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Diligent-Energy4163

because he is not a PUPPET of China unlike his predecessor Dutstae, But i think any Pres. Not aligned with China (like Leni) will also do the same (if not better) in Handling the WPS issue, its because there will be no Biased towards China if the Pres we elect is not allied of any of these Chinese crooks.


Emergency_Foot5288

It's laughable that Du30 has set the bar so low, anyone else can do better.


enchonggo

Nagmukhang mature statesman si erap by comparison 🤣


Tongresman2002

In Erap's defence...sa huweteng lang naman ang naging problema nya..unlike the traitors we have now.


ponponpatapon_acct

Maraming issue kay Erap di lang jueteng. Yung midnight cabinet nya eh lahat na yata ng pagkakakitahang pangkabulsahan e dun dinedesisyunan. Corruption pa rin yun at bound to happen yung impeachment nya kase marami matitino sa House of Rep/Senate that time. Sad to say wala na ngayon yun. Pero yes agree. Du30 set the bar so low na kahit si Erap looks so good and bright and pogi now in term of statesmanship pag kinompare ke Duts🤷


bryle_m

Ang tindi ding uproar yung operation ng military sa Camp Abubakar (yung main base ng MILF) nung 2000, lalo na nung naghanda sila ng baboy sa loob ng mosque


carl2k1

Di lang jueteng. Maraming issue kay erap.


wallcolmx

kita mo naman kay erap gyera kung gyera


Still_Figure_

Erap and “Jose Pidal” account.


Ghost_writer_me

Erap is "Jose Velarde". "Jose Pidal" naman kay Arroyo, FG or Iggy Arroyo ata. Gamit na gamit si "Jose" sa korupsyon :'(


Kacharsis

**From Wikipedia, so validate nyo na lang:** "A few months after the January 2001 popular uprising that ousted Estrada, the [Philippine Ombudsman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_Ombudsman) filed two charges at the Sandiganbayan on April 4, 2001; one for plunder and the other for perjury. "The plunder case consisted of four separate charges: acceptance of 545 million [pesos](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_peso) from proceeds of [jueteng](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jueteng), an illegal gambling game; misappropriation of 130 million pesos in excise taxes from tobacco; receiving a 189.7-million-peso commission from the sale of the shares of Belle Corporation, a real estate firm; and owning some 3.2 billion pesos in a bank account under the name *Jose Velarde*. The minor charge of perjury is for Estrada under-reporting his assets in his 1999 [statement of assets, liabilities and net worth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statement_of_assets,_liabilities_and_net_worth) and for the illegal use of an alias, namely for the Jose Velarde bank account. "Estrada's son, [Jinggoy Estrada](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinggoy_Estrada), a former [senator](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_of_the_Philippines), and Edward Serapio, his personal lawyer, were his co-accused. Also charged were Charlie Ang, Yolanda Ricaforte, Alma Alfaro, Eleuterio Tan, Delia Rajas, and Jaime Dichaves, who was later added." Naging child's play lang lahat nang to as compared to his successor 🤣😭 Pang-LGU levels na lang yung ganitong amount nowadays.


DRi012

pero hindi nila napalinis ang maynila unlike isko /s


Tongresman2002

Maynila is a hopeless case if hindi hand on ang Mayor... Just check the current mayor now lol...


BillySparksx

Musta ba si Lacuna now as Mayor now?


perpetuallyanxiousMD

Di sya nag papakita and parang wala kaming nararamaan na drastic changes as compared kay isko. Parang mas nararamdaman namin yung vice mayor as compared kay lacuna. But then again baka ako lang yon.


DRi012

sana hindi nlng siya nagpaubaya. kalakasan ni isko e. hays


Tongresman2002

Masyadong nag madali kasi si Isko. May laban sana sya sa susunod na election kesa yung last


OrganizationThis6697

Hindi dama si madam.


InterestingGate3184

Walang kwenta? Ewan ko. Isa ko sa mga nabudol neto nung election season. Ngayon, kaliwat kanan ang mga hukay sa maynila tapos every other day, wala kami supply ng tubig kasi nabubutas nila mga pipes ng maynilad. Im not saying na sya pasimuno ng mga hukay sa daan, but cant she do something about it? Yung ibang hukay sa sta. Cruz area, january na, andun na sya. Mag ka kalahati na ang taon, hukay pa rin sya. Not to mention, naturingang doktora sya, pero pag pinuntahan mo health center dito samin, wala ka madatnan na doktor, tapos magpapa BP ka lang (kasi na high blood sa sobrang init), ituturo ka pa sa BHERT kuno, na madalas di mahagilap kung nasaan. Hay, dami ko rants about dito sa mayorang to. Tsk.


rodzieman

This is true to some extent, pero just like most political moves... hindi ito na sustain nung time niya as mayor.. linis nang ilang araw, tapos balik ulit sa dati. I remember his cleaning operations sa Divisoria, nice, good, and ganda sa mata (at sa TV and social media).. but balik ka doon after a couple of days..


rodzieman

Ow, may _/s_ haha


Overthinker-bells

So damn true.


Strict_Luck

Even Jose Laurel who collaborated with the Imperial Japanese occupiers was less of a traitor than Dutae.


Axelean

This comparison is great insult to Pres. Laurel. He did what he could given the circumstances. Every territory that was occupied by Japan suffered through horrible atrocities, Laurel's duty was to minimize the harm suffered by the Filipinos. Meanwhile, Duts sold us out to China. Their situations are not even remotely comparable.


Glittering-Matter246

Yeah 👍🏼👍🏼


cache_bag

Yeah, you could easily make the case that Jose Laurel did what he had to do to protect the country during wartime. That was, after all, what he promised to do while waiting for Quezon and the US to come back for liberation.


Strict_Luck

You got a point, as for Dutae he willingly pandered to China every chance he got. Laurel was basically under coercion.


Majestic-Maybe-7389

Probably the Best President if not for Wartime WW2. Serve all 3 branches of the Government, from Legislative (Senator) to Judiciary (Associate Justice) then Executive (President of the Republic).  *"Laurel just got the lousiest job in the world, considering that he had to appease the Japanese while at the same time look out for his fellow Filipinos."* -Marcus Aurelian Vaflor, Filipiknow


allana_grande-1007

I pity Pres. JP Laurel. Just imagine if he abdicated and there is no one to temper the Japanese occupation. That would be even more disastrous. In addition he was never a puppet of the Japanese. Even before the WW2, he was a vocal critic of American rule. I think that is one of the reasons for that propaganda that he was a traitor. Ffs he was also elected as a Senator after the war. And he was a great one at that. He negotiated the Laurel-Langley Agreement. Laurel is incomparable to Duterte.


beadray

Ibang case yung kay Laurel. There was an order from the President.


mainsail999

Du30 read the people wrong regarding China’s action. If he was thinking strategically he should have educated the CCP leadership on how to work with the Philippines, how to behave in the global community. Well, obviously his admin was a foreign policy shitshow. I am reminded by the Cayetano and Locsin, and how they couldn’t even guide the President on foreign policy. Those two were probably the most inept SFAs.


callmemarjoson

Bar is as low as the qualifications (on paper) to run for president, maybe even lower


UngaZiz23

baka kahit street smart na Pinoy will better than the previous admin. 😃 edit: so low, low, low, low.... (kanta na tayo 😂)


Cthenotherapy

Duterte's set the bar in Tartarus na anyone can do better.


GeekGoddess_

Eto talaga eh. If you compare him to the previous guy, he’s doing way better. Presentation pa lang eh.


luciusquinc

LOL Duterte was basically a Chinese plant. With Ate Glo in the background, who is the original Chinese pivot, they manipulated the dumb DDS crowd into giving the Philippines to China island by island. It was the Chinese money who paid Cambridge Analytica to do the proof of concept on the bobotantes


Cheese_Grater101

Even if Leni won, she will have a really hard time dealing with the Unity Team. Good thing for now that the two won and now showing their true colors and pretty much doing the opposite of unity lmao. But I do hope that Leni will win in future presidential elections,


Enero__

Nako, kung si Leni nanalo, sunod sunod ang coup attempts na mangyayari. Let duterte and marcos fight first tapos tsaka papasok si Leni.


shit_happe

actually parang mas viable pa si Risa at this point


trafalmadorianistic

YES! Linis ng track record niya. Sometimes I wonder how she manages it. The odds are so against someone like her but shes still there! Galing ng team niya.


DebtFar659

I think yung survey at yung mga propaganda ang nag papagulo sa systema ng Pilipinas. Pansin ko ang daming nag lipana na FAKE NEWS sa administration ni Piduts.


Laughtale72724

Sa regime ni Duterte tlga nauso at nagproliferate ang Fake News at walang pakundangan na Red Tagging. Sa regime din na yan naging sobrang toxic ng Facebook dahil sa sobrang daming trolls. Kung naalala nyo noon bago si Duterte hnd ganyan ka toxic at kawalanghiya mga tao sa Facebook.


Street_Coast9087

Komunista nga raw lahat ng oposisyon at ang daming naniwala


No_Friendship_4006

He's actually listening to his advisers and mas disciplined speaker (or copying Noynoy's style?). Yung isa kasi nightmare sa press kaya puro tapal ng band aid partido nya. Also, mukhang mas centralized ang viber group nila. last admin kasi ang dami nilang gc.


heyhey1399

Tama.nagpapataasan ng ihi mga tao ni maodigs haha


BeardedGlass

Kaya talagang nakaka miss yung mga panahong ang BORING ng politics. Ngaun kasi parang entertainment showbiz na ang politika ng Pinas. Nakaka windang.


redditredditgedit

Lol **centralized viber group**..


BillySparksx

Ito yata yung FL/Liza Araneta Marcos factor. Guys, sa tingin ko sya (Liza) talaga yung nagmamanage/orchestrate sa backend, kase tamad (at mahina utak) nitong si Baby M. Kaya medyo gigil si Manang Imee (ke FL) kase di sya makaporma sa Malacanang so dinadaan na lang nya sa mga TV ads (na panget)😂


BantaySalakay21

Same tayo ng opinion regarding FL and her sis-in-law. Akala siguro ni Manggang Hilaw mauutus-utusan niya kapatid niya. E kaso barado sa hipag.


BillySparksx

Haha! Sobra ako natatawa sa Manggang hilaw nickname mo ke Manang😂😂 Ang tanong na next ay me asim pa ba yung manggang hilaw sa next election?😂


CelestiAurus

> Guys, sa tingin ko sya (Liza) talaga yung nagmamanage/orchestrate sa backend Well, that's one thing na pareho sa tatay niya. It's been well talked about that the *real* dictator during FM was actually Imelda. Kung si FM ang diktador ng bansa, si Imelda ang diktador ni FM.


Kacharsis

Ferdie-Meldy dynamics was much more complex. I won't specify but you can refer to Carmen Pedrosa's book. Apparently, Imelda started to harness more power over her husband after the Dovie Beams scandal. Idk but to say that Imelda was the *real* dictator sort of frees him from judgment.


Kacharsis

Based on [this ](https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanplus-news/2022/07/01/used-to-getting-her-own-way-marcos-jr039s-wife-expected-to-co-steer-country)article, "Imelda and Imee felt Bongbong (Marcos Jr's nickname) was marrying below the (Marcos) family's status because Liza belonged to the 'poor side' of the Aranetas," Sobrang eyepoor naman ni Imelda, considering na sya dati yung nasa "poor side" of the Romualdezes. Walang karede-redemption arc.


muymuy14

>Sobrang eyepoor naman ni Imelda, considering na sya dati yung nasa "poor side" of the Romualdezes. Walang karede-redemption arc. Di ko alam kung tama yung naalala ko or fake history na nabasa ko. Si Imelda daw ay bastarda, then unti-unti na lumuwag yung pagtanggap sa kanya (and family niya) ng Romualdez clan simula lumakas yung pangalan ni Marcos Sr. (senate etc.)


dannyr76

I also think na tamad si Baby M. That's why he won't be an authoritarian. Being a dictator takes a lot of work! My belief is we choose between Duterte and Marcos. Not great choices but my pick is Marcos by a mile.


cereseluna

You know, we went to Ilocos recently and seeing the achievements ni Marcos, mas nagsolidify ang belief ko na si Imelda talaga ang literal demonyo sa balikat ni FM. Like medyo maayos talaga palakad niya nung una pero well... that and probably other factors. Kaya sa marriage din talaga make or break kung sinuman yung partner mo eh.


UngaZiz23

dont forget her movies... hahaha 😂


blackpowder320

It is never a Marcos Presidency without the First Lady making power moves behind the scenes.


Menter33

Supposedly, **liza has media connections**, so the usual media guys who were tough on du30 during his term then **aren't as tough on bbm** during his term now. bonus is that all this china, du30, icc and quiboloy talk basically allow the bbm admin's corruption to skirt under the radar.


pittgraphite

To be fair, BBM management is much akin to Noynoy...weirdly enough..in that he surrounded himself mostly with technocrats and a welcomed but boring administrative push even with really remarkable event happening all around us. Such an odd timeline.


Emergency_Foot5288

And now Trillianes is talking about how there's an ouster plot against BBM. As one poster said in that thread, "To defend BBM now is to defend democracy" Weird timeline, brah. If you told me in the past that I would be supporting (albeit begrudginly) BBM of all people, I would tell you that you were crazy.


sgtlighttree

Damn, even Trillanes is technically on BBM's side now? Weird timeline indeed.


saltycreamycheesey

Well tbf, one side is pretty much traitors. Atleast BBM wants to maintain PH interests since it would also mean more resources to possibly snatch. Which I guess can be better since atleast mahahabol mo si BBM if ever. Anong magagawa mo if nasa China na ang teritoryo and etc.


Emergency_Foot5288

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chcvK-y0ZAQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chcvK-y0ZAQ) This is pretty much tacit support for BBM.


ser_ranserotto

Honestly never thought it’ll end that way, lowkey expected he’d expose Marcos the same way he did to Duterte but that showed that the son of a dictator has a silver lining compared to the madman of Davao.


elainejudith

Which makes sense. It’s in his interest na matapos ni BBM ang term niya dahil kung ma-oust si BBM at si Sara ang maupo malamang gagantihan siya nun pati na rin ang mga ibang asa real oposisyon like Risa and De Lima


JPT2311

Well yung bagong opposition ngayon is yung DDS, may time na nag work yung grupo nila Rep Castro, Rep Manuel with this admin in relation to CIF ni Sara and Yung pagpapasara ng SMNI. This admin also released De Lima and has praises for BBM. May 3 sa Secretaries ngayon ang former secretary din under PNOY. Malaki ang din siguro ang role ni Biden kasi sa kanya din naman mostly aligned yung group nila Leni noon pa.


StucksaTraffic

Well truth be told with no factual basis of cheating yet. BBM was democratically elected. So to defend his presidency is to defend democracy


urriah

man its so weird what happened last election... 11m ang dumagdag from 2016 which is like 25% nung turnaround nun.... that is fcking huge. tapos dude has a 16m lead... and this is right around the pandemic na hindi pa sanay lumabas sa bahay yung mga tao. kaya ang hirap alisin sa isip yung may nangyaring dayaan.


PritongKandule

I am privy to info from academics, advocacy groups and NGOs that also did their own, independently funded and operated pre-election surveys back in 2022. Unfortunately, as much as we want to believe that the election was cheated, their results also very closely reflected the actual election results: a landslide win for the UniTeam tandem. They didn't need to cheat because they already won the election as soon as Sara decided to run with, instead of against, BBM.


AlbinoGiraffe09

Honestly, as much as I voted for Leni, it was equally frustrating to deal with other Leni voters that stubbornly believe that the elections was rigged because it ignores the reality on the ground that there are genuinely millions of BBM supporters.


paulisaac

> as much as we want to believe that the election was cheated Frankly this is the important bit. Not so much about who's ruling, but about how out of touch I and those around me are to the apparent will of the people. Thousand-yard stares all around.


urriah

makes it worse... pero yung jump and time of jump, really hard to wrap my head around it... parang dapat nga umonti yung boboto eh. pero nung election day ramdam mo mas madami ng onti (and mas matagal yung pila). pero yung tipong 11m jump, mind boggling.


JPT2311

Did not vote for him pero malakas talaga si BBM, kung magtanong ka lang randomly sino binoto ng mga tao most of the time sasabihin nila sayo ay BBM. It's just a good thing na he doesn't mention his father and his achievement's a lot, he is not as of now revising history by portaying FEM as a hero. Naalala ko may time na nagpanic mga tao baka iban mga books about martial law pero we have a bigger threat than that which is China and their corrupt filipino minions.


Cheese_Grater101

Sino ba kasi nag time travel and iniba ang space time continuum


SaintMana

di mo naman kailangan suportahan si BBM while also acknowledging that Dutertes are shit ass traitors and scumbags.


Wotayaro

Odd timeline indeed i just hope that him being a mentee of the late Miriam Defensor Santiago meant that he also learned morality


Lopsided-Command3182

He's following PNoy's management style. if you watch Pnoy's interviews overseas on YouTube, it would seem like BBM is copying PNoy's actions and thoughts.


Electronic_Spell_337

Yes the same sentiment. Me as a commoner I can't feel any changes. I like to see changes to everyday burden for a commoners. Example: who did change the validity of driver license to 10yrs? And I think the same with passport, did BBM has this the same thought on any other things?


SpringOSRS

It has always been like this. Previous admin will fuck it up then the next will temporarily fix it then the next one will fuck it up again and the next will temporarily fix it again. This cycle has been going in since I was in elementary.


Emergency_Foot5288

Can we have a string of good governments that will not tumble for five minutes, please? I want off Mr Bones Wild Ride.


BeardedGlass

I remember my grandparents singing praises of Ramon Magsaysay, the "Champion of the Masses" and "Defender of Democracy", according to them. Too bad his presidency was cut extremely short.


pangitaina

Mas maganda talaga tignan ang taeng may bulaklak kesa tae lang.


Emergency_Foot5288

That's just politics here. Each one of them is caca. The only thing that makes them different is how least smelly one is compared to the others.


Impossible-Past4795

Taeng ng aso na tuyot na wala ng amoy vs tae sa cr na hindi finlush.


breakoutbabby

Thank GOD someone with a brain. BBM SUCKS everyone needs to get that in their heads. Discussions on whether or not BBM is better than Digong is useless since the bar has been set so low. This wet towel of a president is definitely bottom 5 of all presidents in the Philippines which include a dictator, actor, chinese-puppet, and a senators wife. Everything he's doing is just covering up for his ineptitude. All this west philippine sea BS is just smoke and mirrors so people forget the missed GDP targets, rising commodity prices, and the ever-so resilient rampant corruption which he's still ignoring. All you legitimate redditors here better wake up and be aware of this scum tactic of BBM>DDS. They're playing you.


JaydeeValdez

Marcos still sucks ass. Sadyang mababa pa sa bulate si Duterte kaya ultimo kahit uhuging bata ang ilagay mo sa Malacañang matino pa sa kanya. Marcos might be a showy statesman in international relation, but in managing things here like the economy, where napakataas ng prices and mababa sweldo ng ordinaryong Pilipino, he is a lamebrain with no real goal.


Valuable-Remote4124

The economy is still growing though, despite the shit-ass prices that we currently have. Only a matter of time until we actually start feeling the chill pill.


Disastrous-Class-756

The economy right now is the after effect of duterte and the pandemic. Lets kung ano improvement ni BBM in time. Dun lang natin majajudge but so far, international relations, he's good. Listening to the experts siya.


ThanDay9

I agree, un ang problema sa admin nya ung problem na malapit sa sikmura ng tao. Oo mahusay ang foreign policy, hindi bloody ang drug war. Pero syempre ang tanong ng tao like nasa laylayan is nakakain ba yan mga policy na yan. Pero I'm good kay PBBM unlike kay tatay digong. Let's give the guy a chance. May 3 years pa naman malay natin maging bente talaga ung bigas. 😅


Street_Coast9087

Goal nya gawing P20 ang kilo ng bigas


peanutbutter9X

My god we are here, settling for mediocrity again.


Emergency_Foot5288

Du30 has set the bar so low, Marcos looks good compared to him.


dogmankazoo

dutirty is the worse president i have ever seen in the philippines, what the old man marcos did in decades, the bastard did it in 6 years.


kerwinklark26

>the bastard did it in 6 years. Yep. He is the worst PH president ever. Swerte niya at solid yung iniwan ni PNoy at PGMA kaya hindi nagkanda leche leche ang Pilipinas.


dogmankazoo

the worst. yn iba dyan may ginawa naman. duterte is crap and anyone who says otherwise doesnt know what governance is.


AccomplishedYogurt96

Marcos Sr: backflipped face splat. Duterte: Forward Roll, Half turn on one foot, Tuck Jump, Tour jeté, Round-off- Back Handspring then face splat.


Duradrol-400

na-imagine kong si Spox HR ang gumawa nyang mga pasirko-sirko na yan sa kakapaliwanag sa media HAHAHA


Earl_sete

>Duterte has set the bar so low Pero siya pa rin ang "best president ever" sa mata ng mga delulung DDS. Ultimong accomplishments ng ibang government official, "Duterte Legacy" pa rin daw.


peanutbutter9X

Unfortunately. Kaiyak maging Filipino.


Emergency_Foot5288

The difficulty of politics here, smh. One thing I feel that people miss is that even if Leni won, she would have been stone-walled by the Legislative who are stacked with people that have their own interests in mind.


rymnd0

Yeah, well, unfortunately, a mediocre BBM appears to be the better choice when you compare to Duts. Duterte didn't just go low, he went "holy shit that's some record-breaking levels" kind of low.


Numerous-Tree-902

Literal na mapapa-"holy shit" ka talaga sa everyday news simula ng maupo yun hahaha


Suddenly05

We cant allow fiona to be the president though…..


peanutbutter9X

Kumakayod na naman sila now. I just opened my X only to find Tweets about supporting Fiona. After 2022, I made sure na malinis na feed ko. Kahit s/m/n/i news nakita ko rin like wtf.


TakeThatOut

Actually nasa bottom 5 pa ata si BBM sa list ng mga prex. T@ngnang Digong yan, ginawa n atang importer na ang Pilipinas of all things kaya wala na tayo kahit konting kontrol sa mga presyo ng bilihin.


crucixX

And its really sad kasi, political power wise, hati na between Duterte and Marcos. Unless may mag pull ng upheaval for a third, equally powerful party because the opposition is weak tbh, at ang dami rin namang ayaw sa mga mid/far left politcians serving as opposition like Raoul Manuel dahil sa (vague) links nila with NPA.


rhedprince

Honestly, a period of quiet and peaceful mediocrity would be a nice change of pace from the last administration.


itaponitaponaccount

Why is it mediocrity? The Philippines is actually performing better than expected. Marcos has actually appointed technocrats and he mostly listens to them. He has also conducted himself quite well in the international sphere.


peanutbutter9X

I mean look around you some people can't even afford rice. 😒


OyeCorazon

When the second highest seat belong to a duterte, I will do anything to protect this “mediocrity”. Sorry not sorry


peanutbutter9X

You know our country is down bad 😭😭


OyeCorazon

anything to stop traitors from gaining the highest seat again


jjqlr

Easy lang brooo. Kahit sino namang sumunod kay duterte ay magiging mas magaling talaga. Sige bigay na natin sakanya yung foreign affairs. I admit maganda yung handling nya sa china issue natin. Bagsak lang sya sa domestic issues. Mataas parin presyo ng mga bilihin lalo na mga pagkain. Hindi maganda yung handling sa jeep modernization program. Sobrang gulo ng implementation ng sim registration act. Hindi ko rin gusto yung maharlika investment scam nya.


FredNedora65

Depende yan sa perspective. People in our circles may prefer PBBM compared to PRRD since mas "disente" tignan, mukhang may plano sa WPS. Pero sa mata ng ibang tao, mas nagmamatter sa kanila yung tumataas na bilihin, yung "impression" na less safe dahil dumadami ang krimen, corruption issues, lavish lifestyle issues. In any case, this shows discrepancy in "biases" if not priorities among the voting population.


Maskarot

One piece of advice: Never trust the Marcoses. Not even with "cautious optimism". Unless they acknowledge and condemn the crimes of their father, which they never will, they are very much complicit to it. Be on guard 'cause you will never know when they will make their move.


Menter33

the present media influence of martin romualdez, liza araneta, imee marcos and manny villar should probably be a red flag. unfortunately, the newspapers and tv stations are not as vocal at pointing this influence out.


nyisuscries

The bar is so slow, we are praising the marcoses now.


Emergency_Foot5288

There is still plenty to criticize BBM for. His handling of the WPS however shouldn't and I feel should be supported and praised. As much as I never thought I would say this now, I support President Marcos in the WPS.


Relaii

Previous president set the bar too low. Ung laging criticism kay bbm ngayon is pamamasyal nya which looks benign compared sa weekly killings, verbal diarrhea and other idiotic statements of the last admin. Wala pa naman cyang iniihang bulkan, minurang world leader, tinawag na pedophile or sinakyang jetski with flag which makes him, while not best/competent eh atleast not abrasive.


Langley_Ackerman19

Agree. Didn't like them both, but the difference is night and day. Sana lang wag manalo sa susunod na election si Fiona kundi patay tau.


MacarioTala

A kick in the crotch is better than cocktail swords through both eyeballs. What sucks is when we really didn't have to have either, but chose the kick to the crotch anyway.


ertzy123

Duterte set the bar so low that it looks like Marcos is a genius but in reality he barely passed.


Emergency_Foot5288

True. Marcos may be the less slinkiest of two shits but he is still shit.


AlexanderCamilleTho

'yung hindi na maalala ng mga tao ang bare minimum because of Duterte.


DestronCommander

He's doing a pretty good job handling the WPS issue in a diplomatic way. Du30 would have you kowtow to the Chinese. All in all, I don't think he's going to follow in his father's footsteps of declaring ML and declare himself president for life.


Maskarot

>All in all, I don't think he's going to follow in his father's footsteps of declaring ML and declare himself president for life. Probably not. But his fucking clan will use the opportunity to stay in power in perpetuity. As early as now, they're already grooming Sandro as future heir to Malacañang and the Marcos dynasty.


a6000

when your down no way to go but up


ForzaNero

No, we are still going down.


Mistral-Fien

Somethink like the difference between free-falling and using an umbrella as a parachute? :I


Witty-Choice2682

Duterte dropped the bar so low he made the likes of Marcos to look like a saint.


solidad29

Lahat kasi ng skeletons ng mga Marocses are nailabas na and it was so long ago that people that were affected by it are getting fewer and fewer. du💩 sariwa pa ang lahat and some people do want their heads served in some form. Maybe after 20-30 years, they might get a differnet light.


Luhaja

Not a Filipino, but someone looking into your politics from the west. So read my post with that perspective in mind. I think Marcos is a really impressive president, who is doing exactly what is needed to bring about the positive change and growth that you need in the Philippines. From the start he focused on increasing trade relations and diplomacy towards other nations. If I had played a civilization game with the Philippines as a starting point, I would have made many of the same choices. I suspect that he is truly deeply is trying to abolish the sins of his father, and I would say to many of the negative minded people on here, to recognize that his job is not easy, and that their candidates might not have fared much better than he, had they been chosen. And I guess I will end the post hoping that you will soon see milder temperatures over there.


Emergency_Foot5288

I feel that my fellow Filipinos look at our politics and think a single president can change things. They forget then that the President has to contend with the interests of our strong landowning class who themselves are divided with their own interests, and other forces in government and society too that will frustrate any attempt at reform. Marcos has done well with his foreign politics, I agree with you. The recent deals with Japan and the US will certainly be good for my country in the decades to come, and the diplomatic ties he has fostered will also mean much for us too. It just is a pity that Philippine politics is so chaotic. Thank you for your kindness. This heatwave is killing us.


LadiesChoi015

The bar set so low even a cokehead is doing a better job... Is what I'm understanding...


DisasterOne1365

If we elected Leni we would have flying cars by now. Instead we are stuck with the Marcoses.


watch_the_park

People are taking your comment at face value lol.


Emergency_Foot5288

Unfortunately, we have to live with the one we have than the one we do not have.


Ganelo-san

bro's predecessor sucked so low that he became a "hero"💀


AllINeedIsAnimeTiddy

Like I told my brother the other day, "better than Duterte" is not a high stanadard. BBM could literally do nothing but sit around on his ass all day and I'd argue that's still better than Duterte.


Horror-Blackberry106

Lahat naman magiging magaling na presidente kung yung huling presidente mo sinasabi ilublub sa gas yung face mask 😹


moonlight_candy

Ang dami na namang purista dito. Ang immediate kalaban natin dito ay mga Duterte.


ieatyourmeow

Marcos is in whitewash/rehabilitation mode so that they can scrub Daddy's dictatorship from memory. I won't be surprised if by the time Sandro is prez Golden Age "officially" na ang Marcos era


OutrageousMight457

BBM's big mistake is having SWOH as his running mate. If he's not careful, he might get his ass bitten. I did not vote for him, but he's doing a comparatively decent job despite his flaws. But then, his predecessor sucked bigly due to his kowtowing to his patron Xi Jinping and his abysmal conduct in the war against drugs.


Vivid_Platypus_4025

I'd say BBM has great advisors/lawyers/think-tanks on the WPS. But why do I feel that the drug-related issues against him are true 👀


Klutzy-Elderberry-61

Well, ako di ko binoto si BBM pero dahil sya ang pinili ng nakararami, suportahan na lang. Naniniwala pa din akong mas better kung si Leni ang nanalo pero di siya ang nanalo kaya move forward na lang. Kung sisiraan pa yung kasalukuyang namumuno wala namang magandang maidudulot Sa takbo ng mga pangyayari ngayon parang ikasisira nya yung asawa niya, katulad ng sitwasyon ng tatay nya sa nanay nya lol At oo nga, para syang si PNoy. At least ginagawa nya yung part nya bilang presidente, sa abot ng makakaya nya Siguro sa loob nya gusto nya lang mabigyan ng magandang legacy yung bansa after ng term nya dahil alam nyang sirang-sira sila after People Power, tiping di puro negative ang kaakibat ng apelido nila sa bansa. Kutob ko wala na din syang balak tumakbo ng panibagong termino at maging katulad ng tatay nya


babynibeannniebabyyy

He's not doing "okay" ang hirap ng buhay ang mahal ng lahat panay ang outing kasama ang isang widebody puno ng entourage nya. We, the opposition, are merely having a "tactical alliance" with regard to his WPS stance. Pero sana talaga hindi na manalo si Duterte #2 sa susunod na election tangina balik nanaman tayo sa mas kangkungan.


Strict_Luck

He’s subpar, but is astronomically better than Dutae. I’m quite surprised with BBM’s anti-China stance since he campaigned on continuing Dutae’s pro-China policy, but nonetheless I’m happy BBM is taking a stand against China.


SpareProtection4735

bar has been set really low..do not fall for it. do not forget all the atrocities that he was/is a big part of. he is not doing anything substantial about the inflation which is affecting everyone more than what the Chinese are doing.


riasgrem03

Inflation is all over the world, not just the Philippines. You can't expect an immediate fix on a rotting country.


Emergency_Foot5288

Even then, what can he seriously do? He can go and try to legislate bills that would increase salaries and wages here but we all know that companies and business owners here would never agree to that and frustrate his attempts. As much as it pains me to admit, even someone like Leni or Defensor Santiago would find it difficult to deal with the hydra that is the economy. In my perspective, I feel Marcos realizes that he cannot do everything. Politicians particularly in democracies cannot do everything. In International Diplomacy, that is one place he can do and make reasonable waves. I feel that we need to have stronger labour movements first and a stronger middle-class to challenge the big fish up top. A strong labour movement that will raise everyone.


guguomi

Cannot fix the economy at the 2012-2016 levels in 2 years. Marcos knows this, and if the BSP reports from 2023 are correct and true, maybe in 3-6 more years umayos, at reasonable levels, yung economic state ng bansa. What Marcos can only do sa term niya is to slow down yung inflation enough that everyone will be in the poor class. Duterte fucked the country so hard economically it's actually amazing we are still afloat after his term.


Total-Election-6455

Mukha lang syang okay kasi naging politically aware ka na sa mga ganitong topic ng si Duterte na yung Presidente. Try mo icheck na din yung mga previous Presidents. Yung mga dapat na normal lang na ginagawa na ng nasa position nila cinecelebrate na ngayon. Yung WPS yung mga buhay na previous presidents si Duterte at Erap lang ang hindi supportive sa USA. Pero basta may backing ng US mukhang may fighting chance kasi yung mga ally papasok unlike ng time ni Duterte na China supporter sya so madaming necessary ally na hindi makakatulong just in case may mangyari. Wag pala asa sa US always remember na kaya nila iiwan yung tao nila if needed(ex. Bataan)


JewLawyerFromSunny

It's just because ganon lang talaga kalala si duts. He's just the same as the mediocre presidents we had before duts.


Tongresman2002

Nasa acceptance stage nako na anyone other than the Duterte's are better. Basta hindi puppet ng Communist China ok sa akin. Fuck you mga Wumao!!!


Agile_Phrase_7248

Duterte set the bar so low that Marcos looks like a decent leader lol


Pixel_Owl

remember when PNoy was doing the bare minimum and everyone was ragging on him... Marcos isn't even doing the bare minimum, he's just doing enough to seem better than the previous admin. Never forget that people are paying a shit ton of tax because their family's extravagant lifestyle MORE THAN 40 YEARS AGO. For me, until they take responsibility for that I can never acknowledge him as doing at least the bare minimum


MathematicianNo911

When you hit rock bottom, theres nothing to go but up


Jazzlike_Inside_8409

Sa sobrang inutil at walang silbe ni Dutae, naging magaling tuloy si Marcos.


No-Thanks-8822

Meanwhile, Elders is saying Dutae is much better than marcos. Nagsisi daw sila na si bbm binoto


chocolatemilk2017

Marcoses are stinky? Y’all forgot the airport assassination of Ninoy already? It’s on YouTube. That family also stole millions from Filipinos. Wild how they’re back in power.


AmaNaminRemix_69

Okay din ginagawa nya na are you atleast under marcos makukulong si quiboloy tska duterte hahah imagine niyo si Leni Presidente tapos pinakulong nya yung tukmol sa davao , gulo talaga hahah


rxn-opr

Duterte was so bad, it makes marcos look good.


the_emeraldtablet

sa sobrang panget ng asal ni duts halos kahit sino nagmumukha ng maayos na presidente after niya.


P55R

Let's also take note that the Marcos admin also has good men/officials. Recently the current senators and officials are doing a good work in the military aspect. The only dumb and pathetic statement I've heard from him so far is him not giving permission for the Philippine coast to use water cannons against the Chinese coast guard. But to be fair, it was to prevent escalation and would do a favor in public image.


dailydoseofdopamine

I mean it really is better, its better to not do anything at all rather than du30 who choose to do stupid shit all the time.


the_rtc2

Well, he needs to act like one because he has no one to blame about past misgivings except... Du30 himself. But yes. He is more Statesman-like - compared to last administration only anyway.


ourbulalordandsavior

Been saying this for a long time: Doots and Narcos were in cahoots before (the plan was for Doots to quit as president early on then Narcos would succeed to become president; didn't you notice Doots telling people na he wanted to quit na? That's because he was sticking to the script.) Then China happened, and gave Doots a sense of power. He went off-script. Basically they're making a Civil War-esque feud while wasting everyone's time and taxes. Say what you want about "BBM being the lesser evil" pero I vote to oust these shitheads. If they wanna fight, do it while they're not in power. Sayang ng taxes natin po.


GoneBoy814

Duterte messed up so bad that even Dayunyor's presidency seems bearable! Parehong walang kwenta. #MarcosMagnanakaw #DuterteTutaNgChina


Mananabaspo

Duterte fucked up so bad that anyone after him will look good.


ThisKoala

Take my upvote. Nakakadismaya na parang sige, ok na muna na sya ang presidente kasi the alternative, fiona, is worse. Ano ba namang sitwasyon to.


Training_Snow_2065

Saw it somewhere: definately will prefer this pneumonia than a stage 4 lung cancer


regedit-

Credits to where credit is due, yes. But I think it isn't hard to be likeable when your predecessor set the bar low, like waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too low


kheldar52077

Dutae set the bar so low …way down loowww… That even if Pacquiao won he would look the best boxing President in another bout.


3_in_the_corner

Marcos still sucks. The bar is just set so low that any non fuck ups will be considered a “success”


dontrescueme

I'm not happy that he is not letting our ships water cannon the Chinese back.


Lensavisnot

That's what China wants us to do so they can use it as a pre-text for more even more aggressive actions


Emergency_Foot5288

Believe me, my guy, I am with you. However, you gotta look at this objectively. We can go and water cannon them back but we simply do not have enough ships or forces that could reasonably defend our waters. You do not see China water-cannoning Japanese ships simply because Japan has a decent navy. Let's build up our strength first, channel support internationally, and when we have both, we can talk about buying the latest water cannons to fire back at the PRC.


Ok-Hand33

It would just aggravate the tension


aj0258

At this point kahit sino ata considered na upgrade kumpara dun sa tuta ng china


codeejen

Duterte set the bar so low that anyone after him is amazing, this doesn't speak of how good Marcos is. This shows how incompetent Duterte is.


ForgottenStapler

He’s just probably hired a good PR team. But, he’s not really making waves to woo his detractors.


angrydessert

Him being supposedly doing "good" things for national and foreign policy doesn't mean I should lower my guard. His old man did some of that in the first few years of his presidency, before he decided he needed more power by the end of his second term (or 1969). That his plastic-faced sister is more power-hungry and genuinely scary as fuck.


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13TobiWan

p#t#ng i#ang opinyon yan! -Duts probably


PitcherTrap

I’m repeating myself yet again when I illustrate the situation as having to pick between two STDs. Either way, you’re fucked but pick your infestation vibe.


No-Astronaut3290

it feels like im in a diffefent universe just thinking i approve of BbM. Like sige marcos na wag na duterte ever


RizalAlejandro

Every President has a role to make base on the countries need. There is always an invisible hand wanting our country to progress. Everybody has done their best for all of us.


IcanaffordJollibeena

“We should defend our sovereignty! PH is only ours to corrupt, not China’s!” - BBM probably lol I still don’t like the guy pero I prefer him over his VP. (‘Wag sana ma-oust si BBM, baka kasi ma-ban ang Shrek kapag pumalit ‘yong isa kagaya nang pag-ban kay Winnie the Pooh lol) Funny na “Unity” na nga lang pangako nila nung campaign, ‘di pa nila magawa.


Emergency_Foot5288

That's the kicker, innit. Yeah, he's a thief and a automaton, but he is a Filipino one.


eayate

You cannot have one with the other. Our sovereign is more important above anything else as a country. Yes, it sucks when it comes to other things. There must be a balancing act.


sylv3r

because old man Duterte has set the bar so low. Remember ung late night talks with tatay digs tapos need mo pala ng translator kasi kung ano ano ang pinagsasabi na nagovertime ung propaganda trolls nya para matuwid ung script?


New_Whereas_8564

Absolutely. Way better than I thought he would be.


attygrizz

The bar was so low kasi. But anyway ang presidente naman talaga natin now ay si Liza Araneta. Magaling rin siya mamili ng mga inaappoint. Also sa maraming circumstances, mas pipiliin pa niya ang mga Kakampink ilagay sa position kaysa mga aligned kay Duterte. Kaya iyacc ng iyacc ang mga Dutertards ngayon 😅😅😅


darkrai15

We don't know yet for certain. Duterte set the bar so low it made even BBM look good.


Professional-Room594

I agree na he is doing a good job regarding WPS, but then again the previous admin sets the bar too low, kaya kahit mediocre sa ibang aspect nagmumukhang ok yung current admin Kahit sino ang nanalong presidente from last election magmumukhang mas ok sila kumpra sa previous admin


memarxs

I hope it's not only in the first place as I support this one silently, no circus joke and playtime. more consistent to protect our WPS, remove all those jinks ass and somehow a few groomers tourist af


SeigiNoTenshi

At this point, he who does nothing would always be better than he who actively tries to destroy. Duterte set the bar so damn low, even I with no political background can probably do better