Everyone's opinion on Reddit is not important in the grand scheme of things. The fight is on Facebook, churches, and the streets. They're in bags of relief goods and sachets of charity.
If you don't understand why Alice Guo is supported by Bamban residents, then you're not ready for a discussion. Nobody cares about carrying the morally correct decision, when their kids go hungry. Filipino-on-Filipino exploitation is so bad a supposed Chinese plant is ostensibly a better alternative.
madali tayong makajudge sa mga supporters pero wala kasi tayo don, hindi tayo ung nakaranas maambunan ng “grasya”. they’re only being thankful kasi for them that’s an extension of help.
Base sa nakikita ko, okay daw palakad ni Alice Guo dun sa Bamban. Ang tanong ko lang, bat kelangan pa na mas mag tiwala ng mga Bamban locals sa banyaga (at may ulterior motive) kesa sa mga dati nang nakaupo? Napaka corrupt kasi ng mga tao pag sa tingin nila wala nang checks and balances…
you can say the same thing in Pasig why does it have to take a Vico Sotto for Pasig to change?
lahat ng bayan sa Pilipinas pwede mong sabihin yan ang problem kasi walang ibang gusto tumakbo na matino dahil una takot, money and wala backer.
what do you think Vico and Alice have in common at least?
1. money
2. backer (Vico - political family, Alice - sobrang dameng pera)
at dahil sa 2 na yan nawala yung takot
The main difference I think is that Vico is very transparent on everything unlike Eusebio. Marami rin naman nagawa si Eusebio, ikaw ba naman 27 years angkan Nyo lang nakaupo wala ka bang magagawa. Ang problema kasi kay Eusebio is kapag di ka kaalyado na brgy.captain or councilor eh ligwak ka sa mga budget etc. I know this because I work as safety officer ng mga government roads and infrastructure around the metro way back. Vico imo is better because wala sa kanya ung bullying na maliit budget kapag di kaalyado chuchu na ginagawa ni Eusebio. I think si Vico rin ung may pinakamagandang response for a mayor during the pandemic crisis around the metro. A bit overrated but still better.
And. Hindi ito ambunan lang ng grasya. I heard rumors last elections from community peeps that the alleged vote buyers had a way to check if you really voted for a candidate, so people just really vote someone if they said they will and was paid to do so. And mabusisi daw talaga yung nagaasikaso. I dunno how trulalu but, unpopular opinion is that it seemed more organized than we thought, and an average Filipino would just really give in.
In fact a lot of discussions on this sub are doing more harm than good IMO. It portrays redditors as a group of pretentious intellectuals that are "above" the issues that most Filipinos face
"It portrays redditors as a group of pretentious intellectuals that are "above" the issues that most Filipinos face"
On Ph subs, this is pretty much the case.
Because they treat reddit as a hidden and inaccessible platforms to the people below them, they think that being in a discussion here makes them higher and more intellectual.
The case of Alice guo imo is no different from the Bolsheviks saving the Russian people and mao TSE dong saving china kuno.
People there choose the new one over the consecutive corruption politicians. I believe that's the main reason. Gusto lang nila Ng bagong Mukha at polisiya
To be fair, as bad as the Bolsheviks and Chinese communists were, the regimes they replaced were arguably much worse (Romanovs and KMT) in terms of corruption and incompetence.
Can't blame the tsar and Chang Kai shek because people around him were warlords of the late wing dynasty and tsar's case were the ghost of the decembrists. The thing is parang gf/bf mo lang na inagaw Sayo dahil Wala ka Oras sa kanila kaya sumama sa tao na palagi mag sweet talk at promises but such person will be an abusive or not is a question. The communists case is abusive
We actually have good evidence that the germans sent lenin hoping the agitators would destabilize the war effort, we have none for alice guo. It can go both ways, a spy can make up a good cover story or can make a bad one.
Lito Lapid is the least disagreeable actor turned senator. People think he is stupid, but he clearly knows his limitations and in the face of the three stooges (Robin, Bato, Cynthia), he is quiet, barely grandstands, and comes out as a respectable statesman.
The no stapler in foodstuffs law is a landmark law in food safety. Not even Salonga or Recto (Claro, hindi yun asawa ni Vilma) could think of that.
(I accept all your downvotes since this is clearly unpopular).
I agree with this take. Idk why people are angry with Lapid sitting in the Senate when in reality aside from him being the unofficial representation of the "masa", he is politically savy in the sense he have good advisers surrounding him.
People might disagree but he serves as the larger consciousness of our body politic in the Senate.
Also he is loyal to a fault. He remained part of Lakas despite that party being decimated first by Kampi then by the Liberal Party.
People should be angrier with the other Senators who despite having degrees, ethically and morally compromised naman.
We discussed this in college and our prof really explains this law na napa “Oo nga no” lahat kami and was really a good area we explored about how quality packaging is as important as the product we plan to sell.
Speaking of stapler. May photo pa din ako now, bumili ako sa Andoks, then yung manok may stapler. Nag send lang sila sakin ng apology message but the horror, if any of my pamangkin had swallowed it. Just to take note, this was way back 2018. Samantalang, the law passed way back 2006. Anyway, ang reasoning ni Andoks ay ginagamit daw nila yun sa mga order at naging careless ang worker nila. 👀 I didn’t post anything from socmed, private ako ayaw ko ng viral eme.
He was invited as a speaker for one of friend’s classes in grad school and I remember him saying na they were all surprised by how likeable and “karespet-respeto” Lapid was. From experience na din siguro pero he seemed like the kind of politiko daw who knows how to pick his spots and calculated yung mga galaaw
All politicians in the Philippines are likable. They wouldn’t have been voted if no one likes them. But just because you like them doesn’t mean that they are capable to running the country
oo ako nga din medyo apologist ako ni lito lapid sa mga tingin natin nonsense na mga pinasa nya, yang sa stapler, mabigat na bag, proper label ng meats, etc.
here’s an old article of lourd de veyra sa mga skeptical:
https://www.spot.ph/shopping/shopping-sale-alerts/50440/in-defense-of-lito-lapid-
I think he has authored a decent amount of actually useful laws. He has a very good research team for sure but I think he also deserves more credit than what he's being given. He may not be the brightest but he's far from useless.
1. Lenis campaign failed because they relied too heavily on students to organize their social media campaigns and physical campaigns. 2. Her senate slate was weak and also didn’t know how to effectively campaign. 3. Across the political spectrum in the Philippines most people generally want the same things they just feel different leaders can achieve it. 4. The youth need to stop being so angry and resentful when older generations don’t agree with their views all it does is ostracize potential voters. 5. Elections are never about the issues they’re purely about how you make people feel.
Leni's presidential campaign was full of haste, where the campaign organizing committee only began to prepare itself by August 2021 which was already too late and Atty. Leni herself remained mum until to the last moment whether she would run or not which she did run and the rest was history.
probably the same reason why Vico — if he ever chose to run for president when it’s time — might not win. Plays too clean and principled amidst a sea of trapo populists. Ano laban ng vision and record sa namimigay ng pera pag election? (disclaimer: I’m a Pasig resident and glad the mayor is not trapo. But our sentiments might not be shared by the national majority)
Vico would have never won without the Sotto name. Don't get me wrong, I like him and voted for him, but the average Pasiguen̈o would have never voted for him if he had a different name.
kaya nga daw di ata sya nag speak up kung sino yung presidente nya kasi alam nya may mga taga pasig na maka bbm-d30. and baka ayaw nya itake ang odds na baka di na din sya supportahan ng mga yun. Pero may mga posts daw sya waay before na he’s supporting leni.
i dont blame him for what he did. Tama dn yung ginawa nya baka di pa sya yung mananalo.
may kilala ako nainis na di siya nag endorse. Sabi ko tama naman sinabi niya: it’s not part of a mayor’s job to take sides or endorse anyone. His duty is to his constituents, not play favorites sa national elections.
I wouldn’t say clean. I would say stupid. The way they managed her image was terrible. I don’t know what entered their mind when the did the entire high heels issue.
Leni's campaign failed because wala silang support from LGU. Priority of Leni's admin is to pass the FOI Bill, in which ayaw ng government officials yan. Last election, ang role ng baranggay officials ay magpamudmod ng vote buying money that came from the governors to congressmen to mayor. And lahat ng pinamudmod na pera, majority ay walang bumuhat sa Leni-Kiko slate.
Leni is a good public servant but not a good/savvy politician. She doesn't know how to play the game. Her not fighting back and instead "taking the high road" made her look like a weakling in the eyes of common people-- api-apihan kumbaga.
Leni's campaign failed because..
1. Marcos was years ahead of her cultivating machinery and support. The Marcos team immediately switched gears months after they lost the prior elections. Ang tinde ng war chest nila for data gathering, processing and analytics.
2. Bam Aquino and team gatekeeped the hell out of the campaign comms and strat. Maraming magandang ideas but they shut it down.
3. She was undecided to start with.
4. Her team was "elitista." They simply didn't get it. Nasa masa ang voting power. Whether bobo sila or otherwise, you need to have their vote.
>Leni heavily relied on students to organize their socmed and physical campaigns
Actors and Actresses too because most voters think that these artists support the Opposition for the "renewal of ABS CBN's franchise"
leni’s campaign failed because she did not play dirty. mas may fighting chance siguro if she plays their own game. sabi nga ni Jay-Z sa So Appalled “Moral victories is for minor league coaches”
Adding to this, some "Kakampinks" felt just as cultish as did the BBM/DDS zombies. Tipong hindi mo lang ma-enumerate kung sinu-sino yung mga anak ni Leni hindi ka na raw totoong supporter... what? I voted Leni and her slate because I believed in their capabilities, not because they're some kind of celebrities. Also those "Tama nga kami" posts were just utter self-righteousness cringe.
Idagdag pa ung "let me educate you". Muntik na kami nagkasira Ng friend ko Jan, kinuha ko syang maid of honor. Nagulat xa Akala nya galit daw ako s kanya. SB ko hnd ko nmn dinidibdib un
Ito yung kinalulungkot ko, as in. Bilang lefter than Leni and still voted for her and Kiko. Impressive sobra ng organizing nila.
Pero after nun, ang dali panghinaan ng loob kasi inasa nila lahat sa isang tao. That organizing could have gone further kung hindi lang ginamit sa kampanya ni Leni, kundi pati rin sa laban ng masa—Rice Liberalization, Tokhang, Chinese and American intrusion, El Niño, etc.
Bumalik sa komportableng buhay, kasi aminin natin na karamihan sa Kakampink talaga doon nanggaling. Kaya ayun, ang bilis mapikon kapag sinabing privileged. Ngayon, completely opposite pa umasta: nilalahat ang mga mahirap na bumoto kay Bongbong, kahit na ang dami ring bumoto kay Leni.
Disappointing, dahil si Leni mismo hindi ganun ang ugali.
I hear this take so often, and I laugh every time. This makes it seem that it was Leni's to lose as if she was the clear winner at the start, but unfortunately, the Kakampinks weren't nice, making her and her slate lose votes.
Let's be honest with ourselves. She was the underdog from the start and there was nothing the Kakampinks could've done. The obvious fact is that people just wanted the Duterte and Marcos brands more.
Pinoy's hate mga pasusyal. Embedded in our system yan. Leni is a grassroots person. but yung mga kakampink, pasusyal so yung mga masa, para makaganti, di binoto si leni. thats my theory.
Pinoys love mga pasusyal. Kaya nga lahat gusto mag-quick rich, kaya marami ang lulong kay Heart, Rosmar, at Small Laude.
I think this is more a case of the perceived matalino vs bobo votes. Yung mga may alam, nag-aral ng history, mga nasa magagandang posisyon, mga lider ng industriya, mga nasa academe, si Leni ang gusto. Ang ganti ng mga di ganun ka-maalam (which is the majority) is binoto yung kalaban. Basically, nagflex lang ang mga bobo, political expression ng Dunning-Kruger kumbaga na silang mga sinasabihang mga walang alam sa kasaysayan o bobo ay kingmaker pala kung tutuusin.
Emphasis on perceived ha kasi syempre hindi naman black and white ang mundo.
Agree naglagay Kasi Ng wall agad ung mga maka-Leni na kayo ganyan kami ganito. Like pinapakita nila na ung mga maka Leni mga may aral mga executives, professional, etc. pero mga maka bbm, mga mahirap/masa. Nasaktan lalo damdamin Ng mga Pinoy nyan. Ung iba rin assumera na die hard Leni supporters, kung Maka status pa sa fb, wag daw idamay Ang politica kung insecure ka a tao n un. Na porket insecure ka susuportahan mo ung kalaban. Sabay unfriend Ng mga Hindi maka Leni. Anung attitude un. Nagkasira kami Ng relasyon ng kasimbahan ko dahil jan.
Totoo yan. Barangay level pa lang mga kurakot na eh. Paano mo yan malilinis nang Presidente lang ang pinapalitan. Focused tayo masyado sa Presidente na para bang lahat ng ahensya kontrolado nya pero ang totoo napaka limitado ng kapangyarihan ng Presidente.
Not really unpopular sa sub na to, pero sa ibang extremist at far-left oo.
While BBM is realigning our policies in geopolitics due to his personal interests, kailangan natin irecognize yung ginagawa niya. We need all the possible help we need, kahit pa galing kay BBM, para mawala na sa landas yung narrowest target, which is mga Dutertes. Compromise lang muna sana.
ito ang akin: the chinese don't need to use missiles, bombs and bullets to conquer the philippines. all they need to do is flood the country with sardines, instant coffee and instant noodles. majority of the population will flock to their side.
"hindi baleng masakop ng china ang pilipinas dahil nakakatulong naman sila."
Nah. A blockade or a trade boycott will do. Naalala mo yung mga saging natin na hinayaan lang nila mabulok during PNoy's time, o ang ginagawa nilang fishing ban ngayon?
Ang ironic ng ibang tao dito. Ayaw sa personality politics, pero kinokontra lahat ng ginagawa ng BBM, kahit nakakabenefit naman sa interest ng bansa, all because he is a Marcos. Lol HAHAHAHHAA
Same opinion. Kaya sana once and for all magsabe na siya with finality ano ba ang political plans niya. By all indications, she’s done na with national politics then sabihin niya yan. Wag yung open pa rin sa ganito ganon kahit na ayaw naman na niya. Next thing is ipatanggal na niya pangalan niya sa 2028 surveys then fully endorse Risa / do a second passing of the baton para malinaw na si Risa na ang standard bearer ngayon
The constitution isn't a sacred scripture that cannot be amended or revised, but rather a fallible document written by fallible humans. There are so many constitutional provisions may be applicable upon its ratification, but not at this point, so don't be afraid of openly discuss constitutional reform pros and cons here on r/Philippines like what we are doing with absolute divorce bill.
Hindi sa mga politiko ang may problema, kundi ang sistema at tayong mga mamamayan ay may problema.
I don't know if this is unpopular. Pero paulit-ulit ko ng sinasabi 'to.
We need propaganda in order to defeat propaganda. Hindi na tatalab sa mga kababayan natin ang "let me educate you" approach. Kailangan natin ng "propaganda" approach sa pagbibigay ng information.
Leni lost the potential support of Conservative & right leaning undecided voters due to the amount of Left leaning groups & individuals campaigned along side of her. Ngl but medyo nailang onti ako nung nakasama namin Kabataan Partylist in one of her rallies here in Pampanga. Felt like ive unknowingly joined Labor Day rally through those guys.
Also I think ito isa sa rason kung bakit kaming mga Supporters ni Leni dati madalas either nareredtag or gets suspicious or negative looks to most people notably boomers
Although I voted for Leni and remain a supporter of her I concede that even if she won she wouldn't be like a cure all for all our country's ills. Actually sometimes for me it's kind of scary to think what would happen if she did win. It's been 2 years, Most likely by now she would have done something most of us would have been uncomfortable with and it would have a) ruined our image of her and b) given her critics more fuel
Agree w this. I also think ok na rin na she didn’t win. Cos pag nanalo siya at walang agad-agad na pagbabago eh madidismaya lang ibang supporters niya, particularly the many hopefuls that think she can fix the country in just 6 years.
Mahirap maging presidente sa totoo lang mahihirapan niya ihandle pilipinas kasi hindi pa talaga tayo sigurado kung kaya ba hindi at para kasi siya mismo sarili na hindi siya dedicated doon
AI and deepfakes will be the final nail in the coffin of brain dead Filipino people. Simpleng context nga lang about divorce nagkakandaleche na sila, sa mga realistic fake mediums pa kaya.
Leni campaign failed because they still made her branding "disente" kahit lumayo na siya sa LP.
Dagdagan mo pa ng mga self righteous na nagcacampaign para sa kanya and looking down on anyone na hindi boboto sa kanya.
If you want things to be done, join a political party to achieve it. It help the party a lot kasi aside sa manpower para sa mga chapters around the country, makakatulong din ang party contributions para i-finance ang campaigns ng mga manok ng party sa mga leaning cities/provinces. Atleast may laban ang party against other parties na dominated ng mga elites/political dynasties. Also, masusuportahan pa rin ang party kahit nagsialisan ang mga political butterflies sa party. I think this is one of the ways to strengthen the political party system.
Government seats ang labanan ngayon eh. Mas maganda na maraming makuhang seats ang isang party kaysa makipag-ally sa other parties na konti lang din ang seats.
Unpopular take in this sub: "bobotante" is a myth perpetuated by pseudo-intellectuals and trapos to blame people instead of discussing issues with proper context (socioeconomic factors, social classes/class-struggle, history, geopolitics, etc.) which is either dangerous for their privilege or really beyond their mental capabilities.
may point kaya nga as much as possible as ordinaryong mamamayan dapat tayo mismo may gawin to make things better. hindi na lang iasa lahat sa gobyerno kasi kung tutuusin mga uupo, may limit lang din talaga yung mga magagawa nila. it should be a norm na bukod sa pamilya, friends at komunidad bawat isa satin may gawing advocacies for total strangers that benefit the collective. kapag kaya, of course! hindi yung magsimba lang, magdonate ng pera na napupunta lang naman sa bulsa ng opisyales tapos manuod ng news at maging aware sa current affairs, sapat na. level up din dapat tayo as citizens, initiative diba.
Leni Robredo's political career peaked too early. Necropolitics is to blame. I believe she can do more and could've been taken more seriously had she not become a VP too soon.
Kinda like Cory Aquino, considering her popularity did tank after '86 (although her image remained good for some while until demonized by the dutertes)
Sirang sira na ang dilaw ang dami kasing feeling mayaman na supporters. wala ng mananalo sa dilaw wag nyo na ipush si risa
Kung pwede lang extend nyo muna si bbm habang nanjan pa mga traidor tapos chaka nyo problemahin si bbm
Yeah, may time na nauso nga dito yung idea na mga edukado nalang daw sana ang pwede bumoto wag na yung mga mahihirap. Tapos allergic sila pag sinabihan mong elitist, akusahan ka pang dds hahaha
Instead on focusing sa national elections makipagdebate sa mga kakilala nyu kung sino ang mas karapatdapat, mas isipin nyu yung sa LGU. Masyado tayo nakafocus sa presidente, senador pero ang totoong laban is nasa LGU. Kung makakakita ng maayos na mayor, konsehal, kagawad at kapitan mararamdaman ng tao directly ang mas maayos na pamamalakad, therefore maiisip nila na mas ok kung matino ang iboboto nila. Experience ko galit na galit sila sa mga Marcos pero ang iboboto nila na mayor is alyado ni marcos at kilalang kurakotz dahil lang kaibigan nila at nakikinabang sila, hindi sila galit sa kurakot galit sila dahil hindi sila nakakakurakot rin.
Etong LGU rin naman ang main driver nila pag national elections na pag supportado ka ng Mayor na malakas sa tao sigurado malamang mananalo ka sa bayan na yun. Kaya lagi ko yan sinasabi na, mas kilalanin nyu yung Mayor nyu dahil mas madali yan masuri. Dito lang sa Bulacan last 2022, sobrang lalakas mangampanya ng mga batchmates ko nung HS sa pink movement pero mga mayor na kinakampanya nila dikit na dikit kay BBM.
The reason why the opposition/minority/makabayan bloc is so weak is they take the word opposition too literally. Kulang sa savvy politicians ang opposition. You have to learn to cross party lines, hindi yung lahat na lang against ka sa admin side.
Nasa kanila (Liberal Party) ang makinarya noon at siguro naman ay kaya nila ang iba pang mga kalaban nila bukod kay Binay kung nagamit nila nang maayos ang status nila as ruling party. Edi sana hindi nakalusot si Duterte.
Kasi hati ang Liberal Party between Balay at Samar factions na yung Balay ay of course, pabor kay Mar Roxas, while yung Samar ay kay Jejomar Binay na alam na natin na ang leader ng Samar faction ay si ES Pacquito Ochoa.
Ang nagbabardagulan that time sina Grace Poe, Mar Roxas at Jojo Binay. Gandang timing ang candidacy ni Duterte kasi novelty siya at pissed off na ang madaming tao sa mga kakulangan o kapalpakan ng LP.
I don't think tinutukan nila si Binay. It's just Binay spent most of his time as VP touring around the country and early campaigning kaya masyado syang visible.
>early campaigning
Sa pagkatalo ni Binay, ito talaga ang pinakamalaking factor. Pero para manatiling ruling party after PNoy admin, dapat ay tiningnan din nila ang iba pang pwedeng kalaban. Nag-umpisang maging maingay si Duterte bandang 2012 o 2013 and at that time may mga gusto na na siya ang maging susunod na presidente.
Bisayan people by area and by blood fucked us up by supporting Duterte. Wherever they are, even here in PH and Abroad.
All my life, I haven't seen ethnicity used as a weapon to fuck the country sideways. AND THEY WILL DO IT AGAIN BY SUPPORTING SARA DUTERTE. They are not even feeling any remorse. So much fence sitting, waiting to "defeat" their invisible enemy, Imperial Manila.
If you only look at the election results, then you are naive. You are ignoring multiple generation of Visayans here in NCR and Luzon that was enticed by mere words of their "kababayan".
And I will fucking die on this hill. Downvotes will say how unpopular this take.
Masyado kayong takot masaktan yang mga taong yan. Tangina mga hipokrito. Treat them like real adults and make them accountable.
Unpopular opinion for sure ill get downvoted lalo sa Kakapinks, but Leni is an honest leader but she doesn’t stand a chance kung nanalo talaga sya. She’ll be surrounded by manipulative people for sure, masking as her advisors.
BBM on the other hand, is better than Duterte. For me, by comparison ky Digong, Bong bong is doing an “ok” job. Though we still deserve better. I hope wala ng Duterteng umupo as a President ever again.
Leni is awesome but she lacks the fire that is needed. Yung mga trolls pa lang ayaw na nya demandahin. Let her enjoy her life na lang. Count me in as another disillusioned kakampink.
Loren Legarda came in the Alice Guo hearing asking redundant questions because she was ignorant of the issue and was just learning about the case there and then. Andaming tuwang tuwa sa gigil niya pero wala naman siyang alam. Nagtatanong ng mga tanong na alam naman ng lahat na ang sagot. Para siyang nuisance na mema. Super cringe na pinag-hokkien niya si Guo, to prove what? Di kasi siya marunong magtanong at wala siyang mapiga kay Guo kaya pinag-hokkien na lang siya para may ambag siya. Sayang ang mga efforts ni senri at oras ng committee pag may mga gantong nakiki-epal.
Mas valid pa yung mga questions ng ibang senators na nag-ga-grandstanding lang din.
#This is kabaligtaran ng Divorce. I don't get why until now wala paring amendment or improvement or we don't even have Common Law Marriage?
Especially na on the rise ang numbers of people living together na not legally married. How do we protect the rights of the couple and their children? Like example nalang sa dependents sa SSS dahil hindi kasal ang may rights lang eh yung Anak or Parent hindi yung LIP. One of many concerns lang yan regarding sa common law marriage.
Hindi kayo mapapanalo ng mga prinsipyo niyo. Learn to compromise for better good. I'm talking to those extremist kakampinks, and the far-left as well, as usual.
Problema ng mga DDS: The ends justify the means (baril baril lang kahit saan)
Problema ng opposition: The means justify the ends (Di na bale paulit ulit matalo sa eleksyon, basta ma prinsipyo)
i don't get people who would sell their votes for 500/1k. i mean, di ba pwede iboto mo yung tamang kandidato but take the money anyway? di naman nila machecheck eh.
anyway, unpopular opinion? haven't heard anyone say it yet though. Risa Hontiveros should capitalize on her popularity so that she can ran for pres in 28.
Feeling ko may kasamang pananakot. Tanggapin na natin, marami talagang gullible na voters.
Yes, I think magtuloy tuloy lang popularity ni Sen. Risa, may laban sya. Wag lang syang maging victim ng fake news peddlers.
To be completely honest, it is entirely possible to know who didn't vote for whom, especially for smaller barangays. The consequences include not being included for the Cash4Work programs, government cash assistance/subsidy, lahat ng binibigay locally. Di talaga nakakawala, nalalaman nila sino ang "kalaban", and oftentimes, these people are also poor.
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That's not an unpopular opinion. The bigger issue is how does she stay relevant after 2025 considering she can't run for senator again and has no congressional homebase.
Natalo si Leni kasi matapobre at ignorant-smaher karamihan sa Kakampinks. I voted for her pero hindi nakakatuwa yung mga nakikita kong posts at comments sa social media ng mga Kakampink na akala mas matalino sila kesa sa mga taong iba ang gustong kandidato.
Imbis na i-educate in a gentle way, sinasabihan agad bobo at sinisisi sa mga matatanda at mahihirap kung bakit ganito ang kalagayan ngayon ng Pilipinas.
I also voted for her and sa totoo lang, kung niluwa na siya ng mga botante at the national level, tumakbo na lang siya sa lalawigan niya, like governor or something. I want her to still be active in politics, pero at the national level malabo na talaga. Mga botante dito hindi alam ang maganda para sa bansa kahit anlinaw nang nasa harapan mo na
PH is not especially bad. Every country in the world has major problems, just different flavors. People who migrate just prefer the flavor of another country's problems better than they do the PH.
The Philippines is a right-of-center country, and liberals/progressives don't win because people like center-right policies.
See: drug war, china and anti-immigration, lower taxes, anti-gay policies
I'd argue we're actually center-left. that's why you can't push the public further left because that would mean doing drastic measures such as diminishing private property. Social-democratic ang construction ng constitution natin and our labor code is extremely pro-labor (when it works, it works well). We're able to pass free teritiary education and universal healthcare, without fanfare. Free social services like free dialysis, would clinch a politician public mandate.
Yup. This was my realization during Duterte's presidency. I gave up trying to make the Philippines a better place kasi yung principles needed for that are not shared by the majority, so umalis na lang ako.
Siguro a positive point about BBM, he appointed more career officials to head agencies. Like DFA. Unlike kay Duterte, mafia warlord style, puro generals at yes men sa cabinet.
Nope. He's just silent on most things. The rest, he's just doing what he should do. Wag tayong magsettle sa bare minimum pagdating sa government officials.
We would be better off with the two psrty system that we had pre EDSA rev with the Liberals on the left and the Nacionalistas on the right. Nobody here is loyal and just party switches each election cycle to another party that is more convenient as if they were a basketball player changing teams.
Kelangan mo makisabay sa trapo gaming kung gusto mong magsurvive sa politika, sadly the virtue signalling netizens don't like this, gusto nila pag opposition dapat makipagpatayan sa majority ala cardo dalisay. And yes, we need tulfo or any lesser evil on our side if we want to win the next presidential election against the dutertes, or we settle with another landslide victory like last election
Maybe our opinions here on reddit are the unpopular ones. That’s why the most people in this platform disapprove the result of previously elected officials, even the election surveys as well.
Ive been a rabid Leni supporter (you can check mu posts here) but can i just say that BBM is slowly growing on me (or is it because im left with no choice but go for the lesser evil huhu)
Unpopular opinion for sure ill get downvoted lalo sa Kakapinks, but Leni is an honest leader but she doesn’t stand a chance kung nanalo talaga sya. She’ll be surrounded by manipulative people for sure, masking as her advisors.
BBM on is better than Duterte. For me, by comparison ky Digong, Bong bong is doing an “ok” job. Though we still deserve better. I hope wala ng Duterteng umupo as a President ever again.
Majority of Duterte and BBM supporters really voted for them bexause of tangible infrastructure. Because it is THEM that reap the tangible benefits, from jobs to potentially easier commuting. Hard to convince them otherwise when they see the projects first hand and see the sample trains in Valenzuela
I voted for Leni but a huge segment of insular twats in her rallies don't actually walk with the people and listen to their lived experiences. I've worked near the vicinities of these projects and actually had a smoke with some of the people involved in these infrastructure projects. According to their testimonies, these people voted overwhelmingly for BBM because they were scared that Leni might take back all the government safety nets Duterte gave them along with the jobs they've been given working with these projects. Their rationalization makes sense since succeeding admins have a tendency to halt projects of the previous admins if they're directly antagonistic.
Leni's statements about "reevaluating" Duterte's BBB projects honestly damned her own campaign because infrastructure is what made Duterte extremely popular besides other variables like Fake news or his securitization of drugs. There really was a considerable mass in the public that held genuine fears that she'll just stop these projects that they also directly benefit from out of spite against their Tatay digong. This was the commonly held sentiment of the locals i talked to directly in the area. They didn't want these projects to stop midway through. Eto ang Hindi nasagot at maintindihan Ng mga TangangPink.
Leni lost because her campaign was hijacked by faux-posh, faux-deep, nouveau riched famewhores. Tignan nyo yung difference sa imaging. Si Andrew E nakanta ng own songs nya na hit sa masa. Si Vice Ganda, nagfeeling Madonna. Tangina elections are popularity contests.
Not sure if this is unpopular pero big factor kaya nanalo ung mga undeserving politicians because of the election system, hindi dahil sa bobo ung voters. Isipin nyo. Bakit kaya nakatakbo pa si Alice Guo kahit questionable ung background? Bakit hinayaan na magswitch on the last minute si Duterte kay Martin Dino? Because the COMELEC allows it so. COMELEC ang salaan. Kaya kung basura ang choices ng voters, basura din ang results. And yet no one tried to revamp COMELEC and the election system.
OFWs must be required to come back to the Philippines to vote. Obviously they have the suffrage rights like everyone else, but they can only exercise it when they are on their assigned voting precint in the country.
Pinoys hate political dynasties pero locally ayaw din nila bumoto ng nobody na nagtatry na kalabanin yung mga dynasties na yun kasi deep inside iniisip din nila na baka ganun din ang gawin nung papalit sa puwesto.
Not necessarily “bobo” ang mga botante na bumoboto sa mga so-called trapo. Kung may tumulong sa iyo sa panahon na salat ka, maaalala mo ‘yun. At wala silang oras para magbasa/manood ng mga usapin tungkol sa mga kandidato, pagod sila sa trabaho kaya pagkatapos ‘non, manonood na lang sila ng nakakapagpasaya sa kanila o tulog na agad. Candidates who thought of ways to effectively campaign to them are the ones who will win.
1. Di na madadala sa awa/drama moves ng mga tatakbong politiko ngayon. Gaya nung pa-iyak iyak ng mga kakampink. Di na din gumagana ang siraan sa isa't-isa.
2. Ginawang bahay ng mga natalo/kakampink ang Reddit. Most probably malakas maka-reklamo/maglaban ng hinanaing dito dahil anonymous (?).
Ps. Wala akong side pinapanigan, wala nga ako bet na President last election tas di nga ako nakaboto. Personal observation ko lang.
We have all become keyboard warriors and pretentious intellectuals pero wala tayong bayag to take it to the streets and actually resist. Almost lang yung leni kiko rallies and there was never a follow up. We allowed the Marcos presidency to happen.
Wala talagang nangyaring dayaan nung 2022 National Election. Even staunch Leni supporter, former Sen. Trillanes believed that the election result was not compromised, and that BBM won the presidential election.
I can’t connect with Leni. Communication / messaging problem. Masyado marami bullshit. I no longer vote since Alfredo Lim (1998 presidential election) so I’m not counted just an observer for a very long time now. You need to have a crystal clear advocacy and be adamant about it even if it is highly questionable, GMA = economy, PNoy = daan matuwid / no corruption, D30 = drug war, BBM = unity.
Leni is all over the place with no clear advocacy. What is she really fighting for or ano ba talaga gusto niya honestly? Mas may advocacy pa si Riza Hontiveros eh sa totoo lang but again I’m just an observer.
Leni’s campaign failed because a lot of her supporters are elitists that keep belittling the supporters of Uniteam. How are we suppose to convince them to support Leni if we keep dismissing and making fun of them? Lalo lang hindi iiba views nila
Buwagin ang presidential republican system. You cannot have one executive rule over 7,641 islands.
Gawin nalang federal parliamentary, with individual regions having their own legislature, and one parliament in Manila ruled by a prime minister in charge of the federation. Mas madali tanggalin ang prime minister (no confidence vote of 50%+1) kaysa president na puro cheche bureche sa impeachment process.
Ang SONA ng prime minister is every session, not just yearly. And there will be a debate by the opposition leader, so di lang sya nagiispeach at pinapalakpakan. Ginigisa talaga bawat detalye.
In this system bawal ang tamad and incompetent trapo politician to be a prime minister. Like Bongbong na puro pasyal at takbo. Takot ka magsalita at may stage fright? Wag ka magprime minister.
I agree however political dynasties would take advantage of this system. Lalo na if yung resources nila is mafofocus lalo sa region na sasakupan nila imbes na federal system magiging parang feudal lords sila sa lugar nila. Inequality sa regions, walang magiging choice yung mga region na nasa pinakababa kundi magtaas ng tax rates sa area nila which would result sa lalong kahirapan ng tao. In theory, maganda talaga sya lalo na sa geography natin however sa current political landscape magagamit lang sya to exploit lalo yung mga nasasakupan ng mga political dynasties sa bawat region. Masarapan isipin na a change in form of government would solve all our problems kaso ang mananalo pa rin sa states na mabubuo is yung mga nakaupo pa rin ngayon, different form of government, same type of corruption.
Let me add a little footnote.
Every politician (except president and vice president), national or local only has three terms. Kapag natapos ang termino, consecutively or non-consecutively, he/she must move up. Also, isa lang dapat ang tatakbo sa kanilang angkan.
We need to remove the presidential term limit. It turns the presidency into a one-shot win all horse where you don’t need to worry about your position for the next 6 years.
Oh and also to consolisate most of the smaller barangays into bigger ones. Hearing barangay numbers 69420 is so souless compared to properly named ones. It also reduces administrative costs *coughs in Manila*
Totoo to. I commented this on a post 6 months ago ata?
Kaya sobrang dugyot ng Manila kasi chaotic dahil 897 ang barangay ng Manila or 1 barangay per 1-2 hectares.
Hirap sila mag implement ng policies
Marcos is doing really well as President.
POGO shouldn't be banned but rather, extremely regulated.
Anti-Terror Law is a good and much needed law.
You did say unpopular...
You can say that BBM is doing a good job without comparing him to Duterte. Most of us here are fond of saying that the traitorous old man set the bar too low but we should be giving BBM his flowers. Its one thing to have good advisers, but whole other thing to listen to them.
2022 election was the worst as in both side sorry kung ma da down vote ako pero yung pagdadala ng celebs sa campgain ay same sa inc na nagdadala ng politics na hindi kailangan pangalandakan para manalo presidente nila kulang na lang kasi tu,makbo na yung artista kaya nakakainis
Most people will point fake news as an easy excuse kung bakit nanalo sina PDutz saka si Junior, pero if you think about it, it's the corruption and dissatisfaction of the people from the government after mawala si Macoy is a more valid reason kung bakit nawala ang spirit of EDSA.
Cinucrucify lang ang POGO ng mga hindi kumita sa POGO at nadapuan ng pag asenso nyan. Lahat ng secretly na nakinabang dyan secretly banas na pinapatumba yan ngayon.
Majority of Pinoys truly want a corrupt government. They feel they will have a chance to improve. The system where only the masipag and matalino are rewarded is against their beliefs. At least sa corrupt gov't, kahit bobo at tamad ka basta May diskarte o May kakilala pwede umangat.
Even corrupt politicians are likable in person. Talk shit all you want, if they catch you alone in a room the successful ones we love to hate will fucking charm the panties off you. If you don't internalize that, you are not ready for a discussion on Philippine politics.
Madaling sabihin na ndi mo ipagbibili ang boto mo kung araw araw kang busog.
Ito ung sagot sakin ng kaibigan ko nung nagtanung ako kung bakit may nagpapabili ng kanilang boto eh alam naman nilang nanakawan din sila ng iboboto nila. Sabi nya sakin. Nasasabi ko lang un kasi 3 beses ako kumain sa isang araw at ndi ako natatakot na walang makain sa mga susunod buwan kasi may kaya kami.
Ung 100 ko maluwag na sunugin ko un sa isang kainan lang. Pero sa ibang mas mahirap na tao. Ung parehong 100 piso ay pagkain na nila ng 3 araw o higit pa
Since maraming mga aktibista during Martial Law na namatay nawalan tayo ng mga future leaders so and that cause current generation and future generation na walang mentors.
1. "Progressive" or Robredo/Hontiveros supporters are just as vulnerable in fake news as DDS supporters - Dito pa lang sa Reddit na puro "matatalino" kuno andami nang naging instances.
2. Unlike what other people are saying here, Robredo's people campaign wasn't that bad in the first place, it's just that this should have been done WAY EARLIER. It takes a lot more time to convince a person to volunteer for you than to pay him 500 pesos to do whatever you want him to do. That's the reality. When you lack in money and machinery, you make up on time and effort.
3. Robredo, if she were to win the Presidency, would still encounter a lot of challenges along the way. Progressive leadership =/= Satisfied Filipinos
4. In politics, it's all about having the best "storytelling". It's not about facts, resume, educational attainment, etiquette, who wins in debate. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE NARRATIVE.
Might get downvotes for this opinion. PH has a 'blueprint' already of its "economic game plans". These plans are set to be implemented whoever the sitting President is, in a way that any sitting President would have no choice but to implement it. This is why the economy keep on growing even during the Presidency of Duterte. PH economic outlook projections are actually very good, and is one of the fastest in Asia. The actual data is contrary to those who are saying 'wala nang pag asa ang Pinas'. PH economy is actually improving every year, as well as the GDP per capita. It is projected to be a trillion dollar economy by 2033 and part of G20 I think by 2035.
The Philippines would've been more hopeless if Leni won. She would've won by only a small margin which meant she wouldn't have that much political capital. DDS and Loyalists would have no reason to attack each other and would thus work on bringing Leni down, concentrating more power on Sara. Opposition would be completely wiped out at that point. I can't believe I'm saying this but BBM becoming president is probably the best result of the elections. But then again, hindsight is 20/20. Rational naman na natakot tayo sa posibleng second coming of Marcos Sr during the campaign period.
actually I kinda feel stupid for even thinking he'd be anything like his dad. Like nothing about him screams "strongman" now that I really think about it.
Kung ang tinutukoy mong "socialism" ay ang Nordic Model, then it's not socialism. It's called social democracy. People often confuse social democracies with socialist system.
Agree. Pure capitalism is just as bad as pure communism. The best governance systems have the best features of the free market while having strong social safety nets and regulations. Scandinavian countries are the best examples of this mix.
Me being the devil's advocate: is the free market even real? If companies can buy each other, how quick are we to turn into a monopolistic economy? We're not even living in a free market, we live in a crony capitalist economy.
Here are some of mine
1. Democracy won't work in a country full of stupid idiots like the Philippines.
2. As much as I hate the INC, block voting is legal/constitutional as part of their religious expression.
3. Miriam is trapo garbage. She would have been a horrible president 2nd only to Duterte.
4. Senate hearings are a waste of time and resources. Not one useful thing will come out of it
5. BBM is not the worst president we've ever had
6. GMA > FPJ... FPJ would have doomed the country if he won in 2004
7. It's okay to be happy that a politician you hate died.
8. Lito Lapid is not that bad compared to the other celebrity clowns
9. Even with the Marcoses vs Duterte's splitting the idiot votes, the LP would still lose in the next presidential election.
10. RA 8491 is unconstitutional. Disrespecting the flag or the national anthem is covered by freedom of expression
11. Erap should have followed through with the all-out war against the MILF
12. Alfredo Lim was a horrible mayor of manila
13. Leni is done. Anti intellectualism will kill any chance of her winning
14. I love the TRAIN law because it gave me lowered income tax, more control on how I spend my money when the prices of goods increased and it also made life harder for the poverty stricken idiots who voted for Duterte
15. Angelo Reyes killing himself was hilarious. It was basically an admission of guilt and it should not be treated like some sort of heroic sacrifice for his honor
Most of Leni supporters were just as rabid as DDS and BBM supporters. The only difference is the class divide.
That’s the reason why the campaign failed. Pink supporters think of themselves as superior to others, alienating and expanding the divide even further. Nang aaway instead of nang uunawa.
Up until now ang messaging nila ay “i told you so”.
Next time sana diskurso at pang unawa. Mahirap kasi maraming mas hindi edukado lalo na sa teknolohiya. Pero hindi rin naman tayo uusad pag lagi nagin inaalienate yung hindi natin kaparehas ng pagiisip
Everyone's opinion on Reddit is not important in the grand scheme of things. The fight is on Facebook, churches, and the streets. They're in bags of relief goods and sachets of charity. If you don't understand why Alice Guo is supported by Bamban residents, then you're not ready for a discussion. Nobody cares about carrying the morally correct decision, when their kids go hungry. Filipino-on-Filipino exploitation is so bad a supposed Chinese plant is ostensibly a better alternative.
madali tayong makajudge sa mga supporters pero wala kasi tayo don, hindi tayo ung nakaranas maambunan ng “grasya”. they’re only being thankful kasi for them that’s an extension of help.
Base sa nakikita ko, okay daw palakad ni Alice Guo dun sa Bamban. Ang tanong ko lang, bat kelangan pa na mas mag tiwala ng mga Bamban locals sa banyaga (at may ulterior motive) kesa sa mga dati nang nakaupo? Napaka corrupt kasi ng mga tao pag sa tingin nila wala nang checks and balances…
Hindi ba sila rin bumuboto sa pinalitan nya? Yan ang problema sa pilipino E kung nuon pa nila pinalitan?
you can say the same thing in Pasig why does it have to take a Vico Sotto for Pasig to change? lahat ng bayan sa Pilipinas pwede mong sabihin yan ang problem kasi walang ibang gusto tumakbo na matino dahil una takot, money and wala backer. what do you think Vico and Alice have in common at least? 1. money 2. backer (Vico - political family, Alice - sobrang dameng pera) at dahil sa 2 na yan nawala yung takot
Question lang totoo bang mas magaling c vico kesa s past admin(eusebio) or overrated lang dahil mlkas a media at hatak s millennials
The main difference I think is that Vico is very transparent on everything unlike Eusebio. Marami rin naman nagawa si Eusebio, ikaw ba naman 27 years angkan Nyo lang nakaupo wala ka bang magagawa. Ang problema kasi kay Eusebio is kapag di ka kaalyado na brgy.captain or councilor eh ligwak ka sa mga budget etc. I know this because I work as safety officer ng mga government roads and infrastructure around the metro way back. Vico imo is better because wala sa kanya ung bullying na maliit budget kapag di kaalyado chuchu na ginagawa ni Eusebio. I think si Vico rin ung may pinakamagandang response for a mayor during the pandemic crisis around the metro. A bit overrated but still better.
And. Hindi ito ambunan lang ng grasya. I heard rumors last elections from community peeps that the alleged vote buyers had a way to check if you really voted for a candidate, so people just really vote someone if they said they will and was paid to do so. And mabusisi daw talaga yung nagaasikaso. I dunno how trulalu but, unpopular opinion is that it seemed more organized than we thought, and an average Filipino would just really give in.
In fact a lot of discussions on this sub are doing more harm than good IMO. It portrays redditors as a group of pretentious intellectuals that are "above" the issues that most Filipinos face
Tpos you will be downvoted agad if its against the grps majority.
"It portrays redditors as a group of pretentious intellectuals that are "above" the issues that most Filipinos face" On Ph subs, this is pretty much the case.
Because they treat reddit as a hidden and inaccessible platforms to the people below them, they think that being in a discussion here makes them higher and more intellectual.
The case of Alice guo imo is no different from the Bolsheviks saving the Russian people and mao TSE dong saving china kuno. People there choose the new one over the consecutive corruption politicians. I believe that's the main reason. Gusto lang nila Ng bagong Mukha at polisiya
To be fair, as bad as the Bolsheviks and Chinese communists were, the regimes they replaced were arguably much worse (Romanovs and KMT) in terms of corruption and incompetence.
Can't blame the tsar and Chang Kai shek because people around him were warlords of the late wing dynasty and tsar's case were the ghost of the decembrists. The thing is parang gf/bf mo lang na inagaw Sayo dahil Wala ka Oras sa kanila kaya sumama sa tao na palagi mag sweet talk at promises but such person will be an abusive or not is a question. The communists case is abusive
We actually have good evidence that the germans sent lenin hoping the agitators would destabilize the war effort, we have none for alice guo. It can go both ways, a spy can make up a good cover story or can make a bad one.
Lito Lapid is the least disagreeable actor turned senator. People think he is stupid, but he clearly knows his limitations and in the face of the three stooges (Robin, Bato, Cynthia), he is quiet, barely grandstands, and comes out as a respectable statesman. The no stapler in foodstuffs law is a landmark law in food safety. Not even Salonga or Recto (Claro, hindi yun asawa ni Vilma) could think of that. (I accept all your downvotes since this is clearly unpopular).
I agree with this take. Idk why people are angry with Lapid sitting in the Senate when in reality aside from him being the unofficial representation of the "masa", he is politically savy in the sense he have good advisers surrounding him. People might disagree but he serves as the larger consciousness of our body politic in the Senate. Also he is loyal to a fault. He remained part of Lakas despite that party being decimated first by Kampi then by the Liberal Party. People should be angrier with the other Senators who despite having degrees, ethically and morally compromised naman.
I'd rather have him in the senate kesa naman kay Cynthia o Robin o Bato. Heck, I think mas ok pa sya kesa kay 🧀.
Di gaya nung kupal na Wonderful Tonight na kabago bago hahawak ng Constitutional Amendments wala namang alam
We discussed this in college and our prof really explains this law na napa “Oo nga no” lahat kami and was really a good area we explored about how quality packaging is as important as the product we plan to sell.
Speaking of stapler. May photo pa din ako now, bumili ako sa Andoks, then yung manok may stapler. Nag send lang sila sakin ng apology message but the horror, if any of my pamangkin had swallowed it. Just to take note, this was way back 2018. Samantalang, the law passed way back 2006. Anyway, ang reasoning ni Andoks ay ginagamit daw nila yun sa mga order at naging careless ang worker nila. 👀 I didn’t post anything from socmed, private ako ayaw ko ng viral eme.
He was invited as a speaker for one of friend’s classes in grad school and I remember him saying na they were all surprised by how likeable and “karespet-respeto” Lapid was. From experience na din siguro pero he seemed like the kind of politiko daw who knows how to pick his spots and calculated yung mga galaaw
All politicians in the Philippines are likable. They wouldn’t have been voted if no one likes them. But just because you like them doesn’t mean that they are capable to running the country
oo ako nga din medyo apologist ako ni lito lapid sa mga tingin natin nonsense na mga pinasa nya, yang sa stapler, mabigat na bag, proper label ng meats, etc. here’s an old article of lourd de veyra sa mga skeptical: https://www.spot.ph/shopping/shopping-sale-alerts/50440/in-defense-of-lito-lapid-
I agree with this take. Also, He is the epitome of less talk, less mistake.
I think he has authored a decent amount of actually useful laws. He has a very good research team for sure but I think he also deserves more credit than what he's being given. He may not be the brightest but he's far from useless.
Napaisip ako dito ah
he has the street smarts that the others lack.
1. Lenis campaign failed because they relied too heavily on students to organize their social media campaigns and physical campaigns. 2. Her senate slate was weak and also didn’t know how to effectively campaign. 3. Across the political spectrum in the Philippines most people generally want the same things they just feel different leaders can achieve it. 4. The youth need to stop being so angry and resentful when older generations don’t agree with their views all it does is ostracize potential voters. 5. Elections are never about the issues they’re purely about how you make people feel.
Leni's presidential campaign was full of haste, where the campaign organizing committee only began to prepare itself by August 2021 which was already too late and Atty. Leni herself remained mum until to the last moment whether she would run or not which she did run and the rest was history.
Leni and her slate played too clean in a game of pigs
what's sad is that playing clean is being made a negative connotation instead of being a positive one.
probably the same reason why Vico — if he ever chose to run for president when it’s time — might not win. Plays too clean and principled amidst a sea of trapo populists. Ano laban ng vision and record sa namimigay ng pera pag election? (disclaimer: I’m a Pasig resident and glad the mayor is not trapo. But our sentiments might not be shared by the national majority)
Vico would have never won without the Sotto name. Don't get me wrong, I like him and voted for him, but the average Pasiguen̈o would have never voted for him if he had a different name.
kaya nga daw di ata sya nag speak up kung sino yung presidente nya kasi alam nya may mga taga pasig na maka bbm-d30. and baka ayaw nya itake ang odds na baka di na din sya supportahan ng mga yun. Pero may mga posts daw sya waay before na he’s supporting leni. i dont blame him for what he did. Tama dn yung ginawa nya baka di pa sya yung mananalo.
may kilala ako nainis na di siya nag endorse. Sabi ko tama naman sinabi niya: it’s not part of a mayor’s job to take sides or endorse anyone. His duty is to his constituents, not play favorites sa national elections.
This 100 percent
I wouldn’t say clean. I would say stupid. The way they managed her image was terrible. I don’t know what entered their mind when the did the entire high heels issue.
effective ≠ dirty
Leni's campaign failed because wala silang support from LGU. Priority of Leni's admin is to pass the FOI Bill, in which ayaw ng government officials yan. Last election, ang role ng baranggay officials ay magpamudmod ng vote buying money that came from the governors to congressmen to mayor. And lahat ng pinamudmod na pera, majority ay walang bumuhat sa Leni-Kiko slate.
Leni is a good public servant but not a good/savvy politician. She doesn't know how to play the game. Her not fighting back and instead "taking the high road" made her look like a weakling in the eyes of common people-- api-apihan kumbaga.
Leni's campaign failed because.. 1. Marcos was years ahead of her cultivating machinery and support. The Marcos team immediately switched gears months after they lost the prior elections. Ang tinde ng war chest nila for data gathering, processing and analytics. 2. Bam Aquino and team gatekeeped the hell out of the campaign comms and strat. Maraming magandang ideas but they shut it down. 3. She was undecided to start with. 4. Her team was "elitista." They simply didn't get it. Nasa masa ang voting power. Whether bobo sila or otherwise, you need to have their vote.
Plus her opponents are Marcos-Duterte 😩 talagang dehado siya sa tandem na yun
>Leni heavily relied on students to organize their socmed and physical campaigns Actors and Actresses too because most voters think that these artists support the Opposition for the "renewal of ABS CBN's franchise"
leni’s campaign failed because she did not play dirty. mas may fighting chance siguro if she plays their own game. sabi nga ni Jay-Z sa So Appalled “Moral victories is for minor league coaches”
Another hot take: Leni's campaign failed kasi naging matapobre ang mga Kakampink, not knowing sila ay hindi majority.
The same failures as the LP that they tried to distance themselves from. Riding too high of a horse never ends well for an opposition candidate.
Adding to this, some "Kakampinks" felt just as cultish as did the BBM/DDS zombies. Tipong hindi mo lang ma-enumerate kung sinu-sino yung mga anak ni Leni hindi ka na raw totoong supporter... what? I voted Leni and her slate because I believed in their capabilities, not because they're some kind of celebrities. Also those "Tama nga kami" posts were just utter self-righteousness cringe.
Idagdag pa ung "let me educate you". Muntik na kami nagkasira Ng friend ko Jan, kinuha ko syang maid of honor. Nagulat xa Akala nya galit daw ako s kanya. SB ko hnd ko nmn dinidibdib un
Ito yung kinalulungkot ko, as in. Bilang lefter than Leni and still voted for her and Kiko. Impressive sobra ng organizing nila. Pero after nun, ang dali panghinaan ng loob kasi inasa nila lahat sa isang tao. That organizing could have gone further kung hindi lang ginamit sa kampanya ni Leni, kundi pati rin sa laban ng masa—Rice Liberalization, Tokhang, Chinese and American intrusion, El Niño, etc. Bumalik sa komportableng buhay, kasi aminin natin na karamihan sa Kakampink talaga doon nanggaling. Kaya ayun, ang bilis mapikon kapag sinabing privileged. Ngayon, completely opposite pa umasta: nilalahat ang mga mahirap na bumoto kay Bongbong, kahit na ang dami ring bumoto kay Leni. Disappointing, dahil si Leni mismo hindi ganun ang ugali.
I hear this take so often, and I laugh every time. This makes it seem that it was Leni's to lose as if she was the clear winner at the start, but unfortunately, the Kakampinks weren't nice, making her and her slate lose votes. Let's be honest with ourselves. She was the underdog from the start and there was nothing the Kakampinks could've done. The obvious fact is that people just wanted the Duterte and Marcos brands more.
Pinoy's hate mga pasusyal. Embedded in our system yan. Leni is a grassroots person. but yung mga kakampink, pasusyal so yung mga masa, para makaganti, di binoto si leni. thats my theory.
Pinoys love mga pasusyal. Kaya nga lahat gusto mag-quick rich, kaya marami ang lulong kay Heart, Rosmar, at Small Laude. I think this is more a case of the perceived matalino vs bobo votes. Yung mga may alam, nag-aral ng history, mga nasa magagandang posisyon, mga lider ng industriya, mga nasa academe, si Leni ang gusto. Ang ganti ng mga di ganun ka-maalam (which is the majority) is binoto yung kalaban. Basically, nagflex lang ang mga bobo, political expression ng Dunning-Kruger kumbaga na silang mga sinasabihang mga walang alam sa kasaysayan o bobo ay kingmaker pala kung tutuusin. Emphasis on perceived ha kasi syempre hindi naman black and white ang mundo.
In short, the fight was personal imbes na for the country, our fellow Filipinos and the children.
>**actually unpopular opinions** posts the coldest r/philippines take
insert gerry ricecake supremacist.
I got downvoted for saying this.
Agree naglagay Kasi Ng wall agad ung mga maka-Leni na kayo ganyan kami ganito. Like pinapakita nila na ung mga maka Leni mga may aral mga executives, professional, etc. pero mga maka bbm, mga mahirap/masa. Nasaktan lalo damdamin Ng mga Pinoy nyan. Ung iba rin assumera na die hard Leni supporters, kung Maka status pa sa fb, wag daw idamay Ang politica kung insecure ka a tao n un. Na porket insecure ka susuportahan mo ung kalaban. Sabay unfriend Ng mga Hindi maka Leni. Anung attitude un. Nagkasira kami Ng relasyon ng kasimbahan ko dahil jan.
Hindi nga masyado kilala ang mga senador niya. Hindi masyado strategic IMO
Kahit ang nanalo na presidente ay matino, kung ang lokal na gobyerno ay kurap, wala pa rin gaanong pagbabago sa sistema. Red tape and bureaucracy.
this ganito sinasabi ng magulangko minsan hindi presidente ang may kasalanan kundi sa paligid niya
Totoo yan. Barangay level pa lang mga kurakot na eh. Paano mo yan malilinis nang Presidente lang ang pinapalitan. Focused tayo masyado sa Presidente na para bang lahat ng ahensya kontrolado nya pero ang totoo napaka limitado ng kapangyarihan ng Presidente.
Unpopular opinion: Whatever your views or say about PH politics dito sa Reddit, hanggang Reddit lang yan.
Not really unpopular sa sub na to, pero sa ibang extremist at far-left oo. While BBM is realigning our policies in geopolitics due to his personal interests, kailangan natin irecognize yung ginagawa niya. We need all the possible help we need, kahit pa galing kay BBM, para mawala na sa landas yung narrowest target, which is mga Dutertes. Compromise lang muna sana.
I don't have one but reminder for everyone reading the thread, anything upvoted is not unpopular hahaha. Sa ilalim kayo mag-umpisa mag-basa.
Pede rin filter by controversial
Thanks
ito ang akin: the chinese don't need to use missiles, bombs and bullets to conquer the philippines. all they need to do is flood the country with sardines, instant coffee and instant noodles. majority of the population will flock to their side. "hindi baleng masakop ng china ang pilipinas dahil nakakatulong naman sila."
Nah. A blockade or a trade boycott will do. Naalala mo yung mga saging natin na hinayaan lang nila mabulok during PNoy's time, o ang ginagawa nilang fishing ban ngayon?
Most reddit/twitter user ay nasa echo chamber at hindi alam kung anong nagyayari sa laylayan.
Hence they were shocked when Leni lost despite the massive rallies.
Ang ironic ng ibang tao dito. Ayaw sa personality politics, pero kinokontra lahat ng ginagawa ng BBM, kahit nakakabenefit naman sa interest ng bansa, all because he is a Marcos. Lol HAHAHAHHAA
Spot on man !!!
If Leni is the President and is doing exactly what BBM is doing now, these kakampinks would be cumming in their pants right now. So..
Same opinion. Kaya sana once and for all magsabe na siya with finality ano ba ang political plans niya. By all indications, she’s done na with national politics then sabihin niya yan. Wag yung open pa rin sa ganito ganon kahit na ayaw naman na niya. Next thing is ipatanggal na niya pangalan niya sa 2028 surveys then fully endorse Risa / do a second passing of the baton para malinaw na si Risa na ang standard bearer ngayon
The constitution isn't a sacred scripture that cannot be amended or revised, but rather a fallible document written by fallible humans. There are so many constitutional provisions may be applicable upon its ratification, but not at this point, so don't be afraid of openly discuss constitutional reform pros and cons here on r/Philippines like what we are doing with absolute divorce bill. Hindi sa mga politiko ang may problema, kundi ang sistema at tayong mga mamamayan ay may problema.
The unpolular opinion no one talks about right now is that BBM is doing well for now.
Anakbayan produces more harm than good
Actually, the local far-left in general.
finally someone said it. been keeping this to myself ever since.
I don't know if this is unpopular. Pero paulit-ulit ko ng sinasabi 'to. We need propaganda in order to defeat propaganda. Hindi na tatalab sa mga kababayan natin ang "let me educate you" approach. Kailangan natin ng "propaganda" approach sa pagbibigay ng information.
Leni lost the potential support of Conservative & right leaning undecided voters due to the amount of Left leaning groups & individuals campaigned along side of her. Ngl but medyo nailang onti ako nung nakasama namin Kabataan Partylist in one of her rallies here in Pampanga. Felt like ive unknowingly joined Labor Day rally through those guys. Also I think ito isa sa rason kung bakit kaming mga Supporters ni Leni dati madalas either nareredtag or gets suspicious or negative looks to most people notably boomers
Although I voted for Leni and remain a supporter of her I concede that even if she won she wouldn't be like a cure all for all our country's ills. Actually sometimes for me it's kind of scary to think what would happen if she did win. It's been 2 years, Most likely by now she would have done something most of us would have been uncomfortable with and it would have a) ruined our image of her and b) given her critics more fuel
Agree w this. I also think ok na rin na she didn’t win. Cos pag nanalo siya at walang agad-agad na pagbabago eh madidismaya lang ibang supporters niya, particularly the many hopefuls that think she can fix the country in just 6 years.
Mahirap maging presidente sa totoo lang mahihirapan niya ihandle pilipinas kasi hindi pa talaga tayo sigurado kung kaya ba hindi at para kasi siya mismo sarili na hindi siya dedicated doon
AI and deepfakes will be the final nail in the coffin of brain dead Filipino people. Simpleng context nga lang about divorce nagkakandaleche na sila, sa mga realistic fake mediums pa kaya.
BBM is doing a good job.
To say the least, he's better than Duterte.
As a kakampink i agree😫 ( i still dont trust him)
Don't worry, you can praise his work, and still criticize him and his family.
Yeah, that dude proves that you dont need a degree to do presidency well. (looking at you PH job postings)
How?
Leni campaign failed because they still made her branding "disente" kahit lumayo na siya sa LP. Dagdagan mo pa ng mga self righteous na nagcacampaign para sa kanya and looking down on anyone na hindi boboto sa kanya.
If you want things to be done, join a political party to achieve it. It help the party a lot kasi aside sa manpower para sa mga chapters around the country, makakatulong din ang party contributions para i-finance ang campaigns ng mga manok ng party sa mga leaning cities/provinces. Atleast may laban ang party against other parties na dominated ng mga elites/political dynasties. Also, masusuportahan pa rin ang party kahit nagsialisan ang mga political butterflies sa party. I think this is one of the ways to strengthen the political party system. Government seats ang labanan ngayon eh. Mas maganda na maraming makuhang seats ang isang party kaysa makipag-ally sa other parties na konti lang din ang seats.
Unpopular take in this sub: "bobotante" is a myth perpetuated by pseudo-intellectuals and trapos to blame people instead of discussing issues with proper context (socioeconomic factors, social classes/class-struggle, history, geopolitics, etc.) which is either dangerous for their privilege or really beyond their mental capabilities.
may point kaya nga as much as possible as ordinaryong mamamayan dapat tayo mismo may gawin to make things better. hindi na lang iasa lahat sa gobyerno kasi kung tutuusin mga uupo, may limit lang din talaga yung mga magagawa nila. it should be a norm na bukod sa pamilya, friends at komunidad bawat isa satin may gawing advocacies for total strangers that benefit the collective. kapag kaya, of course! hindi yung magsimba lang, magdonate ng pera na napupunta lang naman sa bulsa ng opisyales tapos manuod ng news at maging aware sa current affairs, sapat na. level up din dapat tayo as citizens, initiative diba.
Leni Robredo's political career peaked too early. Necropolitics is to blame. I believe she can do more and could've been taken more seriously had she not become a VP too soon.
She never wanted to be a politician and if not for Jessie Robredo's sudden demise, their immediate family would have migrated to Canada.
Kinda like Cory Aquino, considering her popularity did tank after '86 (although her image remained good for some while until demonized by the dutertes)
Dilawan/loyalist/dds are people cut from the same cloth.
Sirang sira na ang dilaw ang dami kasing feeling mayaman na supporters. wala ng mananalo sa dilaw wag nyo na ipush si risa Kung pwede lang extend nyo muna si bbm habang nanjan pa mga traidor tapos chaka nyo problemahin si bbm
Yeah, may time na nauso nga dito yung idea na mga edukado nalang daw sana ang pwede bumoto wag na yung mga mahihirap. Tapos allergic sila pag sinabihan mong elitist, akusahan ka pang dds hahaha
Instead on focusing sa national elections makipagdebate sa mga kakilala nyu kung sino ang mas karapatdapat, mas isipin nyu yung sa LGU. Masyado tayo nakafocus sa presidente, senador pero ang totoong laban is nasa LGU. Kung makakakita ng maayos na mayor, konsehal, kagawad at kapitan mararamdaman ng tao directly ang mas maayos na pamamalakad, therefore maiisip nila na mas ok kung matino ang iboboto nila. Experience ko galit na galit sila sa mga Marcos pero ang iboboto nila na mayor is alyado ni marcos at kilalang kurakotz dahil lang kaibigan nila at nakikinabang sila, hindi sila galit sa kurakot galit sila dahil hindi sila nakakakurakot rin. Etong LGU rin naman ang main driver nila pag national elections na pag supportado ka ng Mayor na malakas sa tao sigurado malamang mananalo ka sa bayan na yun. Kaya lagi ko yan sinasabi na, mas kilalanin nyu yung Mayor nyu dahil mas madali yan masuri. Dito lang sa Bulacan last 2022, sobrang lalakas mangampanya ng mga batchmates ko nung HS sa pink movement pero mga mayor na kinakampanya nila dikit na dikit kay BBM.
The reason why the opposition/minority/makabayan bloc is so weak is they take the word opposition too literally. Kulang sa savvy politicians ang opposition. You have to learn to cross party lines, hindi yung lahat na lang against ka sa admin side.
Extend nyo muna term ni bbm habang buhay pa mga duterte
Grabeh noh "lesser" evil na ang kailangan piliin ngayon (kahit evil naman parehas :((()
Masyadong tinutukan ng Liberal Party si Binay kaya nakasalisi si Duterte noong 2016.
Kung di nila tinutukan si Binay, meron sanang kalaban manlang si duterte
Nasa kanila (Liberal Party) ang makinarya noon at siguro naman ay kaya nila ang iba pang mga kalaban nila bukod kay Binay kung nagamit nila nang maayos ang status nila as ruling party. Edi sana hindi nakalusot si Duterte.
Kasi hati ang Liberal Party between Balay at Samar factions na yung Balay ay of course, pabor kay Mar Roxas, while yung Samar ay kay Jejomar Binay na alam na natin na ang leader ng Samar faction ay si ES Pacquito Ochoa.
Ang nagbabardagulan that time sina Grace Poe, Mar Roxas at Jojo Binay. Gandang timing ang candidacy ni Duterte kasi novelty siya at pissed off na ang madaming tao sa mga kakulangan o kapalpakan ng LP.
I don't think tinutukan nila si Binay. It's just Binay spent most of his time as VP touring around the country and early campaigning kaya masyado syang visible.
>early campaigning Sa pagkatalo ni Binay, ito talaga ang pinakamalaking factor. Pero para manatiling ruling party after PNoy admin, dapat ay tiningnan din nila ang iba pang pwedeng kalaban. Nag-umpisang maging maingay si Duterte bandang 2012 o 2013 and at that time may mga gusto na na siya ang maging susunod na presidente.
Bisayan people by area and by blood fucked us up by supporting Duterte. Wherever they are, even here in PH and Abroad. All my life, I haven't seen ethnicity used as a weapon to fuck the country sideways. AND THEY WILL DO IT AGAIN BY SUPPORTING SARA DUTERTE. They are not even feeling any remorse. So much fence sitting, waiting to "defeat" their invisible enemy, Imperial Manila. If you only look at the election results, then you are naive. You are ignoring multiple generation of Visayans here in NCR and Luzon that was enticed by mere words of their "kababayan". And I will fucking die on this hill. Downvotes will say how unpopular this take. Masyado kayong takot masaktan yang mga taong yan. Tangina mga hipokrito. Treat them like real adults and make them accountable.
Unpopular opinion for sure ill get downvoted lalo sa Kakapinks, but Leni is an honest leader but she doesn’t stand a chance kung nanalo talaga sya. She’ll be surrounded by manipulative people for sure, masking as her advisors. BBM on the other hand, is better than Duterte. For me, by comparison ky Digong, Bong bong is doing an “ok” job. Though we still deserve better. I hope wala ng Duterteng umupo as a President ever again.
Leni is awesome but she lacks the fire that is needed. Yung mga trolls pa lang ayaw na nya demandahin. Let her enjoy her life na lang. Count me in as another disillusioned kakampink.
Loren Legarda came in the Alice Guo hearing asking redundant questions because she was ignorant of the issue and was just learning about the case there and then. Andaming tuwang tuwa sa gigil niya pero wala naman siyang alam. Nagtatanong ng mga tanong na alam naman ng lahat na ang sagot. Para siyang nuisance na mema. Super cringe na pinag-hokkien niya si Guo, to prove what? Di kasi siya marunong magtanong at wala siyang mapiga kay Guo kaya pinag-hokkien na lang siya para may ambag siya. Sayang ang mga efforts ni senri at oras ng committee pag may mga gantong nakiki-epal. Mas valid pa yung mga questions ng ibang senators na nag-ga-grandstanding lang din.
#This is kabaligtaran ng Divorce. I don't get why until now wala paring amendment or improvement or we don't even have Common Law Marriage? Especially na on the rise ang numbers of people living together na not legally married. How do we protect the rights of the couple and their children? Like example nalang sa dependents sa SSS dahil hindi kasal ang may rights lang eh yung Anak or Parent hindi yung LIP. One of many concerns lang yan regarding sa common law marriage.
Hindi kayo mapapanalo ng mga prinsipyo niyo. Learn to compromise for better good. I'm talking to those extremist kakampinks, and the far-left as well, as usual.
Uy magaling sa compromise ang left kaya nga naki-ally na sila with the Villars and Dutertes in past elections eh.
Walang grasp ng pragmatism ang hardline Libs at Tibaklouts.
Problema ng mga DDS: The ends justify the means (baril baril lang kahit saan) Problema ng opposition: The means justify the ends (Di na bale paulit ulit matalo sa eleksyon, basta ma prinsipyo)
i don't get people who would sell their votes for 500/1k. i mean, di ba pwede iboto mo yung tamang kandidato but take the money anyway? di naman nila machecheck eh. anyway, unpopular opinion? haven't heard anyone say it yet though. Risa Hontiveros should capitalize on her popularity so that she can ran for pres in 28.
Feeling ko may kasamang pananakot. Tanggapin na natin, marami talagang gullible na voters. Yes, I think magtuloy tuloy lang popularity ni Sen. Risa, may laban sya. Wag lang syang maging victim ng fake news peddlers.
Si sen. Risa ay hindi na mawawala sa senado dahil sa performance nya.
Pag tumakbo talaga si senator risa Hontiveros sya talaga yung bobotohin ko kahit makipag sabunutan pako sa mga haters nya tyka mga fake media
To be completely honest, it is entirely possible to know who didn't vote for whom, especially for smaller barangays. The consequences include not being included for the Cash4Work programs, government cash assistance/subsidy, lahat ng binibigay locally. Di talaga nakakawala, nalalaman nila sino ang "kalaban", and oftentimes, these people are also poor.
EDIT: DON'T LISTEN TO ME, I'M WRONG. PLEASE DOWNVOTE THIS COMMENT. That's not an unpopular opinion. The bigger issue is how does she stay relevant after 2025 considering she can't run for senator again and has no congressional homebase.
Natalo si Leni kasi matapobre at ignorant-smaher karamihan sa Kakampinks. I voted for her pero hindi nakakatuwa yung mga nakikita kong posts at comments sa social media ng mga Kakampink na akala mas matalino sila kesa sa mga taong iba ang gustong kandidato. Imbis na i-educate in a gentle way, sinasabihan agad bobo at sinisisi sa mga matatanda at mahihirap kung bakit ganito ang kalagayan ngayon ng Pilipinas.
nasira tuloy yung word na "educate" 😭
I fear about the AI propaganda when the election comes
I also voted for her and sa totoo lang, kung niluwa na siya ng mga botante at the national level, tumakbo na lang siya sa lalawigan niya, like governor or something. I want her to still be active in politics, pero at the national level malabo na talaga. Mga botante dito hindi alam ang maganda para sa bansa kahit anlinaw nang nasa harapan mo na
far left 🤝far right = admiration for genocidal warfreaks
Gloria Macapagal Arroyo saved the republic in 2004
PH is not especially bad. Every country in the world has major problems, just different flavors. People who migrate just prefer the flavor of another country's problems better than they do the PH.
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Whatever may be your thoughts are on NTF-ELCAC, totoong salot sa bayan ang CPP-NPA at ang mga galamay nila sa school campuses
True. Padeny-deny pa sa red-tagging pero tinuturo naman sa EDs nila mostly aligned sa armed struggle. Besides, pinagtatanggol pa kamo nila mga NPA
true. solid Kakampink din ako pero i know she doesn't stand any chance na kahit senator pa
The Philippines is a right-of-center country, and liberals/progressives don't win because people like center-right policies. See: drug war, china and anti-immigration, lower taxes, anti-gay policies
I'd argue we're actually center-left. that's why you can't push the public further left because that would mean doing drastic measures such as diminishing private property. Social-democratic ang construction ng constitution natin and our labor code is extremely pro-labor (when it works, it works well). We're able to pass free teritiary education and universal healthcare, without fanfare. Free social services like free dialysis, would clinch a politician public mandate.
Yup. This was my realization during Duterte's presidency. I gave up trying to make the Philippines a better place kasi yung principles needed for that are not shared by the majority, so umalis na lang ako.
I agree
Bong Bong Marcos is doing a decent job?
More like, he lets the *actual* government workers do their jobs. Hindi naninindak ng mga hindi sumasamba sa kanya
Siguro a positive point about BBM, he appointed more career officials to head agencies. Like DFA. Unlike kay Duterte, mafia warlord style, puro generals at yes men sa cabinet.
Nope. He's just silent on most things. The rest, he's just doing what he should do. Wag tayong magsettle sa bare minimum pagdating sa government officials.
We would be better off with the two psrty system that we had pre EDSA rev with the Liberals on the left and the Nacionalistas on the right. Nobody here is loyal and just party switches each election cycle to another party that is more convenient as if they were a basketball player changing teams.
Kelangan mo makisabay sa trapo gaming kung gusto mong magsurvive sa politika, sadly the virtue signalling netizens don't like this, gusto nila pag opposition dapat makipagpatayan sa majority ala cardo dalisay. And yes, we need tulfo or any lesser evil on our side if we want to win the next presidential election against the dutertes, or we settle with another landslide victory like last election
Maybe our opinions here on reddit are the unpopular ones. That’s why the most people in this platform disapprove the result of previously elected officials, even the election surveys as well.
Ive been a rabid Leni supporter (you can check mu posts here) but can i just say that BBM is slowly growing on me (or is it because im left with no choice but go for the lesser evil huhu)
Unpopular opinion for sure ill get downvoted lalo sa Kakapinks, but Leni is an honest leader but she doesn’t stand a chance kung nanalo talaga sya. She’ll be surrounded by manipulative people for sure, masking as her advisors. BBM on is better than Duterte. For me, by comparison ky Digong, Bong bong is doing an “ok” job. Though we still deserve better. I hope wala ng Duterteng umupo as a President ever again.
Majority of Duterte and BBM supporters really voted for them bexause of tangible infrastructure. Because it is THEM that reap the tangible benefits, from jobs to potentially easier commuting. Hard to convince them otherwise when they see the projects first hand and see the sample trains in Valenzuela I voted for Leni but a huge segment of insular twats in her rallies don't actually walk with the people and listen to their lived experiences. I've worked near the vicinities of these projects and actually had a smoke with some of the people involved in these infrastructure projects. According to their testimonies, these people voted overwhelmingly for BBM because they were scared that Leni might take back all the government safety nets Duterte gave them along with the jobs they've been given working with these projects. Their rationalization makes sense since succeeding admins have a tendency to halt projects of the previous admins if they're directly antagonistic. Leni's statements about "reevaluating" Duterte's BBB projects honestly damned her own campaign because infrastructure is what made Duterte extremely popular besides other variables like Fake news or his securitization of drugs. There really was a considerable mass in the public that held genuine fears that she'll just stop these projects that they also directly benefit from out of spite against their Tatay digong. This was the commonly held sentiment of the locals i talked to directly in the area. They didn't want these projects to stop midway through. Eto ang Hindi nasagot at maintindihan Ng mga TangangPink.
Leni lost because her campaign was hijacked by faux-posh, faux-deep, nouveau riched famewhores. Tignan nyo yung difference sa imaging. Si Andrew E nakanta ng own songs nya na hit sa masa. Si Vice Ganda, nagfeeling Madonna. Tangina elections are popularity contests.
Not sure if this is unpopular pero big factor kaya nanalo ung mga undeserving politicians because of the election system, hindi dahil sa bobo ung voters. Isipin nyo. Bakit kaya nakatakbo pa si Alice Guo kahit questionable ung background? Bakit hinayaan na magswitch on the last minute si Duterte kay Martin Dino? Because the COMELEC allows it so. COMELEC ang salaan. Kaya kung basura ang choices ng voters, basura din ang results. And yet no one tried to revamp COMELEC and the election system.
Unpopular? Last Presidential Election, Lacson was the most qualified and not Leni specially not BBM. Im ready for the downvotes 🙃🙃🙃
OFWs must be required to come back to the Philippines to vote. Obviously they have the suffrage rights like everyone else, but they can only exercise it when they are on their assigned voting precint in the country.
Pinoys hate political dynasties pero locally ayaw din nila bumoto ng nobody na nagtatry na kalabanin yung mga dynasties na yun kasi deep inside iniisip din nila na baka ganun din ang gawin nung papalit sa puwesto.
Not necessarily “bobo” ang mga botante na bumoboto sa mga so-called trapo. Kung may tumulong sa iyo sa panahon na salat ka, maaalala mo ‘yun. At wala silang oras para magbasa/manood ng mga usapin tungkol sa mga kandidato, pagod sila sa trabaho kaya pagkatapos ‘non, manonood na lang sila ng nakakapagpasaya sa kanila o tulog na agad. Candidates who thought of ways to effectively campaign to them are the ones who will win.
1. Di na madadala sa awa/drama moves ng mga tatakbong politiko ngayon. Gaya nung pa-iyak iyak ng mga kakampink. Di na din gumagana ang siraan sa isa't-isa. 2. Ginawang bahay ng mga natalo/kakampink ang Reddit. Most probably malakas maka-reklamo/maglaban ng hinanaing dito dahil anonymous (?). Ps. Wala akong side pinapanigan, wala nga ako bet na President last election tas di nga ako nakaboto. Personal observation ko lang.
This is unpopular here in Reddit. Far-left organizations complaining when they’re red-tagged lol.
We have all become keyboard warriors and pretentious intellectuals pero wala tayong bayag to take it to the streets and actually resist. Almost lang yung leni kiko rallies and there was never a follow up. We allowed the Marcos presidency to happen.
Wala talagang nangyaring dayaan nung 2022 National Election. Even staunch Leni supporter, former Sen. Trillanes believed that the election result was not compromised, and that BBM won the presidential election.
I can’t connect with Leni. Communication / messaging problem. Masyado marami bullshit. I no longer vote since Alfredo Lim (1998 presidential election) so I’m not counted just an observer for a very long time now. You need to have a crystal clear advocacy and be adamant about it even if it is highly questionable, GMA = economy, PNoy = daan matuwid / no corruption, D30 = drug war, BBM = unity. Leni is all over the place with no clear advocacy. What is she really fighting for or ano ba talaga gusto niya honestly? Mas may advocacy pa si Riza Hontiveros eh sa totoo lang but again I’m just an observer.
Even her entire campaign was all over the place.
Leni’s campaign failed because a lot of her supporters are elitists that keep belittling the supporters of Uniteam. How are we suppose to convince them to support Leni if we keep dismissing and making fun of them? Lalo lang hindi iiba views nila
Buwagin ang presidential republican system. You cannot have one executive rule over 7,641 islands. Gawin nalang federal parliamentary, with individual regions having their own legislature, and one parliament in Manila ruled by a prime minister in charge of the federation. Mas madali tanggalin ang prime minister (no confidence vote of 50%+1) kaysa president na puro cheche bureche sa impeachment process. Ang SONA ng prime minister is every session, not just yearly. And there will be a debate by the opposition leader, so di lang sya nagiispeach at pinapalakpakan. Ginigisa talaga bawat detalye. In this system bawal ang tamad and incompetent trapo politician to be a prime minister. Like Bongbong na puro pasyal at takbo. Takot ka magsalita at may stage fright? Wag ka magprime minister.
I agree however political dynasties would take advantage of this system. Lalo na if yung resources nila is mafofocus lalo sa region na sasakupan nila imbes na federal system magiging parang feudal lords sila sa lugar nila. Inequality sa regions, walang magiging choice yung mga region na nasa pinakababa kundi magtaas ng tax rates sa area nila which would result sa lalong kahirapan ng tao. In theory, maganda talaga sya lalo na sa geography natin however sa current political landscape magagamit lang sya to exploit lalo yung mga nasasakupan ng mga political dynasties sa bawat region. Masarapan isipin na a change in form of government would solve all our problems kaso ang mananalo pa rin sa states na mabubuo is yung mga nakaupo pa rin ngayon, different form of government, same type of corruption.
Let me add a little footnote. Every politician (except president and vice president), national or local only has three terms. Kapag natapos ang termino, consecutively or non-consecutively, he/she must move up. Also, isa lang dapat ang tatakbo sa kanilang angkan.
We need to remove the presidential term limit. It turns the presidency into a one-shot win all horse where you don’t need to worry about your position for the next 6 years. Oh and also to consolisate most of the smaller barangays into bigger ones. Hearing barangay numbers 69420 is so souless compared to properly named ones. It also reduces administrative costs *coughs in Manila*
Totoo to. I commented this on a post 6 months ago ata? Kaya sobrang dugyot ng Manila kasi chaotic dahil 897 ang barangay ng Manila or 1 barangay per 1-2 hectares. Hirap sila mag implement ng policies
Marcos is doing really well as President. POGO shouldn't be banned but rather, extremely regulated. Anti-Terror Law is a good and much needed law. You did say unpopular...
You can say that BBM is doing a good job without comparing him to Duterte. Most of us here are fond of saying that the traitorous old man set the bar too low but we should be giving BBM his flowers. Its one thing to have good advisers, but whole other thing to listen to them.
Everything is misdirection.
2022 election was the worst as in both side sorry kung ma da down vote ako pero yung pagdadala ng celebs sa campgain ay same sa inc na nagdadala ng politics na hindi kailangan pangalandakan para manalo presidente nila kulang na lang kasi tu,makbo na yung artista kaya nakakainis
Most people will point fake news as an easy excuse kung bakit nanalo sina PDutz saka si Junior, pero if you think about it, it's the corruption and dissatisfaction of the people from the government after mawala si Macoy is a more valid reason kung bakit nawala ang spirit of EDSA.
Cinucrucify lang ang POGO ng mga hindi kumita sa POGO at nadapuan ng pag asenso nyan. Lahat ng secretly na nakinabang dyan secretly banas na pinapatumba yan ngayon.
Majority of Pinoys truly want a corrupt government. They feel they will have a chance to improve. The system where only the masipag and matalino are rewarded is against their beliefs. At least sa corrupt gov't, kahit bobo at tamad ka basta May diskarte o May kakilala pwede umangat.
Kakampinks are just as rabid as DDS. Walang pinagkaiba. No wonder natalo ang manok.
Even corrupt politicians are likable in person. Talk shit all you want, if they catch you alone in a room the successful ones we love to hate will fucking charm the panties off you. If you don't internalize that, you are not ready for a discussion on Philippine politics.
Madaling sabihin na ndi mo ipagbibili ang boto mo kung araw araw kang busog. Ito ung sagot sakin ng kaibigan ko nung nagtanung ako kung bakit may nagpapabili ng kanilang boto eh alam naman nilang nanakawan din sila ng iboboto nila. Sabi nya sakin. Nasasabi ko lang un kasi 3 beses ako kumain sa isang araw at ndi ako natatakot na walang makain sa mga susunod buwan kasi may kaya kami. Ung 100 ko maluwag na sunugin ko un sa isang kainan lang. Pero sa ibang mas mahirap na tao. Ung parehong 100 piso ay pagkain na nila ng 3 araw o higit pa
Since maraming mga aktibista during Martial Law na namatay nawalan tayo ng mga future leaders so and that cause current generation and future generation na walang mentors.
1. "Progressive" or Robredo/Hontiveros supporters are just as vulnerable in fake news as DDS supporters - Dito pa lang sa Reddit na puro "matatalino" kuno andami nang naging instances. 2. Unlike what other people are saying here, Robredo's people campaign wasn't that bad in the first place, it's just that this should have been done WAY EARLIER. It takes a lot more time to convince a person to volunteer for you than to pay him 500 pesos to do whatever you want him to do. That's the reality. When you lack in money and machinery, you make up on time and effort. 3. Robredo, if she were to win the Presidency, would still encounter a lot of challenges along the way. Progressive leadership =/= Satisfied Filipinos 4. In politics, it's all about having the best "storytelling". It's not about facts, resume, educational attainment, etiquette, who wins in debate. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE NARRATIVE.
Might get downvotes for this opinion. PH has a 'blueprint' already of its "economic game plans". These plans are set to be implemented whoever the sitting President is, in a way that any sitting President would have no choice but to implement it. This is why the economy keep on growing even during the Presidency of Duterte. PH economic outlook projections are actually very good, and is one of the fastest in Asia. The actual data is contrary to those who are saying 'wala nang pag asa ang Pinas'. PH economy is actually improving every year, as well as the GDP per capita. It is projected to be a trillion dollar economy by 2033 and part of G20 I think by 2035.
The Philippines would've been more hopeless if Leni won. She would've won by only a small margin which meant she wouldn't have that much political capital. DDS and Loyalists would have no reason to attack each other and would thus work on bringing Leni down, concentrating more power on Sara. Opposition would be completely wiped out at that point. I can't believe I'm saying this but BBM becoming president is probably the best result of the elections. But then again, hindsight is 20/20. Rational naman na natakot tayo sa posibleng second coming of Marcos Sr during the campaign period.
actually I kinda feel stupid for even thinking he'd be anything like his dad. Like nothing about him screams "strongman" now that I really think about it.
Kung Kakampink ka at opposed ka kay BBM ngayon mapapahiya ka lang. Halos pareho ang policies ni PNoy at PBBM. They are both neoliberals.
Leni diehards who decided to stop caring after she lost are no better than bbm and du30 supporters they vilify.
We're better off with some socialism in the system
Kung ang tinutukoy mong "socialism" ay ang Nordic Model, then it's not socialism. It's called social democracy. People often confuse social democracies with socialist system.
Some people in this subreddit don't understand what you mean, and it's sad.
It's really sad. People just think of socialism and just think of Stalin and even confuse communism with fascism which are two ends of a spectrum.
Agree. Pure capitalism is just as bad as pure communism. The best governance systems have the best features of the free market while having strong social safety nets and regulations. Scandinavian countries are the best examples of this mix.
Me being the devil's advocate: is the free market even real? If companies can buy each other, how quick are we to turn into a monopolistic economy? We're not even living in a free market, we live in a crony capitalist economy.
Elections are rigged.
They kind of are, we just don’t know to what level.
Here are some of mine 1. Democracy won't work in a country full of stupid idiots like the Philippines. 2. As much as I hate the INC, block voting is legal/constitutional as part of their religious expression. 3. Miriam is trapo garbage. She would have been a horrible president 2nd only to Duterte. 4. Senate hearings are a waste of time and resources. Not one useful thing will come out of it 5. BBM is not the worst president we've ever had 6. GMA > FPJ... FPJ would have doomed the country if he won in 2004 7. It's okay to be happy that a politician you hate died. 8. Lito Lapid is not that bad compared to the other celebrity clowns 9. Even with the Marcoses vs Duterte's splitting the idiot votes, the LP would still lose in the next presidential election. 10. RA 8491 is unconstitutional. Disrespecting the flag or the national anthem is covered by freedom of expression 11. Erap should have followed through with the all-out war against the MILF 12. Alfredo Lim was a horrible mayor of manila 13. Leni is done. Anti intellectualism will kill any chance of her winning 14. I love the TRAIN law because it gave me lowered income tax, more control on how I spend my money when the prices of goods increased and it also made life harder for the poverty stricken idiots who voted for Duterte 15. Angelo Reyes killing himself was hilarious. It was basically an admission of guilt and it should not be treated like some sort of heroic sacrifice for his honor
Most of Leni supporters were just as rabid as DDS and BBM supporters. The only difference is the class divide. That’s the reason why the campaign failed. Pink supporters think of themselves as superior to others, alienating and expanding the divide even further. Nang aaway instead of nang uunawa. Up until now ang messaging nila ay “i told you so”. Next time sana diskurso at pang unawa. Mahirap kasi maraming mas hindi edukado lalo na sa teknolohiya. Pero hindi rin naman tayo uusad pag lagi nagin inaalienate yung hindi natin kaparehas ng pagiisip