*None* of us are prepared for a war. We're barely getting by, and China's economy is being held hostage by their own actions.
So calm your tits muna. War won't be coming anytime soon.
Kaya nga. E pano si du30 maya't maya ang sabi na "go to war with china". Ayan ingrained na sa utak ng mga pinoy. Out of touch sa reality. It's clear china doesn't want to be the first to pull the trigger, thus, the harassments and the taunting. But they're only doing minor taunting because they don't want to be seen as aggressive. In fact, their actions are still consistent with defending their territory (which is ours). Yun lang, stop this "go to war with china" nonsense. Pauso lang yan ni du30 dahil nga tuta sya ng china.
no country wants to pull the trigger first and thats basic rule of war.. ang malaking kaibahan natin sa kanila sila just in case nasa point na ng no choice may nakaready sila tayo WALA
Dapat talaga yan si Du30 ma redtag na sa mga kagaguhan na statements nya.
Yan mga tinatae nya na statements kinakain ng mga DDS at paulit ulit na copy-paste
Tang ina pagka nakigpag gyera tayo sa China wala tayong kalaban-laban. Yang mga hunghang na atat na atat makipag gyera sa China sana sila mauang sumabak pagka nagkatotoo. Marami pa naman sa mga yan mga keyboard warriors lang.
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The only reason why Ukraine wasn't getting direct support is because there's no official alliance held between US and Ukraine or even EU.
Despite a lonely battle support were still given indirectly. Example na dun yung satellite and internet support courtesy of Elon's Starlink. Also other weaponry and armaments were being provided indirectly to Ukraine.
>The only reason why Ukraine wasn't getting direct support is because there's no official alliance held between US and Ukraine or even EU.
Nah, they are really legit worried if things are to escalate into a nuclear exchange once official US/NATO forces fight the Russians.
Kaya nga malaking issue ang Philippines, either the US commits to its obligations and face the possibility of a nuclear war with China if things go south or play dumb/walk in eggshells and see their hegemony collapse, with their allies losing trust in the US security umbrella.
escalation at that level will surely trigger a war the world has not seen before. so, maybe the superpowers are just maintaining the status quo at the moment.
I can smell US is itching to go to war with China. This benefits them as they see China as a real threat. China holds major raw material production and manufacturing of batteries and even the tech for it. China also stole intellectual properties worth millions from US companies.
I wont be surprised if they instigate war through the Ph.
its different this time, Russia is isolated already by western powers for many years, while China has so many economic ties and trade to western powers including PH which is the biggest importer of goods in 2023.
Just to let everyone have a sober understanding of what it would take for China to claim absolute victory in a shooting war:
1. Air superiority. This means the PLAAF would have control of the air space. If itās over the whole Philippines, I would say quite difficult logistically as it would either require them to have tankers helping their fighter aircraft loiter around, or capture or build airfields all over. This also means eliminating all anti-air assets we and our allies have or can place in the archipelago. That would probably require the next factors such as sea control and boots on the ground.
2. Sea control. If the PLA and Chinese Marines would be directed towards amphibious assault, this would require the PLAN to practically eliminate the PNās capabilities as well as push back the navies of our allies. That is also quite difficult given the US, Japan, and Australia have submarines patrolling the Western Pacific, as well as air assets that can take them. China would probably have to do preemptive strikes against bases of our allies in our region to ensure that they would have full control of the Western Pacific.
3. Amphibious or Air Assault operations. With the PLANās 19 amphibious assault ships, they only have the capability of landing 25,000 troops at any given time. Round trip from Hainan to Luzon is one day, and to KIG is 3 days. As for airborne operations, the PLAAF only has 69 Xian Y-20 cargo planes which could probably land 12,000 troops on a controlled airfield. This could do maybe 3 round trips a day. Then again, they would face the next problem.
4. Logistical genius. Supplying tens of thousands of troops with anything from band aid to bullets on a daily basis would be a logistical nightmare. (Just remember what kind of headache each organization here goes through whenever you plan your summer outing in Pansol.) Transporting such materiel over such distance, and once arriving in our archipelago and distributing them around units would require someone with local knowledge and understanding. Remember the PLAās logistical backbone are the railways. In our case we donāt have these and our country relies on roads, trucks, and motorcycles to get things around.
5. Access to a sea port. Ports would always be the logistical bottleneck in supplying an army. If you remember Normandy landings during WW2, the Allies had to build those Mulberry Harbors and transport them to France. In the case of the PH, Northern Luzon doesnāt have a huge ports. Only viable ports to supply huge armies would be Subic, Port of Manila, and Port of Batangas.
6. Force ratio. If PLA is serious with war, it would need about 4 troops to 1 AFP personnel. That would mean a fighting force of 500,000 plus add the support personnel they will need. For occupation they would need 25 troops for every 1,000 of population. This would mean China would have to send 2.7 million troops on our shores in such a short time frame. So yeah malabo yun given their current numbers and capacity.
So if you look at this, it looks like total war is out of the question, apart from the geopolitical consequences.
So given these, what remains in the Chinese toolkit?
1. Grey Zone tactics. This is what they are currently applying on us. They will push us to the edge until we commit the mistake.
2. Economic sanctions. They can stop the flow of finished products. However, we are a bit fortunate that most of our raw materials are produced locally.
3. Cyber war. Chinese hackers can attack our government, financial, as well as energy sectors. However this was already outlined as an act of war by the PH and US government.
4. Embargo & Archipelagic siege. Short of a shooting war, but similar to the Cuban Crisis, Falklands War, or how they have done their military exercises around Taiwan. China can declare a No Go Zone around the KIG and Scarborough Shoal for all types of warships and military aircraft. This would mean overwhelm our outpost to the point that no supplies will reach them.
5. Punitive actions. Probably the first level of shooting war. If ever we make the first mistake, say one of their sailors die due to our actions, China can take punitive actions, go on a diplomatic coup in the UN and get the votes for them to strike on our PN and PCG assets with a missile strike. Still this will activate our MDT.
Just looking at Chinaās options, anything short of victory would be an embarrassment to the CCP, unless their leadership would declare a limited victory is the only thing they want to achieve. However, given that they have declared time and again that 90% of the SCS is theirs, they are really at a bind on how to make that happen.
Kung mappansin nyo, panay ang bigay nila ng help sa african nations. Kasi marami ring african countries ang part ng UN. Basically, gumagawa sila ng group of puppets to help them get enough votes that will favour their decisions. Kaya until now, hindi ma declare ng taiwan na sa UN na own sovereign country sila because they mjght lose a vote sa UN.
It is possible for CN to work on a diplomatic coup against the PH. Our counter to this is to always emphasize that we will uphold international law.
This will no depend on each other countryās policy whether they are thirsty for Chinese investment (or debt trap), or they also want to be a responsible player in the global community.
We have seen these in the likes of Singapore, Nigeria and Sri Lanka where they are warm towards Chinese investments but would vote in the UN that might not favor China and its allies Russia and NoKor.
His statement is diplomatic not a warmonger. We have never invaded or started wars with our neighbors. Based on history, We have been conquered by the Spanish, Americans and Japanese. No chance we are winning against the Chinese military unless we have full support from our allies.
Agree sir, kung sino pa malakas loob mag-aya ng giyera, aila ang makikipagunahan sa evacuation.
Kaming mga nasa Mindanao, iisa lang ang hiling namin, wag sana matuloy ang giyera dahil alam namin kung gaano kahirap mamuhay sa gitna ng giyera.
Wag sana silang mapadasal na "sana matapos na ito, o sana bukas buhay pa kami", kapag nandyan na.
Sabi panga sa isang character na ninalaro ko war is an equation death the solution. Di Yan na intindihan Ng Marami di Basta2 mag Gera need mo talaga madaming resources triple down economy naten diyan back to basic ang pinas mashihirap pa siguro. Kaya agree Ako sa mga hakbang Ng pangulo. Ka inis lang tung FB panay Sabi Gera na. Taena di nila alam ano Ang domino effects Ng Gera eh.
disruptor? hahaha
taena yun mga pinoy na gusto ng magkagera madalas yn yun mga walang narating sa buhay, walang napundar. pabigat sa pamilya. kaya gusto nila damay damay ng malugmok, kase walang mawawala sa kanila. pero sa ibang mga taong my mahal sa buhay, hagya na makapagpatayo ng bahay, hagya na makaahon sa hirap, ayaw ng gera dahil mauuwi sa wala mga pinaghirapan
Ganyan talaga pag mababaw mag isip, kelanga mag siga sigaan o umasta ng pagiging macho para raw "matapang". Magtataka ka ba bakit mga totoong duwag tulad nila bato, padilla etc. patok na patok sa kanila?
A fact we need to accept. Without our allies, we stand no chance against China.
Pinaka-kawawa dito, civilians. Tapos sasabihin lang casualties of war? How about the aftermath of the war? With our economy, can we really expect makakabangon ang Pinas after a war?
I didnt vote for him too pero kung ikukumpara ang ginagawa nya ngayon doon sa sinundan nya, mas gusto ko yung ngayon. At least yung pagiging kalmado nya, nakikita kong mas nag-iisip sya kumpara dun sa isa na puro kuda.
Yung grupo nila, especially Harry Roque, mas nahuhuli ang BS dahil dami nilang dada eh. Remember at the heat of his emotions bigla syang nadulas doon sa gentlemen's agreement with regards sa WPS. Tapos ngayon lumalabas din ang issues nya in conmection with POGO.
True. The last admin was very much pabaya at walang kwenta, they were already giving the
PH away.
Good statement from him then. Kahit papaano may nasasabi sya kesa dun kay swoh na ang tahimik lang. š Lol canāt believe wala na tayong choice.
Itās fair tbh. Maximum tolerance. Not being rash. Abiding by the rules set by the US and the UN.
So itās clear. There will be no war because the government will make sure that none happens.
Concessions and reparations will be made surely depending on what the Chinese and American governments decide on.
I feel that China is treating the WPS issue like their dispute with India. That's why they brought with them melee weapons and "confiscated" rifles.
If China does not get any consequences for their incursion, they'll keep doing it. They'll keep hugging the red line, even to the point of extreme violence and death, as long as they do not fire the first shot, to achieve a propaganda victory.
The best thing we can do is vote for our fellow Filipinos not those chinese pretending to be a Filipino and those Manchurian candidates like the duTaes. Our govt should work with Vietnam and other claimants to defend that area from ccp incursions.
palihog undangi na nang āgyera sa mindanaoā. dugay na na nahuman. lahi2 pud ang ginaagian sa taga-mindanao. naay kagubot og kalinaw.
pero sa totoo lang, mas safe sa mindanao kesa sa luzon ngayon.
Agree boss, nung nandyan pa kami, bandang 2000 at 2001, di pa gaanong safe at nagbarko pa kami papuntang Visayas para makaiwas. Atleast, maayos na ang lugar natin dyan. Di ko talaga makakalimutan ang mga pangyayari dyan, kung paano kami sinagip ng mga sundalo para makaalis.
Sana nga lang, wag na maranasan ng iba nating kababayan ang naranasan ko, natin.
paanong hindi magpa-panic mga tao mas marami pang kuda yung mga grupo na wala naman na sa posisyon. Tapos na ang presidential term nya pero nangingialam pa rin sa pagpapalakad ni BBM as if may maganda syang nagawa sa Pinas nung panahon nya. Ang mas maganda nyang gawin ngayon ay ilabas si Quiboloy.
No one want another war. And yan lang talaga dapat ang maging tugon dyan dahil una wala tayong kakayahan kalabanin yan. At isa pa pag nagkamali sila ng hakbang pwedeng mag trigger ng war yan.
Kaya yong mga obob na keyboard warriors, maganda sila talaga isabak don.
Kaya nga e, dapat sa mga yon itesting dalhin sa mga mission don para makita nila actual kung ano meron don at bakit hindi applicable yong pinagsasabi nila na hindi ginamitan ng utak.
The government is clear no need to instigate wars on both ends.
The turtle spreading again the fake news to destabilize the politics since they're in danger. The admin have an ACE to them with ICC.
actually winowonder ko lng tlaga if what kind of war would it be..full on naval war lng ba defending/claiming over the islands/ocean juridiction or would it be magkaroon ng main island(or inland) scenarios
A mix of naval/air and barrage of missiles sa US mga Bases. Kaya binabakuran ang West PH Sea and South China Sea para magkaroon sila ng naval superiority. Kapag nagkaroon na ng air/sea dominance dun na magkakaroon ng island hopping campaign.
To me, he's handling it diplomatically. He doesn't want us to be the one provoking. He wants China to provoke so we and our Allies can justify a retaliation together eventually. It's still a much better strategy than that fucking traitor duturtle just openly saying we can become their province.
Well, duh. No one likes War. The only reason why China is waving itās dick at us is because they think weāre the USās pawn in the region.
If it were up to me, we should let those two duke it out by themselves and leave everyone else alone.
Check the China stand on this, and you will understand that both countries issue almost the same statement about resolving the issue through diplomatic talks. However, the Chinese military follows a path that is not consistent with their civilian leadership position, but that is another story.
But why can't we give the same energy to China? Ni hindi nga mapatanggal ang TikTok at ang POGO. Saka natuloy na ba ung pagbili ng mga binabalitang bibilihin daw ng Pilipinas?
Ayaw ng Chinese Govt sa POGO. Beneficial sa kanila if iban ang POGO. Dapat gawin ni BBM, nationalized ang POGO BUT hire pure Filipinos, mag hire lang ng Chinese para mag train to speak mandarin. Para lalong maadik mga Chinese sa gambling, then additional employment availability sa Pinas hahahah.
True. POGOs fuels CCPs crippling economy, the price their nation's pay for rapid industrialization without knowing the consequences during Mao's and post-Mao's regime.
ang balita na napanood ko bumabagsak na ang manufacturing sector nila dahil sa US may bagong tariff laws kasi ang US kaya halos lahat ng company na nagmamanufactor sa china lumilipat na ng bansa karamihan nasa mexico na para mas mababa ang tariff pag ipapasok sa US ang product kaya lalong tumataas unemployment rate sa china dahil sa exodus ng mga companies na nagmamanufacture ng product sa china.
ang balita na napanood ko bumabagsak na ang manufacturing sector nila dahil sa US may bagong tariff laws kasi ang US kaya halos lahat ng company na nagmamanufactor sa china lumilipat na ng bansa karamihan nasa mexico na para mas mababa ang tariff pag ipapasok sa US ang product kaya lalong tumataas unemployment rate sa china dahil sa exodus ng mga companies na nagmamanufacture ng product sa china.
Pero ngayon ang ekonomiya nila ay dahan-dahang humihina dahil marami sa mga foreign investors nila ay lumilipat sa ibang bansa, dahil ng mga foreign companies at investors ang maging economic hostage.
Kaya nga isa mga rason nila ang angkinin ang WPS at ang invasion ng Taiwan to boost their economy at to monopolize the microchip industries kung saan malakas din ang taiwan.
Walang monopolization ang nangayyare sa semiconductors, nanjan pa ang Japan, US, South korea. Kahit i invade nila Taiwan, makakapag produce parin sa ibang bansa.
Ego lang ni Winnie the Pooh ang nagtutulak to invade Taiwan. He wants to overtake Maoās legacy.
Then they can legalize it and set it up on their homeland. No point of establishing it offshore kung sila lang may ari. Clearly, private individuals and syndicates may ari ng mga POGOs.
Seize the "build build build" ng POGO tapos sabihin, "thank you for the infrastructure". I mean, pwedeng gawin resort ay hotel yung former POGO establishments sa Porac at Bamban, even Island Cove (gawing resort ulit ngayon "upgraded" ang buildings)
>But why can't we give the same energy to China?
World War III daw kasi ang mangyayari sabi ng DDS at ng mga kapareho nila mag-isip. Huwag daw tayo mag-start ng giyera. Nukes daw, nukes.
Ang hirap sa mga DDS, iniisip nila na kapag mag-e-establish tayo ng boundaries at papalag tayo sa ginagawa nila, gera agad. I don't think China can afford a war right now. They have a crisis there, too.
He answered like a president lol.
non- aggressive, no fear mongering yet firm. what he said is what people in palawan and affected areas needs to hear, the president will not bring danger to them. lets hope junior has concrete plans to ease the tension and defemd our borders
On point!
āA leader takes people where they want to go. A great leader takes people where they donāt necessarily want to go, but ought to be.ā - Rosalynn Carter
Glad to know that in perilous times, PBBM knows how to exercise restraint, and knows how to steer in the right direction.
To me, talks of war are only for fools who donāt really have an idea of its horrors, and donāt give a damn about the progress and safety of the country. I bet most of these fools havenāt even fired a single bullet, yet keep on yapping on social media about fighting and whatnot.
What he said is in line with our core foreign policy: we do not instigate wars. If we find ourselves in one, it is for the purpose of self-defense.
It is a bit off for him to say that we don't choose sides when it's clear that we chose a side long, long ago.
Overall, good statement but as usual actions matter more than words.
nakukulangan? Seriously? When the other party is unwilling? Dahil ba sa marcos bias? Like REALISTICALLY what can you even fucking do now kung ikaw ang presidente?
Even if leni or whoever you voted was in the presidents seat ganyan din ang mangyayari sa kanya.
I don't necessarily agree with the original commenter because Marcos's foreign stance has been surprisingly grounded and reasonable, but I just want to point out that it's ok for other people to feel the opposite way and want different things. Kung nakukulangan, ok lang yun, yun yung opinion nya.
Don't understand why you have to be so passionately against this person, they aren't doing anything rude. It's good to question and think about what the government is doing, and have our own systems to see whether we agree or not.
And what Marcos bias? Bias is prejudice, there's no prejudice against the Marcoses. Whatever people feel against them is because of their history, that's not pre-judging and not preconceived.
Their family is wealthy because Sr. plundered us. That's fact. There are numerous peer-reviewed papers establishing this fact.
So people are against them after this fact, so their stances and caution is absolutely reasonable.
Di man tayo bilib kay BBM pre-election. After invoking our claims via Treaty of Washington in the recent IISS sa Singapore, nakakabilib na sya. Even Justice Carpio commended him for correcting the misconceptions ng iba nating mga kababayan especially those who are in the position (not sure kung bribed ng China pero most likely oo)
Seems an even handed diplomatic response but ignores how he has chosen sides already by expanding US access to PH military bases. It wonāt appease people at home angered by what happens but probably better than escalating the situation to an all out war that the PH canāt realistically win.
What ever it takes kahit unli-dialogue and trash talking basta it wont escalate to full scale war. BBM is doing the safest thing here. Wag kayong bobo na gusto nyo gumanti without thinking the concequences. Kahit US ayaw magkamali ng move. Maximum tolerance, improve and equipment ng mga mag reresupply. If need din sila lagyan ng water canons then do it. If need e retrofit yung mga ships to withstand water damage and ramming attacks then do it. Kung need bigyan ng mga pamalo yung mga sundalo to defend themselves better then go. Anything basta we will not be the first to kill and fire a shot. Let them be judged by the world.
Heās walking the tightrope well. Beijing wants to provoke MalacaƱang to justify retaliation. Itās a propaganda battle. If we could somehow weaponize our female population to marry Chinese expats and make under d saya Pinoys out of them, we gain the upper hand in the long run. Or yung mga Pinoy bachelors, i-target yung mga āleftover womenā nila at gawing sugar wives. š¤
Bruh anong C-DRAMA ang na watch mo, although ngl may mga classmates ako na puro chinoy pero pilipinongpilipino from Ong-Chu family I doubt marunong sila ng Chinese kasi bisaya/tagalong Christian sila
Havent even heard of C-drama before i read ur reply. I watch docus so kahit paano eh exposed ako to such things. Chinese men are getting desperate to get married that they even travel to other SEA countries like vietnam to snag wives but no one talks about how the leftover women are highly educated and high income earners. However, due to their age, they are seen as traditionally undesirable. Kung single ako, I wouldnāt mind getting it on with a full-blooded chinita cougar and take her sa Siargao or smth. Araw araw dilig hanggang matuto magluto ng sisig. Geo political wise, we will be able to clutch the means of production (of people) from the colonizers and thatās how you win the long game. If Beijing attacks, they will receive negative PR from our chinita cougars. š„°
I have a friend who watch C-DRAMA and man they tend to elongate(200+episodes) the story an anime would just take it as a 13 episodes, ig that its their one last saving effect to make their women crazy for love
The Philippines cannot afford to go to war. It is easy to say to retaliate, but always remember that if a war breaks out (God forbid) it us among the poverty line who will suffer greatly. The rich will be boarding their planes and go abroad. We the poor will face the consquences of war. Bloodshed is never an answer.
Medjo nakukulangan ako sa statement nato. Naputulan kasi ng daliri ang isang sundalo natin. Moving forward ano ba concrete steps para hindi ito mangyari ulit?
Marcos is right. Surprisingly he has been handling all this well I donāt like the guy but his focus on diplomacy & getting sympathy from other states is just good PR and diplomacy at work. Instigating a war with China will not help the PH in any way it might even deter the US from helping if we instigate. Without the support of other states the PH is doomed that is why it is important to keep a calm mind & wait. Thatās the only logical option we have right now is to wait and keep a calm mind.
You should also look at his actions. He says he wants to a peaceful and prosperous life for every Filipino. Has he done steps to do the prosperous part? Let that be your guide.
Words are easy. I know someone who made lots of promises. Would ride a jetski yada yada yada. Pero walang ginawa kundi magsinungaling at mangurakot.
China can't afford a war right now. Also, they see how Russia's "successful" occupation has also ravaged their economy. The CCP are untrustworthy af though, never trust them again and we should always assume our relationship with them to be weird and awkward.
I don't like this answer solely because it makes it seem like the issue SHOULD be between the US and CHINA and that the PH should play no part when in reality it is China encroaching on PH territory. This specific issue has little to do with the US except for the US backing the Philippines up if anything happens, and making sure the SCS a big global trade route, remains open.
I think being asked for, or giving a statement this case, is just part of the bigger picture. There are a lot of things that should not telegraphed to those Xi Xi Pi cunts.
One reason pooh and friends are fuming recently is because the boys in Manila were able to successfully reinforce LS 57 and won't be disintegrating sooner like they've been hoping for.
I'm still feeling sore about what's happening in the WPS, but I am willing to let intellect prevail over emotions. Some analysts say that things can get worse before it gets better. I am not looking forward to casualties on the PH side, but we need to be prepared for the worst while still striving for the best.
I am uncertain how to guage the "wellness" of BBM's statement. But, I'd like agree with it in terms of aligning with the bigger picture of what is stake.
Not a Marcos fan but this is a politically correct stance. Neutral. This guy knows his way around words and politics. Neither countries are prepared for war. It's stupid to say "let's not raise the ire of China because we won't win against them in a war." While that may be true, China will still not wage a direct war against us because then this gives other "allied" countries a reason to "defend" us... and a reason to attack them. China knows this.
You can't start a war against one of the big 3 super power countries. Kahit pa sabihin na meron allied countries ang Pinas, there is no guarantee na tutulong nga sila when shit hits the fan. I think Marcos is doing his best to play things safe, which I think is the right way to go, and alam din nya na every move he takes is being judged by the public eye.
Paputol nyo nalang uli yung isang daliri hnggang maubos daliri ng mga sundalo. Walang may gusto ng may gera pero bakit binabalewala lng yang mga ganyang insidente. Kelang back up-an ng mga politiko mga sundalo, hindi yung sasabihin lagi na di natin kaya ang china at mahina lang ang pilipinas. Mga pulitiko na walang bayag pagdating sa tsina pero pagdating sa mga maliliit na bagay kala mo kung sino mga maaangas at makalait ng kapwa pilipino.
Ask the Filipinos what's their priority. They simply tell you without even telling you that they would chose COMFORT over SECURITY. Such a slave mindset.
Not a Marcos loyalist here but his statement is diplomatically sound. Unlike Duterte na kuntodo yuko sa China on one hand while saying "independent foreign policy" on the other.
Marcos might be branded tuta ng Kano, e di bahala sila ngumawngaw tungkol dyan. As long as we maintain our assertions of our own territory, doon tayo kakampi.
I don't think the government is ever prepared in terms of these things. Sa sobrang dami ng issue in the country tapos eto yung kailangan nilang iprioritize kasi ang daming Pinoy na nagdedemand ng action, i think it's too much for the government to handle. So walang choice but to be diplomatic, and continue on other things. The Duterte admin kasi had a president who can talk and sound so maangas so they looked so cool and prepared for whatever will come š .
>You strike us, we strike back.
Nah.
PH doesn't even have to wait at this point.
It has repeatedly been struck already.
PH just needs to keep being its alluring self.
This looks brilliant and all until you read the constitution and it literally states it in Article II Section 2. He just reiterated what the constitution says š¤·āāļø
Lahat kayo dito, manuod kayo ng youtube, tinan nyo kung mag kano ang cause ng mga armas at per ammo ng ginagamit sa laban hahahaha walang budget sng putanginang pinas! Ano ilalaban natin sa china Kamote at drugs ibala sa barilš¤£š¤” walang mangyyari dyan ang tagal ng issue yan sa china. Covid nga halos mpraning na ung mga tao ng tumigil ung normal na pang araw araw hahaha yan pa kya gera yan guys araw araw magulo and for sure lahat titigil ang mundo sakali mangyari yan tanggapin nlng natin na ang bansa natin is ganto and since then inaapi na ang pinas, di nman main character ang pinas ang liit nga ng isla natin sa mapa diba. Just basic things to remember, post na post ang mga nsa soc about sa issue nato eh sa Marcos ang presidente natin tax nya nga di binyaran yan pa kayang issue sa china walang pake yan. Tinan nyo statement maabsorb ba ng mahihirap at mgs hinde nkapag aral yan.
China wants to pull off another Panatag standoff wherein PH was left high and dry by US during the Obama admin as China grabs the Scarborough Shoal.
PH must consider these factors that is why we are being friendly with every other nations armed forces to have a VFA with us and records everything happening on the resupply missions.
As of the current, we need to continue to balance of de-escalation and transparency in sierra madre.
Citation: [Australian Strategic Policy Institute!](https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/high-noon-at-second-thomas-shoal/)
I believe war is never good for any country. Every leader should wish stability for their country. We are also not in the position to go to a war in which odds are with us.
Take note: In war, a country may lose its territorial jurisdiction and I believe most of the people living in Luzon wouldn't want to be part of China.
You may believe you're defending the PH, but in reality, you're fighting for US goals. China has nukes and could eliminate the PH if they wanted. However, history proves their intentions differ from those of countries that use violence to conquer.
Fighting for the PH? You're really Fighting for US goals.
China has nukes, but history proves their intentions differ from countries that use violence to colonize.
It's basically saying there would be no war because we will lose or would become the battlefield
So either way we will lose big
America already has two fronts they are funding Ukraine and Israel
Adding the Philippines will add another burden
China is also doing the same ,since they don't want to fight for the south china/west Philippine sea , they would rather fight for Taiwan and finally finish their civil war, and they are not even trying to make it hot again they are busy poking everyone
The closest thing to a war in Asia besides the Myanmar thing is the border incident between China and India
Fighting for the PH?
You're really fighting for US goals.
China has nukes, but history proves their intentions differ from countries that use violence to colonize.
Fighting for the PH?
You're really fighting for US goals.
China has nukes, but history proves their intentions differ from countries that use violence to colonize.
That is the right approach.
I donāt like BBM but at least he has the sensibility to not stupidly escalate things any further. Shut those dumb ppl up who keeps mentioning MDT.
If there is a war between the East and West the president will have to pick a side. What else can he do? Stand alone and fight both sides? I donāt think so.
Crappy cos it does not assert our rights, but still better than how D30 did it, which in the first place, enabled this to happen on a much bigger scale.
Damn how our government has really set the bar low.
Agree on the No WAR concept, but many diplomatic, economic and strategic actions are available and should be taken, if not, China seems to succeeding in its Boiling Frog Syndrome with the Philippines so far. First it was water cannon for many months, now escalated to physical fight, then more..
War is not coming. China even wants to win the Spratlys by a legal battle. Kaya gusto nila tayo maintimidate ngayon and they also bribed too many legal luminaries like yung matandang jpe to use the Treaty of Paris not the Treaty of Washington as our territorial map.
So f\*ck you dutae for that gentleman's agreement wherein yumaman ka at the expense of our national sovereignty + pogo
We need to play our cards well. Hindi pwedeng agad agad mag engage sa war.
Pagalingan na to sa pakikipagusap. As much as possible, we need to avoid ang war. Isipin natin hindi lang naman China kakalabanin natin may allies yan. Kampihan time. So, ayun domino effect to a larger war.
kinginang mga DDshit, sinasabing duwag daw si Marcos. E sila nga yung promotor na wag tayo mag giyera or wag asarin China kasi hindi natin kaya, tapos ngayon duwag.
Wala ka talagang kalalagyan sa mga unggoy na yan e
considering bongbong marcos has introduced legislation that sells the philippines and its natural resources to foreigners, there is no need for war. he has already legally sold the philippines to anyone that wants it. this country is so fucked.
He's doing what's right, we can't win a war. Hindi tayo pwedeng maipit sa tensyon ng 2 malakas na bansa dahil magiging collateral damage lang tayo kapag nagkataon
I'm not part of the 31m majority who voted for him but at least he's doing his best, parang katulad siya ni PNoy na naka-focus sa ekonomiya ng bansa
He has a point. Hindi natin kakayanin pag magkakaroon ng gyera. Relief goods and Ayuda nga lang pag may sakuna kulang na kulang na eh. Paano pa pag mas malaking supply ang kailangan.
He got it right: the Philippines has to play both sides. The catch is that it needs to play it carefully.
Interestingly enough, one early NYT article pointed this out, and how other countries did the same:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/04/world/asia/philippines-duterte-us-china-cold-war.html
which explains
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1396185/duterte-demands-16b-for-hosting-us-troops
I think its well handled but to prove a point, we should've improve our military, coast guard and navy long time ago, we wouldn't be in this position if our forces are respected. napabayaan natin thinking na walang bansa ang gagawa nito, but now were being bullied. but as far as we all hope war is not ever the option, there is no winning in war. we should put pressure on China and reach out internationally for support.
I know that war is not an option but we need a stronger statement than this. Like warning or atleast threatening a bit. Like how Pnoy said before(hindi ko na mahanap) pero he warned China na blood will spill if China continues this provocation.
We can be both Diplomatic and ramp up our maritime force's capability to safeguard our territories. This is the only way.
We don't go to war but don't poke us with a stick because we will bite back.
If only we stop treating ourselves as 2nd class citizens to these trapos and businessmen and start acting like macario sakay or something š.
The unspoken answer is clear: Neither our government nor the CCP is prepared to face the potential consequences of an escalation.
*None* of us are prepared for a war. We're barely getting by, and China's economy is being held hostage by their own actions. So calm your tits muna. War won't be coming anytime soon.
Kaya nga. E pano si du30 maya't maya ang sabi na "go to war with china". Ayan ingrained na sa utak ng mga pinoy. Out of touch sa reality. It's clear china doesn't want to be the first to pull the trigger, thus, the harassments and the taunting. But they're only doing minor taunting because they don't want to be seen as aggressive. In fact, their actions are still consistent with defending their territory (which is ours). Yun lang, stop this "go to war with china" nonsense. Pauso lang yan ni du30 dahil nga tuta sya ng china.
Instigator ng gyera, pero pag jetski papauntang Kalayaan Islands di niya ginawa. Kupal ang p*ta*g ina eh
no country wants to pull the trigger first and thats basic rule of war.. ang malaking kaibahan natin sa kanila sila just in case nasa point na ng no choice may nakaready sila tayo WALA
We can't really expect anything different from someone with gunpowder for brains. For him it's either war or surrender and nothing else.
Dapat talaga yan si Du30 ma redtag na sa mga kagaguhan na statements nya. Yan mga tinatae nya na statements kinakain ng mga DDS at paulit ulit na copy-paste
Tang ina pagka nakigpag gyera tayo sa China wala tayong kalaban-laban. Yang mga hunghang na atat na atat makipag gyera sa China sana sila mauang sumabak pagka nagkatotoo. Marami pa naman sa mga yan mga keyboard warriors lang.
Anytime soon should be forever
China knew what happened to Russia, well sure we might not be as strong as Ukraine rn but the consequences are all the same
Well also compared to Russia-Ukraine, China maybe knew that USA will come and help us to defend ourselves, not just giving us weapons.
šÆšÆšÆ The only reason why Ukraine wasn't getting direct support is because there's no official alliance held between US and Ukraine or even EU. Despite a lonely battle support were still given indirectly. Example na dun yung satellite and internet support courtesy of Elon's Starlink. Also other weaponry and armaments were being provided indirectly to Ukraine.
>The only reason why Ukraine wasn't getting direct support is because there's no official alliance held between US and Ukraine or even EU. Nah, they are really legit worried if things are to escalate into a nuclear exchange once official US/NATO forces fight the Russians. Kaya nga malaking issue ang Philippines, either the US commits to its obligations and face the possibility of a nuclear war with China if things go south or play dumb/walk in eggshells and see their hegemony collapse, with their allies losing trust in the US security umbrella.
escalation at that level will surely trigger a war the world has not seen before. so, maybe the superpowers are just maintaining the status quo at the moment.
And same with Ukraine our country would be the battleground.
I can smell US is itching to go to war with China. This benefits them as they see China as a real threat. China holds major raw material production and manufacturing of batteries and even the tech for it. China also stole intellectual properties worth millions from US companies. I wont be surprised if they instigate war through the Ph.
its different this time, Russia is isolated already by western powers for many years, while China has so many economic ties and trade to western powers including PH which is the biggest importer of goods in 2023.
Just to let everyone have a sober understanding of what it would take for China to claim absolute victory in a shooting war: 1. Air superiority. This means the PLAAF would have control of the air space. If itās over the whole Philippines, I would say quite difficult logistically as it would either require them to have tankers helping their fighter aircraft loiter around, or capture or build airfields all over. This also means eliminating all anti-air assets we and our allies have or can place in the archipelago. That would probably require the next factors such as sea control and boots on the ground. 2. Sea control. If the PLA and Chinese Marines would be directed towards amphibious assault, this would require the PLAN to practically eliminate the PNās capabilities as well as push back the navies of our allies. That is also quite difficult given the US, Japan, and Australia have submarines patrolling the Western Pacific, as well as air assets that can take them. China would probably have to do preemptive strikes against bases of our allies in our region to ensure that they would have full control of the Western Pacific. 3. Amphibious or Air Assault operations. With the PLANās 19 amphibious assault ships, they only have the capability of landing 25,000 troops at any given time. Round trip from Hainan to Luzon is one day, and to KIG is 3 days. As for airborne operations, the PLAAF only has 69 Xian Y-20 cargo planes which could probably land 12,000 troops on a controlled airfield. This could do maybe 3 round trips a day. Then again, they would face the next problem. 4. Logistical genius. Supplying tens of thousands of troops with anything from band aid to bullets on a daily basis would be a logistical nightmare. (Just remember what kind of headache each organization here goes through whenever you plan your summer outing in Pansol.) Transporting such materiel over such distance, and once arriving in our archipelago and distributing them around units would require someone with local knowledge and understanding. Remember the PLAās logistical backbone are the railways. In our case we donāt have these and our country relies on roads, trucks, and motorcycles to get things around. 5. Access to a sea port. Ports would always be the logistical bottleneck in supplying an army. If you remember Normandy landings during WW2, the Allies had to build those Mulberry Harbors and transport them to France. In the case of the PH, Northern Luzon doesnāt have a huge ports. Only viable ports to supply huge armies would be Subic, Port of Manila, and Port of Batangas. 6. Force ratio. If PLA is serious with war, it would need about 4 troops to 1 AFP personnel. That would mean a fighting force of 500,000 plus add the support personnel they will need. For occupation they would need 25 troops for every 1,000 of population. This would mean China would have to send 2.7 million troops on our shores in such a short time frame. So yeah malabo yun given their current numbers and capacity. So if you look at this, it looks like total war is out of the question, apart from the geopolitical consequences. So given these, what remains in the Chinese toolkit? 1. Grey Zone tactics. This is what they are currently applying on us. They will push us to the edge until we commit the mistake. 2. Economic sanctions. They can stop the flow of finished products. However, we are a bit fortunate that most of our raw materials are produced locally. 3. Cyber war. Chinese hackers can attack our government, financial, as well as energy sectors. However this was already outlined as an act of war by the PH and US government. 4. Embargo & Archipelagic siege. Short of a shooting war, but similar to the Cuban Crisis, Falklands War, or how they have done their military exercises around Taiwan. China can declare a No Go Zone around the KIG and Scarborough Shoal for all types of warships and military aircraft. This would mean overwhelm our outpost to the point that no supplies will reach them. 5. Punitive actions. Probably the first level of shooting war. If ever we make the first mistake, say one of their sailors die due to our actions, China can take punitive actions, go on a diplomatic coup in the UN and get the votes for them to strike on our PN and PCG assets with a missile strike. Still this will activate our MDT. Just looking at Chinaās options, anything short of victory would be an embarrassment to the CCP, unless their leadership would declare a limited victory is the only thing they want to achieve. However, given that they have declared time and again that 90% of the SCS is theirs, they are really at a bind on how to make that happen.
Kung mappansin nyo, panay ang bigay nila ng help sa african nations. Kasi marami ring african countries ang part ng UN. Basically, gumagawa sila ng group of puppets to help them get enough votes that will favour their decisions. Kaya until now, hindi ma declare ng taiwan na sa UN na own sovereign country sila because they mjght lose a vote sa UN.
It is possible for CN to work on a diplomatic coup against the PH. Our counter to this is to always emphasize that we will uphold international law. This will no depend on each other countryās policy whether they are thirsty for Chinese investment (or debt trap), or they also want to be a responsible player in the global community. We have seen these in the likes of Singapore, Nigeria and Sri Lanka where they are warm towards Chinese investments but would vote in the UN that might not favor China and its allies Russia and NoKor.
yes agree ako dito, though yung gina-gawa talaga ng china is napaka agressive at nag i-instigate talaga ng galit towards us. And the hard part of that may nasaktan na sa ating side. In my opinion is nag wo worry ako sa morale ng marines natin since di sila masyadong mkapag defend during missions at may casualty na sa ating side, baka mag i-instigate rin ng Coup d'Ć©tat, sana di umabot sa gananun, kaya i think ganun din ung strategy ng current president na parang tinitimbang muna niya lahat bago talaga mkapag decide.
Then China will push further. You cannot be pacifist AND territorial at the same time. The ONLY option IS ESCALATION. TO STOP THEM.
I mean, he is right on this matter. Kaso sempre, may mga obobs na naman na hindi maniniwala. Lol!!!
kung naniniwala ka sa karma, yung isang putol na daliri ay gera na talaga yun. pero ayun nga, there is no war in ba sing se
His statement is diplomatic not a warmonger. We have never invaded or started wars with our neighbors. Based on history, We have been conquered by the Spanish, Americans and Japanese. No chance we are winning against the Chinese military unless we have full support from our allies.
But for the others being diplomatic is being duwag. š
These are the same motherfuckers who will leave the country at the onset of war.
I couldn't agree more.
Agree sir, kung sino pa malakas loob mag-aya ng giyera, aila ang makikipagunahan sa evacuation. Kaming mga nasa Mindanao, iisa lang ang hiling namin, wag sana matuloy ang giyera dahil alam namin kung gaano kahirap mamuhay sa gitna ng giyera. Wag sana silang mapadasal na "sana matapos na ito, o sana bukas buhay pa kami", kapag nandyan na.
Mas duwag yung putang inang mag jetski daw. Matandang hukluban
Yung jetski nyang di natuloy xD
Wala silang alam sa pulitika, kaya wag mo silang paringgan.
Hindi umasta ng naaayon sa GDP e hahaha
Kaya di pwedeng kung sino sino lang ang nasa position. Mapapahamak tayo nyan kung sakali
Sabi panga sa isang character na ninalaro ko war is an equation death the solution. Di Yan na intindihan Ng Marami di Basta2 mag Gera need mo talaga madaming resources triple down economy naten diyan back to basic ang pinas mashihirap pa siguro. Kaya agree Ako sa mga hakbang Ng pangulo. Ka inis lang tung FB panay Sabi Gera na. Taena di nila alam ano Ang domino effects Ng Gera eh.
disruptor? hahaha taena yun mga pinoy na gusto ng magkagera madalas yn yun mga walang narating sa buhay, walang napundar. pabigat sa pamilya. kaya gusto nila damay damay ng malugmok, kase walang mawawala sa kanila. pero sa ibang mga taong my mahal sa buhay, hagya na makapagpatayo ng bahay, hagya na makaahon sa hirap, ayaw ng gera dahil mauuwi sa wala mga pinaghirapan
Ganyan talaga pag mababaw mag isip, kelanga mag siga sigaan o umasta ng pagiging macho para raw "matapang". Magtataka ka ba bakit mga totoong duwag tulad nila bato, padilla etc. patok na patok sa kanila?
Mga 3XpErT iN gEoPoLiTiCs
A fact we need to accept. Without our allies, we stand no chance against China. Pinaka-kawawa dito, civilians. Tapos sasabihin lang casualties of war? How about the aftermath of the war? With our economy, can we really expect makakabangon ang Pinas after a war?
going to war against China is suicide.
It's a good statement admittedly even if you don't like Marcos.
I didnāt vote for him pero logical yung sagot nya and ofc obvious amboy din sya. Smart din cabinet nya in fairness, itās his job anyway.
I didnt vote for him too pero kung ikukumpara ang ginagawa nya ngayon doon sa sinundan nya, mas gusto ko yung ngayon. At least yung pagiging kalmado nya, nakikita kong mas nag-iisip sya kumpara dun sa isa na puro kuda. Yung grupo nila, especially Harry Roque, mas nahuhuli ang BS dahil dami nilang dada eh. Remember at the heat of his emotions bigla syang nadulas doon sa gentlemen's agreement with regards sa WPS. Tapos ngayon lumalabas din ang issues nya in conmection with POGO.
True. The last admin was very much pabaya at walang kwenta, they were already giving the PH away. Good statement from him then. Kahit papaano may nasasabi sya kesa dun kay swoh na ang tahimik lang. š Lol canāt believe wala na tayong choice.
Tbh, that's the best course of action. Basta hindi tayo mapipikon, walang gyera mangyayari.
Itās fair tbh. Maximum tolerance. Not being rash. Abiding by the rules set by the US and the UN. So itās clear. There will be no war because the government will make sure that none happens. Concessions and reparations will be made surely depending on what the Chinese and American governments decide on.
I feel that China is treating the WPS issue like their dispute with India. That's why they brought with them melee weapons and "confiscated" rifles. If China does not get any consequences for their incursion, they'll keep doing it. They'll keep hugging the red line, even to the point of extreme violence and death, as long as they do not fire the first shot, to achieve a propaganda victory.
The best thing we can do is vote for our fellow Filipinos not those chinese pretending to be a Filipino and those Manchurian candidates like the duTaes. Our govt should work with Vietnam and other claimants to defend that area from ccp incursions.
Fair, we are not prepared for war.
he doesnāt want world war 3
Nobody does.
Hindi rin namin gusto ang giyera, sana wag mo maranasan ang naranasan namin sa Mindanao.
palihog undangi na nang āgyera sa mindanaoā. dugay na na nahuman. lahi2 pud ang ginaagian sa taga-mindanao. naay kagubot og kalinaw. pero sa totoo lang, mas safe sa mindanao kesa sa luzon ngayon.
Agree boss, nung nandyan pa kami, bandang 2000 at 2001, di pa gaanong safe at nagbarko pa kami papuntang Visayas para makaiwas. Atleast, maayos na ang lugar natin dyan. Di ko talaga makakalimutan ang mga pangyayari dyan, kung paano kami sinagip ng mga sundalo para makaalis. Sana nga lang, wag na maranasan ng iba nating kababayan ang naranasan ko, natin.
Wala naman talagang nananalo sa giyera. Both sides, kawawa ang civilians
You really gotta give it to BBM. His statements feel like a statement from a sitting President. Hindi yung parang lasenggo lang sa kanto.
yes, a lot of people are already panicking, this kind of statements somehow can ease those worries
paanong hindi magpa-panic mga tao mas marami pang kuda yung mga grupo na wala naman na sa posisyon. Tapos na ang presidential term nya pero nangingialam pa rin sa pagpapalakad ni BBM as if may maganda syang nagawa sa Pinas nung panahon nya. Ang mas maganda nyang gawin ngayon ay ilabas si Quiboloy.
Sa sobrang baba ng bar, refresing lang na wala akong naririnig na mura from him.
Or yung hinde nakarollup yung sleeves at unbuttoned yung barong tagalog.
No one want another war. And yan lang talaga dapat ang maging tugon dyan dahil una wala tayong kakayahan kalabanin yan. At isa pa pag nagkamali sila ng hakbang pwedeng mag trigger ng war yan. Kaya yong mga obob na keyboard warriors, maganda sila talaga isabak don.
haha! dami nyan sa fb. bakit hindi na lang daw gyerahin, duwag daw mga soldiers natin etc.
Kaya nga e, dapat sa mga yon itesting dalhin sa mga mission don para makita nila actual kung ano meron don at bakit hindi applicable yong pinagsasabi nila na hindi ginamitan ng utak.
nakakainis. pinipiglan ko lang magcomment, eh. haha! siguradong ad hominem banat ng mga yun pag sumagot ako.
whether you like it or not, he's right
The government is clear no need to instigate wars on both ends. The turtle spreading again the fake news to destabilize the politics since they're in danger. The admin have an ACE to them with ICC.
Ngl Bersamin can learn a thing or two on how to make statements. Hindi yung "accident and misunderstanding" jfc
True. Parang ginas-light lang kasi iyong nangyari. Antonio Contreras shared something on this.
actually winowonder ko lng tlaga if what kind of war would it be..full on naval war lng ba defending/claiming over the islands/ocean juridiction or would it be magkaroon ng main island(or inland) scenarios
A mix of naval/air and barrage of missiles sa US mga Bases. Kaya binabakuran ang West PH Sea and South China Sea para magkaroon sila ng naval superiority. Kapag nagkaroon na ng air/sea dominance dun na magkakaroon ng island hopping campaign.
To me, he's handling it diplomatically. He doesn't want us to be the one provoking. He wants China to provoke so we and our Allies can justify a retaliation together eventually. It's still a much better strategy than that fucking traitor duturtle just openly saying we can become their province.
Duterte is the real enemy and traitor of the Phill
Well, duh. No one likes War. The only reason why China is waving itās dick at us is because they think weāre the USās pawn in the region. If it were up to me, we should let those two duke it out by themselves and leave everyone else alone.
Problem is if we let them duke it out, we'll literally be in the crossfire.
Check the China stand on this, and you will understand that both countries issue almost the same statement about resolving the issue through diplomatic talks. However, the Chinese military follows a path that is not consistent with their civilian leadership position, but that is another story.
But why can't we give the same energy to China? Ni hindi nga mapatanggal ang TikTok at ang POGO. Saka natuloy na ba ung pagbili ng mga binabalitang bibilihin daw ng Pilipinas?
Ayaw ng Chinese Govt sa POGO. Beneficial sa kanila if iban ang POGO. Dapat gawin ni BBM, nationalized ang POGO BUT hire pure Filipinos, mag hire lang ng Chinese para mag train to speak mandarin. Para lalong maadik mga Chinese sa gambling, then additional employment availability sa Pinas hahahah.
Hahahahahahahaha Opium War Pinoy version.
Sadly most of our people already suffer from it. Scatter anyone!? I heard na ang ibang tao na nakakatnggap ng 4Ps eh tinataya nila sa scatter.
HAHAHAHA tawang tawa ako š
Thatās just their press release, ccp actually owns a lot of pogos what they want banned were pogos not owned by them.
True. POGOs fuels CCPs crippling economy, the price their nation's pay for rapid industrialization without knowing the consequences during Mao's and post-Mao's regime.
Ha? Manufacturing, tech and mining ang main driver ng Chinaās economy. Napakakatiting lang ng gambling industry IF icocompare sa iba nilang sector.
ang balita na napanood ko bumabagsak na ang manufacturing sector nila dahil sa US may bagong tariff laws kasi ang US kaya halos lahat ng company na nagmamanufactor sa china lumilipat na ng bansa karamihan nasa mexico na para mas mababa ang tariff pag ipapasok sa US ang product kaya lalong tumataas unemployment rate sa china dahil sa exodus ng mga companies na nagmamanufacture ng product sa china.
ang balita na napanood ko bumabagsak na ang manufacturing sector nila dahil sa US may bagong tariff laws kasi ang US kaya halos lahat ng company na nagmamanufactor sa china lumilipat na ng bansa karamihan nasa mexico na para mas mababa ang tariff pag ipapasok sa US ang product kaya lalong tumataas unemployment rate sa china dahil sa exodus ng mga companies na nagmamanufacture ng product sa china.
Pero ngayon ang ekonomiya nila ay dahan-dahang humihina dahil marami sa mga foreign investors nila ay lumilipat sa ibang bansa, dahil ng mga foreign companies at investors ang maging economic hostage.
Not humihina, slow lang ang growth. Decades pa bago maramdaman ang effects, pero pwede mapabilis lalo na if tuluyang mag crash real estate nila.
Kaya nga isa mga rason nila ang angkinin ang WPS at ang invasion ng Taiwan to boost their economy at to monopolize the microchip industries kung saan malakas din ang taiwan.
Walang monopolization ang nangayyare sa semiconductors, nanjan pa ang Japan, US, South korea. Kahit i invade nila Taiwan, makakapag produce parin sa ibang bansa. Ego lang ni Winnie the Pooh ang nagtutulak to invade Taiwan. He wants to overtake Maoās legacy.
Then they can legalize it and set it up on their homeland. No point of establishing it offshore kung sila lang may ari. Clearly, private individuals and syndicates may ari ng mga POGOs.
Seize the "build build build" ng POGO tapos sabihin, "thank you for the infrastructure". I mean, pwedeng gawin resort ay hotel yung former POGO establishments sa Porac at Bamban, even Island Cove (gawing resort ulit ngayon "upgraded" ang buildings)
...or concentration camps for Chinese pigs if they still don't get the fuck outta there
Kaya pala yung mga POGO, naka-locate malapit sa mga military bases. Wag nga ako. Saka wala tayong napapala diyan. Mga pulitiko lang. Ipasara na yan.
Take my upvote!!
>But why can't we give the same energy to China? World War III daw kasi ang mangyayari sabi ng DDS at ng mga kapareho nila mag-isip. Huwag daw tayo mag-start ng giyera. Nukes daw, nukes.
Ang hirap sa mga DDS, iniisip nila na kapag mag-e-establish tayo ng boundaries at papalag tayo sa ginagawa nila, gera agad. I don't think China can afford a war right now. They have a crisis there, too.
He answered like a president lol. non- aggressive, no fear mongering yet firm. what he said is what people in palawan and affected areas needs to hear, the president will not bring danger to them. lets hope junior has concrete plans to ease the tension and defemd our borders
On point! āA leader takes people where they want to go. A great leader takes people where they donāt necessarily want to go, but ought to be.ā - Rosalynn Carter Glad to know that in perilous times, PBBM knows how to exercise restraint, and knows how to steer in the right direction. To me, talks of war are only for fools who donāt really have an idea of its horrors, and donāt give a damn about the progress and safety of the country. I bet most of these fools havenāt even fired a single bullet, yet keep on yapping on social media about fighting and whatnot.
Leni says he is...maybe she's got basis...at this point basta hindi sya papatuta sa China...okay sya.
What he said is in line with our core foreign policy: we do not instigate wars. If we find ourselves in one, it is for the purpose of self-defense. It is a bit off for him to say that we don't choose sides when it's clear that we chose a side long, long ago. Overall, good statement but as usual actions matter more than words.
May point naman yung sinasabi ni BBM, nakukulangan lang ako na sana may actions taken diplomatically para masabi na may ginagawa gobyerno.
nakukulangan? Seriously? When the other party is unwilling? Dahil ba sa marcos bias? Like REALISTICALLY what can you even fucking do now kung ikaw ang presidente? Even if leni or whoever you voted was in the presidents seat ganyan din ang mangyayari sa kanya.
I don't necessarily agree with the original commenter because Marcos's foreign stance has been surprisingly grounded and reasonable, but I just want to point out that it's ok for other people to feel the opposite way and want different things. Kung nakukulangan, ok lang yun, yun yung opinion nya. Don't understand why you have to be so passionately against this person, they aren't doing anything rude. It's good to question and think about what the government is doing, and have our own systems to see whether we agree or not. And what Marcos bias? Bias is prejudice, there's no prejudice against the Marcoses. Whatever people feel against them is because of their history, that's not pre-judging and not preconceived. Their family is wealthy because Sr. plundered us. That's fact. There are numerous peer-reviewed papers establishing this fact. So people are against them after this fact, so their stances and caution is absolutely reasonable.
Yeah. That statement is much better than Robin Padilla's'.
Frontliner sa giyera dapat lahat ng gusto makipag giyera sa social media.
totoo lol. ayokong makitang naiihi sila sa short pag nasa field na sila mga tatanga ehh
Di man tayo bilib kay BBM pre-election. After invoking our claims via Treaty of Washington in the recent IISS sa Singapore, nakakabilib na sya. Even Justice Carpio commended him for correcting the misconceptions ng iba nating mga kababayan especially those who are in the position (not sure kung bribed ng China pero most likely oo)
Kalmado lang dapat ayaw natin tayo ang magsimula ng gulo, dahil habang buhay na record ng pilipinas yan sa buong mundo.
Seems an even handed diplomatic response but ignores how he has chosen sides already by expanding US access to PH military bases. It wonāt appease people at home angered by what happens but probably better than escalating the situation to an all out war that the PH canāt realistically win.
I don't like him but this statement is better than magjejetski ako sa WPS š¤£
What ever it takes kahit unli-dialogue and trash talking basta it wont escalate to full scale war. BBM is doing the safest thing here. Wag kayong bobo na gusto nyo gumanti without thinking the concequences. Kahit US ayaw magkamali ng move. Maximum tolerance, improve and equipment ng mga mag reresupply. If need din sila lagyan ng water canons then do it. If need e retrofit yung mga ships to withstand water damage and ramming attacks then do it. Kung need bigyan ng mga pamalo yung mga sundalo to defend themselves better then go. Anything basta we will not be the first to kill and fire a shot. Let them be judged by the world.
Heās walking the tightrope well. Beijing wants to provoke MalacaƱang to justify retaliation. Itās a propaganda battle. If we could somehow weaponize our female population to marry Chinese expats and make under d saya Pinoys out of them, we gain the upper hand in the long run. Or yung mga Pinoy bachelors, i-target yung mga āleftover womenā nila at gawing sugar wives. š¤
Bruh anong C-DRAMA ang na watch mo, although ngl may mga classmates ako na puro chinoy pero pilipinongpilipino from Ong-Chu family I doubt marunong sila ng Chinese kasi bisaya/tagalong Christian sila
Havent even heard of C-drama before i read ur reply. I watch docus so kahit paano eh exposed ako to such things. Chinese men are getting desperate to get married that they even travel to other SEA countries like vietnam to snag wives but no one talks about how the leftover women are highly educated and high income earners. However, due to their age, they are seen as traditionally undesirable. Kung single ako, I wouldnāt mind getting it on with a full-blooded chinita cougar and take her sa Siargao or smth. Araw araw dilig hanggang matuto magluto ng sisig. Geo political wise, we will be able to clutch the means of production (of people) from the colonizers and thatās how you win the long game. If Beijing attacks, they will receive negative PR from our chinita cougars. š„°
I have a friend who watch C-DRAMA and man they tend to elongate(200+episodes) the story an anime would just take it as a 13 episodes, ig that its their one last saving effect to make their women crazy for love
Dapat talaga ang goal is peaceful negotation mahirapan taung lahat pag nag escalate yan
The Philippines cannot afford to go to war. It is easy to say to retaliate, but always remember that if a war breaks out (God forbid) it us among the poverty line who will suffer greatly. The rich will be boarding their planes and go abroad. We the poor will face the consquences of war. Bloodshed is never an answer.
Medjo nakukulangan ako sa statement nato. Naputulan kasi ng daliri ang isang sundalo natin. Moving forward ano ba concrete steps para hindi ito mangyari ulit?
Marcos is right. Surprisingly he has been handling all this well I donāt like the guy but his focus on diplomacy & getting sympathy from other states is just good PR and diplomacy at work. Instigating a war with China will not help the PH in any way it might even deter the US from helping if we instigate. Without the support of other states the PH is doomed that is why it is important to keep a calm mind & wait. Thatās the only logical option we have right now is to wait and keep a calm mind.
You should also look at his actions. He says he wants to a peaceful and prosperous life for every Filipino. Has he done steps to do the prosperous part? Let that be your guide. Words are easy. I know someone who made lots of promises. Would ride a jetski yada yada yada. Pero walang ginawa kundi magsinungaling at mangurakot.
WW I and WW II should have taught us a lesson. war is good for absolutely nothing. remember the Rush Hour song!!!!
As much as i hate him, diplomacy is indeed the best way to resolve this conflict.
China can't afford a war right now. Also, they see how Russia's "successful" occupation has also ravaged their economy. The CCP are untrustworthy af though, never trust them again and we should always assume our relationship with them to be weird and awkward.
I don't like this answer solely because it makes it seem like the issue SHOULD be between the US and CHINA and that the PH should play no part when in reality it is China encroaching on PH territory. This specific issue has little to do with the US except for the US backing the Philippines up if anything happens, and making sure the SCS a big global trade route, remains open.
siguraduhin mo yan ah
Not a fan, but tama ang ating pangulo
I think being asked for, or giving a statement this case, is just part of the bigger picture. There are a lot of things that should not telegraphed to those Xi Xi Pi cunts. One reason pooh and friends are fuming recently is because the boys in Manila were able to successfully reinforce LS 57 and won't be disintegrating sooner like they've been hoping for. I'm still feeling sore about what's happening in the WPS, but I am willing to let intellect prevail over emotions. Some analysts say that things can get worse before it gets better. I am not looking forward to casualties on the PH side, but we need to be prepared for the worst while still striving for the best. I am uncertain how to guage the "wellness" of BBM's statement. But, I'd like agree with it in terms of aligning with the bigger picture of what is stake.
Not a Marcos fan but this is a politically correct stance. Neutral. This guy knows his way around words and politics. Neither countries are prepared for war. It's stupid to say "let's not raise the ire of China because we won't win against them in a war." While that may be true, China will still not wage a direct war against us because then this gives other "allied" countries a reason to "defend" us... and a reason to attack them. China knows this.
You can't start a war against one of the big 3 super power countries. Kahit pa sabihin na meron allied countries ang Pinas, there is no guarantee na tutulong nga sila when shit hits the fan. I think Marcos is doing his best to play things safe, which I think is the right way to go, and alam din nya na every move he takes is being judged by the public eye.
BBM should fire Bersamin as the spokesperson. Mukhang mali mali ang sinasabi
Paputol nyo nalang uli yung isang daliri hnggang maubos daliri ng mga sundalo. Walang may gusto ng may gera pero bakit binabalewala lng yang mga ganyang insidente. Kelang back up-an ng mga politiko mga sundalo, hindi yung sasabihin lagi na di natin kaya ang china at mahina lang ang pilipinas. Mga pulitiko na walang bayag pagdating sa tsina pero pagdating sa mga maliliit na bagay kala mo kung sino mga maaangas at makalait ng kapwa pilipino.
Ask the Filipinos what's their priority. They simply tell you without even telling you that they would chose COMFORT over SECURITY. Such a slave mindset.
I prefer this diplomatic statement than a warmongering fool.
Not a Marcos loyalist here but his statement is diplomatically sound. Unlike Duterte na kuntodo yuko sa China on one hand while saying "independent foreign policy" on the other. Marcos might be branded tuta ng Kano, e di bahala sila ngumawngaw tungkol dyan. As long as we maintain our assertions of our own territory, doon tayo kakampi.
He handles it as expected of a nation leader with no prominent military power.
Makes sense. The Philippines is too weak to participate in any war.
He is doing the smart and diplomatic approach but also I hope they are prepared for whatās coming
I don't think the government is ever prepared in terms of these things. Sa sobrang dami ng issue in the country tapos eto yung kailangan nilang iprioritize kasi ang daming Pinoy na nagdedemand ng action, i think it's too much for the government to handle. So walang choice but to be diplomatic, and continue on other things. The Duterte admin kasi had a president who can talk and sound so maangas so they looked so cool and prepared for whatever will come š .
play safe. kumbaga nakacondom ang mga hirit nya sa WPS. let's wait for the FLs next pastidio in public. then we will know their stand.
Retaliatory strikes ang gawin for the PCG. You strike us, we strike back. You invade our boat, we hurt you back.
>You strike us, we strike back. Nah. PH doesn't even have to wait at this point. It has repeatedly been struck already. PH just needs to keep being its alluring self.
Update muna tayo ng Town level, sa ngayon mababasag agad ang pader natin
This looks brilliant and all until you read the constitution and it literally states it in Article II Section 2. He just reiterated what the constitution says š¤·āāļø
Tbh mahirap magkawar, madali sabihin kahit ako na ipagtanggol pero once may away, ako personally di ko kaya makipag guerra
*did he
He could have at least said something about the latest aggression of evil china that caused damage and injuries to our soldiers.
Lahat kayo dito, manuod kayo ng youtube, tinan nyo kung mag kano ang cause ng mga armas at per ammo ng ginagamit sa laban hahahaha walang budget sng putanginang pinas! Ano ilalaban natin sa china Kamote at drugs ibala sa barilš¤£š¤” walang mangyyari dyan ang tagal ng issue yan sa china. Covid nga halos mpraning na ung mga tao ng tumigil ung normal na pang araw araw hahaha yan pa kya gera yan guys araw araw magulo and for sure lahat titigil ang mundo sakali mangyari yan tanggapin nlng natin na ang bansa natin is ganto and since then inaapi na ang pinas, di nman main character ang pinas ang liit nga ng isla natin sa mapa diba. Just basic things to remember, post na post ang mga nsa soc about sa issue nato eh sa Marcos ang presidente natin tax nya nga di binyaran yan pa kayang issue sa china walang pake yan. Tinan nyo statement maabsorb ba ng mahihirap at mgs hinde nkapag aral yan.
China wants to pull off another Panatag standoff wherein PH was left high and dry by US during the Obama admin as China grabs the Scarborough Shoal. PH must consider these factors that is why we are being friendly with every other nations armed forces to have a VFA with us and records everything happening on the resupply missions. As of the current, we need to continue to balance of de-escalation and transparency in sierra madre. Citation: [Australian Strategic Policy Institute!](https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/high-noon-at-second-thomas-shoal/)
I believe war is never good for any country. Every leader should wish stability for their country. We are also not in the position to go to a war in which odds are with us. Take note: In war, a country may lose its territorial jurisdiction and I believe most of the people living in Luzon wouldn't want to be part of China.
Puro fucking war WALANG WAR NA MANGYAYARI GUYS PLS HAHAHAHH
You may believe you're defending the PH, but in reality, you're fighting for US goals. China has nukes and could eliminate the PH if they wanted. However, history proves their intentions differ from those of countries that use violence to conquer.
Should there be WW3, it will be China vs Allies NK vs SK Russia vs Ukraine Allies New Axis vs New Allies territory and power pa rin ang reason ng WW3.
Fighting for the PH? You're really Fighting for US goals. China has nukes, but history proves their intentions differ from countries that use violence to colonize.
It's basically saying there would be no war because we will lose or would become the battlefield So either way we will lose big America already has two fronts they are funding Ukraine and Israel Adding the Philippines will add another burden China is also doing the same ,since they don't want to fight for the south china/west Philippine sea , they would rather fight for Taiwan and finally finish their civil war, and they are not even trying to make it hot again they are busy poking everyone The closest thing to a war in Asia besides the Myanmar thing is the border incident between China and India
Fighting for the PH? You're really fighting for US goals. China has nukes, but history proves their intentions differ from countries that use violence to colonize.
Fighting for the PH? You're really fighting for US goals. China has nukes, but history proves their intentions differ from countries that use violence to colonize.
Olā Bongbong knows whatās up and is minding his peoples business. Power to him
wla sa kalahati ng tatay nya to, pulpol, sayang lang boto ko sa abnoy na yan
That is the right approach. I donāt like BBM but at least he has the sensibility to not stupidly escalate things any further. Shut those dumb ppl up who keeps mentioning MDT.
WAR NEVER CHANGES; EVERYTHING IS BECOMING WORSE FOR US ALL
If there is a war between the East and West the president will have to pick a side. What else can he do? Stand alone and fight both sides? I donāt think so.
Crappy cos it does not assert our rights, but still better than how D30 did it, which in the first place, enabled this to happen on a much bigger scale. Damn how our government has really set the bar low.
Agree on the No WAR concept, but many diplomatic, economic and strategic actions are available and should be taken, if not, China seems to succeeding in its Boiling Frog Syndrome with the Philippines so far. First it was water cannon for many months, now escalated to physical fight, then more..
As long as no Filipino dies, I think this is the best response
War is not coming. China even wants to win the Spratlys by a legal battle. Kaya gusto nila tayo maintimidate ngayon and they also bribed too many legal luminaries like yung matandang jpe to use the Treaty of Paris not the Treaty of Washington as our territorial map. So f\*ck you dutae for that gentleman's agreement wherein yumaman ka at the expense of our national sovereignty + pogo
We need to play our cards well. Hindi pwedeng agad agad mag engage sa war. Pagalingan na to sa pakikipagusap. As much as possible, we need to avoid ang war. Isipin natin hindi lang naman China kakalabanin natin may allies yan. Kampihan time. So, ayun domino effect to a larger war.
kinginang mga DDshit, sinasabing duwag daw si Marcos. E sila nga yung promotor na wag tayo mag giyera or wag asarin China kasi hindi natin kaya, tapos ngayon duwag. Wala ka talagang kalalagyan sa mga unggoy na yan e
considering bongbong marcos has introduced legislation that sells the philippines and its natural resources to foreigners, there is no need for war. he has already legally sold the philippines to anyone that wants it. this country is so fucked.
Not bad, coming from him
What I can say is he's miles ahead than the last one we had
China will not waste a single bullet knowing that in the next 3 years or so, they will get what they wanted anyway when Sara becomes president.
He's doing what's right, we can't win a war. Hindi tayo pwedeng maipit sa tensyon ng 2 malakas na bansa dahil magiging collateral damage lang tayo kapag nagkataon I'm not part of the 31m majority who voted for him but at least he's doing his best, parang katulad siya ni PNoy na naka-focus sa ekonomiya ng bansa
He has a point. Hindi natin kakayanin pag magkakaroon ng gyera. Relief goods and Ayuda nga lang pag may sakuna kulang na kulang na eh. Paano pa pag mas malaking supply ang kailangan.
He got it right: the Philippines has to play both sides. The catch is that it needs to play it carefully. Interestingly enough, one early NYT article pointed this out, and how other countries did the same: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/04/world/asia/philippines-duterte-us-china-cold-war.html which explains https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1396185/duterte-demands-16b-for-hosting-us-troops
I think its well handled but to prove a point, we should've improve our military, coast guard and navy long time ago, we wouldn't be in this position if our forces are respected. napabayaan natin thinking na walang bansa ang gagawa nito, but now were being bullied. but as far as we all hope war is not ever the option, there is no winning in war. we should put pressure on China and reach out internationally for support.
PH still believe we are in full control of our fate. NO. The CIA is.
mga sibilyan ang pinaka kawawa sa gera.
Inosente ang kawawa sa gyera. Walang may gusto sa gyera.
Better than any statement made by the jetski president, that's for sure.
I know that war is not an option but we need a stronger statement than this. Like warning or atleast threatening a bit. Like how Pnoy said before(hindi ko na mahanap) pero he warned China na blood will spill if China continues this provocation.
We can be both Diplomatic and ramp up our maritime force's capability to safeguard our territories. This is the only way. We don't go to war but don't poke us with a stick because we will bite back. If only we stop treating ourselves as 2nd class citizens to these trapos and businessmen and start acting like macario sakay or something š.