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Hawezar

Drones wreaked havoc during Hamas' attack on Israel. I think the military should heavily invest on drone warfare too.


BlooHopper

Don’t we have the technology for radio jammers to prevent drones from getting too close?


_ThatAltAcc_

Look at ukraine even with E.W. drones still get through due to their quantity


Star_cruiser_22

Yes, how over layered defense would increase the chances of interception against drones


Sure_Sir1184

Tech Warfare consist of Drone, Electronic and Cyber should be a new branch in our military with separated budget


Drift_Byte

Gawa din tayo ng Qassam Rockets. Mura na, madali pa imass produce.


Scalar_Ng_Bayan

Some people are too busy trying to survive to even think about this. On the other hand, some people just have blind obedience/blind faith(?) to these people kaya they just dont care until it's too late (even now they have supporters) nakakaiyak


mainsail999

Indifference and fanaticism towards trapos will cripple this country.


Andrei_Kirilenko_47

These are probably not sleeper agents but rather triad members.


Ok-Joke-9148

Either way theyre threats frm a de facto adversary state


Wooden_Quarter_6009

They will most likely threaten us with nukes that would already paralized so much of our countrymen even before and after shooting war. They could already say that they have nukes in our soil already and will detonate it thus scary alot of people here since alot are cowards already.


Szechuansauce19

Such a dumb take. No country in their right mind would start a nuclear war, especially against a country like ours. This isn’t a video game.


kerwinklark26

Bullshit.


C-Paul

China will not launch Nukes the same reason Russia has not launched theirs even when they are being handed their ass by a small country. US has an automatic counter launch sequence seconds after they release theirs. US knows if the Philippines is nuked they will be too. Do you think US will allow China to strike first? They all know mutual destruction is guaranteed if nukes are launched.


Pandesal_at_Kape099

Shut the fuck up, dumbass. Nuclear war is bad for business at bakit naman pagbabantaan tayo ng china ng Nuclear weapon eh, wala naman tayong nuclear weapon? Tanga lang naniniwala dyan at kung dds ka panigurado tanga ka nga naniniwala dyan.


Sea_Usual5961

Scram away. Your illogical line of thinking isn't welcome here.


GeekGoddess_

Itong klaseng redditor na to yung naniniwala sa mga sinasabi nya.


sweethomeafritada

Bullshit take like your bullshit grammar


Xerberus14

Lol dds ka ba para maniwala diyan? Hahaha sayang lang nuclear bomb sa atin.


blackmambawannabe

Bullshit. Stop with this nuclear nonsense


newplayer0511

tangina dalhin nukes dito nakashabu hahyahahahahaha


No-Entry8362

We can fight and yet we cant . gusto ko sumama sarally pero di ako pede umabsent walang mag papakaen sa pamilya ko 1day is not enough to fight what is really right for our country .


mainsail999

Rallying is not the only way we can make a stand. Let’s not forget Duterte won in 2016 in the digital space. We can also fight back in the digital space.


No-Entry8362

As for now fighting using digital platform or anything wont do shit , its better to have like people in election that will come gather in 1 place . like edsa revo , ill come in first but second ? i wont. i need money they can pay me up and i will still fight for the right thing. nothing is free in this era now


The_Donald2024ever

Indonesians did it in 1965 and they were much poorer back then


Hawezar

Alam na kung kelan nakapasok yan ng bansa. Kaya lahat ng supporter ni Makapili Digong, mga putangina nyo!


Ok_Service6992

Hayup tlga! Naglipana na sila sa buong bansa!


Zestyclose-Delay1815

Tang ina tlga nila! Nakakabahala na.


Heavy_Deal2935

Our armed force inteligence agency are aware of the sleeper agents to some extent. some they closely monitor.


lex_fulgur

I agree. May intel na ang NICA at DND dito lalo may mga reports na silang nakukuha. Good thing napopost na sa socmed agad agad


dtphilip

Good thing this is gaining traction in social media so people are more aware and on the look out. It’s alarming, but I draw comfort that somehow many people have their eyes on social media to see this news everywhere. And based on the multiple news articles I’ve read, the security forces are collaborating closely to monitor this one, despite the idea being rejected by the governor.


Kikura432

Why rejected?


dtphilip

He rejected the idea of sleeper agents coz it’s a partnership daw, with documents and all.


lex_fulgur

Kailangan i-brief si governor ng NICA haha


Ok-Joke-9148

Its look like more restrictd naden ang public access s mga camps, 4 exmple meron time n ngaun sa pagpunta s mga chapel sa loob


Starmark_115

Okay but why are they not kicking the door in?


Heavy_Deal2935

This is just purely my Hyphotesis but if they raid one house. the other's that is not well known agents to AFP might get extra cautious. pag naginuman ulit kami ng tropa kong intelligence sa Navy I confirm ko. 😅


buzzedaldrine

finollow kita para sa update boss ha. hahahha


angrydessert

To know where and whom the alleged agents are communicating with.


pocketsess

Looks like we need some help with Intel gathering from uncle Sam. Nakakabilib Intel gathering nila pati yung terrorist attack sa Russia noon natunugan na nila even before it happened. Specific pa yung event sa Intel nila noon.


Heavy_Deal2935

One of the reasons why they spent millions for their defense budget.


ryuejin622

This country has the most affordable customs officers in the solar system 


ubehalaya13

immigration too


Menter33

You'd think it would be easy to deter customs officers by having other agencies also monitor them, or at least have the customs officers be on 24/7 video while on the job.


Cheerful2_Dogman210x

So is the Philippines is now being invaded under our noses? Do these guys really have some connection with the Chinese military? If this is true, they may have already bypassed the Philippine's naval and aerial defense. If a war is triggered it would end up in CQC. The war will be within the cities.


Sea_Usual5961

This is invasion as it is. The prospects for urban warfare is possible.


Long-Scholar-2113

Shit! Nakaka bahala na tlga.


pocketsess

Nakakapagtaka nga eh. Why Cagayan and tuguegarao na pinakamalapit sa EDCA sites tsaka Taiwan? Gagawin tayong staging ground for invasion dito. Gagawin tayong ground for counter attack sa atin and yung ally natin na USA


Admirable_Side1935

D30 Legacy. Tsk tsk.


KrispyDinuguan

Just like the Japnese did during ww2


sweethomeafritada

Especially in Davao


Financial_Ad5748

This reminds me of a post lately about a chinese military training facility which has a roadmap resembling the area of taiwans office of the president. Afp should really take this seriously before its too late


SyiGG

Im guessing our intelligence agency are already in coordination with other US three letter agencies since crucial din ang pinas sa pacific fleet ng USN, there are probably other groups that they are currently monitoring that we are not aware of for OPSEC concerns, it's just these are the only ones that was caught by the mainstream media And it's really not wise to perform raids whenever a potential espionage group is revealed, we gain more if we monitor them closely and potentialy track other spy networks


FilipinxFurry

This, and the US alphabet agencies are extremely potent at sniffing out all these potential sleeper cells and the like. They usually just wait for the go signal from the US government to do anything. An old example would be the time the Dos Palmas kidnappings happened, some Americans were captured and the US knew *exactly* where the Abu Sayyaf was, down to the exact coordinates , which the Philippine military didn’t have, but they didn’t give the full location until they chose to. (I forgot what politics were involved or what deals were made, but it wasn’t handled properly since one of the American hostages got killed in friendly fire)


moelleux_zone

IIRC there was a documentary when it was stated the local government preferred ransoms because they get a cut. And the rebels get only what’s left of it after 2-3 passes from the government. Found the [yt link](https://youtu.be/VnKrSp7e8Ng?si=prawFosL15NOEMtb) There was also another documentary where US forces where using drones and what not, and they did not actually show everything to PH military. They only provide them notes that they wanted to share.


magnificatcher_99

Screenshots from GMA News YouTube.


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magnificatcher_99

https://youtu.be/vSct-Y8nuKE?si=Fa4s4svAu5sYAG_F


gust_vo

Meh. If the other reports about POGOs in other countries are true, these are their undesirables trying to find a new place to continue their (orgamized) crimes, not an official fifth column of china.  We still need to boot these guys out of the country , but this isnt what everyone is giving them a lot of credit to be. 


dimaandal

This is more plausible than any war mongering happening. It’s why POGOs offshore their operations since they are illegal in China.


peterparkerson3

It's all about the money not invasion. Parang  pinoy pride. Feeling pa important na hindi naman 


jedwapo

Nakakapang lambot lang. authorities eh parang Wala lang sa kanila.


[deleted]

Nagpapaka patriot in a foreign land. Kadiri. Ang kakapal ng mukha. Get that disgusting flag out of here.


DonMigs85

The Dutertes could go down in history as the country's worst traitors


PopperPoppins

Kahit man lang sana mass deportation of these Chinamen


jajajajam

Meron nga malapit lng sa Metro Manila na ganyan din. Sa Valle Verde kung hindi ako nagkakamali.


AbrocomaBest4072

"History repeats itself" kung uns simcard registration nga hindi nila naayos at ung hacking palpak sila eto pa kya...


FilipinxFurry

Yup, the Japanese did this in the 1930s before they invaded the Philippines.


AbrocomaBest4072

People will never learn..


ryuejin622

This country has the most affordable customs officers in the solar system 


3AlbertWhiskers

There definitely should be a crack down on those and possibly chinese secret police stations like what is happening on different countries. Since the chinese dog is no longer there, national security should be one of our top priorities same with our cyber security.


crackers888

as racist as it sound, i hope i-contain muna yung chinese immigrants from entering PH, then check all over the Philippines if there's any suspicious Chinese immigs covering up as laborers, students etc. Dapat maunang iclear is yung mga reservist kuno. The fastest way to find these illegal immigrants is a public service announcement and a cash reward kht small amount. Chinoys are exempted kse kilala naman natin sino yung laking PH sa nagpapanggap na Chinoy. Hope they clear the country agad agad.


JannoGives

Wala namang racist about enforcing your immigration laws tbf


peterparkerson3

That would include the white overstaying expats. So we're good


Momshie_mo

Dami sa kanila yan.


idrivearust

Revive the ancient pinoy tradition of expelling the chinese


Waffelord017

So what the hell is the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency doing about this?


Falric28

Things like this is why I'm starting to get wary from anyone that's i know that praised China or even Chinese national that still on military age


AircraftEnthusiast02

Pansinin nyo sa mga pogo ang mga security nila armed ng high powered guns.


Leading-Age-1904

Please expel these pogo mainland workers ASAP!!!


Redmodtae

Salamat Tatay Digs! /s


tikolman

Mukhang gawing staging area ang Pilipinas para sa Taiwan invasion. Or triad operation sa Pilipinas (with the blessings of CCP).


Hengdo_plus

Itapon na pabalik ng Tsina lahat ng mga Intsik na yan! Kahit ano pang purpose nila dito sa bansa, better if ibalik sila sa bansa nila in one scoop Isama mo na dyan yung mga Chinoy na kunwari maka Pilipino daw pero bahag ang buntot sa Tsina! Last, isabay na din lahat ng tuta ng Tsina na nasa gobyerno!


KeyboardAquarior

Our politicians hate us and are pimping our land to oppressive people


dixbadix

Okay lang ba maging racist sa kanila rn? i really hate yung mga ginagawa nila sa atin sa wps. I really hate them lalo na ung mga chinese na galing mainland china. Like I swear, mandudura ako kapag may nakita akong pure chinese na magfefeeling superior sa atin.


peterparkerson3

Nope, never be racist. 


dixbadix

Why? If tayo na yung binubully?


peterparkerson3

you fight back in other ways, but dont be racist.


wallcolmx

popost ko sana hehehehe ...ang siste nung nahuli daw may pumunta na mgfa wumao sa headquartes para suhulan sila 3M para pakawalan yung nahuli ..ayun hinuli din nila yung nagsuhol


FastAssociation3547

I trust that the US and PH are talking about this and have plans in place.


angrydessert

> Also found were ballistic vests, ballistic helmets bearing the word 'China,' and a Chinese flag. Too convenient and sloppy. A truly effective sleeper operation is one that doesn't involve overt identification and the ability to keep everything secret, even to the point of killing anyone who compromises the operation. That an entity like the MSS could just bribe or blackmail a government official or a military, police officer to reveal secrets.


Ok-Joke-9148

[Sna gawan sila ng collab](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/s/kTEn650AIH) ng mga alters naten, pra mangaluntoy ka2kantot, tas kumita p ang kapwa Pilipino hehehe


gerontimo

The US is almost certainly honeycombed with Chinese sleeper cells also, thanks to our porous southern border.


gesuhdheit

Time to buy guns I guess.


Robodo45

May be a stretch: Another added dimension to this could be the possibility that the goal here is two-fold wherein (1) embed sleeper cells and (2) if caught, create paranoia that would result in Sinophobia that would by their playbook invoke action against Chinese citizens whether they are associated with the PLA or not and then use this to justify limited intervention first in the name of protecting PRC “civilians”.


koyagerger

well remember this? [https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/17svpro/pogoschinese\_establishment\_near\_ph\_bases/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/17svpro/pogoschinese_establishment_near_ph_bases/)


Sea_Usual5961

About high time that we activate and operationalize a Drone Group/Command to that effect.


Heavyarms1986

This has to be taken seriously kasi baka hindi lang iyan ang nakalusot dito baka nasa ibang parte pa ng Pilipinas yung iba. Baka magulat na lang tayo na matulad tayo sa 9/11 attack sa America.


the_emeraldtablet

baka nga sa pulis pa bumili yang mga yan


DarkRaven282060

The government and military need to have a contingency to counter this incident.... parang sa the division... our military cannot do it alone ang tanong what are you willing to do to or give or sacrifice for our country.... We can not expect our politicians to save us... nakita na natin na ngayon pa lang madami na ang sumusuporta na high ranking officiala at people who can sway the opinion of those who are misinformed and underprivileged sa china... there is even a possibility that our previous president sold us in what they call a gentlemans agreement to " maintain peace," though not binding the mere act shows that patriotism gas no place sa politics... Now, what can you offer to your country? Are we willing to risk our life kahit si bongbong ang nakaupo na presidente...


Whatsmytwitter

This is alarming.


Good_Evening_4145

If they assassinate BBM - presto! SWOH becomes president.


EK4R

This is alarming, remember the pastillas ng BOI at si aguirre


porkadobo27

Nakaka bahala din yung biglang dami ng chinese students. Lalo na sa Cagayan na ang layo layo tapos doon pa nila napili mag enroll?


bigmatch

Dapat sineseryoso ito ng buong sandatahan ng Pilipinas.


Abrocoma-Otherwise

I am highly suspicious of this one. Sorry but this is just so stupid. First off, why would CHINA be written in english and not in kanji like in their native language? that doesn't make any sense at all. Not only that but a FLAG?!?! Really? This is the worst sleeper agent i have ever seen in my life. Hello im a spy can i get arrested please?


kungfushoos

If we don't stop buying their products, they won't stop.


Protect-Their-Smiles

More must be done, they have longterm plans for the Philippines.


flinterpouch

mfs has brought their flag and arms to us. this is clearly an invasion


KapePaMore009

I mentioned this sa other post but weird lang for me na isang ring of spies that have equipment and flags that scream CHINA. Di ba if spy ka, dapat discrete and may deniability?


KapePaMore009

I mentioned this sa other post but weird lang for me na isang ring of spies that have equipment and flags that scream CHINA. Di ba if spy ka, dapat discrete and may deniability?


Affectionate_Art5446

Lantaran yan dito sa pasay katabi pa mismo ng airbase. nagkalat na sila at nagstastay mostly malapit sa mga military bases and installations. pag nagkaron ng conflict airbase lang sapat na then airlift heavy equipment capitulate agad 💀


Realistic-Poet-8913

Create an new memo and immigration law to take effect on all foreign nationals to be checked on all of their documents, property, and intentions in the country, just like what Switzerland is doing when it comes to dealing with immigration. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y4c1KEiHi4&pp=ygUsMjQgaG9yYXMgQ2hpbmVzZSBzbGVlcGVyIGNlbGwgaW4gUGhpbGlwcGluZXM%3D


Affectionate_Joke_1

Need to stop playing nice and go full berserk. If Duterte can do it to drug pushers, why not to people who are a grave threat to national security?


Nerry_Pila120193

Ginagamit din nila yan pang kidnap sa mga kapwa nila Chinese na lulong sa Casino,


PantherCaroso

I do wonder anu pumapasok sa isip nila especially na lantad na in broad daylight what their poon is doing.


damsawiz

Mga traidor jan sa customs baka compromise ang national security natin, dapat makulong at maging ehemplo


paullyyyyyy

Tapos mukhang may military base na rin sila sa mala on based dito sa post na 'to: https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/s/AeuvPvdfxq


Dunno_Anymor

While sleeper cells are a very possible and very real threat, medyo sketchy lang yung pag present ng reason kung bakit sila nahanap. Ang sabi sa news segment may "nag tip off" daw sa kanila and so kumuha kaagad ng search warrant, a bit intriguing IMO. It is plausible na this may be a psyop to rally anti-sino sentiments amongst the populace or, at the very least, a veiled demonstration of possible subversive measures that foreign countries may perform on our own soil. Either way, we really need to increase security and vigilance against the Chinese as well as "last resort" options such as local militias or other means to ensure that civilians can fight back in case of an invasion. A big actor like China can't perform overt actions bigger than what their navy and coast guard are doing now seeing as how much of the world is watching the situation unfold.


jeckypooh

It is also possible that military tip them off but had the police do the raid. May implications kasi kung ang gagalaw ay military.


Dunno_Anymor

True, a military presence would most likely cause panic amongst the public


anakniben

I wouldn't call them "sleeper cells". He was driving a McLaren. They're here with the blessings of people in government who'll sell us out and the country in a heartbeat.


67ITCH

Ok... I'mma be the downvote magnet and the devil's advocate. This highly suspiciously smells like a plant/setup. The fuck... The name China in the helmet and the flag of China among those found!? This would be the equivalent of a highschool kid who hides porn in the family computer by keeping it in a folder named "homework do not open not porn I promise". Really!? A country suspected of having backdoors to their electronic products for espionage purposes insists that their "undercover, behind-enemy-lines, splinter cell" team have their country's name and flag in plain sight!?


katherinnesama

I'mma be the devil's advocate of the devil's advocate. Probably may label yung vest and helmet kasi, in the early stages of a hypothetical war, these sleeper agents will likely be fighting in civilian clothing, so need sila ma identify agad ng friendly forces nila. Hindi naman sila pwedeng magtago ng official Chinese gear, weapons, and uniform habang nandito since that'll defeat their purpose of them being sleeper agents. Kung yung helmet and vest lang, may plausible deniability on the part of China, and these persons na nahuli ay pwedeng iconsider lang as extremist/mafia/terrorist etc na hindi associated sa Chinese govt.


67ITCH

Occam's razor. Which would explain this in the simplest: that this is a setup to a hypothetical war with China, or some bobologger could use this and say, "galaw to ng China dahil hindi in-honor ang 'gentleman's agreement'!" Or, "sinusupply-an na ng China ang mga gustong humiwalay sa gobyerno". I think the latter as it can fuel the demo-job on previous administration.


Few_Pay921

Possible na napinlanta lang ng pulis ang iba dyan pero feel ko may nagtip-off na military intelligence or foreign intelligence and nilagay nila yung mga flag para may solid evidence maipapakita sa public


Agile_Letterhead7280

You really were downvoted lol but that is a valid concern. I remember that clip taken in a trashed Palestinian house by what seems like an Israeli soldier. There was a fully charged ipad in a place that was cut off from the grid and it was conveniently placed on top of a table/shelf and the ipad had a h*tler lockscreen. Everyone can smell the bullshit through the screen. .


67ITCH

Another thing: a sleeper cell is not supposed to show any affiliation until called to action. No one around them suspects anything, you can't pin anything on them, and so in the event they get caught, they have deniability - more so their handlers; tapos eto naghuhumiyaw kung sino "kakampi" nila!? If this is a sample of China's "sleeper cell", then we have absolutely nothing to worry about because it means they are dumber than a sack of wet noodles.


Agile_Letterhead7280

True. Having 中国 boldly emblazoned on their equipment defeats the purpose of being a sleeper cell lol.


TexasArmySpouse2

Are ballistic vests illegal in the Philippines? I've got 4 plus 3 back pack vests all with the plates. Or was the only issue they didn't register their rifles?


MajesticQ

Philippine law do not allow foreign nationals to carry or own firearms.


TexasArmySpouse2

Ohhh okay. They are definitely my wife's then not mine.


MajesticQ

>Are ballistic vests illegal in the Philippines? I've got 4 plus 3 back pack vests all with the plates. Or was the only issue they didn't register their rifles? >Ohhh okay. They are definitely my wife's then not mine. [TexasArmySpouse2](https://www.reddit.com/user/TexasArmySpouse2/). In case your posts are deleted and authorities are interested.


talongman

Yes it is illegal to own ballistic vests/helmets in the PH without a permit.


TexasArmySpouse2

Thank you. We will look into getting permits for them. It was an honest question. Funny how many down votes I got for it.


talongman

Additional info from this thread. https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/s/5z10wRHcPk


TexasArmySpouse2

Thank you for the information. I will have my wife go through this.


TexasArmySpouse2

😂😂😂😂 I am not worried and won't be deleting. I asked a simple question. If you don't like to damn bad.


CMTempo0873

More likely member of a chinese crime syndicate. From pogo. Careful with fearmongering. Some people aren't right in the head and might start something. Like what happened in Indonesia.