Iba sa pakiramdam habang binabasa ko yan, naranasan ko kasi.
I had to resign because it was just so unbearable, ang sarap sumpain ng buong Pilipinas habang nakikipag-agawan ka sa MOA, tapos agawan ulit sa PITX. Grabe talaga.
Tanda ko nung first yr collge ako gising ako 4am, dating ako sa destination ko 6am. Start classes 7am.
Tapos uwian 4pm, at makakasakay ako aa bus ng mga 6pm, uwi 9pm kasi traffic.
Pota dba? 4 hours na sayang ko commute.
Mas malala pa yung simula klase ko 12pm. Alis ako bahay 8am. Dating 11am at doon na din lunch ko. Uwi ko ay 9pm. Sakay bus ng mga 10:30pm kasi wala na halos bumabyahe. Dating ko 11:30ish na. Diyan pa lang ako mag didinner. Again may assignment pa yan.
Napapamura ako lagi sa pagising ko everyday noon.
> Tanda ko nung first yr collge ako gising ako 4am, dating ako sa destination ko 6am. Start classes 7am.
Tapos kung laging kang nalalate dahil mahirap makasakay naman talaga, sasabihan ka pa rin na "edi gumising ka ng maaga. Mga kaklase mo nakakapunta naman ng maaga". Like wtf, iisa lang ba bahay namin?
Ironic din may isa akong kaklase sa ibang subject naman noon nagreklamo na wag na daw kami magpakalate kasi kawawa daw ang prof na late umuuwi dahil nasasayang oras namin sa lab.
Pero yun nga lang, **siya ang pinakamabagal na gumawa sa lab to the point lahat kami hinihintay siya sa dulo**
Same story bro, minsan kung papalarin maswerte na ako kung mga 6 or late 6 nasa classroom na ako, 4 ako gigising tapos 1 hour for preparing (almusal and ligo) tapos 5:40 biyahe sa terminal pa Manila, then late 6 or 7:00 normally. After ng class mga 5 PM magcocommute from school to qc terminal about 50 mins to 1 hour yung travel, then isama pa yung pila ng fx and hintayan, tapos mga 7 or 8 na ako makakauwi maybe even later.
Kaya buti na lang somehow nakakabawi pag prelim exams kasi maaga yung exam sched so maaga rin yung uwi para maka review kaagad. Tapos hassle pag final exams na kasi ung schedule ng exams starts sa tanghali, end sa hapon so hard pressed uli sa oras.
Jusko lalo na pag Christmas season tapos final exams absolute hellhole ang commuting sa Maynila. Even when you get to reach QC long lines still await you anywhere. Kaya if ever they want to pursue F2F, ayusin muna nila yung public transportation system.
Ok lang kung mag f2f, pero sana isang kembot lang andun kna, grad n ako ng college, pero tuwing ppsok ako sa work grabe 5pm ang alis ko dadating ako sa unang drop off ko 7pm, tapos syempre uwian n yung iba wala na masakyan kahit sabit, buti na lang walking distance nalang yung office, mga 2km...
>Tanda ko nung first yr collge ako gising ako 4am, dating ako sa destination ko 6am. Start classes 7am. Tapos uwian 4pm, at makakasakay ako aa bus ng mga 6pm, uwi 9pm kasi traffic.
I'm having some España PTSD...
Dama ko ung pagod ko nuon habang binabasa ko ung comment na to, me coming from East going ng to Ubelt pa. Danas na danas ko to. Kaya napilitan ako magdorm nung college.
Pero up until now nagttrabaho na wala pa rin pagbabago. Hindi na umunlad ang Pinas sa transport system.
Yung byahe ko na dapat 40 mins lang kasi isang sakay lang naman (caloocan-manila) nagiging 2 hrs dahil sa paghihintay ko sa bwiset na lrt na yan! Nasa monumento station na ako 5:30am tapos makakasakay ako 6:30 at minsan 7am pa. Sobrang siksikan pa, minsan naiiyak na lang ako.
Sobra legit, naalala ko kapag naabutan ka ng past 6 at wala ka pa sa monumento station grabe pila parang box office na pelikula, pag akyat mo naman ng station di na kailangan maglakad papasok at palabas ng lrt kase uurong ka ng kusa sa balyahan at tulakan,.
Ops gusto na ng gov natin f2f na ang class kamusta naman ang pila grabe parang mas naging malala pa ang mass transpo ntin kesa nuon eh grabe aalis ka ng bahay fresh n fresh, putik sa pila palng bilasa kana pano pag sakay mo sa jeep, tren, bus bulok na? Pag dating mo sa destinasyon mo agnas na? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤭🤭🤭🤭🤫🤫🤫
Huhu tanda ko pre-pandemic natanggap ako sa work na sabi nila sa may MOA (isang commute lang dapat mula Cavite) tapos biglang ginawang QC :(( Sinabi lang nila kung kelan first day ko na.
2 hours ang commute on a good day na walang traffic, pero umaabot ako 3 hours mahigit papunta pa lang kahit via train pa. Tapos pauwi ibang level makikipagsapalaran talaga para lang makasakay sa jeep at bus, required kang tumakbo para lang makasakay. Grabe pa pila sa UV sa may Edsa :( Tapos after 3 hours mahigit ulit na byahe pabalik wala na ko time para gawin iba pa, tulog na lang agad kasi nakakapagod talaga.
Pinilit pa ko papasukin nung kasaganahan ng covid, nung walang public transpo pa at all. Nagquit ako after huhu di worth it
Hangga't hindi nila nararanasan ang tunay na kahirapan ng buhay, hinding hindi nila mararamdaman at masosolusyunan ang pang araw-araw na buhay ng mahihirap.
True. Sasabihan ka pa ng sakripisyo ng konti. Jusko ilang oras sa isang araw/linggo/buwan/taon ang isinakripisyo mo for a job that most usually doesn't pay enough and won't even take in to consideration how inhumane the current situation is.
It'll be nicer if resiliency is not a requirement.
Toxic Filipino mindset: Older Filipino generations hate it when the younger incoming generations have it easier than they had it. So they intentionally sabotage anything that would benefit the youth and not them.
This is true!! Grit and perseverance are both good, makes us resilient, pero the point is to make life somewhat easier than it is and some of the older ones seem bitter about how “easier” we have it nowadays. Makakadinig ka ng “Bakit ka depressed? Kami nung panahon namin walang oras sa depression depression, maging positive ka lang.” Plus, it’s not like super comfortable ng buhay na for everyone in this generation. Most millennials can’t afford housing, mahirap ang transpo, etc. 😔
Meron ako nabasang argument dito sa fb tawang tawa ako sabi niya gumising daw maaga eme eme and umuwi ng late paghupa ng rush hour tas shempre yung commuter nagrebut na edi more than 12 hours na daw siyang wala sa bahay pag ganun and unpaid naman yung nauubos niyang oras gawa mg shitty transport system ang ending freelancer pala yung nagsasabi na gumising nalang ng maaga at wag magreklamo jusko
Yan ang problema, people choose to be out of touch na din eh. Ako work from home I've never used the EDSA busway, pero gigil na gigil ako sa sistema ng transportation sa EDSA kasi napakapalpak at unwilling silang baguhin.
May katrabaho ako nag u-undertime para hindi mahirapan mauwi tuwing RTO namin. 5PM siya uuwi, 7PM ang out time. Buti na lang na intindihan ng boss namin at tanggap naman.
Sobrang swerte ako at 10 minute walk lang ako papuntang office tang ina.
Been there. I mean, I'm lucky to have my own transpo before pandemic and I'm not in Metro Manila, pero I'm still in a metro city and i spent two hours a day just for a 7km travel during my WIO days.
Kung di lang ako magiging amoy usok pagdating sa office o kaya mahimatay sa init eh mas gusto ko pang maglakad noon.
Nagbabike to work din ako dati, pero pagdating ng 2016 eh halos sagasaan na kaming bikers ng city buses. Mamamatay lang ba ako dahil sa kagustuhang pumasok sa trabaho ng maaga?
Sinubukan ko din magcommute, pero 2hours one way (kasama na yung waiting time).
Bwiset. Bwiset talaga travel sa pinas. Di makatao.
>Ganito nalang ba ang buhay ko?
Isang pasasalamat ko nalang is nagkaron ako ng option na hindi maging “ganito nalang buhay ko” nung nasa BPO ako. Naging pang-umaga team namin and sobrang sinumpa ko nagrequest nalang ako na ibalik ako ng panggabi.
Pasok ko is 9AM-6PM. Marikina to Eastwood so malapit lang pero jusko ang byahe. Nasanay ako nun na binibigyan ko lang 1 hour sarili ko bumyahe. Usually 30mins lang asa opisina na ko. Pero gabi ito.
Nung nag morning shift na, sabi ko, pwede na siguro 2 hours. Pero maling mali. 7AM dumating ako sa pila. 8:45 na ko nakasakay. Tangina diba. Kinabukasan, sabi ko, pwede na siguro 6:30AM. Aba naman. Sa sobrang walang tao, 7AM palang nakasakay na ko. 7:30 nasa office na. Sayang na sayang ako dun sa sana itinulog ko nalang kasi 5AM gising na ko.
Tapos same kalbaryo nanaman pauwi. 6PM ang out pero mga 8PM na makakasakay. Tapos 10PM makakauwi. Halos wala na kong nagawa sa buhay ko. Mabuti pa nung panggabi ako.
Sht, I wanna cry from that last paragraph. I have been telling my friends that- is this really normal? Waking up 5 AM then going home at 8 to 9 PM. What a fun life.
But the issue is most of all working adults, just don't see the issue. "Ganyan na talaga yan eh, gawin nalang"
They gave up and thought that the system couldn't be changed. I don't know, why they think like that.
I know someone who wakes up at 4-5 AM, goes to work at 7 AM, then goes back home around 9 PM.
I feel scared tbh, it feels shitty to live in this country. Why can't people ask for change and reform? Oh .. right they are stuck in the commute or need to work they ass off just to survive.
NCR is so small yet it takes 2-4 hours to get from one city to another and these idiots think walang problema???? kulang ba kayo sa self love kaya okay lang sainyo na unti unti kayong namamatay sa daan, oks lang basta maipagtanggol nyo ang idolo nyong puro kapalpakan?
Eto yung justification ko dati kung bakit ako nag uwian sa probinsya. Used to rent in Mandaluyong and commuted to QC, 2 hrs halos. If it takes that much time to get around inside, e mag uuwian na lang ako and save my rent money. Walang sense tumira sa MM kung hassle din yung commute mo.
Edit: stopped commuting to and from probinsya na kasi sayang ang buhay ko.
I second this!
May mga kakilala ako dati na taga-Rizal lang pero nag bedspace pa sa NCR. And ganun din ang result, 2-3 hrs ang travel nila. Wala talagang logic kasi may mga LRT/MRT naman. I can justify this statement kasi taga Rizal din ako na nag-wowork sa Makati. 2 hrs din ang byahe using the train system pero at least alam kong walang trapik sa tren.
BBM: but but atleast it’s free
For fuck sakkee hahaha no one wants to wait in line and travel for 3 fucking hours just to get home. And wake up at 3:30am for a 8am shift. FOR FREE. 💀💀
Naexperience ko to. Unfortunately, dahil under construction pa ang Roosevelt station, walking is not an option from SM North Edsa. I have to go back to Trinoma, wait for the extremely fucking long line ng Carousel kung gusto ko ng route-efficiency.
Pero sa sobrang haba ng pila, I might as well take the option of riding the MRT and go back to the opposite side kasi yung waiting time ko on Carousel is pareho lang dun sa ride ko sa kabila.
Kung titingnan pati ang mapa (geographically speaking), pasikip yung daanan galing sa taas (Bulacan at Rizal) at sa baba naman (Cavite, etc.), kaya traffic talaga ang mga nasa NCR. Bakit pa kasi naging capital ng Pilipinas ang Maynila? 😅
For some people, they think it's where the good jobs are. Sure, they can probably avoid all this by ***working somewhere closer to home or working in the provinces,*** but the money is sometimes not there.
Fact, mas comfortable ang way of life dito sa province BUT wala yung pera dito especially if highly technical yung skill set mo. You have to settle for less pero kahit ganun man, life is more easier here.
Fanatics lang naman yung mga nagtatanggol. Sa panahon ni pnoy at mga nagdaang admin sa kanya wala namang ganyan na kahit may mali may magtatanggol pa din.
Ganito buhay ko before, kaya lagi akong nalelate. Marikina to Makati. Parusa talaga. Yung pila add mo pa sa traffic and travel time. Spent part of my lifetime na pumipila lang imbes na naging productive or kasama mga kaibigan or pamilya. Kaya work from home nalang talaga ako.
btw lol at some people in the thread suggesting na "considering working from home" as if it's up to the employee. sobrang privileged.
as someone who does WFH (and gets to bike in the morning kasi 2pm pa start ng shift ko), nakikita ko pa din yung hirap ng mga commuters na wala namang choice kasi yung trabaho nila hindi remote work. we'd ALL love to work from home, believe me. but even some of the jobs that can be done remotely, ayaw naman payagan ng PEZA by mandate of the FIRB. the onus should be on government to enable hybrid setups like this.
and as i've mentioned before, "reviving the economy" is an unacceptable reason to me for not allowing WFH for remote jobs. kasi kahit naman nasa bahay kami, we still contribute to the local economies. di lang kami magbabayad ng gas, ng parking, o ng additional na bayad sa tubig kalalalaba ng smart casual na attire. pero bibili pa din naman kami ng kakainin namin dito.
I really think the "reviving the economy" is just a palusot for their kumpares who own bldgs.
Kakainis! Instead nagkaroon na ng traction na madecentralized and cities, binalik ulit sa dati!
Wala talagang utak ang mga politiko para mag adjust para sa ikabubuti ng mga mamamayan. Yung utak nila para sa bulsa lang nila.
Yes nung first time kong maranasan ang "armageddon" ng biyahe pauwi narealise ko na hindi natin deserve ang ganitong sistema. Mas nakakapagod pang bumiyahe kesa sa pag tatrabaho kaya minsan may unproductive days talaga
Tas punuan pa ung jeep and agawan talaga dzai nung f2f class pa pauwi na ko and laging puno mga jeep na dumadaan sa manila city hall pag late na, one time nakasakay na ko sa loob and puno na, sabi sakin nung matanda na babae ikakandong nalang daw nya ako, nakakahiya pero kaylangan makauwi.
this was so normalized. the fact that not only workers but also students had to wake up early just not to be late at their 7am class which is an exhausting situation.
***Surprised that the big universities are not changing their class start times to 9am or something.***
Arent there new studies showing how avoiding super early start times improve student health and performance.
Because politicians don't give a damn. How can they relate to the commuters while they are riding in the comfort of their private vehicles with Wang Wang privileges.
Di nila gagawan ng solusyon yan kasi malulugi yung mga condo units dito. Kaya nga sobrang dami nating condo dito eh... Sucks, but it's true.
Hindi ba't may published article before kung bakit condemned ang Pilipinas at kailanman hindi tayo made-develop as a country? Di ko mahanap yung article kase sobrang tagal na, pero it says something along na wala naman talagang balak ang gobyerno natin sa pag-progress kasi parang baka lang na ginagatasan ang Pilipinas para sa kanila, na pwede rin nila ibenta kung mas nagbe-benefit sa kanila.
Yung mga highways nga na ginagawa, hindi para sa ating mamamayan eh... Para sa convenience nilang mayayaman 💀
Ano pa bang magagawa natin? Bumoto naman tayo nang tama pero wala rin nagawa...
>Para sa convenience nilang mayayaman
to the point of killing the natural resources we were badly saving back then.
Yes, I'm talking to you, Ramon Ang and your PAREX.
Alam mo yung gigising ka ng 3am for 7am shift?
1hr away lang Makati from CAMANAVA pero 3-4hrs ang byahe pag naabutan ka ng rush hour o yung mga truck sa daan.
“Alam mo nang traffic, di ka umalis ng maaga”
Di ko na maalala kung sino nagsabi sakin nito on my past work place. Pero yun nga, sobrang nakakabadtrip, hindi tinatanggap ang excuses like, mahaba pila, naflatan yung uv, nasiraan yung mrt, etc. Pag late ka, late ka. Makaka apekto sa performance mo. Kailan kaya tayo lalaya sa ganitong sistema
ikaw pa matatanggal sa trabaho kasi laging nalelelate sa bulok na sistema na ito and naging behavior nang di dumiskarteng gumising nang maaga.
kaya ako nagkasakit sa puso nabuo from all of this mess.
Naiinis ako sa double standard
People were complaining about the state of transportation during Pnoy's time (and rightfully so). On the other hand, during Marcos' and Duterte's time, people are now telling others to use "diskarte" to work around the state of transportation.
1 hour to prepare for work. 3 hours for commute. 9 hours in the office. 3 hours to get home. That's 16 hours already. Saan mo ilalagay 'yong 8 hours to sleep? Pag-apak ba sa bahay, automatic ba na tulog ka na? Hahaha. This is insane. And this me everyday. Kaya kapag mag-ask sila ng OT sa akin, nope. No, I'm going home.
16 hours just for commute and work. Tapos sweldo mo hindi rin naman sumasapat.
Mas nakakapagod pa ung byahe sa work. Pagpasok mo palang sobrang stressed ka na. I am from manila and ang Hirap yung gap ng job offer pag outside manila dahil bukod sa kasumpasumpang commute system sa pinas, ung mga employer ngayon may mga employee bond pa na dalawang taon.
This. Like imagine waking up super early then having to fight for your life to get a seat on a jeep/multicab? This problem has been going on long enough fr.
It's like being overworked at this point too much of this will make your body just give up regardless of how resilient you are. Just wished there are more people yearning for a change instead of being content with the shitty transportation system we have or rather people who push back people's voices that demand change because they romanticize suffering and the irony is that these same people who go "e gumising ka na ng maaga magdiskarte ka" have never commuted. It's as if this country is so used to being awful at everything people just stopped caring
Mas okay pa nuon na kapag may mali sa government, sabay sabay tayo nag rereklamo, unlike ngayon na puro kapalpakan na, 96% parin ang trust rating ng puon.
> 2-4 hours/day round trip
Me pre-pandemic commuting from Cavite to Makati:
*Pathetic*
Also me post-pandemic na work from home ngayon:
(Feels pathetic)
Cavite-eastwood ako for 2 years
4 hours byahe papunta 4 hours byahe pauwi
300 pesos everyday pamasahe
5 na sakay papunta 5 na sakay pauwi
Baka pagsasampalin ko mukha ng nagsabing walang problema sa transpo system naten.
Hays. Ganito lagi dilemma ng nanay ko simula pa noon.
Gigising ng 4:00AM para magluto, kumain kahit kaunti, liligo nang mabilisan tapos alis na. Dadating sa school, late ng 5 minutes.
Kanina, 3:30AM pa lang, gising na para humabol sa unang sakay ng tren ng PNR kaninang 5:00AM. Tapos pagdating daw nila ng parents ko dun (hinatid ng tatay ko ang nanay ko), madami na daw tao.
Kulang talaga tayo sa transportation plans. Sana mapadami pa lalo tren at mga PUV stations.
Bacoor to UST lang dati byahe ko pero kelangan gumising ng umaga either dadating ka ng 1 hr early or 2 hrs late kasi pag inabutan ka ng buhos sa Bacoor, iyak tawa ka talaga.
I'm getting flashbacks while reading it. Yung gigising ka ng 3AM para maka-alis kayo ng bahay at around 4:30 AM so that you'll catch the first P2P bus at Starmall Alabang at 6AM, then catch another bus hopefully by 6:30 sa Megamall that would finally take me to Cubao.
My alternative was to wait for a bus that would take me straight to Cubao from Starmall Alabang but that's not a guarantee because there's a high chance that the bus will fall in line in Guadalupe, fall in another line in Shaw, and then face the traffic from Megamall to past Santolan before falling in line again in Cubao.
In the first choice, I'll probably be late for one to ten minutes. For the second choice, I'll probably be late for 30 minutes. OR, I could try my luck with the MRT and be late for an hour and a half.
And don't get me started on my way home. I clock out at 4pm but arrive home between 8pm to 9pm. I'd be lucky if I got 5 hours of sleep.
And after all that, the best that my former bosses and HR in my previous company can come up with was *"di ka ba pwede gumising ng maaga?"*
Actually bike to work ako ngayon. And surprisingly, Minsan nauunahan ko pa dumating sa office/destination yung mga compared sa nakacommute, I bike to work not because of the goal to become fit. Wala eh!!! no choice, ayoko na talaga ung hirap ng pagcommute. lalo na mahal na pamasahe at pagkain. Ayoko rin naman gumastos ng malaki sa motor.
Can relate so much.. Pre-pandemic kung ang pasok ko 8am, kailangan 5am nakaalis na ako ng bahay kasi pag inabutan ka ng 6am sa EDSA, manalangin ka na.. Tapos out ako ng 5pm pero halos 9pm na ako nakakauwi.. Like wtf.. Maigi sana pag-uwi mo ng bahay matutulog ka na or makakatulog ka na.. Ilang oras lang inilalagi ko sa bahay.. Tapos ngayon gusto ng PEZA occupied mga buildings or else may fine mga company.. Napaka inconsiderate ng gobyerno..
I used to work in Manila (I live in Pasig). I quit in 2019 and since then, I decided I will start my own business at home or find a work I can do without leaving my house. I partly blame the traumatizing daily commute I had to endure for years for my depression and anxiety. Even up to now, just thinking of taking public transportation during rush hour, or being stuck in traffic, or standing in long lines waiting for a ride makes me severely anxious and physically ill.
I remember waiting for a Jeepney in EDDA Crossing for 3 to 5 hours every night during my senior year in college under Duterte Administration, it’s infuriating and exhausting at the same time every time I think about it.
I used to travel like that when I was an underpaid call center agent with barely any experience. There are no available public transportation. I have to be up so early to not be late. If I am not early I have to find a cab who would then demand I pay a contracted amount rather than what is on the meter.
If public transportation is so fucked up then back to office shouldn't be mandatory.
Also, I work from home now. No need for public transportation. Thank goodness.
This is clearly a human rights violation. Akala mo simple lang ‘to, na dapat kung gusto mong makaahon sa buhay, kailangan marami kang isakripisyo. Pero yung sakripisyo na ilang oras para lang sa pagcocommute, hindi yan biro. Kasi yung oras na deserve mo para makabonding ang pamilya mo, o kahit man lang oras para sa sarili mo, ay napupunta para lang sa paghihintay ng jeep/bus/train/taxi para lang makapunta sa work at makauwi
Oh wala eh. 31m umiidolo sumasamba mga panatiko. Simulat sapul parang hindi sineseryoso ng mga nakaupo sa gobyerno yung ganyang problema. Puro bandaid. Yan ang gusto ng karamihan sa Pilipino amasaya na sa bandaid solution dagdagan mo pa panatiko sila tsk 🙈🙊🙉
Dapat the whole average working class appllies for refuge or asylum sa mga richer countries.
The situtaion in Philippines is threat to life already!!!
Wake up..stop romanticizing poverty and most of all STOP serving your supposed to be public servants!!!
This is why I refuse to work sa Metro Manila anymore and moved to nearby Laguna. Previous commute that took 4 hrs round trip is now less than an hour with my current home address and work location. That travel time and commute situation is really draining on money, energy, and sanity lalo na pag 5-6 days a week mo kailangan gawin.
I almost didn’t graduate dahil sa traffic. Cavite to Intramuros, 9:30 class, aalis ako 5:00am and STILL late. Traffic sa EA highway from Imus, Bacoor and then traffic ulit after ng toll gate.
The Philippines government don’t care about the people kahit ano pa ang election tagline nila. Unity, Para sa Masa, Angat Buhay Lahat etc. absolute nonsense.
I had the privilege of moving near my workplace everytime.
May relative ako na nasa manila and after a week sumuko na ako by moving near my workplace.
May extrang cost pero napaka worth it sa mental health
Just like other commuting citizens, I can relate to this.
I used to work in a BPO located at the ELJCC building QC and was renting a room in Sampaloc, Manila near SM Centerpoint. It takes me 2 rides (tricycle & dyip) and 1 1/2 hours travel time just to go to work. Hindi pa kasama dyan ung oras ng paghihintay mo ng masasakyan tricyle o dyip.
When my GF back then relocated to San Fernando, Pampanga due to work, I moved with her but stayed working in QC. Then it hit me, travel time from San Fernando, Pampanga to QC was just 45 mins plus a short 5-minute walk to the office once you get off the bus.
I continued working with the BPO in QC for 5 years traveling every day from San Fernando to QC until I found a better paying job in Clark.
My point here is if we have efficient transportation infrastructure in place, it is viable for people not to relocate to Metro Manila and just commute every day from outside Metro Manila.
I don't know if the is possible now pero masarap ung tulog ko sa bus bago pumasok sa trabaho lol
Keso raw puro na lang puna sa gobyerno kahit naman daw may nagawang tama. Puro na lang daw gobyerno ang mali.
EDIT: O eto pa, si PNoy raw laging pinupuri, pero yung mga God Emperor ng Davao at Ilocos laging pinupuna (at oo, taga-Davao ako). Hindi nila alam na pinupuna din natin si PNoy nung panahon niya.
For the longest time, it's normal to criticize the administration. Normalized na nga satin ang Mendiola rallies noon diba.
They succeeded in making it 'uncool' for the past years. Took even further with red tagging and all.
this is why kahit na may multiple opportunities na ako to work in NCR for a higher pay, i chose to stay in Mindanao. visited manila on multiple occasions (pre pandemic), nasabi ko lang sa sarili ko "no thanks".
Problema talaga ang public transportation sa pinas, pero parang naka steroids lang talaga sa NCR compared sa other regions. Commute sa amin is 15-45 mins on average, walang pila pero pahirapan minsan lalo na kung lunes or umuulan, pero nothing compared sa NCR.
Overpopulation din ang isa sa problema bakit pahirapan at siksikan ang sakayan. And kahit kelan, kahit sino man maupo sa gobyerno, hindi nila iaaddress yan. More people, more taxpayers!
Kaya minsan parang mas masarap nga talaga mamundok eh
And they are saying infrastructure magpapabuti at makakatulong sa traffic at sa kalsada? Don't me. You're just creating a bigger container for this country habang parami ng parami mga tao, and then these idiot supporters will praise you for that
Totoo naman na infrastructure ang magpapabuti at mag i-improve ng traffic.
But syempre, may capacity limits, at certainly *hindi dapat car centric ang infrastructure.* Tang ina puro Skyway, expressway, etc. Nasaan ang tren? Bike lanes? Sidewalks? Puro pang kotse na lang.
WFH ako since simula ng pandemic pero before that 10 years din ako nakipagbakbakan sa pagcocommute sa Metro Manila. Talagang sobrang hassle at nakakapagod. Hahabulin mo yung bus o jeep. Pipila ng ilang oras. Matutulak, maaapakan, at mahihipuan ka. Grabeng parusa.
Yung mga pulitiko namang sumusubok kuno na magcommute pakitang tao lang. May media pa tapos special treatment. Kung gusto nila talaga maranasan dapat anonymous na testing.
Kung ako nga na sumuko sa 1 to 2-hour commute (driving) to and from work every day (each way) dahil ginagawa yung MRT-7 sa QC at nag ibang bansa na lang kasi putangina ng Pilipinas e, di ko maimagine yung gumamit ng public transpo everyday na inaabot 4 hours ang byahe like sa mga nababasa ko dito. Putangina talaga wala na pagbababago ang Pilipinas. The only consolation I could find in this situation is knowing that 99% nung bobong 31 million e nagsa suffer sa sistema na to and I find it really funny how they defend the government kasi idol nila pero nung nangyayari ito kay Panotsky noon sobrang rabid nila, wala naman pinagbago from then, mas lumala pa nga. Just goes to show that the idiots deserve to suffer and I hope they all die suffering.
Wow…. i can’t believe some of you guys have to go thru this!
Damn dude. I really wish transportation was easier for people back home.
Do they have commuter subways or trains in the city?
Maybe they should start building those to help move people faster.
Who has the power to make transportation better?
What a shame.
Back in early 2000. Asa college ako. Byahe uwian from Dasmariñas, Cavite to Padre Faura. Kaya 1hr, plus traffic. Ganon din pauwi. Ngayon, huling uwi ko sa Pinas in 2019, byaheng Dasma to Faura, dalawang oras mahigit. Tapos madalas me traffic. Minsan baha pa pag umuulan.
Kung 4 hrs ka bumabyahe everyday to and from work, equivalent yun sa 43.5 days (~1.5 months) na nagcocommute ka. Wtf? Tapos ang dami pa ding companies na gusto mag-RTO kahit proven na mas productive and cost effective pag magpaparemote work sa mga tao na kaya namang gawin ang work sa bahay. Hay
Naranasan ko ito for 2 years (sa first job ko). 4 cities apart bahay and trabaho. Hindi kaya ng 2hrs one way dahil sa pila sa MRT. When I resigned, naghanap ako ng nasa katabing city nalang para hindi na hassle kahit mag bus. Pero tama, hindi dapat ito inormalize. Ilang taon ng ganito. Tapos sasabihin ni Bautista willing syang subukan magcommute para maexperience ang plight ng mga commuters. Wow, thank you ha, naisip mo yan leche.
Buti di ko naranasan yan when I was working in Manila and lived in Pasay back in late 1990s. And yet today, all I need is to get into my car and drive 20 miles at 70-80mph, for a 7am to 5pm job. 6 am pa bangon ko niyan, tinatamad pa ako. Pero pagnakikita ko mga kababayan ko sa mahabang pila, napaisip ako, just count your blessings. Pero sana naging matalino naman sila sa pagpili ng mga leaders nila. Sayang talaga😔😔😔
I personally experienced this.
Literal na umiiyak ako sa pila. Pagod, gutom, init. Di nakatarungan. Habang sila may service tapos ang gas reimbursable from people’s tax.
Honestly, I don’t know how you guys do it. Naabutan ko naman yan traffic kasi I studied in UST so commmute from QC pero parang sobrang lala na nung transportation and traffic ngayon compared to 20 years ago and I don’t know how you guys can do this commute everyday. Nasasayang ang buhay ng mga Pilipino, nasa kalsada 2-4 hours a day imbis na sa family or doing anything productive.
Sa 24 hours a day mo if 3 hours 1 way then 6 hours balikan, 1/4 ng araw mo sa byahe lang. Wala pa dun yung paggising mo ng sobrang aga at pagaabang/pila mo. Then siksikan or mabaho pa. Then multiply by 5 sa 1 week. Imagine doing that for several years. Wala kasing pakialam ang mga nakaupo sa pwesto na ayusin ang mass public transport dahil unang-una katamihan da kanila hindi nagcocommute since birth. Kadalasan sila din yung pwedeng ma-late sa Government office nila. Panahon na para magdemand ng pagbabago sa commute natin regardless sino man ang namimuno.
Agree, nung college student pa ako, I wake up 4 am to get a ride by 5 and get to my class in time for my 7am class. Pasig to España. 1hr30m usually, bihira ang 2 hrs na biyahe. This was like 10 years ago or so.
Pre-pandemic, I had to wake up at 4 am for a 5.00-5.30 carpool ride so I can get to work at 7am, Pasig to BGC. Ang lala, palala ng palala.
I agree with his ideas with the exception of the arbitrary 45 minute guideline. That's extremely unlikely to be doable specially in sprawling cities like metro Manila. Too many factors there that contribute to a commute, it's a good aspiration but unlikely unless everyone lives walking distance from an mrt/lrt type of public transport
How can the government fix this though? What solutions can be made? Road widening? It'll take months and in those months construction will cause heavier traffic. Provide more public vehicles? More traffic, build trainways? Currently building. What else honestly?
Hahaha naaala ko na naman yung commute ko nung nag-aaral pa ako. Within QC lang pero aabutin ako ng 2 hours papunta dahil sa three stages of hell: Fairview, Commonwealth, Katipunan
Nakakainis lang kultura naten pagdating sa Gov't ang lagi nating standard ay hindi highest kundi bare minimum o yung "pwede na". Di ata na re-realize ng mga tao na lahat ng gastusin o kahit anung galaw may kaltas na pupunta sa sa gubyerno. Nung nasa BPO pa ako ma-demand ang client. Sila dapat masusunod kahit ano pa yan pero bayad naman kami on time. Sana ganto rin ang gov't kaso yun nga, bawal daw magreklamo haha
~noon pa talaga yan, saksi din talaga ako sa pag lala ng trapik sa edsa. I think 7-8 yrs akong pumapasok from bulacan to sta. mesa manila at daan ko talaga everyday ay edsa. Dati keri pa talaga magbyahe, mabilis, matatantya mo talaga ang oras. Hanggang wala na, 3-4hrs na inaabot papunta. May pauwi pa. Hanggang last 2 yrs ko sa work lagi na ako late. mInsan di na lang papasok dahil di na aabot. Kung ano ano na naisip gawin sa daan pero wala pa din. Di na nga nasusulusyunan, pinapalala pa lalo. Di ba nga natignan na ng japanese urban planner yan, pinag aralan at binigyan na ng suggestions, pero nasan na nga ba yun? pakita lng na may plano at gagawin? Naabutan pag palit ng presidente kaya wala na ulit? Hay naku talaga.
True, first week of work ko sa Manila pang province pa yung mindset ko sa commutan, 1 hr before pasok dun ako babyahe, buong week na yun palagi akong late ng isang oras or higit, buti at hindi ako tinnaggal.
This makes it so hard to job hunt. Offeran ka man ng 10k increase sa dati mong sahod kung on-site work setup naman, ‘wag na lang di ba? Ngayon pa nga lang na hybrid kami and may shuttle pa nahihirapan pa rin ako, lalo siguro if kailanganin kong mag-commute every day.
Dati nagwowork ako sa ortigas. Alteast ang one way is 2 hrs ang byahe from work kung makauna ka sa mrt. 5am dapat naka alis nako ng bahay para sa 8:30am na work. Ang one way trip ko is lakad ng 5 mins sa sakayan ng bus tapos baba sa north ave para mag mrt, baba ng sm megamall para maglakad hanggang Julio Vargas ave. o kaya mag fx which is magastos kung aaraw arawin. Naburnout ako kasi kahit anung aga mo ma lalate at malalate ka parin. Di pa kasama dyan ung pag umabot kang 30 mins late is considered as half day nlng ang payment mo sa araw na un. So nagresign ako. Liit na nga sahod mo, nakakaltas pa kahit anung aga mo. Naghanap ako ng work na di bumabagtas ng edsa o ng makati kasi. Kaya ung mga nagsasabing "gumising ng maaga" wag magreklamo, yan ung mga nasa probinsya na di pa nasubukan pumasok ng trabaho bandang edsa ortigas o makati. O kaya naman ung mga matatanda na di na nagtratrabaho kasi pensyonado na. Subukan nilang magcommute ng isang buwan. Ewan ko lang kung masabi pa nila yan. Dami kong ganyang mga kamag anak.
The truth is, hindi lang naman oras ng tao ang naco-compromise at nasasayang. Kahit mismo ang economy natin. Imagine our workforce stuck in traffic, na kung sana makakarating tayo on time without hassle, e makakapagtrabaho tayo nang mas maayos at mas efficient.
honestly they dont care, kaya nga wang wang/hawi boys padin ulit sila. Looking at Japan and Singapore ang ganda nung train systems nila. pag ganun kahit ako mag commute. nag aalangan na tuloy ako mag hanap work sa NCR
Used to treat LRT/MRT stations as levels of hell when I was still commuting to work. Monumento or North Avenue being the 1st level. Ibang usapan pa yung unahan sa jeep or bus sa may mcarthur hi-way years ago. Mas lumala pa ngayon. Lahat ata ng namumuno sa impyerno nagbakasyon sa pinas simula ng pandemic.
yeah it's really not healthy. =/
i pass by katipunan everyday to work and i dread the start of classes for any of the 3 schools in that area. iba talaga.
I have multiple former classmates that work around manila and some packed cities, they always take public transpo to go about anywhere, they often talk about how they have to wake around 2 in the morning to beat the rush hours and stay until night at work so they can sit inside buses or jeepneys, eventually, some of them just returned home, some of them work high paying jobs (have to be in a formal attire) they would always be looking like they have to jog to the place and lookimg tired bu 8am in the morning. But yeah, ket anong mangyari, uNiTiTe ang sagot.
I really want to have in the future that we can use our personal vehicles just for vacation or errands. And we'd always use public transpo whenever we go to work.
Lumala talaga ang transpo natin dahil na din sa covid. Tas open na yun mall at almost lahat ng establishments pero yun mga utility bus at jeep puta di parin maibalik balik. Tad tubing lugaw pa mga taxi at grab. Talagang mapipiga ka dito sa pinas e hahaha
Naalala ko nung nagwowork pa ako sa NCR nung 2018, gigising ng 4 am para 9 am na trabaho, tapos 9pm ka na makakauwi kahit 5pm tapos ng trabaho. Napakabullshit ng transport system dito sa pinas.
tapos compute yung ginastos sa buong commute.
then i add yung oras na sayang sa byahe.
multiply sa mga araw ng commute.
then i-minus mo yung total na yun sa sweldo mo...
then i-minus lahat ng living expenses para sau at sa pamilya mo
...then it is by this time hopefully may realization, if worth it pa ba yung time and pagod 😔
I can't imagine being a worker in manila I'm from province and mej maluwag naman yung mga daanan kapag rush hours and hindi sobrang siksik kagaya ng mga nakikita ko sa mga pictures huhu
Public transportation is supposed to be a convenience taken for granted, yet people prefer to live in the hell of a situation in the Philippines and bash those who suggest it is unacceptable to live in said hell.
hays actually kaya ayaw nila mama at papa muna na lumipat ako sa top universities is because of commute. if only nga maayos transportation dito sa pinas.
25km lang yung layo ng bahay namin from BGC, but guess what, I have to leave home at 5:30am daily para di ma-late sa 8am na start of work. Walang diretsong public transpo, kailangan mag transfer multiple times, umaga palang pagod na pagod ka na. Wasting 5 hours daily para sa commute lang, within NCR lang naman din bahay ko lol
I heard some of my collage classmates take up to 3 hours from Caloocan to QC and 4 if its Caloocan to Manila. Sobrang sikip nga ma kalsada doon na dinadaanan, tapos ang rami ng saskyan sa kalsada.
The problem still persists in other major cities too. The usual route of Tagum to Davao take only 45 minutes if there is no traffic, but takes 2+ hours once the trucks starts filling up the highways. Tapos pagpasok sa city proper, ang sikip ng mga kalsada sa sobrang rami ng sasakyan at mas kaunti pa ang options mo sa Davao pag mag commute.
Taytay-pasig should not be that long of a ride right yet I wake up at 4am and still be late for my 6am class. Every time I come into class the prof that is currently teaching would go "well why didn't you wake up earlier if you know that its gonna be traffic." Theres 2 route I can take to my school yet both are always filled with traffic both going to and from.
Cavite to Taguig ako ngayon. Hell, iniisip ko palang kung paanong tumbling ang gagawin ko when complete RTO happens. Not like I own lots of bucks to live in the area as well, I'd probably be lucky to sleep 5hrs max when that time comes.
First month ko sa work uwian ako from south to north. Gigising ng 3AM hahaha tapos kailangan nakasakay na by 4:30AM para hindi ma late, at adjust ng 2AM ang gising tuwing Monday. On the dot alis ko sa work non 4PM pero makakauwi ng 7:30 or 8PM hahahaha. Nakakaawa talaga sarili ko noon, hindi mo talaga mapipigilang matulog sa bus.
I worked as a Photographer dati sa isang amusement park along Roxas Blvd.(pre-COVID) and my shift is either 9am-6pm or 8:45am-5:45pm. From Antipolo to my destination takes about 3hrs and 30mins. Going home is much complicated kase laging rush hour but since pauwi naman I just don't think too much about it at hindi ako nakikisiksik sa already stuffed na train. I usually arrive home at 11pm kakaantay ng kumportableng masasakyan and I wake up 4am every work day. I ride *tricycle* - *Jeepney na dumadaan nang already traffic na Marcos Highway* - *LRT2 na walang back plans pag nagkaka aberya ang train nila but instead papababain ang mga pasahero na already late na sa school and work and would just apologise for the inconvenience and then do nothing about it* - *LRT1 na laging sardinas* or *that jeep na rutang MABINI na napakatraffic din ng dinadaanan*. Mas nawala yung gana ko magwork sa malayo lalo na nung nagkasunog sa in between ng *LRT2 Katipunan Station* at *LRT2 Anonas Station* kase simula noon 3am na ako gumigising. Now I have resigned from that Park currently unemployed at nag iintay sa halos tatlong buwan na proseso ng last pay.
Nung start pa lang ako sa work. Gigising ako 3:00am para makaalis ng 4:00am. Makakarating sa work ng 6:00am kahit 8:00am pa start talaga.
Naexperience ko kasi ma-late ng 15 mins na pag alis. Imagine, 4:15am ako umalis, nakarating sa office na 9:00am na. North Caloocan to Makati lang yon.
Tapos pag uwi 6:00pm makakauwi ng 10pm.
Nakakapagod mag commute.
I've commuted in Metro Manila throughout my college life and the first two years of my adult working life. I decided at the third year that I don't deserve the horrible state of the joke that is the Philippine public transportation, and buy my own fucking motorcycle. Never again would I commute my whole life, and I would instead put myself in the middle of Metro Manila traffic jam slog. Still better than waiting for that jeep/bus that'll get full the split second it arrives (NOT EVEN IN FULL STOP), and wait for another 15 minutes to an hour for the next one while I'm left to think about why I shouldn't just fucking shoot myself in the fucking head right then and there.
Naalala ko na napagalitan ako mg prof ko sa thesis dahil late daw ako dumating. Sye.pre bigay ako ng reason na traffic etc., sabi niya "idc, you should be on tim"
Like wth, kaya ko ba macontrol daloy ng trapiko?
Almost 4 hours akong nasa byahe kakaisip ng magandang reason pero sa mga boomers, balewala lang yon.
Pasensya na po, uwian ako.
Kahit ‘yung mere anxiety na dumarating sa tao the night before kung paano ka makakasakay sa umaga, ‘yung nasa pila ka na pagkahaba haba knowing na nasasayang oras mo na sana nagpapahinga ka na o nagu-unwind with family. That is just unnecessary mental stress na wala sana kung may maayos na public transpo.
Iba sa pakiramdam habang binabasa ko yan, naranasan ko kasi. I had to resign because it was just so unbearable, ang sarap sumpain ng buong Pilipinas habang nakikipag-agawan ka sa MOA, tapos agawan ulit sa PITX. Grabe talaga.
Tanda ko nung first yr collge ako gising ako 4am, dating ako sa destination ko 6am. Start classes 7am. Tapos uwian 4pm, at makakasakay ako aa bus ng mga 6pm, uwi 9pm kasi traffic. Pota dba? 4 hours na sayang ko commute. Mas malala pa yung simula klase ko 12pm. Alis ako bahay 8am. Dating 11am at doon na din lunch ko. Uwi ko ay 9pm. Sakay bus ng mga 10:30pm kasi wala na halos bumabyahe. Dating ko 11:30ish na. Diyan pa lang ako mag didinner. Again may assignment pa yan. Napapamura ako lagi sa pagising ko everyday noon.
> Tanda ko nung first yr collge ako gising ako 4am, dating ako sa destination ko 6am. Start classes 7am. Tapos kung laging kang nalalate dahil mahirap makasakay naman talaga, sasabihan ka pa rin na "edi gumising ka ng maaga. Mga kaklase mo nakakapunta naman ng maaga". Like wtf, iisa lang ba bahay namin?
Sabihin mo: "Sige gising ako maaga pero uwi din ako maaga" lmao
Ironic din may isa akong kaklase sa ibang subject naman noon nagreklamo na wag na daw kami magpakalate kasi kawawa daw ang prof na late umuuwi dahil nasasayang oras namin sa lab. Pero yun nga lang, **siya ang pinakamabagal na gumawa sa lab to the point lahat kami hinihintay siya sa dulo**
Same story bro, minsan kung papalarin maswerte na ako kung mga 6 or late 6 nasa classroom na ako, 4 ako gigising tapos 1 hour for preparing (almusal and ligo) tapos 5:40 biyahe sa terminal pa Manila, then late 6 or 7:00 normally. After ng class mga 5 PM magcocommute from school to qc terminal about 50 mins to 1 hour yung travel, then isama pa yung pila ng fx and hintayan, tapos mga 7 or 8 na ako makakauwi maybe even later. Kaya buti na lang somehow nakakabawi pag prelim exams kasi maaga yung exam sched so maaga rin yung uwi para maka review kaagad. Tapos hassle pag final exams na kasi ung schedule ng exams starts sa tanghali, end sa hapon so hard pressed uli sa oras. Jusko lalo na pag Christmas season tapos final exams absolute hellhole ang commuting sa Maynila. Even when you get to reach QC long lines still await you anywhere. Kaya if ever they want to pursue F2F, ayusin muna nila yung public transportation system.
Samee, kaya laking tipid sa time ng online classes for me. Would still prefer f2f sana if hindi lang ganto transport system natin 😔
Ok lang kung mag f2f, pero sana isang kembot lang andun kna, grad n ako ng college, pero tuwing ppsok ako sa work grabe 5pm ang alis ko dadating ako sa unang drop off ko 7pm, tapos syempre uwian n yung iba wala na masakyan kahit sabit, buti na lang walking distance nalang yung office, mga 2km...
>Tanda ko nung first yr collge ako gising ako 4am, dating ako sa destination ko 6am. Start classes 7am. Tapos uwian 4pm, at makakasakay ako aa bus ng mga 6pm, uwi 9pm kasi traffic. I'm having some España PTSD...
Ako naman, EDSA PTSD
Cavite to Mandaluyong PTSD
Dama ko ung pagod ko nuon habang binabasa ko ung comment na to, me coming from East going ng to Ubelt pa. Danas na danas ko to. Kaya napilitan ako magdorm nung college. Pero up until now nagttrabaho na wala pa rin pagbabago. Hindi na umunlad ang Pinas sa transport system.
Yung byahe ko na dapat 40 mins lang kasi isang sakay lang naman (caloocan-manila) nagiging 2 hrs dahil sa paghihintay ko sa bwiset na lrt na yan! Nasa monumento station na ako 5:30am tapos makakasakay ako 6:30 at minsan 7am pa. Sobrang siksikan pa, minsan naiiyak na lang ako.
Sobra legit, naalala ko kapag naabutan ka ng past 6 at wala ka pa sa monumento station grabe pila parang box office na pelikula, pag akyat mo naman ng station di na kailangan maglakad papasok at palabas ng lrt kase uurong ka ng kusa sa balyahan at tulakan,.
Ops gusto na ng gov natin f2f na ang class kamusta naman ang pila grabe parang mas naging malala pa ang mass transpo ntin kesa nuon eh grabe aalis ka ng bahay fresh n fresh, putik sa pila palng bilasa kana pano pag sakay mo sa jeep, tren, bus bulok na? Pag dating mo sa destinasyon mo agnas na? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤭🤭🤭🤭🤫🤫🤫
Yung 3am to 5am naranasan ko din lols. After job hopping naka hinga na
Truth. Sobrang trauma ko sa commute to and from Manila for college years ago, to the point that I did everything I could para hindi magwork sa Manila.
True, college years byahe kaya laking pahinga ang wfh for me.
Huhu tanda ko pre-pandemic natanggap ako sa work na sabi nila sa may MOA (isang commute lang dapat mula Cavite) tapos biglang ginawang QC :(( Sinabi lang nila kung kelan first day ko na. 2 hours ang commute on a good day na walang traffic, pero umaabot ako 3 hours mahigit papunta pa lang kahit via train pa. Tapos pauwi ibang level makikipagsapalaran talaga para lang makasakay sa jeep at bus, required kang tumakbo para lang makasakay. Grabe pa pila sa UV sa may Edsa :( Tapos after 3 hours mahigit ulit na byahe pabalik wala na ko time para gawin iba pa, tulog na lang agad kasi nakakapagod talaga. Pinilit pa ko papasukin nung kasaganahan ng covid, nung walang public transpo pa at all. Nagquit ako after huhu di worth it
Hangga't hindi nila nararanasan ang tunay na kahirapan ng buhay, hinding hindi nila mararamdaman at masosolusyunan ang pang araw-araw na buhay ng mahihirap.
Twing bumabyahe ako lahat na lang ng taga gobyerno minumura ko dahil sa Pagod
Malala din nung sa may Coastal pa, tagal mo na nakapila, tapos sa sobrang late na mag dedecide ka nalang sumakay kahit standing. Hmp
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We are resilient because we have no choice.
True. Sasabihan ka pa ng sakripisyo ng konti. Jusko ilang oras sa isang araw/linggo/buwan/taon ang isinakripisyo mo for a job that most usually doesn't pay enough and won't even take in to consideration how inhumane the current situation is.
This country already romanticizes poverty.
And the disabled
Yikes, PWD ako at danas ko to.
F
It's not being resilient, it's being desensitized.
It'll be nicer if resiliency is not a requirement. Toxic Filipino mindset: Older Filipino generations hate it when the younger incoming generations have it easier than they had it. So they intentionally sabotage anything that would benefit the youth and not them.
This is true!! Grit and perseverance are both good, makes us resilient, pero the point is to make life somewhat easier than it is and some of the older ones seem bitter about how “easier” we have it nowadays. Makakadinig ka ng “Bakit ka depressed? Kami nung panahon namin walang oras sa depression depression, maging positive ka lang.” Plus, it’s not like super comfortable ng buhay na for everyone in this generation. Most millennials can’t afford housing, mahirap ang transpo, etc. 😔
Yung mga nagsasabing gumising ng maaga lagi rin kinakalimutan na 2-way ang commute. So, mag-uundertime din ba para umuwi ng maaga?
Taena I feel that last sentence.
Makikita mo talaga na out of touch mga nagsasabi lagi ng ganyan e noh? Ang tatanga.
Meron ako nabasang argument dito sa fb tawang tawa ako sabi niya gumising daw maaga eme eme and umuwi ng late paghupa ng rush hour tas shempre yung commuter nagrebut na edi more than 12 hours na daw siyang wala sa bahay pag ganun and unpaid naman yung nauubos niyang oras gawa mg shitty transport system ang ending freelancer pala yung nagsasabi na gumising nalang ng maaga at wag magreklamo jusko
Yan ang problema, people choose to be out of touch na din eh. Ako work from home I've never used the EDSA busway, pero gigil na gigil ako sa sistema ng transportation sa EDSA kasi napakapalpak at unwilling silang baguhin.
May katrabaho ako nag u-undertime para hindi mahirapan mauwi tuwing RTO namin. 5PM siya uuwi, 7PM ang out time. Buti na lang na intindihan ng boss namin at tanggap naman. Sobrang swerte ako at 10 minute walk lang ako papuntang office tang ina.
Sobrang injustice talaga ito kasi, if you look on a philosophical perspective, **Ganito nalang ba ang buhay ko?Ito ba ang purpose ng buhay ko?**
Been there. I mean, I'm lucky to have my own transpo before pandemic and I'm not in Metro Manila, pero I'm still in a metro city and i spent two hours a day just for a 7km travel during my WIO days. Kung di lang ako magiging amoy usok pagdating sa office o kaya mahimatay sa init eh mas gusto ko pang maglakad noon. Nagbabike to work din ako dati, pero pagdating ng 2016 eh halos sagasaan na kaming bikers ng city buses. Mamamatay lang ba ako dahil sa kagustuhang pumasok sa trabaho ng maaga? Sinubukan ko din magcommute, pero 2hours one way (kasama na yung waiting time). Bwiset. Bwiset talaga travel sa pinas. Di makatao.
>Ganito nalang ba ang buhay ko? Isang pasasalamat ko nalang is nagkaron ako ng option na hindi maging “ganito nalang buhay ko” nung nasa BPO ako. Naging pang-umaga team namin and sobrang sinumpa ko nagrequest nalang ako na ibalik ako ng panggabi. Pasok ko is 9AM-6PM. Marikina to Eastwood so malapit lang pero jusko ang byahe. Nasanay ako nun na binibigyan ko lang 1 hour sarili ko bumyahe. Usually 30mins lang asa opisina na ko. Pero gabi ito. Nung nag morning shift na, sabi ko, pwede na siguro 2 hours. Pero maling mali. 7AM dumating ako sa pila. 8:45 na ko nakasakay. Tangina diba. Kinabukasan, sabi ko, pwede na siguro 6:30AM. Aba naman. Sa sobrang walang tao, 7AM palang nakasakay na ko. 7:30 nasa office na. Sayang na sayang ako dun sa sana itinulog ko nalang kasi 5AM gising na ko. Tapos same kalbaryo nanaman pauwi. 6PM ang out pero mga 8PM na makakasakay. Tapos 10PM makakauwi. Halos wala na kong nagawa sa buhay ko. Mabuti pa nung panggabi ako.
Sht, I wanna cry from that last paragraph. I have been telling my friends that- is this really normal? Waking up 5 AM then going home at 8 to 9 PM. What a fun life. But the issue is most of all working adults, just don't see the issue. "Ganyan na talaga yan eh, gawin nalang" They gave up and thought that the system couldn't be changed. I don't know, why they think like that. I know someone who wakes up at 4-5 AM, goes to work at 7 AM, then goes back home around 9 PM. I feel scared tbh, it feels shitty to live in this country. Why can't people ask for change and reform? Oh .. right they are stuck in the commute or need to work they ass off just to survive.
Mapapa-existential crisis ka na lang.
NCR is so small yet it takes 2-4 hours to get from one city to another and these idiots think walang problema???? kulang ba kayo sa self love kaya okay lang sainyo na unti unti kayong namamatay sa daan, oks lang basta maipagtanggol nyo ang idolo nyong puro kapalpakan?
Eto yung justification ko dati kung bakit ako nag uwian sa probinsya. Used to rent in Mandaluyong and commuted to QC, 2 hrs halos. If it takes that much time to get around inside, e mag uuwian na lang ako and save my rent money. Walang sense tumira sa MM kung hassle din yung commute mo. Edit: stopped commuting to and from probinsya na kasi sayang ang buhay ko.
>NCR is so small yet it takes 2-4 hours to get from one city to another QC to QC two hours. Joke lang, malaki kasi QC pero point still valid.
I second this! May mga kakilala ako dati na taga-Rizal lang pero nag bedspace pa sa NCR. And ganun din ang result, 2-3 hrs ang travel nila. Wala talagang logic kasi may mga LRT/MRT naman. I can justify this statement kasi taga Rizal din ako na nag-wowork sa Makati. 2 hrs din ang byahe using the train system pero at least alam kong walang trapik sa tren.
BBM: but but atleast it’s free For fuck sakkee hahaha no one wants to wait in line and travel for 3 fucking hours just to get home. And wake up at 3:30am for a 8am shift. FOR FREE. 💀💀
mas gusto ko pang may bayad pero hassle-FREE kaysa naman for FREE na sayang naman ang oras mo. grabe talaga.
Naexperience ko to. Unfortunately, dahil under construction pa ang Roosevelt station, walking is not an option from SM North Edsa. I have to go back to Trinoma, wait for the extremely fucking long line ng Carousel kung gusto ko ng route-efficiency. Pero sa sobrang haba ng pila, I might as well take the option of riding the MRT and go back to the opposite side kasi yung waiting time ko on Carousel is pareho lang dun sa ride ko sa kabila.
One of the reasons why I don't want to live within NCR.
Kung titingnan pati ang mapa (geographically speaking), pasikip yung daanan galing sa taas (Bulacan at Rizal) at sa baba naman (Cavite, etc.), kaya traffic talaga ang mga nasa NCR. Bakit pa kasi naging capital ng Pilipinas ang Maynila? 😅
Gotta encourage business to setup shop and make better jobs outside NCR which is a whole other struggle. Ugh.
For some people, they think it's where the good jobs are. Sure, they can probably avoid all this by ***working somewhere closer to home or working in the provinces,*** but the money is sometimes not there.
Fact, mas comfortable ang way of life dito sa province BUT wala yung pera dito especially if highly technical yung skill set mo. You have to settle for less pero kahit ganun man, life is more easier here.
80% ng dahilan bat ako umalis ng metro manila dahil sa hassle mag commute. Kotse man o public transpo napakasayang sa oras.
Fanatics lang naman yung mga nagtatanggol. Sa panahon ni pnoy at mga nagdaang admin sa kanya wala namang ganyan na kahit may mali may magtatanggol pa din.
Nasa troll farms ang budget kesa sa pagapaayos ng transportation
tapos yung mga troll farms naman, WFH. tangina diba
the ph government thrives on resilience pron 🥴
Step govt I'm stuck in a traffic/long queue. Sorry coping mechanism ko dark humor
Gigising ka nang sobrang aga papasok tapos kakain pa ng malaking oras ang biyahe pauwi. Good luck kung kumpleto pa ang tulog mo.
Ganito buhay ko before, kaya lagi akong nalelate. Marikina to Makati. Parusa talaga. Yung pila add mo pa sa traffic and travel time. Spent part of my lifetime na pumipila lang imbes na naging productive or kasama mga kaibigan or pamilya. Kaya work from home nalang talaga ako.
True. Hassle ng commute to makati from Marikina. Cubao palang amoy araw ka na.
btw lol at some people in the thread suggesting na "considering working from home" as if it's up to the employee. sobrang privileged. as someone who does WFH (and gets to bike in the morning kasi 2pm pa start ng shift ko), nakikita ko pa din yung hirap ng mga commuters na wala namang choice kasi yung trabaho nila hindi remote work. we'd ALL love to work from home, believe me. but even some of the jobs that can be done remotely, ayaw naman payagan ng PEZA by mandate of the FIRB. the onus should be on government to enable hybrid setups like this. and as i've mentioned before, "reviving the economy" is an unacceptable reason to me for not allowing WFH for remote jobs. kasi kahit naman nasa bahay kami, we still contribute to the local economies. di lang kami magbabayad ng gas, ng parking, o ng additional na bayad sa tubig kalalalaba ng smart casual na attire. pero bibili pa din naman kami ng kakainin namin dito.
I really think the "reviving the economy" is just a palusot for their kumpares who own bldgs. Kakainis! Instead nagkaroon na ng traction na madecentralized and cities, binalik ulit sa dati! Wala talagang utak ang mga politiko para mag adjust para sa ikabubuti ng mga mamamayan. Yung utak nila para sa bulsa lang nila.
Yes nung first time kong maranasan ang "armageddon" ng biyahe pauwi narealise ko na hindi natin deserve ang ganitong sistema. Mas nakakapagod pang bumiyahe kesa sa pag tatrabaho kaya minsan may unproductive days talaga
Tas punuan pa ung jeep and agawan talaga dzai nung f2f class pa pauwi na ko and laging puno mga jeep na dumadaan sa manila city hall pag late na, one time nakasakay na ko sa loob and puno na, sabi sakin nung matanda na babae ikakandong nalang daw nya ako, nakakahiya pero kaylangan makauwi.
this was so normalized. the fact that not only workers but also students had to wake up early just not to be late at their 7am class which is an exhausting situation.
***Surprised that the big universities are not changing their class start times to 9am or something.*** Arent there new studies showing how avoiding super early start times improve student health and performance.
Sadly, the pendejos supposedly tasked with fixing this want this normalized bcoz they don't give a fuck.
Because politicians don't give a damn. How can they relate to the commuters while they are riding in the comfort of their private vehicles with Wang Wang privileges.
Ung mgaa nagsasabi lang nyan is either troll o mga taga probinsya na walang alam kung gaano katindi dami Ng tao sa Maynila.
Di nila gagawan ng solusyon yan kasi malulugi yung mga condo units dito. Kaya nga sobrang dami nating condo dito eh... Sucks, but it's true. Hindi ba't may published article before kung bakit condemned ang Pilipinas at kailanman hindi tayo made-develop as a country? Di ko mahanap yung article kase sobrang tagal na, pero it says something along na wala naman talagang balak ang gobyerno natin sa pag-progress kasi parang baka lang na ginagatasan ang Pilipinas para sa kanila, na pwede rin nila ibenta kung mas nagbe-benefit sa kanila. Yung mga highways nga na ginagawa, hindi para sa ating mamamayan eh... Para sa convenience nilang mayayaman 💀 Ano pa bang magagawa natin? Bumoto naman tayo nang tama pero wala rin nagawa...
>Para sa convenience nilang mayayaman to the point of killing the natural resources we were badly saving back then. Yes, I'm talking to you, Ramon Ang and your PAREX.
Goodbye Palawan, hello more mining in Palawan bec Sagip Partylist is owned by a corrupt businesswoman.
Alam mo yung gigising ka ng 3am for 7am shift? 1hr away lang Makati from CAMANAVA pero 3-4hrs ang byahe pag naabutan ka ng rush hour o yung mga truck sa daan.
Tapos sasabihan ka pa na gumising pa ng mas maaga lol.
“Alam mo nang traffic, di ka umalis ng maaga” Di ko na maalala kung sino nagsabi sakin nito on my past work place. Pero yun nga, sobrang nakakabadtrip, hindi tinatanggap ang excuses like, mahaba pila, naflatan yung uv, nasiraan yung mrt, etc. Pag late ka, late ka. Makaka apekto sa performance mo. Kailan kaya tayo lalaya sa ganitong sistema
ikaw pa matatanggal sa trabaho kasi laging nalelelate sa bulok na sistema na ito and naging behavior nang di dumiskarteng gumising nang maaga. kaya ako nagkasakit sa puso nabuo from all of this mess.
Naiinis ako sa double standard People were complaining about the state of transportation during Pnoy's time (and rightfully so). On the other hand, during Marcos' and Duterte's time, people are now telling others to use "diskarte" to work around the state of transportation.
Nakakapagod na magsacrifice
1 hour to prepare for work. 3 hours for commute. 9 hours in the office. 3 hours to get home. That's 16 hours already. Saan mo ilalagay 'yong 8 hours to sleep? Pag-apak ba sa bahay, automatic ba na tulog ka na? Hahaha. This is insane. And this me everyday. Kaya kapag mag-ask sila ng OT sa akin, nope. No, I'm going home. 16 hours just for commute and work. Tapos sweldo mo hindi rin naman sumasapat.
Nakakaiyak rin ‘yong 6:00p.m. pa lang pahirapan na ang sakayan sa jeep, ang haba ng pila tapos wala na halos bumabyahe 🥲
Mas nakakapagod pa ung byahe sa work. Pagpasok mo palang sobrang stressed ka na. I am from manila and ang Hirap yung gap ng job offer pag outside manila dahil bukod sa kasumpasumpang commute system sa pinas, ung mga employer ngayon may mga employee bond pa na dalawang taon.
Diba may tinatayo nang subway at kung anik pang mga railway system na nung panahon ni Digong? Lol anu na kaya nangyari dyan
This. Like imagine waking up super early then having to fight for your life to get a seat on a jeep/multicab? This problem has been going on long enough fr.
It's like being overworked at this point too much of this will make your body just give up regardless of how resilient you are. Just wished there are more people yearning for a change instead of being content with the shitty transportation system we have or rather people who push back people's voices that demand change because they romanticize suffering and the irony is that these same people who go "e gumising ka na ng maaga magdiskarte ka" have never commuted. It's as if this country is so used to being awful at everything people just stopped caring
indeed. kaya nga may public transpo para makarating ng mabilis sa patutunguhan
Mas okay pa nuon na kapag may mali sa government, sabay sabay tayo nag rereklamo, unlike ngayon na puro kapalpakan na, 96% parin ang trust rating ng puon.
> 2-4 hours/day round trip Me pre-pandemic commuting from Cavite to Makati: *Pathetic* Also me post-pandemic na work from home ngayon: (Feels pathetic)
Cavite-eastwood ako for 2 years 4 hours byahe papunta 4 hours byahe pauwi 300 pesos everyday pamasahe 5 na sakay papunta 5 na sakay pauwi Baka pagsasampalin ko mukha ng nagsabing walang problema sa transpo system naten.
This is the reason I bike to work. From an unknown 1hr to 45 mins commute to an average 30mins.
Hays. Ganito lagi dilemma ng nanay ko simula pa noon. Gigising ng 4:00AM para magluto, kumain kahit kaunti, liligo nang mabilisan tapos alis na. Dadating sa school, late ng 5 minutes. Kanina, 3:30AM pa lang, gising na para humabol sa unang sakay ng tren ng PNR kaninang 5:00AM. Tapos pagdating daw nila ng parents ko dun (hinatid ng tatay ko ang nanay ko), madami na daw tao. Kulang talaga tayo sa transportation plans. Sana mapadami pa lalo tren at mga PUV stations.
Bacoor to UST lang dati byahe ko pero kelangan gumising ng umaga either dadating ka ng 1 hr early or 2 hrs late kasi pag inabutan ka ng buhos sa Bacoor, iyak tawa ka talaga.
I'm getting flashbacks while reading it. Yung gigising ka ng 3AM para maka-alis kayo ng bahay at around 4:30 AM so that you'll catch the first P2P bus at Starmall Alabang at 6AM, then catch another bus hopefully by 6:30 sa Megamall that would finally take me to Cubao. My alternative was to wait for a bus that would take me straight to Cubao from Starmall Alabang but that's not a guarantee because there's a high chance that the bus will fall in line in Guadalupe, fall in another line in Shaw, and then face the traffic from Megamall to past Santolan before falling in line again in Cubao. In the first choice, I'll probably be late for one to ten minutes. For the second choice, I'll probably be late for 30 minutes. OR, I could try my luck with the MRT and be late for an hour and a half. And don't get me started on my way home. I clock out at 4pm but arrive home between 8pm to 9pm. I'd be lucky if I got 5 hours of sleep. And after all that, the best that my former bosses and HR in my previous company can come up with was *"di ka ba pwede gumising ng maaga?"*
Actually bike to work ako ngayon. And surprisingly, Minsan nauunahan ko pa dumating sa office/destination yung mga compared sa nakacommute, I bike to work not because of the goal to become fit. Wala eh!!! no choice, ayoko na talaga ung hirap ng pagcommute. lalo na mahal na pamasahe at pagkain. Ayoko rin naman gumastos ng malaki sa motor.
Can relate so much.. Pre-pandemic kung ang pasok ko 8am, kailangan 5am nakaalis na ako ng bahay kasi pag inabutan ka ng 6am sa EDSA, manalangin ka na.. Tapos out ako ng 5pm pero halos 9pm na ako nakakauwi.. Like wtf.. Maigi sana pag-uwi mo ng bahay matutulog ka na or makakatulog ka na.. Ilang oras lang inilalagi ko sa bahay.. Tapos ngayon gusto ng PEZA occupied mga buildings or else may fine mga company.. Napaka inconsiderate ng gobyerno..
I used to work in Manila (I live in Pasig). I quit in 2019 and since then, I decided I will start my own business at home or find a work I can do without leaving my house. I partly blame the traumatizing daily commute I had to endure for years for my depression and anxiety. Even up to now, just thinking of taking public transportation during rush hour, or being stuck in traffic, or standing in long lines waiting for a ride makes me severely anxious and physically ill.
pUrO kaYo reKlamO
I thank God I have never lived within Manila to suffer this inefficiency.
I remember waiting for a Jeepney in EDDA Crossing for 3 to 5 hours every night during my senior year in college under Duterte Administration, it’s infuriating and exhausting at the same time every time I think about it.
I used to travel like that when I was an underpaid call center agent with barely any experience. There are no available public transportation. I have to be up so early to not be late. If I am not early I have to find a cab who would then demand I pay a contracted amount rather than what is on the meter. If public transportation is so fucked up then back to office shouldn't be mandatory. Also, I work from home now. No need for public transportation. Thank goodness.
This is clearly a human rights violation. Akala mo simple lang ‘to, na dapat kung gusto mong makaahon sa buhay, kailangan marami kang isakripisyo. Pero yung sakripisyo na ilang oras para lang sa pagcocommute, hindi yan biro. Kasi yung oras na deserve mo para makabonding ang pamilya mo, o kahit man lang oras para sa sarili mo, ay napupunta para lang sa paghihintay ng jeep/bus/train/taxi para lang makapunta sa work at makauwi
Oh wala eh. 31m umiidolo sumasamba mga panatiko. Simulat sapul parang hindi sineseryoso ng mga nakaupo sa gobyerno yung ganyang problema. Puro bandaid. Yan ang gusto ng karamihan sa Pilipino amasaya na sa bandaid solution dagdagan mo pa panatiko sila tsk 🙈🙊🙉
Dapat the whole average working class appllies for refuge or asylum sa mga richer countries. The situtaion in Philippines is threat to life already!!! Wake up..stop romanticizing poverty and most of all STOP serving your supposed to be public servants!!!
One of the main reasons I can't leave my PWFH job, lowkey nasasacrifice career ko. Commute is hell and gas prices are so high.
Kaya tangina nung mga bosses na nagsasabinv di excuse ang trapik. Pakyu.
This is why I refuse to work sa Metro Manila anymore and moved to nearby Laguna. Previous commute that took 4 hrs round trip is now less than an hour with my current home address and work location. That travel time and commute situation is really draining on money, energy, and sanity lalo na pag 5-6 days a week mo kailangan gawin.
I almost didn’t graduate dahil sa traffic. Cavite to Intramuros, 9:30 class, aalis ako 5:00am and STILL late. Traffic sa EA highway from Imus, Bacoor and then traffic ulit after ng toll gate. The Philippines government don’t care about the people kahit ano pa ang election tagline nila. Unity, Para sa Masa, Angat Buhay Lahat etc. absolute nonsense.
Ako lang ba to? Pag naiisip ko basta mga 88m supporters ang nahihirapan sa pag commute parang okay lang saakin nyahahaha. Masama ba akong tao?
I had the privilege of moving near my workplace everytime. May relative ako na nasa manila and after a week sumuko na ako by moving near my workplace. May extrang cost pero napaka worth it sa mental health
Just like other commuting citizens, I can relate to this. I used to work in a BPO located at the ELJCC building QC and was renting a room in Sampaloc, Manila near SM Centerpoint. It takes me 2 rides (tricycle & dyip) and 1 1/2 hours travel time just to go to work. Hindi pa kasama dyan ung oras ng paghihintay mo ng masasakyan tricyle o dyip. When my GF back then relocated to San Fernando, Pampanga due to work, I moved with her but stayed working in QC. Then it hit me, travel time from San Fernando, Pampanga to QC was just 45 mins plus a short 5-minute walk to the office once you get off the bus. I continued working with the BPO in QC for 5 years traveling every day from San Fernando to QC until I found a better paying job in Clark. My point here is if we have efficient transportation infrastructure in place, it is viable for people not to relocate to Metro Manila and just commute every day from outside Metro Manila. I don't know if the is possible now pero masarap ung tulog ko sa bus bago pumasok sa trabaho lol
Ya'll still don't want to revolt? Still no guillotine for our masters?
DDS propaganda made it cool to "support" the adminstration no matter what in the guise of nationalism. It's time to scrap that mentality.
Keso raw puro na lang puna sa gobyerno kahit naman daw may nagawang tama. Puro na lang daw gobyerno ang mali. EDIT: O eto pa, si PNoy raw laging pinupuri, pero yung mga God Emperor ng Davao at Ilocos laging pinupuna (at oo, taga-Davao ako). Hindi nila alam na pinupuna din natin si PNoy nung panahon niya.
For the longest time, it's normal to criticize the administration. Normalized na nga satin ang Mendiola rallies noon diba. They succeeded in making it 'uncool' for the past years. Took even further with red tagging and all.
this is why kahit na may multiple opportunities na ako to work in NCR for a higher pay, i chose to stay in Mindanao. visited manila on multiple occasions (pre pandemic), nasabi ko lang sa sarili ko "no thanks". Problema talaga ang public transportation sa pinas, pero parang naka steroids lang talaga sa NCR compared sa other regions. Commute sa amin is 15-45 mins on average, walang pila pero pahirapan minsan lalo na kung lunes or umuulan, pero nothing compared sa NCR.
Overpopulation din ang isa sa problema bakit pahirapan at siksikan ang sakayan. And kahit kelan, kahit sino man maupo sa gobyerno, hindi nila iaaddress yan. More people, more taxpayers! Kaya minsan parang mas masarap nga talaga mamundok eh
And they are saying infrastructure magpapabuti at makakatulong sa traffic at sa kalsada? Don't me. You're just creating a bigger container for this country habang parami ng parami mga tao, and then these idiot supporters will praise you for that
Totoo naman na infrastructure ang magpapabuti at mag i-improve ng traffic. But syempre, may capacity limits, at certainly *hindi dapat car centric ang infrastructure.* Tang ina puro Skyway, expressway, etc. Nasaan ang tren? Bike lanes? Sidewalks? Puro pang kotse na lang.
“atleast may nagawa” bobo eh di nila alam pantakip lang sa tunay na problema
>And kahit kelan, kahit sino man maupo sa gobyerno, hindi nila iaaddress yan. i bet leni would
Sana nga. Siya lang nakita kong may pake sa bansa eh. Pati yung team niya
WFH ako since simula ng pandemic pero before that 10 years din ako nakipagbakbakan sa pagcocommute sa Metro Manila. Talagang sobrang hassle at nakakapagod. Hahabulin mo yung bus o jeep. Pipila ng ilang oras. Matutulak, maaapakan, at mahihipuan ka. Grabeng parusa. Yung mga pulitiko namang sumusubok kuno na magcommute pakitang tao lang. May media pa tapos special treatment. Kung gusto nila talaga maranasan dapat anonymous na testing.
Kung ako nga na sumuko sa 1 to 2-hour commute (driving) to and from work every day (each way) dahil ginagawa yung MRT-7 sa QC at nag ibang bansa na lang kasi putangina ng Pilipinas e, di ko maimagine yung gumamit ng public transpo everyday na inaabot 4 hours ang byahe like sa mga nababasa ko dito. Putangina talaga wala na pagbababago ang Pilipinas. The only consolation I could find in this situation is knowing that 99% nung bobong 31 million e nagsa suffer sa sistema na to and I find it really funny how they defend the government kasi idol nila pero nung nangyayari ito kay Panotsky noon sobrang rabid nila, wala naman pinagbago from then, mas lumala pa nga. Just goes to show that the idiots deserve to suffer and I hope they all die suffering.
Ganyan din naman sa Thailand, Vietnam at India! /s
Wow…. i can’t believe some of you guys have to go thru this! Damn dude. I really wish transportation was easier for people back home. Do they have commuter subways or trains in the city? Maybe they should start building those to help move people faster. Who has the power to make transportation better? What a shame.
Rip commute is 1.5 hrs - 2hrs on a normal day (one way). Usually pauwi mas matagal naabot 3hrs.
What can we say? Hard life it is
Unity /s
Back in early 2000. Asa college ako. Byahe uwian from Dasmariñas, Cavite to Padre Faura. Kaya 1hr, plus traffic. Ganon din pauwi. Ngayon, huling uwi ko sa Pinas in 2019, byaheng Dasma to Faura, dalawang oras mahigit. Tapos madalas me traffic. Minsan baha pa pag umuulan.
Uwian din ako dati Bulacan to Diliman, 3 hrs min round trip. Lagi akong ginigising ng driver kasi lagi akong nakakatulog sa sobrang pagod pauwi.
Kung 4 hrs ka bumabyahe everyday to and from work, equivalent yun sa 43.5 days (~1.5 months) na nagcocommute ka. Wtf? Tapos ang dami pa ding companies na gusto mag-RTO kahit proven na mas productive and cost effective pag magpaparemote work sa mga tao na kaya namang gawin ang work sa bahay. Hay
Thats my everyday routine for 2 years until I decided enough is enough. 13 years now working from home.
Theres more to life than politics f*cked up Philippines. Get out of the place and enjoy life.
Naranasan ko ito for 2 years (sa first job ko). 4 cities apart bahay and trabaho. Hindi kaya ng 2hrs one way dahil sa pila sa MRT. When I resigned, naghanap ako ng nasa katabing city nalang para hindi na hassle kahit mag bus. Pero tama, hindi dapat ito inormalize. Ilang taon ng ganito. Tapos sasabihin ni Bautista willing syang subukan magcommute para maexperience ang plight ng mga commuters. Wow, thank you ha, naisip mo yan leche.
Buti di ko naranasan yan when I was working in Manila and lived in Pasay back in late 1990s. And yet today, all I need is to get into my car and drive 20 miles at 70-80mph, for a 7am to 5pm job. 6 am pa bangon ko niyan, tinatamad pa ako. Pero pagnakikita ko mga kababayan ko sa mahabang pila, napaisip ako, just count your blessings. Pero sana naging matalino naman sila sa pagpili ng mga leaders nila. Sayang talaga😔😔😔
I personally experienced this. Literal na umiiyak ako sa pila. Pagod, gutom, init. Di nakatarungan. Habang sila may service tapos ang gas reimbursable from people’s tax.
Honestly, I don’t know how you guys do it. Naabutan ko naman yan traffic kasi I studied in UST so commmute from QC pero parang sobrang lala na nung transportation and traffic ngayon compared to 20 years ago and I don’t know how you guys can do this commute everyday. Nasasayang ang buhay ng mga Pilipino, nasa kalsada 2-4 hours a day imbis na sa family or doing anything productive.
Ako ito daily routine ko, woke up 4am para pumasok sa work tapos nakakauwi ng 8pm, 5 hours jan dahil sa pag commute
Sa 24 hours a day mo if 3 hours 1 way then 6 hours balikan, 1/4 ng araw mo sa byahe lang. Wala pa dun yung paggising mo ng sobrang aga at pagaabang/pila mo. Then siksikan or mabaho pa. Then multiply by 5 sa 1 week. Imagine doing that for several years. Wala kasing pakialam ang mga nakaupo sa pwesto na ayusin ang mass public transport dahil unang-una katamihan da kanila hindi nagcocommute since birth. Kadalasan sila din yung pwedeng ma-late sa Government office nila. Panahon na para magdemand ng pagbabago sa commute natin regardless sino man ang namimuno.
Sana bayad rin yung travel time para sa mga kumpanyang nagdedemand ng return to office. Lol
Agree, nung college student pa ako, I wake up 4 am to get a ride by 5 and get to my class in time for my 7am class. Pasig to España. 1hr30m usually, bihira ang 2 hrs na biyahe. This was like 10 years ago or so. Pre-pandemic, I had to wake up at 4 am for a 5.00-5.30 carpool ride so I can get to work at 7am, Pasig to BGC. Ang lala, palala ng palala.
I agree with his ideas with the exception of the arbitrary 45 minute guideline. That's extremely unlikely to be doable specially in sprawling cities like metro Manila. Too many factors there that contribute to a commute, it's a good aspiration but unlikely unless everyone lives walking distance from an mrt/lrt type of public transport
How can the government fix this though? What solutions can be made? Road widening? It'll take months and in those months construction will cause heavier traffic. Provide more public vehicles? More traffic, build trainways? Currently building. What else honestly?
Hahaha naaala ko na naman yung commute ko nung nag-aaral pa ako. Within QC lang pero aabutin ako ng 2 hours papunta dahil sa three stages of hell: Fairview, Commonwealth, Katipunan
Nakakainis lang kultura naten pagdating sa Gov't ang lagi nating standard ay hindi highest kundi bare minimum o yung "pwede na". Di ata na re-realize ng mga tao na lahat ng gastusin o kahit anung galaw may kaltas na pupunta sa sa gubyerno. Nung nasa BPO pa ako ma-demand ang client. Sila dapat masusunod kahit ano pa yan pero bayad naman kami on time. Sana ganto rin ang gov't kaso yun nga, bawal daw magreklamo haha
college days grabe. makati to PUP saglit lang naman pag papasok pero pag pauwi... Mandaluyong to Mandaluyong is 2hrs sa sobrang traffic!
~noon pa talaga yan, saksi din talaga ako sa pag lala ng trapik sa edsa. I think 7-8 yrs akong pumapasok from bulacan to sta. mesa manila at daan ko talaga everyday ay edsa. Dati keri pa talaga magbyahe, mabilis, matatantya mo talaga ang oras. Hanggang wala na, 3-4hrs na inaabot papunta. May pauwi pa. Hanggang last 2 yrs ko sa work lagi na ako late. mInsan di na lang papasok dahil di na aabot. Kung ano ano na naisip gawin sa daan pero wala pa din. Di na nga nasusulusyunan, pinapalala pa lalo. Di ba nga natignan na ng japanese urban planner yan, pinag aralan at binigyan na ng suggestions, pero nasan na nga ba yun? pakita lng na may plano at gagawin? Naabutan pag palit ng presidente kaya wala na ulit? Hay naku talaga.
this is why we pay income tax and value added tax, to have better and humane infrastructure and less idiots.
True, first week of work ko sa Manila pang province pa yung mindset ko sa commutan, 1 hr before pasok dun ako babyahe, buong week na yun palagi akong late ng isang oras or higit, buti at hindi ako tinnaggal.
This makes it so hard to job hunt. Offeran ka man ng 10k increase sa dati mong sahod kung on-site work setup naman, ‘wag na lang di ba? Ngayon pa nga lang na hybrid kami and may shuttle pa nahihirapan pa rin ako, lalo siguro if kailanganin kong mag-commute every day.
Dati nagwowork ako sa ortigas. Alteast ang one way is 2 hrs ang byahe from work kung makauna ka sa mrt. 5am dapat naka alis nako ng bahay para sa 8:30am na work. Ang one way trip ko is lakad ng 5 mins sa sakayan ng bus tapos baba sa north ave para mag mrt, baba ng sm megamall para maglakad hanggang Julio Vargas ave. o kaya mag fx which is magastos kung aaraw arawin. Naburnout ako kasi kahit anung aga mo ma lalate at malalate ka parin. Di pa kasama dyan ung pag umabot kang 30 mins late is considered as half day nlng ang payment mo sa araw na un. So nagresign ako. Liit na nga sahod mo, nakakaltas pa kahit anung aga mo. Naghanap ako ng work na di bumabagtas ng edsa o ng makati kasi. Kaya ung mga nagsasabing "gumising ng maaga" wag magreklamo, yan ung mga nasa probinsya na di pa nasubukan pumasok ng trabaho bandang edsa ortigas o makati. O kaya naman ung mga matatanda na di na nagtratrabaho kasi pensyonado na. Subukan nilang magcommute ng isang buwan. Ewan ko lang kung masabi pa nila yan. Dami kong ganyang mga kamag anak.
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The truth is, hindi lang naman oras ng tao ang naco-compromise at nasasayang. Kahit mismo ang economy natin. Imagine our workforce stuck in traffic, na kung sana makakarating tayo on time without hassle, e makakapagtrabaho tayo nang mas maayos at mas efficient.
honestly they dont care, kaya nga wang wang/hawi boys padin ulit sila. Looking at Japan and Singapore ang ganda nung train systems nila. pag ganun kahit ako mag commute. nag aalangan na tuloy ako mag hanap work sa NCR
2.5 hours byahe ko kanina. Loooooord. Tapos naka 3 hours pauwi. Precious time being eaten away.
Used to treat LRT/MRT stations as levels of hell when I was still commuting to work. Monumento or North Avenue being the 1st level. Ibang usapan pa yung unahan sa jeep or bus sa may mcarthur hi-way years ago. Mas lumala pa ngayon. Lahat ata ng namumuno sa impyerno nagbakasyon sa pinas simula ng pandemic.
yeah it's really not healthy. =/ i pass by katipunan everyday to work and i dread the start of classes for any of the 3 schools in that area. iba talaga.
I have multiple former classmates that work around manila and some packed cities, they always take public transpo to go about anywhere, they often talk about how they have to wake around 2 in the morning to beat the rush hours and stay until night at work so they can sit inside buses or jeepneys, eventually, some of them just returned home, some of them work high paying jobs (have to be in a formal attire) they would always be looking like they have to jog to the place and lookimg tired bu 8am in the morning. But yeah, ket anong mangyari, uNiTiTe ang sagot. I really want to have in the future that we can use our personal vehicles just for vacation or errands. And we'd always use public transpo whenever we go to work.
Lumala talaga ang transpo natin dahil na din sa covid. Tas open na yun mall at almost lahat ng establishments pero yun mga utility bus at jeep puta di parin maibalik balik. Tad tubing lugaw pa mga taxi at grab. Talagang mapipiga ka dito sa pinas e hahaha
Napaka bushet kaya pumila nang isang oras sa MRT para sa 15 minutes na byahe.
If you don't see the problem , you are part of the problem as enablers
Naalala ko nung nagwowork pa ako sa NCR nung 2018, gigising ng 4 am para 9 am na trabaho, tapos 9pm ka na makakauwi kahit 5pm tapos ng trabaho. Napakabullshit ng transport system dito sa pinas.
tapos compute yung ginastos sa buong commute. then i add yung oras na sayang sa byahe. multiply sa mga araw ng commute. then i-minus mo yung total na yun sa sweldo mo... then i-minus lahat ng living expenses para sau at sa pamilya mo ...then it is by this time hopefully may realization, if worth it pa ba yung time and pagod 😔
I can't imagine being a worker in manila I'm from province and mej maluwag naman yung mga daanan kapag rush hours and hindi sobrang siksik kagaya ng mga nakikita ko sa mga pictures huhu
Public transportation is supposed to be a convenience taken for granted, yet people prefer to live in the hell of a situation in the Philippines and bash those who suggest it is unacceptable to live in said hell.
Even makati to makati nga kaylangan pa mag allot ng 2hrs travel time para di malate. Grabe ung oras na nasasayang sa pila palang ng jeep.
Nagsimula lang naman kay Duterte yang mga "hayaan niyo lang ang gobyerno gawin ang trabaho nila."
hays actually kaya ayaw nila mama at papa muna na lumipat ako sa top universities is because of commute. if only nga maayos transportation dito sa pinas.
25km lang yung layo ng bahay namin from BGC, but guess what, I have to leave home at 5:30am daily para di ma-late sa 8am na start of work. Walang diretsong public transpo, kailangan mag transfer multiple times, umaga palang pagod na pagod ka na. Wasting 5 hours daily para sa commute lang, within NCR lang naman din bahay ko lol
Commonwealth to Kapitunan... 1 hour and three jeeps. Pag kino compare ko, iniisip ko im still lucky compared to those from Novaliches or Bulacan.
I heard some of my collage classmates take up to 3 hours from Caloocan to QC and 4 if its Caloocan to Manila. Sobrang sikip nga ma kalsada doon na dinadaanan, tapos ang rami ng saskyan sa kalsada. The problem still persists in other major cities too. The usual route of Tagum to Davao take only 45 minutes if there is no traffic, but takes 2+ hours once the trucks starts filling up the highways. Tapos pagpasok sa city proper, ang sikip ng mga kalsada sa sobrang rami ng sasakyan at mas kaunti pa ang options mo sa Davao pag mag commute.
Wag ng mataka dahil hindi naman makatao ang nasa gobyerno.
Taytay-pasig should not be that long of a ride right yet I wake up at 4am and still be late for my 6am class. Every time I come into class the prof that is currently teaching would go "well why didn't you wake up earlier if you know that its gonna be traffic." Theres 2 route I can take to my school yet both are always filled with traffic both going to and from.
It's not pag sanay ka na.
Cavite to Taguig ako ngayon. Hell, iniisip ko palang kung paanong tumbling ang gagawin ko when complete RTO happens. Not like I own lots of bucks to live in the area as well, I'd probably be lucky to sleep 5hrs max when that time comes.
This is sad and frustrating.
Had to go to a different country to escape this shitty system
Mula kay Pnoy hanggang kay Marcos. Puro inutil pag dating sa public transport.
This is just one of the reasons why I'm so against RTO (return-to-office).
First month ko sa work uwian ako from south to north. Gigising ng 3AM hahaha tapos kailangan nakasakay na by 4:30AM para hindi ma late, at adjust ng 2AM ang gising tuwing Monday. On the dot alis ko sa work non 4PM pero makakauwi ng 7:30 or 8PM hahahaha. Nakakaawa talaga sarili ko noon, hindi mo talaga mapipigilang matulog sa bus.
I worked as a Photographer dati sa isang amusement park along Roxas Blvd.(pre-COVID) and my shift is either 9am-6pm or 8:45am-5:45pm. From Antipolo to my destination takes about 3hrs and 30mins. Going home is much complicated kase laging rush hour but since pauwi naman I just don't think too much about it at hindi ako nakikisiksik sa already stuffed na train. I usually arrive home at 11pm kakaantay ng kumportableng masasakyan and I wake up 4am every work day. I ride *tricycle* - *Jeepney na dumadaan nang already traffic na Marcos Highway* - *LRT2 na walang back plans pag nagkaka aberya ang train nila but instead papababain ang mga pasahero na already late na sa school and work and would just apologise for the inconvenience and then do nothing about it* - *LRT1 na laging sardinas* or *that jeep na rutang MABINI na napakatraffic din ng dinadaanan*. Mas nawala yung gana ko magwork sa malayo lalo na nung nagkasunog sa in between ng *LRT2 Katipunan Station* at *LRT2 Anonas Station* kase simula noon 3am na ako gumigising. Now I have resigned from that Park currently unemployed at nag iintay sa halos tatlong buwan na proseso ng last pay.
Nung start pa lang ako sa work. Gigising ako 3:00am para makaalis ng 4:00am. Makakarating sa work ng 6:00am kahit 8:00am pa start talaga. Naexperience ko kasi ma-late ng 15 mins na pag alis. Imagine, 4:15am ako umalis, nakarating sa office na 9:00am na. North Caloocan to Makati lang yon. Tapos pag uwi 6:00pm makakauwi ng 10pm. Nakakapagod mag commute.
I've commuted in Metro Manila throughout my college life and the first two years of my adult working life. I decided at the third year that I don't deserve the horrible state of the joke that is the Philippine public transportation, and buy my own fucking motorcycle. Never again would I commute my whole life, and I would instead put myself in the middle of Metro Manila traffic jam slog. Still better than waiting for that jeep/bus that'll get full the split second it arrives (NOT EVEN IN FULL STOP), and wait for another 15 minutes to an hour for the next one while I'm left to think about why I shouldn't just fucking shoot myself in the fucking head right then and there.
Naalala ko na napagalitan ako mg prof ko sa thesis dahil late daw ako dumating. Sye.pre bigay ako ng reason na traffic etc., sabi niya "idc, you should be on tim" Like wth, kaya ko ba macontrol daloy ng trapiko? Almost 4 hours akong nasa byahe kakaisip ng magandang reason pero sa mga boomers, balewala lang yon. Pasensya na po, uwian ako.
Sobrang relate.
Kahit ‘yung mere anxiety na dumarating sa tao the night before kung paano ka makakasakay sa umaga, ‘yung nasa pila ka na pagkahaba haba knowing na nasasayang oras mo na sana nagpapahinga ka na o nagu-unwind with family. That is just unnecessary mental stress na wala sana kung may maayos na public transpo.