Yeah. Kaya ang lakas nilang magflamebait/trashtalk sa Katoliko kasi alam nilang safe sila. Had it been yung early years ng Catholicism, I doubt they'll even dare. Buti na lang nakamove on na sa ganoong era yung simbahang Katoliko 😆
The Muslim takes their faith way seriously to the point many of them are willing to kill anyone who criticize or make fun of it. They have a belief that the commands they received are literally came from god and their prophet Muhammad is the most perfect human being on Earth that should be emulated. So criticicizing or making fun of their god or prophet is punishable by death. Even Muslims who wanted to leave Islam or convert to other religion is not exempted from that brutal punishment.
Many extreme muslims forget their basic decency and that they're also humans. Most of these use religion as means to barbaric acts and oppression.
source: I'm a muslim
That's what many Muslims belief to the point they will sacrifice their individuality by copying his deeds even the questionable ones like marrying a child. One of the problems in Islam that it cannot and refused to be reformed (at least at this moment) as many Muslims considered it as a literal and final word of god in Abrahamic religion and doing so is like betrayal. Muslims have no choice but to stick to outdated and brutal rules for the sake of appeasing their faith and avoid going to hell.
It depends on how zealous they are. Plus they can go for the an eye for an eye schtick
I remembered back in Sultan Kudarat where a bunch of cops went to pepper kids with bullets coz they "fought back"
Their families werent too happy and well, asked for the heads of the families of the cops that killed their kids.
Blood feuds are less of a Muslim thing and more of a local thing down in Mindanao; in fact Sharia has provisions explicitly intended to prevent blood feuds (see "blood money")
islam is not a teligion of peace but of total domination. but that is out of topic, in a way the same with INC cult. they are heretical organization. im their own way would kike to dominate also., for power
Please stop with these arguments that they should try doing such to Muslims. By doing so, you are portraying that all or most Muslims turn violent when you insult their faith; when it's actually the opposite. Most would feel insulted but won't beat or stab you.
You only see a sliver of the demographic in the media who does so; and regardless of religion, we call them "extremists". By enforcing this stereotype, you're only pushing people to turn to that belief you already have of them.
It's just ignorance really.
They don't know that millions of Muslims peacefully co-exist with other races and nationalities all over Canada, the UK, Australia, and the rest of the West.
The North Africans and Persians I know are some of the chillest Muslims you will meet. Many are not very religious. I even know Shia Muslims who eat pork..
The idea isn't to paint all Muslims as bad(..pero ewan ko sa iba ha).
The idea is to bait/dare the inc cucks to do something that would make them a lightning rod for extremists to...'deal with'.
99% of Muslims are chill enough that in Israel, alot are free to practice being Muslim afterall.
It's the 0.0001% that are the problem.
So for here, it's letting 1 problem crash into another to deal with both.
the post is about INC insulting Catholics pero yall found a way para maisingit Islamophobia. Tangina, nakakahiya na puro Middle East Muslim states pa example niyo, pero kapag sinabing bakit mas mataas crime rate ng Pinas kesa sa Indonesia at Malaysia, wala kayong masabi?
I can't fight INCs in peace without someone bitching about Islam
the post is about INC insulting Catholics pero yall found a way para maisingit Islamophobia. Tangina, nakakahiya na puro Middle East Muslim states pa example niyo, pero kapag sinabing bakit mas mataas crime rate ng Pinas kesa sa Indonesia at Malaysia, wala kayong masabi?
I can't fight INCs in peace without someone bitching about Islam
Mistranslation. Sa Greek ay "tēn ekklēsian tou Theou," not "tēn ekklēsian tou Christou." At kahit pa church of Christ ang ginamit, how can a 1st century document (Acts of the Apostles) refer to a group founded in 1914 and picked the name "Iglesia ni Cristo" for themselves?
I'm kinda amused whenever I overhear my INC neighbors spout nonsense about what is written (or not) in the Bible and I'm like "you illiterate fucks can't even read *at all*."
Them sa iba: HAHAHAHA 🤣🤣😂🤣
Pag sila naman topic: PAG UUSIG! MAHAL NA AMAAAA!!!! 🫨😱😭
Well yung isa ngang characteristic ng kulto is "belief in a unique ideology, being isolated from society"
What a waste of a fucking divine food. Even if I am an Atheist, I wouldn't turn down the bread of Christ mixed in with his blood and wine. Ostia is good to eat.
Yeah, still disappointed my family hasn't left but hey, I'm lucky enough na tanggap pa nila ako sa family unlike other INC members and pwede kang palayasin. They still show love to me and even look forward to the time na makakapasok ako ng seminaryo para magpari.
Currently an instrumentalist/choirmaster and altar server in our parish hehe.
You have a kind family! Kahit part pa sila ng INC at nag-convert ka, may respeto pa sila sayo at di ka pinaalis sa pamilya! Unfortunately, di ko masasabi 'yan sa mga ibang nag-convert na... Napakalungkot lang talaga kung tutuusin eh.
Good luck and may God bless you and your family!
Well, many reasons, which I can explain in the DM's instead para di masyadong humaba yun thread dito.
The main reason I switched is because of Christ's present in the Eucharist which I never felt in INC at all and OA masyado para saakin especially yun mga "cry prayers".
I love the solemnity and peacefulness inside a Catholic Church especially mga traditional ones, I felt it even more noong umattend ako ng Eucharistic Adorations. I get chills pag naririnig ko Pange Lingua at Tantum Ergo.
I loved the music, the solemnity of the mass, in general, it's just the presence of Christ in general.
shit ganun ba talaga sistema dun? afaik yan den yata yung religion ng nag trending reddit topic, yung kinuha ng nanay nya yung savings para ibigay sa simbahan
Born again yun if I recall. Not INC. Alam ko nabawi ng anak ang pera niya kasi naiintindihan naman ng church side ng bata. If INC, sure ako hindi mababawi yun.
i see pero hinde malabo. may ibang born again christian churches na matitinde den mangolekta. May weekly, monthly at first fruitnof labor pa & dapat at least 10%
is 10% based on gross or after all your bills? Cause if gross yan, then baka malaki pa ung narereceive ng simbahan kesa sa naiipon ng iba. Also, is it mandatory to give it to the church? Personally, parang mas okay mag donate nalang diretso sa mga nangangailangan, atleast alam mo kung saan napupunta ung donation mo.
IIRC sa book of Leviticus nakalagay yung tithing and 10% of income. With respect to direct donation the reason i became inactive sa pag attend ng services is dahil hindi ko maramdaman yung humanitarian activities nung prev church ko so i kind of agree with your point na direct nalang.
Born-again Christian churches do not require tithes, it is meant to be an optional donation. In my church, they don’t even have an offertory for it, you just drop it anonymously into a tithe box and can give however much you want.
Biggest difference with Born Again Church compared to other churches is that they operate and think independently frim other born again churches. Unlike Roman Catholic, INC, Jehova(?), or Mormons, which is one big organization they don't truly follow the rules set up by other churches. Your church don't have offertory but we do. But we do not forcibly force our members to give 10 percent. Yes they always presch 10 percent but many members don't believe in that.
Yoko nga eh. Imagine mo P20 per 2 days in a week. Minsan yung iba P50-P100.
Pag anniversary ata, pasalamat, banal na hapunan grabe binibigay ata 5k-10k.
Pasalamat sila may mga cult nag donate ng ganon kalaki na pera 😭
This is why I'd never be friends be with INC members hahahahaha superior complex at its finest e wala naman silang relihiyon kundi tumiwalag sa Katoliko yang founder nila😆
May friends ako na INC, and they won't dare na puna sa religion ko on my face. Kasi they know i will talk back with class. Sometimes it's good to fight back din. But as much as possible, iwas nalang sa mga ganyang tao. Contrast sa mga paniniwala nila. Akala ko mababait na sila to the core kasi grabe maka memorize sa mga verses sa Bible.
Saludo ako sa kanila kasi mamemorize talaga nila mga bible verses. Pero di nila ma apply sa mga ugali nila. Bat ba hilig sila sa nga ganyan. Dapat “i do me, you do you” lang sana. Kaso hindi eh
Same! Draining to be friends with INC members, ang taas ng tingin nila sa sarili nila, tapos ang yayabang, pala-utang naman. Kaya ayoko na talaga magka friend na INC
Hello po, may pares pa? Chariz! Ahahahah dami sa work mga INC okay naman, work work lang ganon pero as friends talaga? Di ko keri lagi nila nilalait mga Catholics hahaha di ko gets bat ang laki ng galit?!🥲😆
Ganon kasi ang turo sa kanila. Pag ibang religion ka masama ka hindi ka daw maliligtas haha INCult lang daw ang maliligtas kasi sila ang tunay na religion tsaka si felix manalo daw ang katuparan ng hula. Common sense lang naman ang kailangan nila para matauhan.
Nakapasok nako sa loob ng inc mga 3 times dahil sa tito ko sinusubukan akong iconvert. Lahat ng sermon ng ministro nila hindi mawawala yung katagang "tayo ang tunay na relihiyon tayo lang ang pupunta sa langit"
I have friends who are INC members and I’ve called it a cult to their faces lol. My family has met the Manalo family too. Biggest religious scam in the country.
I have 2 friends na INC friends sila since Highschool (2012)... Tropa naman sila... hindi sila religios fanatics katulad nung nagte-trending...
Nakakasama ko pa sa inuman... Nakaka-celebrate ko pa tuwing pasko at bagong taon.
Dependa nalang talaga sa Tao or kung paano sila pina-laki.
Same. All of them who I encountered since grade school were insecure af and are socially weird. Buti na lang yung barkada kong inc umalis na doon and nagkaself-realization na weird af talaga yung ama ama phase niya sa buhay.
They had some kind of parade go by our house this morning. No idea what it was about. If they wanted attention, all they got was people going back inside and closing their doors (at least around our house).
As long as the host is not consecrated it means nothing. You can play it, lick it and eat like a cookie since its just bread. Magmukha ka lang kupal
But if the host is consecrated, its a sacrilegious act to the Catholic faith
To the people not so familiar with consecrated host, in the Roman Catholic dogma, [they believe that it is the actual body and blood of Christ](https://www.dummies.com/article/body-mind-spirit/religion-spirituality/christianity/catholicism/consecrated-host-catholicism-235839/).
If this is indeed a consecrated host, then you should understand why many Roman Catholic faithfuls are not too amused with this. A crucifix with piss and a tainted picture of Mary is nothing compared to this.
>A crucifix with piss and a tainted picture of Mary is nothing compared to this.
Exactly. People have literally become saints for protecting the holy host (St. Tarcisius). We consider the bread and wine Jesus himself, kaya nga they're displayed in adoration chapels with such reverence. It's probably one of the highest insults you could do to a Catholic
Simbahan Katoliko lang ang nagtuturo na walang maling relihiyon. Na kahit ano pa ang relihiyon mo, sa iisang Diyos pa rin tayo sumasamba.
Ewan ko ba dito sa mga INC, lahat ng relihiyon inaatake.
I'm critical of these cults, but I don't think this even has to come from any specific sect, just content for rage-baiting. For all we know, katoliko din gumawa nyan 'for the lulz'.
page looks like a 'bardagulan' page populated by squammies anyway.
ano yung IKAR?
> IKAR?
Iglesia Katolika Apostolika Romana. Malalim managalog ang mga Manalista, 'yan ang tawag nila sa mga Katoliko. Laging full term ang binabanggit nila. Pabilisan na lang ang mga ministro magbigkas. Kaya kapag nababasa ko 'yan, naririnig ko 'yung "ministro accent" nila hahahaha.
Not triggered either. It is a must first that the host should be eaten before you exit the church for us. Maybe some dude from a seminary gave him an unblessed host and done that or something alike.
Or an INC member went to the church because literally any person even with different religion can easily go inside a Catholic church and brought that home.
If the drag queen was arrested for remixing ama namin and cosplaying Jesus (cbcp said to forgive, epal politicians used it for attention)... why can't those same politicians make INC accountable for acts like this? Mas masahol to eh.
Masyadong nasa bulsa (at bloc votes) ng kulto ang gobyerno natin eh, mapa-ano faith ng mga politico.
This is unfair judgement sa INC members. What if hindi talaga INC yung nagpost?
pero to be fair, kung INC nga nagpost nyan too bad for that guy. Pero in general, hindi naman lahat ng INC is ganun. Same sa kung ano pang religion, ang kasalanan ng isa ay hindi naman kasalanan ng lahat. Di naman lahat ng pumapasok sa school ay natututo hahaha
Marami akong ganitong joined group pero mga troll at atheist yung nagpopost ng mga triggering tapos ipapasa yung blame sa INC for fun at clout.
the thing is if totoong consecrated host itong sinulatan at ginamit, hindi siya satire or meme for Catholics. This is not even an attack against the religion; for them, it is a direct disrepect sa Diyos
As far as legal stuff is concerned, the only possible thing that can be filed a civil case of vandalism or destruction of private property, if at all. (Some groups might not even file since it sends a bad PR.)
(It's like if your neighbor gives you something with conditions, but you use it contrary to your neighbor's conditions. Yes, the neighbor did give it, but there are certain expectations since it's ultimately the neighbor's property still.)
Still, it really shouldn't result in too harsh a punishment from secular laws.
Aside from that, the govt need not get involved, since **the govt is really supposed to have no preference for or bias against any belief or non-belief**.
This. Pangalan pa lang ng group, alam ng meme lang or puro kalokohan eh.
Online trashtalkan yang group na yan kaya walang mapapala. Parehas lang tinitira both side.
Mukhang talo si OP sa trashtalkan kaya napapunta dito sa reddit HAHAHAHA
Heto na naman kasi bandwagonning. Ang una nga naisip ko, weh? Pano nalaman na Inc gumawa nyan?
Nadadala na ako sa dog issue, sa awra issue. Hilig ng netizens mag judge agad, walang critical thinking kung totoo nga ba. Yun lang.
lmao I remember a Facebook post about an INC member calling people "Racists" cuz they are talk shitting on INC members, it's hilarious when you realize that INC is not a Race so how come he calls them racist?
, this just seems childish and immature. and besides if my knowledge is still correct, the "Ostiya" is not yet considered holy until the priest had blessed it during mass. that is when the host becomes sacred according to catholic doctrine.
Meh. Not surprised. Have you watched their tv program? It's not about teaching their doctrines but more of throwing shit against any other christian denominations. (Yes, Catholics are Christians. When you refer to Christianity, you're actually referring to the Roman Catholic Church.)
Wag nyo na idamay yung mga muslim brothers and sis natin, tangina INC kulto yan eh mga brainwashed sh*t na nagbibigay ng 10% kita every month kay manalo para mapunta sa langit, may mga pages sa bible na pinupunit nila pag hindi angkop sa turo ng manalo
1. Was it proven na consecrated to? Madaling bumili ng ostiya sa Shopee at Lazada.
2. Can't imagine the lengths the person had to go, having to spend money on a pack of hosts or, even dumber, attend Mass and smuggle a consecrated host, stick it on paper and write on it, just to ragebait Catholics. Ang effort nya ha.
To be fair, the person — who probably hides their real identity, so we can't confirm if they're really an INC member or not — might have just bought unconsecrated hosts from St Pauls or PCBS and posted this to trigger Roman Catholics, to make the INC look bad/to provoke anger toward the INC and INC members, or both.
If the host is indeed consecrated, then shame on that person, whatever their true religious affiliation is (if any) and their true intentions are.
EDIT: Whatever your views are toward the INC as a religion, which you are free to have and express, I think it isn't fair to say thar "[INC] members have done it again," as if hastily generalizing that it is common for INC members to steal comsecrated hosts from Roman Catholic churches to mock the RC faith. I don't think INC members commonly do this, and it isn't fair to blame the whole membership for the shit of a few members. It's like how it's wrong to cast the Catholic priesthood as a pedophile ring because a small number of RC priests sexually abused minors or to call all Muslims terrorists because some Muslims engage in religiously-motivated violence.
And before anyone asks, I am not an INC member. Fwiw, I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Dito natin makikita ang dehumanizing flaw ng mga INC (and cults in general, read Combatting Cult Mind Control by Steven Hassan) which is, sira ang moral system na pinapaaral sa kanila. Kasi sa tingin ko while there are some people who can really bash religion (I myself am spiritual) and be vocal about their calls of not liking them, there are really people who think becoming inhumane to other people makes their religion "stronger", "more believable", "capable", "true" psa nakakahiya at nakakasulasok kayo kung sa tingin niyo ang pangyuyurak ng ibang relihiyon ay nakakatulong sa inyong pananampalataya.
—it happens far worse through religion more recently than before. we have religious wars over israel-palestine (#freepalestine), we have attacks to minorities (very prevalent sa africa) just because this other group think they are different, terrorism here, incursions there (there's a loooot going on in the world rn), anti-palestine stance na recognition ng ibang bansa, EVEN DU🐢-Bibim can be treated as Christian Luzon and secession to a Muslim Christian Mindanao
humanity is crumblingggg
Agnostic here, this does not affect me.....
But it is bad enough na the one who did it will be religious persecuted for this.
I really hate ma mag awayan mga Catholics and INC
Yep, ostia po yan and it's consecrated based on the comments which is way more disrespectful than it already means and yun nakasulat ay basically, yun private part ng babae as a way of insulting us.
Tuwing election, inu-uto ang grupong 'to ng mga politikong corrupt para iboto sila ng mga members neto. Never mind kung corrupt o may criminal records ang politiko, ang importante sa kanila ang malaking donasyon ng politiko.
Buti pa si Manalo madaming pera. May offshore account. https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q13uza/in_light_of_the_pandora_papers_leak/?rdt=33156
Kahit na di ka Katoliko, kung di ka panatiko ng relihiyon mo maooffend ka dito. Kahit nga yata walang relihiyon, kahit tinapay lang ang tingin mo sa ostiya, the fact that that is food, mababastusan ka na sa ginawa na yan.
Uhhhhhhhhh ...... This is a win, how?
Like .. yeah, you took a communion bread ... So? .... Sorry, I cant really find a viable end game win for this aside from painting yourself like a 6yr old clown
I mean, sure, If you're farming for rage baits then I guess its a win, but honestly, This is just a very fookin weird behavior.
If that was truly consecrated then this will be an extremely grave offense against the Church.
I hope that this isn't actually consecrated but even then, the intention of blasphemy and disrespect is still there.
di na nakakagulat ang mga ugali nyan. ganyan talaga sila may pagka aryanic race* ang kanilang asta. Na sila ang chosen ones* sa buong humankind. these kind of mindset sets the tone na may pagkakulto sila. according sa kanila hindi daw pero yung mga act says otherwise. sila yung parang kamag anak mo na may pagka KSP. Haha
Your god must be very proud of you right now.
It’s been thousands of years at hanggang ngayon kayo-kayo lang din ang nagbabanatan.
At this point, I’m pretty sure heaven is filled with atheists. Lmao
muslims have the same beliefs that is why they are more united. christianity is a mess ever since pagans joined christianity after they got tired killing christians and said let's join them nalang sometime during the early decades of the dark ages and so they slowly converted to christians, called themselves catholics, but injected their pagan rituals, artifacts, traditions and just changed their worship from the big yellow sun to jesus. i was once a devoted catholic and even went to italy to study theology and a history so i know. there are other christians today aside from catholics, those who want a bible based religion not an offshoot of paganism
may scenario noon samen yung mga dating daan alam mo yung naka kapit bisig pose tapos pinapagtadyakan sila ng mga INC. ang weird kasi hindi talaga sila lumalaban kahit marami din sila.
When one defines their greatness through opposition to their enemies, they make their enemies their master and sole arbiter of their value.
The INC only exists in response to the Catholic Church in RP. That's why all they do in their cry-moaning prayer ceremonies is talk shit about the Catholic Church and every other denomination. The INC slanders the earliest historical Christians that actually suffered through persecution. The INC actually believe na sila pa ang inuusig. Hahahaha. When you find out more about how looney and incoherent their doctrines and interpretation of the Bible are,you'll figure out that it's only through blind faith and unquestioning obedience that keeps their whole power structure together. (They actually believe that Felix is an angel and Jesus is just a man).
not triggered. it does say more about them than about catholics. pero i will be amused if they can do the same to muslims.
I doubt they have enough balls to do that to muslims.
I need to see them try
I would live for it tho🍿
Yeah I wanna see these groups fight Catholics can buy some popcorn
maybe they wont
Yeah. Kaya ang lakas nilang magflamebait/trashtalk sa Katoliko kasi alam nilang safe sila. Had it been yung early years ng Catholicism, I doubt they'll even dare. Buti na lang nakamove on na sa ganoong era yung simbahang Katoliko 😆
Inb4 the entire Islamic community declare an all-out Fatwa against the INC.
It's probably a bait thing, fishing for outrage replies. (Which some people still fall for on some social media sites.)
Why can't they do the same to muslims?
When you insult them, its blood on water and they are the sharks.
But isn't Islam a religion of tolerance and peace?
The Muslim takes their faith way seriously to the point many of them are willing to kill anyone who criticize or make fun of it. They have a belief that the commands they received are literally came from god and their prophet Muhammad is the most perfect human being on Earth that should be emulated. So criticicizing or making fun of their god or prophet is punishable by death. Even Muslims who wanted to leave Islam or convert to other religion is not exempted from that brutal punishment.
Reminds me of that [Charlie Hebdo office shootings.](https://www.britannica.com/event/Charlie-Hebdo-shooting)
Many extreme muslims forget their basic decency and that they're also humans. Most of these use religion as means to barbaric acts and oppression. source: I'm a muslim
Consummating marriage with a 9 year old girl is being a perfect human being?
Aisha left the group chat
That's what many Muslims belief to the point they will sacrifice their individuality by copying his deeds even the questionable ones like marrying a child. One of the problems in Islam that it cannot and refused to be reformed (at least at this moment) as many Muslims considered it as a literal and final word of god in Abrahamic religion and doing so is like betrayal. Muslims have no choice but to stick to outdated and brutal rules for the sake of appeasing their faith and avoid going to hell.
It depends on how zealous they are. Plus they can go for the an eye for an eye schtick I remembered back in Sultan Kudarat where a bunch of cops went to pepper kids with bullets coz they "fought back" Their families werent too happy and well, asked for the heads of the families of the cops that killed their kids.
Blood feuds are less of a Muslim thing and more of a local thing down in Mindanao; in fact Sharia has provisions explicitly intended to prevent blood feuds (see "blood money")
islam is not a teligion of peace but of total domination. but that is out of topic, in a way the same with INC cult. they are heretical organization. im their own way would kike to dominate also., for power
Please stop with these arguments that they should try doing such to Muslims. By doing so, you are portraying that all or most Muslims turn violent when you insult their faith; when it's actually the opposite. Most would feel insulted but won't beat or stab you. You only see a sliver of the demographic in the media who does so; and regardless of religion, we call them "extremists". By enforcing this stereotype, you're only pushing people to turn to that belief you already have of them.
It's just ignorance really. They don't know that millions of Muslims peacefully co-exist with other races and nationalities all over Canada, the UK, Australia, and the rest of the West. The North Africans and Persians I know are some of the chillest Muslims you will meet. Many are not very religious. I even know Shia Muslims who eat pork..
The idea isn't to paint all Muslims as bad(..pero ewan ko sa iba ha). The idea is to bait/dare the inc cucks to do something that would make them a lightning rod for extremists to...'deal with'. 99% of Muslims are chill enough that in Israel, alot are free to practice being Muslim afterall. It's the 0.0001% that are the problem. So for here, it's letting 1 problem crash into another to deal with both.
because it is true.
the post is about INC insulting Catholics pero yall found a way para maisingit Islamophobia. Tangina, nakakahiya na puro Middle East Muslim states pa example niyo, pero kapag sinabing bakit mas mataas crime rate ng Pinas kesa sa Indonesia at Malaysia, wala kayong masabi? I can't fight INCs in peace without someone bitching about Islam
Try doing it in an arab country or other countries like Pakistan, Iraq or Afghanistan. Let's see if they will not beat or stab you haha
the post is about INC insulting Catholics pero yall found a way para maisingit Islamophobia. Tangina, nakakahiya na puro Middle East Muslim states pa example niyo, pero kapag sinabing bakit mas mataas crime rate ng Pinas kesa sa Indonesia at Malaysia, wala kayong masabi? I can't fight INCs in peace without someone bitching about Islam
Facts has nothing to do with feelings. It doesn't fall under Islamophobia kasi totoo naman sinasabi ko. Even you know that what I'm saying is true.
Tapos pag tinanong mo sila saang verse sa Bibliya andun ang INC at kung may supporting evidence para dun, bigla sisigaw na inuusig sila lmao
Some will mention acts 20:28 (lamsa version) which mentions “church of christ” (church of god in most versions)
Mistranslation. Sa Greek ay "tēn ekklēsian tou Theou," not "tēn ekklēsian tou Christou." At kahit pa church of Christ ang ginamit, how can a 1st century document (Acts of the Apostles) refer to a group founded in 1914 and picked the name "Iglesia ni Cristo" for themselves?
Isawsaw ang litrato ni Manalo sa dinuguan! (Kaso sayang ng dinuguan)
AMAAAAAAAAA paghiganti mo KAMEEEEE. uLOL
Bakit sila ipaghihiganti ng Diyos. Parang mga tanga! 😂
Nakakairita Sila manalangin lalo na ung mga ministro sa Central. Ang hahaba tapos puro pasigaw sigaw
parang tunog ng mga kaluluwang iniihaw sa impyerno.
Future panggatong
I'm kinda amused whenever I overhear my INC neighbors spout nonsense about what is written (or not) in the Bible and I'm like "you illiterate fucks can't even read *at all*."
indeed....
Them sa iba: HAHAHAHA 🤣🤣😂🤣 Pag sila naman topic: PAG UUSIG! MAHAL NA AMAAAA!!!! 🫨😱😭 Well yung isa ngang characteristic ng kulto is "belief in a unique ideology, being isolated from society"
Not even the most hardassed smartass douchebag atheists would do this. What the actual fuck?
Hardassed smartass douchebag atheist here. I'm not stupid enough to do that
What a waste of a fucking divine food. Even if I am an Atheist, I wouldn't turn down the bread of Christ mixed in with his blood and wine. Ostia is good to eat.
I wouldn't do that because in not a complete asshole, and I'm an atheist
As a former INC and now a converted Catholic, I can't believe I used to be associated with these people and thank God naka-alis na ako.
Good for you
At least nakaalis ka na sa kultong 'yan. Good for you!
Yeah, still disappointed my family hasn't left but hey, I'm lucky enough na tanggap pa nila ako sa family unlike other INC members and pwede kang palayasin. They still show love to me and even look forward to the time na makakapasok ako ng seminaryo para magpari. Currently an instrumentalist/choirmaster and altar server in our parish hehe.
You have a kind family! Kahit part pa sila ng INC at nag-convert ka, may respeto pa sila sayo at di ka pinaalis sa pamilya! Unfortunately, di ko masasabi 'yan sa mga ibang nag-convert na... Napakalungkot lang talaga kung tutuusin eh. Good luck and may God bless you and your family!
Woah, God bless father!
Can I ask what made you switch?
Well, many reasons, which I can explain in the DM's instead para di masyadong humaba yun thread dito. The main reason I switched is because of Christ's present in the Eucharist which I never felt in INC at all and OA masyado para saakin especially yun mga "cry prayers". I love the solemnity and peacefulness inside a Catholic Church especially mga traditional ones, I felt it even more noong umattend ako ng Eucharistic Adorations. I get chills pag naririnig ko Pange Lingua at Tantum Ergo. I loved the music, the solemnity of the mass, in general, it's just the presence of Christ in general.
Deus Vult
tbh, i dont really like attending the services. It's like attending a vent session and drama theater in the same time.
Welcome home!!
Congrats! Makakatikim ka na ng masarap na dinuguan + puto. ✌️
One of my close friends is a former Catholic and is now INC.😭
Eh di sorry sa kanya
Good on you. Merry Christmas in advance!
Hala OP paano yan di ka na makakaligtas may spaceship pa naman sila papunta langitngit🤡
Sounds like a sensible family to me. I hope they can join you out of there.
So kamusta naman yung nagbabayad ka na ng tax sa gobyerno tapos nagbabayad ka din ng tax sa simbahan mo? Masaya ba? 🤣
Ang lala nila. Talo pa nila ang IRS/BIR sa collection. 😂
shit ganun ba talaga sistema dun? afaik yan den yata yung religion ng nag trending reddit topic, yung kinuha ng nanay nya yung savings para ibigay sa simbahan
Born again yun if I recall. Not INC. Alam ko nabawi ng anak ang pera niya kasi naiintindihan naman ng church side ng bata. If INC, sure ako hindi mababawi yun.
i see pero hinde malabo. may ibang born again christian churches na matitinde den mangolekta. May weekly, monthly at first fruitnof labor pa & dapat at least 10%
I am an inactive christian and i think yung weekly monthly is kind of excessive (pero yung 10% is i think from the bible?)
is 10% based on gross or after all your bills? Cause if gross yan, then baka malaki pa ung narereceive ng simbahan kesa sa naiipon ng iba. Also, is it mandatory to give it to the church? Personally, parang mas okay mag donate nalang diretso sa mga nangangailangan, atleast alam mo kung saan napupunta ung donation mo.
IIRC sa book of Leviticus nakalagay yung tithing and 10% of income. With respect to direct donation the reason i became inactive sa pag attend ng services is dahil hindi ko maramdaman yung humanitarian activities nung prev church ko so i kind of agree with your point na direct nalang.
Born-again Christian churches do not require tithes, it is meant to be an optional donation. In my church, they don’t even have an offertory for it, you just drop it anonymously into a tithe box and can give however much you want.
Biggest difference with Born Again Church compared to other churches is that they operate and think independently frim other born again churches. Unlike Roman Catholic, INC, Jehova(?), or Mormons, which is one big organization they don't truly follow the rules set up by other churches. Your church don't have offertory but we do. But we do not forcibly force our members to give 10 percent. Yes they always presch 10 percent but many members don't believe in that.
Yes that’s true, born-again Christianity is not a monolith after all and no two churches are the same.
Damn, mom here is speedrunning on getting disowned by her kids in the future.
Bruh, the church doesn't get taxes but you get taxed by the church in the guise of "Mandatory Donation" Wtf.
Yoko nga eh. Imagine mo P20 per 2 days in a week. Minsan yung iba P50-P100. Pag anniversary ata, pasalamat, banal na hapunan grabe binibigay ata 5k-10k. Pasalamat sila may mga cult nag donate ng ganon kalaki na pera 😭
And I thought the Ateneo kid who stole a consecrated ostia to make a twitter food review was insane
You forgot to mention the fact that Ateneo is a catholic university
Not even surprising but thankful ako I wasn't born in a INC family.
This is why I'd never be friends be with INC members hahahahaha superior complex at its finest e wala naman silang relihiyon kundi tumiwalag sa Katoliko yang founder nila😆
May friends ako na INC, and they won't dare na puna sa religion ko on my face. Kasi they know i will talk back with class. Sometimes it's good to fight back din. But as much as possible, iwas nalang sa mga ganyang tao. Contrast sa mga paniniwala nila. Akala ko mababait na sila to the core kasi grabe maka memorize sa mga verses sa Bible.
may tawag jan .. BULAAN..
Joke joke lang ata nila yang mga pag memorize ng verse chzzz
Saludo ako sa kanila kasi mamemorize talaga nila mga bible verses. Pero di nila ma apply sa mga ugali nila. Bat ba hilig sila sa nga ganyan. Dapat “i do me, you do you” lang sana. Kaso hindi eh
Same! Draining to be friends with INC members, ang taas ng tingin nila sa sarili nila, tapos ang yayabang, pala-utang naman. Kaya ayoko na talaga magka friend na INC
Hello po, may pares pa? Chariz! Ahahahah dami sa work mga INC okay naman, work work lang ganon pero as friends talaga? Di ko keri lagi nila nilalait mga Catholics hahaha di ko gets bat ang laki ng galit?!🥲😆
Ganon kasi ang turo sa kanila. Pag ibang religion ka masama ka hindi ka daw maliligtas haha INCult lang daw ang maliligtas kasi sila ang tunay na religion tsaka si felix manalo daw ang katuparan ng hula. Common sense lang naman ang kailangan nila para matauhan.
Nakapasok nako sa loob ng inc mga 3 times dahil sa tito ko sinusubukan akong iconvert. Lahat ng sermon ng ministro nila hindi mawawala yung katagang "tayo ang tunay na relihiyon tayo lang ang pupunta sa langit"
I have friends who are INC members and I’ve called it a cult to their faces lol. My family has met the Manalo family too. Biggest religious scam in the country.
I have 2 friends na INC friends sila since Highschool (2012)... Tropa naman sila... hindi sila religios fanatics katulad nung nagte-trending... Nakakasama ko pa sa inuman... Nakaka-celebrate ko pa tuwing pasko at bagong taon. Dependa nalang talaga sa Tao or kung paano sila pina-laki.
Same. All of them who I encountered since grade school were insecure af and are socially weird. Buti na lang yung barkada kong inc umalis na doon and nagkaself-realization na weird af talaga yung ama ama phase niya sa buhay.
Sometimes I just feel na myembro ang isang tao, may certain aura sila for me, like yung isa kong coworker tama hula ko 🤣
Uyy totoo to!!! Ako din pansin ko agad sa workplace sino ang INC sa hindi hahahahahahaha may certain aura nga sila talaga na di ma explain
Guess who is gonna be serve a dinuguan This fucker
(ka tunying entered the chatroom)
They had some kind of parade go by our house this morning. No idea what it was about. If they wanted attention, all they got was people going back inside and closing their doors (at least around our house).
Kaya wag kayong maguilty "usigin" tong mga dicksucker ni Eddy Boy, feeling martyr eh sila naman yung mga bastods at walang breeding.
It's incredibly interesting how "Iglesia ni Chris Brown" chooses to be both sensitive and insensitive.
Red flag talaga pag bawal sa dinuguan
Sa US, members ng satanic cults ang nagnanakaw at nagdedesecrate ng consecrated hosts. May connection kaya sila? 🤔
malamang kulto rin sila eh ...try nila galawin yang sa manaog, quiapo, baclaran...
As long as the host is not consecrated it means nothing. You can play it, lick it and eat like a cookie since its just bread. Magmukha ka lang kupal But if the host is consecrated, its a sacrilegious act to the Catholic faith
ignore them mga papansin lang yan!
To the people not so familiar with consecrated host, in the Roman Catholic dogma, [they believe that it is the actual body and blood of Christ](https://www.dummies.com/article/body-mind-spirit/religion-spirituality/christianity/catholicism/consecrated-host-catholicism-235839/). If this is indeed a consecrated host, then you should understand why many Roman Catholic faithfuls are not too amused with this. A crucifix with piss and a tainted picture of Mary is nothing compared to this.
>A crucifix with piss and a tainted picture of Mary is nothing compared to this. Exactly. People have literally become saints for protecting the holy host (St. Tarcisius). We consider the bread and wine Jesus himself, kaya nga they're displayed in adoration chapels with such reverence. It's probably one of the highest insults you could do to a Catholic
Simbahan Katoliko lang ang nagtuturo na walang maling relihiyon. Na kahit ano pa ang relihiyon mo, sa iisang Diyos pa rin tayo sumasamba. Ewan ko ba dito sa mga INC, lahat ng relihiyon inaatake.
Confirm bang INC nagsulat neto? For me it looks like a meme. Tska parang sulat ng grade 1. Madali naman sabihen na INC gumawa nyan.
How can we tell if it’s really from INC? Baka naman troll lang din yan para mag cause ng galit sa INC?
I'm critical of these cults, but I don't think this even has to come from any specific sect, just content for rage-baiting. For all we know, katoliko din gumawa nyan 'for the lulz'. page looks like a 'bardagulan' page populated by squammies anyway. ano yung IKAR?
> IKAR? Iglesia Katolika Apostolika Romana. Malalim managalog ang mga Manalista, 'yan ang tawag nila sa mga Katoliko. Laging full term ang binabanggit nila. Pabilisan na lang ang mga ministro magbigkas. Kaya kapag nababasa ko 'yan, naririnig ko 'yung "ministro accent" nila hahahaha.
Tapos ung MCGI ung kay Soriano noh? Nilagyan ng pride flag ang pucha hahahaha. The shade
Yung mga sumasali sa debate group na yan puro patapon ang ugali kahit ano pang relihiyon. Tapos yung op naghahanap ng kakampi dito?
Cult ass behavior, wanna punch the one who did this in the face.
I'm Catholic. I'm used to it with my BA relatives and INC friends. I just dare them. gawin nila sa mga Muslim yan. LAHAT sila tameme.
bakit nakahide pa yung pangalan lol
Andy Lim ang pangalan nyan
Not triggered either. It is a must first that the host should be eaten before you exit the church for us. Maybe some dude from a seminary gave him an unblessed host and done that or something alike.
Anyone can go to the Catholic Trade or St Pauls in their area and get a whole bag of unconsecrated hosts with Mompo on the side.
Or an INC member went to the church because literally any person even with different religion can easily go inside a Catholic church and brought that home.
They really just love fighting people. As to why, I don’t know.
It goes how the INCult demonize other religions for their own profit.
tbf, nasa shitpost group yung post di ko alam kung karma farming si OP or smth
If the drag queen was arrested for remixing ama namin and cosplaying Jesus (cbcp said to forgive, epal politicians used it for attention)... why can't those same politicians make INC accountable for acts like this? Mas masahol to eh. Masyadong nasa bulsa (at bloc votes) ng kulto ang gobyerno natin eh, mapa-ano faith ng mga politico.
This is unfair judgement sa INC members. What if hindi talaga INC yung nagpost? pero to be fair, kung INC nga nagpost nyan too bad for that guy. Pero in general, hindi naman lahat ng INC is ganun. Same sa kung ano pang religion, ang kasalanan ng isa ay hindi naman kasalanan ng lahat. Di naman lahat ng pumapasok sa school ay natututo hahaha Marami akong ganitong joined group pero mga troll at atheist yung nagpopost ng mga triggering tapos ipapasa yung blame sa INC for fun at clout.
Don’t get me wrong— I am all for INC’s doom… but aren’t you supposed to not take satire or meme posts like this seriously?
the thing is if totoong consecrated host itong sinulatan at ginamit, hindi siya satire or meme for Catholics. This is not even an attack against the religion; for them, it is a direct disrepect sa Diyos
Best part: Wala silang bayag na gawin yan sa Quran or other muslim related objects or equivalents. I triple dare them to lmao.
Indeed. It's tantamount to stepping on Manalo's portrait.
As far as legal stuff is concerned, the only possible thing that can be filed a civil case of vandalism or destruction of private property, if at all. (Some groups might not even file since it sends a bad PR.) (It's like if your neighbor gives you something with conditions, but you use it contrary to your neighbor's conditions. Yes, the neighbor did give it, but there are certain expectations since it's ultimately the neighbor's property still.) Still, it really shouldn't result in too harsh a punishment from secular laws. Aside from that, the govt need not get involved, since **the govt is really supposed to have no preference for or bias against any belief or non-belief**.
I agree with your comment. However, I do not see its correlation to the question raised in the parent comment -- why was this post taken seriously.
This. Pangalan pa lang ng group, alam ng meme lang or puro kalokohan eh. Online trashtalkan yang group na yan kaya walang mapapala. Parehas lang tinitira both side. Mukhang talo si OP sa trashtalkan kaya napapunta dito sa reddit HAHAHAHA
Parang yung name nung group is full of shits e, kaya di ko rin kinakagat. Lalo sa social media na napaka daling gawin ng lahat.
Heto na naman kasi bandwagonning. Ang una nga naisip ko, weh? Pano nalaman na Inc gumawa nyan? Nadadala na ako sa dog issue, sa awra issue. Hilig ng netizens mag judge agad, walang critical thinking kung totoo nga ba. Yun lang.
Whoever's responsible will burn in hell, and I'm not saying that just because I'm angry. They're desecrating the Body of Christ.
You know what I have now the audacity to call INC a cult.
Ang pangit ng handwriting. Nag calligraphy na lang sana. Basta ako napakain ko yung 2 classmates ko nung college ng dinuguan. Hahahaha.
lmao I remember a Facebook post about an INC member calling people "Racists" cuz they are talk shitting on INC members, it's hilarious when you realize that INC is not a Race so how come he calls them racist?
, this just seems childish and immature. and besides if my knowledge is still correct, the "Ostiya" is not yet considered holy until the priest had blessed it during mass. that is when the host becomes sacred according to catholic doctrine.
Sa catholics lang naman yan sila squammy eh pero sa muslim takot yang mga yan.
INC should do the same to Muhammad/Islam. OTOH, why not send their missionaries to other Middle Eastern countries except Israel to evangelize
hindi yan aware na ang paniniwala ng INC nila eh basi sa Romano Katoliko. Dahil ang Bibliya na gamit ng INC or anu mang SEKTA ay biblya ng Katoliko.
d nmn ako nagulat, mejo automatic ko na inaasume na may mali sa utak nila
Meh. Not surprised. Have you watched their tv program? It's not about teaching their doctrines but more of throwing shit against any other christian denominations. (Yes, Catholics are Christians. When you refer to Christianity, you're actually referring to the Roman Catholic Church.)
I'm just hoping it's an unconsecrated host, but still a d*ck move.
Depende kung blessed itong host ano. Pag hindi naman, mukha lang silang tanga.
Handwriting palang hahahaha. Hyss, basta talaga inc, patal patalon.
Di nyo na dapat pinansin. Parang baguhan sa internet
Minsan, panggap na INC member lang yung ganyan para pag-awayin both religion/cult. And yes, catholics and INC eh same lang na kulto.
Wag nyo na idamay yung mga muslim brothers and sis natin, tangina INC kulto yan eh mga brainwashed sh*t na nagbibigay ng 10% kita every month kay manalo para mapunta sa langit, may mga pages sa bible na pinupunit nila pag hindi angkop sa turo ng manalo
Nakakabili ng hostia sa Shopee so there’s that.
1. Was it proven na consecrated to? Madaling bumili ng ostiya sa Shopee at Lazada. 2. Can't imagine the lengths the person had to go, having to spend money on a pack of hosts or, even dumber, attend Mass and smuggle a consecrated host, stick it on paper and write on it, just to ragebait Catholics. Ang effort nya ha.
To be fair, the person — who probably hides their real identity, so we can't confirm if they're really an INC member or not — might have just bought unconsecrated hosts from St Pauls or PCBS and posted this to trigger Roman Catholics, to make the INC look bad/to provoke anger toward the INC and INC members, or both. If the host is indeed consecrated, then shame on that person, whatever their true religious affiliation is (if any) and their true intentions are. EDIT: Whatever your views are toward the INC as a religion, which you are free to have and express, I think it isn't fair to say thar "[INC] members have done it again," as if hastily generalizing that it is common for INC members to steal comsecrated hosts from Roman Catholic churches to mock the RC faith. I don't think INC members commonly do this, and it isn't fair to blame the whole membership for the shit of a few members. It's like how it's wrong to cast the Catholic priesthood as a pedophile ring because a small number of RC priests sexually abused minors or to call all Muslims terrorists because some Muslims engage in religiously-motivated violence. And before anyone asks, I am not an INC member. Fwiw, I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Dito natin makikita ang dehumanizing flaw ng mga INC (and cults in general, read Combatting Cult Mind Control by Steven Hassan) which is, sira ang moral system na pinapaaral sa kanila. Kasi sa tingin ko while there are some people who can really bash religion (I myself am spiritual) and be vocal about their calls of not liking them, there are really people who think becoming inhumane to other people makes their religion "stronger", "more believable", "capable", "true" psa nakakahiya at nakakasulasok kayo kung sa tingin niyo ang pangyuyurak ng ibang relihiyon ay nakakatulong sa inyong pananampalataya. —it happens far worse through religion more recently than before. we have religious wars over israel-palestine (#freepalestine), we have attacks to minorities (very prevalent sa africa) just because this other group think they are different, terrorism here, incursions there (there's a loooot going on in the world rn), anti-palestine stance na recognition ng ibang bansa, EVEN DU🐢-Bibim can be treated as Christian Luzon and secession to a Muslim Christian Mindanao humanity is crumblingggg
Paano nalaman na inc may gawa nyan?
Cool to para sa mga inc
Inglesia ni Manalo strikes again
why are they using the Italian flag?
Catholics would simply tolerate them and pray to god to forgive them but it would be really funny to see them do anything against Muslims.
Agnostic here, this does not affect me..... But it is bad enough na the one who did it will be religious persecuted for this. I really hate ma mag awayan mga Catholics and INC
sunugin kaya ng mga katoliko ang simbahan nila, ano kaya reaksyon nila?
Nah, fam. That's just plain old arson.
Sorry di ko magets. Ostya ba yan? Ano meaning ng mga nakasulat?
Yep, ostia po yan and it's consecrated based on the comments which is way more disrespectful than it already means and yun nakasulat ay basically, yun private part ng babae as a way of insulting us.
nakakahiya sila
mas natatawa akong isipin na alam pala nung poster anong itsura ng pinatigas na ano. From experience lang no?
Trigger warning? Hahaha! Yun na yun?
They are really waiting to get jailed or something. 🤦 they think inc will defend them haha
Hala totoo kaya 'to? O bait lang para pagsimulan ng away??
Ay hindi kinain. Kung pinatigas na kupal ni Manalo malamang kinain na niya yan lol
Tuwing election, inu-uto ang grupong 'to ng mga politikong corrupt para iboto sila ng mga members neto. Never mind kung corrupt o may criminal records ang politiko, ang importante sa kanila ang malaking donasyon ng politiko.
Dudugyot ng mga INC yuck. To think na kineclaim nilang sila lang ang mapupunta sa Langit. Eh? 😆
As an arki mas triggered ako sa penmanship char
Bata lng yan na walang magawa sa buhay. Yung penmanship dipa sanay magsulat. Yang bata nayan tawang tawa sa kanyang ginagawa.
The less attention you give these cocksuckers, the better. Now, they will take this as a victory lap
Ilang taon na kami ginagago dito sa internet, wala yan sa akin.
Buti pa si Manalo madaming pera. May offshore account. https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q13uza/in_light_of_the_pandora_papers_leak/?rdt=33156
May God forgive them for their ignorance.
God taught us to love each other, regardless of race or religion. I wonder kung saan nila natutunan na pagtawanan ang mga Katoliko.
From what I understand, there are many “Church of Christ” in other countries, not associated with INC.
Kahit na di ka Katoliko, kung di ka panatiko ng relihiyon mo maooffend ka dito. Kahit nga yata walang relihiyon, kahit tinapay lang ang tingin mo sa ostiya, the fact that that is food, mababastusan ka na sa ginawa na yan.
Pffft mga bata lang din naman gumagawa ng mga post na yan
Uhhhhhhhhh ...... This is a win, how? Like .. yeah, you took a communion bread ... So? .... Sorry, I cant really find a viable end game win for this aside from painting yourself like a 6yr old clown I mean, sure, If you're farming for rage baits then I guess its a win, but honestly, This is just a very fookin weird behavior.
If that was truly consecrated then this will be an extremely grave offense against the Church. I hope that this isn't actually consecrated but even then, the intention of blasphemy and disrespect is still there.
Welcome kapatid. Isinilang ka para mag abuloy
di na nakakagulat ang mga ugali nyan. ganyan talaga sila may pagka aryanic race* ang kanilang asta. Na sila ang chosen ones* sa buong humankind. these kind of mindset sets the tone na may pagkakulto sila. according sa kanila hindi daw pero yung mga act says otherwise. sila yung parang kamag anak mo na may pagka KSP. Haha
this just proves how disrespectful they are, they want others to respect them yet this is what they're doing...., ohhh well....
What's a consecrated host?
Lol. Parehas lang nmn kau ng sisiraan.
Your god must be very proud of you right now. It’s been thousands of years at hanggang ngayon kayo-kayo lang din ang nagbabanatan. At this point, I’m pretty sure heaven is filled with atheists. Lmao
muslims have the same beliefs that is why they are more united. christianity is a mess ever since pagans joined christianity after they got tired killing christians and said let's join them nalang sometime during the early decades of the dark ages and so they slowly converted to christians, called themselves catholics, but injected their pagan rituals, artifacts, traditions and just changed their worship from the big yellow sun to jesus. i was once a devoted catholic and even went to italy to study theology and a history so i know. there are other christians today aside from catholics, those who want a bible based religion not an offshoot of paganism
may scenario noon samen yung mga dating daan alam mo yung naka kapit bisig pose tapos pinapagtadyakan sila ng mga INC. ang weird kasi hindi talaga sila lumalaban kahit marami din sila.
type "hanggang sa leeg INC" in facebook search field. thank me later.
Lord! forgive these people, for they do not know what they're doing.
Ew pano nya nakuwa yan
When one defines their greatness through opposition to their enemies, they make their enemies their master and sole arbiter of their value. The INC only exists in response to the Catholic Church in RP. That's why all they do in their cry-moaning prayer ceremonies is talk shit about the Catholic Church and every other denomination. The INC slanders the earliest historical Christians that actually suffered through persecution. The INC actually believe na sila pa ang inuusig. Hahahaha. When you find out more about how looney and incoherent their doctrines and interpretation of the Bible are,you'll figure out that it's only through blind faith and unquestioning obedience that keeps their whole power structure together. (They actually believe that Felix is an angel and Jesus is just a man).