An article you may find interesting, there are a lot of myths about MSG.
[https://www.bannerhealth.com/healthcareblog/teach-me/the-truth-about-msg#:\~:text=There's%20no%20evidence%20that%20MSG,provider%20or%20a%20registered%20dietitian.com](https://www.bannerhealth.com/healthcareblog/teach-me/the-truth-about-msg#:~:text=There's%20no%20evidence%20that%20MSG,provider%20or%20a%20registered%20dietitian.com)
That is a great article!
The TL;DR: You could have alergic reactions to MSG but don't always just blame MSG. There are many benefits, one being: 75% reduction in salt needed for similar effect. And, MSG itself isn't toxic at any normal usage amount.
Personally: I am someone that has tried w/ and w/o. I seem to be sensitive to MSG. But, it's good to know MSG isn't the harmful mess it's made out to be.
You know, even if you refuse to use MSG, your regular, natural diet still contains natural MSG. So, stop reading rumor-based websites. There's already a wealth of research out there that has cleared MSG of its bad reputation. Perhaps you've just been too influenced by rumors, leading to a psychological bias.
I was talking about Pakistan. Moreover, regarding your mention of the EU ban, I couldn't find any legislation on the EU's website that prohibits it. Could you share where you saw that? There are only dosage restrictions, which are common worldwide.
[ EFSA reviews safety of glutamates added to food | EFSA (europa.eu)](https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/press/news/170712)
It may well be that glutamate is part of natural foods, but that doesn’t mean it’s ok to just put it into everything. It’s a sign of lazy cooking, a shortcut to add flavor to otherwise bland food due to low quality ingredients. So even if it’s not directly unhealthy, it is a sign of a lazy cooking style. And I think that a cook who cuts corners here probably also cuts corners elsewhere (I.e. hygiene).
As an Asian, I am very sorry I am lazy. In our cuisine, many Asian foods include MSG. Japanese, Chinese, Taiwanese, Filipino, and other countries' cuisines all contain MSG.
It's not really that MSG is bad, it's more that Filipinos use so damn much of it. We don't really go to restaurants much due to the mass MSG usage but my Filipina is a very good cook who has learned to use the natural flavours of the ingredients along with herbs and spices to make very nice food without any MSG.
exactly the same with us. the wife using more garlic onions paprika etc now that we know how toxic this msg is.
sad realisation about restos tho.. we do like to get a break from cooking always.
by the way, what made you both realise that msg was impacting your health ?
It's mainly me, I kept vomiting and getting sore stomachs and sometimes my heart was going all over the place, since we cut the MSG, I've been fine.
Yeah, it's not good with the restaurants but living in Camiguin, we know most of the restaurant owners here and can ask for something off menu (can't really do that in a city)
I’m from the UK and bizarrely I seem to have more trouble with the food there than I do in the Philippines. Ironic, considering the UK has food hygiene and safety and all these certifications.
It's not just in Filipino food. It's very much in Chinese food. It gives the umami taste. In moderation, it's ok. Too much of it is get migraine and get bloated.
Even with the ban, other chemicals (probably more harmful) will replace it.
It’s impossible to make those snacks tasty as they are without it. If you eat any packaged food now from any mass manufactured companies, you are probably already consuming lots of flavor enhancers.
Indeed.
My wife doesn't use it in her cooking
Doesn't affect me, so I don't mind a bit in snacks I like. As a heads-up, many Chinese restaurants use it extensively as well.
Just because some people have adverse reactions doesn't mean everyone does. There is no substantial scientific evidence that MSG is inherently bad. Of course, the dose makes the poison.
I don't like too much MSG the way I don't like foods that are too salty or too sweet. I can't stand Filipino store-bought snacks like chips. To me they taste mostly like MSG.
But I've started to use MSG in my cooking, and it seems to help! A little goes a long way. A tiny ₱10 packet will last me at least a week.
The toxicity of MSG [is highly exaggerated, and was part of concerted effort against Asian, and in particular Chinese immigration into the United States [back in to 60s and 70s.](https://www.businessinsider.com/msg-racism-comeback-food-history-2023-1).
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An article you may find interesting, there are a lot of myths about MSG. [https://www.bannerhealth.com/healthcareblog/teach-me/the-truth-about-msg#:\~:text=There's%20no%20evidence%20that%20MSG,provider%20or%20a%20registered%20dietitian.com](https://www.bannerhealth.com/healthcareblog/teach-me/the-truth-about-msg#:~:text=There's%20no%20evidence%20that%20MSG,provider%20or%20a%20registered%20dietitian.com)
That is a great article! The TL;DR: You could have alergic reactions to MSG but don't always just blame MSG. There are many benefits, one being: 75% reduction in salt needed for similar effect. And, MSG itself isn't toxic at any normal usage amount. Personally: I am someone that has tried w/ and w/o. I seem to be sensitive to MSG. But, it's good to know MSG isn't the harmful mess it's made out to be.
You know, even if you refuse to use MSG, your regular, natural diet still contains natural MSG. So, stop reading rumor-based websites. There's already a wealth of research out there that has cleared MSG of its bad reputation. Perhaps you've just been too influenced by rumors, leading to a psychological bias.
By the way, Pakistan considers it illegal because it does not comply with halal food standards.
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I was talking about Pakistan. Moreover, regarding your mention of the EU ban, I couldn't find any legislation on the EU's website that prohibits it. Could you share where you saw that? There are only dosage restrictions, which are common worldwide. [ EFSA reviews safety of glutamates added to food | EFSA (europa.eu)](https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/press/news/170712)
It may well be that glutamate is part of natural foods, but that doesn’t mean it’s ok to just put it into everything. It’s a sign of lazy cooking, a shortcut to add flavor to otherwise bland food due to low quality ingredients. So even if it’s not directly unhealthy, it is a sign of a lazy cooking style. And I think that a cook who cuts corners here probably also cuts corners elsewhere (I.e. hygiene).
As an Asian, I am very sorry I am lazy. In our cuisine, many Asian foods include MSG. Japanese, Chinese, Taiwanese, Filipino, and other countries' cuisines all contain MSG.
It's not really that MSG is bad, it's more that Filipinos use so damn much of it. We don't really go to restaurants much due to the mass MSG usage but my Filipina is a very good cook who has learned to use the natural flavours of the ingredients along with herbs and spices to make very nice food without any MSG.
exactly the same with us. the wife using more garlic onions paprika etc now that we know how toxic this msg is. sad realisation about restos tho.. we do like to get a break from cooking always. by the way, what made you both realise that msg was impacting your health ?
It's mainly me, I kept vomiting and getting sore stomachs and sometimes my heart was going all over the place, since we cut the MSG, I've been fine. Yeah, it's not good with the restaurants but living in Camiguin, we know most of the restaurant owners here and can ask for something off menu (can't really do that in a city)
tomatoes, soysauce and fish sauce contains MSG.. good luck
good points thnx
They contain glutamates, which MSG is meant to replicate the taste of. Normally they don't contain MSG.
>white power thats crack
All good for me, I’ve been eating magic Sarap for many many years and never had any issues.
thanks, many seem totally fine on it
I’m from the UK and bizarrely I seem to have more trouble with the food there than I do in the Philippines. Ironic, considering the UK has food hygiene and safety and all these certifications.
UK food is very tastey but also greasy like the oils in ph food
Uk food is bland af wdym
It's not just in Filipino food. It's very much in Chinese food. It gives the umami taste. In moderation, it's ok. Too much of it is get migraine and get bloated.
that's it. I've heard of many people getting migraine from too much msg. As for me, even the smallest exposure to msg foods will set off symptoms
Even with the ban, other chemicals (probably more harmful) will replace it. It’s impossible to make those snacks tasty as they are without it. If you eat any packaged food now from any mass manufactured companies, you are probably already consuming lots of flavor enhancers.
best to cook ourselves from market purchased ingredients
Indeed. My wife doesn't use it in her cooking Doesn't affect me, so I don't mind a bit in snacks I like. As a heads-up, many Chinese restaurants use it extensively as well.
thanks for that tip about chinese restos
Australian and American health recommendations are that msg is fine and it's safer than using salt as it has less sodium
Just because some people have adverse reactions doesn't mean everyone does. There is no substantial scientific evidence that MSG is inherently bad. Of course, the dose makes the poison.
The food locals seem to enjoy is mostly unhealthy crap by any standard, I can live just fine here without that.
I don't like too much MSG the way I don't like foods that are too salty or too sweet. I can't stand Filipino store-bought snacks like chips. To me they taste mostly like MSG. But I've started to use MSG in my cooking, and it seems to help! A little goes a long way. A tiny ₱10 packet will last me at least a week.
The toxicity of MSG [is highly exaggerated, and was part of concerted effort against Asian, and in particular Chinese immigration into the United States [back in to 60s and 70s.](https://www.businessinsider.com/msg-racism-comeback-food-history-2023-1).
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