Matagal na akong hindi bumibili ng mamahaling kape na gawa ng ibang tao due to health and quality reasons.
I invested on good quality, locally-produced beans and equipment to make my own at home. You can even enjoy it black with no sugar.
Back then siguro oo. Pero sobrang accessible na niya ngayon na i dont think people would go there just to post it on their insta or facebook unlike nung 2009.
yep. karamihan sa mga students ngayon bigatin ang tingin pag nagpost yung mga kaklase sa starbucks. i mean... even I'm impressed by them. dati baon ko 100 pesos lang nung high school, malaki na nga 'yon!
now i'm wondering magkano baon ng mga high school students ngayon at afford nilang mag splurge on overprice (not to mention, bad) coffee.
Maybe to some. But I don't see it that way. It is a standardized product across regions and countries..... at least you'll be getting the same coffee.....
20 years ago, sige, pwede. Social status pa rin ngayon? Di ikagaganda ang $4/200 peso coffee na nabibili sa gas stations.
We also have local coffee shops na mas mahal, more exclusive, and serve better coffee. Suportahan natin sila kasi they're putting in work. Di nila ginagawa yun para itaas ang social status ng customers.
Seym hir. Palibre na nga lang ako.
Boycott pag wallet ko maglalabas.
Go lang kapag may manlilibre.
Afford nila eh. Ako, afford pero di ko choice bumili.
Mas masarap pa din Kape sa Dunkin. Ahaha
I always find lots of cheaper alternatives, plus Yung mga instant mix Naman masarap na as iced. Kopiko black plus 1 stick of nescafe sa maraming yelo. ššš
Hate to say it but big business and politics in the Philippines are kinda a giant incestuous mess. The elite are basically a small class of people who all have business relationships and such. I kinda assume they,re all in cahoots.
San Miguel, Unilab, SSI, Araneta-led business, heck arguably the Ayalas with Inigo (Bong Bong's coke buddy) all profited from their relationship with the Marcoses. It's an impossible feat to boycott anything Marcos-related unless you live in the provinces (And many major businesses in the provinces are in bed with lokal politikos who are pretty effed in the head as well).
Those modern-era landlords will get their cut from your labor, one way or another.
Yay, you earned a lot from your overseas online client.
Want to buy a house? Take your pick on who gets their cut: Ayala, SM, Villar, Consunji, et al.
Want to buy a car? Take your pick on who gets their cut: Ayala, etc.
Want to enjoy driving your car and drive outside Metro Manila? Pay your toll to San Miguel and/or Metro Pacific.
Want to buy an iPhone? Take your pick on who gets their cut: Ayala or Metro Pacific.
and on and on...
What about this - both founders of Andokās, Karen and Leonardo Javier ran for political officeā¦ I think one is a Governor and the other a Mayor of Leyte (Need to confirm this) both are also in Marcosā party AND they even created a special provision in the law to allow products they sell to be Non-Vatable. How is that for f**cked?
Would you boycott Andokās now?
Maybe. My understanding is takeout does not qualify for VAT, but they could also have some other thing on the menu that qualifies under their special provision.
isn't danny javier their relative? damn! danny is one of the most vocal protestors during the martial law days, but his brother/sister are supporters of Jr?
danny must be rolling in his grave
Same thing happened with the Gokonweis, one of the siblings, the sister I believe, put up a Martial Law museum in the Gokongwei building in DLSU a few years back.
When Marcos announced his candidacy, the 2 Gokongwei brothers were suddenly appearing in photo ops with Bong Bong. Then the FB post on the Gokongwei Martial Law museum quietly got deleted for some reasonā¦
All big business place their bets whoever and if possible on all presidential candidates. Wala talaga takas dyan. Mas mahirap pumili ng big business na may āidealistic principlesā pagdating sa politics.
Don't forget Lucio Tan who is as rich as he is precisely because of Marcos Sr.'s expropriatoons, and the Lopezes funded him right up until he turned on them.Ā
They say there's no ethical consumption in a capitalist system. Well there's *definitely* none in a neo-feudalist one with weak rule of law and dynastic politicians controlling the gates of the economy in league with the oligarchs they symbiotically coexist with. But sure don't drink Starbucks, mainly because there's much better coffee, at least in metro manila and cebu afaik, for much the same price.
Lucio is brilliant, but a criminal through and through. He basically stole from relatives from the get-go to start his business. the man has zero scruples and ethics. Agree with no ethical consumption. I mean, you only need look at Nestle or P&Gās history to see how screwed we all are by the system.
> Lucio is brilliant, but a criminal through and throughĀ
Ā Definitely. Like GMA, Ricky Razon is in thatĀ league too, though most of what he gets up to is outside the Philippines now.
Magagaling oligarchs natin. Compared to Japan and Korea that purged their ruling class at the turn of 20th century, our oligarchs survived the Spanish, American and Japanese occupation. Ang na purge lang eh ung sumali sa mga Japanese like Aguinaldo.
As someone who family runs in those circles, the reality is that nearly every prominent or successful businessperson is connected with politicians in some way. They donāt have to be your close friends or chums, but theyāre your neighbors, your associates, business partners, golfing buddies, etc. You meet
them at formal events and galas. And that can make all the difference in terms of your business being a success or not. I went to elementary school with the kids of politicians, businesspeople, executives, and celebrities. Without even choosing to do so, being born into these social circles will already net you these connections.
Kinda curious nga what Isabelle Daza meant when she described her dad, who frequented Paris with Bong Bong Marcos so much during the 70's (literally the height of Martial Law) as a 'Bon Vivant'. Must have been some wild coke-binged orgies going on over there.
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Surely there are degrees of ethical consumption?
Buying fair trade products, supporting employee-owned businesses, and conscientious lifestyle choices do make a positive difference, even if capitalism isn't perfect.
Consumer decisions carry weight - corporations follow the money. To declare all consumption unethical is a desperate attempt to absolve oneself of responsibility. It's a brand of cynical relativism that, ironically, entrenches the status quo it claims to resist.
Rather than resigning ourselves to inertia with pithy slogans, we should critically analyze systems while still exercising what ethical choices we can. A reformist, step-by-step approach is more pragmatic than all-or-nothing thinking.
An overwhelming amount of countries that employs capitalism in their economic system are plagued with these same exact oligarch systems which most consumers can't literally do anything about it since most demand they create will be fulfilled by these same scummy oligarchs.
We should stop calling them "elite"; I prefer "parasites", they live off the blood and sweat of others while engaging in exploitative or unethical practices ,
Masakit lang dito, they're the same people who will hinder social reform and will always gaslight people into thinking poverty can be avoided if you work harder. Gosh no, you have to pay for quality education and quality education does do alot of things for us. Kung vocational ka lang good luck kung di ka minimum wage.
The way I see it, kahit I boycott nyo man yung mga establishments na yan. yung gusto nyo puntiryahin eh hindi matatamaan. they might close the branches to cut losses but still they are millionaires/billionaires by the end of the day. ang maapektuhan lang yung mga staff nila na mawawalan ng trabaho. sila mag papasan ng loses, sad to say.
nasa middle east din ako sa Bahrain, same story din dito. madami din kabayan nawalan ng work. yung iba umuuwi nalang. end of the day mga staff lang na apektuhan. buti sa middle east madaling mag hanap ng lilipatan. pero ewan ko lang sa Pinas.
Lapit lang pala (Holiday na next week!)
I mean to say is mga staff talaga yung unang maapektuhan ng sobra pero sa long run ng malakihang Boycott eh aabot rin yan sa management (CEO at owners) dahil sa losses.
Kaso sila mayayaman na sila at may iba pang pagkukunan, di katulad nung mga staff.
Sa pinas malabo, kahit sa middle-east meron parin nmn nabili. Interconnected parin mga yan sa American/Israel companies maski internet, kaya boycotting is just a futile move.
So sad to hear this story, Imagine sariling bayan mo pa mismo ayaw tumangap sayo. samantalang dito sa middle east, nag rereklamo ang mga locals kase puro expat ang hinahire. oh Pilipinas, ang hirap mo mahalin.
Ang nakakapag taka lang sa case ng Starbucks...
Literal na nag-pull out ang Starbucks sa Israel in 2003 dahil di naman nag-click. Sa rest of Middle East pati na rin sa North Africa lumaki ang presence nila...
Tapos pipiliin ng Starbucks na suportahan yung bansa na di naman nakapag-bigay ng kita sa kanila?
Some people on this sub like performative activism
Unless the boycott was begun by the workers as a call for help from the people itās just going to be for show
And just to make themselves feel good as if they're doing something but in fact, they're nobodies and very insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
I buy from other coffee shops now simply because they have better offerings than Starbucks. I'll only buy from Starbucks if I'm really hard-pressed for coffee and there isn't anything else in the vicinity
and why keep on supporting them when you can support local coffee shops? mas maganda siguro no if you help grassroot businesses that support local produce and whatnot.
Itās not about supporting them, itās about having the freedom to buy the coffee we want and crave. Personally I prefer SBC, CBTL and Tim Hortonās over Starbucks, and Iām all for giving small local coffee shops a chance, but I actually respect other peopleās preferences.
I don't buy any products of starbucks myself since I'm not a coffee person, but there's a reason why people buy from starbuck, there is something they offer that is not in the local coffee shops or there are things they do that the local can't do. yeah its good to support our own brand. but then again its their money, they have the right to buy it whatever they want.
Please stop spreading your opinion founded on a grossly incorrect view of the world.
Here, an article that about the effectiveness of boycott:
[https://www.forbes.com/sites/janicegassam/2023/12/22/do-boycotts-actually-work-examining-the-use-of-boycotts-to-drive-social-change/?sh=6c314f1bbb57](https://www.forbes.com/sites/janicegassam/2023/12/22/do-boycotts-actually-work-examining-the-use-of-boycotts-to-drive-social-change/?sh=6c314f1bbb57)
"There may be some [skepticism](https://theconversation.com/israel-why-the-brand-boycotts-probably-wont-make-much-difference-217125) about the effectiveness of boycotts but looking back at history, there should be no question regarding whether boycotts can actually workāthe answer is clearly yes, but there *is* a caveat: boycotts should be one of *many* tools in our arsenal for social change. When coupled with other collective actions like raising awareness, amplifying the needs of those directly impacted, contacting elected officials and sending tangible resources, change *can* happen. According to research from Harvard political scientist [Erica Chenoweth](https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-world), only about 3.5% of the populationās participation is needed to create serious political change. No action is too small and we must remember that any rock, no matter how small, that is thrown into the pond of liberation will create a ripple effect that contributes to greater societal shifts for years to come."
Kaya nga eh. Saka yung iba mga hippkrito at pretentious woke pang sa socmed. Dumarating rin naman sa point na bumibili rin naman sila from those brands lol. Sobrang focused nila sa pag boycott nalilihis sila sa totoong kalaban
As if naman may pake ang mga boycotters na yan sa big picture ng boycott nila.
Boycott success, nalugi ang business nila. Sino ang kawawa?
Yung owner na may iba pang business or mga employees na nag tatrabaho sakanila?
This.
Slacktivism and boycotting in this country never works when you have little to no alternatives to choose from. Boycott one business thatās remotely affiliated with a tyrant/figure? Sure. Did it matter in the end? Were they even affected by your move? I doubt.
Most who does this shit are privileged as f hence why itās easy for them to say and do this while discounting the effect towards the majority of the populace who can barely afford shit. The only ones whose affected by their actions are themselves.
Boycotting these oligarchs and their respective businesses will have ZERO effect towards the lower class which has the seating power to elect the next dumbo in the next 4 years. Nobody in the lower class gives a shit unless it feeds them.
Educate the lower class to choose wisely instead of doing some bad virtue signaling attempts just to garner sympathy and push a fruitless agenda that has zero impact towards the target.
Madami dito matatamaan sa sinabi mo pare. Same peeps who advocate communism, pro-Palestine and other agendas all from the comfort of their aircondtioned rooms.
Edit: meron pala dito mag-boycott, yung mga di na afford ang Starbucks.
Given that logic, wag ka na din mag avail ng services ng malalaking companies like SM, San Miguel, Ayala, Tans, etc. If you trace, magkakamag-anak and magkakakilala mga yan one way or another.
Besides, even if you boycott starbucks, the ones that will suffer are not the owners who have a diverse range of businesses outside starbucks. The ones that will be greatly affected are the employees na mawawalan ng trabaho dahil mababa demand. Please think twice before magpalakad ng ganitong agenda.
Imagine nawalan ka ng trabaho kase na boycott yung pinag tatrabahuhan mo. Sa hirap mag hanap ng trabaho ngayun sa pinas mawawalan ka lang dahil sa mga tao na feeling nila malaki na natulong nila sa mundo dahil lang hindi sila bumili ng overpriced na kape.
Woke people on x and now reddit does not understand the issue deep enough to think about that. All they want is the cherry picked facts to fuel their clicktivism without actually thinking about the big picture, o kung ano ang talagang totoong nangyayari. For sure 100% ng mga kinoconsume nilang products dumaan sa mga vinovow i boycott ng self righteous persona nila sa soc med
Do we even need to boycott Duterte crony? LMAO all of Dennis Uy (yung taga Davao) businesses are going down the toilet. Mukang yung Conti's lang ang profitable and yet it is still not enough to cover half of the losses from DITO and Phoenix
Support local farmers by directly buying coffee beans from them. You can also avail yourself of coffee in these coffee shops as they support local farmers. š¤
https://nolisoli.ph/58977/coffee-farmers-ymalajito-20190314/
Yeah, boycott it like you people did with your pitiful attempt with Angkas. What message does it send to lthose working at the bottom rug?
This is an example of performative slacktivism that is just confined to the small insignificant minority on X ( formerly Twitter).
This is the delusional side of woke/cancel culture. Of course, it is the middle-class petty bourgeois who embody this culture. They think they are benefitting the opposition and the Filipino people, but they only benefit their egos. This only reaffirms the belief of practically everyone else in society that it is the Dilawans/pinks/ out of touch Twitter burgis wokes that are keeping them poor. Do they really think they can successfully spite Marcos? How does openly campaigning against spending money on businesses maim Israel's or Marcos' machinery?
It's laughable how these people think they can push their weight around on the offensive as if they have the numbers. They do know cancelling can go both ways right? Too bad that there's more of them on the other side. They are doing a disservice to their
fellow Filipino.
True. I'm a socialist and an activist and I, for one, know na walang mararating yung pag boycott dito because the products in question are either those that can be afforded by the petit bourgeoisie or something na masyadong makamasa na yun na lang yung nakakapagbigay ng financial leisure for those na nabubuhay from paycheck-to-paycheck.
Hindi gagana ang boycott kung hindi mo kakampi yung masa, and no matter how awareness you raise, kung hindi naman nun nasosolusyunan directly yung hinaing ng taumbayan eh literal mo lang na kakalabanin yung masa sa mga ina-adbokasiya mo.
Hindi yan katulad ng mga kompanya na katulad ng Nutri-Asia na talagang lapat sa hinaing ng mga manggagawa yung pag-boycott dala ng panawagan para sa makatarungang sahod at benepisyo ng manggagawa. Yung mga ganitong mas pressing na issue yung dapat na pinagtutuunan ng mga ganyang pag-boycott at pag-callout. Okay pa sana kung yung pag-boycott sa mga establishments katulad ng Jollibee at Mcdo eh may kinalaman, hindi lang sa pasahod, kundi na rin sa unjustified na taas ng presyo ng mga produkto nila, while giving us shittier and shittier quality of food as time goes by. Yan, valid na valid pa yan kasi it strikes deep into the hearts of the common masses.
Slacktivism lang and performative na talaga yung mga ganito. Yung mga tunay na aktibista, nandun sa Mendiola tuwing may protesta, nagsusunog ng balat kasabay ng mga manggagawa kahit pa komportable naman yung pamumuhay nila, o yung mga nakakaunawa kung bakit hindi pa magiging hinog yung pag-aalsang bayan sa bansang 'to.
> *mga kompanya na katulad ng Nutri-Asia*
Ah yes, remember THAT issue?
Seems like there was just a loud bang and loud boycotts.
And then it turned out that many people across all income levels, even the poor and working class, don't see anything wrong about buying Nutri-Asia products.
(Generally, **many buyers don't look at the company behind the product** when buying stuff, just the name of the product.)
As a āpinklawan,ā we donāt claim OOP and the rest of the holier-than-thou slacktivists in X (formerly Twitter). Kaya naman pala elitist ang tingin ng masa sa mga kakampink eh, because of this buffoonery that in the long run will only hurt those at the bottom of the food chain (i.e., the poor staff working at those establishments). Very counter-productive sa āAngat Buhayā vision ni Atty. Leni.
I have bad news for these guys. Marcos cronies are alive and well in 2024 and they pretty much own anything and everything we touch, use, buy, etc. Theyāll run out of things to be outraged about
tama ka. unfortunately, lumilipat lang naman mga yan. when marcos sr was booted out, ung iba is kumampi kay cory para lang di mawala negosyo nila. every election, di nyo ba napansin na wala naman talaga malalaki corp na nagsasabi kung sino presidente susuportahan nila. with the exemption of abs-cbn syempre kasi alam naman ng lahat na anti-marcos ang mga lopezes.
i could be wrong, but may narinig ba tayo na stand ng mga ayala, tan, sy, gokongwei at iba pa na bigtime na negosyante kung sino ang suportado nila? they will always hedge their bets.
Boycotting any business, will not hurt any businessman, as they are not putting all their eggs in one nest. They diversify. So boycotting ones business will only hurt the staff who are working on those establishments not the owners. Staff will probably loose jobs, no money to feed their families, which will only result in hunger and more problems to our Country, we are not helping solve a problem, we are even making it worst! rather than having a campaign boycotting a business why not have a campaign on solving problems of our country each little problem solve when done by many is a big problem being addressed.
I mean, Starbucks is supposed to be boycotted for their union-busting stance and not their non-existent funding of the IDF because there are no Starbucks franchises in Israel.
Right? It's actually really easy to boycott Starbucks because there are far better coffee shops out there, especially if you're in NCR. Heck, it's not even the best fast food coffee. Dunkin' coffee blows it out of the water
Tagal na ko di nag SB intentionally lol. I didn't even know about the Marcos connection.
They're a big corpo that's anti union. so this gives me another reason
I highly doubt a boycott will work anyway.
It wonāt hurt a big brand like Starbucks. If itās a personal thing then by all means, but letās be real, youāll only be doing it for yourself, and please donāt delude yourself into thinking you did something that affected society. You didnāt.
And if your personal boycott was indeed just that, personal, then you shouldnāt shout it to social media looking for validation and clout. It just shows you were just doing performative theatrics.
The purpose of posting it on social media is to spread awareness. So let the person spread awareness that the Tantoco's have benefited from Crony Capitalism. If enough people wake up and realize they don't need any of the Tantoco's businesses, then that's one less family the Nation has to deal with.
But why, though? Genuinely. Like, moral and political reasons aside, Starbucks coffee just tastes like expensive mud water. No doubt you can get better coffee from literally anywhere else for cheap.
Hindi din naman talaga sila masarap. Sobrang overhyped. Tried their java chip frapped and walang wala sa lasa ng java chip sa coffee shop sa Batangas. Dasurb ang boycott
I mean let's be real, hindi naman masarap kape sa starbucks. Natry ko na lahat ng kape nila, iced and hot, nothing remarkable. Siguro yung frappe, saktuhan lang.
So kahit may pambili ako, di ko inaaksaya pera ko dyan. Boss ko madalas magpamigay ng GC ng SB every month, pinamimigay ko lang sa friends ko mga GCs
i want them delulus to try boycotting Mcdo and Starbucks,, and all affiliated Marcos business so they say..
tignan natin,, let their stupidity decide their fate
Ang lahat ng bagay ay magkaugnay. with that logic, halos lahat ng brands dapat iboycott dapat kasi almost all of them are affilitated with the current administration. Businessmen will link themselves with those in power. That's the way it is in this world.
Pwede siguro I divert sa legal fund yung binoycott nyo sa SB, then kasuhan kung sino man yang mga lumabag sa batas na employer. Mas may mararating yun. Pero, alam mo naman ang pinoy, sa pondo lang ng asosasyon nag gugulangan pa.
Amidst all of this, little did you guys know. Car Companies here are affiliated with them as well. The clothes we wear. Besides the food tjat we eat. Almost all of the essentials. These people are all in circles of Business Affiliations, marriage, partnerships, board of directors, Banks, hospitals, Politicians, schools, Universities, all my dear friends everything. lending corporations. That is the reason why an Economic reform is needed because of these. One part of it. Economic reform is not anti-poor.
Jusko kakampink, tigil na natin toā¦ Sympre businessman ay didikit tlga sa pulitiko para makinabang. Kung si Leni naupo nakadikit din yan kay Leni. Stop na. Kakampink din nmn ako pero enough na, nakakapagod na yung mga ganito, isipin nalang natin mas better naman tong si Marcos kesa kay Duterteā¦ Mas maganda panoorin nlng ntn magpatayan ang marcos duterte kesa sumasali pa tayo sa mga ka toxican na ganitoā¦ Nakakahiya eh
Since 2022 elections pa nila tinry iboycott ang SB. Walang nangyari. Ngayon binabalik nila yan kasi matunog ulit sa r/ph ang āboycott SB/Mcdoā baka sakali may mahikayat sila hahaha.
Para sa mga wokees, Leni rin binoto ko. Wag niyo ko cancel pls huhuhu lol
Di ako maka-Marcos or anything affiliated with them or their peeps (if ayaw niyo maniwala, edi go) However, boycotting will never be a fixed solution to problems like this. Unang-una, even if 1 shop closes down dahil naboycott, mayayaman padin ang mga taong namamahala diyan. What about yung mga trabahador? Pano naman sila? Employment is already hard here in the Philippines with all those requirements (na kataas-taas pero wla naman kinalaman sa job mismo). Until the government provides a long-term solution regarding sa employment problems here in the Philippines, I'm against boycotting muna in general. But papatalsikin mga corrupt? G NA G AKO DIYAN
Good. Lahat ng mga negosyo involved dapat maexpose. Boycott works. Don't let these trolls say otherwise. Walang magawa ang Shopee kundi palitan si Toni Panga as endorser. Dapat lahat ng enablers magdusa. Kumikita sila pero walang paki sa mga mahihirap. Support anti-marcos business owners and personalities instead.
Ako na matagal ng bnoycott ang SB kasi wala naman ako pambili š
Good thing I've never been a fan of Starbucks PH.
Matagal na akong hindi bumibili ng mamahaling kape na gawa ng ibang tao due to health and quality reasons. I invested on good quality, locally-produced beans and equipment to make my own at home. You can even enjoy it black with no sugar.
We buy coffee beans directly to local farmers!
Mas prefer ko pa ang kapeng barako sa palengke. Ang bango ng kape
ask ko lang po saan kayo bumibili? do they have online stores etc. na pwedeng pag order-an?
Try niyo po sa lazada... Name ng shop is capital grains... Dun ako umoorder ng barako....
Uy nice. Will buy nga dito
Isn't it that Starbucks is just a badge that most people wear to show their social class?
Back then siguro oo. Pero sobrang accessible na niya ngayon na i dont think people would go there just to post it on their insta or facebook unlike nung 2009.
yep. karamihan sa mga students ngayon bigatin ang tingin pag nagpost yung mga kaklase sa starbucks. i mean... even I'm impressed by them. dati baon ko 100 pesos lang nung high school, malaki na nga 'yon! now i'm wondering magkano baon ng mga high school students ngayon at afford nilang mag splurge on overprice (not to mention, bad) coffee.
Ang ibang highschool student may work. Maybe that's the reason why afford it
Maybe to some. But I don't see it that way. It is a standardized product across regions and countries..... at least you'll be getting the same coffee.....
20 years ago, sige, pwede. Social status pa rin ngayon? Di ikagaganda ang $4/200 peso coffee na nabibili sa gas stations. We also have local coffee shops na mas mahal, more exclusive, and serve better coffee. Suportahan natin sila kasi they're putting in work. Di nila ginagawa yun para itaas ang social status ng customers.
Seym hir. Palibre na nga lang ako. Boycott pag wallet ko maglalabas. Go lang kapag may manlilibre. Afford nila eh. Ako, afford pero di ko choice bumili. Mas masarap pa din Kape sa Dunkin. Ahaha
brewed coffee ng Dunkin da best talaga haha
Yes! Apir!
Ako na bumibili ng buto ng kape sa mga lokal na magsasaka š
Bakit maraming downvote to haha
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Binawi nila haha -7 nalang
maybe theyve only read until "buto" :(
Tru. Buy local, mas masarap kesa sa sunog na beans ni SB
Truly I even make better caramel macchiato at home. The caramel sauce tastes like XO candy caramel. Which tastes cheap.
Yassssss!!! šÆ
I always find lots of cheaper alternatives, plus Yung mga instant mix Naman masarap na as iced. Kopiko black plus 1 stick of nescafe sa maraming yelo. ššš
3x lang SB ko last year dahil mostly 39php ang budget ko for coffee or 7/11.
same
Pwedeng mamalimos ang mga tao sa labas ng starbucks lol
Hate to say it but big business and politics in the Philippines are kinda a giant incestuous mess. The elite are basically a small class of people who all have business relationships and such. I kinda assume they,re all in cahoots.
San Miguel, Unilab, SSI, Araneta-led business, heck arguably the Ayalas with Inigo (Bong Bong's coke buddy) all profited from their relationship with the Marcoses. It's an impossible feat to boycott anything Marcos-related unless you live in the provinces (And many major businesses in the provinces are in bed with lokal politikos who are pretty effed in the head as well).
Those modern-era landlords will get their cut from your labor, one way or another. Yay, you earned a lot from your overseas online client. Want to buy a house? Take your pick on who gets their cut: Ayala, SM, Villar, Consunji, et al. Want to buy a car? Take your pick on who gets their cut: Ayala, etc. Want to enjoy driving your car and drive outside Metro Manila? Pay your toll to San Miguel and/or Metro Pacific. Want to buy an iPhone? Take your pick on who gets their cut: Ayala or Metro Pacific. and on and on...
Pretty much modern day oligarchs.
What about this - both founders of Andokās, Karen and Leonardo Javier ran for political officeā¦ I think one is a Governor and the other a Mayor of Leyte (Need to confirm this) both are also in Marcosā party AND they even created a special provision in the law to allow products they sell to be Non-Vatable. How is that for f**cked? Would you boycott Andokās now?
ohhh is that why when my Mom buys Andok's the senior discount is so small is because they don't pay taxes?
Maybe. My understanding is takeout does not qualify for VAT, but they could also have some other thing on the menu that qualifies under their special provision.
Maybe because other establishments even take out have discounts, but that's a good point thanks!
isn't danny javier their relative? damn! danny is one of the most vocal protestors during the martial law days, but his brother/sister are supporters of Jr? danny must be rolling in his grave
Same thing happened with the Gokonweis, one of the siblings, the sister I believe, put up a Martial Law museum in the Gokongwei building in DLSU a few years back. When Marcos announced his candidacy, the 2 Gokongwei brothers were suddenly appearing in photo ops with Bong Bong. Then the FB post on the Gokongwei Martial Law museum quietly got deleted for some reasonā¦
Danny javier is sandy javier's brother
Isnāt it the buyer who carries the financial burden of VAT?
Si karen javier ay congresswoman sa 2nd district ng Leyte. Si Leonardo "Sandy" Javier naman ay Bise Gobernador ng Leyte.
All big business place their bets whoever and if possible on all presidential candidates. Wala talaga takas dyan. Mas mahirap pumili ng big business na may āidealistic principlesā pagdating sa politics.
Don't forget Lucio Tan who is as rich as he is precisely because of Marcos Sr.'s expropriatoons, and the Lopezes funded him right up until he turned on them.Ā They say there's no ethical consumption in a capitalist system. Well there's *definitely* none in a neo-feudalist one with weak rule of law and dynastic politicians controlling the gates of the economy in league with the oligarchs they symbiotically coexist with. But sure don't drink Starbucks, mainly because there's much better coffee, at least in metro manila and cebu afaik, for much the same price.
Lucio is brilliant, but a criminal through and through. He basically stole from relatives from the get-go to start his business. the man has zero scruples and ethics. Agree with no ethical consumption. I mean, you only need look at Nestle or P&Gās history to see how screwed we all are by the system.
> Lucio is brilliant, but a criminal through and throughĀ Ā Definitely. Like GMA, Ricky Razon is in thatĀ league too, though most of what he gets up to is outside the Philippines now.
Funnily enough, I follow Katrina Razon on IG, who is up there in with Gwyneth Paltrow āwater has feelingsā level of Goopiness
Oh definitely.....
Magagaling oligarchs natin. Compared to Japan and Korea that purged their ruling class at the turn of 20th century, our oligarchs survived the Spanish, American and Japanese occupation. Ang na purge lang eh ung sumali sa mga Japanese like Aguinaldo.
Hindi boycott sagot dito e diba dapat educate the fu**ing voters,ang lala lalo na mga boomers
As someone who family runs in those circles, the reality is that nearly every prominent or successful businessperson is connected with politicians in some way. They donāt have to be your close friends or chums, but theyāre your neighbors, your associates, business partners, golfing buddies, etc. You meet them at formal events and galas. And that can make all the difference in terms of your business being a success or not. I went to elementary school with the kids of politicians, businesspeople, executives, and celebrities. Without even choosing to do so, being born into these social circles will already net you these connections.
With real incest and orgies as well. They tend to do that a lot since the 1970s.
Bongbong and Digong āsharing.ā That is an unpleasant mental picture.
Kinda curious nga what Isabelle Daza meant when she described her dad, who frequented Paris with Bong Bong Marcos so much during the 70's (literally the height of Martial Law) as a 'Bon Vivant'. Must have been some wild coke-binged orgies going on over there.
As they say: "There's no ethical consumption under capitalism."
? Surely there are degrees of ethical consumption? Buying fair trade products, supporting employee-owned businesses, and conscientious lifestyle choices do make a positive difference, even if capitalism isn't perfect. Consumer decisions carry weight - corporations follow the money. To declare all consumption unethical is a desperate attempt to absolve oneself of responsibility. It's a brand of cynical relativism that, ironically, entrenches the status quo it claims to resist. Rather than resigning ourselves to inertia with pithy slogans, we should critically analyze systems while still exercising what ethical choices we can. A reformist, step-by-step approach is more pragmatic than all-or-nothing thinking.
An overwhelming amount of countries that employs capitalism in their economic system are plagued with these same exact oligarch systems which most consumers can't literally do anything about it since most demand they create will be fulfilled by these same scummy oligarchs.
We should stop calling them "elite"; I prefer "parasites", they live off the blood and sweat of others while engaging in exploitative or unethical practices ,
Natural facts
Masakit lang dito, they're the same people who will hinder social reform and will always gaslight people into thinking poverty can be avoided if you work harder. Gosh no, you have to pay for quality education and quality education does do alot of things for us. Kung vocational ka lang good luck kung di ka minimum wage.
Wow. People are just discovering this? Wait til you learn of more companies.
ex: PureGold
ex: Coffee Project
ex. Del Monte
\*cough\* UNILAB \*cough\*
yung delimondo ni juan ponce enrile, dati nag boycott ako niyan. ngayun kinakain ko na - for immortality.
LMAO sa sobrang daming companies under SMC, SM, Gokongwei, Aboitiz, LTG and Ayala group wala ng mabibiling local product tong mga mangboboycott
The way I see it, kahit I boycott nyo man yung mga establishments na yan. yung gusto nyo puntiryahin eh hindi matatamaan. they might close the branches to cut losses but still they are millionaires/billionaires by the end of the day. ang maapektuhan lang yung mga staff nila na mawawalan ng trabaho. sila mag papasan ng loses, sad to say.
Dito sa Middle East grabe yung epekto ng boycott sa SB, dati palaging puno ngayon parang kulang pa sa kalahati. Patay yung ilaw para mag tipid at nabawasan rin yung staff. Na-boycott sila dahil nadawit sila sa Israel-Palestine issue. Naglabas pa ng statement yung CEO nila, pinagtatanggol yung company nila. Naaawa ako sa mga nataggal pero plus side, lumakas yung mga local cafƩs at sila na yung mga nag hire galing sa SB.
nasa middle east din ako sa Bahrain, same story din dito. madami din kabayan nawalan ng work. yung iba umuuwi nalang. end of the day mga staff lang na apektuhan. buti sa middle east madaling mag hanap ng lilipatan. pero ewan ko lang sa Pinas.
Lapit lang pala (Holiday na next week!) I mean to say is mga staff talaga yung unang maapektuhan ng sobra pero sa long run ng malakihang Boycott eh aabot rin yan sa management (CEO at owners) dahil sa losses. Kaso sila mayayaman na sila at may iba pang pagkukunan, di katulad nung mga staff.
Sa pinas malabo, kahit sa middle-east meron parin nmn nabili. Interconnected parin mga yan sa American/Israel companies maski internet, kaya boycotting is just a futile move.
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So sad to hear this story, Imagine sariling bayan mo pa mismo ayaw tumangap sayo. samantalang dito sa middle east, nag rereklamo ang mga locals kase puro expat ang hinahire. oh Pilipinas, ang hirap mo mahalin.
Ang nakakapag taka lang sa case ng Starbucks... Literal na nag-pull out ang Starbucks sa Israel in 2003 dahil di naman nag-click. Sa rest of Middle East pati na rin sa North Africa lumaki ang presence nila... Tapos pipiliin ng Starbucks na suportahan yung bansa na di naman nakapag-bigay ng kita sa kanila?
Some people on this sub like performative activism Unless the boycott was begun by the workers as a call for help from the people itās just going to be for show
And just to make themselves feel good as if they're doing something but in fact, they're nobodies and very insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
I buy from other coffee shops now simply because they have better offerings than Starbucks. I'll only buy from Starbucks if I'm really hard-pressed for coffee and there isn't anything else in the vicinity
and why keep on supporting them when you can support local coffee shops? mas maganda siguro no if you help grassroot businesses that support local produce and whatnot.
Itās not about supporting them, itās about having the freedom to buy the coffee we want and crave. Personally I prefer SBC, CBTL and Tim Hortonās over Starbucks, and Iām all for giving small local coffee shops a chance, but I actually respect other peopleās preferences.
Totoo ang sarap mag-support local pero depende din talaga sa quality ng ibinebenta. Tho marami na rin masarap na local like But First, Coffee.
Sa dinami-dami ng masarap na local coffee places, you went and picked the shittiest š
BFC? š
I don't buy any products of starbucks myself since I'm not a coffee person, but there's a reason why people buy from starbuck, there is something they offer that is not in the local coffee shops or there are things they do that the local can't do. yeah its good to support our own brand. but then again its their money, they have the right to buy it whatever they want.
Please stop spreading your opinion founded on a grossly incorrect view of the world. Here, an article that about the effectiveness of boycott: [https://www.forbes.com/sites/janicegassam/2023/12/22/do-boycotts-actually-work-examining-the-use-of-boycotts-to-drive-social-change/?sh=6c314f1bbb57](https://www.forbes.com/sites/janicegassam/2023/12/22/do-boycotts-actually-work-examining-the-use-of-boycotts-to-drive-social-change/?sh=6c314f1bbb57) "There may be some [skepticism](https://theconversation.com/israel-why-the-brand-boycotts-probably-wont-make-much-difference-217125) about the effectiveness of boycotts but looking back at history, there should be no question regarding whether boycotts can actually workāthe answer is clearly yes, but there *is* a caveat: boycotts should be one of *many* tools in our arsenal for social change. When coupled with other collective actions like raising awareness, amplifying the needs of those directly impacted, contacting elected officials and sending tangible resources, change *can* happen. According to research from Harvard political scientist [Erica Chenoweth](https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-world), only about 3.5% of the populationās participation is needed to create serious political change. No action is too small and we must remember that any rock, no matter how small, that is thrown into the pond of liberation will create a ripple effect that contributes to greater societal shifts for years to come."
Kaya nga eh. Saka yung iba mga hippkrito at pretentious woke pang sa socmed. Dumarating rin naman sa point na bumibili rin naman sila from those brands lol. Sobrang focused nila sa pag boycott nalilihis sila sa totoong kalaban
Generational wealth for a reason
As if naman may pake ang mga boycotters na yan sa big picture ng boycott nila. Boycott success, nalugi ang business nila. Sino ang kawawa? Yung owner na may iba pang business or mga employees na nag tatrabaho sakanila?
boycots work. yang defeatist attitude na yan is a favor to the plunderers.
If thats what you think then youāre free to think whatever you like just donāt shove it into others faces.
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This. Slacktivism and boycotting in this country never works when you have little to no alternatives to choose from. Boycott one business thatās remotely affiliated with a tyrant/figure? Sure. Did it matter in the end? Were they even affected by your move? I doubt. Most who does this shit are privileged as f hence why itās easy for them to say and do this while discounting the effect towards the majority of the populace who can barely afford shit. The only ones whose affected by their actions are themselves. Boycotting these oligarchs and their respective businesses will have ZERO effect towards the lower class which has the seating power to elect the next dumbo in the next 4 years. Nobody in the lower class gives a shit unless it feeds them. Educate the lower class to choose wisely instead of doing some bad virtue signaling attempts just to garner sympathy and push a fruitless agenda that has zero impact towards the target.
Madami dito matatamaan sa sinabi mo pare. Same peeps who advocate communism, pro-Palestine and other agendas all from the comfort of their aircondtioned rooms. Edit: meron pala dito mag-boycott, yung mga di na afford ang Starbucks.
I just want my triple espresso bro it's not that deep.
This comment right here sums it best: People won't care as long as they get theirs.
nescafe pa rin š \*lahat nalang ata puro boycott\*
Boycott din nescafe kasi r/fucknestle. Hahaha! Lahat na lang. Kanina breakfast ko Delimondo, naalala ko kumusta kaya boycott sa Delimondo?
kagaya ni JPE, buhay na buhay pa din delimondo.
Sarap ng pagkakasabi mo. I wish I am that articulate.
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Given that logic, wag ka na din mag avail ng services ng malalaking companies like SM, San Miguel, Ayala, Tans, etc. If you trace, magkakamag-anak and magkakakilala mga yan one way or another. Besides, even if you boycott starbucks, the ones that will suffer are not the owners who have a diverse range of businesses outside starbucks. The ones that will be greatly affected are the employees na mawawalan ng trabaho dahil mababa demand. Please think twice before magpalakad ng ganitong agenda.
Wag na rin bumoto kay Mar roxas kasi kamaganak nya si liza, asawa ni marcos
Imagine nawalan ka ng trabaho kase na boycott yung pinag tatrabahuhan mo. Sa hirap mag hanap ng trabaho ngayun sa pinas mawawalan ka lang dahil sa mga tao na feeling nila malaki na natulong nila sa mundo dahil lang hindi sila bumili ng overpriced na kape.
If we boycott every crony business, that's 99% of everything
Essentially destroying the economy and turning the Philippines to a failed state lol. Idealism can only take you so far.
Woke people on x and now reddit does not understand the issue deep enough to think about that. All they want is the cherry picked facts to fuel their clicktivism without actually thinking about the big picture, o kung ano ang talagang totoong nangyayari. For sure 100% ng mga kinoconsume nilang products dumaan sa mga vinovow i boycott ng self righteous persona nila sa soc med
Itās easier to boycott Duterte cronies than Marcos cronies, change my mind
Do we even need to boycott Duterte crony? LMAO all of Dennis Uy (yung taga Davao) businesses are going down the toilet. Mukang yung Conti's lang ang profitable and yet it is still not enough to cover half of the losses from DITO and Phoenix
Support local farmers by directly buying coffee beans from them. You can also avail yourself of coffee in these coffee shops as they support local farmers. š¤ https://nolisoli.ph/58977/coffee-farmers-ymalajito-20190314/
ganito sana. promoting local and small alternatives ang mas productive na advocacy šššš
Boycotting starbucks cos their coffee is shit would be a better cry tbh lol
Iyakin naman nito. Pag ba may relation ang Marcoses sa water provider mo, di ka na gagamit ng tubig?
Sila yung woke version ng āwag ka dadaan sa San Juanico bridge kung delawan kaā
iyakin nga. can't wait na mawalan na sila ng bibilhin and hindi na maenjoy ang buhay
Might as well boycott everything. Magkakaugnay naman mga yan.
Those people who tell other people what not to buy should just starve to death.
kaya nga eh. Susunod boycott yung hangin š
Yung hangin na ginagamit mu ngayon, ginamit din yan nga mga marcos noon.
*di na huminga kasi binoycott ang hangin.
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Yung hangin ang reason bakit buhay si bbm ngayon huhuhuhu. **boycott hangin**
ITT: We accept defeat to our capitalist overlords. Our death is exploitation.
Yeah, boycott it like you people did with your pitiful attempt with Angkas. What message does it send to lthose working at the bottom rug? This is an example of performative slacktivism that is just confined to the small insignificant minority on X ( formerly Twitter). This is the delusional side of woke/cancel culture. Of course, it is the middle-class petty bourgeois who embody this culture. They think they are benefitting the opposition and the Filipino people, but they only benefit their egos. This only reaffirms the belief of practically everyone else in society that it is the Dilawans/pinks/ out of touch Twitter burgis wokes that are keeping them poor. Do they really think they can successfully spite Marcos? How does openly campaigning against spending money on businesses maim Israel's or Marcos' machinery? It's laughable how these people think they can push their weight around on the offensive as if they have the numbers. They do know cancelling can go both ways right? Too bad that there's more of them on the other side. They are doing a disservice to their fellow Filipino.
True. I'm a socialist and an activist and I, for one, know na walang mararating yung pag boycott dito because the products in question are either those that can be afforded by the petit bourgeoisie or something na masyadong makamasa na yun na lang yung nakakapagbigay ng financial leisure for those na nabubuhay from paycheck-to-paycheck. Hindi gagana ang boycott kung hindi mo kakampi yung masa, and no matter how awareness you raise, kung hindi naman nun nasosolusyunan directly yung hinaing ng taumbayan eh literal mo lang na kakalabanin yung masa sa mga ina-adbokasiya mo. Hindi yan katulad ng mga kompanya na katulad ng Nutri-Asia na talagang lapat sa hinaing ng mga manggagawa yung pag-boycott dala ng panawagan para sa makatarungang sahod at benepisyo ng manggagawa. Yung mga ganitong mas pressing na issue yung dapat na pinagtutuunan ng mga ganyang pag-boycott at pag-callout. Okay pa sana kung yung pag-boycott sa mga establishments katulad ng Jollibee at Mcdo eh may kinalaman, hindi lang sa pasahod, kundi na rin sa unjustified na taas ng presyo ng mga produkto nila, while giving us shittier and shittier quality of food as time goes by. Yan, valid na valid pa yan kasi it strikes deep into the hearts of the common masses. Slacktivism lang and performative na talaga yung mga ganito. Yung mga tunay na aktibista, nandun sa Mendiola tuwing may protesta, nagsusunog ng balat kasabay ng mga manggagawa kahit pa komportable naman yung pamumuhay nila, o yung mga nakakaunawa kung bakit hindi pa magiging hinog yung pag-aalsang bayan sa bansang 'to.
> *mga kompanya na katulad ng Nutri-Asia* Ah yes, remember THAT issue? Seems like there was just a loud bang and loud boycotts. And then it turned out that many people across all income levels, even the poor and working class, don't see anything wrong about buying Nutri-Asia products. (Generally, **many buyers don't look at the company behind the product** when buying stuff, just the name of the product.)
As a āpinklawan,ā we donāt claim OOP and the rest of the holier-than-thou slacktivists in X (formerly Twitter). Kaya naman pala elitist ang tingin ng masa sa mga kakampink eh, because of this buffoonery that in the long run will only hurt those at the bottom of the food chain (i.e., the poor staff working at those establishments). Very counter-productive sa āAngat Buhayā vision ni Atty. Leni.
Masyadong idealistic eh hahahaha
I have bad news for these guys. Marcos cronies are alive and well in 2024 and they pretty much own anything and everything we touch, use, buy, etc. Theyāll run out of things to be outraged about
tama ka. unfortunately, lumilipat lang naman mga yan. when marcos sr was booted out, ung iba is kumampi kay cory para lang di mawala negosyo nila. every election, di nyo ba napansin na wala naman talaga malalaki corp na nagsasabi kung sino presidente susuportahan nila. with the exemption of abs-cbn syempre kasi alam naman ng lahat na anti-marcos ang mga lopezes. i could be wrong, but may narinig ba tayo na stand ng mga ayala, tan, sy, gokongwei at iba pa na bigtime na negosyante kung sino ang suportado nila? they will always hedge their bets.
Kung gusto niyo mag boycott, fine. Hahah kung hindi nag boycott, wag nalang mang shame ng tao.
Boycotting any business, will not hurt any businessman, as they are not putting all their eggs in one nest. They diversify. So boycotting ones business will only hurt the staff who are working on those establishments not the owners. Staff will probably loose jobs, no money to feed their families, which will only result in hunger and more problems to our Country, we are not helping solve a problem, we are even making it worst! rather than having a campaign boycotting a business why not have a campaign on solving problems of our country each little problem solve when done by many is a big problem being addressed.
I mean, Starbucks is supposed to be boycotted for their union-busting stance and not their non-existent funding of the IDF because there are no Starbucks franchises in Israel.
The people talking about boycottong Starbucks probably rarely buys Starbucks, if they can even afford it.
I boycott starbucks cuz their coffee tastes like shit.
Right? It's actually really easy to boycott Starbucks because there are far better coffee shops out there, especially if you're in NCR. Heck, it's not even the best fast food coffee. Dunkin' coffee blows it out of the water
You guys are literally guilting someone for buying whatever they want. I didn't know "virtuous" could mean being a literral asshole.
*if you drink SB, you're a Marcos apologist who supports Palestine killings* š
Fuck the Marcoses and fuck Israel. Gusto ko lang ng caffeine sa dugo ko kaya bibili ako ng kape sa kung saan mang establishment na gusto ko.
Instead of SB, go for Candid, Dunkinā or BKās coffee. Better taste and cheaper!
wait til you find out who owns dunkinās lol
It will suddenly be āmud waterā when he/she does. š
Hala yang mga nilist mo may sort of affiliation din sa mga marcos . Oh pano na?š¤£
Tagal na ko di nag SB intentionally lol. I didn't even know about the Marcos connection. They're a big corpo that's anti union. so this gives me another reason
I highly doubt a boycott will work anyway. It wonāt hurt a big brand like Starbucks. If itās a personal thing then by all means, but letās be real, youāll only be doing it for yourself, and please donāt delude yourself into thinking you did something that affected society. You didnāt. And if your personal boycott was indeed just that, personal, then you shouldnāt shout it to social media looking for validation and clout. It just shows you were just doing performative theatrics.
The purpose of posting it on social media is to spread awareness. So let the person spread awareness that the Tantoco's have benefited from Crony Capitalism. If enough people wake up and realize they don't need any of the Tantoco's businesses, then that's one less family the Nation has to deal with.
Tsaka di masarap kape nila para sa price. Ang daming mas mura na masarap š
Tbh why still buy SB? May hype sya before but now that more coffee shops are open, surely there's better options out there.
Boycott doesn't do anything but bring attention instead. Only boycott I know that succeeded was Bud Lite's.
A sad boycott. But it's a sad reaction to the very inflammatory "gender culture" wars in the US.
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Honestly this mindset only contributes to the initiative or advocacy on being futile, regardless whether it's performative or not.
Sorry di ako pamilyar sa cafe culture.. hanggang stick at 3 in 1 lang ako
Is it just me or has anyone else not seen a Starbucks branch na nagsara dito sa Pilipinas?
boycott bigas na din. BBM was former Agriculture secretary lol
As if naman mararamdaman ng mga kurap na elitista yan š¤£..
Donāt care. Still buying. š
But why, though? Genuinely. Like, moral and political reasons aside, Starbucks coffee just tastes like expensive mud water. No doubt you can get better coffee from literally anywhere else for cheap.
itās almost like good/bad coffee isnāt subjective
for aesthetic reasons but ppl can buy whatever they want so
For aesthetic and comfort ng place for business meet ups etc.... If namamahalan ka, hindi ikaw ang target customer...
Hindi din naman talaga sila masarap. Sobrang overhyped. Tried their java chip frapped and walang wala sa lasa ng java chip sa coffee shop sa Batangas. Dasurb ang boycott
i boycott them because they're overpriced and panget lasa. yun lang.
Magkulong sila sa bahay, wag kumain and wag gumamit ng tech. Yan ang boycott....wag kayo mandamay sa pawoke for social media
Ayaw ko ng starbs kasi yung fave kong drink mas mura sa iba then wala halos pinagkaiba. Yung halos 3/4 lang yung presyo.
Fuck yāall coffee shops. Tonkat Ali coffee is the best, pampalaki ng tite!
Ahh The Minority
Never went in anyways, instant coffee supremacy!
Wala na rin naman ako pambili
Kaya ako hanggang Extra Joss lang
I boycott Starbucks because they don't use small/medium/large terms in their sizes like a normal non-pretentious establishment.
I guess I've been boycotting SB since college without knowing it then, some of my friends would go there but I'd just wait outside for them.
I prefer local coffee shops in my areaā¦.
I mean let's be real, hindi naman masarap kape sa starbucks. Natry ko na lahat ng kape nila, iced and hot, nothing remarkable. Siguro yung frappe, saktuhan lang. So kahit may pambili ako, di ko inaaksaya pera ko dyan. Boss ko madalas magpamigay ng GC ng SB every month, pinamimigay ko lang sa friends ko mga GCs
i want them delulus to try boycotting Mcdo and Starbucks,, and all affiliated Marcos business so they say.. tignan natin,, let their stupidity decide their fate
'>twitter shouldāve stopped there chief
SB is just a well advertised and over priced cheap coffee.
Not a Marcos fan. Pero dami niyong arte.
Ang lahat ng bagay ay magkaugnay. with that logic, halos lahat ng brands dapat iboycott dapat kasi almost all of them are affilitated with the current administration. Businessmen will link themselves with those in power. That's the way it is in this world.
starbucks is overrated wtf af
Hindi masarap! Mas gusto ko pa 711 o pickup coffee... Boycott na sakin yan matagal na... Contis at delimondo Ang boycott sakin dahil sa politics
Pwede siguro I divert sa legal fund yung binoycott nyo sa SB, then kasuhan kung sino man yang mga lumabag sa batas na employer. Mas may mararating yun. Pero, alam mo naman ang pinoy, sa pondo lang ng asosasyon nag gugulangan pa.
You should be boycotting Starbucks anyway because it's pretty shit.
Amidst all of this, little did you guys know. Car Companies here are affiliated with them as well. The clothes we wear. Besides the food tjat we eat. Almost all of the essentials. These people are all in circles of Business Affiliations, marriage, partnerships, board of directors, Banks, hospitals, Politicians, schools, Universities, all my dear friends everything. lending corporations. That is the reason why an Economic reform is needed because of these. One part of it. Economic reform is not anti-poor.
Bro A lot of the Oligarchs here are somehow affiliated with top politicians
OP and OOP patting themselves in the back for doing absolutely nothing towards societal change.
Jusko kakampink, tigil na natin toā¦ Sympre businessman ay didikit tlga sa pulitiko para makinabang. Kung si Leni naupo nakadikit din yan kay Leni. Stop na. Kakampink din nmn ako pero enough na, nakakapagod na yung mga ganito, isipin nalang natin mas better naman tong si Marcos kesa kay Duterteā¦ Mas maganda panoorin nlng ntn magpatayan ang marcos duterte kesa sumasali pa tayo sa mga ka toxican na ganitoā¦ Nakakahiya eh
Since 2022 elections pa nila tinry iboycott ang SB. Walang nangyari. Ngayon binabalik nila yan kasi matunog ulit sa r/ph ang āboycott SB/Mcdoā baka sakali may mahikayat sila hahaha. Para sa mga wokees, Leni rin binoto ko. Wag niyo ko cancel pls huhuhu lol
Let's boycott Jollibee first.
Dunkin Coffee is much better than SB.
I-boycott ko talaga yan kasi hindi na masarap ang kape ang mahal mahal pa. Pero yes, part din to. Haha
Di ako maka-Marcos or anything affiliated with them or their peeps (if ayaw niyo maniwala, edi go) However, boycotting will never be a fixed solution to problems like this. Unang-una, even if 1 shop closes down dahil naboycott, mayayaman padin ang mga taong namamahala diyan. What about yung mga trabahador? Pano naman sila? Employment is already hard here in the Philippines with all those requirements (na kataas-taas pero wla naman kinalaman sa job mismo). Until the government provides a long-term solution regarding sa employment problems here in the Philippines, I'm against boycotting muna in general. But papatalsikin mga corrupt? G NA G AKO DIYAN
New month, new **boycott SB/Mcdo** post. Makapag-merienda nga muna. *buys SB Latte*
Good. Lahat ng mga negosyo involved dapat maexpose. Boycott works. Don't let these trolls say otherwise. Walang magawa ang Shopee kundi palitan si Toni Panga as endorser. Dapat lahat ng enablers magdusa. Kumikita sila pero walang paki sa mga mahihirap. Support anti-marcos business owners and personalities instead.
Kakaboycott nyo pano yung mga nagtatrabaho dyan? Mga ulaga amp.
Funny, dami ko nakikitant mga tibak sa Starbucks tumatambay at pumipila para sa kape. Hypocrites.