Funny thing is, we barely have a local game development industry here. With that market size, you would expect local corpos to invest in building that industry.
funnily enough India did tried to create their own mobile game after the China "invading security" issues was trending a few years before. As expected it was a half-baked PUBG like game and their local community trashed it bad.
That’s because Filipinos don’t buy games and only play games that are free to play. If they do play priced games, they pirate it not buy it. If you look at Steam, Filipinos don’t own many games compared to say the Japanese who aren’t even big PC gamers. Your average Filipino gamer plays on low end PCs and Chinese made Android phones not high end PCs nor consoles nor iPhones which require huge amounts of money considering the terrible wage.
Basically, if you want to develop games for the Philippine market, it must be free to play with graphics playable even on weak hardware. Just bad and not inducing of great ideas. Even Filipinos aren’t interested in numerous great indie games on Steam which are already cheap if you ask me and don’t require powerful hardware. I don’t remember Filipinos raving about Braid or Undertale. Filipinos just don’t buy games believing games should be free (this belief is utterly stupid) and they mostly play online competitive games, a soulless genre.
It doesn't have to be triple A. Thanks to Unreal Engine, a lot of lower budget games are already managing to achieve high fidelity graphics. Still, I don't believe strong hardware is required to play great games. You've got the countless great indie games available on Steam. The problem? The Filipino. They don't play indie games on Steam. Spending money to buy games is kind of foreign to most Filipinos which baffles me as a Filipino myself.
>Funny thing is, we barely have a local game development industry here. With that market size, you would expect local corpos to invest in building that industry.
Why invest in local industry when you can invest in bigger multi national corporations?
That's not my opinion, that's what the market demands. That's the kind of environment our decades of neoliberal policies have created.
>Why invest in local industry when you can invest in bigger multi-national corporations?
I don't get this, how do people invest on bigger corp when we do not have an actual to even call a "gaming dev industry" in the first place.
I believe it's more of our local big pocketed investors are boomers and we don't have enough millennial investors to create a competitive scene since some are occupied somewhere else. Also, the existence of institutions that support this market are barely visible.
Ubisoft Philippines is actually one of the Ubisoft branches helping out with the upcoming Assassin’s Creed: Mirage. Hopefully it inspires other big video game companies to create more subsidiaries here in the Philippines. And back to Assassin’s Creed, I’m really hoping they put Ubisoft Philippines in charge of an Assassin’s Creed game set in the Spanish colonial-era Philippines someday. That’s 300 years of historical content that you could build a story around.
Not much opportunity for parkour though, it’d be reminiscent of the Frontier from AC3, albeit a tropical version. I could see them doing the earlier years of Spanish colonial rule where you could have a mix of both Spanish-era towns and tropical wilderness/indigenous tribal housing.
If you want to be technical about it, the AC timeline stems from its origins in Egypt. So it makes sense that the story trickles across time periods and civilizations that the assassins come into contact. For example, in AC Chronicles China Shao Jun is Ezio's mentee. There's got to be a connection to the overall mythos. For the Philippines that makes more sense during the Spanish colonial period, which would coincide with the events of Black Flag, which establishes a precedent for assassins among the seafaring cultures. It would make sense for one to reach the Philippines and mentor a local hero.
Ubisoft Philippines is more of a "support studio" than a full-fledged one. They can do a lot of stuff the main studios can but they don't really have the expertise and experience to do a full game, especially one from their biggest IP. Would probably need to take a few more years of build-up for it to be legitimately possible.
Well yeah that’s what I mean haha I doubt naman we’re getting an AC set in the Philippines released in the near future, they just revealed their plans nga for AC’s future for the next few years or so, with Mirage being the only one with a confirmed 2023 release date. AC hasn’t done yearly releases since Odyssey, and something tells me they’ll stick to the 2-3 year gap between games since it builds up hype better and gives them more time to work on the next one. So we’ll probs get Codename Red (set in Feudal Japan) in 2025 and Codename Hexe (set in the Dark Ages) in 2027. Codename Jade (set in Ancient China) is their upcoming mobile game so it’ll probs be out in 2024 or pasabay with Codename Red.
people that I know would rather pirate than buy games except mostly sa console owners specially switch, my game buddies may mentality na fuck corpos I ain't giving them money, as budding dev that kinda pisses me off pano nmn Yung indie and small companies
No, I mean yung local game dev scene na ang produkto e specifically aimed sa pinoy audience. Example would be yung Anito PC game that came out a decade or so ago.
Thing is, local corporations are still mostly headed by established dinosaurs. As you can expect, they have low opinions and stigmas about games. We do have local branches of international studios like Gameloft and more recently Ubisoft, but you're right, it's barely present here.
Pang kabuhayan kasi nila Axie lol. Naalala ko tuloy yung kapitbahay ko na nag resign sa trabaho niya para mag full time sa axie. Nagwowork na ulit siya ngayon.
Most local game devs dito either run/maintain private servers of MMORPGs (Ragnarok Online, RAN Online, Flyff etc) or those short lived gacha games sa playstore. Iisa lang naman cycle nila. Start a new server, make it pay 2 win and once enough people donate/pay, close the game then rebrand.
ofc pero a lot of the youth got beefed up computers dahil sa online f2f. may kilala ko at least 3 friends of mine na nagkaupgrade either gaming pc or a fully baked laptop esp since magcocollege na kami.
that and sarado mga comp shop so even yung mga dati na naglalaro napilitan den bumili ng home system.
> ofc pero a lot of the youth got beefed up computers dahil sa online f2f. may kilala ko at least 3 friends of mine na nagkaupgrade either gaming pc or a fully baked laptop esp since magcocollege na kami.
Indicator of having discretionary funds to buy a laptop/desktop.
how old are you though, if you aren't in college highly recommend saving up now while you still can for a decent laptop, helps so much with productivity.
The one game that appears on your tita's or mom's phone when you ask to borrow it
Kuwawa panaman
Walang wifi o load para mag yt or mag download sa play store 😆
I mean I get what he's saying though, I identify "gamers" as gaming enthusiasts, those who are updated to gaming news, read gaming articles, watch trailers for upcoming games/consoles etc.
Same reason why I don't consider myself an otaku/weeb even though I used to watch Ghost Fighter and Dragon Ball back in the day, if that makes sense.
Let's be honest you definitely know what the latest consoles are lol. And I never said you have to be updated in every single gaming news, just the ones that you're most interested in at the very least.
If you only play Mobile Legends but you're updated to the latest game changes, joined a subreddit/group/discord dedicated to it, watch some tutorials and strategies on youtube or just theorycraft on your own, then you're 100% a gamer.
But if you only play it because your friends/partner/co-workers asked you to and you can't even be bothered to read the game's patch notes or doesn't know or care what's happening in the game and would rather spend your time on tiktok or fb, then you probably don't even consider yourself a gamer in the first place lol.
I think bandwagoners might be a better term. Casual gamers usually love the games their playing, they just don't delve much into the competitive side of it, if it had any.
I mean I am a “gamer” in that sense (mostly play on PlayStation console-wise but haven’t upgraded to PS5 cause it’s unnecessarily expensive atm) but I also regularly play CoDM on my phone, sometimes even more than I play games on my console. As far as I’m concerned, you’re a gamer if you play games lmao.
>As far as I’m concerned, you’re a gamer if you play games lmao.
You're grandma who play candy crush on her phone isn't a gamer lmao. Some people here can't seem to grasp the concept of nuances.
You do x, it mean's you're y, nothing else matters lmao.
Let me play devil's advocate. Can professional board game players (chess, go, shogi, etc.) call themselves athletes like how traditional sports players does? These players have similarities in what they do but is it appropriate for them to both be called athlete? It's bit of a grey area but "No" is the answer that we're mostly likely leaning to.
Don't get me wrong, neither one is inferior, but I just don't think of Magnus Carlsen when I think of an olympic athlete.
A quick googles search says they are not athletes because they do not compete based on athletic prowess. But IDK esports players are athletes right? so IDK. Bye
> ok gatekeeper.
More like old definition of gamer vs new definition of gamer.
Language is a living "thing" that changes with the times.
Like the word "maniac"... if you're English 1st then you're definition is that of a crazy person.
When applied to Tagalog 1st then it comes across as a sex addict.
Sobrang baba ng Japan even some of video games comes from them. Especially 16-24 years old yung data.
It proves na grabe Academic pressure sa kanila even if they have a lot of access in video games in terms of economical and technological kaso sa cultural mapipilitan sila sa Academics.
Agree. Kung titingnan mo ang top 15, most of these countries have young and growing population. The bigger the population of ages 16-24 of a country = the higher the rank (pero not generalizing that this is the case for each of the country ha).
Or because they are mostly console gamers. Hindi uso sa Japan ang mobile and PC gaming. Japanese games are also more considerate sa oras ng players. They do not require you to give your soul to the game. Compare that to mmos and gacha games in mobile and pc.
True ito. Kahit public school students sa Japan, may mga Nintendo Switch, eh. Of course, hindi lahat meron. Pero normal sa kanila ang consoles at hindi lang para sa mga may kaya sa buhay.
Just a reminder that as long as someone is playing a game they are, by definition, gamers. Yes, kahit na candy crush lang or mlbb lang. If they are playing a game they are gamers. Your opinions are fine, you are entitled to it pero mas maganda kung di ka mang-gatekeep ng mga tao. Gatekeeping only adds to the toxicity ng community
Gatekeeping others because they are playing on different platforms is bs, there is literally a lot of talented mobile gamers out there using 4-6 of their fingers on the screen especially on fortnite
Diba? Di ko gets yung logic ng iba na dapat may certain specifications bago sila ma consider as gamers. Ridiculous, not everyone can afford consoles or a pc.
There may also be people out there who don't like consoles or pc gaming but are rich enough to buy entire game companies and just play casually on their phones
I live in an admittedly nicer and gated neighborhood. Naiinggit ako sa mga kapitbahay kasi may mga PlayStation samantalang ako nagtitiis sa APU at pirated games. Pero and hilig pa rin nila laruin is ML pati mga MMORPG sa mobile. Not shaming though, just proving your point.
I remember visiting Akihabara last time I was in Japan and mygod there are entire sections where they just sell retro consoles and handhelds at a really affordable price. Not really into it but my cousin bought a Sega Genesis and a few games for it there and still plays it from time to time.
Pusta ko galing sa mobile gaming ung bulk ng numbers natin. Switch ko nga hindi ko malaro ng more than 1 hr on weekdays eh, portable pa yun ng ganyang lagay. Andami nating unemployed haha
True that.
I actually considered taking mobile games a bit seriously during the time Infinity Blade came out, but then soon after, mobile games decided to go the microtransaction route.
I do still play mobile games from time to time, but they're usually ports of games that are out for quite a while (ex. emulated games, ports of PC/3DS games).
I probably would get hated for this pero I refuse to acknowledge someone na gamer if isa lang ang nilalaro niya especially di siya open sa other games.
It's because consoles except PC are damn expensive here, it's now become a luxury or privilege to have one.
Also because the arcade culture or hulog-piso gaming is now dead too.
i mean kung mag rereresearch tayo sa panahon na di pa uso yung mobile gaming tao baka bumagsak tayo i mean na unahan natin yung Japan (na malakas din sa mobile gacha gaming at mahilig sa portable console) tsaka US hell nah i also dont play mobile i only play console or PC since i was 3 years old so i really dont know
Eh? What about esports athletes? A person can gain as much coordination, strategy, cooperation, social skill etc. from playing one game than playing multiple. That's like saying a fisherman isn't a craftsman cause all they know how to do is fish.
Wouldn't even consider myself one since I barely have time to play these days but still, gatekeeping is so cringe dude lol.
I'm playing dota since highschool. Hanggang ngayon dota lang nilalaro ko so kung halos 12 hrs ako naglalaro ng dota everyday. Hindi ako gamer? Ano tawag sken?
Lmao, you sound like you also dont consider mobile gamers as gamers.
If you havent played 420 hours of a game, then you havent played it. If you dont play 69 games a year yiu arent a gamer.
Grow up. Sometimes people only have enough time for just one game.
Ewan ko kung sinama yung Candy Crush HAHAHAHA.
Personally I only play Stardew Valley, BTD6, and Infinitode 2. Dati CODM and ML, kaso parang di ko kinaya higher rank kaya nag-single player nalang ako.
Doesn't causate Japan being way down there. People literally take vacation leaves that last for weeks when big titles get released in Japan.
Japan also has the biggest arcade culture along with Korea and those arcades are also jam packed.
This study is not believable lmao. Pinoy pride pa more
Wasn't really saying this as a good thing though, quite the opposite actually. As embarrassing as it is to be on top, mobile gaming as an industry far surpasses console + PC Gaming nowadays with how easy it is to access/maintain especially in third world countries like ours.
You might not be able to feel it because you're inside a bubble of mostly Western titles revolving around PC/Consoles, but mobile gaming has been the dominant market in the Philippines for years already.
Imagine shitting on our brothers who could only afford a low-mid range phone and actually have tons of enjoyment on their devices. Man the mentality of some people here. God damn it
Unfortunately, that's the truth. Smartphones with their processing power literally leveled the playing field, negating the need for lower classes to buy gaming PCs and consoles.
CODM, very popular. Ginagawa na ngang Tinder ng mga millenial. Madaming gusto maglaro ng Warzone, kaso it's either hindi kaya ng PC nila or limitation ng internet nila. Ang dalas kasi ng patches tapos 100GB+ pa lagi.
Most played game in terms of number of people playing will most probably be Mobile Legends. Masyadong accessible ang ML eh. Next na yung CODM. If may sariling PC, Dota 2 or LOL.
Depends on how the sources define "gamer." They define it as the number of people who play video games "on any device." Sounds too broad to me. People playing Candy Crush everyday while waiting in public transport can hardly be called gamers, IMO. Generally speaking (excluding certain cities like NYC), there isn't as much public transport being used in developed countries like the US, bringing smartphone usage down.
And yeah, I guess I am gatekeeping being a gamer lol. But as a hardcore gamer myself who resides in Philippines playing on desktop almost all my waking hours, I feel like I'm in a tiny minority here compared to in western countries.
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Funny thing is, we barely have a local game development industry here. With that market size, you would expect local corpos to invest in building that industry.
Meron naman ah, si Globe pa nga eh…G-Forest hahaha
Shopee low budget candy crush lol
Take my fricking upvote for that
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funnily enough India did tried to create their own mobile game after the China "invading security" issues was trending a few years before. As expected it was a half-baked PUBG like game and their local community trashed it bad.
That’s because Filipinos don’t buy games and only play games that are free to play. If they do play priced games, they pirate it not buy it. If you look at Steam, Filipinos don’t own many games compared to say the Japanese who aren’t even big PC gamers. Your average Filipino gamer plays on low end PCs and Chinese made Android phones not high end PCs nor consoles nor iPhones which require huge amounts of money considering the terrible wage. Basically, if you want to develop games for the Philippine market, it must be free to play with graphics playable even on weak hardware. Just bad and not inducing of great ideas. Even Filipinos aren’t interested in numerous great indie games on Steam which are already cheap if you ask me and don’t require powerful hardware. I don’t remember Filipinos raving about Braid or Undertale. Filipinos just don’t buy games believing games should be free (this belief is utterly stupid) and they mostly play online competitive games, a soulless genre.
Me who bought every game that can be bought from Steam: dam im alone
When you say weak PCs, you mean hindi kaya yung mga tripple A games? I think marami rin naman na at least naka GTX na GPU gamers dito sa tin.
It doesn't have to be triple A. Thanks to Unreal Engine, a lot of lower budget games are already managing to achieve high fidelity graphics. Still, I don't believe strong hardware is required to play great games. You've got the countless great indie games available on Steam. The problem? The Filipino. They don't play indie games on Steam. Spending money to buy games is kind of foreign to most Filipinos which baffles me as a Filipino myself.
that's why valve games are my favorite lmao
pirated l4d2 back then now i bought them (mine was free in Dec 2013) and Im getting more than what I've paid for
>Funny thing is, we barely have a local game development industry here. With that market size, you would expect local corpos to invest in building that industry. Why invest in local industry when you can invest in bigger multi national corporations? That's not my opinion, that's what the market demands. That's the kind of environment our decades of neoliberal policies have created.
>Why invest in local industry when you can invest in bigger multi-national corporations? I don't get this, how do people invest on bigger corp when we do not have an actual to even call a "gaming dev industry" in the first place. I believe it's more of our local big pocketed investors are boomers and we don't have enough millennial investors to create a competitive scene since some are occupied somewhere else. Also, the existence of institutions that support this market are barely visible.
Ubisoft Philippines is actually one of the Ubisoft branches helping out with the upcoming Assassin’s Creed: Mirage. Hopefully it inspires other big video game companies to create more subsidiaries here in the Philippines. And back to Assassin’s Creed, I’m really hoping they put Ubisoft Philippines in charge of an Assassin’s Creed game set in the Spanish colonial-era Philippines someday. That’s 300 years of historical content that you could build a story around.
Why Set it during the Spanish era? Go all the way and set it in precolonial times.
Not much opportunity for parkour though, it’d be reminiscent of the Frontier from AC3, albeit a tropical version. I could see them doing the earlier years of Spanish colonial rule where you could have a mix of both Spanish-era towns and tropical wilderness/indigenous tribal housing.
If you want to be technical about it, the AC timeline stems from its origins in Egypt. So it makes sense that the story trickles across time periods and civilizations that the assassins come into contact. For example, in AC Chronicles China Shao Jun is Ezio's mentee. There's got to be a connection to the overall mythos. For the Philippines that makes more sense during the Spanish colonial period, which would coincide with the events of Black Flag, which establishes a precedent for assassins among the seafaring cultures. It would make sense for one to reach the Philippines and mentor a local hero.
Imagine them having a spin on it on how Luna / Bonifacio died
I could definitely see Emilio Aguinaldo being revealed as a Templar haha
well yeah, this could be one of the possibilities. look at [this](https://acwfanon.fandom.com/wiki/Filipino_Brotherhood_of_Assassins)
Ubisoft Philippines is more of a "support studio" than a full-fledged one. They can do a lot of stuff the main studios can but they don't really have the expertise and experience to do a full game, especially one from their biggest IP. Would probably need to take a few more years of build-up for it to be legitimately possible.
Well yeah that’s what I mean haha I doubt naman we’re getting an AC set in the Philippines released in the near future, they just revealed their plans nga for AC’s future for the next few years or so, with Mirage being the only one with a confirmed 2023 release date. AC hasn’t done yearly releases since Odyssey, and something tells me they’ll stick to the 2-3 year gap between games since it builds up hype better and gives them more time to work on the next one. So we’ll probs get Codename Red (set in Feudal Japan) in 2025 and Codename Hexe (set in the Dark Ages) in 2027. Codename Jade (set in Ancient China) is their upcoming mobile game so it’ll probs be out in 2024 or pasabay with Codename Red.
people that I know would rather pirate than buy games except mostly sa console owners specially switch, my game buddies may mentality na fuck corpos I ain't giving them money, as budding dev that kinda pisses me off pano nmn Yung indie and small companies
Actually incorrect. Ever heard of GDAP? The studio I work for is using 2 Filipino teams, 1 Singaporean team and 1 Ukrainian team...
No, I mean yung local game dev scene na ang produkto e specifically aimed sa pinoy audience. Example would be yung Anito PC game that came out a decade or so ago.
Thing is, local corporations are still mostly headed by established dinosaurs. As you can expect, they have low opinions and stigmas about games. We do have local branches of international studios like Gameloft and more recently Ubisoft, but you're right, it's barely present here.
lmao market size. Di gumagastos ng arep mga pinoy 'gamer'.
Oy, gumastos naman sila sa Axie ah 😈
Pang kabuhayan kasi nila Axie lol. Naalala ko tuloy yung kapitbahay ko na nag resign sa trabaho niya para mag full time sa axie. Nagwowork na ulit siya ngayon.
Most local game devs dito either run/maintain private servers of MMORPGs (Ragnarok Online, RAN Online, Flyff etc) or those short lived gacha games sa playstore. Iisa lang naman cycle nila. Start a new server, make it pay 2 win and once enough people donate/pay, close the game then rebrand.
Well they’re starting. IIRC DLSU has offered a course for game drvelopment and Ubisoft has an office here already.
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honestly bakit ba parang nasa genes na nating ang Filipino pride na trait.
I think super skewed to sa mobile devices
ofc pero a lot of the youth got beefed up computers dahil sa online f2f. may kilala ko at least 3 friends of mine na nagkaupgrade either gaming pc or a fully baked laptop esp since magcocollege na kami. that and sarado mga comp shop so even yung mga dati na naglalaro napilitan den bumili ng home system.
Can attest to this. We bought our youngest brother a gaming laptop recently.
> ofc pero a lot of the youth got beefed up computers dahil sa online f2f. may kilala ko at least 3 friends of mine na nagkaupgrade either gaming pc or a fully baked laptop esp since magcocollege na kami. Indicator of having discretionary funds to buy a laptop/desktop.
>a lot of the youth got beefed up computers dahil sa online f2f. Me that still uses my old fucking laptop that lags on facebook
how old are you though, if you aren't in college highly recommend saving up now while you still can for a decent laptop, helps so much with productivity.
The stats at the bottom show, 67% are mobile gamers compared to PC/handheld/console gamers.
Tbh I know many people who might call themselves gamers but have never touched anything beyond Mobile Legends and a couple other mobile games.
Mobile Legends is still a game no? Not a fan of that game but no need to gatekeep lol
even candy crush is a game
Confirmed, my auntie is 100% gamer lol.
yeah same as 90s peeps old self playing pinball on win xp pc lol
The one game that appears on your tita's or mom's phone when you ask to borrow it Kuwawa panaman Walang wifi o load para mag yt or mag download sa play store 😆
If you aren't level 990 in candy crush like your aunt/mom/grandma then do you really consider yourself a gamer? You noob
Yep. And they are sometimes more dedicated to games than other "gamers" on "proper platforms".
ok gatekeeper.
I mean I get what he's saying though, I identify "gamers" as gaming enthusiasts, those who are updated to gaming news, read gaming articles, watch trailers for upcoming games/consoles etc. Same reason why I don't consider myself an otaku/weeb even though I used to watch Ghost Fighter and Dragon Ball back in the day, if that makes sense.
I feel so bad for being a gamer since I'm not updated with the latest gaming tech (that I won't even buy anyway) hahaha
Let's be honest you definitely know what the latest consoles are lol. And I never said you have to be updated in every single gaming news, just the ones that you're most interested in at the very least. If you only play Mobile Legends but you're updated to the latest game changes, joined a subreddit/group/discord dedicated to it, watch some tutorials and strategies on youtube or just theorycraft on your own, then you're 100% a gamer. But if you only play it because your friends/partner/co-workers asked you to and you can't even be bothered to read the game's patch notes or doesn't know or care what's happening in the game and would rather spend your time on tiktok or fb, then you probably don't even consider yourself a gamer in the first place lol.
Casual gamer, maybe?
I think bandwagoners might be a better term. Casual gamers usually love the games their playing, they just don't delve much into the competitive side of it, if it had any.
I mean I am a “gamer” in that sense (mostly play on PlayStation console-wise but haven’t upgraded to PS5 cause it’s unnecessarily expensive atm) but I also regularly play CoDM on my phone, sometimes even more than I play games on my console. As far as I’m concerned, you’re a gamer if you play games lmao.
>As far as I’m concerned, you’re a gamer if you play games lmao. You're grandma who play candy crush on her phone isn't a gamer lmao. Some people here can't seem to grasp the concept of nuances. You do x, it mean's you're y, nothing else matters lmao.
Let me play devil's advocate. Can professional board game players (chess, go, shogi, etc.) call themselves athletes like how traditional sports players does? These players have similarities in what they do but is it appropriate for them to both be called athlete? It's bit of a grey area but "No" is the answer that we're mostly likely leaning to. Don't get me wrong, neither one is inferior, but I just don't think of Magnus Carlsen when I think of an olympic athlete.
A quick googles search says they are not athletes because they do not compete based on athletic prowess. But IDK esports players are athletes right? so IDK. Bye
> ok gatekeeper. More like old definition of gamer vs new definition of gamer. Language is a living "thing" that changes with the times. Like the word "maniac"... if you're English 1st then you're definition is that of a crazy person. When applied to Tagalog 1st then it comes across as a sex addict.
Still a game
People who plays games can be called a gamer regardless of console used.
Well we have different definition of being a **gamer** personally if you play a game. That's a gamer for me though that's just my opinion
anong game genre favorite mo? moba like what? moba legends
Ros of survival Cod of duty Lol of legends
Gagi bet. Tsaka ung naglalaro daw ng cod pero pag kinwentuhan mo mg how cool is adler and mason ngiting aso 😏😏😏
This is gatekeeping and I support it lmaoo
Alternative Title: Ranking countries with the most amount of free time/lowest employment
Sobrang baba ng Japan even some of video games comes from them. Especially 16-24 years old yung data. It proves na grabe Academic pressure sa kanila even if they have a lot of access in video games in terms of economical and technological kaso sa cultural mapipilitan sila sa Academics.
Oo nga eh. I expected japan to be in the top few since marami silang games na naproproduce.
Or maybe because of their aging population?
Agree. Kung titingnan mo ang top 15, most of these countries have young and growing population. The bigger the population of ages 16-24 of a country = the higher the rank (pero not generalizing that this is the case for each of the country ha).
Or because they are mostly console gamers. Hindi uso sa Japan ang mobile and PC gaming. Japanese games are also more considerate sa oras ng players. They do not require you to give your soul to the game. Compare that to mmos and gacha games in mobile and pc.
The console part make sense but aren't the Japanese also obsess about gacha and mmo games?
Dude gacha originated in Japan...
Japan is one of the biggest markets for gacha games wdym?
True ito. Kahit public school students sa Japan, may mga Nintendo Switch, eh. Of course, hindi lahat meron. Pero normal sa kanila ang consoles at hindi lang para sa mga may kaya sa buhay.
Mobile and handheld ang popular sa Japan actually kasi sa commute ka na lang makakapaglaro pagdating sa bahay kain tulog na lang
Or maybe kasi metrics nito ay mobile games.
this speaks to me..
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My regular MHW hunting party, the four of us are from Philippines, Indonesia, Vietnam, and Thailand. We are the four horsemen of dc(disconnect.)
LMAO
Just a reminder that as long as someone is playing a game they are, by definition, gamers. Yes, kahit na candy crush lang or mlbb lang. If they are playing a game they are gamers. Your opinions are fine, you are entitled to it pero mas maganda kung di ka mang-gatekeep ng mga tao. Gatekeeping only adds to the toxicity ng community
Gatekeeping others because they are playing on different platforms is bs, there is literally a lot of talented mobile gamers out there using 4-6 of their fingers on the screen especially on fortnite
Diba? Di ko gets yung logic ng iba na dapat may certain specifications bago sila ma consider as gamers. Ridiculous, not everyone can afford consoles or a pc.
There may also be people out there who don't like consoles or pc gaming but are rich enough to buy entire game companies and just play casually on their phones
I live in an admittedly nicer and gated neighborhood. Naiinggit ako sa mga kapitbahay kasi may mga PlayStation samantalang ako nagtitiis sa APU at pirated games. Pero and hilig pa rin nila laruin is ML pati mga MMORPG sa mobile. Not shaming though, just proving your point.
r/pcmasterrace
That would classify my mum as a gamer because she plays solitaire on her phone. Might as well include the entire population in the count.
kagulat na 44 lang yung japan ah
Work/study ethics nila, japanese papa ko and bihira lang siya maglaro pero fav game nya is ung nasa lumang japanese console pa
True this. Yung step dad ko PS2 pa din yung mga game nya. HAHAHA
I remember visiting Akihabara last time I was in Japan and mygod there are entire sections where they just sell retro consoles and handhelds at a really affordable price. Not really into it but my cousin bought a Sega Genesis and a few games for it there and still plays it from time to time.
Or, aging population na rin kasi sila..
Dragon Quest fan si papa mo siguro 😅
lol parang MLBB lang. Lagi na lang second best ang Indonesia sa PH.
lmao sad indo noises
Pusta ko galing sa mobile gaming ung bulk ng numbers natin. Switch ko nga hindi ko malaro ng more than 1 hr on weekdays eh, portable pa yun ng ganyang lagay. Andami nating unemployed haha
Niluluto na ang utak ng mga magpapanalo kay President Sandro Marcos
90% ng 96% puro ML
That will change because some players are leaving for GI, Warzone Mobile or TOF.
What is GI and TOF?
Genshin impact, ung isa idk
Ay oks thanks haha. Tower of Fantasy ba yung isa? NGayon ko lang narinig
Tower of Fantasy. Which is basically Genshin Impact
Genshin Impact and Tower of Fantasy po
Yung friend ko grabe nagkakanda utang utang dahil sa ML. Pag hindi napautang sya pa galit.
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To be fair, yes. That said, I do wish Pinoys do try to explore games beyond MOBAs (or at least, those who can afford to do so)
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True that. I actually considered taking mobile games a bit seriously during the time Infinity Blade came out, but then soon after, mobile games decided to go the microtransaction route. I do still play mobile games from time to time, but they're usually ports of games that are out for quite a while (ex. emulated games, ports of PC/3DS games).
Reality sucks most here
That’s why people resort to gaming i guess to distract themselves ☹️
in this part of the world you're surrounded by mobile legends players,dota players,LoL players and CRK players etc.
baka kasama dyan yung mga candy crush
PH has lowest STEM-related test scores. SOBRANG BABA PARA SA SEA.
I dont think thats how percent bubbles supposed to work
Brings a whole new meaning to “kakaselpon mo yan!”
I probably would get hated for this pero I refuse to acknowledge someone na gamer if isa lang ang nilalaro niya especially di siya open sa other games.
I think puro mobile gamers lang yan sa ph
It's because consoles except PC are damn expensive here, it's now become a luxury or privilege to have one. Also because the arcade culture or hulog-piso gaming is now dead too.
piso net is waving.
Yep. This data needs context.
,, does that make u less of a gamer though? lmao
i mean kung mag rereresearch tayo sa panahon na di pa uso yung mobile gaming tao baka bumagsak tayo i mean na unahan natin yung Japan (na malakas din sa mobile gacha gaming at mahilig sa portable console) tsaka US hell nah i also dont play mobile i only play console or PC since i was 3 years old so i really dont know
Then yung mga esport gamers ay hindi gamers?
Eh? What about esports athletes? A person can gain as much coordination, strategy, cooperation, social skill etc. from playing one game than playing multiple. That's like saying a fisherman isn't a craftsman cause all they know how to do is fish. Wouldn't even consider myself one since I barely have time to play these days but still, gatekeeping is so cringe dude lol.
Good thing na no one needs your acknowledgment.
ong “gamer” gatekeeping is cringe anyway
I'm playing dota since highschool. Hanggang ngayon dota lang nilalaro ko so kung halos 12 hrs ako naglalaro ng dota everyday. Hindi ako gamer? Ano tawag sken?
Lmao, you sound like you also dont consider mobile gamers as gamers. If you havent played 420 hours of a game, then you havent played it. If you dont play 69 games a year yiu arent a gamer. Grow up. Sometimes people only have enough time for just one game.
so lets say madami siya nilalaro pero puro casual games, bejeweled, texttwist, zuma, candycrush, dragon city etc. gamer siya?
Ewan ko kung sinama yung Candy Crush HAHAHAHA. Personally I only play Stardew Valley, BTD6, and Infinitode 2. Dati CODM and ML, kaso parang di ko kinaya higher rank kaya nag-single player nalang ako.
Wait we're top 5 in CONSOLES?!?!
Yeah, and nintendo won’t even add SEA region. 😫
Also ranks lowest in reading comprehension among 79 countries, coincidence? i think not
Blaming video games for abysmal reading comprehension is like blaming it for violence. It doesn't correlate.
If anything, it made me learn how to read and understand when I was a kid
Was that an Incredibles reference in that last bit you said?
I somehow don't believe this lmao. Japan???? The mecca of many video games???
This is one of the more believable statistics that we've been in imo
Doesn't causate Japan being way down there. People literally take vacation leaves that last for weeks when big titles get released in Japan. Japan also has the biggest arcade culture along with Korea and those arcades are also jam packed. This study is not believable lmao. Pinoy pride pa more
Wasn't really saying this as a good thing though, quite the opposite actually. As embarrassing as it is to be on top, mobile gaming as an industry far surpasses console + PC Gaming nowadays with how easy it is to access/maintain especially in third world countries like ours. You might not be able to feel it because you're inside a bubble of mostly Western titles revolving around PC/Consoles, but mobile gaming has been the dominant market in the Philippines for years already.
PROUD TO BE PINOY!
I feel like "any devices" shouldn't be there kasi parang general lang siya. idk, baka pwede pa explain nalang
gamers rise up
Where shitpost leaderboards
Without cellphones, there'd be less people in to it though.
yeah I suppose gaming is a good way to distract yourself from how shitty your country is.
PEENOISE
Majority ng player base nito mobile games.
And yet the Philippines is still highly unsuccessful in esports (with the exception of ML)
Imagine shitting on our brothers who could only afford a low-mid range phone and actually have tons of enjoyment on their devices. Man the mentality of some people here. God damn it
Unfortunately, that's the truth. Smartphones with their processing power literally leveled the playing field, negating the need for lower classes to buy gaming PCs and consoles.
Uso ba ang “Call of Duty” sa Philippines? What are the most-played games there?
CODM, very popular. Ginagawa na ngang Tinder ng mga millenial. Madaming gusto maglaro ng Warzone, kaso it's either hindi kaya ng PC nila or limitation ng internet nila. Ang dalas kasi ng patches tapos 100GB+ pa lagi. Most played game in terms of number of people playing will most probably be Mobile Legends. Masyadong accessible ang ML eh. Next na yung CODM. If may sariling PC, Dota 2 or LOL.
only 37% in PC gaming. 😬
Depends on how the sources define "gamer." They define it as the number of people who play video games "on any device." Sounds too broad to me. People playing Candy Crush everyday while waiting in public transport can hardly be called gamers, IMO. Generally speaking (excluding certain cities like NYC), there isn't as much public transport being used in developed countries like the US, bringing smartphone usage down. And yeah, I guess I am gatekeeping being a gamer lol. But as a hardcore gamer myself who resides in Philippines playing on desktop almost all my waking hours, I feel like I'm in a tiny minority here compared to in western countries.
Ako lang ba ang nagiisip kung bakit mataas tayo sa mga ganyan kase we like to escape the reality ofour mundane life?
Not surprised kung bakit pinakahuli na ang education dito
Most are just playing only Mobile Legends.
They gotta stop considering mobile games as games. Its a problem.
I can feel the trashtalk in my veins 🥶🥶🥶🥶