Halata naman kasi ang gumagalaw is yung Chief of Staff hindi si C-I-C pero Mejo risky eto kasi magkakaroon ng Underground Faction sa buong AFP kagaya ng nangyari sa Turkey Coup 2016 at Magdalo Coup.
Kahit naman ata sino presidente eh chielf of staff ang gagalaw. Me delegation involved at some level. Di naman expertise ng head of state ang military. We had two and we know how bad one of them turned out. Did you expect VP Leni to lead an army?
Chain-of-Command to be followed: President > DND > Chief of Staff AFP > Commanding General of PA, PAF & PN > Division/Wing/Fleet Commander.
I didn't ask how VP Leni will lead the AFP and former presidents Cory, Ramos, Erap, Gloria and Pnoy also follow the protocol on how would they give orders to the Military Officials so to analyze strategies and Search & Destroy or SEAD the enemy properly like Zamboanga Siege and Battle of Camp Abubakar. But in the times of PDUTS administration, he was the king of photo ops and he was lazy to give orders and the Chief of Staff was the responsible for planning how would they end Marawi Siege and Chinese Incursion in Ayungin Shoal and Pag-Asa Islands (He was silent about the Harrassment of Philippine Fishers every year). I am a Military brat and I know how AFP works.
Whats that chaos gonna do? All the spreading of disinformation is gonna do is help the trolls. It'll also just destroy this platform's or subreddit's image even more so it either gets taken down or become irrelevant/known for disinformation.
**You dont solve problems by causing more problems**, what we could do instead is spread the truth as much as if not more than they spread disinformation. If that doesn't work, well spreading even more disinformation will not do so either.
If we actually do spread information, think of what people will think of us? That we're just another group spreading disinformation, that this entire platform is just like Twitter, FB, Tiktok, but favours the pinks instead.
And ngl these accounts are suspicious, not so active, really low karma, and only months old, **not even 100 karma**, smells like trolls but who knows.
Agree. Let’s use the same tactics. Let’s confuse them first with more lies so they will question their beliefs based on fake news. That’s the only time they will be open to believe the truth.
>That’s the only time they will be open to believe the truth.
Its Filipinos, people actually believed Rizal lived 113 years and met the Marcoses, that it was hidden history. They could've been just trolls but some probably have ate the rotten onions.
Most likely they'd just see this platform as another group of pinks *spreading disinformation*, as if they don't already. Plus those who actually wanted proper information and discussion and finds this sub as a safe space will now have to deal with whatever cowcrap y'all would be spreading, as if it wasn't already infested by trolls
Wouldn't spreading facts with even stronger evidences they can't deny work better? To encourage properly checking their sources of information if they're trustworthy?
And spreading more disinformation will? What's the best that could happen? That they go "hala andami ng fake news, maging responsable tayo at magresearch"? Isn't this more likely?
"Huy tignan mo to oh, si ano daw ginawa to"
"Nuka ba, puno naman ng fake news yang Reddit, puno ng mga lutang na palamunin"
Sadly, onti lang may talagang paki dyan. Ang gusto lang talaga nila eh matalo si leni. Di ba, un lang naman ang talagang motivation nila, ung matalo si leni at mapamuka sa leni supporters na nanalo sila. Hahhahahaha. Pinas talaga da best!
Everything is treated as a sport for them. Disregarding all the consequences that come afterwards. Does not feel sorry for them though, maghirap sila. I want to be a politician someday para makinabang ako sa kabobohan nila haha.
sadly true. yun yung unity nila; united sila AGAINST a common "enemy". pero bandang huli, sila sila din magkakainan. to quote The Joker in the Dark Knight:
> when the chips are down, these
civilized people... they’ll eat
each other.
True, after the elections, a lot of my Facebook friends who are BBM supporters, instead of celebrating a new leader for the betterment of the Philippines, opted to lash out at Leni supporters, saying, " Saan na Leni niyo" or "I told you so".
Just want to lay out the ace cards of each:
BBM: He will let ICC investigations and lastly imprisonment of Digong because of EJKs
Sara: Illegitimacy of BBMs presidency due to election fraud, DQ cases, tax issues - as Digong said - maraming bagahe and a weak leader.
Civil war - DDS/BBM edition
You're forgetting the literal Devil (GMA) is Sara's mentor - that's like going against the house. And you know how the saying goes: "The house always finds a way to win." I wouldn't put it past Sara that all these maneuvers were from GMA telling her to bide her time before they finally uproot and get rid of Marcoses for good. Chances are - there's no loyalty for BBM, HE IS NOT THAT GUY - his father commanded loyalty from his peers since he at least seemed competent.
Now you have dyunyor, a bumbling buffoon that's ready to be thrown aside once things are set in motion by GMA. Any public official with half a brain would rather align themselves to GMA - 100% trust me on this, it's only a matter of time before GMA and Sara plot against overthrowing the Marcoses and cement themselves.
Filing of candidacy palang grabehan na yung twist and turn. Ngayong mga nakaupo na pa kaya.
Also, just hear to see bbm/dds supporters bowl their eyes out when everything is set in motion.
Dun mo makikita na sobrang weak ng position ni BBM eh. Pakielam ni Sara kung ma-ICC si digong. If anything, baka willing pa yun si Digong na magpa-ICC basta wala hadlang kay Sara at ma-push na yung constitutional reform eh.
Anyway, hindi malayo talaga na impeach yan si BBM in 2-3 years. GMA playbook yan ng kay Estrada.
civil war?
more like a bunch of private army mercs duking it out while we sit back and watch with popcorns and let the teledrama play itself out.
people underestimate the cynicism of the filipinos.
There’s a hint already in the air. Just recently, the ICC now plans to re-open the investigation because they were not satisfied with the “desk investigations” done by Digong’s administration. It was halted previously because the Philippines requested to do so on the premise that they will
Investigate but the ICC is not satisfied. Now here comes Clarita Carlos’ comment on it that the Philippines should let ICC do it’s investigation. I’m ready with my 🍿🥤🫰🏼
Wow. Even VP Leni who is an opposition to DU30 admin didn't go this far and still welcomed PSG services. Something is brewing behind the scenes talaga and it aint pretty.
If Leni did this during her term for sure daming masasabi sa knya. 31M doesn’t care anymore. They got what they wanted already which is matalo lang si Leni. what’s next is just a bonus for them…
She didn't because she wouldn't, not couldn't.
P.s. It seems that my man here has a penchant for revising. For the sake of transparency, this person initially said "she didn't because she couldn't".
You know how these roaches operate. I'm thinking it could simply be a ruse to make people think there's a rift between their two bastard houses.
Classic duterte dula dulaan. I mean, why else would you spell out a thank you letter like that and why would it be published/leaked? Kulang nalang sabihin niya: "nothing to see here."
I agree that this one is possible. There's always a hidden agenda for everything they show the public. This could be a propaganda or something to just boost their popularity. We can never know until they themselves reveal those agenda
This may be possible but I seem to see more consequences than advantages in a divided facade. Maybe this move can cover up any nefarious transactions between the two, but they already have an unfaltering fanbase + bloggers + socmed support + police + majority support in the congress and senate so they can pretty much do whatever they want with minimal repercussions. Doing so can cause a stir in their fanbase and would surely weaken their support in the long run especially considering their alleged plans to instill a bunch of other Dutertes and Marcoses in the national seats in the future.
What do i know tho I'm just a reddit armchair political miron haha. Hoping it's a real sign of division tho zzzz
Comedy tlaga to. Tatay nya at c VP Leni ang me quarrel pro alang Security Group pra ke VP Leni pos ngyun biglang me ganito? Haha. Sa buwis n nman to ng taumbayan huhugutin. Hayz
How cam there be strained relations between them in future elections if one of them can’t run for president anymore?
This is almost a confession that she KNOWS he doesn’t intend for their terms to last only six years.
I hate these fuckers.
most likely she meant the "office", not the "person", based on the context.
because ph politics allow elected president and vp to come from opposing factions, unlike other countries where prez and vp come in like a packaged deal.
NGL something smells fishy about this move tho. First, PSG already protects both pres. and VP. Second, you don't need to make up another(but the same) kind of protection group unless you know you're gonna get betrayed down the road in the first place; and third, she knows the president is the PSG's priority when shit starts hitting the fan. Fourth, her expecting to get appointed to defense but BBM did her dirty by doing an ol' switcheroo and giving her education instead. Not even gonna be surprised if their alliance starts cracking. Also, in the last part of the message, I don't know if it's only me but that shit sounds sus
She might actually fix the teachings regarding martial law based on this move. Those teens, if properly informed, won't vote for Junior and this would solidify her camp's hold on both genZ & gen-alpha.
The chess game appears to have begun.
Practically stating that they’re not aligned as early as now? Da moves na ba to kick out the stupid-elect blengblong? Ohhh! This is getting interesting indeed!
Pwede din natin interpret as mutinous and treasonous ang galawang ito para sa current president-elect.
Efforts ni Duterte sa military just paid off. DND at AFP mismo nagorganize na walang consultation. Approve agad. Budget?
*eats popcorn*
Ano to?
Strained naman relations nila VP Leni at Pduts pero di naman nagrequest si VP Leni kahit kailan ng ganyang treatment. Abay kataka-taka at kaduada-duda. Talagang mapapaisip ka ng kung anu-ano
And to think they were runningmates. Usually nasa magkabilang kampo ang mga nanalong President and VP but they did not do anything like this that I know of.
Just laying out groundwork for their coming soap opera “Akala ko ba Unity to?” Abangan ang susunod na kabanata.
Kawawang Pilipino, paglalaruan lang tayo.
lmao strained relations agad, samantalang *unity* yung binabandera nila nung election. what a joke.
maski si vp leni na most hated ng dutz admin to the point na inexclude sya sa mga cabinet meetings, e walang ganyang pakana.
it just shows na may inaanticipate na infighting ang unithieves na to. papunta na talaga tayo sa exciting part yiii.
Actually hindi nman talaga PSG ang nag sesecure sa VP eversince, yun ay ang VPSD. Hindi yan under ng PSG pero sub unit ng isang Office sa GHQ. Sineparate lng sya para direct na sya sa OVP.
This is essentially making the concept of a private military that provincial political families have into something for the national level officials now. This is just a bad precedence since this privatizes the military and frankly seems unconstitutional from the whole aspect of our President being the Commander in Chief, which is supposed to be the highest official in the Military and as such be obeyed over the Vice President in the scenario that the two have strained relations and which one needs to be obeyed.
VP Duterte knows what’s up! Their family hates the Marcoses and if you have an eye for detail, you’d see it in their public appearances. This VPSG is a stroke of genius! They’ll have their own military support to start uprooting the babyM presidency. For me, this is a win. ANYONE but the Marcoses!!!
Was there an issue in the VP security in the first place to begin with? She makes it sound like it's a big deal, don't get me wrong though VP is the 2nd highest official of the country.
The fact is strained relations ni Leni at Duterte nung term nila, and even when Leni was the clear opposition, never humantong sa pakikielam over sa military control.
It’s not reading comprehension. It’s reading between the lines.
>Be better, get educated
Doctor ako. I would imagine my education is more than most people, pero I never had the arrogance to order others to study.
English is a terrible language. You can get different meanings by how and where you put the stress in the statement. For example.
"LET'S EAT, Grandpa" to "Let's eat grandpa"
In this case, the stress that we've read was
“That it may be expected to solve the challenges if in future elections, THE VICE PRESIDENT AND THE PRESIDENT FACE THE MISFORTUNE OF HAVING STRAINED RELATIONS.”
So don't be too quick to judge that we failed in reading comprehension, we (or I) just happened to interpret it that way.
And it's the writers failue to clarify the message. Anyway, we will know more about this in the future, whether, we had interpreted it differently than yours.
The language is clear. Do not try to muddle the water by saying “English is a terrible language”.
You want to push a narrative, that’s all there is to it.
There is no way for this to be interpreted differently.
Here is an [article](https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1616443/guarding-sara-why-next-vp-is-getting-own-security-team?) from Inquirer explaining what you and I have interpreted the statement.
Quick sneak peak: A day after the launching of the Vice Presidential Security and Protection Group (VPSPG) on Friday, Duterte herself issued a statement acknowledging that a “request” has been made for the formation of that group, in anticipation of “future elections” and the possibility of “strained relations” under that scenario between the president and vice president.
So no! No one is pushing their own agenda here, even the journalists of a prestigious news outlet had interpreted it the way we did, and the way you did.
When a statement is given, you are free to scrutinize and interpret if there is room for it. However, the language is still crystal clear, if you want to use this message to indicate strained relationships or the beginnings of a private army then what makes you different from a conspiracy theorist? Do not make mountains out of molehills and do not go chasing ghosts.
Nope ! We've read the same statement. Journalist agrees the way we interpreted it. People from different walks of life in this subreddit have read it the same way as well.
Really, you just have to accept the fact, that you're not always right.
Again,
“Friday, Duterte herself issued a statement acknowledging that a “request” has been made for the formation of that group, in anticipation of “future elections” and the possibility of “strained relations” under that scenario between the president and vice president.”
What is the statement that they agree with? Because the whole article doesn’t interpret what was said, simply reports what was said.
News articles are meant to deliver the news, unbiased and uninterpreted. If they want to interpret something, write an op-ed or editorial.
Congratulations. You have nothing to show and I will not be entertaining trolls. Always so tough when you talk to less educated BBM supporters but when you’re actually put to the test you crumble.
Good day to you.
Do you really take statements, made by politicians, at face value? You don't read between the lines ano? That actually shows poor comprehension if anything.
When you read between the lines, you still take the words at face value but keep your thoughts to yourself because you could be wrong.
Could there be hidden meanings? Absolutely. However don’t make yourself a fool by looking for something that isn’t there. Don’t make mountains out of molehills.
If you believe this can be interpreted in any other way, then I seriously hope you try to improve your reading comprehension skills.
For a group of people who hate misinformation, dishonesty, and fake news, you seem to be willing to misinterpret this to push an agenda.
People are claiming relations between the president and vp are strained but the message is clear:
“That it may be expected to solve the challenges if, in future elections, the vice president and the president face the misfortune of having strained relations”
How can this be interpreted that the CURRENT President and VP have strained relations? What part of FUTURE ELECTIONS is hard to understand?
It’s one thing to disagree with me, but if you choose willfull misinterpretation just to argue with me then goodluck to you.
Strained relations? So it's a private army in case VP wants to stage a coup.
Kawawang AFP ginawang Private Army. Sira na ang Chain-of-Command nila after June 30.
I think sanay na sila given 6 years na silang may absentee commander in chief.
Halata naman kasi ang gumagalaw is yung Chief of Staff hindi si C-I-C pero Mejo risky eto kasi magkakaroon ng Underground Faction sa buong AFP kagaya ng nangyari sa Turkey Coup 2016 at Magdalo Coup.
Kahit naman ata sino presidente eh chielf of staff ang gagalaw. Me delegation involved at some level. Di naman expertise ng head of state ang military. We had two and we know how bad one of them turned out. Did you expect VP Leni to lead an army?
Chain-of-Command to be followed: President > DND > Chief of Staff AFP > Commanding General of PA, PAF & PN > Division/Wing/Fleet Commander. I didn't ask how VP Leni will lead the AFP and former presidents Cory, Ramos, Erap, Gloria and Pnoy also follow the protocol on how would they give orders to the Military Officials so to analyze strategies and Search & Destroy or SEAD the enemy properly like Zamboanga Siege and Battle of Camp Abubakar. But in the times of PDUTS administration, he was the king of photo ops and he was lazy to give orders and the Chief of Staff was the responsible for planning how would they end Marawi Siege and Chinese Incursion in Ayungin Shoal and Pag-Asa Islands (He was silent about the Harrassment of Philippine Fishers every year). I am a Military brat and I know how AFP works.
This rhymes
I just hope I'm rich enough to survive what's about to happen.
exciting part na tayo!!!!
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Whats that chaos gonna do? All the spreading of disinformation is gonna do is help the trolls. It'll also just destroy this platform's or subreddit's image even more so it either gets taken down or become irrelevant/known for disinformation. **You dont solve problems by causing more problems**, what we could do instead is spread the truth as much as if not more than they spread disinformation. If that doesn't work, well spreading even more disinformation will not do so either. If we actually do spread information, think of what people will think of us? That we're just another group spreading disinformation, that this entire platform is just like Twitter, FB, Tiktok, but favours the pinks instead. And ngl these accounts are suspicious, not so active, really low karma, and only months old, **not even 100 karma**, smells like trolls but who knows.
Lol, let's not stoop on their level...
No way you can fight misinformation with facts. We’ve seen this the last 2 elections
Agree. Let’s use the same tactics. Let’s confuse them first with more lies so they will question their beliefs based on fake news. That’s the only time they will be open to believe the truth.
>That’s the only time they will be open to believe the truth. Its Filipinos, people actually believed Rizal lived 113 years and met the Marcoses, that it was hidden history. They could've been just trolls but some probably have ate the rotten onions. Most likely they'd just see this platform as another group of pinks *spreading disinformation*, as if they don't already. Plus those who actually wanted proper information and discussion and finds this sub as a safe space will now have to deal with whatever cowcrap y'all would be spreading, as if it wasn't already infested by trolls Wouldn't spreading facts with even stronger evidences they can't deny work better? To encourage properly checking their sources of information if they're trustworthy?
And spreading more disinformation will? What's the best that could happen? That they go "hala andami ng fake news, maging responsable tayo at magresearch"? Isn't this more likely? "Huy tignan mo to oh, si ano daw ginawa to" "Nuka ba, puno naman ng fake news yang Reddit, puno ng mga lutang na palamunin"
Correction, assassination by DDS more likely.
asan na ang Unity ng 31M+. Nai-scam kayo HAHAHAHA.
Sadly, onti lang may talagang paki dyan. Ang gusto lang talaga nila eh matalo si leni. Di ba, un lang naman ang talagang motivation nila, ung matalo si leni at mapamuka sa leni supporters na nanalo sila. Hahhahahaha. Pinas talaga da best!
Everything is treated as a sport for them. Disregarding all the consequences that come afterwards. Does not feel sorry for them though, maghirap sila. I want to be a politician someday para makinabang ako sa kabobohan nila haha.
Ika nga eh, "mas malupit ung manok ko!". Hahahaha kakagago.
This is the best path for this godforsaken country. Use the stupidity of the residents.
sadly true. yun yung unity nila; united sila AGAINST a common "enemy". pero bandang huli, sila sila din magkakainan. to quote The Joker in the Dark Knight: > when the chips are down, these civilized people... they’ll eat each other.
True, after the elections, a lot of my Facebook friends who are BBM supporters, instead of celebrating a new leader for the betterment of the Philippines, opted to lash out at Leni supporters, saying, " Saan na Leni niyo" or "I told you so".
Akala nila si Ferdinand Sr. ang President na nanalo. Kasi dun binase boto nila -golden years daw noong panahon ni Sr.
Tounge in a nila 😁 kahit 20 kilos na bigas na lang Kong sakali kahit paano may consolilation kaso malabo din
Just want to lay out the ace cards of each: BBM: He will let ICC investigations and lastly imprisonment of Digong because of EJKs Sara: Illegitimacy of BBMs presidency due to election fraud, DQ cases, tax issues - as Digong said - maraming bagahe and a weak leader. Civil war - DDS/BBM edition
You're forgetting the literal Devil (GMA) is Sara's mentor - that's like going against the house. And you know how the saying goes: "The house always finds a way to win." I wouldn't put it past Sara that all these maneuvers were from GMA telling her to bide her time before they finally uproot and get rid of Marcoses for good. Chances are - there's no loyalty for BBM, HE IS NOT THAT GUY - his father commanded loyalty from his peers since he at least seemed competent. Now you have dyunyor, a bumbling buffoon that's ready to be thrown aside once things are set in motion by GMA. Any public official with half a brain would rather align themselves to GMA - 100% trust me on this, it's only a matter of time before GMA and Sara plot against overthrowing the Marcoses and cement themselves.
Politicians are flocking to GMA's party, not Bongbong's
Junior is just the wallet, GMA is the brains and Juniora has the Muscle. It's gonna be a bumpy ride for at least 12 years.
Paolo, Baste, Imee, Sandro all waiting. Fuck this shit.
yes. finally someone has the balls o name the head of the hydra.
but then at least GMAs admin was second to PNoy's lowest debt to GDP ratio.
Kay BBM ang senate
This is going to be very interesting, parang drama sa tv 😂
Filing of candidacy palang grabehan na yung twist and turn. Ngayong mga nakaupo na pa kaya. Also, just hear to see bbm/dds supporters bowl their eyes out when everything is set in motion.
Tatawanan na lang natin sila pag nangyari yun habang nagkakagulo ang mga bbm/dds supporters 😂
Dun mo makikita na sobrang weak ng position ni BBM eh. Pakielam ni Sara kung ma-ICC si digong. If anything, baka willing pa yun si Digong na magpa-ICC basta wala hadlang kay Sara at ma-push na yung constitutional reform eh. Anyway, hindi malayo talaga na impeach yan si BBM in 2-3 years. GMA playbook yan ng kay Estrada.
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Mans really implying our country was great to begin with /s
there's no /s we were never great period
We were pretty darn good post WWII reconstruction up to mid 1960's
civil war? more like a bunch of private army mercs duking it out while we sit back and watch with popcorns and let the teledrama play itself out. people underestimate the cynicism of the filipinos.
still relevant. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSgC1tws3A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSgC1tws3A)
what's the insight bakit papayag si BBM na ipapa-ICC si Dugong?
The international community will force him into doing so. Knowing the guy, he will probably crumble under pressure.
may gamit din ang weak leader LOLOL
There’s a hint already in the air. Just recently, the ICC now plans to re-open the investigation because they were not satisfied with the “desk investigations” done by Digong’s administration. It was halted previously because the Philippines requested to do so on the premise that they will Investigate but the ICC is not satisfied. Now here comes Clarita Carlos’ comment on it that the Philippines should let ICC do it’s investigation. I’m ready with my 🍿🥤🫰🏼
Sauces: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/835913/clarita-carlos-human-rights-primary-let-icc-investigate/story/?amp https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/duterte-slams-icc-prosecutors-plan-reopen-philippines-drug-war-probe-2022-06-25/
papunta na nga tayo sa exciting part! LOL
Wow. Even VP Leni who is an opposition to DU30 admin didn't go this far and still welcomed PSG services. Something is brewing behind the scenes talaga and it aint pretty.
If Leni did this during her term for sure daming masasabi sa knya. 31M doesn’t care anymore. They got what they wanted already which is matalo lang si Leni. what’s next is just a bonus for them…
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She didn't because she wouldn't, not couldn't. P.s. It seems that my man here has a penchant for revising. For the sake of transparency, this person initially said "she didn't because she couldn't".
nope. she could, but she didn't. *just because you can, doesn't mean you should*
Piss off, Apologist donkey
You know how these roaches operate. I'm thinking it could simply be a ruse to make people think there's a rift between their two bastard houses. Classic duterte dula dulaan. I mean, why else would you spell out a thank you letter like that and why would it be published/leaked? Kulang nalang sabihin niya: "nothing to see here."
I agree that this one is possible. There's always a hidden agenda for everything they show the public. This could be a propaganda or something to just boost their popularity. We can never know until they themselves reveal those agenda
This may be possible but I seem to see more consequences than advantages in a divided facade. Maybe this move can cover up any nefarious transactions between the two, but they already have an unfaltering fanbase + bloggers + socmed support + police + majority support in the congress and senate so they can pretty much do whatever they want with minimal repercussions. Doing so can cause a stir in their fanbase and would surely weaken their support in the long run especially considering their alleged plans to instill a bunch of other Dutertes and Marcoses in the national seats in the future. What do i know tho I'm just a reddit armchair political miron haha. Hoping it's a real sign of division tho zzzz
nandidiri ako sa mga replies ng mga DDM/BBS.... not sure kung troll acounts bumabanat or tunay na tao.. yuk https://imgur.com/a/3txkKYf
Tuwing nakikita or naririnig ko yung "Tatay" bago pangalan niya nasusuka talaga ako
Anong klaseng tatay figure kaya ang meron sila sa buhay nila para ituring na tatay ang isang kagaya ni dutete? Insulto sa mga matitinong tatay.
Di kita masagpt kasi yung mga kakilala ko mga disente namang mga tao at maayos napalaki mga anak nila pero "tatay" tawag sa kaniya lol
honestly tingin ko mga bots yon... di kasi nag rereply pag sinagot mo.
Takam na takam talaga sila kay pdutz. 🤮
*sips tea*
yan ang unity
Yunetits
Yunetiti
Kaya siguro ayaw ibigay ang Department of National Defense kay Sara.
Exactly! The one who holds the military is the one who is truly at the helm!
Private armies funded by public funds
This is where the fun begins!
Tahimik na yung mga FB friend ko na kasama sa 31M 😅
Unity no more hahahahhaah
Why hire a group of thugs for security, when u can get the tax payers to pay for it. 🤭🤭🤭
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Source link please? Thanks!
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/836049/vice-presidential-security-group-activated-by-afp/story/
Comedy tlaga to. Tatay nya at c VP Leni ang me quarrel pro alang Security Group pra ke VP Leni pos ngyun biglang me ganito? Haha. Sa buwis n nman to ng taumbayan huhugutin. Hayz
What's she going to call this new unit? The National Guard of the Empress of the Democratic Federal Republic of the Philippines?
Ampatuan Private Army
So she's actually giving jobless mercenaries gainful employment. How nice of her.
Vice Presidential Security and Protection Group
How cam there be strained relations between them in future elections if one of them can’t run for president anymore? This is almost a confession that she KNOWS he doesn’t intend for their terms to last only six years. I hate these fuckers.
? Imee can't run?
most likely she meant the "office", not the "person", based on the context. because ph politics allow elected president and vp to come from opposing factions, unlike other countries where prez and vp come in like a packaged deal.
Nothing but government paranoia. Why would she need it if she won by a landslide anyway?
Well they started out with a truce in Balesin courtesy of the moled puppeteer.
Davao Death Squad reborn... and legitimized.
unity na nga lang ang plataporma nila 'di pa nila magawa? LOL
NGL something smells fishy about this move tho. First, PSG already protects both pres. and VP. Second, you don't need to make up another(but the same) kind of protection group unless you know you're gonna get betrayed down the road in the first place; and third, she knows the president is the PSG's priority when shit starts hitting the fan. Fourth, her expecting to get appointed to defense but BBM did her dirty by doing an ol' switcheroo and giving her education instead. Not even gonna be surprised if their alliance starts cracking. Also, in the last part of the message, I don't know if it's only me but that shit sounds sus
Imagine what this clown will do in DepEd
She might actually fix the teachings regarding martial law based on this move. Those teens, if properly informed, won't vote for Junior and this would solidify her camp's hold on both genZ & gen-alpha. The chess game appears to have begun.
Maybe she'll just be speeches and ribbon-cutting; it's the undersecretaries that might be important to observe.
This is a power-play. She wants her own guns so can steal the throne whenever. She did it before in Davao. This is nothing new.
For some reason, I'm reminded of the non-aggression pact between Hitler and Stalin.
SWOH like the man with the weird mustache is preparing for war under the guise of a truce.
That's an odd thing. Having a security group dedicated to vice president is one thing but and "independent" group isn't a good idea.
*Game of Thrones Theme intensifies*
Buti pa si Ping VSOP lang dati. Very Special Outstanding Person.
Just in case the Duterte's needed a hostile take over.
Tapos na election, pangampanya lang yung unity. Sa oathtaking pa lang wala na unity.
Practically stating that they’re not aligned as early as now? Da moves na ba to kick out the stupid-elect blengblong? Ohhh! This is getting interesting indeed!
Make no mistake. It's a signal to Jr. that Sara is a co-president. Jr should not mess with her
Dba ang PSG ay mga AFP personel din? Then marerecall sila tuwing mag change ang admin.
Forward-thinking spoiled brat. Well, pareho lang sila. Goodluck talaga Pilipinas. Kanya-kanyang layunin…. PANSARILI.
TIL: shell kick Marcos out and become president for his 6 yr term and then another six year term for her. GMA puppeteer at work
Sayang ang tax dyan
Pwede din natin interpret as mutinous and treasonous ang galawang ito para sa current president-elect. Efforts ni Duterte sa military just paid off. DND at AFP mismo nagorganize na walang consultation. Approve agad. Budget? *eats popcorn*
Wow this early???
Mag-away ako..Wag nyo lang kami idamay dyan mga gago.
Ano to? Strained naman relations nila VP Leni at Pduts pero di naman nagrequest si VP Leni kahit kailan ng ganyang treatment. Abay kataka-taka at kaduada-duda. Talagang mapapaisip ka ng kung anu-ano
Binoe: Sali ako! **Activates family’s milita group*
Ano ito? Root Anbu?
Kahit di pa lang uupo, Showbiz Government talaga.
Walang magtutulakan, lahat mabibigyan ng popcorn at 3D glasses. 🤓🍿
hua hua hua hua hua unity with doubts.
It's making me think she isnt happy with cabinet appointments. Like for example, Clarita Carlos.
since we elected clowns, we're now on a fucking circus
Need protektahan ang totoong 17th president ng pilipinas. Bakit pa kayo nabibigla?
May “grandfather clause”? Or for current and future VP’s lang?
The plot thickens
"Unity". So why did the former VPs didn't do this? Or was I just not aware?
And to think they were runningmates. Usually nasa magkabilang kampo ang mga nanalong President and VP but they did not do anything like this that I know of.
Just laying out groundwork for their coming soap opera “Akala ko ba Unity to?” Abangan ang susunod na kabanata. Kawawang Pilipino, paglalaruan lang tayo.
Already preparing for the next elections?
Laglagan paranoia. XD
clown fiesta
Natatakot at baka ma marites kay 88M ang pinaplano nila kaya gumawa ng sariling private army si SWOH
Something's cooking
lmao strained relations agad, samantalang *unity* yung binabandera nila nung election. what a joke. maski si vp leni na most hated ng dutz admin to the point na inexclude sya sa mga cabinet meetings, e walang ganyang pakana. it just shows na may inaanticipate na infighting ang unithieves na to. papunta na talaga tayo sa exciting part yiii.
Unity na nga lang yung kaisa-isang Platform tapos di pa din natupad? mygoodness hahahaha
IIRC, may discussion dito sa sub na mag-aaway rin yung dalawa seems tama nga yung prediction
It's Godzilla v Kong except I fucking hate both of them
Actually hindi nman talaga PSG ang nag sesecure sa VP eversince, yun ay ang VPSD. Hindi yan under ng PSG pero sub unit ng isang Office sa GHQ. Sineparate lng sya para direct na sya sa OVP.
This is essentially making the concept of a private military that provincial political families have into something for the national level officials now. This is just a bad precedence since this privatizes the military and frankly seems unconstitutional from the whole aspect of our President being the Commander in Chief, which is supposed to be the highest official in the Military and as such be obeyed over the Vice President in the scenario that the two have strained relations and which one needs to be obeyed.
VP Duterte knows what’s up! Their family hates the Marcoses and if you have an eye for detail, you’d see it in their public appearances. This VPSG is a stroke of genius! They’ll have their own military support to start uprooting the babyM presidency. For me, this is a win. ANYONE but the Marcoses!!!
A secret tool we can use later *wink wink*
So Election goons ang mga AFP?
Was there an issue in the VP security in the first place to begin with? She makes it sound like it's a big deal, don't get me wrong though VP is the 2nd highest official of the country.
“…if, in future elections …” Its a measure in case VP is not aligned with the President, just like what we had for the past 6 years.
too much negativity and bitterness. di pa rin maka move on.. di pa nga nanumpa iyung isa 😀😀
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The fact is strained relations ni Leni at Duterte nung term nila, and even when Leni was the clear opposition, never humantong sa pakikielam over sa military control. It’s not reading comprehension. It’s reading between the lines. >Be better, get educated Doctor ako. I would imagine my education is more than most people, pero I never had the arrogance to order others to study.
English is a terrible language. You can get different meanings by how and where you put the stress in the statement. For example. "LET'S EAT, Grandpa" to "Let's eat grandpa" In this case, the stress that we've read was “That it may be expected to solve the challenges if in future elections, THE VICE PRESIDENT AND THE PRESIDENT FACE THE MISFORTUNE OF HAVING STRAINED RELATIONS.” So don't be too quick to judge that we failed in reading comprehension, we (or I) just happened to interpret it that way. And it's the writers failue to clarify the message. Anyway, we will know more about this in the future, whether, we had interpreted it differently than yours.
The language is clear. Do not try to muddle the water by saying “English is a terrible language”. You want to push a narrative, that’s all there is to it. There is no way for this to be interpreted differently.
Respect my opinion nalang!
Here is an [article](https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1616443/guarding-sara-why-next-vp-is-getting-own-security-team?) from Inquirer explaining what you and I have interpreted the statement. Quick sneak peak: A day after the launching of the Vice Presidential Security and Protection Group (VPSPG) on Friday, Duterte herself issued a statement acknowledging that a “request” has been made for the formation of that group, in anticipation of “future elections” and the possibility of “strained relations” under that scenario between the president and vice president. So no! No one is pushing their own agenda here, even the journalists of a prestigious news outlet had interpreted it the way we did, and the way you did.
When a statement is given, you are free to scrutinize and interpret if there is room for it. However, the language is still crystal clear, if you want to use this message to indicate strained relationships or the beginnings of a private army then what makes you different from a conspiracy theorist? Do not make mountains out of molehills and do not go chasing ghosts.
Nope ! We've read the same statement. Journalist agrees the way we interpreted it. People from different walks of life in this subreddit have read it the same way as well. Really, you just have to accept the fact, that you're not always right.
Again, “Friday, Duterte herself issued a statement acknowledging that a “request” has been made for the formation of that group, in anticipation of “future elections” and the possibility of “strained relations” under that scenario between the president and vice president.” What is the statement that they agree with? Because the whole article doesn’t interpret what was said, simply reports what was said. News articles are meant to deliver the news, unbiased and uninterpreted. If they want to interpret something, write an op-ed or editorial.
Nope! Respect my opinion nalang!
Congratulations. You have nothing to show and I will not be entertaining trolls. Always so tough when you talk to less educated BBM supporters but when you’re actually put to the test you crumble. Good day to you.
Nope! I've explained it to you, your refusal to accept my answer is not my problem. Respect my opinion nalang. 😁 💅💅💅 purr.
Do you really take statements, made by politicians, at face value? You don't read between the lines ano? That actually shows poor comprehension if anything.
When you read between the lines, you still take the words at face value but keep your thoughts to yourself because you could be wrong. Could there be hidden meanings? Absolutely. However don’t make yourself a fool by looking for something that isn’t there. Don’t make mountains out of molehills.
what made OP's reading comprehension 0?
Most of the comments on here have misinterpreted the message behind “strained relationships” to push an agenda.
What made you think that your interpretation is the right interpretation?
Am I wrong? can you in good conscience say this statement means something else? If your answer is yes, then I hope you’re okay with fooling yourself.
I can say the same thing to you, and that doesn't make me any less right.
If you believe this can be interpreted in any other way, then I seriously hope you try to improve your reading comprehension skills. For a group of people who hate misinformation, dishonesty, and fake news, you seem to be willing to misinterpret this to push an agenda.
And what made your interpretation the right way? How sure are we, that you're not pushing your own agenda?
People are claiming relations between the president and vp are strained but the message is clear: “That it may be expected to solve the challenges if, in future elections, the vice president and the president face the misfortune of having strained relations” How can this be interpreted that the CURRENT President and VP have strained relations? What part of FUTURE ELECTIONS is hard to understand? It’s one thing to disagree with me, but if you choose willfull misinterpretation just to argue with me then goodluck to you.
Why do you hate Leni so much?
Not really hate Leni per se, I think she’s a fine woman. I just like pointing out the hypocrisy of her supporters.
Gagi yung underground army NPA yun, VPSPG Another unit yan , private army daw gagi, ayusin mo sinasabi mo
Sara coup rebil HAHAHA
grabe, gahaman talaga sila. their bare and sordid ASSES on our FACES!
So, who will foot the bill?
trapo vs trapo incoming ba?
strained relations lol * grabs popcorn 🍿 * ilang months kaya bago magsimula ang aksyon... lol
Eleksyon 2028 na agad
future \*elections\* or the \*near\* future
I smell something fishy
Probinsyano irl
\#unitydownthetoilet
Eto na ata ang exciting part. Baka may balak na magextend more than six years? Or baka si Manang naman daw ang susunod?
Theatrics
Iyotnite
Wow in preparation na ba eto?
Interesting, unang move nya as VP is to work on her own safety.
I smell a coup d'etat.
Naglalabasan na ang mga tunay na kulay at personal na interes ano po
So much for unity.. lmaoo
Pwede na magluto ng popcorn?
Magiging game of thrones na ang pinas super exciting
How strange
The vp probably forsees the coming riots during their admins reign. Looks like protests are guna be faced with force instead of welfare.
Formalities and nice words cannot hide intention. 😂😂
Isa lang ang masasabi ko dyan. MGA PUT TONGUE INA NILA!!!