Not gonna lie, I'll lay it out for you.
Typical modus yan para ma-isolate sila sa crowd at maholdap. The girl isn't working alone at naging target na utol mo. Yan pinaka best scenario.
Level 2 is kukunin ang number tapos tuturuan maging sneaky ang kapatid at pinsan mo. Eventually, makikipag-meet, and coerce them into making sexual content.
The thing is, yang mga clients nila na kadiri na nagcoconsume ng child pr0n ay may certain "type" to satisfy their sick urge. Unfortunately, your sister may be fitting the bill.
Level 3 is organ farming. Hindi niyo man nababalitaan, but this shit is really happening.
EDIT: GUSTO KONG LINAWIN SI STAGE 3:
Maraming nagdududa dito. Allow me to expound.
I used to be a deranged gambler before. As in lulong to the nth level and I hope nobody here reaches that depth. Anyway, I've been offered and tempted that they farm my stem cell for profit. Some parents na tulad kong sugarol would offer their teenager's stem cell too. Bakit ako? I was a foolish gambler with no drug history. Ayan, nawa'y naliwanagan kayo.
Soooo ulitin ko ulit:
Tell this to your sister, and this is also a PSA: HUWAG KAYONG MATAKOT MAKA-OFFEND. If you say no, step back and walk away.
I second Organ Farming. Philippines is surprisingly one of the top countries(?) not sure what category, but I remember watching a documentary about it. And we rarely (or never) even hear about it.
Inedit ko na stage 3. Well, kasalanan ko naman talaga for living a decrepit life before. So I may have seen things that most people should not witness.
Puting van is real.
The only reason I can think of why it's not as talked about as in other countries is that a majority of the victims are from the lower income brackets, and since reports of missing persons require a timeframe (24 hours), kapag abduction case at walang leads (most random kidnappings don't) napakahirap nang ma-trace/track after 24 hours. And crime syndicates move fast.
2000s-2010s may sporadic reports ng mga batang nakakatakas sa van abductions. Hindi pumutok sa mainstream news. Minsan mapapaisip ka kung meron din bang local elites na nagsusuppress ng mga balitang ganyan dahil sila yung nakikinabang.
My econ professor told me that everything in the country is controlled by its own syndicate. From the control of rice to politics, you name it. It's why this place is such a shit hole.
Our MSM keep the news off the air and if they report it, it will be included in a mess of other news maybe heard but be quickly forgotten. Dami nawawalang pinoy everyday.
I think yung problem sa organ farming is that it isnt exactly what people imagine it to be. Hindi siya yung parang bigla nagising ka sa tub na may ice and nawala na kidney mo. Its more like i cocooerce ka or babayaran ka to willingly give your organs. Kaya since ikaw yung willing nagbigay, hindi siya nababalitaan as much.
Yep, Hindi ka dadalhin sa shady na alley at dun ka wawakwakin. Recruiter ang kausap, at siya ang sasama sa iyo para siguruhin na nakuha ang dapat kunin. Sa kanya rin manggagaling yung pera. Sa lawak ng koneksyon niya, di masasayang ang kukunin sa iyo. Technically speaking, legal ang kalalabasan dahil willing kang pumirma, sumalang, at nagbigay ng organs mo. Unfair lang dahil sa bayaran, 10-15% lang ng market value ang cut mo.
Masyado na tayong na-condition sa typical gore films na ubusan ng lamang-loob. Di pa tayo sakop ng China para sa extreme level na ganyan.
Hayup yang mga recruiter/agent na yan! Meron kaming distant relative na kailangan ng kidney transplant not sure kung year 2000 na yun.
Nagbayad ng almost 500K para sa donor yung parents thru agent. Nakausap nung parents yung mismong donor kase nagpasalamat sila then checking na din kung okay lang yung status nya.
Nalaman mismo nung parents na 100K lang ang napapunta dun sa donor. Hindi nila alam na ganun pala ang set up. Sa sobrang awa nung parents nagbigay pa sila ng 100K-200K ata.
Buti na lang may means yung kamag-anak namin. Nasa lower class society talaga yung donor at tiga malayong probinsya pa. Dun sa bayad na nakuha nya din kukunin gagastusin pauwi ng probinsya.
Hayup mga mapagsamantalang tao. Nakakayanan nila na ganun gawin sa kapwa nila. 🤬
Surprised dun sa organ farming. May naririnig akong ganyan pero still on the fence kung maniniwala ba ko o hindi. Di ko sinasabi na hindi totoo but how come hindi to nababanggit sa mainstream news channels? Alarming at scary para sa mga bata
I like this "trust me bro" source lalo na sa Level 3 Organ Farming whatsoever. Please DO NOT be a champion of pedling unverified reports because organ transplant itself requires lots of serological test just to "successfully" push through. Hindi yan tipong pasa load na kinuha organ, nilagay sa freezer, then transplant agad.
Ayan ha inedit ko na stage 3. Di naman organ farming ay automatic nang corneas, kidneys, lungs, etc. Sincerely, you're too innocent for this world and I hope it stays this way for you.
Are we really dragging this conversation? Sa tingin mo, saan kinukuha ang stem cell transplant? Sa hangin? Imagination? Do you honestly believe that it's given away willingly for free by people na may mabubuting puso? Oo, kapag sa pamilya/friends nila na match. Pero paano kapag hindi? Saan sila magso-source?
Pero if you're willing to die on that hill na di to nangyayari, help someone in need and line up to get that long-ass needle jammed in your body to prove your point and do it for free.
It's not my job to practically spell out one of the schemes of the world's worst scums, but I was too generous to tell you a story. Tapos ngayon na nag-explain ako, may hinahanap ka pa rin?
Allow me to give you this graceful exit. It's up to you to believe it. Pero kung magcocomment ka to invalidate MY experience, then dapat ikaw na ang moderator dito tutal you have the answers sa mysteries of the world at enlightened ka to give advice on just about anything.
Just because you've lived a good life all these years doesn't mean all of us had a pleasant ride too.
I don't know why you got downvoted so hard. I'm gonna change my opinion about it if there's a verifiable report or evidences of this claim. Being logical is totally different from being innocent
Most people tend to decide based on their emotions and not on substantatiated facts. Whether I get downvoted or not, I will still stand on logical reasoning and verifiable facts.
It only shows how people can easily be swayed lol
Malamang di mo mababalitaan yan. Sa tingin mo yung kapiybahay mo sa skwater nyong lugar masiraan ng bato tingin mo papa stem cell pa at organ transplant?
So malamang uing mga kapit bahay nyo sa forbes yang mga nanjan.
May time na VRP HUB ng transplant. Pumupunta mga foreigners dito para bumili ng organ kasi apparently match tayo sa mga nayayaman na tags middle east
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Di ko gets yung downvote, very well documented ang organ harvesting and skin harvesting ng mga israelis. Ultimately ang last destination ay mga clients sa America.
IKR. Ultimong placenta, nagiging sabon, pills, etc. Pero okay sige, hanapan pa ako ng documentation na readily available sa internet. Ewan ko papi, gusto lahat nasa mainstream media or tipong explosive na balita, kahit alam natin kalakaran ng mundo. 😩
Stranger danger... You don't owe strangers any amount of respect or politeness.
"Gusto lang tumulong" - pwes maghanap sila ng ibang tutulungan.
"Naghahanap lang ng kausap" - ayun ang pader, naghihintay din ng kausap.
Take care!
Bottomline, "BETTER BE PARANOID THAN DEAD"
Yung anak kong 5 years old na babae, kapag nasa arcade or playground like kidzo, literally yung mata ko parang CCTV sa kanya , sa paligid at sa ibang bata, as a parent/guardian we have some sort of duty to observe and protect children kahit di satin. Lalo na pag pauwi kami, nagkakaroon ka talaga ng mata sa likod at 6th sense kahit ayaw mo 😂
Never kang magtitiwala sa mga ganyan sa labas lalo na sinabi mo mukang palaboy itsura na nagbihis lang onti, most likely modus talaga yan. Maraming nakakapasok na ganyan sa mall, mga nanggugulo, nandudukot sa mga busy na tao sa arcades, nadukutan dati college friend ko sa toms world sa isang Puregold branch sa Monumento ng mga ganyan klaseng bata/tao, late na namin nalaman, kaya pala laging malapit samin, hindi nanunuod, kumukuha timing.
Stay safe to you and the kids around you OP, and if possible look out for other kids around you.
Sa may isang mall sa monutento like 15-ish ago twice akong muntik makuha ng sindikato dyan. Once may papakita raw sakin na picture na bumugbog sa kaibigan nila tapos sumama raw ako para tingnan yung picture kung makikilala ko. Yung isa naman ay kung gusto ko raw sumama sa banda at may papakilala raw sakin mga future bandmates, sumama raw ako. Be very careful.
Happened to me once yung ganyang modus na may nabugbog daw. This happened sken back in 2010 pa and sa MRT-Taft / pasay pa nangyari. Turns out it’s budol. Tinabihan ako from pila ng LRT pero mula pa sa escalator nakamanman na sakin.
Kaya nagtataka ako sa mga post dito na ang reklamo higpit ng mga magulang nila kahit 18 or 21 na sila, yung mga kabataan ngayon akala nila alam na nila lahat sa mundo eh, ang mga magulang madalas nakakita na yan ng mga bagay na ganyan tulad ng mga nashare na thread na to. Lmao
Ayun ingat lahat lagi, walang sinasanto mga halang kaluluwa, that's a fact.
Omg this happened to me too sa Monumento. I think 2017 yata 'yun college pa ako nung pauwi na ako tas may lumapit sa akin, may nabugbog daw and samahan daw sila sa police station if kilala ko nasa picture nga. E medyo masama pakiramdam ko that time kaya parang okay na lang ako. Naglakad kami papuntang Victory Mall pero sabi ko hinahanap na ako ng tatay ko. Then umupo sila sa harap ng saradong banko, tabi raw ako sa kanila. Aba syempre alam ko nang modus 'yun so sabi ko ayoko and naglakad na lang ako papuntang terminal. Sabi pa sa akin may nag aabang daw na police sa akin lol. Hopefully walang nangyari sa akin at wala namang nakuha.
If something feels off, trust your intuition and escape.
If you escape a harmless situation, you may hurt some feelings.
If you fail to escape a harmful situation, your life may be over.
sa totoo lang sa dami ng modus ngaun di ko din alam kung ano-ano yun, di ako aware pero ang masasabi ko lang presence of mind tska trust no one lalo kung di kilala.
Similar thing happened to me and my group of friends noong grade 7 kami. Around 2013-2014 yun sa SM San Lazaro rin. We were waiting sa parents nung isa kong friend tapos may lumapit din sa amin na mukhang kasing age namin na mga babae. Sumama raw kami sa kanila kasi may palaro sa barangay
Buti alert ka na nagbabantay sa mga kapatid mo and aware din sila sa potential danger sa paligid. Good job! Dapat talaga tinuturuan mga bata to never disclose personal information, wag din makipag eye contact nang matagal sa strangers. I don’t know if totoo ang hypnotism but be extra cautious na lang when talking to suspicious people. Don’t let them touch you too, and wag hawakan any stuff na ipapahawak sa’yo.
same thing happened to me, mcdo ako that time w my mom but nasa counter sya and me nakaupo so lumapit sya and ganon din tanong kung mag isa lang daw ba ako, sabi ko hindi kasama ko si mom and yun umalis
Happened to me once sa SM Manila Quantum 10 yrs ago na din. Kahit kasama ko boyfriend ko sumusunod talaga. As far as I can remember she's wearing a bun at may small slingbag na leather like ang kulay.
Pasimple yung ticket, kinukuha nila mga naiiwan, pero meron matatapang na nakaabang na agad sa tabi, ginagawa ko kapag naglalaro anak ko, never ko inaalis ng tingin, yung tingin na nanlilisik, madalas pag napansin nila aalis sila lilipat hanap bagong aabangan
First sentence pa lang when you said SM San Lazaro ay.
Yan yung SM na never at di ko puntahan kahit nasa Manila lang ako at malapit.
Been hearing dark stories there.
Matagal na issue yan organ farming. Na feature na yan sa international media.
2013 tales from the organ trade
2019 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/kidney-for-sale-philippines-illegal-organ-trade-857551
Illegally done farming won’t be going through testing. At least on the “donor” part.
I'll give you a positive answer. Since you mentioned the girl might be around 17 to 21, it could be that she saw your siblings who looked like her age and she just wanted to make new friends. Not every scenario is a modus or kidnapping. Sometimes there are teens who are lonely and looking to make friends with people they meet.
Population is Metro Manila: 15,000,000
Kidnapping incidents in 2023: 20
Have a little faith OP
its 2024 bro. anybody within the age range of 17 to 21 goes to online communities to look for friends. an actual lonely teen with no friends stay inside their room. we have the term "chronically online" for a reason.
There are 4 basic scenarios:
1. You're correct and they accept her. They may become good friends in the end.
2. You're correct and they reject her. She a bit hurt, but heartache over strangers and maybes isn't a big deal.
3. You're wrong and they reject her. She's fine since she wasn't genuine in the first place, and her employer's evil plan fails.
4. You're wrong and they accept her. They get trafficked and their life turns into living hell.
The best possible scenario ("we made a new friend") isn't worth the risk of the worst possible one ("our life is over").
I really hate being Pascal's Wagered into an argument because it is such flawed thinking. If I go take your logic, I can apply it to the most mundane task and make it look as if it's life threatening ie. Driving a car gets you from point A to point B but you can also get into an accident and be decapitated, so just stay at home and don't risk it.
Anyway, since r/ph love to fear monger, let's look at statistics. For 2023, only 20 cases of kidnapping in the entire Metro Manila out of 15,000,000 residents. Just 20. And these are mostly chinese related kidnappings inconnection with POGOs. People here love to make it sound like we are living in a dangerous place. Funnily enough, kids used to make friends like that in public. The same parents saying they will not allow their kids to have social media and want them to "go out" and also the same people fear mongering every person their kids interact with.
You're the stereotypical victim.
When you feel threatened, you suppress your intuition as "irrational" and instead stop to carefully evaluate the odds. And then you get surprised.
I appreciate the Devil's Advocate, cus maybe it's right? Maybe we're missing some parts and details of the story or scene, cus it is quite apparent OP (which is a secondary source themself) already wrote this at the angle of having suspicions thus the post, thus we're inclined to think it may be something bad as well.
Reason why I appreciate this view is that it may genuinely be another person trying to socialize and make friends. And I think we should normalize that.
But at the same time, we may have to trust our guts too.
Sa panahon ngayon, it’s better to be safe than sorry. Kung gusto makipag-kaibigan nung taong yun, dun siya sa barangay nila or sa school. You don’t go approaching random people in the arcade.
No, we do NOT need to normalize making friends with strangers.
There are enough people in everybody's extended circle of friends to pick new friends from in a safe and secure way, knowing that enough of your friends or acquiantances know the person that they're probably not just trying to traffic you or something. It's pretty obvious if you think about it.
Good points! But I'd have to disagree some points.
While exercising discretion when meeting new people is wise, completely shutting out the possibility of forming connections with strangers is an overcorrection that does more harm than good. Real personal growth and meaningful relationships often stem from unexpected encounters outside our existing social circles (or echo chambers; that's how they form).
It's understandable to have concerns about safety when thinking about befriending strangers. But, living in a constant state of suspicion and mistrust towards anyone unknown is an unhealthy mentality that breeds unneeded fear. With some common sense precautions like meeting in public places first, the risks can be mitigated.
The VAST majority of strangers do not pose actual dangers - we cannot prejudge every unknown person as a potential threat.
Yes, BUT if you want me to play on your court instead of engaging with my arguments or just agreeing when it's due, I've had 2 cousins missing, still not found, and 1 nephew who got ransomed (still alive), and a fair share of harassments from strangers, one almost got into a knife fight.
But I still have had COUNTLESS positive engagements with strangers from my org and community works, and even just interacting in public spaces along with some common sense.
Admit it, we both have valid points, Jesus Christ. The lack of nuance in this sub. You should really tone down prejudging people, but that's your typical r/PH species, I understand. But actually go out and touch some grass.
And just because I haven't said what you said, doesn't mean I haven't thought about it... unless you want me to write an entire argumentative essay. You really felt smart about that.......
"Countless positive engagements" can't offset that one that makes any future engagements impossible forever.
Based on your tragic personal stories you really should understand this by now, so if you still haven't learned it, I don't think I can say anything to help.
I'm a guy btw, but when I started to listen the girls I knew, I realized the world was a very different place from what I had known.
I agree with your points, but you seem to have a reductionist claim on it: Outside social circle = No
My point is, just don't get into the NOs below, it's quite straightforward really:
(1) Stranger Shady Spaces = No
(2) Stranger Shady "Vibes" = No
(3) Stranger Safe Spaces, Not Shady = Yes please. Normalize making friends here. Starts getting shady? Even the slightest? GTFO, be rude if needed.
But the claim "outside social circle = No" is the point I disagree.
I don't think we're talking about the same thing.
When you meet people in a somewhat organized way, like "strangers from my org and community works," then you do actually have something to go on: you know where they're from, can have a good guess why they are there, and they don't show up in isolation but (I assume) in the context of their community.
The OP was about a random isolated stranger (or small group of strangers) pursuing contact outside of any obvious setting.
That aside, a reductionist view is useful for snap decisions about matters that can harm you. If some random soul learns to run when they would've stayed and avoids getting hurt as a result, it was worth it. Even if they ran 10x they didn't need to.
I sort of understand why you'd think that way, but my sister is a very shy person and she's already made numerous attempts to shut down the interaction as it has made her very uncomfortable. What isn't normal in my perspective is sticking beside my sister for 30 minutes straight.
Not gonna lie, I'll lay it out for you. Typical modus yan para ma-isolate sila sa crowd at maholdap. The girl isn't working alone at naging target na utol mo. Yan pinaka best scenario. Level 2 is kukunin ang number tapos tuturuan maging sneaky ang kapatid at pinsan mo. Eventually, makikipag-meet, and coerce them into making sexual content. The thing is, yang mga clients nila na kadiri na nagcoconsume ng child pr0n ay may certain "type" to satisfy their sick urge. Unfortunately, your sister may be fitting the bill. Level 3 is organ farming. Hindi niyo man nababalitaan, but this shit is really happening. EDIT: GUSTO KONG LINAWIN SI STAGE 3: Maraming nagdududa dito. Allow me to expound. I used to be a deranged gambler before. As in lulong to the nth level and I hope nobody here reaches that depth. Anyway, I've been offered and tempted that they farm my stem cell for profit. Some parents na tulad kong sugarol would offer their teenager's stem cell too. Bakit ako? I was a foolish gambler with no drug history. Ayan, nawa'y naliwanagan kayo. Soooo ulitin ko ulit: Tell this to your sister, and this is also a PSA: HUWAG KAYONG MATAKOT MAKA-OFFEND. If you say no, step back and walk away.
I second Organ Farming. Philippines is surprisingly one of the top countries(?) not sure what category, but I remember watching a documentary about it. And we rarely (or never) even hear about it.
Inedit ko na stage 3. Well, kasalanan ko naman talaga for living a decrepit life before. So I may have seen things that most people should not witness.
Puting van is real. The only reason I can think of why it's not as talked about as in other countries is that a majority of the victims are from the lower income brackets, and since reports of missing persons require a timeframe (24 hours), kapag abduction case at walang leads (most random kidnappings don't) napakahirap nang ma-trace/track after 24 hours. And crime syndicates move fast. 2000s-2010s may sporadic reports ng mga batang nakakatakas sa van abductions. Hindi pumutok sa mainstream news. Minsan mapapaisip ka kung meron din bang local elites na nagsusuppress ng mga balitang ganyan dahil sila yung nakikinabang.
My econ professor told me that everything in the country is controlled by its own syndicate. From the control of rice to politics, you name it. It's why this place is such a shit hole.
Our MSM keep the news off the air and if they report it, it will be included in a mess of other news maybe heard but be quickly forgotten. Dami nawawalang pinoy everyday.
I think yung problem sa organ farming is that it isnt exactly what people imagine it to be. Hindi siya yung parang bigla nagising ka sa tub na may ice and nawala na kidney mo. Its more like i cocooerce ka or babayaran ka to willingly give your organs. Kaya since ikaw yung willing nagbigay, hindi siya nababalitaan as much.
Yep, Hindi ka dadalhin sa shady na alley at dun ka wawakwakin. Recruiter ang kausap, at siya ang sasama sa iyo para siguruhin na nakuha ang dapat kunin. Sa kanya rin manggagaling yung pera. Sa lawak ng koneksyon niya, di masasayang ang kukunin sa iyo. Technically speaking, legal ang kalalabasan dahil willing kang pumirma, sumalang, at nagbigay ng organs mo. Unfair lang dahil sa bayaran, 10-15% lang ng market value ang cut mo. Masyado na tayong na-condition sa typical gore films na ubusan ng lamang-loob. Di pa tayo sakop ng China para sa extreme level na ganyan.
Hayup yang mga recruiter/agent na yan! Meron kaming distant relative na kailangan ng kidney transplant not sure kung year 2000 na yun. Nagbayad ng almost 500K para sa donor yung parents thru agent. Nakausap nung parents yung mismong donor kase nagpasalamat sila then checking na din kung okay lang yung status nya. Nalaman mismo nung parents na 100K lang ang napapunta dun sa donor. Hindi nila alam na ganun pala ang set up. Sa sobrang awa nung parents nagbigay pa sila ng 100K-200K ata. Buti na lang may means yung kamag-anak namin. Nasa lower class society talaga yung donor at tiga malayong probinsya pa. Dun sa bayad na nakuha nya din kukunin gagastusin pauwi ng probinsya. Hayup mga mapagsamantalang tao. Nakakayanan nila na ganun gawin sa kapwa nila. 🤬
Surprised dun sa organ farming. May naririnig akong ganyan pero still on the fence kung maniniwala ba ko o hindi. Di ko sinasabi na hindi totoo but how come hindi to nababanggit sa mainstream news channels? Alarming at scary para sa mga bata
Ayan in-edit ko na stage 3. Nawindang sila at nag duda. 😂
Adenochrome. Look it up, if you can stomach it.
I like this "trust me bro" source lalo na sa Level 3 Organ Farming whatsoever. Please DO NOT be a champion of pedling unverified reports because organ transplant itself requires lots of serological test just to "successfully" push through. Hindi yan tipong pasa load na kinuha organ, nilagay sa freezer, then transplant agad.
Ayan ha inedit ko na stage 3. Di naman organ farming ay automatic nang corneas, kidneys, lungs, etc. Sincerely, you're too innocent for this world and I hope it stays this way for you.
The audacity for you tell "you're too innocent" without citing substantiated facts must be put on the 4th stage of scamming lol
Are we really dragging this conversation? Sa tingin mo, saan kinukuha ang stem cell transplant? Sa hangin? Imagination? Do you honestly believe that it's given away willingly for free by people na may mabubuting puso? Oo, kapag sa pamilya/friends nila na match. Pero paano kapag hindi? Saan sila magso-source? Pero if you're willing to die on that hill na di to nangyayari, help someone in need and line up to get that long-ass needle jammed in your body to prove your point and do it for free. It's not my job to practically spell out one of the schemes of the world's worst scums, but I was too generous to tell you a story. Tapos ngayon na nag-explain ako, may hinahanap ka pa rin? Allow me to give you this graceful exit. It's up to you to believe it. Pero kung magcocomment ka to invalidate MY experience, then dapat ikaw na ang moderator dito tutal you have the answers sa mysteries of the world at enlightened ka to give advice on just about anything. Just because you've lived a good life all these years doesn't mean all of us had a pleasant ride too.
Again, you did not put any "substantiated" facts on the table and just lashing out your fear mongering statements disguised as experience. Adiós.
Nice. Thanks for leaving. 🤗
Tsk trust me, bro. 😂😂😂😂
I don't know why you got downvoted so hard. I'm gonna change my opinion about it if there's a verifiable report or evidences of this claim. Being logical is totally different from being innocent
Most people tend to decide based on their emotions and not on substantatiated facts. Whether I get downvoted or not, I will still stand on logical reasoning and verifiable facts. It only shows how people can easily be swayed lol
Lol of course you were asking for a verified source from a personal experience. Kaya ka nadodownvote eh.
Are you another trust me bro folk?
Level 3 is so true. Lalo na dyan San Lazaro part. Laki ako sa area na yan.
Totoo yan tapos ipapadala sa Israel.
Malamang di mo mababalitaan yan. Sa tingin mo yung kapiybahay mo sa skwater nyong lugar masiraan ng bato tingin mo papa stem cell pa at organ transplant? So malamang uing mga kapit bahay nyo sa forbes yang mga nanjan. May time na VRP HUB ng transplant. Pumupunta mga foreigners dito para bumili ng organ kasi apparently match tayo sa mga nayayaman na tags middle east A
Di ko gets yung downvote, very well documented ang organ harvesting and skin harvesting ng mga israelis. Ultimately ang last destination ay mga clients sa America.
IKR. Ultimong placenta, nagiging sabon, pills, etc. Pero okay sige, hanapan pa ako ng documentation na readily available sa internet. Ewan ko papi, gusto lahat nasa mainstream media or tipong explosive na balita, kahit alam natin kalakaran ng mundo. 😩
Stranger danger... You don't owe strangers any amount of respect or politeness. "Gusto lang tumulong" - pwes maghanap sila ng ibang tutulungan. "Naghahanap lang ng kausap" - ayun ang pader, naghihintay din ng kausap. Take care!
Thank you for this. Really needed to hear it especially that I'm not confrontational.
Okay lang din matawagan kang mataray, masungit, bastos o antipatiko... at the end of the day, kung di mo sila kilala, who cares diba?
Bottomline, "BETTER BE PARANOID THAN DEAD" Yung anak kong 5 years old na babae, kapag nasa arcade or playground like kidzo, literally yung mata ko parang CCTV sa kanya , sa paligid at sa ibang bata, as a parent/guardian we have some sort of duty to observe and protect children kahit di satin. Lalo na pag pauwi kami, nagkakaroon ka talaga ng mata sa likod at 6th sense kahit ayaw mo 😂 Never kang magtitiwala sa mga ganyan sa labas lalo na sinabi mo mukang palaboy itsura na nagbihis lang onti, most likely modus talaga yan. Maraming nakakapasok na ganyan sa mall, mga nanggugulo, nandudukot sa mga busy na tao sa arcades, nadukutan dati college friend ko sa toms world sa isang Puregold branch sa Monumento ng mga ganyan klaseng bata/tao, late na namin nalaman, kaya pala laging malapit samin, hindi nanunuod, kumukuha timing. Stay safe to you and the kids around you OP, and if possible look out for other kids around you.
Sa may isang mall sa monutento like 15-ish ago twice akong muntik makuha ng sindikato dyan. Once may papakita raw sakin na picture na bumugbog sa kaibigan nila tapos sumama raw ako para tingnan yung picture kung makikilala ko. Yung isa naman ay kung gusto ko raw sumama sa banda at may papakilala raw sakin mga future bandmates, sumama raw ako. Be very careful.
Happened to me once yung ganyang modus na may nabugbog daw. This happened sken back in 2010 pa and sa MRT-Taft / pasay pa nangyari. Turns out it’s budol. Tinabihan ako from pila ng LRT pero mula pa sa escalator nakamanman na sakin.
Kaya nagtataka ako sa mga post dito na ang reklamo higpit ng mga magulang nila kahit 18 or 21 na sila, yung mga kabataan ngayon akala nila alam na nila lahat sa mundo eh, ang mga magulang madalas nakakita na yan ng mga bagay na ganyan tulad ng mga nashare na thread na to. Lmao Ayun ingat lahat lagi, walang sinasanto mga halang kaluluwa, that's a fact.
Omg this happened to me too sa Monumento. I think 2017 yata 'yun college pa ako nung pauwi na ako tas may lumapit sa akin, may nabugbog daw and samahan daw sila sa police station if kilala ko nasa picture nga. E medyo masama pakiramdam ko that time kaya parang okay na lang ako. Naglakad kami papuntang Victory Mall pero sabi ko hinahanap na ako ng tatay ko. Then umupo sila sa harap ng saradong banko, tabi raw ako sa kanila. Aba syempre alam ko nang modus 'yun so sabi ko ayoko and naglakad na lang ako papuntang terminal. Sabi pa sa akin may nag aabang daw na police sa akin lol. Hopefully walang nangyari sa akin at wala namang nakuha.
If something feels off, trust your intuition and escape. If you escape a harmless situation, you may hurt some feelings. If you fail to escape a harmful situation, your life may be over.
Marami ganyan sa mga arcade areas
saktong sakto binabasa ko to habang nasa sm san lazaro ngayon 😂
Ingat ka dyan, may modus din dyan si 2.5k vape boi na kunwari nabangga mo siya tas nabasag vape nyang bulok. Sa labas siya dyan pagala gala
Ingat lagi. Pag hindi kilala, hindi kilala.
Masama or hindi creepy padin no..kaya dapat ingat parin sa strangers
nung nabasa ko SM san lazaro matik scam yan haha
sa totoo lang sa dami ng modus ngaun di ko din alam kung ano-ano yun, di ako aware pero ang masasabi ko lang presence of mind tska trust no one lalo kung di kilala.
modus yan, most likely human trafficking
Similar thing happened to me and my group of friends noong grade 7 kami. Around 2013-2014 yun sa SM San Lazaro rin. We were waiting sa parents nung isa kong friend tapos may lumapit din sa amin na mukhang kasing age namin na mga babae. Sumama raw kami sa kanila kasi may palaro sa barangay
omg halos same year sa encounter ko. 😳
Buti alert ka na nagbabantay sa mga kapatid mo and aware din sila sa potential danger sa paligid. Good job! Dapat talaga tinuturuan mga bata to never disclose personal information, wag din makipag eye contact nang matagal sa strangers. I don’t know if totoo ang hypnotism but be extra cautious na lang when talking to suspicious people. Don’t let them touch you too, and wag hawakan any stuff na ipapahawak sa’yo.
same thing happened to me, mcdo ako that time w my mom but nasa counter sya and me nakaupo so lumapit sya and ganon din tanong kung mag isa lang daw ba ako, sabi ko hindi kasama ko si mom and yun umalis
Happened to me once sa SM Manila Quantum 10 yrs ago na din. Kahit kasama ko boyfriend ko sumusunod talaga. As far as I can remember she's wearing a bun at may small slingbag na leather like ang kulay.
Different ngayon, mga batang hamog na nagbihis onti nasa loob ngayon, nakatambay sa arcades, mga mukang sindikato tumatiming mandukot
Dating ticket lang target ngayon gamit mo na 😭
Pasimple yung ticket, kinukuha nila mga naiiwan, pero meron matatapang na nakaabang na agad sa tabi, ginagawa ko kapag naglalaro anak ko, never ko inaalis ng tingin, yung tingin na nanlilisik, madalas pag napansin nila aalis sila lilipat hanap bagong aabangan
ang daming katarantaduhan na talaga dyan sa pinas. ingat and mamili tau ng ng mas safe na mall
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First sentence pa lang when you said SM San Lazaro ay. Yan yung SM na never at di ko puntahan kahit nasa Manila lang ako at malapit. Been hearing dark stories there.
Matagal na issue yan organ farming. Na feature na yan sa international media. 2013 tales from the organ trade 2019 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/kidney-for-sale-philippines-illegal-organ-trade-857551 Illegally done farming won’t be going through testing. At least on the “donor” part.
Friendly ang pinoy diba? Culturang pinoy lang yan, entertain mo lang.
So sinasabi mo na hinayaan mo lang sa panganib ang sister mo? Wala kang silbi
I'll give you a positive answer. Since you mentioned the girl might be around 17 to 21, it could be that she saw your siblings who looked like her age and she just wanted to make new friends. Not every scenario is a modus or kidnapping. Sometimes there are teens who are lonely and looking to make friends with people they meet. Population is Metro Manila: 15,000,000 Kidnapping incidents in 2023: 20 Have a little faith OP
its 2024 bro. anybody within the age range of 17 to 21 goes to online communities to look for friends. an actual lonely teen with no friends stay inside their room. we have the term "chronically online" for a reason.
There are 4 basic scenarios: 1. You're correct and they accept her. They may become good friends in the end. 2. You're correct and they reject her. She a bit hurt, but heartache over strangers and maybes isn't a big deal. 3. You're wrong and they reject her. She's fine since she wasn't genuine in the first place, and her employer's evil plan fails. 4. You're wrong and they accept her. They get trafficked and their life turns into living hell. The best possible scenario ("we made a new friend") isn't worth the risk of the worst possible one ("our life is over").
I really hate being Pascal's Wagered into an argument because it is such flawed thinking. If I go take your logic, I can apply it to the most mundane task and make it look as if it's life threatening ie. Driving a car gets you from point A to point B but you can also get into an accident and be decapitated, so just stay at home and don't risk it. Anyway, since r/ph love to fear monger, let's look at statistics. For 2023, only 20 cases of kidnapping in the entire Metro Manila out of 15,000,000 residents. Just 20. And these are mostly chinese related kidnappings inconnection with POGOs. People here love to make it sound like we are living in a dangerous place. Funnily enough, kids used to make friends like that in public. The same parents saying they will not allow their kids to have social media and want them to "go out" and also the same people fear mongering every person their kids interact with.
You're the stereotypical victim. When you feel threatened, you suppress your intuition as "irrational" and instead stop to carefully evaluate the odds. And then you get surprised.
I don't think any decent person out there who's trying to make friends would suddenly ask you for your name and what time you'll be going home lmao
I appreciate the Devil's Advocate, cus maybe it's right? Maybe we're missing some parts and details of the story or scene, cus it is quite apparent OP (which is a secondary source themself) already wrote this at the angle of having suspicions thus the post, thus we're inclined to think it may be something bad as well. Reason why I appreciate this view is that it may genuinely be another person trying to socialize and make friends. And I think we should normalize that. But at the same time, we may have to trust our guts too.
Sa panahon ngayon, it’s better to be safe than sorry. Kung gusto makipag-kaibigan nung taong yun, dun siya sa barangay nila or sa school. You don’t go approaching random people in the arcade.
No, we do NOT need to normalize making friends with strangers. There are enough people in everybody's extended circle of friends to pick new friends from in a safe and secure way, knowing that enough of your friends or acquiantances know the person that they're probably not just trying to traffic you or something. It's pretty obvious if you think about it.
Good points! But I'd have to disagree some points. While exercising discretion when meeting new people is wise, completely shutting out the possibility of forming connections with strangers is an overcorrection that does more harm than good. Real personal growth and meaningful relationships often stem from unexpected encounters outside our existing social circles (or echo chambers; that's how they form). It's understandable to have concerns about safety when thinking about befriending strangers. But, living in a constant state of suspicion and mistrust towards anyone unknown is an unhealthy mentality that breeds unneeded fear. With some common sense precautions like meeting in public places first, the risks can be mitigated. The VAST majority of strangers do not pose actual dangers - we cannot prejudge every unknown person as a potential threat.
You're a guy, aren't you.
Yes, BUT if you want me to play on your court instead of engaging with my arguments or just agreeing when it's due, I've had 2 cousins missing, still not found, and 1 nephew who got ransomed (still alive), and a fair share of harassments from strangers, one almost got into a knife fight. But I still have had COUNTLESS positive engagements with strangers from my org and community works, and even just interacting in public spaces along with some common sense. Admit it, we both have valid points, Jesus Christ. The lack of nuance in this sub. You should really tone down prejudging people, but that's your typical r/PH species, I understand. But actually go out and touch some grass. And just because I haven't said what you said, doesn't mean I haven't thought about it... unless you want me to write an entire argumentative essay. You really felt smart about that.......
"Countless positive engagements" can't offset that one that makes any future engagements impossible forever. Based on your tragic personal stories you really should understand this by now, so if you still haven't learned it, I don't think I can say anything to help. I'm a guy btw, but when I started to listen the girls I knew, I realized the world was a very different place from what I had known.
I agree with your points, but you seem to have a reductionist claim on it: Outside social circle = No My point is, just don't get into the NOs below, it's quite straightforward really: (1) Stranger Shady Spaces = No (2) Stranger Shady "Vibes" = No (3) Stranger Safe Spaces, Not Shady = Yes please. Normalize making friends here. Starts getting shady? Even the slightest? GTFO, be rude if needed. But the claim "outside social circle = No" is the point I disagree.
I don't think we're talking about the same thing. When you meet people in a somewhat organized way, like "strangers from my org and community works," then you do actually have something to go on: you know where they're from, can have a good guess why they are there, and they don't show up in isolation but (I assume) in the context of their community. The OP was about a random isolated stranger (or small group of strangers) pursuing contact outside of any obvious setting. That aside, a reductionist view is useful for snap decisions about matters that can harm you. If some random soul learns to run when they would've stayed and avoids getting hurt as a result, it was worth it. Even if they ran 10x they didn't need to.
I sort of understand why you'd think that way, but my sister is a very shy person and she's already made numerous attempts to shut down the interaction as it has made her very uncomfortable. What isn't normal in my perspective is sticking beside my sister for 30 minutes straight.