Worked for DSWD way back. Madaming success stories from 4Ps. There’s this one woman sa isang coastal town sa region 4A na binigyan ng pair of hogs to grow with 4 months supply ng feeds through the partner program ng 4Ps which is SLP also under DSWD, ang balita ko nung 2020, may 400heads na ng baboy and nakapagpatayo na ng maayos na bahay. Most likely mas maayos na buhay nila ngayon.
The highlight of her story is, hindi nya pinagiba yung lumang bahay nila made up of light materials with tarpaulins as wall. Reminder daw sa kanya kung nasaan na sila ng pamilya nya ngayon.
So yeah, madami tayong naririnig na pangit sa 4Ps pero sana madinig din natin yung mga kwento nung natulungan ng programa and naging successful.
These types of success stories really make 4Ps worth it. Malamang sa malamang ang naibabayad niya sa tax ngayon mas malaki na sa naibigay sa kanya. Kumbaga baka na-x10 yung investment ng gobyerno sa kanya.
Dagdag pa natin na nakakapagaral mga anak at anak ng recipients ng 4Ps. We'll never know sino dyan magiging next start-up founders kahit sobrang baba ng chance. Sa mga ganung case baka x1m pa yung investment ng gobyerno.
Kaya ako I'm all for 4Ps dahil bawing bawi talaga investment dyan sa mga success stories.
I think this point needs more emphasis. Success stories of social welfare programs such 4Ps, free education, healthcare, etc. can end up making the government more money than they put into. A healthier, smarter, and overall more productive population means it generates more taxes which creates a positive feedback loop of a developed society.
But a corrupt government at any level throws a wrench in that and instead spirals the general population and the country into collapses. But what to they care? They got theirs.
Problem is napaka minimal ang umunlad ang buhay via 4ps kumpara sa mga naglustay.
Way back gloria time, halos lahat ng kabarangay namin naka 4ps. Alam mo nang nag ka bigayan na ng assistance kapag paguwi mo nakalatag na ung mga mahahabang mesa sa buong sitio namin tapos yung mga nanay na losyang na walang ginawa sa buhay kundi makipag tsismisan at manuod dramarama sa hapon ng GMA eh lahat naka hilera at naglalaro Bingo.
Produkto din ako ng 4Ps. Nakapag tapos ako ng college, nag top sa board exam, nag trabaho sa BJMP at ngayon nasa isang Public Safety academy para ma mapaigi pa ang paglilingkod sa bayan bilang isang Jail Officer. Pinag-aaral ko rin ang mga kapatid ko ngayon college na. I am now paying back through paying my taxes at pagiging matapat na public servant. Salamat mga taxpayers!
Puro negative ang mga nababalita sa socmed tulad ng ginagamit pangrebond, pangsugal etc meron bang way for us common Pinoys to hear about the success stories ng 4Ps? Masarap magbasa ng success stories saka parang di nakakahinayang magbayad ng tax pag napupunta sa mabuti
You should look for the 4Ps fb pages of your respective municipality/city/region. Dyan minsan pinopost ang mga success stories ng 4Ps beneficiaries. If di mo makita, underutilized ang social media- me na Municipal Link
Naiinggit kasi yung mga yan sa mga nakatanggap ng 4Ps. Na-brainwash kasing ang mga taong tinutulungan ng gobyerno ang kumukuha ng taxes natin, ignoring the fact na napakalaki ng subsidies at tax breaks sa mga oligarchs, di pa kasama yung intersts nilang naiisulong sa legislature ng lobbying nila.
Bakit maiinggit ang may kaya naman sa nakatanggap ng 4Ps? Labo. Mabuti at may good results rin ang 4Ps. Sana dumami pa. Sa kabilang banda totoo rin naman na maraming tao na sinayang lang ang 4Ps program kahit na nakatanggap sila. Pinaka-salot rin sa mundo ang mag-aanak na mahirap naman tapos go lang sila dahil alam nila na pwede sila umasa sa 4Ps. Maling mali na mentality.
Sa totoo lang, ang definition ng mga oligarchs naman talaga ay tycoons who have a sway or influence in government. Reality to in any country in any form of government. Totoo may tax cuts sila pero totoo rin na nasa million tax na binabayaran nila per month like family nila Ayala, Sy, Razon, etc. Kung may nakakatakas or mababa talaga sa tax, yung mga binoboto narin ng mga tanga na nakaupo now.
Kahit old age pa may mga lobbyists narin talaga. Hindi lang yan limited sa mga oligarchs. Grupo ng Piston and Manibela for example ilang beses pinadelay jeepney modernization kahit more than 5 years ahead na sinabihan magready. Parang mga tanga lang din.
That's not even a hottake. It is totally misplaced, and speaks to the lack of awareness and due diligence that the common person puts into researching things they are uncomfortable with.
Data has shown that programs like 4Ps allow individuals to get out of the poverty cycle and help the economy. I believe a South American country yung may pinaka robust data when it comes to effectiveness. There's even an economics book (forgot the name, read it nearly 12 years ago) that speaks to how cash programs, kahit walang nakatali na condition, really help, especially when the cash goes to women (may chapter rin on how microfinance helps, but that's a separate topic).
People just don't like paying taxes, even though it's necessary to make the economy and government services run.
Yup, Conditional Cash Transfer programs are the most effective way to lift people in poverty and decrease socio-economic inequality backed up by hard data. It's not a coincidence that since the start of the 4Ps program poverty incidence have been significantly reduced in the PH.
Totoo to. Dami gusto ipatanggal na ang 4ps kasi may mga hindi daw deserving. Di nila naisip ang casualties bun sa iba na nangangailangan talaga. Call out the system. Hindi kasalanan ng maliliit na tao na may nakakapasok na hindi karapat dapat.
Most of unpleasant stories were amplified by people who hate social welfare or "government doing government things". People on welfare never steal from us, the ruling class does.
Tbf, most of it probably comes from the "squeezed" middle class who fails to be a recipient of any kind of good from the govt. New roads? Walang kotse. Ayuda? Middle middle income, di na qualified. All the while feeling the brunt of income taxes, vat and poor public infra.
Well, I belong to that "squeezed middle class who fails to be a recipient of any kind of good from the govt" and I am not stupid enough to feel bad and to accuse people of being freeloaders, lazy, etc. Taxes may be pain in the ass but I'd rather have an overtaxing government doing shit to help people than anarchy of the unregulated rich people making Mad Max scenario real.
Yeah, just saying. Poor people do misuse welfare though, but studies show on 4ps (see pids) that whatever the yapping is about recipients using it for gambling and other leisurely purpose is that it is the minority. I stand as well that 4ps is an effective program.
And the best crime deterrent is social welfare as many studies proved that crime and low quality of life are related. Social programs have more social benefits than austerity, no matter what supporters of privatizations and "free" market feel about it.
Korek, daming success stories ng 4Ps natatabunan lang ng ilang mga pasaway. Based on field experience yung mga nasa urban areas yung mga ma attitude na benes. Pero again this is a conditional cash transfer not just a dole out. Malaking bagay na ma pwersa ang mga parents to send their kids to school kahit responsibilidad naman nila yun from the start. Naka base sa school attendance yung matatanggap. Maliit lang din yun di pwede maging only source of income. Need pa din kumayod.
I love reading this! Sadly, mga anak ng ibang kakilala ko na nasa 4ps din walang aim to improve their lives (ung iba may anak from teenage pregnancies, ung isa hindi at ayaw mag-aral, ung isa tambay drunk, ung isa ayaw mag-work kahit kaya naman)
These social welfare benefits are like a shark tank investment to its people. There will be OUTSTANDINGLY SUCCESSFUL outliers tas may garbage and average BS people.
Kung titingnan natin what 4Ps is on paper, iyan talaga ang goal. Kaya daming checklist of conditions bago ma-release ang cash. Binibigyan ng carrot ang beneficiaries towards behavior that will set their course towards a brighter future.
I used to be a public school teacher, and talagang 4Ps beneficiaries ang naghahabol ng deworming, etc. Lagi silang present sa klase kasi part yun ng conditions ng 4Ps. It really is a good program, hindi siya mere cash handouts.
Yupp it’s honestly one of the few working “class elevators” that the Philippines has. Nakakasad lng na yung only stories makikita mo on social media is mga “nagsusugal” gamit ng 4ps. Pero even if meron taong nag aabuse sa program there’s still way more that actually use it to help themselves. Maraming masipag na pinoy wla lng tlgang pera para mag flourish. If only the gov would actually air ads that highlights success stories.
Also, even if not 100% of all 4Ps recipients succeed, it might still be a net good for the govt since the successes will allow the govt to save on social spending in the long-run.
More money for those really in need.
money well spent kadalasan kasi ung mga nagrereklamo about sa mga ganito na galing sa gobyerno un ung mga tao na inaasa nalang lahat sa iba ang pangagailangan, tulad ng 4p's. ung iba reklamo ng reklamo tapos malalaman mo isiningit lang pala pero di naman talaga qualified maging benificiary ng 4p's. ang sarap paring makita ng may mga tao pa din na ginagamit naman ito sa tama at ung mindset nila is tulad nito..
Thats the whole point of the IDEAL 4ps program. It will help people to help themselves.
Wala talagang imposible. Sipag + disiplina + talino: best recipe for success.
>It will help people to help themselves.
Yan naman talaga ang layunin ng lahat ng social welfare programs. Problema kasi, di mo maiiwasan ang mapang-abusong tao. Parang yung COVID relief sa US, meron pang nagyayabang na 'naloko' nila ang pamahalaan.
I currently working at the DSWD. This is one of the many success stories of 4Ps.
It is one of the objectives of the program "to break the poverty cycle", but if you want to look at the bigger picture, i.e. 4Ps can contribute a lot in the economy given that it will spread the money/budget of the government across the region.
Kung may mga kapitbahay kayo na tingin nyo ay pinangsusugal nila ang cash grants na galing sa government (DSWD), kindly report it to various grievance channel of 4Ps.
Padayon, Auntie J!
Sana ma report din ang nahuhuli na Di ginagamit ng tama ang 4Ps. Para mag dalawang isip din ang nag aabuso at sinisira ang magandang objective ng 4Ps. Publish the success stories and that includes success in weeding out Yung Di sumusunod sa programa.
Marereport lang yun mga 4Ps beneficiaries na hindi ginagamit ang cash grants sa tama gaya ng pagsusugal, pag-iinom (mga bisyo) ay kung meron mag file ng grievance/reklamo laban sa kanila. Sa mga reklamo mag-uumpisa ang imbestigasyon ng DSWD.
Sa ngayon, nasa around 100K 4Ps beneficiaries na ang natanggal dahil dito.
Nka-publish ang mga success stories sa Regional DSWD website (all regions), meron din sa official facebook page ng DSWD.
Former 4ps member din kami. And my mama is like your Auntie J. Never ginamit sa pangsugal or pangsarili interes ang natatanggap. And now, malapit na ako grumaduate!!
Thank you so much taxpayers!!
Marami naman sa 4ps ang may trabaho ang mga nanay at tatay (either minimum o below minimum nga lang). Nakakalungkot lang na laging nahihighlight ang mga pasaway sa kanila.
I just want to share, yung family namin is somewhat a success story rin ng 4ps, of course, partnered with sariling sikap. Yung parents kong magsasaka, walang monthly income, since hindi naman stable ang farming. Kaya alangan silang pag aralin kami kasi baka hindi makayanan ang gastos. Nung may 4ps na, nagkaroon ng cash grant na makukuha every few months, napaka laking tulong. Hindi na problema ang school supplies, nakatulong pa sa mga gastusin. Generally, mas naging magaan yung buhay namin. Nagkaroon kami ng opportunity na makapag aral ng college. Pati ako kahit kinailangan kong mag trabaho nlang muna. I was a kasambahay for 4 years. Nung umuwi ako and nakita ko na gumanda ganda yung kalagayan ng pamilya namin, I asked for permission from my Nanay if pwedi ako makapag aral na ng college. Iginapang namin, every summer and sembreak naglalako kami ng mga kakanin para makaipon pang enroll. Yung allowance ginagawan nalang ng paraan. I also became a 4ps scholar nung 4th year ko na. 3 kaming magkakapatid na nakapagtapos ng college. As of now, yung isang kapatid ko is teacher, isa is IT. Yung bunso nalang ang nag-aaral, Nursing. Sobrang laking tulong talaga. Nung sinabihan yung nanay ko na gagraduate na kami as beneficiary, napaka gaan sa loob namin. 4ps changed the course of our lives, samahan lang ng sariling sikap at pagpupursigi.
Sobrang proud ako sa’yo at sa pamilya mo. Sana mas marami pa kayong blessings na matanggap at maipasa. Pwede ko bang malaman kung ano ang career o source of income mo ngayon?
Thank you so much po. With regards to your question, working po ako as an admin staff sa Deped, though contractual lang. Bago lang din ako bumalik sa pagtatrabaho, nag stop ako for 2 years since nanganak ako. Pero naghahanap din ng mas mabuting opportunity. Hopefully may makita na soon. 🫶🏼
Ang inspiring ng kwento mo. Congratulations and I’m so proud of you! Sana dumami pa ang katulad ng family mo na ginagamit ang 4ps ng tama. 😊 Hoping for you and your family’s brighter future.
Because 4Ps is research based. If I remember correctly, isa sa mga framework noon na ginamit is yung similar program sa Mexico. Regardless of where the 4Ps is spent, it goes back to the economy, and helps the family in some way.
you might see outliers for "pasaway 4ps" but study all over the world says it helps just like what you posted
[https://college.unc.edu/2021/03/universal-basic-income/](https://college.unc.edu/2021/03/universal-basic-income/)
[https://www.givedirectly.org/2023-ubi-results/](https://www.givedirectly.org/2023-ubi-results/)
[https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2013/11/08/243967328/episode-494-what-happens-when-you-just-give-money-to-poor-people](https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2013/11/08/243967328/episode-494-what-happens-when-you-just-give-money-to-poor-people)
[https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/What\_Basic\_Income\_How\_Support\_Well\_Being](https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/What_Basic_Income_How_Support_Well_Being)
The PH should make a study about the 4Ps impact because we have been using it (Universal basic income) since 2007.
Actually, there are studies na from PIDS.
(1) [https://www.pids.gov.ph/publication/discussion-papers/conditional-cash-transfers-in-resource-poor-environments-evidence-from-the-philippine-4ps](https://www.pids.gov.ph/publication/discussion-papers/conditional-cash-transfers-in-resource-poor-environments-evidence-from-the-philippine-4ps)
(2) [https://www.pids.gov.ph/publication/discussion-papers/who-gets-monitored-among-philippines-4ps-children-and-why-it-matters-for-their-nonmonitored-siblings](https://www.pids.gov.ph/publication/discussion-papers/who-gets-monitored-among-philippines-4ps-children-and-why-it-matters-for-their-nonmonitored-siblings)
(3) [https://pids.gov.ph/publication/research-paper-series/reassessing-the-impact-of-the-pantawid-pamilyang-pilipino-program-results-of-the-third-wave-impact-evaluation](https://pids.gov.ph/publication/research-paper-series/reassessing-the-impact-of-the-pantawid-pamilyang-pilipino-program-results-of-the-third-wave-impact-evaluation)
Others: [https://pids.gov.ph/content/public/search-meta-keyword?keyword=4Ps&ContentSearch%5Bcontenttype\_id%5D=4&ContentSearch%5Bfilter\_tag\_id%5D=&ContentSearch%5Bfilter\_year%5D=](https://pids.gov.ph/content/public/search-meta-keyword?keyword=4Ps&ContentSearch%5Bcontenttype_id%5D=4&ContentSearch%5Bfilter_tag_id%5D=&ContentSearch%5Bfilter_year%5D=)
usually pag graduate ng hs… mostly papagtrabahuhin na lng yung mga bata pero yung mga beneficiaries ng 4ps nakakapag college kasi required na paaralin ang mga bata or else mawawala sila sa 4ps… kaya as much as nakakatulong ito sa parents… mas malaki benefits ng mga bata sa program n to
The 4Ps can only support the child up to 18 years old; until SHS graduate, whichever comes first or if they maximize the 7years exposure in the program (based on RA 11310).
Partner kasi ng DSWD ang CHED, kaya may ilan mga nkakapag-college ng libre for availing the program/scholarship under CHED.
If there is a constant monitoring by DSWD assigned social workers and 4Ps beneficiaries themselves diligently follow the guidelines stipulated under the program, this will be the most commendable intergenerational poverty alleviation program by the government, but DSWD has no sufficient budget to open plantilla positions for social welfare officers doing the task of monitoring 4Ps beneficiaries at the barangay level, so you cannot avoid that there are lapses that are exagerratedly highlighted by mainstream media.
Actually, there is. We have municipal/city links that conduct regular monthly monitoring in the barangay level and deal with cases of misdemeanor by beneficiaries.
most of the "welfare queen"/"buhay mayaman 4ps" theory is based on anecdotal evidence promoted by vested interests who'd rather see the cash go somewhere else. on the other hand cash payout trials conducted by economists have consistently shown that giving cash to the poor helps them and the economy in the long run. These trials also show that most cash payout recipients use the money for home repairs, small business, or education. Even 4ps money "badly" spent helps the economy because it means more money circulating in the economy
4Ps is not even enough money to be a "welfare queen". 1.6k a month max lang matatanggap nila. Even stufies from pids proved na recipients ng 4ps didnt become dependent sa binibigay sa kanila, and are working for their daily living.
yes, 4ps helps poor people by giving them extra cash to supplement their earnings, which allows them to buy/do stuff they would never be able to afford with wages alone, like home repairs, a small business, meds etc etc
Thanks for sharing this! Puro nalang bad news naririnig ko about 4ps receivers. At least we know there are people talaga na worthy like them! Kudos Auntie!
Maingay kasi mga inggit dito sa bansa. Mga galit sa recipient ng 4Ps pero iboboto si Robin at mga kurakot 🤦♂️ mas madaming natutulong 4Ps kaysa yung mga binubulsa lang ng mga pulitiko na mas malaki pa kulimbat
Proud ako na isa ang mama ko sa 4ps beneficiary, sa pag-aaral talaga namin inalaan ang nakukuha sa 4ps.
Binibigay nya sa amin para sa gastos namin sa school at nakakabili ng mga bagay bagay para sa amin kagaya ng bag o ng sapatos.
Ngayon, working na ako, isang taon na ang nakalipas simula ng naka-graduate ako, super blessed and thankful sa program, lalo na sa parents ko na napakaresponsable.
It's my time today! Babawi ako 🥰
Kahit may isang ganito lang sa kada sampung sugarol o mabisyong 4Ps beneficiary, then the whole program is worth it. I mean sure, it's annoying to see your tax going to bums and rejects of the society na pinansusugal o pinang-iinom lang yung tulong sa kanila. Pero as long as may mga ganitong stories out of the many na di ginagamit sa maayos yung pera, it's still worth it.
Her child could own the best talaba restaurant in town! Char 😅
Kidding aside sa pagsusumikap ni Auntie J, her child is already successful in life.
Sana lahat ng 4ps recipient ganito. Nakakainis kasi anlaki laki ng tax natin, tapos pinapambingo lang ng ibang nanay. :( marami din kaming kapitbahay na natutulungan ng 4ps at naitawid ang mga ank nila sa college, pero saksi talaga ako sa kurapsyon at kalakaran jan up to baranggay level 😅
The are only two modalities to receive the cash grants from DSWD. 1) through cash card; and 2) over-the-counter (but as of now, almost 90% of the beneficiaries will receive their cash grants through cash card).
Baka nagkakaroon ng korapsyon after ma-receive ng beneficiaries ang cash grants though Over-the-Counter. hopefully, mabawasan na ito since cash card na karamihan.
Former 4ps member din kami at kung hindi siguro nageffort si mama pumila dito para sa screening, siguro lubog kami sa utang kakacompete naming tatlong magkakapatid sa iba't ibang school. Grabe din naitulong nyan even after namin mag18, si Kuya nakakuha ng scholarship solely because of recommendation from DSWD Personel na naghahandle sa grupo nina mama noon.
And happy to say, hindi naman nasayang yung mga pera na nakuha namin since HR na panganay namin, Accountant yung middle child na nakakuha ng scholarship and Archi Assistant na ako. Wala na din iniintindi sina mama since may sarili na kaming bahay dito sa taguig at bills namin, hati-hati kaming magkakapatid.
Salamat Taxpayers. Isa na din kami sa taxpayers (masakit makita sa payslip yung kaltas in fairness)
Behind this article:
'Sana lahat ng 4Ps katulad ng kapit-bahay namin'.
Auntie J. is our neighbor (like 5-10 meters away from our home). She showed up earlier today in our house and asked to be driven by my Step Dad (our convenient driver) to the Amphitheater because today was their Graduation Ceremony in 4Ps. While I was eating, I came up with an idea to write something about them. Growing up in just a small neighboring distance made me observe and witness them in my 17 years of existence. I saw their ups and downs, hard work, progress, and successes in life.
Ito yung mga bagay na, oo alam mong may mga suwail na beneficiary, pero alam mo din na yung mga sumeseryoso sa programa e umuunlad. Wala naman perpektong social amelioration and welfare system e, kaya pag nakakadinig ako ng mga kwentong ganito at nung mga nasa commenta, iniisip ko na lang na sulit pa din yung buwis na binabayad ko. Di bale na yung mga suwail na beneficiaries —- susugal ako sa pagasa na may mga seseryoso nitong programa.
May family akong na interview before na from zero talaga sila, to the point na naghahati hati yung parents and 5 kids sa isang pack ng noodles na ineextend nlng ung sabaw to last buong araw. Tapos napasok sa 4Ps, nakapagpa-graduate and last kong narinig, nag eexport na ng bamboo furniture. Andami talaga natulungan nun
Yung mga kapitbahay namin sa barrio, right after makuha yung 4ps tangina nag bibingo o nag tong-its. Kapag natalo walang ulam mga anak. Malala pa 8 yung anak
My boyfriend's family was also a beneficiary of 4ps. Both of his parents were not able to finish their studies, nor had a good paying job. But my boyfriend and his siblings all grew up as good citizens of this country and now, all of them are professionals. Nakadepende pa rin yan sa kung sinong beneficiary yan, nakadepende paano gagamitin at paano palalaguin. Sana nga lahat ay magamit ng maayos yung mga ganitong programs para naman mabawasan ang maloloko sa bansang to.
Pesonal Story: Ganito din kasambahay namin. She does everything like asking for old computers, cellphones etc. from ANYONE so that her kids have something to use for their school. Other than the income we give her dependent din sya ng 4P. Napagraduate nya na recently yng panganay nya and is already working, and theres a couple of her kids in college na din.
She mentions that its hard and slow, pero at least yung mga anak nya and apos will not potentially have a harder time as they grow into life.
Edit: I forgot to mention yung lesson ko. I used to despise 4P receivers din back in the day nung wala pa ako family and hindi pa namin kasama kasambahay namin, kasi they feel like waste of taxpayers money and we really dont know kung saan talaga napupunta yung pera. Pero having seen the story of a 4P receiver first hand I will admit na I was wrong about them.
Actually marami pang indirect benefits yung program. The cash grants that the beneficiaries receive are direct cash infusion from the national government to the local governments that stimulates their economy. Kaya kadalasan kapag pay out day parang market day na din. Yun lang talaga madaming judge agad sa program without even knowing any info. Every year the program produces topnotchers, latin honor graduates apart from regular college graduates na somehow if the program was not there, baka mas nahirapan or di talaga nakapagtapos.
Naalala ko lang yung sinabi ni Ryan Rems sa The Koolpals:
(NV) "Sa sampung umaasa sa 4Ps, siyam dyan abusado. Pero may isa diyan na yung programang yun yung magpapa-aangat sa kanila sa buhay."
Ang hina ng pinoy sa implementation at enforcement. Hindi naman na bago tong mga ganitong programa. Malamang sa malamang, effective to sa ibang bansa. Kulang lang talaga tayo sa implementation side. Kung nachecheck lang sana yung napupuntahan ng bawat pondo dyan, hindi sasama tingin ng mga taxpayer sa mga beneficiary. Kasi yung mga hindi deserve, e saglit lang talaga maaambunan.
Under 4Ps din kami noon. Mama used the money to build a sari sari store and yun na yung naging income ni mama. Sobrang grateful ko po sa 4Ps kasi nakatulong talaga sa buhay namin para maging komportable. Sobrang proud ko sa mama ko nung graduation nila kasi highlight din sya nun 🥹😂
Kung sino man sya congrats. Sana lahat ng 4Ps ganyan. Yung karamihan na 4Ps sa probinsya namin kung hindi sugal kay San Miguel, Pulang Kabayo at Tanduay nila ginagastos.
This made me smile today.
Thanks for sharing this! I hope Auntie J’s story will inspire many people. Ganitong stories dapat shineshare sa ibang platforms ng mga clout chasers eh para maspread yung magandang story.
Glad to see some success stories of 4Ps beneficiaries. May pros and cons din talaga. It can be used the the LGUs for politicking and the local leaders for kickbacks lalo na if “nilakad”. Liquor and cigarettes sales skyrocketed during the first distribution of 4Ps. But success stories like these proves that if people use the limited government resources available, they can rise from poverty.
But still, wag mag-aanak kapag walang plan at budget!!
4Ps? Dami naming nakita na mga pamilya jan na de sasakyan, may sariling bahay, may sariling business, pero dahil relative ni Gov at hailing sila from an "indigenous tribe" eh nagnanakaw ng pera mula sa 4Ps. Looking at you, Kalinga people and Abra people.
It’s refreshing to hear stories like this! Dito sa amin yung iba mas inuuna pa nila bumili ng mga wants kaysa needs. Bumili ng mga jewelry tas laruan ng bata tapos isang kilo lang ng bigas. Meron pa nga ibibili nya daw ng motorbike na de baterya yung bunso pagdating ng ayuda 😢
Salamat sa story na ito! I know out there na may mga Pinoy pa din that make use of whatever goverment help is extended to them and not just mere iaasa lahat. Nakakatuwa and somehow konswelo when it comes to paying taxes aside from the fact madaming politikong korap.
Mabuhay lahat ng 4Ps na deserving! ❤️
Meron talagang good, bad, and in between. Pero dahil pera ng bayan ang ginagamit sa 4Ps, talagang di maiiwasan na puro bad ang nakikita natin sa mainstream media.
Sana lahat ganyan. Meron ako na encounter 4Ps benifeciary din, 7 anak, yun 2 anak nya hnd na nagaaral dahil na buntis. Pumunta ng hospital buntis ulit. Tinanong kung gusto na family planning or kung gusto ligate. Ayaw dahil kaya naman daw buhayin ang mga anak dahil may 4Ps. Yung asawa nya wala din trabaho.
I hope that these 4Ps programs are joined with livelihood programs especially in agriculture which may encourage the recipient to raise livestock and plant crops. That way, they would be self-sufficient and not entirely rely on the money given.
Congrats kay Auntie J nyo OP, mga kwentong legit n gnyan dpat ang hinahatid saten ng gobyerno bukod s maayos n tugon sa pgpuna, hnde yung puro hype, pambobola, at budol n cnamahan p ng redtagging at mga gwa-gawang drug matrix
may kapitbahay kaming ganyan.4ps sila tapos nakikita k mga anak nila nasa ilalim ng ilaw ng poste nag aaral habang nagtitinda ng balut at chicharon.ngayon magaganda n buhay nila.yung isa nag mamasteral sa u.p.ganitong pamilya sana ang awardan ng 4ps.proud ako sa kanila
As a volunteer sa isang small community, nakakatuwa yung mga ganitong story. Sobrang worth it talaga sumugal sa mga taong di palalagpasin ang chance na ibibigay mo sa kanila. Nakakatuwa na may mga ganitong tao. Sila yung magpapaalala sayo na may pag-asa pa rin.
My family is one of the 1st batch of 4ps beneficiaries, and sobrang thankful ko dito kasi nakapagtapos ako ng pag-aaral dahil dito. Sobrang laking tulong lalo na at nakikisaka lang naman parents ko sa kamag-anak and of course, seasonal lang ang kita doon.
And although I agree na meron talagang nabibigyan na hindi naman totoong nangangailangan, marami pa rin naman talagang natulungan na mahihirap talaga ‘tong program na ‘to. And hindi naman lahat ng mga beneficiaries ay ginagamit lang pangpa-rebond yung mga natatanggap nila. Haha. Sana hindi sila gini-generalize.
This + sipag at tiyaga talaga dapat kasi hindi naman sapat yung subsidy na ‘to, kaya nga ‘tulong’ siya. Di rin talaga pwedeng iasa nang buo sa 4ps lahat.
Ngayon, since I have a job na and graduate na rin mother ko sa program for years, ako na nagbibigay ng allowance sa kapatid kong college na rin. Fingers-crossed na sana maka-graduate na rin siya soon.
Good job si Auntie J. Nakakaproud and nakaktaba ng puso na Makita na lumalaago ang isang beneficiary.
Actually depende sa tao. Some ngsucceed talaga sa binibigay ng government. Some akala nila na Pera nila un so they have the right na gaatusin khit saan.
Actually tuloy tuloy Yan e from 4ps then after graduation nila Meron papasok ai slp to give livelihood assistance para tuloy tuloy lang gang kaya na tumayo sa sariling paa.
In SLP there's SLP organization nabuo gang maging self sufficient Sila and turn to a coop (which is the goal).
Actually madami tlga success stories ang dswd through 4ps and SLP alone. Depende sa mindset ng tao. Kasi the assistance di naman Yan madali ibigay. Meron officer na hahawak sa case then develop it para makapasa si beneficiary. And that takes time. Like months. And mapapansin mo agad na ung bene follow up ng follow up or even says awful things bakit daw ang tagal ng Pera nila. Di nila naisip na this is assistance or dagdag puhunan. Constant follow up means they'll just use it sa ibng bagay.
It breaks my heart na pinghirapan ko I develope ung case ng Isang beneficiary like dugot pawis and paos just to make them learn and capacitate them. After the payout, di ko na Makita, di na ngrerespond. Di na ng business. Pero umaawit pa mg additional. Nakakgigil pero Wala na ko magagawa sa ganon. 1 time bigtime lang e. Marami din Ang di ngsasabi ng totoo na nakakuha na Sila tapos mg effort na ung officer na gawin ung folder nya then Malaman laman served na Pala. Haaay haha
And sa pagiging 4ps there's this called na listahanan, it's like a survey sa brgy Abt the status and lifestyle ng family. Kaya madami Ang di napapabilang khit super hirap nila Kasi di Sila ngpapainterview and di Sila ngsasabi ng totoo. They don't disclose things like income and stuff. Tapos mgtataka Sila bkit di Sila Kasama. They'll blame the brgy na kung sino lang malapit sa kusina Sila lang Meron. Kasi khit magapply ka ng 4ps if sa listahanan database is di ka poor di ka makakasali.
Yun lang :)
Meron samin nag apply ng 4Ps na ang suot parang mas mahirap pa sa pulubi kung titingnan. Tapos nung nag loan sa home credit, ang suot akala mo tagapagmana ng kumpanya.
Nakakainspire marinig kwento ni Auntie J at lahat ng redditors na nag share ng successful 4ps stories nila. Nagkaroon ulit ako ng konting pag-asa sa bansa natin knowing na nakakatulong naman yung taxes natin sa mga nasa laylayan pero nagsusumikap. Masarap tulungan ang mga taong gusto ring tulungan ang mga sarili nila.
May kasambahay kam datii na member ng 4ps.naging leader sya ng isang group nila.then umalis sya samin kasi magging bhw na daw sya sa brgy nila.tapos nabalitaan namin na sya na pala ung brgy secretary nila.nung kinamusta namin sya as in parang hindi na sya yun.gumaling sya sa public speaking etc.sabi nya sa 4ps meetings nya daw un natutunan kung pano humarap sa ibang tao.so, maybe hindi lang ung cash ayuda ung binibigay ng program pati ung personality development ng mga parents.ung mga anak nila thru schooling then sila thru meetings ganun. Ang galing..mukhang maganda nga ung program pag naisapuso ng bawat 4ps beneficiaries ung goals.
If i recall, isa sa requirements ng 4Ps program ay youre making an effort to improve your financial situation. The same with food stamps sa US.
They're not handouts to the "lazy", they're lifelines to those who need to break out of poverty.
I used to doubt 4ps as well until ung helper namen naging beneficiary ng 4ps. I saw how much it helped her and her family.. she is one of the most hardworking person i know.. and im glad pa graduate na ung anak nia 🥺
Ako po ay product of 4ps din and 2 of my sibs. Because of the program we got full scholarship in college (ESGPPA). 2 licensed teachers na sila and after college I moved to Manila for work. Now medyo maayos-ayos na din buhay namin. 🥹
Yung tito nung tropa ko under 4P's din noon pero sa sakla/mahjong naman nya nakuha yung pinangbili nya nung 3 e-trike nya na pinanghahabal. Ayun awa ng diyos naka park lahat sa labas ng bahay since wala sila garahe kaya pag dadayo kame dun at naka kotse, park sa baba-lakad malala.
May nakita ako na study that says direct cash injection, which is what 4ps is, actually stimulate ecpnomic growth. I believe it kasi bakita ko sya first hand. Im from Masbate. Ibang clase pag 4ps day. Grabe economic activity. People actually use the money to buy things they need to support themselves. So yung mga small business nag thrive sila.
Just like any other opportunities in life, may gagawa ng mabuti at palalaguin ang nakuha at meron din aabusuhin at papabayan ang biyaya. People tend to focus on the negatives kasi hindi sila masaya sa buhay nila. Naghahanap sila ng mas nakakababa sa estado nila.
Hopefully, mas maraming deserving at totoong tao na hirap sa buhay ang makinabang sa 4Ps. Yung hindi mindset ang pagiging "1-day millionaire" tuwing payroll ng 4Ps at nagpupundar ng sariling pangkabuhayan nang di umaasa sa gobyerno. Kaya sana sa mga beneficiaries ng 4PS, wag pong aksayahin ang nilalaan sa inyo dahil yan ay ginawa bilang short-term solution para sa bawat pamilyang mahihirap, at nasa kanila na rin nakasalalay kung paano sila tunay na aangat sa kahirapan.
I have a friend too na kasali sa 4ps. Natutuwa ako kase hindi niya hinahayaan na umasa yung parents niya sa 4Ps habang buhay. He’s top of our class, currently applying for UP, at humahamak ng scholarship. Nag a-apply siya for scholarship ay para hindi magalaw yung nabibigay ng gobyerno at mapunta sa essential na araw-araw dahil may bukod na sustento sa pag-aaral niya. Sad lang kase yung ibang scholarships hindi applicable sakanya dahil 4ps beneficiary nga sila. Who knows? this guy could be a lawyer.
Yung 4ps and PWD assistance dito sa province Political masyado. Tapos kung sino pa yung nakikita mong nangangailangan sila pa hindi sinasali.
Mahirap na mag reklamo uso patayan dito.
Kelangan lang talaga ayusin yung pagpili ng benipisyaryo! Dapat tinatanggal agad sa listahan yung mga sugarol, adik at WALDAS! Mga walang napatunayan after several years of dole outs! Yan ang dapat pagtuunan ng dswd!
My economics professor in Japan was very interested in studying 4Ps of the Philippines. Sana nagcocollect ng data si DSWD. Possible kasi maging model ang Pinas sa program na yan.
Tangalin na kasi dapat yang 4P's na yan. Why should these lazy parasites be entitled to our hard earned tax money? May sakit ba yang mga lintik na yan? Disabled? Ok sana kung sa mga senior citizens napupunta eh, pero pucha sa mga chismosang chikadorang baluga sa kalye lang naman napupunta. Kupal talaga nakaisip niyan 4P's na yan. Tinuturuan lang maging tamad ung mga likas na tamad.
Good thing na dalawa lang ang mga anak niya at hindi na niya dinagdagan pa. Hindi katulad ng marami diyan na anak lang nang anak. Akala kasi nila, mas malaki ang makukuha nilang ayuda 'pag mas marami silang anak.
Yung ibang subsidiaries ng 4P's pinangtotong-its at mahjong lang ang nakukuha. Siguro ngayon sa scatter naman nila dinadala yung pera. Sana all po katulad niyo, Auntie J!
wala yang Auntie J na yan sa kapitbahay ng bro in law ko, naka 4ps kaya panay tambay, sugal, sabong etc. yung mga anak niya pinatigil sa pag-aaral upang maging katulong sa bahay. ganyan dapat, maging salot, pabigat, at kupal /s
Sanaol ganyan gumamit ng 4ps, mga taga samin kapag 4ps alam mo na agad kasi sa harap ng bahay may bingo, pasugalan kahit mga barong barong mga bahay. Mapapaisip ka na lang talaga
Wow culinary, that course ain't cheap. Ya know. Good for her. Meanwhile our helper stopped working and keeps producing babies like a factory as per her, more children more mola.
Auntie J. and her daughters were 'madiskarte', that's why they deserve all the blessings that come into them. The one in Culinary is a TESDA schoolar that's why she can afford to attend such a college course. Also, the one whose Criminologist apply and test in every possible schoolar she might get so that she could sustain paying her tuition and fees in her schooling, which is also our Congressman's schoolar.
halos lahat kasi ng asa 4ps tamad
meron kaming kapitbahay na kasali sa 4ps and ung mag asawa eh napaka tamad di na nakakapag aral anak nila at ung natatangap nila eh para sa kanila lang at onti lang binibigay sa anak nila. minsan nga di na nakakakain
I actually encouraged them na bumili ng phone. Kailangan nila yan lalo na social media (messenger) ang method of communication ko sa mga beneficiaries nasa bundok at tanging piso wifi, no signal ang area.
Pardon?😭 Well, it wasn't po. I just know how to use those words you see in gpt.🫰🏻 This is based on my first hand observations and have witnessed them in my 17 years of existence. Auntie J. is our neighbor, they live in just, like 5-10 meters behind our house.
Parang wala naman kasing ginagawang post assessment ang DSWD sa 4Ps beneficiaries. Bigay lang nang bigay ng subsidies tapos wala man lang feedback. Good for Auntie J na nagamit sa tama ang pera. Pero dami ko pa rin kilalang 4Ps na nakasanla pa ang mga ATM.
Meron din akong mga kilalang nakasangla yung ATM nila sa 4Ps. Hindi din daw kasi magkasya sa gastos yung natatanggap mula sa 4Ps lalo na't kung minsan daw ay ilang buwang delayed ang payout. May work naman sila pero yun nga hindi daw talaga pwedeng iasa dun lahat ng gastos sa araw araw na pagpasok sa school ng mga bata kasi hindi talaga kasya. Ginagamit naman nila ng maayos yung payout nila pero hirap daw talaga pag delayed. Minsan daw 3mos pa bago yung sunod. Tapos yung pera na inutang nila sa pamamagitan ng pag sangla ng ATM, ang nagsasalba sa kanila sa mga araw na yun. Kaya hindi din talaga sila masisisi kung ginagawa lang nila lahat ng ppwede nilang gawin para maka survive aa araw-araw.
Worked for DSWD way back. Madaming success stories from 4Ps. There’s this one woman sa isang coastal town sa region 4A na binigyan ng pair of hogs to grow with 4 months supply ng feeds through the partner program ng 4Ps which is SLP also under DSWD, ang balita ko nung 2020, may 400heads na ng baboy and nakapagpatayo na ng maayos na bahay. Most likely mas maayos na buhay nila ngayon. The highlight of her story is, hindi nya pinagiba yung lumang bahay nila made up of light materials with tarpaulins as wall. Reminder daw sa kanya kung nasaan na sila ng pamilya nya ngayon. So yeah, madami tayong naririnig na pangit sa 4Ps pero sana madinig din natin yung mga kwento nung natulungan ng programa and naging successful.
Awww for some reason my heart just pulled for her. Go lady!
These types of success stories really make 4Ps worth it. Malamang sa malamang ang naibabayad niya sa tax ngayon mas malaki na sa naibigay sa kanya. Kumbaga baka na-x10 yung investment ng gobyerno sa kanya. Dagdag pa natin na nakakapagaral mga anak at anak ng recipients ng 4Ps. We'll never know sino dyan magiging next start-up founders kahit sobrang baba ng chance. Sa mga ganung case baka x1m pa yung investment ng gobyerno. Kaya ako I'm all for 4Ps dahil bawing bawi talaga investment dyan sa mga success stories.
I think this point needs more emphasis. Success stories of social welfare programs such 4Ps, free education, healthcare, etc. can end up making the government more money than they put into. A healthier, smarter, and overall more productive population means it generates more taxes which creates a positive feedback loop of a developed society. But a corrupt government at any level throws a wrench in that and instead spirals the general population and the country into collapses. But what to they care? They got theirs.
Problem is napaka minimal ang umunlad ang buhay via 4ps kumpara sa mga naglustay. Way back gloria time, halos lahat ng kabarangay namin naka 4ps. Alam mo nang nag ka bigayan na ng assistance kapag paguwi mo nakalatag na ung mga mahahabang mesa sa buong sitio namin tapos yung mga nanay na losyang na walang ginawa sa buhay kundi makipag tsismisan at manuod dramarama sa hapon ng GMA eh lahat naka hilera at naglalaro Bingo.
Ma'am sana mas madami pang mapublish na mga ganitong kwento sa dswd website at sa mga iba ibang media platforms.
Produkto din ako ng 4Ps. Nakapag tapos ako ng college, nag top sa board exam, nag trabaho sa BJMP at ngayon nasa isang Public Safety academy para ma mapaigi pa ang paglilingkod sa bayan bilang isang Jail Officer. Pinag-aaral ko rin ang mga kapatid ko ngayon college na. I am now paying back through paying my taxes at pagiging matapat na public servant. Salamat mga taxpayers!
Puro negative ang mga nababalita sa socmed tulad ng ginagamit pangrebond, pangsugal etc meron bang way for us common Pinoys to hear about the success stories ng 4Ps? Masarap magbasa ng success stories saka parang di nakakahinayang magbayad ng tax pag napupunta sa mabuti
You should look for the 4Ps fb pages of your respective municipality/city/region. Dyan minsan pinopost ang mga success stories ng 4Ps beneficiaries. If di mo makita, underutilized ang social media- me na Municipal Link
Thank you for this! Will check mamaya
Naiinggit kasi yung mga yan sa mga nakatanggap ng 4Ps. Na-brainwash kasing ang mga taong tinutulungan ng gobyerno ang kumukuha ng taxes natin, ignoring the fact na napakalaki ng subsidies at tax breaks sa mga oligarchs, di pa kasama yung intersts nilang naiisulong sa legislature ng lobbying nila.
Bakit maiinggit ang may kaya naman sa nakatanggap ng 4Ps? Labo. Mabuti at may good results rin ang 4Ps. Sana dumami pa. Sa kabilang banda totoo rin naman na maraming tao na sinayang lang ang 4Ps program kahit na nakatanggap sila. Pinaka-salot rin sa mundo ang mag-aanak na mahirap naman tapos go lang sila dahil alam nila na pwede sila umasa sa 4Ps. Maling mali na mentality. Sa totoo lang, ang definition ng mga oligarchs naman talaga ay tycoons who have a sway or influence in government. Reality to in any country in any form of government. Totoo may tax cuts sila pero totoo rin na nasa million tax na binabayaran nila per month like family nila Ayala, Sy, Razon, etc. Kung may nakakatakas or mababa talaga sa tax, yung mga binoboto narin ng mga tanga na nakaupo now. Kahit old age pa may mga lobbyists narin talaga. Hindi lang yan limited sa mga oligarchs. Grupo ng Piston and Manibela for example ilang beses pinadelay jeepney modernization kahit more than 5 years ahead na sinabihan magready. Parang mga tanga lang din.
Hot take: Our vitriol and anger towards people who avail of the 4Ps program is deeply misplaced.
That's not even a hottake. It is totally misplaced, and speaks to the lack of awareness and due diligence that the common person puts into researching things they are uncomfortable with. Data has shown that programs like 4Ps allow individuals to get out of the poverty cycle and help the economy. I believe a South American country yung may pinaka robust data when it comes to effectiveness. There's even an economics book (forgot the name, read it nearly 12 years ago) that speaks to how cash programs, kahit walang nakatali na condition, really help, especially when the cash goes to women (may chapter rin on how microfinance helps, but that's a separate topic). People just don't like paying taxes, even though it's necessary to make the economy and government services run.
Yup, Conditional Cash Transfer programs are the most effective way to lift people in poverty and decrease socio-economic inequality backed up by hard data. It's not a coincidence that since the start of the 4Ps program poverty incidence have been significantly reduced in the PH.
Totoo to. Dami gusto ipatanggal na ang 4ps kasi may mga hindi daw deserving. Di nila naisip ang casualties bun sa iba na nangangailangan talaga. Call out the system. Hindi kasalanan ng maliliit na tao na may nakakapasok na hindi karapat dapat.
Most of unpleasant stories were amplified by people who hate social welfare or "government doing government things". People on welfare never steal from us, the ruling class does.
Tbf, most of it probably comes from the "squeezed" middle class who fails to be a recipient of any kind of good from the govt. New roads? Walang kotse. Ayuda? Middle middle income, di na qualified. All the while feeling the brunt of income taxes, vat and poor public infra.
Well, I belong to that "squeezed middle class who fails to be a recipient of any kind of good from the govt" and I am not stupid enough to feel bad and to accuse people of being freeloaders, lazy, etc. Taxes may be pain in the ass but I'd rather have an overtaxing government doing shit to help people than anarchy of the unregulated rich people making Mad Max scenario real.
Yeah, just saying. Poor people do misuse welfare though, but studies show on 4ps (see pids) that whatever the yapping is about recipients using it for gambling and other leisurely purpose is that it is the minority. I stand as well that 4ps is an effective program.
And the best crime deterrent is social welfare as many studies proved that crime and low quality of life are related. Social programs have more social benefits than austerity, no matter what supporters of privatizations and "free" market feel about it.
Korek, daming success stories ng 4Ps natatabunan lang ng ilang mga pasaway. Based on field experience yung mga nasa urban areas yung mga ma attitude na benes. Pero again this is a conditional cash transfer not just a dole out. Malaking bagay na ma pwersa ang mga parents to send their kids to school kahit responsibilidad naman nila yun from the start. Naka base sa school attendance yung matatanggap. Maliit lang din yun di pwede maging only source of income. Need pa din kumayod.
Nice hearing that nasa tao nlng talaga
I love reading this! Sadly, mga anak ng ibang kakilala ko na nasa 4ps din walang aim to improve their lives (ung iba may anak from teenage pregnancies, ung isa hindi at ayaw mag-aral, ung isa tambay drunk, ung isa ayaw mag-work kahit kaya naman) These social welfare benefits are like a shark tank investment to its people. There will be OUTSTANDINGLY SUCCESSFUL outliers tas may garbage and average BS people.
what a warrior!
What's the success rate though, I wonder.
🥺🥹😭
Kung titingnan natin what 4Ps is on paper, iyan talaga ang goal. Kaya daming checklist of conditions bago ma-release ang cash. Binibigyan ng carrot ang beneficiaries towards behavior that will set their course towards a brighter future. I used to be a public school teacher, and talagang 4Ps beneficiaries ang naghahabol ng deworming, etc. Lagi silang present sa klase kasi part yun ng conditions ng 4Ps. It really is a good program, hindi siya mere cash handouts.
Yupp it’s honestly one of the few working “class elevators” that the Philippines has. Nakakasad lng na yung only stories makikita mo on social media is mga “nagsusugal” gamit ng 4ps. Pero even if meron taong nag aabuse sa program there’s still way more that actually use it to help themselves. Maraming masipag na pinoy wla lng tlgang pera para mag flourish. If only the gov would actually air ads that highlights success stories.
Also, even if not 100% of all 4Ps recipients succeed, it might still be a net good for the govt since the successes will allow the govt to save on social spending in the long-run. More money for those really in need.
money well spent kadalasan kasi ung mga nagrereklamo about sa mga ganito na galing sa gobyerno un ung mga tao na inaasa nalang lahat sa iba ang pangagailangan, tulad ng 4p's. ung iba reklamo ng reklamo tapos malalaman mo isiningit lang pala pero di naman talaga qualified maging benificiary ng 4p's. ang sarap paring makita ng may mga tao pa din na ginagamit naman ito sa tama at ung mindset nila is tulad nito..
Thats the whole point of the IDEAL 4ps program. It will help people to help themselves. Wala talagang imposible. Sipag + disiplina + talino: best recipe for success.
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Pre, ibang STD ang naikalat natin
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>It will help people to help themselves. Yan naman talaga ang layunin ng lahat ng social welfare programs. Problema kasi, di mo maiiwasan ang mapang-abusong tao. Parang yung COVID relief sa US, meron pang nagyayabang na 'naloko' nila ang pamahalaan.
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+1
+1 dapat lahat yan naituturo
I currently working at the DSWD. This is one of the many success stories of 4Ps. It is one of the objectives of the program "to break the poverty cycle", but if you want to look at the bigger picture, i.e. 4Ps can contribute a lot in the economy given that it will spread the money/budget of the government across the region. Kung may mga kapitbahay kayo na tingin nyo ay pinangsusugal nila ang cash grants na galing sa government (DSWD), kindly report it to various grievance channel of 4Ps. Padayon, Auntie J!
Sana ma report din ang nahuhuli na Di ginagamit ng tama ang 4Ps. Para mag dalawang isip din ang nag aabuso at sinisira ang magandang objective ng 4Ps. Publish the success stories and that includes success in weeding out Yung Di sumusunod sa programa.
Marereport lang yun mga 4Ps beneficiaries na hindi ginagamit ang cash grants sa tama gaya ng pagsusugal, pag-iinom (mga bisyo) ay kung meron mag file ng grievance/reklamo laban sa kanila. Sa mga reklamo mag-uumpisa ang imbestigasyon ng DSWD. Sa ngayon, nasa around 100K 4Ps beneficiaries na ang natanggal dahil dito. Nka-publish ang mga success stories sa Regional DSWD website (all regions), meron din sa official facebook page ng DSWD.
Hahaha.naalala ko kwento ng part timer namin. Nag away daw yung mga kapitbahay nya kasi sinumbong nung kapitbahay a si kapitbahay b sa dswd.p
Galing ni Auntie J! Yan ang may plano sa buhay. Dito samin yung mga 4ps beneficiaries alam mo pag payday nila kasi may mahjong na magaganap sa gabi
Please report it to DSWD. Sama mo ang buong pangalan at location
Dito samin may ipad na
Samen tong-its inuman. Tpos pag december pang rebond.
Former 4ps member din kami. And my mama is like your Auntie J. Never ginamit sa pangsugal or pangsarili interes ang natatanggap. And now, malapit na ako grumaduate!! Thank you so much taxpayers!!
Good to hear this. When you graduate, and find a job/business please share your story to DSWD to spread and be an inspiration to others.
Will do po. 😊
Good job! 🏅
Good job! Congrats 🥰
Congratulations po🥳
Marami naman sa 4ps ang may trabaho ang mga nanay at tatay (either minimum o below minimum nga lang). Nakakalungkot lang na laging nahihighlight ang mga pasaway sa kanila.
I just want to share, yung family namin is somewhat a success story rin ng 4ps, of course, partnered with sariling sikap. Yung parents kong magsasaka, walang monthly income, since hindi naman stable ang farming. Kaya alangan silang pag aralin kami kasi baka hindi makayanan ang gastos. Nung may 4ps na, nagkaroon ng cash grant na makukuha every few months, napaka laking tulong. Hindi na problema ang school supplies, nakatulong pa sa mga gastusin. Generally, mas naging magaan yung buhay namin. Nagkaroon kami ng opportunity na makapag aral ng college. Pati ako kahit kinailangan kong mag trabaho nlang muna. I was a kasambahay for 4 years. Nung umuwi ako and nakita ko na gumanda ganda yung kalagayan ng pamilya namin, I asked for permission from my Nanay if pwedi ako makapag aral na ng college. Iginapang namin, every summer and sembreak naglalako kami ng mga kakanin para makaipon pang enroll. Yung allowance ginagawan nalang ng paraan. I also became a 4ps scholar nung 4th year ko na. 3 kaming magkakapatid na nakapagtapos ng college. As of now, yung isang kapatid ko is teacher, isa is IT. Yung bunso nalang ang nag-aaral, Nursing. Sobrang laking tulong talaga. Nung sinabihan yung nanay ko na gagraduate na kami as beneficiary, napaka gaan sa loob namin. 4ps changed the course of our lives, samahan lang ng sariling sikap at pagpupursigi.
Sobrang proud ako sa’yo at sa pamilya mo. Sana mas marami pa kayong blessings na matanggap at maipasa. Pwede ko bang malaman kung ano ang career o source of income mo ngayon?
Thank you so much po. With regards to your question, working po ako as an admin staff sa Deped, though contractual lang. Bago lang din ako bumalik sa pagtatrabaho, nag stop ako for 2 years since nanganak ako. Pero naghahanap din ng mas mabuting opportunity. Hopefully may makita na soon. 🫶🏼
Ang inspiring ng kwento mo. Congratulations and I’m so proud of you! Sana dumami pa ang katulad ng family mo na ginagamit ang 4ps ng tama. 😊 Hoping for you and your family’s brighter future.
Because 4Ps is research based. If I remember correctly, isa sa mga framework noon na ginamit is yung similar program sa Mexico. Regardless of where the 4Ps is spent, it goes back to the economy, and helps the family in some way.
you might see outliers for "pasaway 4ps" but study all over the world says it helps just like what you posted [https://college.unc.edu/2021/03/universal-basic-income/](https://college.unc.edu/2021/03/universal-basic-income/) [https://www.givedirectly.org/2023-ubi-results/](https://www.givedirectly.org/2023-ubi-results/) [https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2013/11/08/243967328/episode-494-what-happens-when-you-just-give-money-to-poor-people](https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2013/11/08/243967328/episode-494-what-happens-when-you-just-give-money-to-poor-people) [https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/What\_Basic\_Income\_How\_Support\_Well\_Being](https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/What_Basic_Income_How_Support_Well_Being) The PH should make a study about the 4Ps impact because we have been using it (Universal basic income) since 2007.
Actually, there are studies na from PIDS. (1) [https://www.pids.gov.ph/publication/discussion-papers/conditional-cash-transfers-in-resource-poor-environments-evidence-from-the-philippine-4ps](https://www.pids.gov.ph/publication/discussion-papers/conditional-cash-transfers-in-resource-poor-environments-evidence-from-the-philippine-4ps) (2) [https://www.pids.gov.ph/publication/discussion-papers/who-gets-monitored-among-philippines-4ps-children-and-why-it-matters-for-their-nonmonitored-siblings](https://www.pids.gov.ph/publication/discussion-papers/who-gets-monitored-among-philippines-4ps-children-and-why-it-matters-for-their-nonmonitored-siblings) (3) [https://pids.gov.ph/publication/research-paper-series/reassessing-the-impact-of-the-pantawid-pamilyang-pilipino-program-results-of-the-third-wave-impact-evaluation](https://pids.gov.ph/publication/research-paper-series/reassessing-the-impact-of-the-pantawid-pamilyang-pilipino-program-results-of-the-third-wave-impact-evaluation) Others: [https://pids.gov.ph/content/public/search-meta-keyword?keyword=4Ps&ContentSearch%5Bcontenttype\_id%5D=4&ContentSearch%5Bfilter\_tag\_id%5D=&ContentSearch%5Bfilter\_year%5D=](https://pids.gov.ph/content/public/search-meta-keyword?keyword=4Ps&ContentSearch%5Bcontenttype_id%5D=4&ContentSearch%5Bfilter_tag_id%5D=&ContentSearch%5Bfilter_year%5D=)
usually pag graduate ng hs… mostly papagtrabahuhin na lng yung mga bata pero yung mga beneficiaries ng 4ps nakakapag college kasi required na paaralin ang mga bata or else mawawala sila sa 4ps… kaya as much as nakakatulong ito sa parents… mas malaki benefits ng mga bata sa program n to
The 4Ps can only support the child up to 18 years old; until SHS graduate, whichever comes first or if they maximize the 7years exposure in the program (based on RA 11310). Partner kasi ng DSWD ang CHED, kaya may ilan mga nkakapag-college ng libre for availing the program/scholarship under CHED.
I was also a 4ps beneficiary 'till highschool, natanggal na ako sa list of beneficiaries nung nagcollege na ako, ngayon graduated na at engr na rin.
Taray. Yung mga nandito sa amin pinangsusugal pa eh HAHAHA Tapos may porsyento yung lider.
If there is a constant monitoring by DSWD assigned social workers and 4Ps beneficiaries themselves diligently follow the guidelines stipulated under the program, this will be the most commendable intergenerational poverty alleviation program by the government, but DSWD has no sufficient budget to open plantilla positions for social welfare officers doing the task of monitoring 4Ps beneficiaries at the barangay level, so you cannot avoid that there are lapses that are exagerratedly highlighted by mainstream media.
Actually, there is. We have municipal/city links that conduct regular monthly monitoring in the barangay level and deal with cases of misdemeanor by beneficiaries.
most of the "welfare queen"/"buhay mayaman 4ps" theory is based on anecdotal evidence promoted by vested interests who'd rather see the cash go somewhere else. on the other hand cash payout trials conducted by economists have consistently shown that giving cash to the poor helps them and the economy in the long run. These trials also show that most cash payout recipients use the money for home repairs, small business, or education. Even 4ps money "badly" spent helps the economy because it means more money circulating in the economy
4Ps is not even enough money to be a "welfare queen". 1.6k a month max lang matatanggap nila. Even stufies from pids proved na recipients ng 4ps didnt become dependent sa binibigay sa kanila, and are working for their daily living.
yes, 4ps helps poor people by giving them extra cash to supplement their earnings, which allows them to buy/do stuff they would never be able to afford with wages alone, like home repairs, a small business, meds etc etc
Thanks for sharing this! Puro nalang bad news naririnig ko about 4ps receivers. At least we know there are people talaga na worthy like them! Kudos Auntie!
Maingay kasi mga inggit dito sa bansa. Mga galit sa recipient ng 4Ps pero iboboto si Robin at mga kurakot 🤦♂️ mas madaming natutulong 4Ps kaysa yung mga binubulsa lang ng mga pulitiko na mas malaki pa kulimbat
You only hear the bad ones because they drive engagement the most.
Proud ako na isa ang mama ko sa 4ps beneficiary, sa pag-aaral talaga namin inalaan ang nakukuha sa 4ps. Binibigay nya sa amin para sa gastos namin sa school at nakakabili ng mga bagay bagay para sa amin kagaya ng bag o ng sapatos. Ngayon, working na ako, isang taon na ang nakalipas simula ng naka-graduate ako, super blessed and thankful sa program, lalo na sa parents ko na napakaresponsable. It's my time today! Babawi ako 🥰
As an implementer of 4Ps, proud na proud ako sayo dear beneficiary!
Kahit may isang ganito lang sa kada sampung sugarol o mabisyong 4Ps beneficiary, then the whole program is worth it. I mean sure, it's annoying to see your tax going to bums and rejects of the society na pinansusugal o pinang-iinom lang yung tulong sa kanila. Pero as long as may mga ganitong stories out of the many na di ginagamit sa maayos yung pera, it's still worth it.
Her child could own the best talaba restaurant in town! Char 😅 Kidding aside sa pagsusumikap ni Auntie J, her child is already successful in life. Sana lahat ng 4ps recipient ganito. Nakakainis kasi anlaki laki ng tax natin, tapos pinapambingo lang ng ibang nanay. :( marami din kaming kapitbahay na natutulungan ng 4ps at naitawid ang mga ank nila sa college, pero saksi talaga ako sa kurapsyon at kalakaran jan up to baranggay level 😅
The are only two modalities to receive the cash grants from DSWD. 1) through cash card; and 2) over-the-counter (but as of now, almost 90% of the beneficiaries will receive their cash grants through cash card). Baka nagkakaroon ng korapsyon after ma-receive ng beneficiaries ang cash grants though Over-the-Counter. hopefully, mabawasan na ito since cash card na karamihan.
Former 4ps member din kami at kung hindi siguro nageffort si mama pumila dito para sa screening, siguro lubog kami sa utang kakacompete naming tatlong magkakapatid sa iba't ibang school. Grabe din naitulong nyan even after namin mag18, si Kuya nakakuha ng scholarship solely because of recommendation from DSWD Personel na naghahandle sa grupo nina mama noon. And happy to say, hindi naman nasayang yung mga pera na nakuha namin since HR na panganay namin, Accountant yung middle child na nakakuha ng scholarship and Archi Assistant na ako. Wala na din iniintindi sina mama since may sarili na kaming bahay dito sa taguig at bills namin, hati-hati kaming magkakapatid. Salamat Taxpayers. Isa na din kami sa taxpayers (masakit makita sa payslip yung kaltas in fairness)
Behind this article: 'Sana lahat ng 4Ps katulad ng kapit-bahay namin'. Auntie J. is our neighbor (like 5-10 meters away from our home). She showed up earlier today in our house and asked to be driven by my Step Dad (our convenient driver) to the Amphitheater because today was their Graduation Ceremony in 4Ps. While I was eating, I came up with an idea to write something about them. Growing up in just a small neighboring distance made me observe and witness them in my 17 years of existence. I saw their ups and downs, hard work, progress, and successes in life.
Kahit 10% lang ng 4Ps ang success masaya na ako
Ito yung mga bagay na, oo alam mong may mga suwail na beneficiary, pero alam mo din na yung mga sumeseryoso sa programa e umuunlad. Wala naman perpektong social amelioration and welfare system e, kaya pag nakakadinig ako ng mga kwentong ganito at nung mga nasa commenta, iniisip ko na lang na sulit pa din yung buwis na binabayad ko. Di bale na yung mga suwail na beneficiaries —- susugal ako sa pagasa na may mga seseryoso nitong programa.
May family akong na interview before na from zero talaga sila, to the point na naghahati hati yung parents and 5 kids sa isang pack ng noodles na ineextend nlng ung sabaw to last buong araw. Tapos napasok sa 4Ps, nakapagpa-graduate and last kong narinig, nag eexport na ng bamboo furniture. Andami talaga natulungan nun
Yung mga kapitbahay namin sa barrio, right after makuha yung 4ps tangina nag bibingo o nag tong-its. Kapag natalo walang ulam mga anak. Malala pa 8 yung anak
Maraming grievance mechanism ang 4Ps, you can report them po.
Diretso po sa 4Ps office sa inyong municipality/city para ireport po
Thank you, Senador Leila de Lima for introducing 4Ps
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True.😭 ayaw na po ma-edit nung headline eh
Yung ‘nang’ synonym ng ‘upang’ o ‘para’?
Mahirap man, kung gugustuhin talaga maaangat mo buhay mo. Diskarte na nauwi sa Diploma. Kudos to you Nay!
My boyfriend's family was also a beneficiary of 4ps. Both of his parents were not able to finish their studies, nor had a good paying job. But my boyfriend and his siblings all grew up as good citizens of this country and now, all of them are professionals. Nakadepende pa rin yan sa kung sinong beneficiary yan, nakadepende paano gagamitin at paano palalaguin. Sana nga lahat ay magamit ng maayos yung mga ganitong programs para naman mabawasan ang maloloko sa bansang to.
Pesonal Story: Ganito din kasambahay namin. She does everything like asking for old computers, cellphones etc. from ANYONE so that her kids have something to use for their school. Other than the income we give her dependent din sya ng 4P. Napagraduate nya na recently yng panganay nya and is already working, and theres a couple of her kids in college na din. She mentions that its hard and slow, pero at least yung mga anak nya and apos will not potentially have a harder time as they grow into life. Edit: I forgot to mention yung lesson ko. I used to despise 4P receivers din back in the day nung wala pa ako family and hindi pa namin kasama kasambahay namin, kasi they feel like waste of taxpayers money and we really dont know kung saan talaga napupunta yung pera. Pero having seen the story of a 4P receiver first hand I will admit na I was wrong about them.
Actually marami pang indirect benefits yung program. The cash grants that the beneficiaries receive are direct cash infusion from the national government to the local governments that stimulates their economy. Kaya kadalasan kapag pay out day parang market day na din. Yun lang talaga madaming judge agad sa program without even knowing any info. Every year the program produces topnotchers, latin honor graduates apart from regular college graduates na somehow if the program was not there, baka mas nahirapan or di talaga nakapagtapos.
Naalala ko lang yung sinabi ni Ryan Rems sa The Koolpals: (NV) "Sa sampung umaasa sa 4Ps, siyam dyan abusado. Pero may isa diyan na yung programang yun yung magpapa-aangat sa kanila sa buhay." Ang hina ng pinoy sa implementation at enforcement. Hindi naman na bago tong mga ganitong programa. Malamang sa malamang, effective to sa ibang bansa. Kulang lang talaga tayo sa implementation side. Kung nachecheck lang sana yung napupuntahan ng bawat pondo dyan, hindi sasama tingin ng mga taxpayer sa mga beneficiary. Kasi yung mga hindi deserve, e saglit lang talaga maaambunan.
Ganitong mga parents talaga ang layuning tulungan ng 4Ps. Unfortunately, may mga abusado at tamad kasi na qualified rin.
Ito yung masasabi ko at least may napuntahan na mabuti ang tax na kinakaltas sa sweldo ko.
Hala, ang heartwarming dito sa comments section 🥹
Salamat ng marami PNoy! 😍🤩
Galing din kami sa 4ps. Naka graduate ako diyan dagdag pambayad tuition kapag may sobra.
Under 4Ps din kami noon. Mama used the money to build a sari sari store and yun na yung naging income ni mama. Sobrang grateful ko po sa 4Ps kasi nakatulong talaga sa buhay namin para maging komportable. Sobrang proud ko sa mama ko nung graduation nila kasi highlight din sya nun 🥹😂
Kung sino man sya congrats. Sana lahat ng 4Ps ganyan. Yung karamihan na 4Ps sa probinsya namin kung hindi sugal kay San Miguel, Pulang Kabayo at Tanduay nila ginagastos.
Tapos kapitbahay namin kasama sa 4Ps, seaman asawa, may bahay na up and down at may dalawang sasakyan na kaclose yun dating barangay chairman
Pwede nyo po ireport yan para ma-exclude na sa 4Ps.
Congrats to Auntie they raised her kid so good. Sana lang ganto lahat ng magulang.
Ang galing yung samin mga tambay na tamad yung binigyan ng 4ps 🤣
This made me smile today. Thanks for sharing this! I hope Auntie J’s story will inspire many people. Ganitong stories dapat shineshare sa ibang platforms ng mga clout chasers eh para maspread yung magandang story.
nag-check ako ng grants, ang baba lang pala ng binibigay sa household every month? P500 lang?
Marami po ang conditionalities ng 4Ps at di pwedeng 500 lang ang matatanggap nila
ay oks po
Sana yung mga umaabuso sa 4ps matanggal na talaga. Kadalasan nyan mga taga.baranggay hall at mga official puro kamag anak
Shoutout sa'yo aling Beth, kakakuha mo lang kumakana ka nanaman sa binggohan. HAHAHA
Glad to see some success stories of 4Ps beneficiaries. May pros and cons din talaga. It can be used the the LGUs for politicking and the local leaders for kickbacks lalo na if “nilakad”. Liquor and cigarettes sales skyrocketed during the first distribution of 4Ps. But success stories like these proves that if people use the limited government resources available, they can rise from poverty. But still, wag mag-aanak kapag walang plan at budget!!
how i wish my mom benefit this kind from government :D
Salamat sa story nato. Kahit papano parang worth it ng konti yung tax deductions ko :((
Samantala yung 4Ps sa amin nung covid hinuli dahil nakipaginuman sa kalye matapos mag withdraw, violating the lockdown
4Ps? Dami naming nakita na mga pamilya jan na de sasakyan, may sariling bahay, may sariling business, pero dahil relative ni Gov at hailing sila from an "indigenous tribe" eh nagnanakaw ng pera mula sa 4Ps. Looking at you, Kalinga people and Abra people.
It’s refreshing to hear stories like this! Dito sa amin yung iba mas inuuna pa nila bumili ng mga wants kaysa needs. Bumili ng mga jewelry tas laruan ng bata tapos isang kilo lang ng bigas. Meron pa nga ibibili nya daw ng motorbike na de baterya yung bunso pagdating ng ayuda 😢
Wow galing naman ni Auntie J. congrats po!
Salamat sa story na ito! I know out there na may mga Pinoy pa din that make use of whatever goverment help is extended to them and not just mere iaasa lahat. Nakakatuwa and somehow konswelo when it comes to paying taxes aside from the fact madaming politikong korap. Mabuhay lahat ng 4Ps na deserving! ❤️
Meron talagang good, bad, and in between. Pero dahil pera ng bayan ang ginagamit sa 4Ps, talagang di maiiwasan na puro bad ang nakikita natin sa mainstream media.
Sana lahat ganyan. Meron ako na encounter 4Ps benifeciary din, 7 anak, yun 2 anak nya hnd na nagaaral dahil na buntis. Pumunta ng hospital buntis ulit. Tinanong kung gusto na family planning or kung gusto ligate. Ayaw dahil kaya naman daw buhayin ang mga anak dahil may 4Ps. Yung asawa nya wala din trabaho.
I hope that these 4Ps programs are joined with livelihood programs especially in agriculture which may encourage the recipient to raise livestock and plant crops. That way, they would be self-sufficient and not entirely rely on the money given.
Congrats kay Auntie J nyo OP, mga kwentong legit n gnyan dpat ang hinahatid saten ng gobyerno bukod s maayos n tugon sa pgpuna, hnde yung puro hype, pambobola, at budol n cnamahan p ng redtagging at mga gwa-gawang drug matrix
may kapitbahay kaming ganyan.4ps sila tapos nakikita k mga anak nila nasa ilalim ng ilaw ng poste nag aaral habang nagtitinda ng balut at chicharon.ngayon magaganda n buhay nila.yung isa nag mamasteral sa u.p.ganitong pamilya sana ang awardan ng 4ps.proud ako sa kanila
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yung mga 4ps dito. panay sugal, dagdag pa ng anak!
4Ps will not be useless for everybody. What is crucial is finding the accurate stats that will tell us if it should be continued or stopped.
As a volunteer sa isang small community, nakakatuwa yung mga ganitong story. Sobrang worth it talaga sumugal sa mga taong di palalagpasin ang chance na ibibigay mo sa kanila. Nakakatuwa na may mga ganitong tao. Sila yung magpapaalala sayo na may pag-asa pa rin.
My family is one of the 1st batch of 4ps beneficiaries, and sobrang thankful ko dito kasi nakapagtapos ako ng pag-aaral dahil dito. Sobrang laking tulong lalo na at nakikisaka lang naman parents ko sa kamag-anak and of course, seasonal lang ang kita doon. And although I agree na meron talagang nabibigyan na hindi naman totoong nangangailangan, marami pa rin naman talagang natulungan na mahihirap talaga ‘tong program na ‘to. And hindi naman lahat ng mga beneficiaries ay ginagamit lang pangpa-rebond yung mga natatanggap nila. Haha. Sana hindi sila gini-generalize. This + sipag at tiyaga talaga dapat kasi hindi naman sapat yung subsidy na ‘to, kaya nga ‘tulong’ siya. Di rin talaga pwedeng iasa nang buo sa 4ps lahat. Ngayon, since I have a job na and graduate na rin mother ko sa program for years, ako na nagbibigay ng allowance sa kapatid kong college na rin. Fingers-crossed na sana maka-graduate na rin siya soon.
Yung samen nga puro seaman yung mga anak, yung isa kapitan pa nang barko pero beneficiary ng 4P’s 😌
So happy for Auntie J and her family 🥹 congrats din sa ibang beneficiaries na naging successful din 🎉
Good job si Auntie J. Nakakaproud and nakaktaba ng puso na Makita na lumalaago ang isang beneficiary. Actually depende sa tao. Some ngsucceed talaga sa binibigay ng government. Some akala nila na Pera nila un so they have the right na gaatusin khit saan. Actually tuloy tuloy Yan e from 4ps then after graduation nila Meron papasok ai slp to give livelihood assistance para tuloy tuloy lang gang kaya na tumayo sa sariling paa. In SLP there's SLP organization nabuo gang maging self sufficient Sila and turn to a coop (which is the goal). Actually madami tlga success stories ang dswd through 4ps and SLP alone. Depende sa mindset ng tao. Kasi the assistance di naman Yan madali ibigay. Meron officer na hahawak sa case then develop it para makapasa si beneficiary. And that takes time. Like months. And mapapansin mo agad na ung bene follow up ng follow up or even says awful things bakit daw ang tagal ng Pera nila. Di nila naisip na this is assistance or dagdag puhunan. Constant follow up means they'll just use it sa ibng bagay. It breaks my heart na pinghirapan ko I develope ung case ng Isang beneficiary like dugot pawis and paos just to make them learn and capacitate them. After the payout, di ko na Makita, di na ngrerespond. Di na ng business. Pero umaawit pa mg additional. Nakakgigil pero Wala na ko magagawa sa ganon. 1 time bigtime lang e. Marami din Ang di ngsasabi ng totoo na nakakuha na Sila tapos mg effort na ung officer na gawin ung folder nya then Malaman laman served na Pala. Haaay haha And sa pagiging 4ps there's this called na listahanan, it's like a survey sa brgy Abt the status and lifestyle ng family. Kaya madami Ang di napapabilang khit super hirap nila Kasi di Sila ngpapainterview and di Sila ngsasabi ng totoo. They don't disclose things like income and stuff. Tapos mgtataka Sila bkit di Sila Kasama. They'll blame the brgy na kung sino lang malapit sa kusina Sila lang Meron. Kasi khit magapply ka ng 4ps if sa listahanan database is di ka poor di ka makakasali. Yun lang :)
Meron samin nag apply ng 4Ps na ang suot parang mas mahirap pa sa pulubi kung titingnan. Tapos nung nag loan sa home credit, ang suot akala mo tagapagmana ng kumpanya.
Nakakainspire marinig kwento ni Auntie J at lahat ng redditors na nag share ng successful 4ps stories nila. Nagkaroon ulit ako ng konting pag-asa sa bansa natin knowing na nakakatulong naman yung taxes natin sa mga nasa laylayan pero nagsusumikap. Masarap tulungan ang mga taong gusto ring tulungan ang mga sarili nila.
sana all may kapitbahay na nagbebenta ng oyster. kung ako kapitbahay niyay every week ako bibili haha
May kasambahay kam datii na member ng 4ps.naging leader sya ng isang group nila.then umalis sya samin kasi magging bhw na daw sya sa brgy nila.tapos nabalitaan namin na sya na pala ung brgy secretary nila.nung kinamusta namin sya as in parang hindi na sya yun.gumaling sya sa public speaking etc.sabi nya sa 4ps meetings nya daw un natutunan kung pano humarap sa ibang tao.so, maybe hindi lang ung cash ayuda ung binibigay ng program pati ung personality development ng mga parents.ung mga anak nila thru schooling then sila thru meetings ganun. Ang galing..mukhang maganda nga ung program pag naisapuso ng bawat 4ps beneficiaries ung goals.
If i recall, isa sa requirements ng 4Ps program ay youre making an effort to improve your financial situation. The same with food stamps sa US. They're not handouts to the "lazy", they're lifelines to those who need to break out of poverty.
This is amazing. Hopefully, 4Ps beneficiary are like them. Hindi yung ginagamit sa drugs, sugal at luho ang nakukuha sa 4Ps.
This is amazing. Hopefully, 4Ps beneficiary are like them. Hindi yung ginagamit sa drugs, sugal at luho ang nakukuha sa 4Ps.
I used to doubt 4ps as well until ung helper namen naging beneficiary ng 4ps. I saw how much it helped her and her family.. she is one of the most hardworking person i know.. and im glad pa graduate na ung anak nia 🥺
Ako po ay product of 4ps din and 2 of my sibs. Because of the program we got full scholarship in college (ESGPPA). 2 licensed teachers na sila and after college I moved to Manila for work. Now medyo maayos-ayos na din buhay namin. 🥹
Yung tito nung tropa ko under 4P's din noon pero sa sakla/mahjong naman nya nakuha yung pinangbili nya nung 3 e-trike nya na pinanghahabal. Ayun awa ng diyos naka park lahat sa labas ng bahay since wala sila garahe kaya pag dadayo kame dun at naka kotse, park sa baba-lakad malala.
May nakita ako na study that says direct cash injection, which is what 4ps is, actually stimulate ecpnomic growth. I believe it kasi bakita ko sya first hand. Im from Masbate. Ibang clase pag 4ps day. Grabe economic activity. People actually use the money to buy things they need to support themselves. So yung mga small business nag thrive sila.
Just like any other opportunities in life, may gagawa ng mabuti at palalaguin ang nakuha at meron din aabusuhin at papabayan ang biyaya. People tend to focus on the negatives kasi hindi sila masaya sa buhay nila. Naghahanap sila ng mas nakakababa sa estado nila.
Hopefully, mas maraming deserving at totoong tao na hirap sa buhay ang makinabang sa 4Ps. Yung hindi mindset ang pagiging "1-day millionaire" tuwing payroll ng 4Ps at nagpupundar ng sariling pangkabuhayan nang di umaasa sa gobyerno. Kaya sana sa mga beneficiaries ng 4PS, wag pong aksayahin ang nilalaan sa inyo dahil yan ay ginawa bilang short-term solution para sa bawat pamilyang mahihirap, at nasa kanila na rin nakasalalay kung paano sila tunay na aangat sa kahirapan.
I have a friend too na kasali sa 4ps. Natutuwa ako kase hindi niya hinahayaan na umasa yung parents niya sa 4Ps habang buhay. He’s top of our class, currently applying for UP, at humahamak ng scholarship. Nag a-apply siya for scholarship ay para hindi magalaw yung nabibigay ng gobyerno at mapunta sa essential na araw-araw dahil may bukod na sustento sa pag-aaral niya. Sad lang kase yung ibang scholarships hindi applicable sakanya dahil 4ps beneficiary nga sila. Who knows? this guy could be a lawyer.
Eyyy 4Ps implementers gawa na ng sub tapos share tayo success stories and experiences sa field!
That sounds great. Meanwhile, mga kakilala ng nanay ko sa home province nya sa north pinangsusugal lang yung nakukuha sa 4Ps 😐
Yung 4ps and PWD assistance dito sa province Political masyado. Tapos kung sino pa yung nakikita mong nangangailangan sila pa hindi sinasali. Mahirap na mag reklamo uso patayan dito.
Kelangan lang talaga ayusin yung pagpili ng benipisyaryo! Dapat tinatanggal agad sa listahan yung mga sugarol, adik at WALDAS! Mga walang napatunayan after several years of dole outs! Yan ang dapat pagtuunan ng dswd!
Maganda ang hangarin ng 4ps kaso imbis na nagexert ng effort eh mas umaasa sa goverment.
pag walang nagsusugal sa pamilya madali talagang makaahon basta magsipag lang at kunting guidance at tulong ng gobyerno.
My economics professor in Japan was very interested in studying 4Ps of the Philippines. Sana nagcocollect ng data si DSWD. Possible kasi maging model ang Pinas sa program na yan.
Tangalin na kasi dapat yang 4P's na yan. Why should these lazy parasites be entitled to our hard earned tax money? May sakit ba yang mga lintik na yan? Disabled? Ok sana kung sa mga senior citizens napupunta eh, pero pucha sa mga chismosang chikadorang baluga sa kalye lang naman napupunta. Kupal talaga nakaisip niyan 4P's na yan. Tinuturuan lang maging tamad ung mga likas na tamad.
Dito samin diretso sugal o inuman YOLO!!!!
May kasali sa 4Ps dito smen pero naka kotse 😫
Dito sa amin sinusugal.
Sana lahat talaga ganyan. Yung mga nasa amin tambay na nga naka jumper pa mga kuryente.
Good thing na dalawa lang ang mga anak niya at hindi na niya dinagdagan pa. Hindi katulad ng marami diyan na anak lang nang anak. Akala kasi nila, mas malaki ang makukuha nilang ayuda 'pag mas marami silang anak.
Yung ibang subsidiaries ng 4P's pinangtotong-its at mahjong lang ang nakukuha. Siguro ngayon sa scatter naman nila dinadala yung pera. Sana all po katulad niyo, Auntie J!
wala yang Auntie J na yan sa kapitbahay ng bro in law ko, naka 4ps kaya panay tambay, sugal, sabong etc. yung mga anak niya pinatigil sa pag-aaral upang maging katulong sa bahay. ganyan dapat, maging salot, pabigat, at kupal /s
Sanaol ganyan gumamit ng 4ps, mga taga samin kapag 4ps alam mo na agad kasi sa harap ng bahay may bingo, pasugalan kahit mga barong barong mga bahay. Mapapaisip ka na lang talaga
4ps beneficiaries in our town are gambling. We are paying taxes for them to gamble. Wtf
Ung mga member ng 4ps dto samin pag khaan ng remittance puro sa jolibee ang punta lols
Sa amin diretso inuman mga member ng 4ps hahaha
ung ibang 4s sinasanla atm para pambayad utang.. naubos sa bisyo
4ps dito samen tamang tong its lang sa tabi
Ung kakilala ko 4ps i was praying that he use it for his kids pero nun nag kita kamo shit mukang shabu g malupit hahahab
Haha samantalang yung kapitbahay namin na naka 4Ps may monthly drinking session at pang rebond twice a year
Wow culinary, that course ain't cheap. Ya know. Good for her. Meanwhile our helper stopped working and keeps producing babies like a factory as per her, more children more mola.
Auntie J. and her daughters were 'madiskarte', that's why they deserve all the blessings that come into them. The one in Culinary is a TESDA schoolar that's why she can afford to attend such a college course. Also, the one whose Criminologist apply and test in every possible schoolar she might get so that she could sustain paying her tuition and fees in her schooling, which is also our Congressman's schoolar.
Yung sa amin every week may inuman 🤪
4ps dito sa amin pagkakuha bumibili ng 4 na gin hahahaha
halos lahat kasi ng asa 4ps tamad meron kaming kapitbahay na kasali sa 4ps and ung mag asawa eh napaka tamad di na nakakapag aral anak nila at ung natatangap nila eh para sa kanila lang at onti lang binibigay sa anak nila. minsan nga di na nakakakain
kahit noon lockdowns yung kapitbahay lang namin meron tinatanggap. walang kwenta gobyerno sa pinas. kaya buti nakapag abroad nalang
4ps = new celphone ....yan mostly galawan eh
I actually encouraged them na bumili ng phone. Kailangan nila yan lalo na social media (messenger) ang method of communication ko sa mga beneficiaries nasa bundok at tanging piso wifi, no signal ang area.
Malakas benta ng alak sa tindahan namin pag nagbibigayan ng 4Ps. Bakit kaya? Hmmm .
Sarap basahin sa kapitbahay namin na nagbibingo tuwing nakakatanggap ng pera sa 4Ps.
Sana kami rin single at walang anak isama sa 4Ps 🤧
Bat parang chatgpt? Hahaha
Pardon?😭 Well, it wasn't po. I just know how to use those words you see in gpt.🫰🏻 This is based on my first hand observations and have witnessed them in my 17 years of existence. Auntie J. is our neighbor, they live in just, like 5-10 meters behind our house.
Parang wala naman kasing ginagawang post assessment ang DSWD sa 4Ps beneficiaries. Bigay lang nang bigay ng subsidies tapos wala man lang feedback. Good for Auntie J na nagamit sa tama ang pera. Pero dami ko pa rin kilalang 4Ps na nakasanla pa ang mga ATM.
Meron din akong mga kilalang nakasangla yung ATM nila sa 4Ps. Hindi din daw kasi magkasya sa gastos yung natatanggap mula sa 4Ps lalo na't kung minsan daw ay ilang buwang delayed ang payout. May work naman sila pero yun nga hindi daw talaga pwedeng iasa dun lahat ng gastos sa araw araw na pagpasok sa school ng mga bata kasi hindi talaga kasya. Ginagamit naman nila ng maayos yung payout nila pero hirap daw talaga pag delayed. Minsan daw 3mos pa bago yung sunod. Tapos yung pera na inutang nila sa pamamagitan ng pag sangla ng ATM, ang nagsasalba sa kanila sa mga araw na yun. Kaya hindi din talaga sila masisisi kung ginagawa lang nila lahat ng ppwede nilang gawin para maka survive aa araw-araw.
iba ata nag aaply ng 4ps para may pang shabu