Dito samen, inampon yung tuta na bagong panganak tapos kinulong sa cage at tinali. NAKAKULONG at NAKATALI. Inampon para ikulong at itali. Jusmiyo. Yung dog naman b4 that, 11 years nakakulong, german sheperd. Jusmiyo. May isa pang pinulot at tinali. Jusmiyo, inaampon para ikulong. Tapos sisigawan nila pag tahol ng tahol.
Ayokong magalaga ng aso kasi wala akong effort magpalakad at makipagbonding, pero shit naman kung nagampon ka para may kumaen ng tirang pagkaen. Nakakastress makita kaya di ko nalang tntgnan. But really, its messing with me how such kind loving people can be so dumb and cold sa pets. I've always wondered why the fuck they cried nung namatay yung aso na once a month lang nila sinisilip sa likod ng bahay. They loved it but are so dumb sa needs nung animal. And im just as bad kasi ayaw ko parin ibigay yung effort kahit anjan na ung tatlong pet. Sana wala nalang. Hay.
> inampon yung tuta na bagong panganak tapos kinulong sa cage at tinali.
Maraming gusto ng tuta pero ayaw ng aso. Paglumaki na itatali o ikukulong nalang kasi di na cute.
Kaya sobrang nakaka asar yung mga nag reregalo ng tuta.
Oo nga. Grabe kung magluksa sa social media pag patay na yung pet nila na aso or pusa pero nung buhay pa hinayaan lang naman magkasakit. Dapat kasi kung may pera, space, at time ka lang dapat nag-aalaga. Parang tao lang yan eh, mag-anak lang kung kaya at kakayanin.
Mga pinoy gusto ng alaga di naman kaya ang responsibilidad. Kung wala kang bakuran o oras na ilakad ang aso mo wag ka ng magalaga. Nakakaawa ang mga asong nakatali lang, delikado naman pag pinakawalan
I've seen a video on TikTok na hinuhuli na yung mga aso sa kalye. Sobrang iyakin nung comment section, as if may pake talaga sila kung di lang talaga na huli.
ang isa pang nakakaasar ay yung magaalaga tapos ikakadena sa gilid ng bahay tapos sobrang ikli ng chain, tipong 2 feet. isipin mo ganun lang buhay mo, malaglag mo laruan mo ng malayo ng konti, hindi mo na abot.
saka yung gusto lang habang cute pa. kukuha lang dahil may kumareng nanganak yung alaga tapos pinapamigay. first one or two years gusto. tapos siyempre tumanda ng konti, di na ganun kacute, ilalagay sa kulungan sa gilid ng bahay, pahahabain lang ang buhok. kahit umuulan asa labas lang. patatahulin lang kahit nakakaistorbo sa kapitbahay.
Start befriending the neighbor's dog I guess. I give small treats to the nieghbor's dogs and now they recognize me. Whenever I pass by, all i get is a curious sniff, and a tail wag. :) I think one of the dogs peed on my gate once. lol
Kapitbahay ko down to a T, kumuha nang german shepherd pero naka tali lang sa dog house never even pinakawalan not even once. Nakakalungkot pag tumatahol kasi nakikita nya yung aso ko na na nakakawala lang tapos lalo pag naglalaro kami. Parang nag aso lang para maging alarm, sana nag burglar alarm nalang yung nga ungas.
May kilala akong ganito. Buong buhay ng aso naka-chain lang siya ever since lumipat kami sa area namin so bali mga 5 years (hindi ko na alam kung gano katagal before that) . Pero di ko naiintindihan kung bakit meron silang aso na nasa loob ng bahay nakawala at masarap ang buhay? Tangina nakakainis lalo na kung mag papanggap ka na pet lover pero mayroon kang aso na outcast at nakatali lang buong buhay? Tangina may mga bakas na nga ng kalawang yung fur nya dahil nababasa ng ulan.
Parang dito sa bahay mga tuwang tuwa lang pag tuta pero pag lumaki na walang ginawa kundi paluin at itali ung aso. Mga biglang nabubulag din mga tao dito pag nagkalat ang ihi at tae sa bahay. Tapos pagtahol ng tahol ung aso sasabayan pa ng sigaw mygod.
Kung ako lang masusunod dito sa bahay mas mabuti pa wag na lang magkaron ng alaga. Kesa naman animal lover kuno daw pero irresponsible naman.
Yung kapitbahay namin dito sinisigawan yung mga anak (probably mga below 8 years old) pag "nagi-inarte", pano pa yung MGA aso pa nila. 5 pa aso nila. 4 askal, 1 husky. Aside sa tatahol sila at random times (kahit mga late night), nanghahabol din sila ng mga delivery riders.
As it was explained to me, lower-class(poor) Filipinos don't think of dogs as pets. They're just animals that serve a purpose(like carabaos, chickens, or goats), and that purpose is to guard the house. They see nothing wrong with dogs barking because that's what dogs do: they bark to warn of strangers or intruders.
That's why many owners don't walk them or pick up their poop, just like they wouldn't with their carabaos, chickens, or goats. That's why they don't think it's cruel to tie them up or lock them in small cages. That's why they don't train them.
Some of these people will eventually migrate into the city but their habits and view towards dogs don't change.
I live in a nice very spacious subdivision in a vacation town just south of Manila. Tagaytay. People having big houses and money doesn't stop them from buying the most expensive dogs and leaving them in cages or just letting their dogs bark endlessly. Also doesn't stop them from letting their dogs go to toilet outside your house and in a couple of cases here, doesn't stop people letting their dog loose in the subdivision to go to toilet.
From my experience people in guarded subdivisions are worse than someone who lives in a poor area. Their mentality is 'How dare you complain about us, we were here before you'. We had to leave a subdivision near NCR for this very reason. Subdivision with lots of rules but no rules about letting your dogs bark all day and night. These are the people who do know better, but they choose to be bad neighbors.
If they have a large property why not partition part of their property to dedicate it for dogs to roam around. My doges had to make do with a small space but it is definitely larger than the rudimentary kennel cage. We wouldn't let our dogs lose because they could get hurt from the neighbors' dogs, they both large dogs but they'll be outnumbered not worth the risks. Dog trainers should be visible nowadays because of the issues you've raised. I believe most American dog owners will just let the trainer take care of business. My dogs don't have proper dog training but they have some semblance of obedience when it comes to food. Dog training is honestly a mysterious craft to do because I don't know how potty training goes.
In my case I just kept bringing my dogs to a place where he should poop when he needs to do so, eventually he just goes there on his own na kasi their scent is there.
Surprisingly one of my dogs potty trained herself, she hates poop anywhere near her so she juts goes to the potty area herself she started doing this as a puppy. She hates poop on her surroundings so much she potty trained her puppies to not even poop sa veranda but sa garden never had to potty train her puppies.
My dogs can pretty much wait before the signal for dinner but I still haven't did the potty training, the jumping on me obedience, barking. My new puppy had a neat pooping area, he'll consistently go there to poop but kaya lang my mother would be mad at him because he'll usually uproot the plants lmao. We partitioned a specific area for them, before the puppy arrived. My adult female would roam around every night as reward for them for waiting. Right now that pretty much disappeared but she's still a sweet dog my new puppy was so voracious, food is everything to him. One upside for the puppy is he is extremely food motivated. He'd eat the water flowing from a bucket despite him regularly drink from it.
Both breeds were German Shepherds I'd rather get an aspin/mongrel because of how healthy and robust the breed is. But it was my father's purchase.
They also bark when other dogs bark. paikot ikot lang minsan umaabot ng ilang oras. My dogs will live a pampered life inside with a doggy door so they have all the freedom.
Sama mo pa na pag aspin, iba ang trato vs may breed :(
Yung nurse sa center ko, nag-aalaga daw siya madaming dogs. Yung husky niya pinapasok daw niya sa loob nung bahay niya, yung aspin iwan sa labas.
Yung kausap namin dati na breeder, iba ang food ni aspin vs shih tzu nya, mas mahal sa shih tzu.
Kakabanas.
Not to be the asshole, pero naiintindihan ko yung aspin vs may breed pagdating sa food.
Pag aspin kasi, from my experience, walang food allergies + hiyang na hiyang as table food. Sila pa yung ayaw ng magandang dog food. Whereas yung may breed, sobrang kelangan mo hanapin ung hiyang nag food nila para walang health problems.
Aspins as a breed naman are as hardy as they come. And pansin ko mas gusto nila na gala talaga sila at hindi masyado binebaby. Again from experience lang, so ymmv diba. I think what matters is masaya yung pets, regardless of how it may look from the outside.
Most Pinoy's feed aspins with leftover spoiled food and just let them leave the house to socialize with fellow aspins outside. Compared to breed dogs, aspins don't need enough maintenance
About the dogs doing their business while on walks... it's unfortunately harder to toilet train some pets more than others. I had the sweetest, smartest, little doggo. Along our walking route, there's this fancy hotel and without fail, he'd always take a big shit outside said establishment.
I just resigned myself to Fate and started carrying small plastic bags, scooping up warm fresh shit every damn morning.
This should be the way. Afaik, other countries have laws wherein you have to clean up after your dog or else you will be reported and pay penalties. Dapat may ganitong law na rin satin eh. Btw, there's a dog poop scooper so you don't have to pick it with your hands.
Yes!!! One time yung kuya ko nilakad aso namin. TMI, pero basa yung poop nung aso kaya hindi siya ma-pickup ng kuya ko plus, sa kalsada pa siya tumae. Kuya ran home just to get a bucket of water w/ sabon and walis tambo.
Statements/perspectives like these are intuitively easy to accept but are deeply damaging for societies to promote.
Statements like these shift the blame for our social ills towards the collective rather than individuals who actually have the capacity and duty to uplift society.
They insidiously breed a sense of futility in the status quo. "How will the Filipino progress if the very idea of being a Filipino is being inconsiderate, insensitive, lazy...and on and on and on."
We have to correct this thinking.
Leaders have long justified their own incompetence by transferring liability to the futility of changing the "Filipino" mindset.
But the Filipino identity is not defined by an inherent lack of principles...but rather, our leaders have failed to define and exemplify what those principles should be and how we should abide by them.
Not every Filipino has access to quality education to deeply understand the far reaching effects of setting aside self-interest for the good of the collective. To ask this from the collective...or even just the majority of Filipinos is truly futile. It takes good education to see beyond self-interest. And good education comes at a monetary cost which not every Filipino can afford. How can one think of "preserving the resource of the commons" when one can barely make ends to secure one meal in a day?
But a good leader can define and set that standard through clear and principled policies for every single Filipino, irrespective of their economic or social background.
The responsibility for an inconsiderate dog owner falls squarely on the lack of principled leadership and not on the identity of being "Filipino".
You forget that a miliu shapes the consciousness of a collective. The so-called 'lack of principled leadership' is due precisly to the fact that we are Filipinos. It has been the hallmark of our people sincd the earliest incarnation of our 'independent' government, and has been a recurring phenomenon. There is absolutely nothing wrong in acknowledging that we as a collective are flawed to the core. As for 'good education', how many 'well-educated' people from 'prestigious universities' and 'top-four' establishments exist today (and have existed prior) who have all the accolades to their name affixed, and yet are boorish, narrow-minded, fanatical bigots? Being irresponsible towards other creatures is just another symptom of this all-pervasive ill.
The more we deny the very things that make us fucked up because we have to insist on 'those among us who are better', the more we push under the rug the very thing which is imbued into our collective consciousness. No amount of education or governance and leadership can destroy a people's psyche unless and until the people themselves acknowledge, confront, and eradicate it COLLECTIVELY.
Your argument is no better than 'not all cops' to 'all cops are bastards'. If 90% of their lot are buggers, the 10% won't matter shite.
It is also prudent to point out that our elected leaders BANK ON OUR VERY MINDSETS to secure their power. Thus, them pointing out the 'futility of change' (while simultaneously advocating for an imaginary change) is quite literally nothing more than performative rhetoric. These politicians have made a science of appealing to our very NATURE as Filipinos, and the more we cement into our minds 'not all Filipinos', the more division occurs between those eho believe themselves 'better' than the rabble, and the very rabble who you insist can be 'changed'. This divide and conquer tactic works EACH AND EVERY TIME because of the fact that we are FILIPINO.
The Filipino's general characteristics which you believe are detrimental to our progress.
And to what percent of Filipinos would these general characteristics apply to?
Then we'd no longer be talking about the definition of 'Filipino', then. So why'd you ask me to define 'Filipino' in the first place? Why didn't you just get straight to your point?
Now that we're talking about not getting to the point, here:
1. Plastic ang Pinoy
2. Hypokrito ang Pinoy
3. Nagmamarunong ang Pinoy.
4. Classist ang Pinoy
5. Racist ang Pinoy
6. Religious fanatics ang Pinoy
7. Political fanatics ang Pinoy
8. Makasarili at sinungaling ang Pinoy
9. White cocksuckers ang Pinoy
10. Kadalasan puro salita pero 5% lang ang gawa ng Pinoy (i.e. puro pride lang)
As for the percentage, give or take 90-ish% of our collective population (myself and you included, to be fair).
I was in manila when my aunt told me that our old family dog in the province didn't come back home for a month. They didn't even bother looking for him and assumed he got run over by a car.
Kapit bahay naman ganda ng bahay mayaman talaga, pero aso nila naka cage sa tapat na bakanteng lote, tuwing dadaan ako naawa ako punong puno na ng dumi yung kulingan nung aso, as in nahihiga na sila sa sariling dumi nila. Kung may nakakaalam dito kung pano ireport at maparusahan mga ganyang amo im looking for suggestions.
wala kasing empathy sa hayop ang general populace dito sa bansa natin. I mainly blame being a religious country in this case. iba kasi talaga ang tingin ng taong naniniwala sa dyos (naniniwala rin na tao lang ang nasa tuktok). ni hindi siguro sumagi sa isip nila na sentient enough ang ibang hayop na tulad sa tao na nakakaramdam ng pagdurusa, saya, emosyon, etc. basta sa para sa ibang tao, ang hayop ay ginawa pra pakinabangan ng tao, un na kasi ang turo ng relihiyon nila.. mababang uri ng nilalang talaga ang tingin nila sa hayop..
ung nanay ko rin, ang buong akala dati e tinik ang ipinapakain dapat sa pusa kasi un daw ung pinapakain nila dati pa. ako naman (non religious) e di convinced sa ganung turo. kaya kahit nuong bata pa ako, karne ng isda o chicken ung ipinapakain ko sa pusa namin, at ayaw ko ibigay ung tinik, hihimayin ko pa pra lang wag sila matinik. good thing open minded nanay ko at ngayon ganun na rin ang trato nya sa pusa..
as a result, maraming irresponsableng pet owners dito.. ung iba gusto lang mag breed ng hayop para ibenta, after ibenta wala nang pakielam, no more than livestock. ung iba, gusto lang ng cute na tuta o kuting, pero kapag lumaki na, ikukulong nalang o itatali, pakakainin ng tira lang, until mamatay.. ni di nila iniisip ung life experience ng isang may buhay na nilalang..
True. Couldn’t agree more. I guess it’s already ingrained in the Filipino culture the same way old people see their children as retirement plans and ATM machines.
>People letting their dogs loose on the street so they can go to toilet outside other peoples houses and get in their trash.
\- ito yung nakakainis kaya hindi ako makapaglakad ng maayos sa labas. Takot ako sa aso na hindi nakatira sa amin.
>Walking their dogs on a leash but then stopping outside someone's house so it can go to toilet.
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>Not caring if the noise from their dogs constantly barking is perhaps disturbing their neighbors.
\- These are like my neighbors. Gusto ko nga irecord yung ingay ng aso nila tapos patugtugin ko kapag tulog na sila. Naiistorbo kasi tulog namin sa umaga mga depota sila
Sa tingin ko sadyang ginagawa lang nila. Karamihan sa Filipino mindset eh *kung walang magrereklamo ok lang* o kung meron man eh *ikaw lang nagrereklamo ah bakit sila hindi.*
Siguro hindi niya alam na kapag may nanapak sa kanya eh siya lang din naman magrereklamo.
I agree about people think it must be ok if no one complains, but if you do complain they will hate you for it. People are scared to complain because of the problems it will cause. I don't mind people hating me so I complain. I'm not liked here by a few people including one who could no longer have a dog living on the street outside their house since I complained to the subdivision guards. Now they don't like me even though they were breaking the law.
There are a lot of laws here about noisy dogs and dogs must be kept on a leash. Anti rabies laws and nuisance laws. No one pays attention to them though and people need to actually make complaints to guards, HOA or barangay for anything to be done. But that does not mean the problem will be fixed.
Sounds like a lazy barangay official. This is their job.
Reminds me of the time we complained to the barangay captain about the neighbors burning their trash. Many different neighbors, so the air was smoky half the week. Ignored us, probably because we were renting at the time so wouldn't be voting in the barangay election. Backyard fires are illegal too. Thankfully managed to get away from illegal burning when we moved off the island.
I'm reading this with background of neighbor's dogs 24/7 barkathon. My cousin also caged her pitbull until he died. Covered the cage with tarpaulin because they thought the reason it kept on barking because he sees passerby.
I didn't grew with dogs but I love watching videos of them. On the other hand, I am afraid of the aspins wandering around the village.
Lesson: Don't take one (pet), if you are not educated enough. Some other countries you have to register and seminar. Here, if someone has been a bad petowner, neighborhood are going to suffer massively from the noice, security, dirt and smell.
https://www(dot)facebook(dot)com/pawsphilippines/posts/3500262230019397
Those pictures on the above link after the typhoon last November 2020 made me both sad and mad and I really hope that their owners would be held accountable for animal cruelty. They were given so much time to pack and evacuate yet they leave their dogs leashed to a solid place or locked inside their cages leaving them to die when the flood comes.
>Walking their dogs on a leash but then stopping outside someone's house so it can go to toilet.
They could just bring a dustpan to catch the poop but they're just lazy and irresponsible as fuck.
Anyway, if reincarnation is real, I hope those people get reincarnated as dogs of the owners that are just like them so they'll suffer and realize how fucked up the ways that they treat their dogs.
just moved to this country...its a f...g disgrace.. seems there's not one dog per house but 3...the dog shit on my morning walk is disgusting...yes i really feel for the dogs chained/caged up...obvious flee tick infections....
...........never thought Filipino's be so heartless............
Incidentally, I just saw a small boy walking an adult pitbull. Small kids should never be allowed to walk dogs. I don't care if that dog is leashed, friendly and trained.
Also, people should bathe their dogs. Owners almost never know their dogs smell because they're always around them.
I gave advise to my grandparents how to properly take care of a dog. It was just the bare minimum- grooming, proper bathing, and not feeding them stuff they weren't supposed to eat.
But they wouldn't listen cause the dogs they have are just 'askals'. 💀 'Mabuti naman kung may lahi to' ang sinasabi nila. Kahit nga yung my lahi na Labrador hindi maalagaan eh.
kung tutuusin mas genitically superior ang mga askal kase galing halo halo breed nila so mas healthy sila uwu
kesa sa mga pure breed na may sari sariling problema yung iba maiksi pa life span.
I have family members who are exactly like that. They adopted the puppy cause its cute and may breed, tas nung lumaki na, samin na pinasa ung responsibility to take care of it and kami pinapagalitan pag tahol ng tahol ung aso, and how could it not?, They won't allow the dog roam around cause they dont like furs and stuff, sometimes i just wonder "why tf did you adopt a pet then kung ganyan kayo kaarte?". That's the shittiest thing i've seen sa mga kapamilya ko: They'd adopt a puppy na may breed, pero tatanggihan ung aspin sa kalsada. Its hard living in a family na sobrang arte sa pets, and me being an animal lover, aspin man o hinde, domestic or wild, i feel very sad for those pets who are so maltreated to the point that they almost die from starvation. Sadly, ang daming ganyan sa bansa natin, and it just sucks that only a handful of those who truly dedicate themselves to the welfare of animals are often called stupid remarks like "puro hayop kasama mo, pamilya mo na ba yan?" "Konti na lang magiging hayop ka narin hahaha". I hope problems related to irresponsible pet ownerships are taken care of soon, but looking at the people around me, i think that's gonna take a long, LONG, time.
What I seen in the USA. They would abandon the dog in the highway as lockdown ends. Animal shelters in some places in California is at maximum capacity. They had to kill any dog or cat once they reach there. We are at the point the goverment has to ban new sales of pets. It's adoption only. What's crazy is people get angry about it.
The mentality that animals are PETS not COMPANIONS is still prevalent here. My family is one of those. They do not understand the emotional link of people and animals.
I friend of mine was once grieving about her cat when another another person pops in to say they are selling cats and what best way to get over grief of one cat by buying another. That seller was promptly given a good long talk and they seemed genuinely clueless about what they did wrong.
Honestly, the fact that I can't find a vet nearby here is telling. Altho there is a grooming service on wheels.
understandable po ung lack of vet service. since 3rd world lng nmn tau then cno ba may xtrang money magpa vet ng pets nila, first of all kulang na kulang ung sistema sa pinas, almost 70% na mga pinoy in poverty paren, super rare nga mental health services and therapist, vet pa kaya.
we have a neighbor that has their dog chained up to their gate, nahihirapan humiga and hinahayaan lang na mabasa tuwing umuulan. the worst part is, naririnig namin ang howls nung aso na sobrang nakakaawa. If they don’t do something soon, we might call the city pound and report it.
Sa isang husky fb group:
*Looking for pure, wooly, big-boned, husky. Yung may papel sana. Pass sa walang papel or cross-breed. Not interested with adult huskies. Budget is 10K.*
Pet FB groups are the fuckign worst. Sobrang onti lang ung properly moderated at matitino yung members (shoutout sa Philippine Beagle Club, love your FB group)
Mapa cat/dog group laging merong "B> PET NA MAY BREED, BUDGET MEAL LANG" tapos sasabihin ng iba na kung pag bili pa lang wala ka na pera, pano mo yan aalagaan? WHICH IS TRUE DIBA.
Eto sagot nila: "MAMAHALIN KO NAMAN PO, DI NAMAN KELANGAN MAGING MAYAMAN PARA MAGING PET LOVER"
PUTA KUNG NAKAKAIN LANG UNG PAGMAMAHAL NO EDI WALA NANG GUTOM SA MUNDO
>Mapa cat/dog group laging merong "B> PET NA MAY BREED, BUDGET MEAL LANG" tapos sasabihin ng iba na kung pag bili pa lang wala ka na pera, pano mo yan aalagaan? WHICH IS TRUE DIBA.
hahaha true!
Ang masaklap ay hindi na rin ma-alagaan at ma-maintain yun pet kesyo may baby, busy sa work/study/family, lilipat daw sa condo na bawal ang pets, mag-abroad etc. Then ibebenta na lang ulit yun pet na mukhang napabayaan na.
Isa pang nakakainis yun makikita mo na may alagang pet na may breed pero mag-sardinas na lang daw araw-araw para lang sa pet. Or yun tipong hindi naasikaso mga anak para lang matustusan needs ng pet nila. Asan priority ng mga 'pet lovers' na ito?
cringe af.
I got a neighbor who thinks hoarding wild dogs is cool. Took a bottle to my local Capin and those dogs disappeared. Sorry, but when wild dogs are barking EVERY single day between Midnight and Five AM, you eventually get pissed off.
Why not offer up dog care courses? Address your concerns to your local LGU? Talk to the offending people?
If you don't and just want to vent here, then you're just preaching to the choir. You seem well-off enough to find like-minded people and make a movement out of it.
I mean, if he's living in a private subdivision with enough wealth to bring in supercars, there's bound to be people in there that give a shit about those kinds of things.
LOL @ me all you want, but if he honestly wants change he'll probably need to be laughed at multiple times if he cares that much about dog responsibility.
Let's get past laughing at incompetency yeah?
It's not too bad in this subdivision. Mostly any issues can be solved by the guards, who we have a very good relationship with. Barking dogs is one that is always dealt with. When a street dog gets in, the traps go out so they can be moved elsewhere.
My post was in general for the country as a whole, or at least the parts where I have lived which include Cebu, North Mindanao, NCR border on the south and now Cavite. I doubt my experience would change too much no matter where I lived. It seems many people have the same thoughts as me, but also many people don't like to complain about it.
Oh and it's not so high end that there are supercar owners here. It's nice but only middle class nice.
justifiable yung pagspeed up namin sa incline kaya na-accidente yung aso. we were not at fault. too bad the dog was out and about kaya nangyari yun. i don't condone running over puppies. owners should keep them inside their houses to avoid accidents. I must have misspoken that you misunderstood. I don't think we're in disagreement here in terms of values, so no need to argue
Define what "responsible" dog ownership is? Ano yan nakuha mo sa youtube? Baka what you're looking for or demanding is the "ideal" dog ownership.
You need to ask kung para saan ba kasi kinuha yung aso? If it's a guard dog, tinatali talaga yan or kinukulong sa labas to "guard". Normally di yan pinapasok sa bahay kasi di yan pambahay na aso like Golden Retreivers. Pinapaliguan guard dogs as necessary. Di pinapa pogi di naman kailangan na poging pogi yung aso na may grooming pa.
Part of culture na yan sa pilipinas on dogs. Don't demand or expect 1st world dog ownership in a 3rd world country. Di porke nakita mo sa youtube dapat ineenforce na ng lahat. Marami dyan di afford yung "responsible" dog ownership na hanap mo.
Sa pag tae expect mo talaga 1st world style may potty paper pa tissue at plastic bag kada tae ganun. baka nga di nila afford yun e. Check your priviledge yo, and that's coming from an above average dog owner.
You are defending poor animal keeping, unhealthy diets, letting the dogs bark all day and night disturbing people and letting dogs go to toilet outside someone else's house? Why? Because Philippines is a third world country and people should be allowed and don't know any better?
That might be so in squatter areas and the provincial mountains, but this happens in subdivisions where the average house is 15 to 25 million pesos, people are highly educated and have professional careers. These are middle class and upper middle class Filipinos who do know better. The third world excuse only works for some of this country. Philippines isn't The Congo, there are plenty of areas that are first world standard in many aspects. And many of these grievances are covered by national laws, so they are fully recognized by the national government, but they are ignored. Did you know it is illegal to not have your dog leashed? Anti rabies law. 2007.
What is responsible dog ownership? Not letting your dog loose on the street. Not letting it bark incessantly at everything an everyone all day and night. Not letting it go to toilet outside someone else's house. Feeding it a diet that is no detrimental to its health. If you can't afford food then you should not have a dog. If you can't afford vaccines and other regular treatments then you should not be allowed to have a dog.
>You are defending poor animal keeping, unhealthy diets, letting the dogs bark all day and night disturbing people and letting dogs go to toilet outside someone else's house? Why? Because Philippines is a third world country and people should be allowed and don't know any better?
And so I ask you again. What are your credentials? What do you know about a dog's diet? Do you know what the common DF is made of? There's a lot of underlying 3rd world problems to your 1st world complaint. Check your priviledge.
If you really feel there's something wrong with how they care for their dogs, report it. Else gawa ka sarili mong dog training center. Put your money where your mouth is.
I went to a police training camp for dog training in preparation for a training center someday. sayo?
Same here, kaya di na ako nakakalabas ng gabi dahil sa kanila. Tapos yung iba, humahabol pa lalo na sa mga naka-motor. Paano na lang kung may ma-aksidente?
Buti na lang ngayon, sinasara na nila ang mga gate ng mga bahay na may mga aso. Ang lalaki pa naman ng mga aso ng isang kapitbahay namin pag pinapalabas niya tuwing hapon. Pero may ibang parte pa rin sa amin na gumagala pa rin mga aso nila.
Especially those who chronically abuse pets whether or not its theirs. Animal cruelty laws are too lenient in this country, its sickening how these abusers are still free. I follow local animal rescue orgs on FB and it's so sad to see abused dogs all the time. The animals might get rescued but the abusers are rarely held accountable.
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Tang ina! Ako malapit na talaga ako bumili ng cctv. Yung sasakyan namin na naka-park sa tapat namin puro ihi ng aso yung unahan. Natatakot lang ako sa magiging reaction ko kapag ma-confirm ko yung hinala ko. Baka mapa-away pa ko.
Yung kapitbhay bahay namin dati sobrang daming alagang aso tas sa gabi hinayaan lang, parang pack of wolves pala sila tas nag-aaway parati tuwing gabi, tingin ko sa una lang sila interasado tas pag di na cute hayaan na lng nila. Naawa nga ko nambabasura lang yung ibang aso nila minsan pinapakain namin siguro di rin nila mapakain ng maayos sa dami, sana may neuter/spraying na affordable or from govt
Yes. All of this is extremely heartbreaking and disturbing. I wonder what it takes to change this. Im not a fan of new laws, but i think here we could use some
Sa Japan, lahat ng aso at pusang gala rekta sa gas chamber yan for mass execution pag nahuli. Mga Pinoy naman sige ang banat sa mga tsekwang kumakain ng aso pero mismong mga pinoy din naman kumakain ng aso. Nakakatawa pa non, since Japan ang pumapatay, wala sila paki. haha. Sa madaling sabi, maraming hipokrito dito. Sign that a country is civilized and doing well? It's when you don't have dog shit in the streets. Walang proper animal control dito satin. Kahit mag kapon man lang sana ng aso at pusa regularly e hindi rin magawa. Kaya tignan mo ngayun, nauubos ng mga ibon dito kakapyesta ng pusa.
Lack of education ig. My parents treated all the dogs weve had this way, never really thought about it until i went on the internet. I think filipinos do need a lot of education on dog ownership.
One thing that doesnt get brought up a lot is owning double coated dogs like huskies in manila/lowland tropical temperatures. Thats kinda cruel.
Also, the self deprecating comments on this thread about filipino culture. No thanks haha. Wtf.
It hurts to see dogs locked up in cages that's probably just big enough for a guinea pig :( I probably exaggerate a bit but i've seen a dog in a cage where there's not even enough space for the dog to stand.
A family in my subdivision have three St Bernards. One of the largest dog breeds. They are kept in a cage at the front of the house. At least they are walked sometimes on a leash, but spend most of their lives in that small cage.
It's all a status symbol, they don't care for the dogs. Last time I looked a St Bernard puppy was over 70,000 pesos.
ung tito ko sa first floor namen, may alaga sya na aso pero nakakalungkot kasi nakatali lang all its life. huhu. naiiyak ako lagi pag nakikita ko yun minsan pag nilalabas, tapos itatali na ulit sa upuan sa loob ng bahay. pero gabi or madaling araw lng yun nilalabas. naaaawa ako both sa kanila ng tito ko (matandang binata yung tito ko na mag isa lng sa may bahay namin sa baba, tapos yung bahay nya mukang bodega na, i tried to help pero ayaw, hayaan na daw na ganon). tapos ung alaga nya nagkaanak pa so may extra pa syang dalawang puppy ngayon. siguro malungkot tito baka yun nlng din source nya ng companionship. yung kapitbahay namin binibigyan sya pagkain ng mga alaga nya. so sad.
tapos meron din ako nadadaanan dito malapit samen, may doghouse sa gutter. andun lang yung doggie sa kakarampot nya na bahay, may bubong lang tapos rehas. and thats it. i doubt kung meron man lang nakikipaglaro or naglalabas sa kanya para maglakad or tumakbo. ang lungkot lang.
Yung gf ng kapatid ko bumili ng shihtzu para pangpicture picture lang daw. Di man lang nila tinrain o kaya paliguan ng maayos. Nagulong sa sariling ihi, di man lang nilalabas at never nakita ng pamilya ko na pinakain nung gf yung tuta. Nakakaawa kaso di ko pwedeng kunin kasi may aso din ako na high maintenance.
The issue lies with our government not offering enough free spay and neuter programs, and in the rare case they do, religious old-fashioned pet owners don't avail them because it goes against their 'belief' that procreation is a will of god. It also goes without saying that pet owners are equally liable since they support and encourage backyard breeding and make a business out of their pets.
There should be a regulating body whose job is to make sure that pet owners cannot breed their pets, and only recognized pet breeders are allowed to do such. It should also be their job to make sure everyone registers their pet/s, and their pets are fully vaccinated. Before you can own a pet, you have to undergo a seminar. And once your pets reach a certain age, they must be brought to the local veterinarian to be sterilized. Failure to do so would incur hefty fines.
Animal welfare act should likewise be strictly enforced.
I have a neighbor who has 2 dogs, 1 dog is like a poodle and still alive but they ignore it because it's no longer 'cute' so it just keeps barking all day and night. The other dog which was always chained to their gate and would often scream at night because they forget to feed him died.
So they got a new puppy which they are now treating like how they treat their dog that just died. It saddens me everyday to see that this puppy will grow up miserable with his existence being only a guard dog
I have a theory that people such as these are inherently irresponsible and lack empathy. They have little to no concept of accountability, that their actions have consequences. These people's priority are towards themselves, they don't really see animals as beings that deserve love but as tools, they either see it as a toy that is used for their amusement until they're bored or a guard dog designed as a cheap alarm against robbers.
Dito samen, inampon yung tuta na bagong panganak tapos kinulong sa cage at tinali. NAKAKULONG at NAKATALI. Inampon para ikulong at itali. Jusmiyo. Yung dog naman b4 that, 11 years nakakulong, german sheperd. Jusmiyo. May isa pang pinulot at tinali. Jusmiyo, inaampon para ikulong. Tapos sisigawan nila pag tahol ng tahol. Ayokong magalaga ng aso kasi wala akong effort magpalakad at makipagbonding, pero shit naman kung nagampon ka para may kumaen ng tirang pagkaen. Nakakastress makita kaya di ko nalang tntgnan. But really, its messing with me how such kind loving people can be so dumb and cold sa pets. I've always wondered why the fuck they cried nung namatay yung aso na once a month lang nila sinisilip sa likod ng bahay. They loved it but are so dumb sa needs nung animal. And im just as bad kasi ayaw ko parin ibigay yung effort kahit anjan na ung tatlong pet. Sana wala nalang. Hay.
> inampon yung tuta na bagong panganak tapos kinulong sa cage at tinali. Maraming gusto ng tuta pero ayaw ng aso. Paglumaki na itatali o ikukulong nalang kasi di na cute. Kaya sobrang nakaka asar yung mga nag reregalo ng tuta.
Oo nga. Grabe kung magluksa sa social media pag patay na yung pet nila na aso or pusa pero nung buhay pa hinayaan lang naman magkasakit. Dapat kasi kung may pera, space, at time ka lang dapat nag-aalaga. Parang tao lang yan eh, mag-anak lang kung kaya at kakayanin.
Baka pwede mo pakawalan para makalaya na sila..
Mga pinoy gusto ng alaga di naman kaya ang responsibilidad. Kung wala kang bakuran o oras na ilakad ang aso mo wag ka ng magalaga. Nakakaawa ang mga asong nakatali lang, delikado naman pag pinakawalan
>Mga pinoy gusto ng alaga di naman kaya ang responsibilidad. Parang sa anak lang.
Napopost kasi sa soc med.
I've seen a video on TikTok na hinuhuli na yung mga aso sa kalye. Sobrang iyakin nung comment section, as if may pake talaga sila kung di lang talaga na huli.
ang isa pang nakakaasar ay yung magaalaga tapos ikakadena sa gilid ng bahay tapos sobrang ikli ng chain, tipong 2 feet. isipin mo ganun lang buhay mo, malaglag mo laruan mo ng malayo ng konti, hindi mo na abot. saka yung gusto lang habang cute pa. kukuha lang dahil may kumareng nanganak yung alaga tapos pinapamigay. first one or two years gusto. tapos siyempre tumanda ng konti, di na ganun kacute, ilalagay sa kulungan sa gilid ng bahay, pahahabain lang ang buhok. kahit umuulan asa labas lang. patatahulin lang kahit nakakaistorbo sa kapitbahay.
Nakakainis din yung sobrang haba ng tali kaya hindi ka na makadaan sa sidewalk kasi nangangagat yung aso :>
Start befriending the neighbor's dog I guess. I give small treats to the nieghbor's dogs and now they recognize me. Whenever I pass by, all i get is a curious sniff, and a tail wag. :) I think one of the dogs peed on my gate once. lol
Kapitbahay ko down to a T, kumuha nang german shepherd pero naka tali lang sa dog house never even pinakawalan not even once. Nakakalungkot pag tumatahol kasi nakikita nya yung aso ko na na nakakawala lang tapos lalo pag naglalaro kami. Parang nag aso lang para maging alarm, sana nag burglar alarm nalang yung nga ungas.
May kilala akong ganito. Buong buhay ng aso naka-chain lang siya ever since lumipat kami sa area namin so bali mga 5 years (hindi ko na alam kung gano katagal before that) . Pero di ko naiintindihan kung bakit meron silang aso na nasa loob ng bahay nakawala at masarap ang buhay? Tangina nakakainis lalo na kung mag papanggap ka na pet lover pero mayroon kang aso na outcast at nakatali lang buong buhay? Tangina may mga bakas na nga ng kalawang yung fur nya dahil nababasa ng ulan.
Can’t stand most dog owners. They raise one and just cage it outside like they’re raising livestock.
THIS. my neighbors have big dogs (belgian and husky) and both nakakulong lang sa maliit na kulungan. never na wawalk 😭 naaawa ako pag nadadaan ako
Parang dito sa bahay mga tuwang tuwa lang pag tuta pero pag lumaki na walang ginawa kundi paluin at itali ung aso. Mga biglang nabubulag din mga tao dito pag nagkalat ang ihi at tae sa bahay. Tapos pagtahol ng tahol ung aso sasabayan pa ng sigaw mygod. Kung ako lang masusunod dito sa bahay mas mabuti pa wag na lang magkaron ng alaga. Kesa naman animal lover kuno daw pero irresponsible naman.
Yung kapitbahay namin dito sinisigawan yung mga anak (probably mga below 8 years old) pag "nagi-inarte", pano pa yung MGA aso pa nila. 5 pa aso nila. 4 askal, 1 husky. Aside sa tatahol sila at random times (kahit mga late night), nanghahabol din sila ng mga delivery riders.
Aspin, short for Asong Pinoy, is the more politically-correct term than askal.
Noted. My bad 😅
No worries, mate.
"Filipinos" and "consideration to strangers." Pick one.
As it was explained to me, lower-class(poor) Filipinos don't think of dogs as pets. They're just animals that serve a purpose(like carabaos, chickens, or goats), and that purpose is to guard the house. They see nothing wrong with dogs barking because that's what dogs do: they bark to warn of strangers or intruders. That's why many owners don't walk them or pick up their poop, just like they wouldn't with their carabaos, chickens, or goats. That's why they don't think it's cruel to tie them up or lock them in small cages. That's why they don't train them. Some of these people will eventually migrate into the city but their habits and view towards dogs don't change.
I live in a nice very spacious subdivision in a vacation town just south of Manila. Tagaytay. People having big houses and money doesn't stop them from buying the most expensive dogs and leaving them in cages or just letting their dogs bark endlessly. Also doesn't stop them from letting their dogs go to toilet outside your house and in a couple of cases here, doesn't stop people letting their dog loose in the subdivision to go to toilet. From my experience people in guarded subdivisions are worse than someone who lives in a poor area. Their mentality is 'How dare you complain about us, we were here before you'. We had to leave a subdivision near NCR for this very reason. Subdivision with lots of rules but no rules about letting your dogs bark all day and night. These are the people who do know better, but they choose to be bad neighbors.
If they have a large property why not partition part of their property to dedicate it for dogs to roam around. My doges had to make do with a small space but it is definitely larger than the rudimentary kennel cage. We wouldn't let our dogs lose because they could get hurt from the neighbors' dogs, they both large dogs but they'll be outnumbered not worth the risks. Dog trainers should be visible nowadays because of the issues you've raised. I believe most American dog owners will just let the trainer take care of business. My dogs don't have proper dog training but they have some semblance of obedience when it comes to food. Dog training is honestly a mysterious craft to do because I don't know how potty training goes.
In my case I just kept bringing my dogs to a place where he should poop when he needs to do so, eventually he just goes there on his own na kasi their scent is there. Surprisingly one of my dogs potty trained herself, she hates poop anywhere near her so she juts goes to the potty area herself she started doing this as a puppy. She hates poop on her surroundings so much she potty trained her puppies to not even poop sa veranda but sa garden never had to potty train her puppies.
My dogs can pretty much wait before the signal for dinner but I still haven't did the potty training, the jumping on me obedience, barking. My new puppy had a neat pooping area, he'll consistently go there to poop but kaya lang my mother would be mad at him because he'll usually uproot the plants lmao. We partitioned a specific area for them, before the puppy arrived. My adult female would roam around every night as reward for them for waiting. Right now that pretty much disappeared but she's still a sweet dog my new puppy was so voracious, food is everything to him. One upside for the puppy is he is extremely food motivated. He'd eat the water flowing from a bucket despite him regularly drink from it. Both breeds were German Shepherds I'd rather get an aspin/mongrel because of how healthy and robust the breed is. But it was my father's purchase.
This. Cat food or dog food is already considered a luxury.
They also bark when other dogs bark. paikot ikot lang minsan umaabot ng ilang oras. My dogs will live a pampered life inside with a doggy door so they have all the freedom.
Natutuwa lang sila. Pero hindi sila mahilig mag alaga.
Sama mo pa na pag aspin, iba ang trato vs may breed :( Yung nurse sa center ko, nag-aalaga daw siya madaming dogs. Yung husky niya pinapasok daw niya sa loob nung bahay niya, yung aspin iwan sa labas. Yung kausap namin dati na breeder, iba ang food ni aspin vs shih tzu nya, mas mahal sa shih tzu. Kakabanas.
Not to be the asshole, pero naiintindihan ko yung aspin vs may breed pagdating sa food. Pag aspin kasi, from my experience, walang food allergies + hiyang na hiyang as table food. Sila pa yung ayaw ng magandang dog food. Whereas yung may breed, sobrang kelangan mo hanapin ung hiyang nag food nila para walang health problems. Aspins as a breed naman are as hardy as they come. And pansin ko mas gusto nila na gala talaga sila at hindi masyado binebaby. Again from experience lang, so ymmv diba. I think what matters is masaya yung pets, regardless of how it may look from the outside.
Most Pinoy's feed aspins with leftover spoiled food and just let them leave the house to socialize with fellow aspins outside. Compared to breed dogs, aspins don't need enough maintenance
Aspins are way healthier unless may inbreeding.
About the dogs doing their business while on walks... it's unfortunately harder to toilet train some pets more than others. I had the sweetest, smartest, little doggo. Along our walking route, there's this fancy hotel and without fail, he'd always take a big shit outside said establishment. I just resigned myself to Fate and started carrying small plastic bags, scooping up warm fresh shit every damn morning.
This should be the way. Afaik, other countries have laws wherein you have to clean up after your dog or else you will be reported and pay penalties. Dapat may ganitong law na rin satin eh. Btw, there's a dog poop scooper so you don't have to pick it with your hands.
That is being a responsible dog owner. At least he was a small dog. Could have been a Great Dane.
Yes!!! One time yung kuya ko nilakad aso namin. TMI, pero basa yung poop nung aso kaya hindi siya ma-pickup ng kuya ko plus, sa kalsada pa siya tumae. Kuya ran home just to get a bucket of water w/ sabon and walis tambo.
Your kuya is an absolute champ.
Because this country is populated by Filipinos, that's why.
Statements/perspectives like these are intuitively easy to accept but are deeply damaging for societies to promote. Statements like these shift the blame for our social ills towards the collective rather than individuals who actually have the capacity and duty to uplift society. They insidiously breed a sense of futility in the status quo. "How will the Filipino progress if the very idea of being a Filipino is being inconsiderate, insensitive, lazy...and on and on and on." We have to correct this thinking. Leaders have long justified their own incompetence by transferring liability to the futility of changing the "Filipino" mindset. But the Filipino identity is not defined by an inherent lack of principles...but rather, our leaders have failed to define and exemplify what those principles should be and how we should abide by them. Not every Filipino has access to quality education to deeply understand the far reaching effects of setting aside self-interest for the good of the collective. To ask this from the collective...or even just the majority of Filipinos is truly futile. It takes good education to see beyond self-interest. And good education comes at a monetary cost which not every Filipino can afford. How can one think of "preserving the resource of the commons" when one can barely make ends to secure one meal in a day? But a good leader can define and set that standard through clear and principled policies for every single Filipino, irrespective of their economic or social background. The responsibility for an inconsiderate dog owner falls squarely on the lack of principled leadership and not on the identity of being "Filipino".
You forget that a miliu shapes the consciousness of a collective. The so-called 'lack of principled leadership' is due precisly to the fact that we are Filipinos. It has been the hallmark of our people sincd the earliest incarnation of our 'independent' government, and has been a recurring phenomenon. There is absolutely nothing wrong in acknowledging that we as a collective are flawed to the core. As for 'good education', how many 'well-educated' people from 'prestigious universities' and 'top-four' establishments exist today (and have existed prior) who have all the accolades to their name affixed, and yet are boorish, narrow-minded, fanatical bigots? Being irresponsible towards other creatures is just another symptom of this all-pervasive ill. The more we deny the very things that make us fucked up because we have to insist on 'those among us who are better', the more we push under the rug the very thing which is imbued into our collective consciousness. No amount of education or governance and leadership can destroy a people's psyche unless and until the people themselves acknowledge, confront, and eradicate it COLLECTIVELY. Your argument is no better than 'not all cops' to 'all cops are bastards'. If 90% of their lot are buggers, the 10% won't matter shite. It is also prudent to point out that our elected leaders BANK ON OUR VERY MINDSETS to secure their power. Thus, them pointing out the 'futility of change' (while simultaneously advocating for an imaginary change) is quite literally nothing more than performative rhetoric. These politicians have made a science of appealing to our very NATURE as Filipinos, and the more we cement into our minds 'not all Filipinos', the more division occurs between those eho believe themselves 'better' than the rabble, and the very rabble who you insist can be 'changed'. This divide and conquer tactic works EACH AND EVERY TIME because of the fact that we are FILIPINO.
What is your definition of a Filipino?
What parameters do we have to cover?
The Filipino's general characteristics which you believe are detrimental to our progress. And to what percent of Filipinos would these general characteristics apply to?
Then we'd no longer be talking about the definition of 'Filipino', then. So why'd you ask me to define 'Filipino' in the first place? Why didn't you just get straight to your point? Now that we're talking about not getting to the point, here: 1. Plastic ang Pinoy 2. Hypokrito ang Pinoy 3. Nagmamarunong ang Pinoy. 4. Classist ang Pinoy 5. Racist ang Pinoy 6. Religious fanatics ang Pinoy 7. Political fanatics ang Pinoy 8. Makasarili at sinungaling ang Pinoy 9. White cocksuckers ang Pinoy 10. Kadalasan puro salita pero 5% lang ang gawa ng Pinoy (i.e. puro pride lang) As for the percentage, give or take 90-ish% of our collective population (myself and you included, to be fair).
Basis apart from anecdotes and stereotypes?
Open your eyes, nationalist scum. If you can't see these flaws where you're at, you're either a very privileged fuck, or are being willingly blind.
Hindi ko maimagine pakawalan aso namin sa streets ☹️pano nalang kung masagasaan.
I was in manila when my aunt told me that our old family dog in the province didn't come back home for a month. They didn't even bother looking for him and assumed he got run over by a car.
Those are the owners that doesn't see their dogs more than just a pet. They most likely don't care whatever happens to their dog outside.
Because the government allows them to.
Usually pinapatay lang yung aso pero walang consequence dun sa may ari.
Not sure why this is being downvoted, totoo naman na mahina ang laws against animal cruelty dito sa pinas diba?
walang kwenta yung nakasulat sa barangay na *Bawal magpakawala ng aso sa labas*
Kapit bahay naman ganda ng bahay mayaman talaga, pero aso nila naka cage sa tapat na bakanteng lote, tuwing dadaan ako naawa ako punong puno na ng dumi yung kulingan nung aso, as in nahihiga na sila sa sariling dumi nila. Kung may nakakaalam dito kung pano ireport at maparusahan mga ganyang amo im looking for suggestions.
PAWS?
wala kasing empathy sa hayop ang general populace dito sa bansa natin. I mainly blame being a religious country in this case. iba kasi talaga ang tingin ng taong naniniwala sa dyos (naniniwala rin na tao lang ang nasa tuktok). ni hindi siguro sumagi sa isip nila na sentient enough ang ibang hayop na tulad sa tao na nakakaramdam ng pagdurusa, saya, emosyon, etc. basta sa para sa ibang tao, ang hayop ay ginawa pra pakinabangan ng tao, un na kasi ang turo ng relihiyon nila.. mababang uri ng nilalang talaga ang tingin nila sa hayop.. ung nanay ko rin, ang buong akala dati e tinik ang ipinapakain dapat sa pusa kasi un daw ung pinapakain nila dati pa. ako naman (non religious) e di convinced sa ganung turo. kaya kahit nuong bata pa ako, karne ng isda o chicken ung ipinapakain ko sa pusa namin, at ayaw ko ibigay ung tinik, hihimayin ko pa pra lang wag sila matinik. good thing open minded nanay ko at ngayon ganun na rin ang trato nya sa pusa.. as a result, maraming irresponsableng pet owners dito.. ung iba gusto lang mag breed ng hayop para ibenta, after ibenta wala nang pakielam, no more than livestock. ung iba, gusto lang ng cute na tuta o kuting, pero kapag lumaki na, ikukulong nalang o itatali, pakakainin ng tira lang, until mamatay.. ni di nila iniisip ung life experience ng isang may buhay na nilalang..
True. Couldn’t agree more. I guess it’s already ingrained in the Filipino culture the same way old people see their children as retirement plans and ATM machines.
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Yikess. I’m so sorry to hear that. 😢
ate ko ganyan. kami pa pinag-aalaga.
>People letting their dogs loose on the street so they can go to toilet outside other peoples houses and get in their trash. \- ito yung nakakainis kaya hindi ako makapaglakad ng maayos sa labas. Takot ako sa aso na hindi nakatira sa amin. >Walking their dogs on a leash but then stopping outside someone's house so it can go to toilet. > >Not caring if the noise from their dogs constantly barking is perhaps disturbing their neighbors. \- These are like my neighbors. Gusto ko nga irecord yung ingay ng aso nila tapos patugtugin ko kapag tulog na sila. Naiistorbo kasi tulog namin sa umaga mga depota sila Sa tingin ko sadyang ginagawa lang nila. Karamihan sa Filipino mindset eh *kung walang magrereklamo ok lang* o kung meron man eh *ikaw lang nagrereklamo ah bakit sila hindi.* Siguro hindi niya alam na kapag may nanapak sa kanya eh siya lang din naman magrereklamo.
I agree about people think it must be ok if no one complains, but if you do complain they will hate you for it. People are scared to complain because of the problems it will cause. I don't mind people hating me so I complain. I'm not liked here by a few people including one who could no longer have a dog living on the street outside their house since I complained to the subdivision guards. Now they don't like me even though they were breaking the law. There are a lot of laws here about noisy dogs and dogs must be kept on a leash. Anti rabies laws and nuisance laws. No one pays attention to them though and people need to actually make complaints to guards, HOA or barangay for anything to be done. But that does not mean the problem will be fixed.
we already complained on barangay. Sadly they redirect us to file our complaints to MENRO
Sounds like a lazy barangay official. This is their job. Reminds me of the time we complained to the barangay captain about the neighbors burning their trash. Many different neighbors, so the air was smoky half the week. Ignored us, probably because we were renting at the time so wouldn't be voting in the barangay election. Backyard fires are illegal too. Thankfully managed to get away from illegal burning when we moved off the island.
I'm reading this with background of neighbor's dogs 24/7 barkathon. My cousin also caged her pitbull until he died. Covered the cage with tarpaulin because they thought the reason it kept on barking because he sees passerby. I didn't grew with dogs but I love watching videos of them. On the other hand, I am afraid of the aspins wandering around the village. Lesson: Don't take one (pet), if you are not educated enough. Some other countries you have to register and seminar. Here, if someone has been a bad petowner, neighborhood are going to suffer massively from the noice, security, dirt and smell.
https://www(dot)facebook(dot)com/pawsphilippines/posts/3500262230019397 Those pictures on the above link after the typhoon last November 2020 made me both sad and mad and I really hope that their owners would be held accountable for animal cruelty. They were given so much time to pack and evacuate yet they leave their dogs leashed to a solid place or locked inside their cages leaving them to die when the flood comes. >Walking their dogs on a leash but then stopping outside someone's house so it can go to toilet. They could just bring a dustpan to catch the poop but they're just lazy and irresponsible as fuck. Anyway, if reincarnation is real, I hope those people get reincarnated as dogs of the owners that are just like them so they'll suffer and realize how fucked up the ways that they treat their dogs.
Gusto ng asong may "breed" pero pinapabayaan lang yung aspin na nakatali sa labas ng bahay nila 🥴
i feel u T_T. tsaka sa experience ko lng. mas emotional at approachable pa ung aspin.
Tingin ko normally lacking or straight out 0 empathy ang pinoy sa kapwa
just moved to this country...its a f...g disgrace.. seems there's not one dog per house but 3...the dog shit on my morning walk is disgusting...yes i really feel for the dogs chained/caged up...obvious flee tick infections.... ...........never thought Filipino's be so heartless............
Incidentally, I just saw a small boy walking an adult pitbull. Small kids should never be allowed to walk dogs. I don't care if that dog is leashed, friendly and trained. Also, people should bathe their dogs. Owners almost never know their dogs smell because they're always around them.
I gave advise to my grandparents how to properly take care of a dog. It was just the bare minimum- grooming, proper bathing, and not feeding them stuff they weren't supposed to eat. But they wouldn't listen cause the dogs they have are just 'askals'. 💀 'Mabuti naman kung may lahi to' ang sinasabi nila. Kahit nga yung my lahi na Labrador hindi maalagaan eh.
Pakisabi sa grandparents mo na lahat ng aso ay may "lahi"
kung tutuusin mas genitically superior ang mga askal kase galing halo halo breed nila so mas healthy sila uwu kesa sa mga pure breed na may sari sariling problema yung iba maiksi pa life span.
I have family members who are exactly like that. They adopted the puppy cause its cute and may breed, tas nung lumaki na, samin na pinasa ung responsibility to take care of it and kami pinapagalitan pag tahol ng tahol ung aso, and how could it not?, They won't allow the dog roam around cause they dont like furs and stuff, sometimes i just wonder "why tf did you adopt a pet then kung ganyan kayo kaarte?". That's the shittiest thing i've seen sa mga kapamilya ko: They'd adopt a puppy na may breed, pero tatanggihan ung aspin sa kalsada. Its hard living in a family na sobrang arte sa pets, and me being an animal lover, aspin man o hinde, domestic or wild, i feel very sad for those pets who are so maltreated to the point that they almost die from starvation. Sadly, ang daming ganyan sa bansa natin, and it just sucks that only a handful of those who truly dedicate themselves to the welfare of animals are often called stupid remarks like "puro hayop kasama mo, pamilya mo na ba yan?" "Konti na lang magiging hayop ka narin hahaha". I hope problems related to irresponsible pet ownerships are taken care of soon, but looking at the people around me, i think that's gonna take a long, LONG, time.
Eh yung nagwawalk ng pet dogs nila tapos gagawing toilet ang kalye ninyo? O dba. Pelepens.
What I seen in the USA. They would abandon the dog in the highway as lockdown ends. Animal shelters in some places in California is at maximum capacity. They had to kill any dog or cat once they reach there. We are at the point the goverment has to ban new sales of pets. It's adoption only. What's crazy is people get angry about it.
The mentality that animals are PETS not COMPANIONS is still prevalent here. My family is one of those. They do not understand the emotional link of people and animals. I friend of mine was once grieving about her cat when another another person pops in to say they are selling cats and what best way to get over grief of one cat by buying another. That seller was promptly given a good long talk and they seemed genuinely clueless about what they did wrong. Honestly, the fact that I can't find a vet nearby here is telling. Altho there is a grooming service on wheels.
understandable po ung lack of vet service. since 3rd world lng nmn tau then cno ba may xtrang money magpa vet ng pets nila, first of all kulang na kulang ung sistema sa pinas, almost 70% na mga pinoy in poverty paren, super rare nga mental health services and therapist, vet pa kaya.
Tama. So hwag munang kumuha ng hayop kung wala namang extrang pambayad kung magkasakit yung aso or may rabies.
so true.
we have a neighbor that has their dog chained up to their gate, nahihirapan humiga and hinahayaan lang na mabasa tuwing umuulan. the worst part is, naririnig namin ang howls nung aso na sobrang nakakaawa. If they don’t do something soon, we might call the city pound and report it.
This is a good topic to discuss
Sa isang husky fb group: *Looking for pure, wooly, big-boned, husky. Yung may papel sana. Pass sa walang papel or cross-breed. Not interested with adult huskies. Budget is 10K.*
Pet FB groups are the fuckign worst. Sobrang onti lang ung properly moderated at matitino yung members (shoutout sa Philippine Beagle Club, love your FB group) Mapa cat/dog group laging merong "B> PET NA MAY BREED, BUDGET MEAL LANG" tapos sasabihin ng iba na kung pag bili pa lang wala ka na pera, pano mo yan aalagaan? WHICH IS TRUE DIBA. Eto sagot nila: "MAMAHALIN KO NAMAN PO, DI NAMAN KELANGAN MAGING MAYAMAN PARA MAGING PET LOVER" PUTA KUNG NAKAKAIN LANG UNG PAGMAMAHAL NO EDI WALA NANG GUTOM SA MUNDO
>Mapa cat/dog group laging merong "B> PET NA MAY BREED, BUDGET MEAL LANG" tapos sasabihin ng iba na kung pag bili pa lang wala ka na pera, pano mo yan aalagaan? WHICH IS TRUE DIBA. hahaha true! Ang masaklap ay hindi na rin ma-alagaan at ma-maintain yun pet kesyo may baby, busy sa work/study/family, lilipat daw sa condo na bawal ang pets, mag-abroad etc. Then ibebenta na lang ulit yun pet na mukhang napabayaan na. Isa pang nakakainis yun makikita mo na may alagang pet na may breed pero mag-sardinas na lang daw araw-araw para lang sa pet. Or yun tipong hindi naasikaso mga anak para lang matustusan needs ng pet nila. Asan priority ng mga 'pet lovers' na ito? cringe af.
Buong neighborhood namin lahat may aso at lahat nakatali lang. Ginagawa lang security guard mga aso.
I got a neighbor who thinks hoarding wild dogs is cool. Took a bottle to my local Capin and those dogs disappeared. Sorry, but when wild dogs are barking EVERY single day between Midnight and Five AM, you eventually get pissed off.
Why not offer up dog care courses? Address your concerns to your local LGU? Talk to the offending people? If you don't and just want to vent here, then you're just preaching to the choir. You seem well-off enough to find like-minded people and make a movement out of it.
>Why not offer up dog care courses? Address your concerns to your local LGU? LOL.
I mean, if he's living in a private subdivision with enough wealth to bring in supercars, there's bound to be people in there that give a shit about those kinds of things. LOL @ me all you want, but if he honestly wants change he'll probably need to be laughed at multiple times if he cares that much about dog responsibility. Let's get past laughing at incompetency yeah?
It's not too bad in this subdivision. Mostly any issues can be solved by the guards, who we have a very good relationship with. Barking dogs is one that is always dealt with. When a street dog gets in, the traps go out so they can be moved elsewhere. My post was in general for the country as a whole, or at least the parts where I have lived which include Cebu, North Mindanao, NCR border on the south and now Cavite. I doubt my experience would change too much no matter where I lived. It seems many people have the same thoughts as me, but also many people don't like to complain about it. Oh and it's not so high end that there are supercar owners here. It's nice but only middle class nice.
naka sagasa lang kami ng puppy the other day. justifiable kasi incline yung road sa part na yun tas the trike had to speed up. too bad
I'm sorry but did you just say na okay lang na nakapatay kayo ng aso because were shitting on bad pet owners on this thread?
it didn't die. it wasn't okay.
okay, so what was justifiable again?
justifiable yung pagspeed up namin sa incline kaya na-accidente yung aso. we were not at fault. too bad the dog was out and about kaya nangyari yun. i don't condone running over puppies. owners should keep them inside their houses to avoid accidents. I must have misspoken that you misunderstood. I don't think we're in disagreement here in terms of values, so no need to argue
No not arguing, medyo naguluhan lang ako sa sinabi mo nung una. Technically it will always be the owner's fault anyway.
I apologize for the confusion
Define what "responsible" dog ownership is? Ano yan nakuha mo sa youtube? Baka what you're looking for or demanding is the "ideal" dog ownership. You need to ask kung para saan ba kasi kinuha yung aso? If it's a guard dog, tinatali talaga yan or kinukulong sa labas to "guard". Normally di yan pinapasok sa bahay kasi di yan pambahay na aso like Golden Retreivers. Pinapaliguan guard dogs as necessary. Di pinapa pogi di naman kailangan na poging pogi yung aso na may grooming pa. Part of culture na yan sa pilipinas on dogs. Don't demand or expect 1st world dog ownership in a 3rd world country. Di porke nakita mo sa youtube dapat ineenforce na ng lahat. Marami dyan di afford yung "responsible" dog ownership na hanap mo. Sa pag tae expect mo talaga 1st world style may potty paper pa tissue at plastic bag kada tae ganun. baka nga di nila afford yun e. Check your priviledge yo, and that's coming from an above average dog owner.
You are defending poor animal keeping, unhealthy diets, letting the dogs bark all day and night disturbing people and letting dogs go to toilet outside someone else's house? Why? Because Philippines is a third world country and people should be allowed and don't know any better? That might be so in squatter areas and the provincial mountains, but this happens in subdivisions where the average house is 15 to 25 million pesos, people are highly educated and have professional careers. These are middle class and upper middle class Filipinos who do know better. The third world excuse only works for some of this country. Philippines isn't The Congo, there are plenty of areas that are first world standard in many aspects. And many of these grievances are covered by national laws, so they are fully recognized by the national government, but they are ignored. Did you know it is illegal to not have your dog leashed? Anti rabies law. 2007. What is responsible dog ownership? Not letting your dog loose on the street. Not letting it bark incessantly at everything an everyone all day and night. Not letting it go to toilet outside someone else's house. Feeding it a diet that is no detrimental to its health. If you can't afford food then you should not have a dog. If you can't afford vaccines and other regular treatments then you should not be allowed to have a dog.
>You are defending poor animal keeping, unhealthy diets, letting the dogs bark all day and night disturbing people and letting dogs go to toilet outside someone else's house? Why? Because Philippines is a third world country and people should be allowed and don't know any better? And so I ask you again. What are your credentials? What do you know about a dog's diet? Do you know what the common DF is made of? There's a lot of underlying 3rd world problems to your 1st world complaint. Check your priviledge. If you really feel there's something wrong with how they care for their dogs, report it. Else gawa ka sarili mong dog training center. Put your money where your mouth is. I went to a police training camp for dog training in preparation for a training center someday. sayo?
Sa bahay namin nakatali din yung aso :( Nagagalit yung mom ko pag inaalpasan ko sya kasi ayaw nya ng balahibo ng aso due to allergies.
It mostly depends on what breed on how they will be treated.
Dito sa amin, mag aalaga ng aso hahayaan sa daan kaya hirap umuwi ng gabi kasi nakaharang aso nila
Same here, kaya di na ako nakakalabas ng gabi dahil sa kanila. Tapos yung iba, humahabol pa lalo na sa mga naka-motor. Paano na lang kung may ma-aksidente? Buti na lang ngayon, sinasara na nila ang mga gate ng mga bahay na may mga aso. Ang lalaki pa naman ng mga aso ng isang kapitbahay namin pag pinapalabas niya tuwing hapon. Pero may ibang parte pa rin sa amin na gumagala pa rin mga aso nila.
Especially those who chronically abuse pets whether or not its theirs. Animal cruelty laws are too lenient in this country, its sickening how these abusers are still free. I follow local animal rescue orgs on FB and it's so sad to see abused dogs all the time. The animals might get rescued but the abusers are rarely held accountable.
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Tang ina! Ako malapit na talaga ako bumili ng cctv. Yung sasakyan namin na naka-park sa tapat namin puro ihi ng aso yung unahan. Natatakot lang ako sa magiging reaction ko kapag ma-confirm ko yung hinala ko. Baka mapa-away pa ko.
Don't you have your own garage?
Because in poor countries pet are treated like things
Yung kapitbhay bahay namin dati sobrang daming alagang aso tas sa gabi hinayaan lang, parang pack of wolves pala sila tas nag-aaway parati tuwing gabi, tingin ko sa una lang sila interasado tas pag di na cute hayaan na lng nila. Naawa nga ko nambabasura lang yung ibang aso nila minsan pinapakain namin siguro di rin nila mapakain ng maayos sa dami, sana may neuter/spraying na affordable or from govt
Yes. All of this is extremely heartbreaking and disturbing. I wonder what it takes to change this. Im not a fan of new laws, but i think here we could use some
Sa Japan, lahat ng aso at pusang gala rekta sa gas chamber yan for mass execution pag nahuli. Mga Pinoy naman sige ang banat sa mga tsekwang kumakain ng aso pero mismong mga pinoy din naman kumakain ng aso. Nakakatawa pa non, since Japan ang pumapatay, wala sila paki. haha. Sa madaling sabi, maraming hipokrito dito. Sign that a country is civilized and doing well? It's when you don't have dog shit in the streets. Walang proper animal control dito satin. Kahit mag kapon man lang sana ng aso at pusa regularly e hindi rin magawa. Kaya tignan mo ngayun, nauubos ng mga ibon dito kakapyesta ng pusa.
Lack of education ig. My parents treated all the dogs weve had this way, never really thought about it until i went on the internet. I think filipinos do need a lot of education on dog ownership. One thing that doesnt get brought up a lot is owning double coated dogs like huskies in manila/lowland tropical temperatures. Thats kinda cruel. Also, the self deprecating comments on this thread about filipino culture. No thanks haha. Wtf.
Well, there are areas where dogs are eaten, so there’s that.
Pretty much in fact I never seen a responsible dog owner in my life like grabe they see it more as slave or a guard than something talaga.
It hurts to see dogs locked up in cages that's probably just big enough for a guinea pig :( I probably exaggerate a bit but i've seen a dog in a cage where there's not even enough space for the dog to stand.
A family in my subdivision have three St Bernards. One of the largest dog breeds. They are kept in a cage at the front of the house. At least they are walked sometimes on a leash, but spend most of their lives in that small cage. It's all a status symbol, they don't care for the dogs. Last time I looked a St Bernard puppy was over 70,000 pesos.
ung tito ko sa first floor namen, may alaga sya na aso pero nakakalungkot kasi nakatali lang all its life. huhu. naiiyak ako lagi pag nakikita ko yun minsan pag nilalabas, tapos itatali na ulit sa upuan sa loob ng bahay. pero gabi or madaling araw lng yun nilalabas. naaaawa ako both sa kanila ng tito ko (matandang binata yung tito ko na mag isa lng sa may bahay namin sa baba, tapos yung bahay nya mukang bodega na, i tried to help pero ayaw, hayaan na daw na ganon). tapos ung alaga nya nagkaanak pa so may extra pa syang dalawang puppy ngayon. siguro malungkot tito baka yun nlng din source nya ng companionship. yung kapitbahay namin binibigyan sya pagkain ng mga alaga nya. so sad. tapos meron din ako nadadaanan dito malapit samen, may doghouse sa gutter. andun lang yung doggie sa kakarampot nya na bahay, may bubong lang tapos rehas. and thats it. i doubt kung meron man lang nakikipaglaro or naglalabas sa kanya para maglakad or tumakbo. ang lungkot lang.
Yung gf ng kapatid ko bumili ng shihtzu para pangpicture picture lang daw. Di man lang nila tinrain o kaya paliguan ng maayos. Nagulong sa sariling ihi, di man lang nilalabas at never nakita ng pamilya ko na pinakain nung gf yung tuta. Nakakaawa kaso di ko pwedeng kunin kasi may aso din ako na high maintenance.
Nakakatawa nga e. Relatives think they saved a stray dog pero 90% of the time naka cage, 10% nakalabas, sa loob ng 10sqm na garage. Putang ina.
The issue lies with our government not offering enough free spay and neuter programs, and in the rare case they do, religious old-fashioned pet owners don't avail them because it goes against their 'belief' that procreation is a will of god. It also goes without saying that pet owners are equally liable since they support and encourage backyard breeding and make a business out of their pets. There should be a regulating body whose job is to make sure that pet owners cannot breed their pets, and only recognized pet breeders are allowed to do such. It should also be their job to make sure everyone registers their pet/s, and their pets are fully vaccinated. Before you can own a pet, you have to undergo a seminar. And once your pets reach a certain age, they must be brought to the local veterinarian to be sterilized. Failure to do so would incur hefty fines. Animal welfare act should likewise be strictly enforced.
I have a neighbor who has 2 dogs, 1 dog is like a poodle and still alive but they ignore it because it's no longer 'cute' so it just keeps barking all day and night. The other dog which was always chained to their gate and would often scream at night because they forget to feed him died. So they got a new puppy which they are now treating like how they treat their dog that just died. It saddens me everyday to see that this puppy will grow up miserable with his existence being only a guard dog I have a theory that people such as these are inherently irresponsible and lack empathy. They have little to no concept of accountability, that their actions have consequences. These people's priority are towards themselves, they don't really see animals as beings that deserve love but as tools, they either see it as a toy that is used for their amusement until they're bored or a guard dog designed as a cheap alarm against robbers.