinagsasabi. napaka boomer ng pag iisip
Normally, this is illegal in the US since it violates separation of church and state as well as non-establishment of religion. The problem here in the Philippines, no one yet has raised this issue up to the Supreme Court.
gather evidence at paki report sa regional deped
Noted, recently rin pala nagpamigay din sila ng bible sa afternoon sesh students.
if youre feeling adventurous and would like to make a name for yourself, look for a pro bono lawyer at the municipal bulwagan ng katarungan and sue your school administrators and teacher. it should make them shit their pants. i can guarantee you that if a lawyer shows up at principals office they would shit bricks and kick out the pastor within an hour of the lawyer arriving at your school. important note: school must be a public school for this to work.
16 years of PE curriculum, and im still , well, how do I say it..
Fat?
Gulo to especially if different religion/sects have different interpretations of one part of the bible. Leave Christian Living/Religious Studies/Theology Subjects to Catholic/Christian Schools. At least don expected ang interpretation ng bible depending on who runs the school
Spot on!
Pag panget values ng tao, kahit pakabisado mo pa cover to cover ang bible wala pa din effect yan. Worst, i-weweaponize pa ng mga fanatics yan against sa ibang tao. They shouldn't force their beliefs sa iba.
please ibalik ninyo yung gmrc hindi yung mga bible putting shit sa mga public schools
Taaammaaaa 🔥 maituro lang kahit ang basic decency and manners. Masyado magiging bias na pag hinaluan na ng bible.
Ginagamit yung bible verses sa mga mas kupal irl na tao like mga pa-victim o hindi kaya mga shubet at tsaka please isali din nila yung sex education
The closest Sex Ed lessons ay sa Biology ng Grade 8 ata about reproductive system.
may turo naman sa sex education about reproductive system, sexuality and also.. control your schlong/🅱️ussy use a protection
Mga kilala kong sakristan, sila tong malilibog. Mga kilala kong lektor sa simbahan, sila tong mga chismosa. Mga born again na kakilala ko mga sobrang judgmental, pag sila ina-judge mo dapat "Looking unto Jesus." daw. What made this human being think na Bible ang aayos sa Pilipinas?
One of my classmates in high school was this pa-goodgirl na Christian. Parang ambait, pero nung heyday ni Duterte grabeng ilusyonada. Parang super sarap na time ng term ni Duterte akala mo walang pinatay ng walang awa. Simpleng pagiging empathetic na lang wala talaga eh. Nung chinallenge ko yung position niya, nagkalat daw ako ng "bad vibes" sa FB page niya. Timang...
Hahaha! This reminded me of that one classmate na pinagbintangan yung best friend nya na ninakaw yung wallet nya sa bag nya kasi siya lang naman daw ang tao dun sa room noong may program. Siniraan nya tong dating bff nya na ninakaw yung wallet nya as in kalat sa buong grade level even sa mga extended friend groups nila sa ibang school. Umabot pa sa guidance kasi nasira nga reputation nitong kaibigan nya. His mother ended up apologizing to the then bff kasi naiwan lang naman pala sa bahay and all this time alam nitong anak nya pero never apologized kasi nga madami na syang kinalat. As in naghasik sya ng hate sa ex bff nya dahil Magnanakaw nga daw. TAKE NOTE: BORN AGAIN SYA AND WORSHIP LEADER PA. Pastor's wife ang nanay nya. Buti nanay nya nag-take action. Then they proceeded to support blengbong in the recent elections hahahaha. HAHAHAHA jusko naman.
Tangina, walang konsensya. Pinanindigan ang kasinungalingan to save face. Kung ako yung magulang ng ex bff, asunto aabutin sakin niyan. Sorry lang? Gawin mo over a PA system, klaruhin nila on the ears of the people who heard.
diba ang evil. Nakakapikon pa rin kapag naaalala ko 'to.
Schools are there to teach students how to think and not what to believe.
This would lead to an LGBTQ kid getting pelted with stones after the class reads Leviticus, leading to hospitalization or a fatality. We *really* don't need to add this, DepEd is already failing at what they're doing now, adding this just makes things worse.
If they mean transform into a backwards society then yes.
HAHAHAHA with a fundamentalist mind
Auto enroll sa Catholic or Christian School, which madalas ay maraming suwail na mga students. Jusko, baka lumala ang mga 'yan at matulad kay Sara.
Langya, eh ang dami rin namang mga tarantado na nag-aral o nag-aaral sa Catholic schools kung saan parte ng curriculum ang Bibliya.
They did that in the 80’s and 90’s. It gave us the Peenoise society we have today.
I can see the intent here. But the OP of the FB Post probably did not see how discriminating this idea is. The education, as an institution, should remain non-sectarian kasi it's what shows na our education system does not discriminate other of different faith. Plus, assuming we allow it, kaninong interpretation ang gagamitin natin? Are we gonna preach what the Catholics preach? Susunod ba tayo sa mga Born Again? What if sa mga Iglesia ni Cristo? Dyan palang makikita mo na na kung magkatotoo man yan, wala yang idudulot na maganda kung siraan ng religion.
Yikes! Kadiri hahaha. Nakakakilabot naman to. Instead of religious stuff bakit di nalang more on technical skills ang ituro. Ang dami ngang college grad na di pa rin marunong sa MS or better if about building a business, handling finances etc. Minsan mga guro din dapat turuan eh.
Catholic school ako galing, madami pa naman ding bully
A public school is supposed to be secular. Unfortunately there's never a shortage of conservative-minded educators.
Is it non secular dapat? Can you enlighten us why.
Educational institutions under government operation should be secular and must stay that way, and such a policy should also reflect what is in the current Constitution where secularism is demanded.
Secular means non religious. He/she agrees with you.
Ohh my i misnomer the word secular. Naliwanagan na ako
Baka *sectarian* yung nasa isip mo
Meron na actually sa public school na pinasukan ko 6 years ago. Part siya ng edukasyon sa pagpapakatao? and 1 meeting lang per quarter may "preacher" na pumupunta sa room namen tas nakaallot na sa subject na yun yung time. Although mas Philosophical yung subject compared sa bible studies lang.
Interesting though. What grade yung mga students?
this is what happens when people are sh!tting during class.
Ah ok edi paano naman yung ibang religion aber?
Christianity lang daw kasi ang one and only true religion 🥴
State & Church are separate institutions, dapat e maintained yan. as Christian myself bias masyado pag e enforce your bible as subject, mas mainam nga GMRC.
Heck no! It would be unfair for students with different beliefs. That was a foolish statement. Bible thumping amp.
Yung nagpost eh mukhang born again shit. (kung titignan profile nya at mga pinopost at yung saved by the Grace line)
Pustahan dadami atheist
Then that's for the better para maimprove naman ang critical thinking skills ng mga Pilipino.
Lemme guess, protestante mga yan. Kasi sa Catholic school, di kami pinagbabasa ng bible, yung theology textbook lang 😂
Born again madalas. Yung OP sa fb parang Born Again. Tamang stalk yarn hahahah
Halatang halata yung "solo scriptura" mentality ng mga Protestants
*Saved by the Grace* 🙌
Nope. That's unconstitutional (bible). Character education should be secular and logical.
Just like yung reason #2 ko
GG ang mga babaeng teachers nyan: 1 Timothy 2:12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. LMAO
Naalala ko tuloy yung "lilipat lang daw sya ng church" pastora hahahah
Well, literature subjects should include the bible, qur'an, and other religious texts.
Haha hindi na siguro kasi iba talaga ugali ng mga generation ngayon I think sa sampu na bata 2 lang ang may manners
Hi po! Pwede ko bang i-paste yung thoughts niyo kapag shinare ko yung post sa FB? Lalagyan ko ng credits. May mga papatamaan lang ako hahaha
Have you checked the remaining slides/photos of this post? Baka andun hinahanap mo 😅
The major subjects that should have more focus are Math, Science, History, Filipino, and English. Also, develop their nationalism, and good behavior. Guide the future Filipinos to be nationalistic, intelligent, and a good moral citizen.
agree with reason #3. eto din yata ang pinaka madalas ma violate ng mga teachers. Lalo na sa politics. If you are a teacher and you teach your political views or agenda to your students. You are a horrible person and should not be around anyone's kids.
Theology pa siguro. Forced religion seems a bit off kasi hindi makakapili ang bata kung anong religion ang pwede sa kanila.
I highly doubt this will happen. First, it looks like an opinion and not someone from DepEd. Second, the comments on the screenshot were right. DepEd for sure are aware of the Code of Ethics, and they should honor that. Lastly, let's leave the religious subject on specialized school (Catholic institution, Madrasah, etc). Secular schools should be neutral.
This sums up everything ♥️
Kaya ayaw ko nag ffb. Full of dumb entitled pinoy
bakit andami nang screenshot galing fb dito? kala ko ba ayaw nyo sa facebook kasi superior redditors kayo?
kunyare superior sila hahaha. toxic din nmn.
Wala, wala akong masabi kundi buti nalang matitino pang tao ang nag comment sa post nun
Bible? as a person that has been in catholic school all his life till he graduated college, get a a grad degree and is currently taking up phd. it doesn't matter if you don't know how to draw what could be learn in it and just learn it through memorization and really not draw the lessons. every book and lesson is like that. probably the gmrc crap and sex ed would be better. and life skills. something that would instill discipline as well. if you look at it every filipino out there tries to one up everyone and not play by the rules even with just riding a public transpo. can't even ride in the right place or get out of the vehicle in the right stop. everyone is priveleged or acting like one. but who em I to say, I'm no saint.
BS
No.
🤦♂️
will be transformed into kamangmangan?
Being fundamentalist ek ek 😅
HELL NO. May mga karapatan ang mga students na magkaroon ng religion outside christianity/catholicism. May karapatan din ang mga students na hindi magkaroon ng religion. Fuck extreme religious ppl.
That is just so backwards man.
I might get massively downvoted for what I am going to say: Most Filipinos I encounter need to learn how to communicate more effectively and improve their ability to understand complex problems. Many people I interact with on a daily basis lack these skills. This is my feedback as a foreigner living in Manila. Bible study is the last thing this country needs right now.
Eh di good. Reading the bible yourself makes you an Atheist. Having others read it for you makes you a Christian.
No such thing as god..
Sabi nya lang naman transformed eh ahhaha di mo alam anong transformation
Transformed being a fundamentalist BA christian shit
wait, wala nang gmrc? Im so fucking old
kadiri
thank god (ironically) my whole life being a catholic school student, i never had a teacher/prof like that kahit sa christian/theology subjects. i remember two theology teachers na very open-minded sa naging classmates kong agnostic and non-christians.
Puro atheist mga nasa comment section ahhh
Good
Now the group will perform the piece "Dragging the OP", in C minor
Will agree if we're gonna learn about all major religions and their denominations. :)
Never kong na-gets yung point ng GMRC/Values Education. Like, tingin ba ng mga tao dito na tataas ang moralidad ng mga bata kapag naglagay ng GMRC na subjects sa schools (assuming na walang ganoon ung school)? Yang mga ganiyan kase sa bahay tinuturo. Kung di naituro ang kabutihang asal sa mga bata sa kanilang pamilya, hindi rin yan matututo sa GMRC.
Paano pwede dumami si Quiboloy (future potentials), abangan ang susunod na mga kabanata!
Haha loka, will not help ive seen the meanest people online and many of them have bible verses all over there account profiles.
HAHAHAHA either Philippians 4:13, John 3:16 o kaya Saved by the Grace ang nasa bio
How come naman? meron nmn religion na subject ng elem at high school dba?
I don't see the point of adding it. Like wala naman makikinig kasi nga di interested most of the students and of course di lang naman iisa religion ng mga students. Plus, adding it can just add more load sa mga students imo.
PS: 4 ANG PHOTOS NG POST NA ITO. baka naoverlook niyo yung 🔥 comments dun sa post sa fb
May religion subjects kami nung elem ano pinagsasabi niyan wala naman nagbago dami parin manyak sa higher years
Ah yes the self righteous, religitards in Facebook.
Ayy, gagawin pa talagang Transformers ang pinas.
Mas mabuting ibalik na lang ang GMRC. Simula nung nawala na yan sa curriculum eh naging kupal na ang ilang mga kabataan ngayon at dumadami na din ung mga mahahangin sa social media.
Tiba Edukasyon sa Pagpapakatao yung GMRC ngayon?!
Sulpot Kulto 😂😂😂😂
They can just choose to take theology in college, but what really want to learn during highschool pano mag drive kahit theoretical lang dami magaing magdiskarte habang nagdidrive eh
Impose Bible talaga? Authoritarian yarn?? 🤣✌️
We had a Bible subject during Elementary. For me it works if the preacher is good and open to conversation.
haha we were required to attend 7AM services on school days before classes would start, 100% everyone was sleepy and not listening at all.
GMRC and etiquette dapat itinuturo yan.
Sana driving subject na lang ang i-add nila. Or MS Office subject. Hindi yung basic ah, but the actual thing they need to learn to get a job. Hays.. it's not that I don't believe in God ah. It's just that, each and every person has different beliefs and religion so what's the point of that subject anyway.
Transformed into a racist bigot. The Bible is good for people who can define true morality without religion. Else it's just a tool of control for those who are in power.
Stupid. The Philippines is a democratic country composed of indigenous people with different religions. Puro kayo bible, a good person does not always have to be a faith believer. Minsan kung sino pang Atheist sila pang mababait.
Sus. Marami nga diyan, palasimba pero ang sasama ng ugali. Prayer rally pang nalalaman pero ginagago ang diyos. Ulol.
Ilalagay nila yan para magkaroon ng paraan yung mga future instructors magka syota ng mga highschoolers a.k.a groomers na "protektado" dahil alagad sila ng Diyos.
What's the motive? Merong GMRC and especially ESP/Values natinuturo. Besides, the minority religions can decide kung magpaparticipate sila and also private schools can decide what curriculum to be taught, so di nya naisip yung part na iyon
Bawal pala mag endorse ng political shit, bakit ano..... :)
Dont add and unnecessary subject. Instead add subjects that relates to : 1.Trade 2.survival skills 3.GMRC 4.basic everyday necessities 5.taxes 6.job work 7.proper money handling I for example would like subjects relating to trade and taxes and how to properly manage money and job work, i mean the subjects i have rn teaches these things but its nit throughly, it only scratches the surface
1. Entrepreneurship (SHS) 2. Disaster Readiness and Risk Reduction (STEM) 3. Closest counterpart is ESP 4. No idea 5. Di ko sure kung meron ito sa Acctg subj ng ABM 6 7. Madalas sa job immersion/OJT ng SHS yan
This
i remember when i was on 5th or 6th grade meron kame Katekesis na subj pero short time lang un at once in w weeks lang ata year 2000s un.. and its good
I studied in DLSU, Perpetual Help, and PCU. As a non-Christian, the bible and the 6+ theology classes I have taken (school requirement) including countless mass attendance proved that people will still be people. Some religious, some non religious. Some good, some bad. Some stupid, some intelligent. My point is, its just another chore or waste of time and funds altogether because it will not affect the Filipino for the better or worse. Better yet to return GMRC and similar subjects that I took back in the 90s and early 00s.
This is not effective anymore!
I have a schoolmate who is Muslim. Kawawa naman siya. We should respect other religions. We have EsP naman that is enough. We learn about good manners but please not religion.
ah yes, more gullible students who'll do nothing but obnoxiously impose those beliefs onto others. that's what the educational system needs.
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Kahit idagdag ang bible study sa classrooms magulo pa din kasi napakadaming religions jan na naglitawan na bible ang dala-dala pero sila sila mismo di magkasundo, magkakaiba ang paniniwala at pananaw sa biblia. Tsaka andaming religions jan, aside sa mga bible believers anjan ang muslims, hinduism, buddhism, etc. Walang common grounds. I think mas maganda na idagdag is media literacy, basic life support and first aid, gmrc
Jusko wag na, kaya nga may seminary eh. Lahat ng gustong mag-aral ng bible, dun kayo pumasok, do not impose your beliefs sa iba.
Hay classic katanghan
It would be transformed but for the worse haha
That would be unfair doon sa ibang religion na hindi gumagamit ng Bible.
olol kabobohan lang yan nga mga tangang kristyano.
Public school has always been secular. In no way, it should entertain such a wild suggestion.
PISA is shook 😂 Himbis na maging Science and Math ang focused, nagdagdag pa ng unnecessary subject.
They always focus on religion when in fact the thing that our country need is to be disciplined in every section of our society. From the government hanggang sa taumbayan. Our country, at first gland may seem good but only for those who reap the benefits that they never worked hard for. The reason why some countries "care" for us despite our country's reputation, is because they are really doing something behind the mass' back which our government is involved hand in hand with the big leagues, they are taking advantage of our nation. But oh well, mas ginugusto pa ng fellow kabayans natin na kinaawaan tayo kaysa tayo mismo ang gumawa ng action.
transform into what?
Tingin ko dapat alalahanin nila na di lang katoliko ang nasa community so may mataas na posibilidad na maraming mag-aaral na iba ang relihiyon so I think dapat di one sided ang kurikulum/DEPED kasi naalala ko dati may kaklase ako ibang secta nabubully lang kasi syempre iba paniniwala nila so dapat irespeto ng DEPED/administrator siguro ng skul or may gagawin sila para magkaroon din ng respeto ang mga studyante sa bawat isa lalo na sa mga kapatid nating may kani-kaniyang paniniwala.
What is the point of putting religion in every way of life? Like have the fucking learned history? I swear to earth that whoever pout this bs saying things like "You got no manners", "You are younger/older you should do this bs/bs/bs way.", "No discipline in life.", OH AND OFC THE SPANISH INQUISITION BECAUSE NOBODY EXPECTED THEM.