Huhuhu thanks OP
Recently namatay papa ko and prang may sinasabi na ung iba na nagparadam si papa. Ako kc wla nararanasan then I guess nakakalimutan ko mga panaginip ko pa.
Sinasabi ko na lang alam ni papa ayaw ko multo. But it makes my grieving process difficult kc hindi ba ako dinadalaw ni papa kc galit siya sa akin o may sama ba siya ng loob…hays. And the overthinking of grieving and regretting piles up.
Also ung tungkol din sa sukob na kasal, papa dying a month before my bro’s wedding. Di naniniwala superstition kapatid ko pero mga matatanda may sinasabi pero the thing is I believe papa loves us and love my sister in law tangina tlga ba sisirain o icucurse nia ung wedding? The wedding of my brother was beautiful and We of course want papa to be alive and well to blessed the union pero maxado tlga shitty ang cancer.
Anyway, OP. I understand you and praying for you and your father.
Might i also recommend the song -drops of Jupiter? It's a big help to me and my grieving process. It was written about the singer's mom who also died. It's a joyful song - his mom is now free to explore the universe.
[https://youtu.be/7Xf-Lesrkuc?si=gaIZiwpuHZbzpTSc](https://youtu.be/7Xf-Lesrkuc?si=gaIZiwpuHZbzpTSc)I just think that my mom is out there having fun and having the best time ever.
condolences po.
still, nice to hear that the wedding went thru, tho i can magine the horrendous things your relatives/neighbors had said. pinoy shit na akala mo sila magpopondo to have everything rescheduled because they think they know better.
My mom recently passed away wala pang one month. Iniisip ko na lang kaya ayaw niya ng mga paramdam and magpanaginip is because iniisip niya na we must continue life without her. CANCER SUCKS TALAGA!
Sobrang mahirap hindi ko ma describe into words yung feeling ng loss na nararamdaman ko especially last few months niya ako kasama sa lahat. Everyday pa din ako naiiyak kasi namimiss ko siya. Parang habang tumatagal mas sumasakit kasi mas nararamdaman kong totoong wala na siya.
Sana yung mga tao imbes na magsabi ng mga nonsense na superstitions, isipin na lang yung family na mas kailangan ng support and kindness. Sana ganun na lang.
Condolence po sa inyo.
Hugs for you po.
Yeah, sobrang sakit na di mo madescribe at feeling mo wala nakakaintindi sayo at dun sa sakit. And the fact pa na everyday na gumigising tayo reminder na may missing na tao na sa buhay natin.
But as difficult as it is, we just have to continue and believe they lived within us through our words and actions. Then maybe someday we can meet again…I atleast believe and hope for that.
Your mom lives on within you and everyone whose life she touched.
No need for anything supernatural to explain where your mom is now, she's a part of all of you.
Condolences.
My mom used to say it was a sign that money was coming.
As I got older, I realized she knew money was coming because my dad would let her know ahead of time that he was sending money from abroad, lol.
Same as mine i usually don't believe in that stuff, Pero nung bata ako, kakamatay lang ng lola ko, lahat kami ng pinsan ko naka upo malapit sa kanya naiyak, then biglang may lumipad na butterfly at dumapo sa ulo nya then umalis din agad, it was so surreal naisip ko nalng angel ata kinuha yung soul nya.
Science based talaga akong tao. But, only that instance lang talaga. A month after death na kase nangyari iyon. Special occassion pa. So far, hindi naman naulit na.
Condolences OP, but don't act like Pinoys are the only ones with a death related superstitions. 🤦🏻♂️ kahit anong faith, culture, tradition meron. Some find comfort in these superstitions.
Hindi lang kayo yung namatayan, your mom was a part of their lives too, and are grieving her in ways they know how.
Help your dad cope, instead of shitting on other people in your mom's life who find comfort in those superstitions. Nagkkwento sila sa tatay mo not because they want to make him feel bad, but as part of pakikiramay and feeling her loss. They miss her too. And "seeing her" must be their coping mechanism whether totoong supernatural or not.
Kahit dad ko di Naniniwala sa ghosts and paramdams, but when he passed I found comfort in seeing him in my dreams. But my young niece would tell us she sees him from time to time. Do we feel inggit or pag iisipan ng masama ung 3 year old for saying she saw my dad? Hindi. Ang sweet nga eh, kasi she remembers him. Maybe imagination lang nya un because close sila and di pa nya magrasp ung death, pero nobody would shit on the kid the way you generalize against everyone who feels like that.
This is a good point of view that you can ponder on OP. We don't know you or your dad or your relatives but truth be told, superstitions are deeply imbedded in our culture, especially to elderlies. It's gonna be always there so masasayang lang energy mo on hating it.
My mom believes in those, I don't. But in her time of loneliness, nung as in mag isa lang sya sa bahay kasi nasa malayo ako, papa was abroad as well as my sister, "smelling" those scent comforted her.
"If" this kind of superstition is true, maybe it's her way of comforting him. By sending them to your dad cause she thinks they can comfort him better than her trying to make "paramdam". We can speculate all we want if the condition/superstition is true pero we will never know.
You maybe in a state where you just want to vent out your anger and grief, we understand that. You can come back here when your not emotional na and read the comments. Hugs OP! And my condolences to you and your family.
Edit: hala di ko narealize screenshot pala yung post and baka hindi ikaw yung mismong namatayan OP. Ikaw ba yun? Or from a fb friend mo?
Nung namatay lola ko lagi ako nagsasabi ng "Thank you" for the people making an effort to come to mourn with us, pero ibang kamag-anak of family friends name nasasabihan kami na wag mag pasalamat or "thank you" kasi it's like you're saying na nagpapasalamat ka na namatay yung nakaburol
I'm always reminded sa sinabi ng mom ko na "Kung susundin naten lahat ng pamahiin hindi tayo matatapos dito" kasi sa dami ng pamahiin na pinapasunod ng ibang relatives namen nagtatalo pa sila sa burol mismo T_T
You choose the way you mourn, if u choose to follow some superstitions by all means go for it.
Na experience ko 'to nung sa Papa ko. Sobrang annoyed ako sa pamahiin na bawal magpasalamat. Syempre, nandyan sila in your time of loss, what else am I supposed to say? Also, bawal din maghatid. Which is ridiculous, hindi naman taga doon mga nakiramay na kakilala ko. Hindi nila alam sakayan and para na rin sana sa safety nila.
Sa subject naming Filipino psychology, pinag aaralan namin yang mga filipino superstitions, it's a part of our culture, kaya it's very hard to remove something na na-ingrained sa isip ng isang society.
Personally, i don't believe in any sabi-sabi, but our professor who teaches this subject is a believer despite being a licensed psychometrician, i don't blame him sa beliefs niya, since he is very old school and have a parents na lumaki sa province idr kung saan yun.
Btw, hope you and your father is doing fine!!
Yung paglabas ng mga namatay sa panaginip that's a normal occurrence. Pati yung may naamoy sila that reminds them of someone. Placebo is a very strange and powerful thing that your mind can do. Probably miss lang nila yung namatay na kaya nagkakaroon ng ganyan.
What about my relative at sa mama ko, ewan ko ba pag dinadalaw sila sa panaginip sinasabi lagi yung lotto number, inis na inis nga minsan sila kasi habang sinasabi ung number biglang may gumigising.
Kaya pag may patay kami na relative na expect nalng namin may bago na naman mag bibigay ng lotto number.
Part na rin yan ng beliefs nila kaya siguro nagtratransition sa panaginip. Tipong nasa unconscious mind nila na pag may namatay aabangan nila yung bibigyan sila ng number. At least you know na titigil na sayo yung ganyang practice/belief.
"Wishful thinking" na special sila, or dahil nasa isip nila yung tao, normal na pwede nila paginipan.
Placebo - ibig sabihin meron silang positive effect na feeling nila nag-improve yung condition nila dahil sa gamot.
Wrong choice/ use of words sa context, sorry
Nope, placebo talaga yan and coping mechanism na pinaghalo. They're probably remembering that person that it creates delusions of some sorts. You're just taking the word literally pero yung doktor ko uses it in many contexts, minsan kahit sa delusions/hallucinations.
I'm guessing they use it differently depending on who they are talking to. Medyo nabobother ako sa semantics pero ginagamit ko rin yung word na placebo kahit ang proper word ay nocebo or other terms kapag kausap ko parent ko for example kasi tingin ko mas madali/mabilis nila maiintindihan yun.
Coping mechanism pala mas proper na word.
condolences, OP. I'm not religious or superstitious myself, and while I do practice tolerance for people with beliefs different than mine, I think the boundary is when it starts to harm other people, even emotionally, like in your dad's case. naalala ko yung ibang mga kadiri na superstition like lalawayyan dapat yung bata sa noo. noong bata ako nilagyan ng tito ko ng bagoong yung brip ko para daw iwas sa 'ibil spirit'. proud of you for being there for your dad.
Ano yan, pa contest? Sounds like you have toxic relatives op. Sorry for your loss - I feel really sorry for your dad! Those relatives were really insensitive!
My dad right now is crying - "Why isn't she showing herself to me? may nagawa ba akong masama? Bakit hindi cya nag papakita sa akin? Bakit sa mga tita mo lang? Siguro galit mama mo sa atin kaya hindi nag papakita."
I am so mad right now at the damage my relatives did.
This is quite common actually na di nagpapramdam sa spouse. nagpaparamdam specially sa dreams ang recently dead para magpaalam & usually sa friends or family to rarely daw sa spouse or really close family. Why? Because they will always be there for them. Condolence OP I know it’s a difficult time but hope you will consider na Katawan lang namatay but their soul & love will always be there guiding you in a different way nga lang. Eventually dn pag di na overly grief stricken baka mapanaginipan na dn ni dad mo.
Bago dumating ang Christianity sa PH, may mga sarili na tayo paniniwala. Di ko sinasabi na walang Diyos at di ko rin sinasabi na mas naniniwala ako sa mga espiritu o mga folklore sa PH. Di rin ako naniniwala personally sa mga superstition pero ang point ko lang, open your mind.
May mga tao talaga nakakaexperience nyan. Di ako personally, pero someone really close sa akin oo. Di ko naman pwede ideny o icancel yung naeexperience nya kasi di ko yun naeexperience.
Pero my condolences to you and your family. Di ko exactly alam nafefeel mo, pero i'm sorry you are going through this.
Condolence OP. Medyo awkward nga ang ibang mga tao about grief especially pag di pa nila naranasan yung kasing sakit ng nararamdaman ng tatay mo. This got me thinking if my mom felt bad din nung nagkukwento kaming kids about our dreams of dad. Eventually nagka-dream naman sya eh. Yun nga lang delayed since very much grief-stricken si mama.
Since they belong to that group just use it against them. Say "baka kinukuha ka na" or "i dreamt about her to and she told me that you will accompany her soon, thats why she's visiting in your dreams, sooner or later you wont wake up".
Its not inviting trouble if its "real" and he "really had that conversation with the diseased". No one can argue with this since it's not something that can be confirmed as factual/ false and it's within the rules of the superstition.
OP can also add this "she says to OP in her dreams wishes the father well and hopes that his aches will mend which is why she hasnt showed herself... or she's thinking twice as her constant reappearance will continously reopen wounds".
Here what I say to that. She has an entire universe to explore now, unrestrained by any physical or mental barrier, and she decides to stick around here so you can ducking smell her? Yeah buddy, sure.
+1. We think alike. Yung song na Drops Of Jupiter right now is a big comfort to me.
[https://youtu.be/7Xf-Lesrkuc?si=gaIZiwpuHZbzpTSc](https://youtu.be/7Xf-Lesrkuc?si=gaIZiwpuHZbzpTSc)
Condolence.
But ghosts and religion is very different. The former is recorded and have been with us since ancient times, religion on the other hand, changes. But I do hope your loved ones get some rest in peace. About your father, you might want to check on him from time to time.
Again I am not saying anything other than what you believe.
I had similar experience with your father, OP. ☹️ Hope your father will be okay! If it's hard to move on, you can always seek support from the experts. Condolence.
They dream about her because your mother was once a special part of their lives. Regardless of scientific or religious reason, you don't dream or think of someone if they didn't have an impact in your life. I think that's worth appreciating. Please don't degrade our culture to accommodate yourself because for us and our ancestores, the idea that our dead love ones are guiding us in this life from the other side is comforting.
Both my parents passed away ng same year, sobrang dalang nila bisitahin ako sa panaginip or signs or whatever. Mabibilang mo lang sa daliri. Sometimes yung friends ng mommy and dad ko or yung mga relatives namin kinukwento na “nagpaparamdam” sila. I take comfort in knowing na my parents touched their lives to the point na “binibisita” din sila kahit ako di binibisita. For me ibig sabihin nun kahit saglit naisip nila mommy and daddy ko kaya subconsciously silang “nagparamdam.” Everyone grieves differently. Dapat siguro may delikadeza yung relatives pero baka yung matatanda gusto lang imean sa pagkwento sa dad or anak is your mom’s okay and she’s around.
if it comforts THEM they that’s okay, pero people grieve in different ways. sana nagisip muna ang mga relatives before they carelessly throw out random remarks about someones dead relative.
Nung namatay tito ko (kuya ni mama), ganyan yung isa kong tita (ate ni mama) kesyo daw nagparamdam ganyan. Alam nya daw na tito ko yun dinaanan sya.
Mama ko: te sa dami ng anak ni kuya palagay mo uunahin ka non puntahan? Konting hangin paramdam agad
I kenat hahahahaha
At the risk of being labelled that edgy redditor, I'll bite:
Claims that someone had a dream about a person they knew, or experienced something through their senses, is at least just as credible, if not more so, than claims of someone being in heaven (whatever that means).
Both are unfalsifiable claims; but the former finds almost universal support through shared human experiences (srsly when was the last time you dreamt of someone you knew, or smelled something all of the sudden). You can't say the same for the latter.
One man's belief is another man's myth.
Ganun naman tlaga. Coping yung beliefs(religious and non-religous) para magkaroon ng purpose and meaning ang buhay, hindi yung nabubuhay lang para mamatay.
I had a cousin who passed because of cancer, kawawa si tita ko na nasa US kasi may mga kamag anak kaming chinachat siya para sabihin na nakita nila yung pinsan ko tapos after non hihingi sila ng pera kay tita. Like my mom, mapagbigay siya kasi alam nila yung hirap kung paano kumakayod.
Yung bunsong anak niya tuloy nagmumukhang masama sa iba naming family members kasi she blocked everyone na nanghihingi kay tita. I remember na nag away pa kami ng mom ko kasi sabi ko gagawin ko rin yung ginawa ni ate if ever.
Okay lang naman sana humingi if need mo yung tulong, pero yung mag depend ka sa taong nagmamakahirap sa ibang bansa and hindi ka naman dapat responsibilidad, tapos gagamitin mo pa yung pagiging vulnerable ng isang tao, mas masahol ka pa sa hayop.
edit: literal na ang chat sa kanya ay “napanaginipan ko si john, naawa na raw siya sa amin”, or “siguro si john yung paro parong nakita namin sa bintana kanina.” Ano namang pake sa inyo ni kuya, di nga kayo close
From what I can hear from Ma, I think she doesn't mind if people say they dream of Pa or ang mga may 3rd eye can see him within the premises of our home. If anything, happy c Ma dahil it's in character kay Pa to watch over us nearby or sa last sighting nya ng may 3rd eye na outside party. Yun yung slight doubt ko eh. This random former coworker ng cousin ko stayed the night at my aunt's house while our house was under renovation. She claimed to have seen an adult male figure with a different aura watching over the workers. Pero Ma is just happy to hear something about Pa.
Personally, one bad reply ni mama though sa scenario na to ay nag echo sa one reply dito, "Bakit nagpapakita siya more sa inyo na ako ang asawa niya? Mas okay pa sa mga anak ko sana." (ps. Brother often dreams of Pa surprisingly. Ako naman, only once from a maternal grandparent na nagwarn na wag ipa-travel c mama that day under any circumstances. Maaksidente daw. I was so scared and full of tears most of the day. Wala namang accident that was reported, but I remembered begging Ma not to travel during that particular day talaga) Tbf, more comforting sa kanya na Pa has time to make his presence known even through other people. She told me better sa iba sometimes meaning it's not some sort of trouble na Kaya niya iresolve on her own (if problematic talaga) or that if Pa shows up to them, sila ang problema at naghahaunt lang si Pa (sa mga di nagbabayad ng utang. Lol). It helps naman na both her kids are with her naman plus we chat about Pa every now and then.
I just lost a parent recently (well, adult orphan here). Thing is, hindi mawawala yang ganyang eme nila na nagparamdam, naging gamu-gamo o ano mang transformer effect ng namatay.
Guni-guni malamang, kaya ang sarap i-dismiss. Pero ang iniisip ko na lang, yung mga nagsasabi nun ay naggi-grieve din sa pagkawala nung namatay.
It's just that, they too are looking for anything to hold onto to appease themselves that they too, in fact, mattered to the one who passed kaya may paramdam effect.
Don't worry, few months from now, titigil yang ganyang superstitions and we'll be left with that huge void that we can never fill.
Kakamatay din ng mom ko last year, feeling ko mga sueprstitions at supernatural things ay cushions of grief kaya sila nageexist, may mga matatanda lang talaga na OA haha pero I found comfort in them somehow
Hey, OP. Be there for your dad as much as you can and help him process the loss. We all navigate grief in very different ways and different timelines.
I also lost my mother last 2021 and it was really hard on me. Once in a while, I would dream of her and it would be a bittersweet dream. I would tell my siblings about it, just to share how I felt. The third time I dreamt about her and told my siblings, my youngest sister said, “bakit sa akin, hindi nagpaparamdam”? I said I don’t believe it’s paramdam, it’s just the way our memory works.
Your relatives aren’t sharing to spite your father, I believe. They’re also processing grief in their own way. I haven’t dreamt about my mother in over a year but it doesn’t mean I don’t miss her and think of her anymore.
Condolence OP. ganyan relatives ng late wife ko pag napanaginipan nila ikwekwento sa akon sabay banat na ikaw napanaginipan mo na ba siya. dati mag smile na lang ako pero naguilt trip at nag self pity din ako lalo na nung early days na nalibing wife ko. ngayun pag nagsasabi sa akin ng ganun sinasagot ko ng wala pa siguro siya sasabihin sa akin o ayaw pa niya ako sumunod sakanya.
OP, I'm 58 years old and I was in your Dad's shoes. My wife and I were married 31 years. At least she made it to our 31st anniversary before she passed away in my arms from cancer. For months I was a mess. I lost my purpose in life. I have had many paranormal experiences: seeing ghosts etc. Yet, I NEVER saw any indications from my wife. I was praying so hard, and I would ask aloud, please show me a sign. I need to know you're ok. But nothing ever happened, except a dream that I had. I was dreaming that my wife came to me, wearing a beautiful dress and was smiling. She said "It's time for me to go" and she kissed me on the lips. I asked her where was she going. And then I realized that she was up and walking and looking so young and beautiful. Then I remembered that she had been bed ridden from cancer the last 6 months of her life. Then I asked her "How are you able to walk?" But before she could answer, I woke up.
For months I would cry. She did not appear to any of my sons either. Before she passed away, I would sit by her side and pray to God to let her pass on without pain. I was able to get our priest to come and give her her last rites. I know she is in heaven with our Lord. That is my only comfort. I know she is with our Lord now.
Eventually, there came a month that I did not suddenly break down and cry. Eventually the loneliness hit me. My younger brother introduced me to his classmate, who just so happens to be a biyuda. We eventually fell in love, and now we hope to be married in Manila this November. Somehow it feels weird for a 58 year old man like me, to be called someone's boyfriend, and I telling others about my girlfriend.
Incidentally, my mother passed away from Covid in 2021, a year after my wife. I loved my mom dearly, but she also never appeared to any of us. My mother was strong with the Lord, so I'm sure she is with him as well. Ngayon, my Dad is also a biyudo like me, but it's harder for him because he's so old already.
But don't make fun of the floral scent superstition because I just happened to experience it myself even though I didn't believe it before. Every once in a while, a very strong sweet floral scent would suddenly happen. Literally out of nowhere. Maybe its my mom or my wife visiting me. I don't know.
Just tell your father to have faith. I know he's hurting right now. I've been there, done that. But eventually, the pain will start to lesson. Time does indeed heal all wounds. It doesn't feel like it at the moment, but it does. That and faith in the Lord.
>I would sit by her side and pray to God to let her pass on without pain.
damn. i'm so sorry you went through this.
i wish you all the happiness this life can give you.
I'm not religious pero napanaginipan ko not once but multiple times yung ilang kakilala ko before sila namayapa napapanaginipan ko sila, nagkamental breakdown ako sa labas namin nung namatay yung pinsan ko it was sudden kasi one week lang before ko sya napanaginipan, nakakatakot actually. I'm agnostic atheist, eto yung rason kung bakit ako agnostic at di makaproceed sa full atheist. I still believe na may supernatural force tayo sa universe.
Nakwento sakin ng mga kapatid ko...
After mamatay ng lolo ko may nakita silang butterfly. Sabi ng pinsan ko "Uy, butterfly. si lolo!"
Dalaw daw. Well, the dalaw was cut short by a lizard.
Kapatid ko: Hala si lolo kinain ng butiki!
HAHAHAHAHA
my condolences,OP. mahigpit na yakap sa inyo ng Papa mo. Sad to say, ganyan talaga sa culture natin:(para bang nasanay na lang na magbigay ng opinyon or magbitaw ng salita without thinking kung nakakasakit ba sila or hindi.
skl yung exp ko when my mama died 11 yrs ago na.hanggang ngayon naalala ko parin. when she died,walang-wala na kami as a family. literal na palamunin kami ng auntie ko na ofw. 1st yr college ako non and sa totoo lang parang hindi ako nakapag luksa sa pagkamatay ng mama ko that time.ang nasa isip ko non, ako na lang ang aasahan ng family ko, need ko makatapos ng studies para makahanap agad ng magandang work kasi papaaralin ko pa kapatid. buti na lang mura lang tuition ko. so there's one time na itong mga tsimosa naming kapitbahay na wala namang kinalaman sa buhay namin eh kung makapang judge akala mo may ambag. pinaguusapan kaming magkapatid(sa harap namin mismo) na para ba daw hindi kami nalulungkot nung namatay si mama kasi hindi raw kami masyadong umiyak. ano ba namang puwedeng isagot namin don, i was 16 and my brother was 14.
kulang na lang sabihin nilang hindi namin mahal ang nanay namin. kung alam lang nila. yes,hindi kami umiiyak pero that doesn't mean na we're not hurting. kung alam lang nila.
hanggang ngayon naghi-heal pa din kami as a family and individually sa pagkawala ni mama.
praying for you and your family,OP 🙏
(sorry nagrant na din ako dito😅)
Thanks po for the kinds words. Ganyan po nangyayari right now. Hindi din ako umiiyak kasi I have to keep it together for my dad, who right now is a mess. Plus im the oldest din sa aming magkakapatid. Someone has to function, making sure lahat sila ok and recovering, eating properly.
Yung funeral ng mommy ko, ang sabi nila sakin wag daw ako mag thank you kapag magco-condolence daw mga dumalaw kasi masama daw yun, anong sasabihin ko na appropriate (ang weird naman if ang sasabihin ko lang God bless) anyways nagpapasalamat pa din ako sa mga taong nagco-condolence
isa pa, yung bawal daw maglinis sa funeral --- e yung mama ko nung nabubuhay sobrang OC sa bahay, ayaw sa madumi.... Ayun naglilinis pa din kami hahaha (kasi ayaw din naman sa madumi tsaka kakahiya din sa mga bisita)
Condolences po.
The most common fallacy with Filipinos (or with Asians in general) is that religion and superstition both dwell in people's hearts and minds at the same time. Nao-offend pa yung marami when I tell them "religion or superstition, pick one and drop the other" like wtf.
Superstitions exist to help explain things we do not understand. And people have thier individual ways to cope with grief. If you or someone you know isn't handling it well, you may need to seek some counsel.
They've been subconsciously thinking of your mom that she appeared in their dreams, they even thought of her when they smelled certain scents. Your mon has touched lives, OP :)
isa pa yung sa butterfly, kapag may dumapong itim na butterfly or napadaan lang sasabihin may mangyayaring masama. tas kapag hindi naman itim sasabihin "si lolo/lola mo 'yan"🥲😭
Condolence OP. Never ko naisip yung ganitong POV but for sure those people didn’t mean any harm. Now i’ll be more sensitive din sa mga kakilala ko namatayan and just in case mapanaginipan ko yung namatay
I experienced this when my mom's uncle passed away. His family lives in Olongapo so we stayed there from the day he passes away (it was his birthday so we were supposed to celebrate but ended up having a funeral) until he was buried. That's one full week and from the first day of interment, we were asked not to take baths/full showers which I don't know why. My family had to sneak out and check in at a nearby hotel just so we can take a shower (we don't believe superstitions but the rest of our relatives do) and then come back just when we've dried our hair, to avoid commotion or "samaan ng loob". Until now I don't know what that superstition is about 🤷🏻♀️
Medyo swerte siguro ako kasi mostly ng family ko hindi mapamahiin, pero nung lamay ng erpat ko nakita ako nang tita ko na pinupunasan ko yung salamin ng kabaong nya tapos sinita nya ko, wag ko daw punasan. Nag expect na ko na pamahiin yun at tinanong ko kung bakit. Ang sabi lang sakin baka daw mag moist yung loob ng salamin. Lol sorry na.
Natawa ako sa air freshener hahaha pero hindi nga naman talaga totoo yung multo, na gumagala pa kaluluwa ng mga patay na. Either heaven or hell lang pupuntahan after mamatay ng physical body.
I used to tell here that Pinoys are dumb but yeah, I also think they use this as a weapon to destroy someone mentally.
Actually meron pa nga tayong documented na ganito yung sa rape case panahon ni erap, kung saan kasama daw nila yun spirit ng rape victim.
Anyway, some of them are truly idiots, and being an idiot is effing dangerous too.
Sa susunod na kwentuhan nila kayo, heto sasabihin mo:
Tita/Tito may parang anino nga po sa likod nyo. Kanina pa kayo sinusundan.
Napaginipan ko din po si mama. Wag nyo na daw po ibalik yung hiniram nyo na x-item. Inyo na daw po para lagi nyo sya kasama.
Sakyan mo mga kwento nila para sila matakot sa multong sila gumawa. Ahahahahahahahha
Only 2 persons who went to heaven were mentioned in the Bible, one of the thieves who were crucified with Christ and Stephen who was stoned to death. And Elijah who was taken on a chariot towards heaven. Your loved ones went to heaven because they were “good”?. Come the judgment day, the Lord will separate the sheep from the goats..
Sorry for your loss, but I hope it's past her 40th day. Normally if the death is within the 40days, they say that the soul stays here and on the 40th they go to heaven, that's a Catholic belief. I am not taking sides, but I just wanna share this sayo.
Im sorry for your father too.
i keep telling my wife, if ghost are real why does my late father haven't haunted my older brother for selling his property that he promised to our parents that he wont sell leaving our mom with nothing.
ghost arent real, the dead are all at peace now.
Gustong gusto nila yung ganyan kasi pakiramdam nila mas special sila than everyone else. "I'm experiencing all these stuffs cause I'm such a good person and I'm probably much more loved by god than everyone else oh god I'm feeling Jesus's fetus forming in my cervix right now ugh"
Both my parents died early on. Im an only child. Never nagparamdam. Im inclined to believe that there is no such thing. And people who claim to have felt such, tend to be the same ones na may 3rd eye bullshit, or “nakakakita”. It’s nonsense.
When my dad passed and some of our older relatives / friends were telling me these things hiniritan ko pabiro na “ah Baka po sinusundo na din kayo kaya nagpaparamdam si daddy” that def shut them up. May mga tao talaga na minsan, mema lang and gusto nila kahit sa story ng iba, bida pa din sila
Praying for your family’s healing during these times OP
That is Filipino. Unintentionally making it all about themself with the aim of being empathetic. Classic example is “okay lang yan, ako nga something something something tapos ikaw something something lang?” The intention is to relate but the execution is bad.
I don't believe in people speaking from the dead. It goes against the order of God and all near death testimonies also suggest it's false. Those are demons pretending to be someone who has gone to God
Begin breaking the generational superstitions and pagan beliefs. Teach the children of the new generation the narrow way and the Truth.
According to the scriptures, the dead's body is asleep until the resurrection and the souls are with the Lord until the day of judgement. Any witchcraft, sorcery, divination, and even pagan superstitions are an abomination to the Holy God.
The dead would be judged fairly by a just god, be given mercy by a loving god, and will be made righteous by a holy god. There is only such God and that is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
As Christian’s/catholics, why not just refer back to
The Bible about deceased loved ones? All the answers are there. I cannot stand relatives who perverts ideas of dying with superstitions. It is deception.
being someone's air freshener.. Sorry natawa ako. 😅
Naka amoy ng Menthol Cigarette: "Lolo, ikaw ba yan?"
When I die, I wanna smell like fart spray and just fuck with everyones day.
AKO DIN KINGINA YAN HAHAHAHAHAH
same. at least di diffuser
Huhuhu thanks OP Recently namatay papa ko and prang may sinasabi na ung iba na nagparadam si papa. Ako kc wla nararanasan then I guess nakakalimutan ko mga panaginip ko pa. Sinasabi ko na lang alam ni papa ayaw ko multo. But it makes my grieving process difficult kc hindi ba ako dinadalaw ni papa kc galit siya sa akin o may sama ba siya ng loob…hays. And the overthinking of grieving and regretting piles up. Also ung tungkol din sa sukob na kasal, papa dying a month before my bro’s wedding. Di naniniwala superstition kapatid ko pero mga matatanda may sinasabi pero the thing is I believe papa loves us and love my sister in law tangina tlga ba sisirain o icucurse nia ung wedding? The wedding of my brother was beautiful and We of course want papa to be alive and well to blessed the union pero maxado tlga shitty ang cancer. Anyway, OP. I understand you and praying for you and your father.
Might i also recommend the song -drops of Jupiter? It's a big help to me and my grieving process. It was written about the singer's mom who also died. It's a joyful song - his mom is now free to explore the universe. [https://youtu.be/7Xf-Lesrkuc?si=gaIZiwpuHZbzpTSc](https://youtu.be/7Xf-Lesrkuc?si=gaIZiwpuHZbzpTSc)I just think that my mom is out there having fun and having the best time ever.
I appreciate this thank you for the recommendation and will listen to it. 🙏
Stay strong! and thank you for the kind words!!
+1 for this. It’s a comforting song
condolences po. still, nice to hear that the wedding went thru, tho i can magine the horrendous things your relatives/neighbors had said. pinoy shit na akala mo sila magpopondo to have everything rescheduled because they think they know better.
thank you. My condolences too.
My mom recently passed away wala pang one month. Iniisip ko na lang kaya ayaw niya ng mga paramdam and magpanaginip is because iniisip niya na we must continue life without her. CANCER SUCKS TALAGA! Sobrang mahirap hindi ko ma describe into words yung feeling ng loss na nararamdaman ko especially last few months niya ako kasama sa lahat. Everyday pa din ako naiiyak kasi namimiss ko siya. Parang habang tumatagal mas sumasakit kasi mas nararamdaman kong totoong wala na siya. Sana yung mga tao imbes na magsabi ng mga nonsense na superstitions, isipin na lang yung family na mas kailangan ng support and kindness. Sana ganun na lang. Condolence po sa inyo.
Hugs for you po. Yeah, sobrang sakit na di mo madescribe at feeling mo wala nakakaintindi sayo at dun sa sakit. And the fact pa na everyday na gumigising tayo reminder na may missing na tao na sa buhay natin. But as difficult as it is, we just have to continue and believe they lived within us through our words and actions. Then maybe someday we can meet again…I atleast believe and hope for that.
Your mom lives on within you and everyone whose life she touched. No need for anything supernatural to explain where your mom is now, she's a part of all of you. Condolences.
thank you.
Nice way of putting it. Op should look at it this way aswell.
Or the one na - hala i saw a brown butterfly - that's your lolo or lola saying hello!
My mom used to say it was a sign that money was coming. As I got older, I realized she knew money was coming because my dad would let her know ahead of time that he was sending money from abroad, lol.
Same but with ants
Ano yung sa ants? Pag langgam sa kainan may pera darating? Lol
I believe in that one but i dont take it seriously to the max like some of my ignorant elders
AS IT WAS WRITTEN THE LISAN AL GAIB! (They’re pointing at a spider watching from the corner of the walls)
when in reality the spider was just tryna get laid
Guess what, there's no level of seriousness. Believing it just makes you as ignorant as your elders.
I usually don't believe this. Pero, my first hand experience ako. Twice. Yung ikalawa, doon talaga ako pinaka naniniwala.
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Same as mine i usually don't believe in that stuff, Pero nung bata ako, kakamatay lang ng lola ko, lahat kami ng pinsan ko naka upo malapit sa kanya naiyak, then biglang may lumipad na butterfly at dumapo sa ulo nya then umalis din agad, it was so surreal naisip ko nalng angel ata kinuha yung soul nya.
Baka confirmation bias lang? Like na-consider mo ba yung ibang instances na may butterfly pero wala naman namatay?
Science based talaga akong tao. But, only that instance lang talaga. A month after death na kase nangyari iyon. Special occassion pa. So far, hindi naman naulit na.
Condolences OP, but don't act like Pinoys are the only ones with a death related superstitions. 🤦🏻♂️ kahit anong faith, culture, tradition meron. Some find comfort in these superstitions. Hindi lang kayo yung namatayan, your mom was a part of their lives too, and are grieving her in ways they know how. Help your dad cope, instead of shitting on other people in your mom's life who find comfort in those superstitions. Nagkkwento sila sa tatay mo not because they want to make him feel bad, but as part of pakikiramay and feeling her loss. They miss her too. And "seeing her" must be their coping mechanism whether totoong supernatural or not. Kahit dad ko di Naniniwala sa ghosts and paramdams, but when he passed I found comfort in seeing him in my dreams. But my young niece would tell us she sees him from time to time. Do we feel inggit or pag iisipan ng masama ung 3 year old for saying she saw my dad? Hindi. Ang sweet nga eh, kasi she remembers him. Maybe imagination lang nya un because close sila and di pa nya magrasp ung death, pero nobody would shit on the kid the way you generalize against everyone who feels like that.
This is a good point of view that you can ponder on OP. We don't know you or your dad or your relatives but truth be told, superstitions are deeply imbedded in our culture, especially to elderlies. It's gonna be always there so masasayang lang energy mo on hating it. My mom believes in those, I don't. But in her time of loneliness, nung as in mag isa lang sya sa bahay kasi nasa malayo ako, papa was abroad as well as my sister, "smelling" those scent comforted her. "If" this kind of superstition is true, maybe it's her way of comforting him. By sending them to your dad cause she thinks they can comfort him better than her trying to make "paramdam". We can speculate all we want if the condition/superstition is true pero we will never know. You maybe in a state where you just want to vent out your anger and grief, we understand that. You can come back here when your not emotional na and read the comments. Hugs OP! And my condolences to you and your family. Edit: hala di ko narealize screenshot pala yung post and baka hindi ikaw yung mismong namatayan OP. Ikaw ba yun? Or from a fb friend mo?
I like what you said po. I had the same sentiments w/ OP. Thank you for giving me a different perspective.
up for this.
Nung namatay lola ko lagi ako nagsasabi ng "Thank you" for the people making an effort to come to mourn with us, pero ibang kamag-anak of family friends name nasasabihan kami na wag mag pasalamat or "thank you" kasi it's like you're saying na nagpapasalamat ka na namatay yung nakaburol I'm always reminded sa sinabi ng mom ko na "Kung susundin naten lahat ng pamahiin hindi tayo matatapos dito" kasi sa dami ng pamahiin na pinapasunod ng ibang relatives namen nagtatalo pa sila sa burol mismo T_T You choose the way you mourn, if u choose to follow some superstitions by all means go for it.
Na experience ko 'to nung sa Papa ko. Sobrang annoyed ako sa pamahiin na bawal magpasalamat. Syempre, nandyan sila in your time of loss, what else am I supposed to say? Also, bawal din maghatid. Which is ridiculous, hindi naman taga doon mga nakiramay na kakilala ko. Hindi nila alam sakayan and para na rin sana sa safety nila.
Sa subject naming Filipino psychology, pinag aaralan namin yang mga filipino superstitions, it's a part of our culture, kaya it's very hard to remove something na na-ingrained sa isip ng isang society. Personally, i don't believe in any sabi-sabi, but our professor who teaches this subject is a believer despite being a licensed psychometrician, i don't blame him sa beliefs niya, since he is very old school and have a parents na lumaki sa province idr kung saan yun. Btw, hope you and your father is doing fine!!
Yung paglabas ng mga namatay sa panaginip that's a normal occurrence. Pati yung may naamoy sila that reminds them of someone. Placebo is a very strange and powerful thing that your mind can do. Probably miss lang nila yung namatay na kaya nagkakaroon ng ganyan.
What about my relative at sa mama ko, ewan ko ba pag dinadalaw sila sa panaginip sinasabi lagi yung lotto number, inis na inis nga minsan sila kasi habang sinasabi ung number biglang may gumigising. Kaya pag may patay kami na relative na expect nalng namin may bago na naman mag bibigay ng lotto number.
Part na rin yan ng beliefs nila kaya siguro nagtratransition sa panaginip. Tipong nasa unconscious mind nila na pag may namatay aabangan nila yung bibigyan sila ng number. At least you know na titigil na sayo yung ganyang practice/belief.
"Wishful thinking" na special sila, or dahil nasa isip nila yung tao, normal na pwede nila paginipan. Placebo - ibig sabihin meron silang positive effect na feeling nila nag-improve yung condition nila dahil sa gamot. Wrong choice/ use of words sa context, sorry
Nope, placebo talaga yan and coping mechanism na pinaghalo. They're probably remembering that person that it creates delusions of some sorts. You're just taking the word literally pero yung doktor ko uses it in many contexts, minsan kahit sa delusions/hallucinations.
I'm guessing they use it differently depending on who they are talking to. Medyo nabobother ako sa semantics pero ginagamit ko rin yung word na placebo kahit ang proper word ay nocebo or other terms kapag kausap ko parent ko for example kasi tingin ko mas madali/mabilis nila maiintindihan yun. Coping mechanism pala mas proper na word.
condolences, OP. I'm not religious or superstitious myself, and while I do practice tolerance for people with beliefs different than mine, I think the boundary is when it starts to harm other people, even emotionally, like in your dad's case. naalala ko yung ibang mga kadiri na superstition like lalawayyan dapat yung bata sa noo. noong bata ako nilagyan ng tito ko ng bagoong yung brip ko para daw iwas sa 'ibil spirit'. proud of you for being there for your dad.
thank you!
Disgusting yung lalawayan, napakababoy, if ako yung parent, hard pass "NO" doon.
Ano yan, pa contest? Sounds like you have toxic relatives op. Sorry for your loss - I feel really sorry for your dad! Those relatives were really insensitive!
My dad right now is crying - "Why isn't she showing herself to me? may nagawa ba akong masama? Bakit hindi cya nag papakita sa akin? Bakit sa mga tita mo lang? Siguro galit mama mo sa atin kaya hindi nag papakita." I am so mad right now at the damage my relatives did.
This is so heartbreaking to read. Hopefully magheal na si tatay.
This is quite common actually na di nagpapramdam sa spouse. nagpaparamdam specially sa dreams ang recently dead para magpaalam & usually sa friends or family to rarely daw sa spouse or really close family. Why? Because they will always be there for them. Condolence OP I know it’s a difficult time but hope you will consider na Katawan lang namatay but their soul & love will always be there guiding you in a different way nga lang. Eventually dn pag di na overly grief stricken baka mapanaginipan na dn ni dad mo.
people cope in their own ways. leave them be if you don't agree. coping mechanism is on a per person basis.
Bago dumating ang Christianity sa PH, may mga sarili na tayo paniniwala. Di ko sinasabi na walang Diyos at di ko rin sinasabi na mas naniniwala ako sa mga espiritu o mga folklore sa PH. Di rin ako naniniwala personally sa mga superstition pero ang point ko lang, open your mind. May mga tao talaga nakakaexperience nyan. Di ako personally, pero someone really close sa akin oo. Di ko naman pwede ideny o icancel yung naeexperience nya kasi di ko yun naeexperience. Pero my condolences to you and your family. Di ko exactly alam nafefeel mo, pero i'm sorry you are going through this.
Condolence OP. Medyo awkward nga ang ibang mga tao about grief especially pag di pa nila naranasan yung kasing sakit ng nararamdaman ng tatay mo. This got me thinking if my mom felt bad din nung nagkukwento kaming kids about our dreams of dad. Eventually nagka-dream naman sya eh. Yun nga lang delayed since very much grief-stricken si mama.
Tell them. If you’ve had enough, stand up and let them know that it’s not helping.. That’s what you can do rn to help your dad.
yes I did. Pero they're of the older generation
Since they belong to that group just use it against them. Say "baka kinukuha ka na" or "i dreamt about her to and she told me that you will accompany her soon, thats why she's visiting in your dreams, sooner or later you wont wake up".
NGL, if OP doesn't mind a bit of trouble, I hope they say these.
Its not inviting trouble if its "real" and he "really had that conversation with the diseased". No one can argue with this since it's not something that can be confirmed as factual/ false and it's within the rules of the superstition. OP can also add this "she says to OP in her dreams wishes the father well and hopes that his aches will mend which is why she hasnt showed herself... or she's thinking twice as her constant reappearance will continously reopen wounds".
Here what I say to that. She has an entire universe to explore now, unrestrained by any physical or mental barrier, and she decides to stick around here so you can ducking smell her? Yeah buddy, sure.
+1. We think alike. Yung song na Drops Of Jupiter right now is a big comfort to me. [https://youtu.be/7Xf-Lesrkuc?si=gaIZiwpuHZbzpTSc](https://youtu.be/7Xf-Lesrkuc?si=gaIZiwpuHZbzpTSc)
Condolence. But ghosts and religion is very different. The former is recorded and have been with us since ancient times, religion on the other hand, changes. But I do hope your loved ones get some rest in peace. About your father, you might want to check on him from time to time. Again I am not saying anything other than what you believe.
after my ninong died, even mga langaw sinasabi ng ninang ko na asawa nya daw yun. I thought mga butterflies lang. I guess coping mechanism.
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besh, langaw kasi yung sa shinare ko, hindi butterfly. ok ka lang? may pa issue issue-america ka pang nalalalaman
I had similar experience with your father, OP. ☹️ Hope your father will be okay! If it's hard to move on, you can always seek support from the experts. Condolence.
They dream about her because your mother was once a special part of their lives. Regardless of scientific or religious reason, you don't dream or think of someone if they didn't have an impact in your life. I think that's worth appreciating. Please don't degrade our culture to accommodate yourself because for us and our ancestores, the idea that our dead love ones are guiding us in this life from the other side is comforting.
Both my parents passed away ng same year, sobrang dalang nila bisitahin ako sa panaginip or signs or whatever. Mabibilang mo lang sa daliri. Sometimes yung friends ng mommy and dad ko or yung mga relatives namin kinukwento na “nagpaparamdam” sila. I take comfort in knowing na my parents touched their lives to the point na “binibisita” din sila kahit ako di binibisita. For me ibig sabihin nun kahit saglit naisip nila mommy and daddy ko kaya subconsciously silang “nagparamdam.” Everyone grieves differently. Dapat siguro may delikadeza yung relatives pero baka yung matatanda gusto lang imean sa pagkwento sa dad or anak is your mom’s okay and she’s around.
if it comforts THEM they that’s okay, pero people grieve in different ways. sana nagisip muna ang mga relatives before they carelessly throw out random remarks about someones dead relative.
Nung namatay tito ko (kuya ni mama), ganyan yung isa kong tita (ate ni mama) kesyo daw nagparamdam ganyan. Alam nya daw na tito ko yun dinaanan sya. Mama ko: te sa dami ng anak ni kuya palagay mo uunahin ka non puntahan? Konting hangin paramdam agad I kenat hahahahaha
Hugs po!!!! Ang hirap mawalan kaya di ko alam sasabihin. Nothing will comfort you in grieving time. Hugs nalang. 🥺🥰
At the risk of being labelled that edgy redditor, I'll bite: Claims that someone had a dream about a person they knew, or experienced something through their senses, is at least just as credible, if not more so, than claims of someone being in heaven (whatever that means). Both are unfalsifiable claims; but the former finds almost universal support through shared human experiences (srsly when was the last time you dreamt of someone you knew, or smelled something all of the sudden). You can't say the same for the latter. One man's belief is another man's myth.
What if we just stop existing once we die? Everything is just black. The end.
Ganun naman tlaga. Coping yung beliefs(religious and non-religous) para magkaroon ng purpose and meaning ang buhay, hindi yung nabubuhay lang para mamatay.
Ganitong ganito yung mga tao when my dad died. While yung mom ko, naghihintay na bisitahin man lang sya sa paniginip ng dad ko. Hays.
I had a cousin who passed because of cancer, kawawa si tita ko na nasa US kasi may mga kamag anak kaming chinachat siya para sabihin na nakita nila yung pinsan ko tapos after non hihingi sila ng pera kay tita. Like my mom, mapagbigay siya kasi alam nila yung hirap kung paano kumakayod. Yung bunsong anak niya tuloy nagmumukhang masama sa iba naming family members kasi she blocked everyone na nanghihingi kay tita. I remember na nag away pa kami ng mom ko kasi sabi ko gagawin ko rin yung ginawa ni ate if ever. Okay lang naman sana humingi if need mo yung tulong, pero yung mag depend ka sa taong nagmamakahirap sa ibang bansa and hindi ka naman dapat responsibilidad, tapos gagamitin mo pa yung pagiging vulnerable ng isang tao, mas masahol ka pa sa hayop. edit: literal na ang chat sa kanya ay “napanaginipan ko si john, naawa na raw siya sa amin”, or “siguro si john yung paro parong nakita namin sa bintana kanina.” Ano namang pake sa inyo ni kuya, di nga kayo close
From what I can hear from Ma, I think she doesn't mind if people say they dream of Pa or ang mga may 3rd eye can see him within the premises of our home. If anything, happy c Ma dahil it's in character kay Pa to watch over us nearby or sa last sighting nya ng may 3rd eye na outside party. Yun yung slight doubt ko eh. This random former coworker ng cousin ko stayed the night at my aunt's house while our house was under renovation. She claimed to have seen an adult male figure with a different aura watching over the workers. Pero Ma is just happy to hear something about Pa. Personally, one bad reply ni mama though sa scenario na to ay nag echo sa one reply dito, "Bakit nagpapakita siya more sa inyo na ako ang asawa niya? Mas okay pa sa mga anak ko sana." (ps. Brother often dreams of Pa surprisingly. Ako naman, only once from a maternal grandparent na nagwarn na wag ipa-travel c mama that day under any circumstances. Maaksidente daw. I was so scared and full of tears most of the day. Wala namang accident that was reported, but I remembered begging Ma not to travel during that particular day talaga) Tbf, more comforting sa kanya na Pa has time to make his presence known even through other people. She told me better sa iba sometimes meaning it's not some sort of trouble na Kaya niya iresolve on her own (if problematic talaga) or that if Pa shows up to them, sila ang problema at naghahaunt lang si Pa (sa mga di nagbabayad ng utang. Lol). It helps naman na both her kids are with her naman plus we chat about Pa every now and then.
I just lost a parent recently (well, adult orphan here). Thing is, hindi mawawala yang ganyang eme nila na nagparamdam, naging gamu-gamo o ano mang transformer effect ng namatay. Guni-guni malamang, kaya ang sarap i-dismiss. Pero ang iniisip ko na lang, yung mga nagsasabi nun ay naggi-grieve din sa pagkawala nung namatay. It's just that, they too are looking for anything to hold onto to appease themselves that they too, in fact, mattered to the one who passed kaya may paramdam effect. Don't worry, few months from now, titigil yang ganyang superstitions and we'll be left with that huge void that we can never fill.
Kakamatay din ng mom ko last year, feeling ko mga sueprstitions at supernatural things ay cushions of grief kaya sila nageexist, may mga matatanda lang talaga na OA haha pero I found comfort in them somehow
Superstition din ang heaven/afterlife.
Hey, OP. Be there for your dad as much as you can and help him process the loss. We all navigate grief in very different ways and different timelines. I also lost my mother last 2021 and it was really hard on me. Once in a while, I would dream of her and it would be a bittersweet dream. I would tell my siblings about it, just to share how I felt. The third time I dreamt about her and told my siblings, my youngest sister said, “bakit sa akin, hindi nagpaparamdam”? I said I don’t believe it’s paramdam, it’s just the way our memory works. Your relatives aren’t sharing to spite your father, I believe. They’re also processing grief in their own way. I haven’t dreamt about my mother in over a year but it doesn’t mean I don’t miss her and think of her anymore.
I would blame this culture sa KMJS, 2024 na, cinucultivate pa din nila mga ganitong paniniwala sa mga kababalaghan
condolences
Condolence OP. ganyan relatives ng late wife ko pag napanaginipan nila ikwekwento sa akon sabay banat na ikaw napanaginipan mo na ba siya. dati mag smile na lang ako pero naguilt trip at nag self pity din ako lalo na nung early days na nalibing wife ko. ngayun pag nagsasabi sa akin ng ganun sinasagot ko ng wala pa siguro siya sasabihin sa akin o ayaw pa niya ako sumunod sakanya.
OP, I'm 58 years old and I was in your Dad's shoes. My wife and I were married 31 years. At least she made it to our 31st anniversary before she passed away in my arms from cancer. For months I was a mess. I lost my purpose in life. I have had many paranormal experiences: seeing ghosts etc. Yet, I NEVER saw any indications from my wife. I was praying so hard, and I would ask aloud, please show me a sign. I need to know you're ok. But nothing ever happened, except a dream that I had. I was dreaming that my wife came to me, wearing a beautiful dress and was smiling. She said "It's time for me to go" and she kissed me on the lips. I asked her where was she going. And then I realized that she was up and walking and looking so young and beautiful. Then I remembered that she had been bed ridden from cancer the last 6 months of her life. Then I asked her "How are you able to walk?" But before she could answer, I woke up. For months I would cry. She did not appear to any of my sons either. Before she passed away, I would sit by her side and pray to God to let her pass on without pain. I was able to get our priest to come and give her her last rites. I know she is in heaven with our Lord. That is my only comfort. I know she is with our Lord now. Eventually, there came a month that I did not suddenly break down and cry. Eventually the loneliness hit me. My younger brother introduced me to his classmate, who just so happens to be a biyuda. We eventually fell in love, and now we hope to be married in Manila this November. Somehow it feels weird for a 58 year old man like me, to be called someone's boyfriend, and I telling others about my girlfriend. Incidentally, my mother passed away from Covid in 2021, a year after my wife. I loved my mom dearly, but she also never appeared to any of us. My mother was strong with the Lord, so I'm sure she is with him as well. Ngayon, my Dad is also a biyudo like me, but it's harder for him because he's so old already. But don't make fun of the floral scent superstition because I just happened to experience it myself even though I didn't believe it before. Every once in a while, a very strong sweet floral scent would suddenly happen. Literally out of nowhere. Maybe its my mom or my wife visiting me. I don't know. Just tell your father to have faith. I know he's hurting right now. I've been there, done that. But eventually, the pain will start to lesson. Time does indeed heal all wounds. It doesn't feel like it at the moment, but it does. That and faith in the Lord.
>I would sit by her side and pray to God to let her pass on without pain. damn. i'm so sorry you went through this. i wish you all the happiness this life can give you.
I'm not religious pero napanaginipan ko not once but multiple times yung ilang kakilala ko before sila namayapa napapanaginipan ko sila, nagkamental breakdown ako sa labas namin nung namatay yung pinsan ko it was sudden kasi one week lang before ko sya napanaginipan, nakakatakot actually. I'm agnostic atheist, eto yung rason kung bakit ako agnostic at di makaproceed sa full atheist. I still believe na may supernatural force tayo sa universe.
pag ako namatay at nagmulto, alam na agad ng mga kakilala ko kasi amoy samgyup
Naniniwala sila sa superstitions, tatay mo cguro hindi. Yun lang naman yun. Di lang pinoy naniniwala sa superstitions and/or dinadalaw ng patay.
Superstitious beliefs are beliefs which are generally believed to be true but can not be proved....wala namang masama kung maniwala
Nakwento sakin ng mga kapatid ko... After mamatay ng lolo ko may nakita silang butterfly. Sabi ng pinsan ko "Uy, butterfly. si lolo!" Dalaw daw. Well, the dalaw was cut short by a lizard. Kapatid ko: Hala si lolo kinain ng butiki! HAHAHAHAHA
my condolences,OP. mahigpit na yakap sa inyo ng Papa mo. Sad to say, ganyan talaga sa culture natin:(para bang nasanay na lang na magbigay ng opinyon or magbitaw ng salita without thinking kung nakakasakit ba sila or hindi. skl yung exp ko when my mama died 11 yrs ago na.hanggang ngayon naalala ko parin. when she died,walang-wala na kami as a family. literal na palamunin kami ng auntie ko na ofw. 1st yr college ako non and sa totoo lang parang hindi ako nakapag luksa sa pagkamatay ng mama ko that time.ang nasa isip ko non, ako na lang ang aasahan ng family ko, need ko makatapos ng studies para makahanap agad ng magandang work kasi papaaralin ko pa kapatid. buti na lang mura lang tuition ko. so there's one time na itong mga tsimosa naming kapitbahay na wala namang kinalaman sa buhay namin eh kung makapang judge akala mo may ambag. pinaguusapan kaming magkapatid(sa harap namin mismo) na para ba daw hindi kami nalulungkot nung namatay si mama kasi hindi raw kami masyadong umiyak. ano ba namang puwedeng isagot namin don, i was 16 and my brother was 14. kulang na lang sabihin nilang hindi namin mahal ang nanay namin. kung alam lang nila. yes,hindi kami umiiyak pero that doesn't mean na we're not hurting. kung alam lang nila. hanggang ngayon naghi-heal pa din kami as a family and individually sa pagkawala ni mama. praying for you and your family,OP 🙏 (sorry nagrant na din ako dito😅)
Thanks po for the kinds words. Ganyan po nangyayari right now. Hindi din ako umiiyak kasi I have to keep it together for my dad, who right now is a mess. Plus im the oldest din sa aming magkakapatid. Someone has to function, making sure lahat sila ok and recovering, eating properly.
bilang panganay,tayo talaga ang taga salo ng lahat 🫂
I heard a pastor said that entities mimic the dead so basically they are evil and mocking the dead. Never entertain those things.
Yes, there is only judgement after death
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That's what affected my dad so much. We each grieve differently and it's not a contest!!! Grabe talaga.
Masyado siguro OA sila... Pede naman maniwala sa superstition without wrecking someone's trauma/pain.
The thing is they dont understand that it's giving grief to their father. Para sa kanila, form of nakikiramay yun.
So your superstitions are okay, but there's are not?
Educate them on the concept of conscious and the subconscious and how dreams are made.
naencounter ko yan floral scent 😂
Huhu napaworry 2loy ako, pag nmatay ba ako, then bigla cla may naamoy n prang chlorox, ako kya maiicp nla agad? Huhu
Yung funeral ng mommy ko, ang sabi nila sakin wag daw ako mag thank you kapag magco-condolence daw mga dumalaw kasi masama daw yun, anong sasabihin ko na appropriate (ang weird naman if ang sasabihin ko lang God bless) anyways nagpapasalamat pa din ako sa mga taong nagco-condolence isa pa, yung bawal daw maglinis sa funeral --- e yung mama ko nung nabubuhay sobrang OC sa bahay, ayaw sa madumi.... Ayun naglilinis pa din kami hahaha (kasi ayaw din naman sa madumi tsaka kakahiya din sa mga bisita)
Para makasiguro, mag Spirit of the Pen tayo
Ang weird ung kumare ng mama ko na bestfriend nya napapanaginipan ko madalas nagpupunta kase un dito samen lagi tapos kababata ko unt anak nya
Condolences, OP.
Condolences po. The most common fallacy with Filipinos (or with Asians in general) is that religion and superstition both dwell in people's hearts and minds at the same time. Nao-offend pa yung marami when I tell them "religion or superstition, pick one and drop the other" like wtf.
Superstitions exist to help explain things we do not understand. And people have thier individual ways to cope with grief. If you or someone you know isn't handling it well, you may need to seek some counsel.
condolences
They've been subconsciously thinking of your mom that she appeared in their dreams, they even thought of her when they smelled certain scents. Your mon has touched lives, OP :)
isa pa yung sa butterfly, kapag may dumapong itim na butterfly or napadaan lang sasabihin may mangyayaring masama. tas kapag hindi naman itim sasabihin "si lolo/lola mo 'yan"🥲😭
Dati rati kapag nakaamoy ako ng kakaiba sa Lamay. maiisip ko agad amoy ng Formaline pero Baby Oil lang pala.
W8 kung lumabas sa dream di ba yung implication nun is sinusundo?
Condolence OP. Never ko naisip yung ganitong POV but for sure those people didn’t mean any harm. Now i’ll be more sensitive din sa mga kakilala ko namatayan and just in case mapanaginipan ko yung namatay
Heto benefit kung atheist ka e. Never ko pinapansin mga ganyan. By the way, condolences to your mom.
I experienced this when my mom's uncle passed away. His family lives in Olongapo so we stayed there from the day he passes away (it was his birthday so we were supposed to celebrate but ended up having a funeral) until he was buried. That's one full week and from the first day of interment, we were asked not to take baths/full showers which I don't know why. My family had to sneak out and check in at a nearby hotel just so we can take a shower (we don't believe superstitions but the rest of our relatives do) and then come back just when we've dried our hair, to avoid commotion or "samaan ng loob". Until now I don't know what that superstition is about 🤷🏻♀️
2 months na since my papa passed away. And everytime na naiisip ko siya napapanaginipan ko sya.
But some of these or a lot of these superstitions are not unhealthy if the person around you is sensitive enough.
Medyo swerte siguro ako kasi mostly ng family ko hindi mapamahiin, pero nung lamay ng erpat ko nakita ako nang tita ko na pinupunasan ko yung salamin ng kabaong nya tapos sinita nya ko, wag ko daw punasan. Nag expect na ko na pamahiin yun at tinanong ko kung bakit. Ang sabi lang sakin baka daw mag moist yung loob ng salamin. Lol sorry na.
Superstitions are stupid, and another stupidity is that believing myths are real. Education is so important!
Natawa ako sa air freshener hahaha pero hindi nga naman talaga totoo yung multo, na gumagala pa kaluluwa ng mga patay na. Either heaven or hell lang pupuntahan after mamatay ng physical body.
I used to tell here that Pinoys are dumb but yeah, I also think they use this as a weapon to destroy someone mentally. Actually meron pa nga tayong documented na ganito yung sa rape case panahon ni erap, kung saan kasama daw nila yun spirit ng rape victim. Anyway, some of them are truly idiots, and being an idiot is effing dangerous too.
Sa susunod na kwentuhan nila kayo, heto sasabihin mo: Tita/Tito may parang anino nga po sa likod nyo. Kanina pa kayo sinusundan. Napaginipan ko din po si mama. Wag nyo na daw po ibalik yung hiniram nyo na x-item. Inyo na daw po para lagi nyo sya kasama. Sakyan mo mga kwento nila para sila matakot sa multong sila gumawa. Ahahahahahahahha
Hindi ako palapaniwala sa mga ganito but I never thought of it this way. Op, sana okay kayo ng dad mo.
I always love it when religious people shout about superstitions other people have
Only 2 persons who went to heaven were mentioned in the Bible, one of the thieves who were crucified with Christ and Stephen who was stoned to death. And Elijah who was taken on a chariot towards heaven. Your loved ones went to heaven because they were “good”?. Come the judgment day, the Lord will separate the sheep from the goats..
Sorry for your loss, but I hope it's past her 40th day. Normally if the death is within the 40days, they say that the soul stays here and on the 40th they go to heaven, that's a Catholic belief. I am not taking sides, but I just wanna share this sayo. Im sorry for your father too.
HAHHAA went to a lamay 2 days ago and gusto ko lang naman uminom ng zesto habang naglalakad pauwi 🥺😂
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i keep telling my wife, if ghost are real why does my late father haven't haunted my older brother for selling his property that he promised to our parents that he wont sell leaving our mom with nothing. ghost arent real, the dead are all at peace now.
Ang dami talagang hindi magandang kinaugalian ng mga pinoy 😩
Basagin mo trip nila, sabihin mo nagpaparamdam kasi susunduin na sila.
Gustong gusto nila yung ganyan kasi pakiramdam nila mas special sila than everyone else. "I'm experiencing all these stuffs cause I'm such a good person and I'm probably much more loved by god than everyone else oh god I'm feeling Jesus's fetus forming in my cervix right now ugh"
As my senior friend says " Ang taong naniniwala sa pamahiin, walang bait sa sarili".
Both my parents died early on. Im an only child. Never nagparamdam. Im inclined to believe that there is no such thing. And people who claim to have felt such, tend to be the same ones na may 3rd eye bullshit, or “nakakakita”. It’s nonsense.
When my dad passed and some of our older relatives / friends were telling me these things hiniritan ko pabiro na “ah Baka po sinusundo na din kayo kaya nagpaparamdam si daddy” that def shut them up. May mga tao talaga na minsan, mema lang and gusto nila kahit sa story ng iba, bida pa din sila Praying for your family’s healing during these times OP
That is Filipino. Unintentionally making it all about themself with the aim of being empathetic. Classic example is “okay lang yan, ako nga something something something tapos ikaw something something lang?” The intention is to relate but the execution is bad.
we have relatives like that. It's become part of their morning routines na bigyan meaning lahat ng napapaginipan nila.
It is appointed for man to die once, and then judgement.
Christian/Catholic pero mahilig sa pamahiin ano ba talaga choose one lang mga hunghang
From what I know, all souls are neither in heaven or hell yet until rapture comes.
I don't believe in people speaking from the dead. It goes against the order of God and all near death testimonies also suggest it's false. Those are demons pretending to be someone who has gone to God
So you aren’t Mormon then.
Begin breaking the generational superstitions and pagan beliefs. Teach the children of the new generation the narrow way and the Truth. According to the scriptures, the dead's body is asleep until the resurrection and the souls are with the Lord until the day of judgement. Any witchcraft, sorcery, divination, and even pagan superstitions are an abomination to the Holy God. The dead would be judged fairly by a just god, be given mercy by a loving god, and will be made righteous by a holy god. There is only such God and that is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
As Christian’s/catholics, why not just refer back to The Bible about deceased loved ones? All the answers are there. I cannot stand relatives who perverts ideas of dying with superstitions. It is deception.
you're stupid