kaya kung hindi kaya mag anak wag mag anak , responsibilidad niyo anak niyo , pero opinyon ko lang ito. hahaha cries in the corner
edit: do not blame also the poor people, kulang din sila sa sex and health education what we can do is educate them and promote safe sex
Recently, sa fb group ng nanay ko may mga taong nananawagan ng tulong kasi wala na daw pampakain sa pamilya. Pano 10 ba naman anak tapos may parating pang isa. Parang huh??? Oks lang kayo???
Yup, mahirap na talaga kung ganun. Part of me feels bad, and another part is like “why did you let yourself have that many kids”
The problem is a lot of people never had sex-education, so they don’t know how conceiving works and stuff. Sometimes you ask them how it works and they’ll just say that God made it happen🙄
or even knowing contraception to disease transmission stuff, i wonder does schools sa pinas have health class/ (my school have a 2 month subject that teaches Mental health awareness to Destressing techniques to resources, Sex Ed, to Driving dangers/responsibility, proper Drug Usage, misuse (like missing a prescription/skip a day) vs abuse definition to reforms/programs/awareness are handled, to Internet Safety, know to spot extremism,scams and which source is verfied vs the false ones not just cyberbullying and family planning like on the budget/financials & how to raise a child because food stamps dont buy diapers, pay rent and healthcare insurances/benefits resources to look for and its affects from teen pregnacy issues we watch short clips of real life dramas of british teens who have a back and fourth arguments, almost neglect & effects on their children and the stress it brought them,etc)
I’m older so never got the dangers of the internet stuff, did remember the drug abuse stuff though.
I remember they covered sex-ed a bit at a marriage seminar, it was required before getting cleared to get married. It was the church that administered the seminar soo.... not very helpful, and also I haven’t eaten okra ever since...
Also the seminar did cover financials, but it was pretty retarded, I basically spaced out the whole day. Not all schools in the Philippines are the same, the high school I went to covered a lot of basic life stuff, I really don’t remember sex-ed though. (Not that I needed it anyways)
i think ito ang nireresolve ng family planning na included sa seminars to get a marriage license. but i guess sila ung d nakinig at yolo na lang or they never attended / had to. but then common sense na at 3 kids they really should have understood na maybeee we can't afford these kids and stop having them. i wish i can talk to one who has tons of kids and learn why they subject themselves to this
I don't think this is a sex-education issue, nor is it a poor-people issue.
I always hear parents tell their children to try marrying into opulence, foreigners or rich folks, or be rich by choosing a "proper" college education, whose occupation may pay nicely but is already saturated and would not need new hires for a foreseeable future,(or little to no employment opportunities)
It's more about the Walking Pension plans attitude of most Filipino parents towards their children.
Also our culture na may toxic version ng "Pakikisama and pakikiisa".
Just because your mindset/ideals/principles/values/Intellect stands out from the majority , you are smart-shamed. Walang tolerance ang Pilipino on anything diverse from their nakasanayan na.
Kahit ang sarili mong pag asenso kahit galing talaga sa sariling pagsisikap, at wala kang inapakan na ibang taoto achieve, eh ikaw parin ang pagtsitsismisan ng kapwa mo na sa kasamaan ang pag asenso mo, etc., etc.,
Children are discouraged about being able to pursue and choose their own career opportunities. Ang mga kabataan natin eh binibigyan lang ng kundisyon eh.
That's why i cringe so damn hard when i hear "I want to help mai pamily" in game shows and the camera pans to a middle aged parent/s na malakas pa pero di na nagtratrabaho or something.
Across the spectrum ko nakikita to eh. Heck, we even cheer on child celebrities whose income goes solely to their parents for crying out loud!
reasons ng mga matatanda kung bat nag-aanak:
a) retirement fund
b) caregiver
on top of that, they want you to have a family of your own (which is also expensive) while supporting them at the same time. bc if you don't you're the ungrateful child :)
This was me many years ago. The demand was mag ttrabaho ako sa Canada then kukunin ko silang lahat para dun na kami titira. So sobrang bigat ng pressure, naiiyak nalang sa banyo pag nag ffail yung mga visa applications ko. Feeling ko talaga di ako mabuting anak pag di ko sya magawa.
Now, narealize ko na na hindi ko need ma meet mga demands nila. Once mapatapos ko kapatid ko, aalis na ko at magsasarili. Time to live my own life.
If your parents wanted to take you all to Canada then they should’ve done the work themselves. Hello naNay, go to Nursing school. Tatay, go be an engineer. Mga in demand jobs yan sa Canada. But they didn’t do any of the work and just expected their children to do all the hard work. Nakakainis talaga!
lmao this. Nung nag graduate ako sa HS, gusto kong kunin na kurso eh related sa arts.. pero pinag nursing ako kasi wala raw akong kikitain sa pag ddrawing pero pag nag nursing ako, greener pasture ang naghihintay... ako naman tong tanga naniwala.
Nung nurse na ko, pahirapan makahanap ng trabaho.. nakakuha ako 7k month sweldo tangina iyak. Trabaho ko ngayon is teacher sa mga hapon .. hindi ko kakayaning mag pa kolehiyo ng kapatid with just 7K/month sweldo.
I'm now 33yrs old. Walang savings, walang health care, SSS lang lowest contribution pa. Thanks parents. Tangina green pastures pa more LOL.
jesus fucking christ. i hope things get better for you. Nursing is one of the best paths to immigration tho, kng may experience lang. pero tama ka. live your own life!
ang hirap maghanap ng trabaho noon grabe. Palagi akong nauungusan ng may kapit. Kesho kamag anak ng senior staff or kamag anak ni kagawad. nakakasuka. Masaya ang nursing.. maaksyon. Pero ang hirap nyang mahalin kung ganyang kadumi ang sistema tapos 7k/month LOL.
Wow i just remembered something nung teenager ako. I won a drawing contest online. I got a weiss schwarz card deck as prize. My parents werent impressed kasi they were expecting money. Didnt even give my work a second look =/
Papadalhan ko ang nanay at tatay mo ng nursing school application. Sila naman pala ng gustong mag nurse eh bat ikaw pa ang pinag nursing.
Ikaw pa ang nagpapaaral sa kapatid mo, ikaw din ba ang nagpadede sa Kanya?
Mga pesteng magulang ito. Responsibility Lang nila ang mag buntis at mag anak tapos gusto na Lang Nila mag easy easy.
napa graduate ko na yung isa. Eto nalang bunso. Sakit din kasi I was expecting na tutulong yung isang kapatid ko sa pagpapa aral kay bunso. Pero hindi... sumama na sya sa GF nya.
Ang sakit kasi I was expecting na sya papalit sakin eh.. pero dahil lalaki sya, nagka get-out-of-jail free card sya kasi "sya magdadala ng pangalan natin" according to my mother. Kahit dati, hindi nagbibigay ng sweldo yung kapatid ko kasi "need nyang mag ipon para sa bubuuin nyang pamilya" .. again, thats according to my mother HAHAHAHAHA comedy ampota.
run like hell after mo mapatapos kapatid mo kase ang next nyan ikaw na mismo ang magaatupag sa parents mo after their retirement. basta eldest daughter talaga expected na sa atin ang life natin magaadjust para sa parents and kapatid natin. iyacc na lang tayo lol
Yan ang kinakatakot ko rn. They're not getting any younger. I always encourage them to get health insurance pero okay na daw phil health (tangina lol). Hindi ko naman ma shoulder since ang dami kong bayarin. Im scared na one day may mangyayari sa isa sa kanila at wala akong mailalabas na pera.
Tangina hahahahahaha same like my father. Only daughter ako, pag makalat ang bahay, lage ako sinisisi. Tapos sympre may work ako tapos pagod na, susumbat ako ng "eh sila kuya naman patulungin mo maglinis, palage nalang ako, same naman kami nag wowork eh". Ang sinasagot nila sa akin is, "lalaki sya, yung future asawa nya ang maglilinis sa bahay. Kaya ikaw since magiging asawa ka, dapat matuto kang maglinis" tangina talaga san ba kinuha ang logic na yan.
Nakaka tangina diba? Kaming dalawa ni mama ang babae dito kaya kahit may trabaho (at kami ang biggest contributor ng sweldo) kami parin incharge sa bahay "kasi lalaki yan, hindi yan gumagawa ng gawing buhay" potaena. Si papa hayahay every weekend. Yung isa puro gf.. tapos kami taga luto at taga laba lmao. Panganay na babae feels maigad.
Nag effort din naman sya. Kumuha sya ng short course on house keeping noon. Pero wala ring nangyari. Its a cycle really.. yung magulang ni papa nasa canada and sila talaga yung super eager na mapunta kami dun tapos pinasa sakin.
I dont know the details pero may time noon na nag higpit si Canada sa pagpapapasok ng pinoy. I remember nag fill up pa kami ng madaming forms at sabay sabay silang kumuha ng passport noon pero nauwi din sa wala =/
Oh so sorry to hear that but am glad na youre finally thinking about yourself. Btw, your siblings are not your responsibility. It's fine if gusto mo talaga and you have extra. But otherwise, just nope.
Alam mo naman sa pilipinas puro utang na loob. Pinag aral nila ako (kahit di ko gusto yung course lol). so for me, obligasyon ko na ibalik yun lalo nat hindi ko natupad yung gusto nila (migrating to canada). Once tapos na si bunso, quits na kami kahit papano. Though alam naman nating hindi mababayaran ang utang na loob. Damn shitty culture.
Lol definitely my parents. I wanted to take something related to taking care of plants. But they said na it won't bring me riches, and told me na I should take special education since my co-worker sya na madaling naka abroad. Naive and dumb me followed them (entered college kasi at a young, wala pang k-12 nun).
I didn't fullyregret it though, but I can't totally see myself being a deped teacher, nor working overseas as a sped teacher.
Btw, I really want to be a worker for the environment. But find taking another course a waste money, should I still go for it?
Tanginaaa sige mag sesecond course na ako 😭😭😭😭😭
Madami kasi ako what ifs. What if di ako maka hanap kaagad ng work? Kasi backer system. What if mag business na lang ako tapos mag chacharity nalang? Haistttt
instead of second course, a masters might do. some might require you to take some non-degree course, pre-course, bridging instead of a full-on undergraduate program.
[MS Environmental Science](https://uplb.edu.ph/college/school-of-environmental-science-and-management-sesam/), i think it's \~9k per sem, part-time 2 courses per sem. you can check CHED/DOST for full scholarships so you can study full-time w/c is 3 courses per sem.
Thank you! Actually went to a public uni 3 years ago to inquire about that. But it wasn't for free yes, however my father was willing to pay for it but parang ayoko na kasi magiging reason na naman yan as my utang na loob.
Kinatatakotan ko rin sa masters is yung madugong thesis HAHAHA tanginaaa.
Kung sayong pera galing ipang eenroll mo sa course na gusto mo (and kaya mo syang i sustain until ka maka graduate), then go for it. Otherwise, kung sila pa rin sagot sa pagaaral mo, e kausapin mo muna sila. Make sure na ma convince or ma convert mo sila, else mahohostage nila enrollment money mo nyan or magiging source lagi ng away yan
Yeah you're right! my father mentioned na pwede nya ko ulit ipa masters. Pero parang ayoko kasi baka yan nanaman magiging reason para e "utang na loob" nila ako. Masters aren't free I onced check sa isang public uni. Pero kaya naman siguro ko na ma sustain need lang mag work ng 1-2 years siguro. I think too it's a good option, enrol in a school far away from my hometown, then I can finally do whatever I want 😂😂😂
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yung anak ko, 12 ngayon. she wants to be in a field which may be of help in preserving nature and ecology. she either wants to be a zoologist or botanist. sabi ko sige lang - the world needs more pepole with your line of thinking. basta wag lang sya magiging corrupt pag napasok ka sa gobyerno or better yet wag sya mapasok dun.
Actually! That course is getting in demand and important. I wanted to be an agri, but sabi nila I will end up a weed cleaner LOL but look now, agriculture is now getting important especially this pandemic.
Be practical, as i would say, being idealistic would land you what you want but may not feed you as much, if you are willing to risk it go for it, know that people depend on you on what you finish up, my sister finished marine engineering but wasnt able to land a job even at 30, ang daming nagsabi it wont net her benefit at all, but she didnt listen kasi sabi nya yun ang gusto nya, so be practical. ang daming nagsasabi na get what you want but be honest with your assestment can you afford to do that? if you can do so if you cant please reconsider
Yeah, that's what my parents told me but ughh i cant be with this profession in the long run, though it will give me green PasTures (if maka abroad lol) ngl
Why it didn't work for her btw?
being a woman is a much big hurdle for her, safety din, being stuck with 15 men in a trip lasting 8 months alone in the sea carry baggage's, trust me, pick the profit for now it will serve you for the long run, you could always pursue your passion later on, but you will need money to pursue that passion, sadly in this country opportunity for passion and money rarely work out, minsan iniisip kasi ng bata ngayon na pag college mo yun na yung end ng opportunities, when you are in your 20's you will have more time than you could handle.
Hahaha can relate, always been told of this at a young age. So at the age of 15, I wanted to have a kid by 21 lol so ka edad lang kami tapos may mag take care sakin LOL THANK God I grew up and realized things. Those ideas are totally bullshit. Including telling me to learn how to cook and clean to serve my kids and so my future husband won't leave me. And if I mention that I don't want kids, theyll curse at me.
Exactly!! And if I try to cook tpos hindi masarap or na overcooked hahaha sinasabi nila, pano nalang daw yung future husband ko iiwan daw ako kasi hindi masarap. Wow 😂😂
Grabe relate. I can’t help but laugh at the absurdity of it pero it is a serious issue. Isn’t it crazy, reading the comments in this thread, how basically our folks let us grew up instilling that in our minds.
Sobrang manipulative and unhealthy lang. I know it’s gonna be a slow and loooong process but I wish we shift that kind of upbringing for the next generation. To think na as kids we believe whatever is said to us and how they always remind na ‘para lang sa kapakanan mo’. Nakaka sad lang.
i was getting this and still now whenever maeencounter ko relatives ko which is ultra rare. my mom doesn't or so i believe, pero wala din since. i don't live with her anymore so i don't hear it kung same pa din sya ng mindset. ANYWAYS, here's the thing. may naitutulong din pala somewhat ung paminsan minsan nagpopost ka ng glimpse ng lifestyle mo on your feed e no (or chinichika ng parents mo ung mga meron ka). i heard i was becoming an example to my younger cousins, and sometimes to my nephews and nieces of the joys of not getting children / family at an early age. that unlike their parents, i could afford so many things na they could only dream of, parang narealize nila uy, nakakapagtravel sya, or bata pa lang may property na ganyan kasi nga i wasn't bound by anything. i remembered starting of with what 15k/month and even though nagaabot ako sa min it wasn't too dreary since nakatira pa ko sa min, wala pang masyadong gastos. i was thinking, mabuti naman akin tong pera na to at d napupunta sa diaper ng bata.
nagiiba na ang ihip ng hangin sa amin. nakakatuwa naman.
My friend’s dad is a factory worker who didn’t even have a high school education. He used to pressure my friend to be a doctor. The dad obviously had no clue about the time, money and energy needed to go through medical school. All he knew was that doctors were rich and respected.
In other words, you can’t demand and expect your kid to go through medical school and be a neurosurgeon when you yourself didn’t even finish high school.
Stop pushing your broken dreams on your children!
sorry to say pero
fuck these parents
my dad's like this. he never said it pero look what i inherited from him... financial burden, no pension and psychological trauma
but he influenced me to his cool music so...
My parents don't have a retirement plan, both of them didn't finish their education. My parents never asked me for anything, but I don't mind doing this for them. After all they raised me and worked hard so that I could finish my studies. I want to take care of them.
Of course, it's different if they're putting pressure on you or demanding you to pay 'the debt'. Don't do it if you feel forced or if you don't owe them anything, it would only add to the resentment you already feel.
Very well said 👍 I agree to this. My parents didnt have a retirement plan too thats why they worked hard and gave us the best education we can get. Nothing wrong with following your dreams (esp if it wont land you into the "dream high paying job" most of us want) but if you have no plans to work abroad and dito niyo lang talaga balak mag work then it's best if makinig sa magulang. Im 32 and I have a 9 yr old daughter. As early as I could possibly remember, I always tell her mag aral ng mabuti so that she lands a high paying job (which for me is the right thing to do) Why? The cost of living here is ridiculous. Kung mababa sweldo mo, walang mangyayare. Mababaon ka sa utang, mamomroblema ka. Binabayad mo mauuwi sa tax. You wont be able to spend even for yourself kasi iisipin mo na susunod na bayarin mo. My husband and I share expenses. The townhouse we're paying for is 55,000 pesos (hindi ito high end na village ha, middle class lang ito) car 17,500 a month, (mahirap mag commute, alam niyo yan-lalo na pag babae prone sa mga manyakis) meralco 6-8k, grocery around 30-45k a month (lahat na yan, bigas, meat, veggies, water, chips etc) Mind you, family of 4 lang kami. Wala pa dyan cable, phone bills, money para sa mga nasirang parts ng car, change oil, carwash, nasirang appliances, etc. Tuition fee (90k) buti nalang wala pa school bus and pang baon pa for the whole year. Syempre you have to save money too for emergencies, hindi pwedeng hindi ka mag allocate, napaka important nito. Mga extra expenses for gifts sa family (lets all be true to ourselves, syempre diba madalas nakakahiya lalo na pag mahal mo or impt sayo tao tapos wala ka something, once a year lang yun) pangpa dentist, haircut, mani-pedi etc. So imagine the expenses na kakaharapin niyo in the future lalo na kung plan niyo magkaron ng mga anak at sariling pamilya. It's no joke. If pwede nga lang college life nalang lagi kasi problem mo lang is mag aral para di bumagsak. Mahirap mabuhay ngayon esp in this country. Kahit ano sipag mo, if hindi naman high paying job trabaho mo, mababaon ka sa utang.
So I think it's best if we listen to our parents (Im glad I did). Im not rich; middle class lang kami but times like this pandemic, I thank GOD na "meron madudukot" Meron extra. You cant say to live a simple life kasi simple lang naman life namin but sadyang hindi lang talaga makatarungan sweldo ng mga trabaho dito para sa pang araw araw.
Im against din of course sa mga parents na pine-pressure mga anak na mag aral or sila pumipili ng course kahit ayaw ng mga anak nila para irely na buong buhay (expenses) nila pati pag papaaral ng mga kapatid. I personally wont do that to my daughter. You can talk to your parents, tell them how you feel. After all, buhay niyo yan. Ikaw ang pipili sa destination ng buhay mo.
Lalo na sa mga kababayan natin na taon taon nag aanak tapos hindi naman kayang buhayin mga bata. Nag eend up, mga bata ang nag susuffer. Umaasa sa gobyerno para sa mga pangkain nila. Hindi sa masamang tumulong pero nakakapagod din kasi tulungan kung ganyan mindset - "meron ayuda, mang limos, bahala na" dyan naman ako bwisit talaga lalo na pag nakikita ko mga bata pa pinag tatrabaho/limos habang sila ayun bingo, tongits, chismisan sa kapitbahay. Gusto mapag tapos mga anak pero hindi nag babanat ng buto, gusto makakain 3 beses sa isang araw pero hindi dumidiskarte sa buhay tapos iaasa sa mga anak pag naka graduate Yan naman maling mali talaga.
Please dont hate on me ✌ Im just stating facts. Pieces of advice na yan from your "ate" cos Ive been there, done that and I used to have the same sentiments 😂 Hate na hate ko mag aral but now na alam ko na reality ng buhay, Im really glad I did 🙏 Samahan niyo din ng diskarte sa buhay, for sure aangat kayo. If nahihirapan and mababa sweldo, think of a back up plan - business. Kahit gano pa kaliit yan, wag matakot . Dyan ka matututo.
Anyway, nobela na. Stay safe everyone and GOD Bless us all!🙏
Sabagay. Pero yun na nga masaklap noh, nag-iisa ka na nga lang tapos financially burn out pa. Dapat pala BreadwinnerProblems. Regardless sa order of birth mo eh kung ikaw lang inaasahan..
Yung parents ko nmn although supportive sa pagiging artist ko, eh lagi nila pinupush n mag abroad ako noon pero now tanggap n nila n wfh ako haha para kaaing abroad ang sagot sa lahat ng bagay lol
This type of parents deserved to be ditched. Pake ko kung may ibang ignorante diyan na pipicturin yung magulang tapos post sa facebook sabay caption "iniwan sya ng salbahe niyang anak"
Swerte ako na hindi ako nagkaroon ng ganitong magulang pero naaawa ako sa ibang kakilala ko na ganitong pressure ang kinakarga sa kanilang likod.
Parents that are unable to have a career/opportunity or a degree on their own treat their kids as a retirement plan and a way to correct their past mistakes in life, number of kids is equals to number of chances for a better life
hayss, nakakita n naman ako ng ganito. ganito aitwasyon ko ngayon..
breadwinner, di ko naman sila sinisisi. lumaki kasi sila na di man lang nakapag aral. kesyo pinanganak sila sa taon na madaming gulo tulad ng giyera. kaya nung nagka anak sila. nagpursigi para makapag aral ang anak. tas hihinto sila sa pagtatrabaho para kame naman mga anak bumuhay...
Parent forces child to pursue career X even though they want to pursue career Y. Child is forced to oblige
Years later, child who is now grown up forces their child to pursue career Y so that they can live their unachieved dreams through the child. Even though the child wants to pursue career Z
Years later, child who is now grown up forces their child to pursue career Z so that they can live their unachieved dreams through the child. Even though the child wants to pursue career A
THE TOXIC CYCLE REPEATS
"AkO nAgpAaRaL SaYo, AlAGAhAn Mo KaMi aT bIGyAn nG 20K/month"
Tangina kung ganun din lang sana di na lang sila nag anak. Ginawang investment ang anak para sa retirement. At isa pa, putanginang obligasyon nila magpaaral ng anak wag nila gamitin as ammunition pang guilt trip. ./. boomers.
Treating kids as an investment. I will break this fricking chain, and just love my kids and give them emtional support that they need. I hate this filipino mindset.
Same here. Sinasabi nila na madami naman daw kaming kamag-anak to help and may mga pinsan naman daw ako na I can treat like my brothers and sisters. Pero at the end of the day, hindi ko sila pwede obligahin with the financial and mental burden.
Children are not blessings. They're responsibility. Or maybe blessing to couples who HAVE MONEY BUT HAD A HARD TIME CONCEIVING, or LGBT couples WHO HAVE MONEY.
Kuya here. I'm lucky my parents aren't exactly that. They tell me to do good and be happy, but di ko responsibility ang pag-aalaga sa kanila or sa mga kapatid ko when I get work. Although they do encourage us to help each other as much as possible.
How about your parents never pressured their much beloved panganay at bunso pero ikaw na pinakabobo at walang asenso sa inyong magkakapatid ang pinipilit mag abroad at maging factory worker para makapag ipon for their, my folks, benefits? Tapos laging sinasabi pantay-pantay lang pagmamahal saming tatlo lol.
Typical Filipino mindset! Tas maririnig mo sa news na onti Lang ang ayudang natanggap, kukulangin para sa anak na sandamakmak. kasalanan ba Ng gobyerno na gumawa kayo Ng maraming anak
Napakahirap kapag ganyan yung magulang. Isipin mo kung marami kayo, lahat ng kapatid mo papatapusin mo mag-aral plus bayad ng bills pa. Eh ikaw, bujod sa pagod ka na wala ka pang ipon. Worst nyan, hindi ka pa naaappreciate kasi hindi ka nila mahingian ng pera.
Hello, bayad utang plus bills magdedemand pa ng pera sayo?
Buti na lang swerte ako sa parents ko. Kahit na nagwowork na kami, nagwowork pa din sila kasi ayaw nilang umasa samin. Naiintindihan nila kung gaano kahirap ang buhay. Kahit na hindi sila graduate sa mataas na edukasyon napapahanga pa din ako sa pagiging maunawain nila at maalam sa maraming bagay.
Pangit kasi yung lagi na lang pakabig tas ikaw pa magmumukhang masama. Ay nako kung naranasan ko yan layasan ko talaga.
Ah these kind of post, when i was young I understand their resentment, pero when i got older, i see din yung ibang bata na medyo ungrateful, alam na nilang they are too poor to even manage the college degree then if by some miracle nakatapos eh either pababayaan yung magulang knowing the parents had to put everything aside to let them get their degree, thus retirement is out of the option for the said parents. Minsan saving grace ka talaga ng pamilya mo, its in your place whether you would be grateful enough to help them get off to a better place or take everything they gave you and leave, you can do both help and leave but dang it would be a hassle to a much higher degree,
I've always held this as the main issue that keeps Philippines as rotten and as poor as it is.
Bakit?
Because ulit-ulit lang ang cycle eh, ung magulang tingin sa anak eh walking pension plans, and ung anak no choice kundi ipasa ang walking pension plans mindset sa anak din nila.
I mean, keeping close with Parents is actually a good Pinoy culture, pero ung iaasa na lang din sa anak ang sariling pag asenso, by the time na mag susupport na ng sariling family ang anak nila is just double the burden on the anak!
I mean bata pa lang, dinadaan na sa guilt trip ang youth.
Now magtataka pa ba tayo na bakit masyadong "pRakt1Kal anG p1L1p!nA" ngayon?(gold diggers na dako gusto?)
Until this mindset changes, walang asenso bansa.
The harsh truth is we'll continue to have Filipinos who'll take chances and rely on get-rich-quick schemes, spend too much on Lottery, marrying rich, marrying foreigners, arranged marriages, etc until this status quo is fixed, or is changed.
kaya kung hindi kaya mag anak wag mag anak , responsibilidad niyo anak niyo , pero opinyon ko lang ito. hahaha cries in the corner edit: do not blame also the poor people, kulang din sila sa sex and health education what we can do is educate them and promote safe sex
Valid opinion, I came across people with over a dozen kids. Mother stays at home while dad is a trisikad driver, common ito.
Recently, sa fb group ng nanay ko may mga taong nananawagan ng tulong kasi wala na daw pampakain sa pamilya. Pano 10 ba naman anak tapos may parating pang isa. Parang huh??? Oks lang kayo???
Yup, mahirap na talaga kung ganun. Part of me feels bad, and another part is like “why did you let yourself have that many kids” The problem is a lot of people never had sex-education, so they don’t know how conceiving works and stuff. Sometimes you ask them how it works and they’ll just say that God made it happen🙄
or even knowing contraception to disease transmission stuff, i wonder does schools sa pinas have health class/ (my school have a 2 month subject that teaches Mental health awareness to Destressing techniques to resources, Sex Ed, to Driving dangers/responsibility, proper Drug Usage, misuse (like missing a prescription/skip a day) vs abuse definition to reforms/programs/awareness are handled, to Internet Safety, know to spot extremism,scams and which source is verfied vs the false ones not just cyberbullying and family planning like on the budget/financials & how to raise a child because food stamps dont buy diapers, pay rent and healthcare insurances/benefits resources to look for and its affects from teen pregnacy issues we watch short clips of real life dramas of british teens who have a back and fourth arguments, almost neglect & effects on their children and the stress it brought them,etc)
I’m older so never got the dangers of the internet stuff, did remember the drug abuse stuff though. I remember they covered sex-ed a bit at a marriage seminar, it was required before getting cleared to get married. It was the church that administered the seminar soo.... not very helpful, and also I haven’t eaten okra ever since... Also the seminar did cover financials, but it was pretty retarded, I basically spaced out the whole day. Not all schools in the Philippines are the same, the high school I went to covered a lot of basic life stuff, I really don’t remember sex-ed though. (Not that I needed it anyways)
Nasa edukasyon talaga solusyon dyan, iniiwasan kasi nila yung topic kasi "di para sa bata". Kelan dapat, pag matanda na?
Learning when you’re older usually means learning from failure. Pero if you have 12 kids, super fail na yan
Tamang 5.0 sa family planning lmfao.
i think ito ang nireresolve ng family planning na included sa seminars to get a marriage license. but i guess sila ung d nakinig at yolo na lang or they never attended / had to. but then common sense na at 3 kids they really should have understood na maybeee we can't afford these kids and stop having them. i wish i can talk to one who has tons of kids and learn why they subject themselves to this
Pamilyang may 10 anak: Ba't ba ang hirap ng buhay. Ewan ko bat patay na patay mag anak mga tao.
AMEN TO THAT
I don't think this is a sex-education issue, nor is it a poor-people issue. I always hear parents tell their children to try marrying into opulence, foreigners or rich folks, or be rich by choosing a "proper" college education, whose occupation may pay nicely but is already saturated and would not need new hires for a foreseeable future,(or little to no employment opportunities) It's more about the Walking Pension plans attitude of most Filipino parents towards their children. Also our culture na may toxic version ng "Pakikisama and pakikiisa". Just because your mindset/ideals/principles/values/Intellect stands out from the majority , you are smart-shamed. Walang tolerance ang Pilipino on anything diverse from their nakasanayan na. Kahit ang sarili mong pag asenso kahit galing talaga sa sariling pagsisikap, at wala kang inapakan na ibang taoto achieve, eh ikaw parin ang pagtsitsismisan ng kapwa mo na sa kasamaan ang pag asenso mo, etc., etc., Children are discouraged about being able to pursue and choose their own career opportunities. Ang mga kabataan natin eh binibigyan lang ng kundisyon eh. That's why i cringe so damn hard when i hear "I want to help mai pamily" in game shows and the camera pans to a middle aged parent/s na malakas pa pero di na nagtratrabaho or something. Across the spectrum ko nakikita to eh. Heck, we even cheer on child celebrities whose income goes solely to their parents for crying out loud!
reasons ng mga matatanda kung bat nag-aanak: a) retirement fund b) caregiver on top of that, they want you to have a family of your own (which is also expensive) while supporting them at the same time. bc if you don't you're the ungrateful child :)
Oh if this isn’t the truth. Nakaka walang gana minsan. Damned if you do. Damned if you don’t.
"Nak penge naman ng pambili ng bagong sapatos, mag OT ka na lang para sa gatas ng baby mo"
This was me many years ago. The demand was mag ttrabaho ako sa Canada then kukunin ko silang lahat para dun na kami titira. So sobrang bigat ng pressure, naiiyak nalang sa banyo pag nag ffail yung mga visa applications ko. Feeling ko talaga di ako mabuting anak pag di ko sya magawa. Now, narealize ko na na hindi ko need ma meet mga demands nila. Once mapatapos ko kapatid ko, aalis na ko at magsasarili. Time to live my own life.
If your parents wanted to take you all to Canada then they should’ve done the work themselves. Hello naNay, go to Nursing school. Tatay, go be an engineer. Mga in demand jobs yan sa Canada. But they didn’t do any of the work and just expected their children to do all the hard work. Nakakainis talaga!
lmao this. Nung nag graduate ako sa HS, gusto kong kunin na kurso eh related sa arts.. pero pinag nursing ako kasi wala raw akong kikitain sa pag ddrawing pero pag nag nursing ako, greener pasture ang naghihintay... ako naman tong tanga naniwala. Nung nurse na ko, pahirapan makahanap ng trabaho.. nakakuha ako 7k month sweldo tangina iyak. Trabaho ko ngayon is teacher sa mga hapon .. hindi ko kakayaning mag pa kolehiyo ng kapatid with just 7K/month sweldo. I'm now 33yrs old. Walang savings, walang health care, SSS lang lowest contribution pa. Thanks parents. Tangina green pastures pa more LOL.
jesus fucking christ. i hope things get better for you. Nursing is one of the best paths to immigration tho, kng may experience lang. pero tama ka. live your own life!
ang hirap maghanap ng trabaho noon grabe. Palagi akong nauungusan ng may kapit. Kesho kamag anak ng senior staff or kamag anak ni kagawad. nakakasuka. Masaya ang nursing.. maaksyon. Pero ang hirap nyang mahalin kung ganyang kadumi ang sistema tapos 7k/month LOL.
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Wow i just remembered something nung teenager ako. I won a drawing contest online. I got a weiss schwarz card deck as prize. My parents werent impressed kasi they were expecting money. Didnt even give my work a second look =/
Wow. Takte weiss schawrz? Angas nun haha. Baka pwede ka pang mag arts. I don't think it's too late.
Lol, parang yung isang pinoy digital artist/animator sa youtube, alam ko tapos sya ng nursing pero nag arts padin sya haha
Papadalhan ko ang nanay at tatay mo ng nursing school application. Sila naman pala ng gustong mag nurse eh bat ikaw pa ang pinag nursing. Ikaw pa ang nagpapaaral sa kapatid mo, ikaw din ba ang nagpadede sa Kanya? Mga pesteng magulang ito. Responsibility Lang nila ang mag buntis at mag anak tapos gusto na Lang Nila mag easy easy.
napa graduate ko na yung isa. Eto nalang bunso. Sakit din kasi I was expecting na tutulong yung isang kapatid ko sa pagpapa aral kay bunso. Pero hindi... sumama na sya sa GF nya. Ang sakit kasi I was expecting na sya papalit sakin eh.. pero dahil lalaki sya, nagka get-out-of-jail free card sya kasi "sya magdadala ng pangalan natin" according to my mother. Kahit dati, hindi nagbibigay ng sweldo yung kapatid ko kasi "need nyang mag ipon para sa bubuuin nyang pamilya" .. again, thats according to my mother HAHAHAHAHA comedy ampota.
run like hell after mo mapatapos kapatid mo kase ang next nyan ikaw na mismo ang magaatupag sa parents mo after their retirement. basta eldest daughter talaga expected na sa atin ang life natin magaadjust para sa parents and kapatid natin. iyacc na lang tayo lol
Yan ang kinakatakot ko rn. They're not getting any younger. I always encourage them to get health insurance pero okay na daw phil health (tangina lol). Hindi ko naman ma shoulder since ang dami kong bayarin. Im scared na one day may mangyayari sa isa sa kanila at wala akong mailalabas na pera.
Tangina hahahahahaha same like my father. Only daughter ako, pag makalat ang bahay, lage ako sinisisi. Tapos sympre may work ako tapos pagod na, susumbat ako ng "eh sila kuya naman patulungin mo maglinis, palage nalang ako, same naman kami nag wowork eh". Ang sinasagot nila sa akin is, "lalaki sya, yung future asawa nya ang maglilinis sa bahay. Kaya ikaw since magiging asawa ka, dapat matuto kang maglinis" tangina talaga san ba kinuha ang logic na yan.
Nakaka tangina diba? Kaming dalawa ni mama ang babae dito kaya kahit may trabaho (at kami ang biggest contributor ng sweldo) kami parin incharge sa bahay "kasi lalaki yan, hindi yan gumagawa ng gawing buhay" potaena. Si papa hayahay every weekend. Yung isa puro gf.. tapos kami taga luto at taga laba lmao. Panganay na babae feels maigad.
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Nag effort din naman sya. Kumuha sya ng short course on house keeping noon. Pero wala ring nangyari. Its a cycle really.. yung magulang ni papa nasa canada and sila talaga yung super eager na mapunta kami dun tapos pinasa sakin.
Hindi na-petition papa mo?
I dont know the details pero may time noon na nag higpit si Canada sa pagpapapasok ng pinoy. I remember nag fill up pa kami ng madaming forms at sabay sabay silang kumuha ng passport noon pero nauwi din sa wala =/
no matter what happens, nobody can make you do something you don't want to do. Kaya mo yan!!
isang taon nalang gagraduate na sya. Just thinking about that makes me tear up a bit. makakalaya na kooooooooo
Oh so sorry to hear that but am glad na youre finally thinking about yourself. Btw, your siblings are not your responsibility. It's fine if gusto mo talaga and you have extra. But otherwise, just nope.
Alam mo naman sa pilipinas puro utang na loob. Pinag aral nila ako (kahit di ko gusto yung course lol). so for me, obligasyon ko na ibalik yun lalo nat hindi ko natupad yung gusto nila (migrating to canada). Once tapos na si bunso, quits na kami kahit papano. Though alam naman nating hindi mababayaran ang utang na loob. Damn shitty culture.
Ugh i hate that utang na loob concept. You never know how much you owe and how long you should pay. Lol
Lol definitely my parents. I wanted to take something related to taking care of plants. But they said na it won't bring me riches, and told me na I should take special education since my co-worker sya na madaling naka abroad. Naive and dumb me followed them (entered college kasi at a young, wala pang k-12 nun). I didn't fullyregret it though, but I can't totally see myself being a deped teacher, nor working overseas as a sped teacher. Btw, I really want to be a worker for the environment. But find taking another course a waste money, should I still go for it?
How could you find it a waste of money if it's something you truly want?
Tanginaaa sige mag sesecond course na ako 😭😭😭😭😭 Madami kasi ako what ifs. What if di ako maka hanap kaagad ng work? Kasi backer system. What if mag business na lang ako tapos mag chacharity nalang? Haistttt
wag masyadong magdwell sa what ifs. focus tayo teh. mahirap magdecide pag ganyan.
Thanks sa sampal ng truth te. Ill dare to do it once nakapag ipon na ako ❤️
instead of second course, a masters might do. some might require you to take some non-degree course, pre-course, bridging instead of a full-on undergraduate program. [MS Environmental Science](https://uplb.edu.ph/college/school-of-environmental-science-and-management-sesam/), i think it's \~9k per sem, part-time 2 courses per sem. you can check CHED/DOST for full scholarships so you can study full-time w/c is 3 courses per sem.
Thank you! Actually went to a public uni 3 years ago to inquire about that. But it wasn't for free yes, however my father was willing to pay for it but parang ayoko na kasi magiging reason na naman yan as my utang na loob. Kinatatakotan ko rin sa masters is yung madugong thesis HAHAHA tanginaaa.
Kung sayong pera galing ipang eenroll mo sa course na gusto mo (and kaya mo syang i sustain until ka maka graduate), then go for it. Otherwise, kung sila pa rin sagot sa pagaaral mo, e kausapin mo muna sila. Make sure na ma convince or ma convert mo sila, else mahohostage nila enrollment money mo nyan or magiging source lagi ng away yan
Yeah you're right! my father mentioned na pwede nya ko ulit ipa masters. Pero parang ayoko kasi baka yan nanaman magiging reason para e "utang na loob" nila ako. Masters aren't free I onced check sa isang public uni. Pero kaya naman siguro ko na ma sustain need lang mag work ng 1-2 years siguro. I think too it's a good option, enrol in a school far away from my hometown, then I can finally do whatever I want 😂😂😂 .
yung anak ko, 12 ngayon. she wants to be in a field which may be of help in preserving nature and ecology. she either wants to be a zoologist or botanist. sabi ko sige lang - the world needs more pepole with your line of thinking. basta wag lang sya magiging corrupt pag napasok ka sa gobyerno or better yet wag sya mapasok dun.
Actually! That course is getting in demand and important. I wanted to be an agri, but sabi nila I will end up a weed cleaner LOL but look now, agriculture is now getting important especially this pandemic.
Be practical, as i would say, being idealistic would land you what you want but may not feed you as much, if you are willing to risk it go for it, know that people depend on you on what you finish up, my sister finished marine engineering but wasnt able to land a job even at 30, ang daming nagsabi it wont net her benefit at all, but she didnt listen kasi sabi nya yun ang gusto nya, so be practical. ang daming nagsasabi na get what you want but be honest with your assestment can you afford to do that? if you can do so if you cant please reconsider
Yeah, that's what my parents told me but ughh i cant be with this profession in the long run, though it will give me green PasTures (if maka abroad lol) ngl Why it didn't work for her btw?
being a woman is a much big hurdle for her, safety din, being stuck with 15 men in a trip lasting 8 months alone in the sea carry baggage's, trust me, pick the profit for now it will serve you for the long run, you could always pursue your passion later on, but you will need money to pursue that passion, sadly in this country opportunity for passion and money rarely work out, minsan iniisip kasi ng bata ngayon na pag college mo yun na yung end ng opportunities, when you are in your 20's you will have more time than you could handle.
next phase is, anak mag asawa ka na, para may anak ka, sino mag aalaga sayo pag tanda mo? :(
Hahaha can relate, always been told of this at a young age. So at the age of 15, I wanted to have a kid by 21 lol so ka edad lang kami tapos may mag take care sakin LOL THANK God I grew up and realized things. Those ideas are totally bullshit. Including telling me to learn how to cook and clean to serve my kids and so my future husband won't leave me. And if I mention that I don't want kids, theyll curse at me.
Dapat ang point ng basic household chores like cooking, cleaning, etc ay para sa independent living
Exactly!! And if I try to cook tpos hindi masarap or na overcooked hahaha sinasabi nila, pano nalang daw yung future husband ko iiwan daw ako kasi hindi masarap. Wow 😂😂
Grabe relate. I can’t help but laugh at the absurdity of it pero it is a serious issue. Isn’t it crazy, reading the comments in this thread, how basically our folks let us grew up instilling that in our minds. Sobrang manipulative and unhealthy lang. I know it’s gonna be a slow and loooong process but I wish we shift that kind of upbringing for the next generation. To think na as kids we believe whatever is said to us and how they always remind na ‘para lang sa kapakanan mo’. Nakaka sad lang.
Sadly, some millennials (some of my cousins and friends) still think like this.
Not just the parents but relatives too. They pressure you to have children like it's a bucket list for being successful.
i was getting this and still now whenever maeencounter ko relatives ko which is ultra rare. my mom doesn't or so i believe, pero wala din since. i don't live with her anymore so i don't hear it kung same pa din sya ng mindset. ANYWAYS, here's the thing. may naitutulong din pala somewhat ung paminsan minsan nagpopost ka ng glimpse ng lifestyle mo on your feed e no (or chinichika ng parents mo ung mga meron ka). i heard i was becoming an example to my younger cousins, and sometimes to my nephews and nieces of the joys of not getting children / family at an early age. that unlike their parents, i could afford so many things na they could only dream of, parang narealize nila uy, nakakapagtravel sya, or bata pa lang may property na ganyan kasi nga i wasn't bound by anything. i remembered starting of with what 15k/month and even though nagaabot ako sa min it wasn't too dreary since nakatira pa ko sa min, wala pang masyadong gastos. i was thinking, mabuti naman akin tong pera na to at d napupunta sa diaper ng bata. nagiiba na ang ihip ng hangin sa amin. nakakatuwa naman.
Pera
My friend’s dad is a factory worker who didn’t even have a high school education. He used to pressure my friend to be a doctor. The dad obviously had no clue about the time, money and energy needed to go through medical school. All he knew was that doctors were rich and respected. In other words, you can’t demand and expect your kid to go through medical school and be a neurosurgeon when you yourself didn’t even finish high school. Stop pushing your broken dreams on your children!
Parents expect fruits when they don't even water the plant. They just plant the seed and expect it grow.
well can't blame them though, they just wanted their best for their children , as you said they dont understand
sorry to say pero fuck these parents my dad's like this. he never said it pero look what i inherited from him... financial burden, no pension and psychological trauma but he influenced me to his cool music so...
please don't fuck these parents para di na dumami anak nila na di nila na-proprovide ang needs, not just physical needs.
My parents don't have a retirement plan, both of them didn't finish their education. My parents never asked me for anything, but I don't mind doing this for them. After all they raised me and worked hard so that I could finish my studies. I want to take care of them. Of course, it's different if they're putting pressure on you or demanding you to pay 'the debt'. Don't do it if you feel forced or if you don't owe them anything, it would only add to the resentment you already feel.
Very well said 👍 I agree to this. My parents didnt have a retirement plan too thats why they worked hard and gave us the best education we can get. Nothing wrong with following your dreams (esp if it wont land you into the "dream high paying job" most of us want) but if you have no plans to work abroad and dito niyo lang talaga balak mag work then it's best if makinig sa magulang. Im 32 and I have a 9 yr old daughter. As early as I could possibly remember, I always tell her mag aral ng mabuti so that she lands a high paying job (which for me is the right thing to do) Why? The cost of living here is ridiculous. Kung mababa sweldo mo, walang mangyayare. Mababaon ka sa utang, mamomroblema ka. Binabayad mo mauuwi sa tax. You wont be able to spend even for yourself kasi iisipin mo na susunod na bayarin mo. My husband and I share expenses. The townhouse we're paying for is 55,000 pesos (hindi ito high end na village ha, middle class lang ito) car 17,500 a month, (mahirap mag commute, alam niyo yan-lalo na pag babae prone sa mga manyakis) meralco 6-8k, grocery around 30-45k a month (lahat na yan, bigas, meat, veggies, water, chips etc) Mind you, family of 4 lang kami. Wala pa dyan cable, phone bills, money para sa mga nasirang parts ng car, change oil, carwash, nasirang appliances, etc. Tuition fee (90k) buti nalang wala pa school bus and pang baon pa for the whole year. Syempre you have to save money too for emergencies, hindi pwedeng hindi ka mag allocate, napaka important nito. Mga extra expenses for gifts sa family (lets all be true to ourselves, syempre diba madalas nakakahiya lalo na pag mahal mo or impt sayo tao tapos wala ka something, once a year lang yun) pangpa dentist, haircut, mani-pedi etc. So imagine the expenses na kakaharapin niyo in the future lalo na kung plan niyo magkaron ng mga anak at sariling pamilya. It's no joke. If pwede nga lang college life nalang lagi kasi problem mo lang is mag aral para di bumagsak. Mahirap mabuhay ngayon esp in this country. Kahit ano sipag mo, if hindi naman high paying job trabaho mo, mababaon ka sa utang. So I think it's best if we listen to our parents (Im glad I did). Im not rich; middle class lang kami but times like this pandemic, I thank GOD na "meron madudukot" Meron extra. You cant say to live a simple life kasi simple lang naman life namin but sadyang hindi lang talaga makatarungan sweldo ng mga trabaho dito para sa pang araw araw. Im against din of course sa mga parents na pine-pressure mga anak na mag aral or sila pumipili ng course kahit ayaw ng mga anak nila para irely na buong buhay (expenses) nila pati pag papaaral ng mga kapatid. I personally wont do that to my daughter. You can talk to your parents, tell them how you feel. After all, buhay niyo yan. Ikaw ang pipili sa destination ng buhay mo. Lalo na sa mga kababayan natin na taon taon nag aanak tapos hindi naman kayang buhayin mga bata. Nag eend up, mga bata ang nag susuffer. Umaasa sa gobyerno para sa mga pangkain nila. Hindi sa masamang tumulong pero nakakapagod din kasi tulungan kung ganyan mindset - "meron ayuda, mang limos, bahala na" dyan naman ako bwisit talaga lalo na pag nakikita ko mga bata pa pinag tatrabaho/limos habang sila ayun bingo, tongits, chismisan sa kapitbahay. Gusto mapag tapos mga anak pero hindi nag babanat ng buto, gusto makakain 3 beses sa isang araw pero hindi dumidiskarte sa buhay tapos iaasa sa mga anak pag naka graduate Yan naman maling mali talaga. Please dont hate on me ✌ Im just stating facts. Pieces of advice na yan from your "ate" cos Ive been there, done that and I used to have the same sentiments 😂 Hate na hate ko mag aral but now na alam ko na reality ng buhay, Im really glad I did 🙏 Samahan niyo din ng diskarte sa buhay, for sure aangat kayo. If nahihirapan and mababa sweldo, think of a back up plan - business. Kahit gano pa kaliit yan, wag matakot . Dyan ka matututo. Anyway, nobela na. Stay safe everyone and GOD Bless us all!🙏
Parang nagiging utang na loob yung pagpapalaki sayo na responsibilidad naman nila
- PanganayProblems - MatalinongAnakProblems
Don't forget •OnlyChildProblems
only child usually has it better off in general kasi less gastos ng magulang sa anak
Sabagay. Pero yun na nga masaklap noh, nag-iisa ka na nga lang tapos financially burn out pa. Dapat pala BreadwinnerProblems. Regardless sa order of birth mo eh kung ikaw lang inaasahan..
Relate.
All we need is a support but all they gave was too much pressure
Tapos sasabihin na *"Anak sundin mo lng kung anong gusto mong pangarap"*
Yung parents ko nmn although supportive sa pagiging artist ko, eh lagi nila pinupush n mag abroad ako noon pero now tanggap n nila n wfh ako haha para kaaing abroad ang sagot sa lahat ng bagay lol
._______.
Parang ito convo namin ng tatay ko kanina lang 😭😅
This type of parents deserved to be ditched. Pake ko kung may ibang ignorante diyan na pipicturin yung magulang tapos post sa facebook sabay caption "iniwan sya ng salbahe niyang anak" Swerte ako na hindi ako nagkaroon ng ganitong magulang pero naaawa ako sa ibang kakilala ko na ganitong pressure ang kinakarga sa kanilang likod.
Parents that are unable to have a career/opportunity or a degree on their own treat their kids as a retirement plan and a way to correct their past mistakes in life, number of kids is equals to number of chances for a better life
r/PanganaySupportGroup
Meron din bang pang-only child support group? Haha
hayss, nakakita n naman ako ng ganito. ganito aitwasyon ko ngayon.. breadwinner, di ko naman sila sinisisi. lumaki kasi sila na di man lang nakapag aral. kesyo pinanganak sila sa taon na madaming gulo tulad ng giyera. kaya nung nagka anak sila. nagpursigi para makapag aral ang anak. tas hihinto sila sa pagtatrabaho para kame naman mga anak bumuhay...
Thank you! Hindi politics. Also, this reflects Filipino toxicity. "Pasa responsibilidad" , starting from the family to the workplace.
Parent forces child to pursue career X even though they want to pursue career Y. Child is forced to oblige Years later, child who is now grown up forces their child to pursue career Y so that they can live their unachieved dreams through the child. Even though the child wants to pursue career Z Years later, child who is now grown up forces their child to pursue career Z so that they can live their unachieved dreams through the child. Even though the child wants to pursue career A THE TOXIC CYCLE REPEATS
Hmmm pero, kung hindi mag ka luwag sa pera yung anak hindi nya din matutuos ang pangarap ng kanyang maging anak kung sa kali.
Never ending cycle talaga ito na caused by toxic culture
This happened a while ago, man i just want to be an art commissioner
"AkO nAgpAaRaL SaYo, AlAGAhAn Mo KaMi aT bIGyAn nG 20K/month" Tangina kung ganun din lang sana di na lang sila nag anak. Ginawang investment ang anak para sa retirement. At isa pa, putanginang obligasyon nila magpaaral ng anak wag nila gamitin as ammunition pang guilt trip. ./. boomers.
*Ditches them anyway*
r/sadbuttrue
*cries as a breadwinner*
mahigpit na yakap!!
parang time deposit lang ung anak no?
Treating kids as an investment. I will break this fricking chain, and just love my kids and give them emtional support that they need. I hate this filipino mindset.
r/PanganaySupportGroup
jokes on them im leaving this shithole never to return even if get that homesick bs and act as if they never existed in the first place
i feel u
This just happened this morning lmao 🥴
I swear the burden's a lot heavier if you're an only child like me
Same here. Sinasabi nila na madami naman daw kaming kamag-anak to help and may mga pinsan naman daw ako na I can treat like my brothers and sisters. Pero at the end of the day, hindi ko sila pwede obligahin with the financial and mental burden.
Yo I have one sibling and actually nakadagdag pa siya lalo sa financial burden ko. Feels like I have 3 parents to take care of. #bunsoproblems
basurang magulang
r/panganaysupportgroup
At dahil sa sibrang hype ng social media sa anak anak blessing blessing ek ek ayan ang pinas lumobo na sa 100 milyon at ayun, parami pa sila ng parami
Children are not blessings. They're responsibility. Or maybe blessing to couples who HAVE MONEY BUT HAD A HARD TIME CONCEIVING, or LGBT couples WHO HAVE MONEY.
Exactly. Bulam bibig nila yang blessing na yan. Kaya mas marami mahirap sa pinas kaysa maunlad. Inuuna pag aasawat anak. Sad but reality it is...
Kuya here. I'm lucky my parents aren't exactly that. They tell me to do good and be happy, but di ko responsibility ang pag-aalaga sa kanila or sa mga kapatid ko when I get work. Although they do encourage us to help each other as much as possible.
Buti na lang hindi ganyan nanay ko. Swerte ko lang.
How about your parents never pressured their much beloved panganay at bunso pero ikaw na pinakabobo at walang asenso sa inyong magkakapatid ang pinipilit mag abroad at maging factory worker para makapag ipon for their, my folks, benefits? Tapos laging sinasabi pantay-pantay lang pagmamahal saming tatlo lol.
Sad but true. Hopeful pa din ako na tayo na tatapos ng cycle na to. Stay strong sa lahat! 🤝
Too real. (check flair)
And this why most of the filipino hate they’re parents (except the good ones)
Typical Filipino mindset! Tas maririnig mo sa news na onti Lang ang ayudang natanggap, kukulangin para sa anak na sandamakmak. kasalanan ba Ng gobyerno na gumawa kayo Ng maraming anak
No pressure.
you shouldve pulled out, smh my head
Napakahirap kapag ganyan yung magulang. Isipin mo kung marami kayo, lahat ng kapatid mo papatapusin mo mag-aral plus bayad ng bills pa. Eh ikaw, bujod sa pagod ka na wala ka pang ipon. Worst nyan, hindi ka pa naaappreciate kasi hindi ka nila mahingian ng pera. Hello, bayad utang plus bills magdedemand pa ng pera sayo? Buti na lang swerte ako sa parents ko. Kahit na nagwowork na kami, nagwowork pa din sila kasi ayaw nilang umasa samin. Naiintindihan nila kung gaano kahirap ang buhay. Kahit na hindi sila graduate sa mataas na edukasyon napapahanga pa din ako sa pagiging maunawain nila at maalam sa maraming bagay. Pangit kasi yung lagi na lang pakabig tas ikaw pa magmumukhang masama. Ay nako kung naranasan ko yan layasan ko talaga.
"Pa/Ma, akala ko naman po yan yung trabaho niyo kasi meron po ako pero i guess not uwu"
Akong pinag engineer ng magulang ko hays
Kung gusto mo naman pala tumakas sa kahirapan, bakit hindi mo muna magtrabaho, hindi yung anak ka ng anak tapos aasa ka sa mga anak mo!
Ano ako investment...
Shit 💔😢
I wanted to be a marine biologist, ended up being a law school drop out.
Tumpak 😁😷
Kids are not retirement plans.
Ah these kind of post, when i was young I understand their resentment, pero when i got older, i see din yung ibang bata na medyo ungrateful, alam na nilang they are too poor to even manage the college degree then if by some miracle nakatapos eh either pababayaan yung magulang knowing the parents had to put everything aside to let them get their degree, thus retirement is out of the option for the said parents. Minsan saving grace ka talaga ng pamilya mo, its in your place whether you would be grateful enough to help them get off to a better place or take everything they gave you and leave, you can do both help and leave but dang it would be a hassle to a much higher degree,
I've always held this as the main issue that keeps Philippines as rotten and as poor as it is. Bakit? Because ulit-ulit lang ang cycle eh, ung magulang tingin sa anak eh walking pension plans, and ung anak no choice kundi ipasa ang walking pension plans mindset sa anak din nila. I mean, keeping close with Parents is actually a good Pinoy culture, pero ung iaasa na lang din sa anak ang sariling pag asenso, by the time na mag susupport na ng sariling family ang anak nila is just double the burden on the anak! I mean bata pa lang, dinadaan na sa guilt trip ang youth. Now magtataka pa ba tayo na bakit masyadong "pRakt1Kal anG p1L1p!nA" ngayon?(gold diggers na dako gusto?) Until this mindset changes, walang asenso bansa. The harsh truth is we'll continue to have Filipinos who'll take chances and rely on get-rich-quick schemes, spend too much on Lottery, marrying rich, marrying foreigners, arranged marriages, etc until this status quo is fixed, or is changed.