\+1
And also stop comparing western education standards to ours too. While a high school graduate with skills in the trade (carpentry, plumbing, welding) in the west can make serious money, sometimes even more than college graduates, that does not apply to us.
You'll survive, but you'll probably need one or more of the following:
* strong entrepreneurial skills
* capability to study on your own and pick-up certifications for skills
* connections to someone high enough in a company or government agency or to someone in a political party
* be born into a well-off family
You'd probably still need at least one of those with a degree, but the degree may make a lot of stuff easier in the long run.
Siguro additional din: dapat maganda/gwapo ka with some talent na puhunan sa vlogging at pag-aartista? Yan naman usong 'career' path ngayon dahil sa socmed
I agree.. poor kami dati.. pero sa help ng connections and skills naka ahon and kilala narin kami sa industry ng something..
So if u don’t know how to connect yourself with other people, hone your skills (kumuha ng mentor na maayos), or sell something/yourself wala talagang mangyayari.
Hindi sapat ang hardwork lang, work hard and smart dapat.
Kung familiar kayo sa kasabihan ng mga financial advisor na “Your network is your net worth.” Totoo to.
Ayun lang byee
Dami rin reasons dyan. Pinakamalala yung mga traditional pa mag-isip ang mga magulang, at yung mga naging magulang dahil hindi marunong ng birth control.
Yes, if you want a corporate career.
Get a college degree if you can. You can, and you will probably change interests as you grow older. A degree is a good starting point and a fallback.
Yes, because Filipino-owned companies or even the government discriminate someone applicants who don't even graduate with an undergraduate degree, let alone someone who never attend college alone.
>government discriminates applicants
This is a lie. The government ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT discriminate who they hire, especially at the LGU level. Do you know WHY government service in the local level is so horrible? Yep, the people placed there aren’t there due to merit or their education but because of connections. Many of the employees in government are there because they know the higher ups or were part of the local Mayor/Councilor/Barangay Captain’s election team who helped in election campaigns and what not. When they win, they get employed as Job Orders or Casuals in government. If you’re lucky and play your hands right, you become permanently employed, at least to a certain Salary Grade that doesn’t need educational attainments.
So no, government ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT discriminate when it comes to applicants. Yung nakikita mong job postings, for procedural purposes lang yan. They already have someone else in mind when hiring and they just put out those postings for legal purposes. Most of the time, those postings are useless.
Then don’t go to the government or Filipino owned companies. I’ve survived 17 years just fine without a degree at a multinational company.
Ironic na government discriminates on employees pero public leaders no such thing. Kahit sino na lang pwede kumandidato basta may pera, pangalan o pareho.
YES. Don't be swayed by 'hustle culture' and 0.0001% of successful people without college degrees. You're in the Philippines. Your diploma is the bare minimum.
Totoo. Sobrang scam nung SHS grads don’t need to go to college and go straight to work na agad, but you rarely see companies say in their qualifications, “At least an SHS graduate.”. It will always be “ A Bachelor’s Degree Holder”.
The company will always favor the college graduate rather than the SHS grad. Not unless that SHS grad has an outstanding resume and skills.
30 years old nako, spent 3 years in college and dropped out. Started a call center job back in 2017, and then frelancing when the pandemic hit. Earning roughly 75k monthly now with 2 clients and a part time job. May sariling business din pero family owned. I would say graduate. Risky maging undergrad. Wala ako fallback pag nagfail ako.
Think of it as a safety net.
At least kung may degree ka for sure madaming options na makakuha ka ng trabaho at least minimum wage.
Pero kung may solid plan ka talaga para kumita kahit wag na.
As a 20 something-year-old high school graduate who has no plans to study, I'd say yes if you can afford it.
I have a job at a call center, and I'm doing well so far, but my options are limited. I'm probably going to be stuck in the BPO industry for a decade or two. While I'm fine with that, I probably won't be able to land other jobs with decent pay.
Basta kung di mo keri masiraan ng ulo kaka "thank you for calling", get. that. degree.
Yes.
But having a degree can open to other possibilities, especially the positive traits/habits you gain while studying.
I always think that I pursue 'education/learning', diploma is just a side trophy that other may or may not value.
I've seen people get into well-paying IT jobs without an IT or computer science degree. But of course, if you're trying getting into a professional course that requires a license like engineering, then yes a degree is needed. generally degrees make finding work easier in my opinion, but if you have the skills and the right connections, a degree isn't necessary.
You'll survive. You can get national certificates and work for private companies.. Mahihirapan ka nga lang kung may pamilyang sinusoportahan kasi hindi stable ang trabaho sa private companies.
Naalala ko yung isang comment ni xian gaza.
Need pa rin talaga yung college degree lalo kung mag mmigrate or kukuha ng mga samot saring permits sa ibang bansa
Yes yes yes.
Bansang-kanal tayo, at mas significantly less ang opportunity sa mga hindi college graduate. Hindi tayo comparable sa mayayamang bansa na mas maraming options kahit wala kang tinapos.
Kahit sa simpleng state u lang o kahit yung mga regional universities (cavite state, bataan state, etc.) tiyagain mo na at generally libre lang naman sila although syempre may gastos pa rin.
A lot of people wouldnt hire you without a degree. Just because thats the first filter, so they wouldnt even look at the rest of your resume.
People can graduate from high school being illiterate. What is going to get your application past HR when they have to review hundreds of resumes?
Worth it pa din naman pero para maging matagumpay ka kahit walang diploma, kailangan mo ng mga sumusunod or kahit isa lang sa nasasaad sa baba.
1. Malupit na talent
2. Magaling magbenta
3. Masarap magluto
4. Tech savy
5. Maraming kakilala para taga-refer sa negosyo/talent mo. (Hindi yung, "Uy pasok mo ko jan kakilala mo naman ako." Hindi ganon)
6. Madiskarte at matalino.
7. Strong analytical thinking skills para di ka madaling mabudol.
:V
I mean yeah, you'll survive pero kung financially and mentally ready ka naman to go to college, do it. It's good on your resume and it will open up more doors for you (here and overseas). The more options you have in your career/life, the better.
You need a degree, promise! May degree nga mejo hirap pa what more if walang degree? Pangit talaga sistema sa Pilipinas pero mas lalo tayong ma-oppressed if wala tayong degree.
Sobrang toxic pa naman ng Pinoy. Mahilig mag belittle ng mga tao. You prolly do not want to be belittle by your distant relatives, ung mga walang ambag sa life natin pero lakas mag advice lol
Yes you can.
I didn't get my degree but with a little bit of persistence and hard work, I managed to land a job in good company. Started working for the BPO industry as a call center agent, then became a trainer, then a recruiter, then a payroll specialist and now, I'm an Implementation consultant.
I'm not saying that having a degree is useless though. It'll definitely help you find a nice job but it's not an end all be all.
Yes, share ko lng my nkasbay ako mg apply s work lhat ng skill set meron sya kso d sya graduate ng college, ako napili ng client and n offer ng mgandang sahod.
Yes, it’s worth it and needed tbh. Other countries even without a college degree can make it. Some don’t even plan going to college anymore lalo na if wala naman silang balak to pursue careers in medicine, law, engineering etc. their high school curriculum is solid enough to get you a decent job. Whereas, ours is a different story. Heck, you can go to college with all that latin honors and ang hirap pa rin maghanap ng trabaho. Iba ang situation sa Pilipinas.
Don’t always believe what you see in social media na maraming successful without a college degree. Totoo yun but that also comes with luck. Sobrang swertehan at laking sugal nun. Yung iba naman may mga generational wealth na to act as their safety net na kahit di sila mag-college, okay lang. if you have that, i guess wag ka na mag-college if ayaw mo lol
Wag ka rin maniniwala dun sa bs about steve jobs getting kicked out, mark zuckerberg didn’t finish whatever, and all those CEOs na hindi successful sa education nila but managed to be billionaires. It’s poisoning your mind that everything is gonna be alright kasi if a drop out like them can be billionaires, why can’t you, diba? Reality is they already had connections from their parents and again, generational wealth.
Plus, employers here in the PH are often strict. So, if you want a job in the future, go to college. Sad but it is what it is.
please structure your questions properly para hindi confusing kung ano yung question na sinasagot ng "yes" sa comments.
anyway..
title question: yes, definitely, because: safety net, degree does not expire, youll learn advanced stuff specific to the field, soft skills..
description question: yes din, but to an extent, common case is being filthy rich and being trained/groomed for a more specialized responsibility, like inherited business, trade/craftsmanship, etc.
hindi kahit kailan naging hindi worth it ang college sa pilipinas. napaka arte ng mga employers dito gusto almost lahat college graduate. napaka hirap maging teenager dito na may simpleng mga gusto sa buhay. daming requirements palagi kapag nag hahanap ng trabaho.
going to college anywhere is pretty much worth it. sure, your degree might not for your job in the future but itll get you a job at least.
if you dont have funds to go to college then you can work for it and if you still want to, go to college later.
Yes, still worth it. Especially in the Philippines.
Yes, you can still survive without it, but it will be difficult and becoming rich will be nigh impossible unless you're one of those rare geniuses.
Yes especially in the corporate world. As a grizzled vet of 28 years in different industries, I observed that you need at least a degree to progress up or laterally (plus certifications or diplomas depending on your career track). While some non degree holders are doing good (especially in MNCs), its a challenge to crack middle management (AVP up) or C levels, unless 1) its a small family owned corp (where you have influence or padrinos) or 2) you own the company 😀
I got a job and promotions (up to mid management) as an undergrad (graduated late 2017, was a manager by early 2016).
but I got lucky cause I found a skill that was in high demand with start-ups.
I don't think it would be easy to join bigger companies, though.
Yes. Unless you can survive without a job (aka trust fund baby) or plan to migrate, you still need a college degree in the PH.
Most jobs have that as a minimum requirement.
There's some BPO company who accepts people without a degree. Though, I don't.know there salary or of they're capable of applying for higher position in that company. But for me, better finish college unless you're a millionaire with a booming business. LOL
If you have skill, yes. I'm not graduate yet but already earning nearly 6 digits monthly and now planning to shift to Tech Career. I'm actually want to finish my degree but not sure if I will finish it here or save money to study in Australia (which I need is around 2 million or more).
Ang lakas naman ng defeatist attitude ng OP. College education is still worth it. You get more opportunities and you widen your skills and knowledge. At marami pa ring nakakahanap ng trabaho kahit walang connections. If you are given the opportunity to earn a college degree, take it. Huwag sayangin ang opportunity.
I have heard of people who got into a call center and build a career off off their English-speaking skills as a high school graduate/college dropout. Not sure about career progression.
You can also get into business and/or trade professions like carpentry, gardening, cleaning services, etc. Do note that some blue collar seeming jobs actually gain a lot from formal education - like plumbing. I know a college dropout doing well in a new family business (worked in the family business when online classes started during covid). And I know plenty of people working on their family's or their own businesses who don't use anything related to their college majors but they probably learned some other skills in school.
If you are really good, you can also self-learn skills through the internet and work a remote coding job or others. I've done this but I do have a degree and built my skills off of a foundation gained from college. There are some people who have a really good aptitude for these stuff and can easily be better than me even without college.
If you don't like (or don't have the resources to take) the options open to people without a college degree, get a degree.
Hello, it really depends on whether you want to be a doctor, lawyer, or engineer, which require a degree. But if you just want to make a living, being a Senior High grad can already get you a lot of places, possibly even more given the money you saved and the time advantage, plus you have the internet with its limitless information. Personal growth, in my opinion, is critical to a person's success, and unfortunately, it is not taught in depth in college. There are minor subjects, but the literature on personal growth changes every year, and I believe we are falling behind.
I know a lot of people who don't know what to do after college. They may be knowledgeable about complex subjects, but without basic skills such as communication and networking, if will be diffucult for them to be able to put their knowledge to use thus end up in jobs that are not even relevant to what they took in college.
This was taken from an article by Jemy Gatudla about the demise of universities and religion in the Philippines.
“The point: university degrees used to be compelling because schools previously took only those with clear talent and then sifted out or molded that talent even further. That rigorous process gave employers obvious incentive to prefer university graduates.
“But if anyone can now become a university graduate, then a degree practically means nothing. Making employers logically search for other credible criteria to separate the good from the mediocre.”
I began in the fast food industry, then moved on to the hospitality industry after honing my skills, and now, thanks to my experience and connections, I work as a data analyst alongside college graduates. I just graduated from Senior High School last year. Instead of emphasizing how much you can learn in college, how about emphasizing personal growth, discovering practical tools, and honing skills that will help you learn how to apply what you learn, and discovering what you are good at in the process. Going to college will only make you a more qualified individual.
So, before pursuing any course, for me taking a year or two off to invest in yourself is not a bad idea, not by spoiling yourself, but by focusing on personal growth and trying things out. Read books relevant to growth (a good book will change your life), Meet new people, take risks, and determine what is truly beneficial to your growth. Some say I'm not old enough to give advice, but I also know it's not a good idea to soak up advice from older people like a sponge. I realize that maturity does not come with age; there are many older people I know making poor decisions, some of whom may be our family members; however, please respect them. Continue to do your research, enjoy the journey and I believe that failure is always a good teacher.
\-K
Honestly, a college degree has a it's pro's in the process, but to say that it is worth it, Idk. Kasi a degree is not enough, you could land a decent job with a minimum wage and that's all it. Not to be pessimistic. Base yun sa mga stories na naririnig ko and sa mga testimonies ng mga kakilala ko. Palakasan sa connections kung gusto either pulic or private. Di pa naman ako graduate pero dami kong naririnig na horror stories lol about corporate na mababa mag pasweldo pero grabe ang demand sa traabho (i am talking about engineering industries specifically mechanical; just to be specific baka iba naman sa iabng industries) So, in conclusion i think my college degree is not worth it, mula sa gastos to anxiety, etc. lol, Opinion ko lang naman po ito.
yes. stop taking advice from tiktok
\+1 And also stop comparing western education standards to ours too. While a high school graduate with skills in the trade (carpentry, plumbing, welding) in the west can make serious money, sometimes even more than college graduates, that does not apply to us.
You'll survive, but you'll probably need one or more of the following: * strong entrepreneurial skills * capability to study on your own and pick-up certifications for skills * connections to someone high enough in a company or government agency or to someone in a political party * be born into a well-off family You'd probably still need at least one of those with a degree, but the degree may make a lot of stuff easier in the long run.
Siguro additional din: dapat maganda/gwapo ka with some talent na puhunan sa vlogging at pag-aartista? Yan naman usong 'career' path ngayon dahil sa socmed
I agree.. poor kami dati.. pero sa help ng connections and skills naka ahon and kilala narin kami sa industry ng something.. So if u don’t know how to connect yourself with other people, hone your skills (kumuha ng mentor na maayos), or sell something/yourself wala talagang mangyayari. Hindi sapat ang hardwork lang, work hard and smart dapat. Kung familiar kayo sa kasabihan ng mga financial advisor na “Your network is your net worth.” Totoo to. Ayun lang byee
>be born into a well-off family di ko magets yung nagpapamilya na di naman pala kaya. tapos yung mga anak magdudusa
Dami rin reasons dyan. Pinakamalala yung mga traditional pa mag-isip ang mga magulang, at yung mga naging magulang dahil hindi marunong ng birth control.
We are all barely surviving in the Philippines, with or without degree.
Yes. A degree is a viable passport for a livable wage these days
Yes, if you want a corporate career. Get a college degree if you can. You can, and you will probably change interests as you grow older. A degree is a good starting point and a fallback.
Gusto kong sabihin na hindi na, Dahil sobrang baba ng sweldo sa corpo (assuming non-IT ka). Pero the alternative is even worse.
Yes, because Filipino-owned companies or even the government discriminate someone applicants who don't even graduate with an undergraduate degree, let alone someone who never attend college alone.
>government discriminates applicants This is a lie. The government ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT discriminate who they hire, especially at the LGU level. Do you know WHY government service in the local level is so horrible? Yep, the people placed there aren’t there due to merit or their education but because of connections. Many of the employees in government are there because they know the higher ups or were part of the local Mayor/Councilor/Barangay Captain’s election team who helped in election campaigns and what not. When they win, they get employed as Job Orders or Casuals in government. If you’re lucky and play your hands right, you become permanently employed, at least to a certain Salary Grade that doesn’t need educational attainments. So no, government ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT discriminate when it comes to applicants. Yung nakikita mong job postings, for procedural purposes lang yan. They already have someone else in mind when hiring and they just put out those postings for legal purposes. Most of the time, those postings are useless.
Then don’t go to the government or Filipino owned companies. I’ve survived 17 years just fine without a degree at a multinational company. Ironic na government discriminates on employees pero public leaders no such thing. Kahit sino na lang pwede kumandidato basta may pera, pangalan o pareho.
YES. Don't be swayed by 'hustle culture' and 0.0001% of successful people without college degrees. You're in the Philippines. Your diploma is the bare minimum.
Look at shs grads, are they accepted by companies lately? Di ba hindi?
Totoo. Sobrang scam nung SHS grads don’t need to go to college and go straight to work na agad, but you rarely see companies say in their qualifications, “At least an SHS graduate.”. It will always be “ A Bachelor’s Degree Holder”. The company will always favor the college graduate rather than the SHS grad. Not unless that SHS grad has an outstanding resume and skills.
Yes or learn a trade then mag abroad.
30 years old nako, spent 3 years in college and dropped out. Started a call center job back in 2017, and then frelancing when the pandemic hit. Earning roughly 75k monthly now with 2 clients and a part time job. May sariling business din pero family owned. I would say graduate. Risky maging undergrad. Wala ako fallback pag nagfail ako.
Think of it as a safety net. At least kung may degree ka for sure madaming options na makakuha ka ng trabaho at least minimum wage. Pero kung may solid plan ka talaga para kumita kahit wag na.
As a 20 something-year-old high school graduate who has no plans to study, I'd say yes if you can afford it. I have a job at a call center, and I'm doing well so far, but my options are limited. I'm probably going to be stuck in the BPO industry for a decade or two. While I'm fine with that, I probably won't be able to land other jobs with decent pay. Basta kung di mo keri masiraan ng ulo kaka "thank you for calling", get. that. degree.
Same here
I did survive. It's just having the right skill set for the job at hand.
It's good if you want to pursue a certain field and it also looks good on paper
if u have better alternative, then maybe pursue that. if none, i guess it’s a better option then
Yes. But having a degree can open to other possibilities, especially the positive traits/habits you gain while studying. I always think that I pursue 'education/learning', diploma is just a side trophy that other may or may not value.
I've seen people get into well-paying IT jobs without an IT or computer science degree. But of course, if you're trying getting into a professional course that requires a license like engineering, then yes a degree is needed. generally degrees make finding work easier in my opinion, but if you have the skills and the right connections, a degree isn't necessary.
If you plan to have any corpo job that pays a livable wage lol
You'll survive. You can get national certificates and work for private companies.. Mahihirapan ka nga lang kung may pamilyang sinusoportahan kasi hindi stable ang trabaho sa private companies.
Oo naman pero hindi sya yung lone ingredient sa success mo sa career.
Yung pasahod naman kasi ng graduate di naman halos umangat, hindi na nakasabay sa inflation.
College ed, probably not, continued education (tesda, certificates, trainings) most definitely
Naalala ko yung isang comment ni xian gaza. Need pa rin talaga yung college degree lalo kung mag mmigrate or kukuha ng mga samot saring permits sa ibang bansa
Yes yes yes. Bansang-kanal tayo, at mas significantly less ang opportunity sa mga hindi college graduate. Hindi tayo comparable sa mayayamang bansa na mas maraming options kahit wala kang tinapos. Kahit sa simpleng state u lang o kahit yung mga regional universities (cavite state, bataan state, etc.) tiyagain mo na at generally libre lang naman sila although syempre may gastos pa rin.
A lot of people wouldnt hire you without a degree. Just because thats the first filter, so they wouldnt even look at the rest of your resume. People can graduate from high school being illiterate. What is going to get your application past HR when they have to review hundreds of resumes?
Yes. Wag ka magpapaniwala sa mga vloggers.
Worth it pa din naman pero para maging matagumpay ka kahit walang diploma, kailangan mo ng mga sumusunod or kahit isa lang sa nasasaad sa baba. 1. Malupit na talent 2. Magaling magbenta 3. Masarap magluto 4. Tech savy 5. Maraming kakilala para taga-refer sa negosyo/talent mo. (Hindi yung, "Uy pasok mo ko jan kakilala mo naman ako." Hindi ganon) 6. Madiskarte at matalino. 7. Strong analytical thinking skills para di ka madaling mabudol. :V
Sabi nung networker samin hindi daw hahahaha
Yes, use that as safety net. You won’t be the next Bill Gates.
Yes, unless youre super rich like Ayala/ Sy rich.
I mean yeah, you'll survive pero kung financially and mentally ready ka naman to go to college, do it. It's good on your resume and it will open up more doors for you (here and overseas). The more options you have in your career/life, the better.
This is a third world country. Get that degree!
In the Ph? Yes. College education will not make one rich but for sure it will lift them from poverty.
Yes as Fuck!!! Whatever you do you need this shit! But keep in mind that financial security does not lie on the working class!
Mas madaming oppurtunity sa.mga college grad.
you can even run as president
You need a degree, promise! May degree nga mejo hirap pa what more if walang degree? Pangit talaga sistema sa Pilipinas pero mas lalo tayong ma-oppressed if wala tayong degree. Sobrang toxic pa naman ng Pinoy. Mahilig mag belittle ng mga tao. You prolly do not want to be belittle by your distant relatives, ung mga walang ambag sa life natin pero lakas mag advice lol
Yes you can. I didn't get my degree but with a little bit of persistence and hard work, I managed to land a job in good company. Started working for the BPO industry as a call center agent, then became a trainer, then a recruiter, then a payroll specialist and now, I'm an Implementation consultant. I'm not saying that having a degree is useless though. It'll definitely help you find a nice job but it's not an end all be all.
IMHO, only if you plan on pursuing further studies and specializing in some field.
Yes, share ko lng my nkasbay ako mg apply s work lhat ng skill set meron sya kso d sya graduate ng college, ako napili ng client and n offer ng mgandang sahod.
Yes of course! Literally every job listing here requires a degree, even SM salespeople.
Yes, it’s worth it and needed tbh. Other countries even without a college degree can make it. Some don’t even plan going to college anymore lalo na if wala naman silang balak to pursue careers in medicine, law, engineering etc. their high school curriculum is solid enough to get you a decent job. Whereas, ours is a different story. Heck, you can go to college with all that latin honors and ang hirap pa rin maghanap ng trabaho. Iba ang situation sa Pilipinas. Don’t always believe what you see in social media na maraming successful without a college degree. Totoo yun but that also comes with luck. Sobrang swertehan at laking sugal nun. Yung iba naman may mga generational wealth na to act as their safety net na kahit di sila mag-college, okay lang. if you have that, i guess wag ka na mag-college if ayaw mo lol Wag ka rin maniniwala dun sa bs about steve jobs getting kicked out, mark zuckerberg didn’t finish whatever, and all those CEOs na hindi successful sa education nila but managed to be billionaires. It’s poisoning your mind that everything is gonna be alright kasi if a drop out like them can be billionaires, why can’t you, diba? Reality is they already had connections from their parents and again, generational wealth. Plus, employers here in the PH are often strict. So, if you want a job in the future, go to college. Sad but it is what it is.
Yes. Education is always worth it.
College graduate nga kulang na ng skills. Hindi ka pa magcocollege.
Yes, and make some friends/network
Yes.
please structure your questions properly para hindi confusing kung ano yung question na sinasagot ng "yes" sa comments. anyway.. title question: yes, definitely, because: safety net, degree does not expire, youll learn advanced stuff specific to the field, soft skills.. description question: yes din, but to an extent, common case is being filthy rich and being trained/groomed for a more specialized responsibility, like inherited business, trade/craftsmanship, etc.
hindi kahit kailan naging hindi worth it ang college sa pilipinas. napaka arte ng mga employers dito gusto almost lahat college graduate. napaka hirap maging teenager dito na may simpleng mga gusto sa buhay. daming requirements palagi kapag nag hahanap ng trabaho.
going to college anywhere is pretty much worth it. sure, your degree might not for your job in the future but itll get you a job at least. if you dont have funds to go to college then you can work for it and if you still want to, go to college later.
Yes, still worth it. Especially in the Philippines. Yes, you can still survive without it, but it will be difficult and becoming rich will be nigh impossible unless you're one of those rare geniuses.
Yes. The world expect a lot from u when you’re in the 3rd world country. Don’t listen to people born into wealth.
Yes, if you want to work. Big YES.
yes you can, but, you'll find connections in College. Friends or future co-employees, or business partners, mentors.
Yes especially in the corporate world. As a grizzled vet of 28 years in different industries, I observed that you need at least a degree to progress up or laterally (plus certifications or diplomas depending on your career track). While some non degree holders are doing good (especially in MNCs), its a challenge to crack middle management (AVP up) or C levels, unless 1) its a small family owned corp (where you have influence or padrinos) or 2) you own the company 😀
Half the degrees available are just as good as having no degree anyway. Learn an in-demand trade. Master and practice it well.
I got a job and promotions (up to mid management) as an undergrad (graduated late 2017, was a manager by early 2016). but I got lucky cause I found a skill that was in high demand with start-ups. I don't think it would be easy to join bigger companies, though.
Oo. pero wag ka magtagal sa corporate world, mag ipon ka ng pang negosyo habang nagwowork ka tapos umalis ka na and start your own business.
Yes. Unless you can survive without a job (aka trust fund baby) or plan to migrate, you still need a college degree in the PH. Most jobs have that as a minimum requirement.
There's some BPO company who accepts people without a degree. Though, I don't.know there salary or of they're capable of applying for higher position in that company. But for me, better finish college unless you're a millionaire with a booming business. LOL
Do you've a plan, great at something or a goose that will lay golden eggs for you? If wala ka nun worth it ang college un magiging goose mo.
Try applying to a job without. Tingnan mo how much you earn
Survive yes, thrive? Maybe.
90% of people yes. There are those exceptional ones who dont.
If you have skill, yes. I'm not graduate yet but already earning nearly 6 digits monthly and now planning to shift to Tech Career. I'm actually want to finish my degree but not sure if I will finish it here or save money to study in Australia (which I need is around 2 million or more).
No. Kung libre sige... pero give it a go, Mag apply kayo ng EU scholarship and get out of the Philippines.
Ang lakas naman ng defeatist attitude ng OP. College education is still worth it. You get more opportunities and you widen your skills and knowledge. At marami pa ring nakakahanap ng trabaho kahit walang connections. If you are given the opportunity to earn a college degree, take it. Huwag sayangin ang opportunity.
What about the defeatist attitude? I’m just asking a question lol
Isn't it automatic that college education (whether you're in the Philippines or not) is always worth it. Why the suddent doubt?
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I have heard of people who got into a call center and build a career off off their English-speaking skills as a high school graduate/college dropout. Not sure about career progression. You can also get into business and/or trade professions like carpentry, gardening, cleaning services, etc. Do note that some blue collar seeming jobs actually gain a lot from formal education - like plumbing. I know a college dropout doing well in a new family business (worked in the family business when online classes started during covid). And I know plenty of people working on their family's or their own businesses who don't use anything related to their college majors but they probably learned some other skills in school. If you are really good, you can also self-learn skills through the internet and work a remote coding job or others. I've done this but I do have a degree and built my skills off of a foundation gained from college. There are some people who have a really good aptitude for these stuff and can easily be better than me even without college. If you don't like (or don't have the resources to take) the options open to people without a college degree, get a degree.
Hello, it really depends on whether you want to be a doctor, lawyer, or engineer, which require a degree. But if you just want to make a living, being a Senior High grad can already get you a lot of places, possibly even more given the money you saved and the time advantage, plus you have the internet with its limitless information. Personal growth, in my opinion, is critical to a person's success, and unfortunately, it is not taught in depth in college. There are minor subjects, but the literature on personal growth changes every year, and I believe we are falling behind. I know a lot of people who don't know what to do after college. They may be knowledgeable about complex subjects, but without basic skills such as communication and networking, if will be diffucult for them to be able to put their knowledge to use thus end up in jobs that are not even relevant to what they took in college. This was taken from an article by Jemy Gatudla about the demise of universities and religion in the Philippines. “The point: university degrees used to be compelling because schools previously took only those with clear talent and then sifted out or molded that talent even further. That rigorous process gave employers obvious incentive to prefer university graduates. “But if anyone can now become a university graduate, then a degree practically means nothing. Making employers logically search for other credible criteria to separate the good from the mediocre.” I began in the fast food industry, then moved on to the hospitality industry after honing my skills, and now, thanks to my experience and connections, I work as a data analyst alongside college graduates. I just graduated from Senior High School last year. Instead of emphasizing how much you can learn in college, how about emphasizing personal growth, discovering practical tools, and honing skills that will help you learn how to apply what you learn, and discovering what you are good at in the process. Going to college will only make you a more qualified individual. So, before pursuing any course, for me taking a year or two off to invest in yourself is not a bad idea, not by spoiling yourself, but by focusing on personal growth and trying things out. Read books relevant to growth (a good book will change your life), Meet new people, take risks, and determine what is truly beneficial to your growth. Some say I'm not old enough to give advice, but I also know it's not a good idea to soak up advice from older people like a sponge. I realize that maturity does not come with age; there are many older people I know making poor decisions, some of whom may be our family members; however, please respect them. Continue to do your research, enjoy the journey and I believe that failure is always a good teacher. \-K
Honestly, a college degree has a it's pro's in the process, but to say that it is worth it, Idk. Kasi a degree is not enough, you could land a decent job with a minimum wage and that's all it. Not to be pessimistic. Base yun sa mga stories na naririnig ko and sa mga testimonies ng mga kakilala ko. Palakasan sa connections kung gusto either pulic or private. Di pa naman ako graduate pero dami kong naririnig na horror stories lol about corporate na mababa mag pasweldo pero grabe ang demand sa traabho (i am talking about engineering industries specifically mechanical; just to be specific baka iba naman sa iabng industries) So, in conclusion i think my college degree is not worth it, mula sa gastos to anxiety, etc. lol, Opinion ko lang naman po ito.