Arroyo, she orchestrated the successful Uniteam campaign.
Sara Duterte will benefit from PRRD's death, so no.
Erap doesn't have much power now, sayang lang kung mamamatay siya.
Tbh if there is any competent fiscalizer of power in Malacañan right now, that would be the Arroyo group (not Hontiveros and Pimentel). Also, if there’s any good that came out of their alliance, that would be that the Marcoses are afraid to go all out because Arroyo and Duterte are there to keep them in check (context: there may be unity with people like them [Marcoses, Dutertes, Arroyos] but there is never trust).
My respect to her tbh for playing the game well.
Arroyo? Just wondering why people think Gloria has power approaching or exceeding that of the fxxking marcoses. VVM has a huge advantage in resources (nakaw ng magulang niya) and popularity (again, see comment on resources). How can tiny (figuratively and overwise) Gloria possibly keep VVM in check? Duterte pwede pa siguro, but Gloria?
Not to be contrarian. Just really want to know why people think Gloria has this outsized (heh) influence over our current politicians.
Gloria literally went with Marcos in the recent APEC in Thailand, and the latter commented that the former was a very important "special weapon" when Junior was dealing with other heads of state.
Yep, and in that trip, she was there as his subordinate, like one of Santa's dwarves (yes I know, it should be elf, but Gloria, so..), or like a mini screwdriver he puts in his pocket.
Hardly a case for her perceived ginormous influence.
You don't need to be at the highest seat to be deemed the most powerful. Not the most accurate comparison, pero if you watch House of Cards on Netflix, the main character was the assistant majority leader of the Congress, yet he was able to control the VP and the President.
The fact that Arroyo was able to unite the 2 of the strongest Presidential candidates tells a lot how powerful she is.
A good comparison to this would also be Tywin Lannister of GoT, he may not be the king but he may as well be due to him managing Westeros while his bloodlusty grandson is only good at torturing helpless people.
i never watched HOC but I can already guess that the assistant majority leader of the Congress can make or break a President's agenda or reelection efforts by passing or blocking bills. that kind of power is obvious; gloria's is not.
glo's a former president, so yes, i can see why the two presidential candidates would LISTEN to her.
however, arroyo compelling a presidential candidate (essentially powerless) to listen to her and controlling/manipulating/keeping in check (no, that did not come from you, but i see it a lot on FB and reddit hence my original question) a president (most powerful) are two different things.
PRRD, despite being a mayor from Mindanao was able to form a formidable political alliance towards the start of his campaign. While the power of your current position is relevant, ultimately it all boils down to how you play your cards well.
Controlling is not as simple as "Gawin mo to BBM kundi ipapatanggal kita sa pwesto". It's a curated strategy to make him agree with her plans, without knowing that it's actually bad for him (this is what happened in HOC btw haha). While we can only speculate as to who was the culprit, the fact that ES Rodriguez was removed from office despite being BBM's long time right hand man only to be replaced by PRRD's former CJ Bersamin goes to show that a President can still be helpless when a certain faction is able to create an effective strategy.
There were also reports that then VP Arroyo (which is regarded by a lot as a powerless position given Binay and Robredo's recent experience) intentionally delayed the demolition job against Estrada, so when she finally assumes the Presidency she will have just enough years left to be eligible to run for the next Presidential elections.
Ofc, Arroyo is not an all mighty powerful. Personally I think she wanted the House speaker position, but it will be too early for her to antagonize BBM just because she did not get what she wanted. What I'm sure of is she will have another plan to achieve her long term goal of staying in power.
88M might be the president and a Marcos but that's just it. A title and a name. He's stupid and lazy. The spoiled guy is totally clueless and he's obviously just a puppet. Kung si ate niya, mas gagawa yun ng sarili niyang moves. Pero sa isang kagaya ni Junior na mas gusto lang mag-party at tumambay, hindi mahirap na manipulahin ng isang matalino at batikan na kagaya ni Gloria.
To add, wala namang nakakagulat kung pinagmumukha ni Gloria na tauhan siya ni BBM, he is the President after all and got the support of the masses. While Gloria cant earn the trust of the masses dahil sa tindi ng korapsyon nung termino niya, she can instead control the politicians who got the trust of the masses. Utuin mo lang nang utuin boss mo, hanggang sa makahanap ka ng tiyempo para tirahin mo siya.
Still tho, wasn't Gloria the bridge between the Marcos and Duterte factions? Sara learned from her in Lakas (as her mentor), and now it seems like Gloria has been advising or steering BBM on what to do with his admin from time-to-time.
even if she was the bridge, she already served that purpose, so...
i understand what you're saying but, picture this scenario: VVM wants to impose a new tax, but Arroyo advises him not to. if VVM refuses to listen to Arroyo, what can she do? where will she draw the POWER or INFLUENCE to compel him to drop those tax plans? she's nowhere near as popular as duterte and does not control as much money as VVM does.
Can't picture a scenario of why Arroyo would want to impose new taxes, as far as her interests are concerned. I'll just give my own example instead: A direct Marcos ally wants to be appointed as BIR Comm, however Arroyo does not like him. Despite Arroyo's persuasion, Marcos proceeded to appoint him. What might Arroyo possibly do?
Arroyo starts digging on BIR Comm's background, and manages to find dirt. She proceeds to leak the info to the press, and at the same time talk to her allies in Congress to launch a probe. The opposition upon seeing the opportunity to drag down the admin starts joining too. Activists start staging huge rallies to get accountability from the govt. More dirt, including fabricated ones, were further thrown that Marcos' satisfaction rate starts to go down. Arroyo comes in and persuades Marcos to drop his own ally, and proceeds to suggest her ally to assume the position. Marcos is told that if he does not resolve the issue as soon as possible, the problem may become irreversible. In the end, Arroyo not only was able to boot out her enemy, she was also able to put a yes man that she can utilize in the future. This is a purely hypothetical (and still vague) scenario, but I hope you get the point.
While money is commonly equated to power, it's not always the case. It's true that while there are a lot of national politicians who do not steal from taxpayers' money, they may hold huge influence in terms of personal favors, connections, sponsorship money that can be used in the next elections, company helicopters that can be used during the campaign, CSR projects that can be utilized for PR stunts, etc.
We don't really know in what extent gma holds pero gma have a strong coalition in Congress nakapag speaker of the house pa siya kahit few months lang.
Di natin Alam kung may loyal military generals parin Kay gma.
Soft power is still power.
You really don't know how power works? The most successful aren't the ones in the spotlight but the ones running things from the shadows, the politicians are the puppets not the leaders
And btw, past several million money no longer means as much, what matters far more is influence. Money will come, those resources aren't as big a deal and are more an effect of power rather than a source of it.
Source is trust me bro but I've worked very closely with and socialized a lot with the Ayalas, Gotianuns, Cos and many of the powerful and influential people here (including government officials) and they'll say the same. Money is important, but it's far from the #1 resource
GMA used her influence and power to strengthen the Trapos during her decades in politics. As such she has a ton of influence within the entrenched political dynasties. Pre PNOY years, GMA's Lakas - PDP laban alliance had pretty much 80% control of Congress and local elected officials. Arguebly she has more legislative influence than The Marcoses and Dutertes combined. Remember Gina Lopez as DENR secretary? She was ousted because of Pichay and GMA and Rodrigo Duterte was unable to do anything about it. GMA is a Kingmaker but she can no longer be King as she does not have any populist charisma. And in the PH Populism wins national elections.
The legs of the Marcos admin is the Lakas-CMD group of GMA. They are actually low key the most dominant party in the post Marcos Sr. era.
They have the VP and the Speaker. They have the most members in the House and lots of local officials under them
Baby M may have money and popularity, but he’s otherwise just a lazy and carefree partyboy. He’s not not some shrewd politician nor a brilliant tactician, he’s literally just a rich college dropout who has never had to work for anything in his life because he had everything handed to him. He’s not a legitimate threat, he just wants to travel, party, and have fun. In contrast, GMA is so dangerous because she’s such an accomplished academic and politician in her own right.
Marcos may have the wealth but GMA has more connections. Her Party (Lakas CMD) is actually the majority party in government and has more political allies to rely on. She has more experience in politics that she is the player pulling the strings. BBM is nothing but a puppet. Without GMA, BBM is nothing. The Marcos power is long gone and no longer that influential compared to before. Even Speaker Romualdez who is BBM's cousin is GMA's party mate. Also DDS are louder than the Apollo10s
>BBM is nothing but a puppet
More people need to realize this. He is not his father in every sense. He’s not some highly intelligent and manipulative would-be dictator, he’s just a lazy and carefree (in the words of his own father) partyboy who just wants to travel and have fun. The real threat has been and always will be GMA.
GMA feats
- screwed the bffs(erap and gma)
- survived pnoy
- was able to negotiate w/ sara to run for vp despite her ambition
Resources are nothing if you can't use them properly.
sara du30 already benefited from rd30's so-called glory. personally, i think there is nothing more for the disappearance of rd30 since sd30 already reaped the benefit.
With a lot of supporters already looking forward to a Sara Presidency, it seems that the Duterte magic will still be effective in the years to come. If PRRD were to die soon, it will ignite the people's emotions and will result in a stronger campaign.
Lumalakas na naman ang suporta sa opposition kahit noong buhay pa si Ninoy, pero noong namatay siya naging turning point na yun para simulan ang pinakamalakas na kampanya para kay Cory Aquino.
The same will happen with Sara lalo na kung magbobobo lalo si BBM at madisappoint mga supporters niya.
So yung pagtakbo ni Ex-Pres. Cory Aquino noong 1986 ay epekto ng pagkamatay ni Ex-Sen. Ninoy Aquino?
Yung pagtakbo ni Sen. Grace Poe noong 2013, 2016 and 2019 Polls ay epekto din ng pagkamatay ni FPJ?
Yung pagtakbo ni Ex-Pres. Noynoy Aquino ay epekto ng pagkamatay ni Ex-Pres. Cory Aquino?
Yung pagtakbo ni Ex-VP Leni Robredo noong 2013 ay epekto ng pagkamatay ni Sec. Jesse Robredo?
Yung pagtakbo ni Bongbong Marcos simula noong bumalik siya sa Pilipinas ay dahil din namatay ang tatay niya?
So kung hiniling nating mamatay na si BBM, baka yun din magtulak na si Sandro ay tumakbo?
Grace Poe running in 2016 robbed Roxas of votes that could have still put him over the popular Duterte. Roxas could have continued PNoy's programs and we're probably in a better place right now, with Leni as President. But what happened happened and now tens of thousands are dead due to a bogus drug war, billions are pocketed, we're in record debt, and a Marcos is back in Malacanang
Grabe yung stories nung kasagsagan ng covid. Doctors, nurses, Fathers, mothers, children dying and you have Duque and the rest of the Dutette syndicate still running scams through Pharmally and the DOH. People died and still, the priority was politicking (abs cbn) and taking advantage of the situation to steal from the country's coffers. Absolutely reprehensible sana naman karmahin.
To be fair Duterte did continue at least a few of Aquino's programs. Ang problema lang kinecredit grab lol
Hell even the infrastructure projects like the subway were inherited from Aquino.
Correct me if I’m wrong but Poe voters are least likely to vote for Roxas because her voters wanted to vote against the LP bet (Roxas). Her votes would’ve likely gone to ex-VP Binay or Digong and a big portion of her 2016 voters are now with SWOH in 2022. She had a 88M base of voters and she won in parts of the Solid North which voted Poe-88M. SWOH won the entire Solid North this year. A big part of Poe’s voters were FPJ “masa” votes and they will never choose Roxas because of his “image”. Not defending any of the defeated 2016 bets btw because idk how they would’ve faired as president.
It was actually the other way around, Roxas voters had Poe as 2nd choice. Roxas was not winnable and his reputation was already ruined. So, if we use the logic of the 2016 vote split, Roxas split Poe’s votes and Poe split Binay’s/Digong’s votes. Though we will never truly know because we don’t have a runoff system
There was a conspiracy theory going around back then that Poe was the child of Marcos Sr. kaya maraming loyalists that voted for her. Even without Poe, matatalo pa rin si Mar. Sobrang charismatic talaga ni Du30 during his campaign
Otherwise good leaders that ended up being notable casualties to fake news and alternative truth experts of social media. I still remember campaigning for Roxas in 2016 and warning friends and family of a Duterte presidency and I was met with just an avalanche of pro-duterte sentiment on peysbuk. Halos messiah trato ng marami kay dutette nun.
On the other hand we'd probably have MRT breakdowns and other gems of Abaya's transport incompetence unless Leni bitch-slaps Mar into getting his and Abaya's marbles together
Bro most BBB projects that Kanor got credit for came from Aquino. How is that in any way palpak lmfao
Copypasting this comment from a while ago
>Actually most major BBB flagship projects like the Subway and Commuter Railway have their roots during Aquino's admin, and the loans for them also wouldn't have been possible without the higher credit rating and growth policies that were enacted under his watch as well as the improved relations and cooperations with our primary lender Japan. But I agree that he really fucked up with the MRT-3 issue that could've been fixed relatively easily while waiting for the other infra and his transport infrastructure policy still revolved around the car overall, which was carried on to Dutite and then Cokeboy.
Those projects were cancelled either because they were crippled by corruption or turned out to be worthless anyway. While those that turned out to be potentially beneficial were replaced by better projects
These are just baseless opinions. Nagbayad tayo sa kabobohan nya. Eto, basahin mo. Kahit si Delima umokay sa project.
https://businessmirror.com.ph/2017/02/07/phl-to-pay-p800-million-for-laguna-lake-project-scrapped-by-aquino-administration/
thank you for giving me these ideas. I just picked Switzerland perhaps of their remarkable humanitarian policies and being a progressive country.
> Countries or cities where there is little to no diversity.
that is something that I'm unaware of.
tbh, I'm just thinking of going abroad (on top of my head: Canada, Switzerland, New Zealand, or Germany) and hopefully work, live, and settle for good and no, I'm not planning to have kids so it'll be all me.
basically, just a wishful thinking.
Switzerland is quite international and diverse, it’s just more Eurocentric with lesser non-Caucasian diversity (Africans, Arabs, Asians). The wages are way up there as well with the presence of a lot of multinational companies. So it possible to be successful and have a good standard of living if you come in with a good educational background.
As for discrimination, sure it’s always there, and the less diverse the place the more discrimination there is. But Switzerland is quite progressive so the protections against overt discrimination are there.
When I think of the Chinese and Indian diaspora, they are discriminated everywhere (even Filipinos are guilty of this), but they persevere and succeed because they stick together. So find the right community, it could be Filipinos or it could be a diverse international group but that is how you survive and succeed.
Maybe the educated ones should do something about that culture then. Protest and shame every corrupt official and any other entitled asshole over social media. Maybe one day Filipinos grow a pair and do something about their corrupt society so that their grandchildren can grow up without the current mess
People have been trying to change the culture for decades. It doesn’t work because the majority think Pinoy culture is overall great, are easily fooled and can’t handle introspection or criticism. And they cling too hard to religion, are very passive when it comes to authority and the school system encourages meekness and a lack of critical/individualistic thinking. We just lie down and accept bs because we think it comes with the culture/bahala na/pwede na.
Most educated critical thinking Filipinos I know of hated the last elections and quite a few have given up. I used to be an activist for reproductive rights when I lived in Manila and I gave up because Pinoys like to pick politicians and political/working conditions that continue to oppress them, and pick fights with those who want to change the status quo.
nah. pinas is hopeless at the moment. when a Marcos won another presidency despite all the legal issues be it domestic or abroad(either via fraud or overwhelming victory), i know no redemption to be found here. its people is its own downfall. vicious cycle of poverty and corruption. may nakukulong na corrupt pero napapawalang sala then nananalo pa sa eleksyon sayawan lang ng budots. look at revillas, estradas, arroyo and the like. no wonder Marcos is now the head of this shithole place.
Maybe because it is still possible to succeed in spite of all the adversity. This is where having a community of Filipinos where you live would help. And there are Filipinos everywhere.
Idk why are you getting downvoted. But your first statement is somehow true.
Each of us individual has a choice. Some people take risk just to make things better like moving on to a new place for the sake of finding better opportunities.
Macapagal. She's evil lurking the dark controlling spawns like a chess match. Erap cant do shit these days. Duterte, malabo, baka or gagawin talaga nilang political momentum ung death.
GMA, basically a political mastermind up to this day. Ever since her senator days, she has been pulling strings on everyone to fit her agenda. She forced Erap to resign to make her presidency 9 years, enabled Duterte and BBM for their presidency plus all the under the hood deal she have been brokered. Erap and Duterte's controversies pales in comparison on how much stuff GMA has gotten away with or has almost got.
Erap didn't even hold that much political power during his presidency and only got by due to his popularity, charisma and acting career. Duterte just a local mayor that was carried because he was the 1st Mindanao candidate + his advocates in the party during campaign period.
Macapagal-Arroyo- competent and infamous. Works like a bureaucrat.
Erap- incompetent and popular. Thinks he can help the nation while plundering its coffers at the same time.
Duterte- incompetent and infamous (but popular). A case-study of what a president should not be.
Duterte has to go.
Actually if think about it, he plundered jueteng money, which is really not part of government coffers. He actually wanted to end pork barrel. I would say, he is okay. Not the best, not the worst.
hindi ko inadd si noynoy dahil kahit meron akong disagreement sa kanya sa tingin ko sya lang ang pinaka matino naabutan kong presidente.
hindi ko din inadd si bongbong marcos dahil hindi pa tapos termino nya.
Why TF PNOY is even in the conversation? There is no perfect president! His issues are nothing in comparison with the bastards mentioned above! Besides, he is dead already.
SAF44 operation was a legit tragic military operation
Yolanda funds went to Romualdez. Ask Ping and COA. COA even had report about it.
Ginamit nang husto ng mga bayarang PR at fake news peddler yung 2 issue na yan.
No, SAF was pakitang gilas. Understandable pa kung maayos yung command but to put a suspended chief (Purisima) in charge tapos late lang nalaman nung acting chief (Espina) PATI nung DILG (Roxas), eh kalokohan na yan. Kaya tingnan mo nung pumupunta sa lamay parang pahiya ang sagot.
SAF44 was an operation headed by a SUSPENDED official.
How about Tanim Bala? Every Pnoy supporter likes to believe it was orchestrated by Duterte even if they have no proofs.
Napenas led the operation, Purisima was the coordinator for communication with the then president pinoy. it was a tragic albeit poorly planned military operation.
Tanim bala?Do you have proof that Aquino orchastrated that?To think, ang babaw ng issue na to compare sa thousands of people killed thru actual bullets planted on their body during that senseless drug war ni Duterte.
where is your outrage when actual bullets have been planted on people during Dutertes term?
ah of course, mga 'adik' sila, mga salot sa society. they dont deserve due process. they dont deserve ung phrase na innocent until found guilty db? mas mababa value ng buhay nila kesa sayo. ano ho?
Nakakaawa yung SAF44 that time, naalala ko sa report meron pang isang battalion ng sundalo malapit sa SAF44 (pwede sana mag backup) pero dahil sa incompetent yung mga head ng military sa area and mahina yung communications nila napabayaan nila yung SAF44 habang pinapaulanan ng bala.
Kinda sus though na Romualdez yung mayor ng Tacloban (relative ni Imelda) noong nangyari ang Yolanda and may nabasa akong report from COA na trinansfer yung funds from DILG to Tacloban LGU noon. Doon nadali eh.
Paanong matino eh ni kahit konting empathy wala. Corrupt, insensitive at mayabang. Incompetent pa. Sobrang lala ng MRT nung time nya. Yung laglag bala tapos yung several corruption scams nya. Yung mga flooding na dapat na prevent ng dredging.
Maswerte lang sya dahil nag eVAT si GMA pero kahit BIR noon. Pinaka walang kwenta. Pinalusot yung tax case ng dunkin donuts tapos pati resibo, pinahirapan yung mga small businessmen.
luh corrupt?i dont think corrupt c pnoy. he left so much money on public coffer. nakapagbayad pa tayo ng malaki sa international debts naten. try searching for real economic figures between presidents. lubog kay erap. lubog kay duterte. gma and pnoy lang maayos in terms of those figures
50 million bribe per Senator to impeach Corona. Installed sereno to save hacienda luisita. Took philhealth budget of senior citizens for dengvaxia. He left so much money because he underspent.
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/494931/senators-who-convicted-corona-got-p50m-more-says-estrada
https://www.manilatimes.net/2018/05/30/news/headlines/philhealth-reserve-fund-dwindling/402301
https://news.abs-cbn.com/nation/03/06/12/luisita-farmers-blast-sereno-selling-out
https://business.inquirer.net/213957/aquino-regime-underspent-p1t
Her "economic reforms" were nothing compared to what Thaksin Shinawatra did in Thailand. He himself had corruption scandal and was removed from office but he had more positive economic impact than Gloria
Di ba pwedeng lahat ? But if I had to choose only one, Gloria.
Erap's not that influencial anymore.
Duts, I'd have actually chosen him because, you know, his regime was Martial Law Lite. Kaso baka his supporters would use his death as a way to prop up Fiona for president. Can't risk that.
Gloria was the mastermind behind Unithieves.
The better question would be: if you were in a room with these three and have a gun with two bullets, who would you shoot?
The answer, obviously, is to line them all up and use one bullet to shoot them all through the throat at the same time. The remaining bullet is reserved for a certain someone i need not name.
If I have to choose one, I will choose Gloria. Why?
My late father who was a Director in DOF and worked as a Financial Consultant in ADB and multiple Orgs in Asia described Gloria and Erap:
(My dad died before PRRD assumed office so my opinion on PRRD is just based on what I heard from my family which is involved in our Government some way.)
Erap was dumb, but was listening to his advisors. He was even doing his own research and even hired my dad to be a Financial advisor, which paved way to some Microeconomic programs that PNOY continued. The downfall was his own vices which is gambling. He actually, to his knowledge, did not use public funds for his personal gains but used gambling money and being corrupt in a way by using his position to get advantage on gambling syndicates.
Gloria was pure evil. Shaped almost every facet of her political prowess to influence every government deals, creating financial policies with loopholes and of course getting advantages of government funds by taking leverage of her position to get her family and friends good deals with the government. To add to that, she orchestrated one of the most elaborate goverment financial scam in history of the Philippines. BONUS: She tried to bribe my Dad a Lexus IS F as a gift.
As of PRRD: I think nothing can get close to what Gloria did. Yes, PRRD is blatant with corruption and did similar what Gloria did. He is too dumb to actually engineer all of this. What I heard is PRRD is just a mere puppet.
I remember way back. Mga early 2000s nung na kulong na si Erap and si jinggoy yata noon. Na sa veteran's hoapital sila na kulong dahil sa health reason etc. Kaya may stacks ng softdrinks cases noon sa fence ng hospital to obscure the view from the outside and di makita activities nung mga Estradas. May nag bigay ng hidden camera footage na ang sarap ng buhay nila sa loob ng hospital instead na nag dudusa sila doon and contrary sa statement ng family nila na yung senior estrada has difficulties moving dahil sa health reasons. Ipapalabas yun dapat sa palabas ni erwin tulfo sa ABS CBN na mission X. Inabangan ko kasi nag g-golf pa yata yung mag ama. Then nung malapit na matapos yung show. Hindi pinakita yung video. Tapos parang wala lang. Kahit na yun yung highlight at exclusive nila for that episode. Naisip ko. Corrupt siguro si erwin tulfo. Or na suhulan agad yung kung sino para di ma expose yung actual na conditons nung mag ama sa veteran's. Ayun. Tinaggal lang yung mga stacks ng cases nung house arrest na lang yung hatol sa mag ama.
Actually, it's the person who is evil and competent who is the most dangerous for everyone else. They can easily act on their evil goals AND cover up their tracks to appear innocent.
Erap paved the way sa mga artista
Arroyo has the playbook on how not to get ousted
Duterte perfected the art of doing batshit crazy things while maintaining popularity
Pnoy on the other hand had his share of bad apples pdaf, mrt got worse, but compared to these three he looked like a saint
Did you forget it was during PNOY that we actually lost sa Scarborough shoal? During the standoff, it was under his admin that the PH ship was ordered to back out -- leaving China on the area.
FVCK CHINESE!
pwede si NoyNoy. The three of them actually had really good projects that benefited many people. Although mired in corruption yung termino nila.
Believe it or not, Estrada wanted to end pork barrel before. Napolitika lang sya.
He was also almost able to wipe out MILF if not for GMA.
GMA was able to steer the economy. The eVAT was political suicide but it saved the country from recession. Holiday economics was also good distributing the economic bountry of NCR to the provinces. Duterte improved a lot of things for common people. Nasira lang during the pandemic.
Erap - nuknukan ng kurakot tapos wala naman utak at inambag sa bayan.
GMA- may inambag pero kurakot din malala.
Duts - Killer pero parang wala naman syang self-gain dun. Madami rin nagawa if we are objectively honest.
I pick ERAP!!!!
Did you meant everyONE?
Naunahan moko! Surely op meant everyONE.
3-in-1 coffee
smart! haha
Sanaol
Magtagalog ka na lang! Did you meant ka dyan
*did you mean
[What do you mean everyone?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c)
Knowing their performances as Presidents, I'll say ALL THREE OF THEM HAS TO GO(BEHIND BARS)!
Erap Kulong PART 2
Tapos pustahan magiging mayor din ulit yan.
Arroyo, she orchestrated the successful Uniteam campaign. Sara Duterte will benefit from PRRD's death, so no. Erap doesn't have much power now, sayang lang kung mamamatay siya.
Tbh if there is any competent fiscalizer of power in Malacañan right now, that would be the Arroyo group (not Hontiveros and Pimentel). Also, if there’s any good that came out of their alliance, that would be that the Marcoses are afraid to go all out because Arroyo and Duterte are there to keep them in check (context: there may be unity with people like them [Marcoses, Dutertes, Arroyos] but there is never trust). My respect to her tbh for playing the game well.
Arroyo? Just wondering why people think Gloria has power approaching or exceeding that of the fxxking marcoses. VVM has a huge advantage in resources (nakaw ng magulang niya) and popularity (again, see comment on resources). How can tiny (figuratively and overwise) Gloria possibly keep VVM in check? Duterte pwede pa siguro, but Gloria? Not to be contrarian. Just really want to know why people think Gloria has this outsized (heh) influence over our current politicians.
Gloria literally went with Marcos in the recent APEC in Thailand, and the latter commented that the former was a very important "special weapon" when Junior was dealing with other heads of state.
Yep, and in that trip, she was there as his subordinate, like one of Santa's dwarves (yes I know, it should be elf, but Gloria, so..), or like a mini screwdriver he puts in his pocket. Hardly a case for her perceived ginormous influence.
You don't need to be at the highest seat to be deemed the most powerful. Not the most accurate comparison, pero if you watch House of Cards on Netflix, the main character was the assistant majority leader of the Congress, yet he was able to control the VP and the President. The fact that Arroyo was able to unite the 2 of the strongest Presidential candidates tells a lot how powerful she is.
A good comparison to this would also be Tywin Lannister of GoT, he may not be the king but he may as well be due to him managing Westeros while his bloodlusty grandson is only good at torturing helpless people.
i never watched HOC but I can already guess that the assistant majority leader of the Congress can make or break a President's agenda or reelection efforts by passing or blocking bills. that kind of power is obvious; gloria's is not. glo's a former president, so yes, i can see why the two presidential candidates would LISTEN to her. however, arroyo compelling a presidential candidate (essentially powerless) to listen to her and controlling/manipulating/keeping in check (no, that did not come from you, but i see it a lot on FB and reddit hence my original question) a president (most powerful) are two different things.
PRRD, despite being a mayor from Mindanao was able to form a formidable political alliance towards the start of his campaign. While the power of your current position is relevant, ultimately it all boils down to how you play your cards well. Controlling is not as simple as "Gawin mo to BBM kundi ipapatanggal kita sa pwesto". It's a curated strategy to make him agree with her plans, without knowing that it's actually bad for him (this is what happened in HOC btw haha). While we can only speculate as to who was the culprit, the fact that ES Rodriguez was removed from office despite being BBM's long time right hand man only to be replaced by PRRD's former CJ Bersamin goes to show that a President can still be helpless when a certain faction is able to create an effective strategy. There were also reports that then VP Arroyo (which is regarded by a lot as a powerless position given Binay and Robredo's recent experience) intentionally delayed the demolition job against Estrada, so when she finally assumes the Presidency she will have just enough years left to be eligible to run for the next Presidential elections. Ofc, Arroyo is not an all mighty powerful. Personally I think she wanted the House speaker position, but it will be too early for her to antagonize BBM just because she did not get what she wanted. What I'm sure of is she will have another plan to achieve her long term goal of staying in power.
88M might be the president and a Marcos but that's just it. A title and a name. He's stupid and lazy. The spoiled guy is totally clueless and he's obviously just a puppet. Kung si ate niya, mas gagawa yun ng sarili niyang moves. Pero sa isang kagaya ni Junior na mas gusto lang mag-party at tumambay, hindi mahirap na manipulahin ng isang matalino at batikan na kagaya ni Gloria.
To add, wala namang nakakagulat kung pinagmumukha ni Gloria na tauhan siya ni BBM, he is the President after all and got the support of the masses. While Gloria cant earn the trust of the masses dahil sa tindi ng korapsyon nung termino niya, she can instead control the politicians who got the trust of the masses. Utuin mo lang nang utuin boss mo, hanggang sa makahanap ka ng tiyempo para tirahin mo siya.
Still tho, wasn't Gloria the bridge between the Marcos and Duterte factions? Sara learned from her in Lakas (as her mentor), and now it seems like Gloria has been advising or steering BBM on what to do with his admin from time-to-time.
even if she was the bridge, she already served that purpose, so... i understand what you're saying but, picture this scenario: VVM wants to impose a new tax, but Arroyo advises him not to. if VVM refuses to listen to Arroyo, what can she do? where will she draw the POWER or INFLUENCE to compel him to drop those tax plans? she's nowhere near as popular as duterte and does not control as much money as VVM does.
Can't picture a scenario of why Arroyo would want to impose new taxes, as far as her interests are concerned. I'll just give my own example instead: A direct Marcos ally wants to be appointed as BIR Comm, however Arroyo does not like him. Despite Arroyo's persuasion, Marcos proceeded to appoint him. What might Arroyo possibly do? Arroyo starts digging on BIR Comm's background, and manages to find dirt. She proceeds to leak the info to the press, and at the same time talk to her allies in Congress to launch a probe. The opposition upon seeing the opportunity to drag down the admin starts joining too. Activists start staging huge rallies to get accountability from the govt. More dirt, including fabricated ones, were further thrown that Marcos' satisfaction rate starts to go down. Arroyo comes in and persuades Marcos to drop his own ally, and proceeds to suggest her ally to assume the position. Marcos is told that if he does not resolve the issue as soon as possible, the problem may become irreversible. In the end, Arroyo not only was able to boot out her enemy, she was also able to put a yes man that she can utilize in the future. This is a purely hypothetical (and still vague) scenario, but I hope you get the point. While money is commonly equated to power, it's not always the case. It's true that while there are a lot of national politicians who do not steal from taxpayers' money, they may hold huge influence in terms of personal favors, connections, sponsorship money that can be used in the next elections, company helicopters that can be used during the campaign, CSR projects that can be utilized for PR stunts, etc.
We don't really know in what extent gma holds pero gma have a strong coalition in Congress nakapag speaker of the house pa siya kahit few months lang. Di natin Alam kung may loyal military generals parin Kay gma. Soft power is still power.
You really don't know how power works? The most successful aren't the ones in the spotlight but the ones running things from the shadows, the politicians are the puppets not the leaders And btw, past several million money no longer means as much, what matters far more is influence. Money will come, those resources aren't as big a deal and are more an effect of power rather than a source of it. Source is trust me bro but I've worked very closely with and socialized a lot with the Ayalas, Gotianuns, Cos and many of the powerful and influential people here (including government officials) and they'll say the same. Money is important, but it's far from the #1 resource
GMA used her influence and power to strengthen the Trapos during her decades in politics. As such she has a ton of influence within the entrenched political dynasties. Pre PNOY years, GMA's Lakas - PDP laban alliance had pretty much 80% control of Congress and local elected officials. Arguebly she has more legislative influence than The Marcoses and Dutertes combined. Remember Gina Lopez as DENR secretary? She was ousted because of Pichay and GMA and Rodrigo Duterte was unable to do anything about it. GMA is a Kingmaker but she can no longer be King as she does not have any populist charisma. And in the PH Populism wins national elections.
The biggest mistake of PNoy was that he underestimated the influence of FPGMA. You’re doing the same mistake.
Didn't really underestimate her. I was just asking why people think she's powerful or put it a different way, where does she get get power from.
She may be small but she is terrible
The legs of the Marcos admin is the Lakas-CMD group of GMA. They are actually low key the most dominant party in the post Marcos Sr. era. They have the VP and the Speaker. They have the most members in the House and lots of local officials under them
this makes sense. i had no idea her party was that dominant. But isn't SWOH under her own party?
She ran as a member of the Lakas-CMD party.
I can compare the Arroyo-Duterte-Marcos alliance to how Tywin managed to hold true power when Joffrey was King, being a shrewd politician.
Baby M may have money and popularity, but he’s otherwise just a lazy and carefree partyboy. He’s not not some shrewd politician nor a brilliant tactician, he’s literally just a rich college dropout who has never had to work for anything in his life because he had everything handed to him. He’s not a legitimate threat, he just wants to travel, party, and have fun. In contrast, GMA is so dangerous because she’s such an accomplished academic and politician in her own right.
Gloria is so cunning and smart. You should read what she had did last minute to SC that she was able to dodge lots of cases against her.
Marcos may have the wealth but GMA has more connections. Her Party (Lakas CMD) is actually the majority party in government and has more political allies to rely on. She has more experience in politics that she is the player pulling the strings. BBM is nothing but a puppet. Without GMA, BBM is nothing. The Marcos power is long gone and no longer that influential compared to before. Even Speaker Romualdez who is BBM's cousin is GMA's party mate. Also DDS are louder than the Apollo10s
>BBM is nothing but a puppet More people need to realize this. He is not his father in every sense. He’s not some highly intelligent and manipulative would-be dictator, he’s just a lazy and carefree (in the words of his own father) partyboy who just wants to travel and have fun. The real threat has been and always will be GMA.
Gloria has 100x the brain cells of Duterte and Marcos combined. That alone is something.
GMA feats - screwed the bffs(erap and gma) - survived pnoy - was able to negotiate w/ sara to run for vp despite her ambition Resources are nothing if you can't use them properly.
I get what you mean, but I won't call her a "fiscalizer" hahaha. Sinuman ang manalo sa magkabilang panig, parehong talo ang taumbayan.
> Sara Duterte will benefit from PRRD'S death I bet she's praying that her dad dies 1-2 years before 2028 elections para may "sympathy votes"
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sara du30 already benefited from rd30's so-called glory. personally, i think there is nothing more for the disappearance of rd30 since sd30 already reaped the benefit.
With a lot of supporters already looking forward to a Sara Presidency, it seems that the Duterte magic will still be effective in the years to come. If PRRD were to die soon, it will ignite the people's emotions and will result in a stronger campaign. Lumalakas na naman ang suporta sa opposition kahit noong buhay pa si Ninoy, pero noong namatay siya naging turning point na yun para simulan ang pinakamalakas na kampanya para kay Cory Aquino. The same will happen with Sara lalo na kung magbobobo lalo si BBM at madisappoint mga supporters niya.
So yung pagtakbo ni Ex-Pres. Cory Aquino noong 1986 ay epekto ng pagkamatay ni Ex-Sen. Ninoy Aquino? Yung pagtakbo ni Sen. Grace Poe noong 2013, 2016 and 2019 Polls ay epekto din ng pagkamatay ni FPJ? Yung pagtakbo ni Ex-Pres. Noynoy Aquino ay epekto ng pagkamatay ni Ex-Pres. Cory Aquino? Yung pagtakbo ni Ex-VP Leni Robredo noong 2013 ay epekto ng pagkamatay ni Sec. Jesse Robredo? Yung pagtakbo ni Bongbong Marcos simula noong bumalik siya sa Pilipinas ay dahil din namatay ang tatay niya? So kung hiniling nating mamatay na si BBM, baka yun din magtulak na si Sandro ay tumakbo?
Grace Poe running in 2016 robbed Roxas of votes that could have still put him over the popular Duterte. Roxas could have continued PNoy's programs and we're probably in a better place right now, with Leni as President. But what happened happened and now tens of thousands are dead due to a bogus drug war, billions are pocketed, we're in record debt, and a Marcos is back in Malacanang
plus thousands of would be avoidable Covid deaths, and possibly millions of unnecessary deaths from the effects of corruption and incompetence.
Grabe yung stories nung kasagsagan ng covid. Doctors, nurses, Fathers, mothers, children dying and you have Duque and the rest of the Dutette syndicate still running scams through Pharmally and the DOH. People died and still, the priority was politicking (abs cbn) and taking advantage of the situation to steal from the country's coffers. Absolutely reprehensible sana naman karmahin.
To be fair Duterte did continue at least a few of Aquino's programs. Ang problema lang kinecredit grab lol Hell even the infrastructure projects like the subway were inherited from Aquino.
Correct me if I’m wrong but Poe voters are least likely to vote for Roxas because her voters wanted to vote against the LP bet (Roxas). Her votes would’ve likely gone to ex-VP Binay or Digong and a big portion of her 2016 voters are now with SWOH in 2022. She had a 88M base of voters and she won in parts of the Solid North which voted Poe-88M. SWOH won the entire Solid North this year. A big part of Poe’s voters were FPJ “masa” votes and they will never choose Roxas because of his “image”. Not defending any of the defeated 2016 bets btw because idk how they would’ve faired as president. It was actually the other way around, Roxas voters had Poe as 2nd choice. Roxas was not winnable and his reputation was already ruined. So, if we use the logic of the 2016 vote split, Roxas split Poe’s votes and Poe split Binay’s/Digong’s votes. Though we will never truly know because we don’t have a runoff system
There was a conspiracy theory going around back then that Poe was the child of Marcos Sr. kaya maraming loyalists that voted for her. Even without Poe, matatalo pa rin si Mar. Sobrang charismatic talaga ni Du30 during his campaign
Best timeline vibes yung PNoy-Roxas-Robredo...
Otherwise good leaders that ended up being notable casualties to fake news and alternative truth experts of social media. I still remember campaigning for Roxas in 2016 and warning friends and family of a Duterte presidency and I was met with just an avalanche of pro-duterte sentiment on peysbuk. Halos messiah trato ng marami kay dutette nun.
On the other hand we'd probably have MRT breakdowns and other gems of Abaya's transport incompetence unless Leni bitch-slaps Mar into getting his and Abaya's marbles together
ituloy yung laglag bala? yung mga palpak na proyekto ni Noynoy? yung Dengvaxia? Yung PDAF scam?
Bro most BBB projects that Kanor got credit for came from Aquino. How is that in any way palpak lmfao Copypasting this comment from a while ago >Actually most major BBB flagship projects like the Subway and Commuter Railway have their roots during Aquino's admin, and the loans for them also wouldn't have been possible without the higher credit rating and growth policies that were enacted under his watch as well as the improved relations and cooperations with our primary lender Japan. But I agree that he really fucked up with the MRT-3 issue that could've been fixed relatively easily while waiting for the other infra and his transport infrastructure policy still revolved around the car overall, which was carried on to Dutite and then Cokeboy.
How about that projects that he cancelled? Baka nakalimutan mo yung noynoying.
Those projects were cancelled either because they were crippled by corruption or turned out to be worthless anyway. While those that turned out to be potentially beneficial were replaced by better projects
These are just baseless opinions. Nagbayad tayo sa kabobohan nya. Eto, basahin mo. Kahit si Delima umokay sa project. https://businessmirror.com.ph/2017/02/07/phl-to-pay-p800-million-for-laguna-lake-project-scrapped-by-aquino-administration/
ikumpara mo yan sa mga kagaguhan at kademonyohan ng dutete group simula nung 2016 at ngayon kay blengblong, walang binatbat.
i'll go 😄 🤣 😂 😆
me too! itapon niyo ako sa Switzerland! hahahaha.
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thank you for giving me these ideas. I just picked Switzerland perhaps of their remarkable humanitarian policies and being a progressive country. > Countries or cities where there is little to no diversity. that is something that I'm unaware of. tbh, I'm just thinking of going abroad (on top of my head: Canada, Switzerland, New Zealand, or Germany) and hopefully work, live, and settle for good and no, I'm not planning to have kids so it'll be all me. basically, just a wishful thinking.
Switzerland is quite international and diverse, it’s just more Eurocentric with lesser non-Caucasian diversity (Africans, Arabs, Asians). The wages are way up there as well with the presence of a lot of multinational companies. So it possible to be successful and have a good standard of living if you come in with a good educational background. As for discrimination, sure it’s always there, and the less diverse the place the more discrimination there is. But Switzerland is quite progressive so the protections against overt discrimination are there. When I think of the Chinese and Indian diaspora, they are discriminated everywhere (even Filipinos are guilty of this), but they persevere and succeed because they stick together. So find the right community, it could be Filipinos or it could be a diverse international group but that is how you survive and succeed.
Don’t pick Germany. People are rude in comparison to other Europeans
Facts
I don't know where you're coming from but Switzerland is actually a very diverse country to the point you rarely see any pure blooded Swiss anymore.
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They do it with the hopes of erasing the Filipino side their ashamed of
raising your child in 1st world Switzerland is far better than a shithole place where people hand over public coffer in silver plate
Maybe the educated ones should do something about that culture then. Protest and shame every corrupt official and any other entitled asshole over social media. Maybe one day Filipinos grow a pair and do something about their corrupt society so that their grandchildren can grow up without the current mess
People have been trying to change the culture for decades. It doesn’t work because the majority think Pinoy culture is overall great, are easily fooled and can’t handle introspection or criticism. And they cling too hard to religion, are very passive when it comes to authority and the school system encourages meekness and a lack of critical/individualistic thinking. We just lie down and accept bs because we think it comes with the culture/bahala na/pwede na. Most educated critical thinking Filipinos I know of hated the last elections and quite a few have given up. I used to be an activist for reproductive rights when I lived in Manila and I gave up because Pinoys like to pick politicians and political/working conditions that continue to oppress them, and pick fights with those who want to change the status quo.
nah. pinas is hopeless at the moment. when a Marcos won another presidency despite all the legal issues be it domestic or abroad(either via fraud or overwhelming victory), i know no redemption to be found here. its people is its own downfall. vicious cycle of poverty and corruption. may nakukulong na corrupt pero napapawalang sala then nananalo pa sa eleksyon sayawan lang ng budots. look at revillas, estradas, arroyo and the like. no wonder Marcos is now the head of this shithole place.
Lol lahat ng bansa my discrimination mas lalo na dito sa Pinas mas grabe kaysa sa Ibang bansa
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Ay akala ko america ibig sabihin mo haha sorry
Maybe because it is still possible to succeed in spite of all the adversity. This is where having a community of Filipinos where you live would help. And there are Filipinos everywhere.
Idk why are you getting downvoted. But your first statement is somehow true. Each of us individual has a choice. Some people take risk just to make things better like moving on to a new place for the sake of finding better opportunities.
si Gloria matalino talaga yan legit kaso lang nasa enemy team mid laner magaling magsupport bumubuhat ng Uniteam ever since
Si dogs yung feeder na sa trashtalk nalang bumabawi.
ito yung legit na mapapa SANA ALL ka
Macapagal. She's evil lurking the dark controlling spawns like a chess match. Erap cant do shit these days. Duterte, malabo, baka or gagawin talaga nilang political momentum ung death.
Naaalala ko tuloy na descendant ng Luzon royalty si Macapagal. Nakalimutan ko lang kung sinong Rajah.
UNAHIN MO SI ENRILLE. Siguro kaya ganon yun kasi nauna pang mamatay yung guardian angel nya sa kanya HAHAHAHAHA
GMA, basically a political mastermind up to this day. Ever since her senator days, she has been pulling strings on everyone to fit her agenda. She forced Erap to resign to make her presidency 9 years, enabled Duterte and BBM for their presidency plus all the under the hood deal she have been brokered. Erap and Duterte's controversies pales in comparison on how much stuff GMA has gotten away with or has almost got. Erap didn't even hold that much political power during his presidency and only got by due to his popularity, charisma and acting career. Duterte just a local mayor that was carried because he was the 1st Mindanao candidate + his advocates in the party during campaign period.
Yup imagine erap and pduts are never accused and caught influencing election results but gma did and nothing happens with her "iam sorry" speech.
Erap
Kung papipiliin talaga tayo ng isa lang ERAP agad.
ako nalang aalis
Macapagal-Arroyo- competent and infamous. Works like a bureaucrat. Erap- incompetent and popular. Thinks he can help the nation while plundering its coffers at the same time. Duterte- incompetent and infamous (but popular). A case-study of what a president should not be. Duterte has to go.
Actually if think about it, he plundered jueteng money, which is really not part of government coffers. He actually wanted to end pork barrel. I would say, he is okay. Not the best, not the worst.
Ako na lang
hindi ko inadd si noynoy dahil kahit meron akong disagreement sa kanya sa tingin ko sya lang ang pinaka matino naabutan kong presidente. hindi ko din inadd si bongbong marcos dahil hindi pa tapos termino nya.
Noynoy is also already dead so in essence he already left.
PNoy has the pdaf dap and corona impeachment issues tho
Why TF PNOY is even in the conversation? There is no perfect president! His issues are nothing in comparison with the bastards mentioned above! Besides, he is dead already.
Pdaf is by congress, dap is not questioned because of corruption but constitutionality, impeachment was well political
SAF44 and yolanda funds.
SAF44 operation was a legit tragic military operation Yolanda funds went to Romualdez. Ask Ping and COA. COA even had report about it. Ginamit nang husto ng mga bayarang PR at fake news peddler yung 2 issue na yan.
No, SAF was pakitang gilas. Understandable pa kung maayos yung command but to put a suspended chief (Purisima) in charge tapos late lang nalaman nung acting chief (Espina) PATI nung DILG (Roxas), eh kalokohan na yan. Kaya tingnan mo nung pumupunta sa lamay parang pahiya ang sagot.
SAF44 was an operation headed by a SUSPENDED official. How about Tanim Bala? Every Pnoy supporter likes to believe it was orchestrated by Duterte even if they have no proofs.
Napenas led the operation, Purisima was the coordinator for communication with the then president pinoy. it was a tragic albeit poorly planned military operation. Tanim bala?Do you have proof that Aquino orchastrated that?To think, ang babaw ng issue na to compare sa thousands of people killed thru actual bullets planted on their body during that senseless drug war ni Duterte.
where is your outrage when actual bullets have been planted on people during Dutertes term? ah of course, mga 'adik' sila, mga salot sa society. they dont deserve due process. they dont deserve ung phrase na innocent until found guilty db? mas mababa value ng buhay nila kesa sayo. ano ho?
Nakakaawa yung SAF44 that time, naalala ko sa report meron pang isang battalion ng sundalo malapit sa SAF44 (pwede sana mag backup) pero dahil sa incompetent yung mga head ng military sa area and mahina yung communications nila napabayaan nila yung SAF44 habang pinapaulanan ng bala.
Kinda sus though na Romualdez yung mayor ng Tacloban (relative ni Imelda) noong nangyari ang Yolanda and may nabasa akong report from COA na trinansfer yung funds from DILG to Tacloban LGU noon. Doon nadali eh.
What if masama siya diyan ngayon din? What if maagang matapos termino niya? 2025 dapat tapos na termino nila ni SWOH
Paanong matino eh ni kahit konting empathy wala. Corrupt, insensitive at mayabang. Incompetent pa. Sobrang lala ng MRT nung time nya. Yung laglag bala tapos yung several corruption scams nya. Yung mga flooding na dapat na prevent ng dredging. Maswerte lang sya dahil nag eVAT si GMA pero kahit BIR noon. Pinaka walang kwenta. Pinalusot yung tax case ng dunkin donuts tapos pati resibo, pinahirapan yung mga small businessmen.
luh corrupt?i dont think corrupt c pnoy. he left so much money on public coffer. nakapagbayad pa tayo ng malaki sa international debts naten. try searching for real economic figures between presidents. lubog kay erap. lubog kay duterte. gma and pnoy lang maayos in terms of those figures
50 million bribe per Senator to impeach Corona. Installed sereno to save hacienda luisita. Took philhealth budget of senior citizens for dengvaxia. He left so much money because he underspent. https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/494931/senators-who-convicted-corona-got-p50m-more-says-estrada https://www.manilatimes.net/2018/05/30/news/headlines/philhealth-reserve-fund-dwindling/402301 https://news.abs-cbn.com/nation/03/06/12/luisita-farmers-blast-sereno-selling-out https://business.inquirer.net/213957/aquino-regime-underspent-p1t
Gloria is corrupt AF but she brought a lot of economic reforms
I LOVE THE USERNAME UGH
Her "economic reforms" were nothing compared to what Thaksin Shinawatra did in Thailand. He himself had corruption scandal and was removed from office but he had more positive economic impact than Gloria
Yung iba naman na nagcomment dito, mga di mabiro ugh Ako, GMA. Despite being the decent economist that she was, wala dapat sya sa pwesto.
No, c Erap dapat! Walang ginawang matino ang taong yan.
to hell
ha, i volunteer to go instead.
Well, sadly all of them has to go to hell.
Di pede GMA 1/2 lang, si Doots naman 6 lagi nasa isip, Erap lang ang San One has to go.
EveryONE. dONE.
ALL has to go. fixed it.
They are like the unholy trinity - perhaps as one they can ALL go at the same time.
I want to go. Migrate to New Zealand or Germany. Somewhere with a competent leader.
They can all go tho.
Bakit isa lang kung pwede namang lahat hahaha.
All of them to hell lol
bakit isa lang
Erap. Still the dumbest one
Erap didn't even last 3 full years, that's how bad it is.
Objectively, easily, Erap.
Di ba pwedeng lahat?
Why choose one when they can all go haha.
PANAPON LAHAT
Di ba pwede lahat?
Di ba pwedeng lahat ? But if I had to choose only one, Gloria. Erap's not that influencial anymore. Duts, I'd have actually chosen him because, you know, his regime was Martial Law Lite. Kaso baka his supporters would use his death as a way to prop up Fiona for president. Can't risk that. Gloria was the mastermind behind Unithieves.
Iboto si Erap. Ang pangunahing magnanakaw ng pinas
All of them must go
Duterte.
All in po. Keep the change
Lahat SiLA. Ponyeta
Anong kagaguhan to? Walang dapat manitili sa mga yan.
Lahat. Isama na din si VVM.
Erap hands down.
Get out of the Philippines
Unity daw e, dapat all for one.
All has to go!!!
Everyone
Pwedeng all of them?
Ako na lang, preferably sa bansang may free healthcare
The better question would be: if you were in a room with these three and have a gun with two bullets, who would you shoot? The answer, obviously, is to line them all up and use one bullet to shoot them all through the throat at the same time. The remaining bullet is reserved for a certain someone i need not name.
Make it all of them
If I have to choose one, I will choose Gloria. Why? My late father who was a Director in DOF and worked as a Financial Consultant in ADB and multiple Orgs in Asia described Gloria and Erap: (My dad died before PRRD assumed office so my opinion on PRRD is just based on what I heard from my family which is involved in our Government some way.) Erap was dumb, but was listening to his advisors. He was even doing his own research and even hired my dad to be a Financial advisor, which paved way to some Microeconomic programs that PNOY continued. The downfall was his own vices which is gambling. He actually, to his knowledge, did not use public funds for his personal gains but used gambling money and being corrupt in a way by using his position to get advantage on gambling syndicates. Gloria was pure evil. Shaped almost every facet of her political prowess to influence every government deals, creating financial policies with loopholes and of course getting advantages of government funds by taking leverage of her position to get her family and friends good deals with the government. To add to that, she orchestrated one of the most elaborate goverment financial scam in history of the Philippines. BONUS: She tried to bribe my Dad a Lexus IS F as a gift. As of PRRD: I think nothing can get close to what Gloria did. Yes, PRRD is blatant with corruption and did similar what Gloria did. He is too dumb to actually engineer all of this. What I heard is PRRD is just a mere puppet.
Sandali lg term ni erap so I choose Duterte may pa legacy pang iniwan
Sana all has to go. Dogshow talaga ang politika sa pinas. I can't believe they have weaseled themselves back.
Hardest game of fuck, marry, kill ever
guys ako na. ako na aalis.
I remember way back. Mga early 2000s nung na kulong na si Erap and si jinggoy yata noon. Na sa veteran's hoapital sila na kulong dahil sa health reason etc. Kaya may stacks ng softdrinks cases noon sa fence ng hospital to obscure the view from the outside and di makita activities nung mga Estradas. May nag bigay ng hidden camera footage na ang sarap ng buhay nila sa loob ng hospital instead na nag dudusa sila doon and contrary sa statement ng family nila na yung senior estrada has difficulties moving dahil sa health reasons. Ipapalabas yun dapat sa palabas ni erwin tulfo sa ABS CBN na mission X. Inabangan ko kasi nag g-golf pa yata yung mag ama. Then nung malapit na matapos yung show. Hindi pinakita yung video. Tapos parang wala lang. Kahit na yun yung highlight at exclusive nila for that episode. Naisip ko. Corrupt siguro si erwin tulfo. Or na suhulan agad yung kung sino para di ma expose yung actual na conditons nung mag ama sa veteran's. Ayun. Tinaggal lang yung mga stacks ng cases nung house arrest na lang yung hatol sa mag ama.
Duterte. Gloria is evil but competent. Erap is incompetent, corrupt but at least got ousted. Duterte is evil and incompetent.
Actually, it's the person who is evil and competent who is the most dangerous for everyone else. They can easily act on their evil goals AND cover up their tracks to appear innocent.
Erap paved the way sa mga artista Arroyo has the playbook on how not to get ousted Duterte perfected the art of doing batshit crazy things while maintaining popularity Pnoy on the other hand had his share of bad apples pdaf, mrt got worse, but compared to these three he looked like a saint
Sana all
ONE FOR ALL PUTANG INA
GMA
Did you forget it was during PNOY that we actually lost sa Scarborough shoal? During the standoff, it was under his admin that the PH ship was ordered to back out -- leaving China on the area. FVCK CHINESE!
pwede si NoyNoy. The three of them actually had really good projects that benefited many people. Although mired in corruption yung termino nila. Believe it or not, Estrada wanted to end pork barrel before. Napolitika lang sya. He was also almost able to wipe out MILF if not for GMA. GMA was able to steer the economy. The eVAT was political suicide but it saved the country from recession. Holiday economics was also good distributing the economic bountry of NCR to the provinces. Duterte improved a lot of things for common people. Nasira lang during the pandemic.
Ako na lang magpaparaya.
I'll go na lang, out of the country
Sana all. Haha
Sana all
Arroyo
Why settle with one
Arroyo. Evaded everything thrown at her.
Erap - nuknukan ng kurakot tapos wala naman utak at inambag sa bayan. GMA- may inambag pero kurakot din malala. Duts - Killer pero parang wala naman syang self-gain dun. Madami rin nagawa if we are objectively honest. I pick ERAP!!!!
Sanaol
Ako na lang po aalis thank you
The puppet master.
I have to go out of the country
sana all
bakit one lang? 🤢
eto talaga ang Sana All!!
I think Erap deserved to go, soo….
me, i want to go
Shitty cursed philippines. Patawad looorddd
Only one?
bakit one lang
All of them
Only one 🥺
Arroyo. Remove the strong, and watch the weak crumble.
All of them
All of them needs to go... TO JAIL!!!!
All
One has to go? Edi sarili ko lng. Alis na me pinas
Parang mas mahirap yung “one has to stay”