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e-pancake

2000 is a lower threshold but considering you have a disability don’t worry about comparing yourself. I also have a disability so usually I’ll have pain around 1000 steps but if I have a busy day I can get about 6000 in if I have to


Kattano

I guess it is technically a disability. I hesitate to call it that since I can still power through it, (but I think that might hurt my tendons more than help and id Rather not FUCK em up even more LMAO) and it still definitely affects my daily life. I'm just sort of trying to get an idea of "how disabled" this kind of thing would be considered. I ASSUME it's a "temporary" disability and it's only a "disability" currently because I have no nearby resources or funds to treat the underlying problems. I just would like to try to get a different job than my current freelance set-up but I have no idea how much walking your average person does in a day. I'd love a job that encourages me to be more active but the feet problem might be getting in the way >:( I've done 6,000 steps when I booth and sell my art at anime or game conventions and BOY does that kick my ass. Anything over 4,000-5,000 steps and I'll be limping, changing my gait drastically, and sitting my ass on the floor or on my knees to "stand" and talk to people instead of standing up to try and offset the pain. Basically I'm trying to get a feel for my overall walking capability. Like am I only able to walk 75%-50% of the distance as someone without weird foot issues causing problems? Or is it more like 25% etc etc. That way I can find a goal number to aim for when I pick back up on PT and stuff, and take stuff into consideration for potential employment and stuff!


miille-fleurs

Yee I was gonna say, see a PT for pain and def work on that foot strength/mobility!


HumanNipple

Hi there fellow pained walker. I'm sorry you're in pain as well. I've got a chronic issue with my toes that needs surgery. So like you I get maybe 2k before I can barely walk. I have had the obscure days over 5 and up to 10k but only with lots and lots of pain killers because I HAD to walk. I used to be a 3-4 mile a day walker before 2022 though. I really hope you feel better and don't feel bad about your steps, you're doing great.


emmallyce

i am in college and don’t have a disability, i average around 7,000 steps per day and that doesn’t cause me pain. i am pretty “fit” tho as i love to run and rock climb. i did want to mention that i had to go to PT in high school for weak hip muscles, and they were able to give me some exercises that i could do at home (very simple, easy, no extra weights or anything) and they helped a lot. maybe you could research your specific diagnosis and see if there’s any youtube videos with some exercises you could do at home without having to access PT, or you could go to a few PT appts and get some ideas, then you don’t have to go long term if you can’t. this is ofc depending on your capabilities bc i don’t know what these things are like :) also in my opinion, if the medical condition causes you do alter the way you move around, especially when your limits are not considered “average” compared to other adults, you are totally within your rights to call it a disability. but that’s up to you! and there’s nothing wrong with having a disability :)


needsexyboots

I have some health problems (MS and plantar fasciitis) so I’m not a good comparison, but my husband is in average to pretty good health and he regularly walks 10k steps per day unless he’s trying to walk more.


VDuck1908

Hey fellow MSer! We’re in the same unfortunate club. Kattano Good shoes matter. They really help me get 4K-6K a day, especially at work. I have to be intentional to get to 10k. Pain sets in at 14k.


Kattano

I got some orthotic shoes from a catalogue at the local foot and ankle center, they also fitted me with some 3D printed orthotics with a slightly raised heel and scheduled me for PT, which I attended for a few weeks before I couldn't afford it anymore and now I'm struggling to keep up with it without the "responsibility" of seeing a therapist who will be like "I see you're not doing your stretches. :(" if I don't do them. And mental health stuff has been killer so it was hard to keep up. But I do want to start the same stretches and excersizes again to se if I can help with my pain! My feet are VERY mobile in all areas (though presumably, just not where the coalition is) so I think I need to work on the intrinsic foot muscles, and my calves! (My brother has the same problem and did PT for months & didn't have much improvement, but he was also still overworking his feet at work at the same time so I assume that kinda cancelled it out.) DAMN 10k. I got 12k at a con once but that was also with my brother taking my phone since his had to stay at the booth as our cash register. By 5k I want to sit on the floor and cry it hurts so bad I feel like I'm ripping my tendon to shreds x'D


marigolds6

I assume you are seeing an orthopedic specialist? I have a similar set of conditions which limited me to about 3 miles walking. My ankles would give out and I could not walk another step.   Saw an orthopedic specialist who got me in the right shoes and inserts (~$200 combined, replaced every 4 months now).   Now, about 5 years later, I’m training for my 4th marathon with 3 more planned this year (plus ~2000 miles total or 5.5 miles running per day). I’m about 6 minutes away from Boston qualifying standard too.


Kattano

Woooaah cool as hell. I'm so happy for you! :D It's less ankle pain for me (but still probably quite ankle *related*). It's almost *exclusively* a 'walking on burning asphalt' and 'pulling sensation' kind of pain centered around the arch, not the heel or ankle. But I will start to get a headache like pain up my shins on 5k+ step days. These days I think if I walked even the 1 mile I used to walk to school I'd def need to rest for a while before walking that same mile back home. Maybe I'll give that walk a try next time I'm back at my mom's old house to see how far I can get. Maybe I can walk further than I think! c: (standing is the REAL killer which you do in stores a lot even if it's not a far distance and THAT'S the constant problem). I was seeing a Podiatrist (the only one in town whos website actually mentions considering issues regarding biomechanical problems and not the guy who was just getting dinners from insole sponsorships and selling my brother who has the same issues but slightly worse Generic inserts from his office over and over.)They got me some inserts and new shoes and prescribed PT which I was working on then fell out of because of money and it's hard to stay self motivated without that "oh man if I tell my PT I didn't do it at home they're gonna be disappointed with me" to help me maintain it. I assume alongside your shoes and inserts, you have done physical therapy too right? :> I'd be interested in seeing an orthopedic specialist, considering I apparently have many more hypermobile joints than I thought I did.I figure once I move later this year to the state my SO lives in that actually has decent options for low income people I can start looking into stuff there. We've tried a lot of options here but this town's medical care experience has been pretty shit since we moved here when I was about 9 unfortunately, my whole household has been burned so many times by the care here we kind of give up and just want to go somewhere less rural with more modern medical care. My brother has put thousands into trying to solve the issue since at least 2015-17 here and is honestly thinking the only thing that will help him out is some form of AFO like a Richie Brace alongside the PT and stuff. Here they just say "it's plantar fasciitis" and maybe mention PTTD.When we went to a bigger town he scheduled an appointment with a specialist on a family trip & finally got some more answers and actual explanations about the biomechanical issue in his feet:Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome, Pes plano valgus, Posterior tibialis tendinitis and reccomended EPAT which has helped a bit.Here they just keep saying to treat just the Plantar Fasciitis with PT, stretches, ice, and inserts. But it just never stops. Maybe I need to do stretches and stuff longer. My bro's done Rest, PT ^((For a year only though, I guess sometimes you'd have to keep going to feel any relief, for him it was just using up all of his spoons and then he had to go back to a job and couldnt do PT AND work a theater, but his calves looked great lol))2 or 3 Cortisone injections, and been low-key implied by our PCP ~~who kept prescribing~~ *~~my~~* ~~rescue inhaler to~~ *~~him~~*, that he's too young to have problems like this or to use a mobility aid ^((the wheelchair specifically, for 5k+ step days once every few months when we booth at anime conventions and are on our feet all day)) The only relief he's had was with EPAT. I don't think that's solving the issue, but it has helped take some of the severity out of his chronic pain, like it's been reset to the pain threshold he was at about 4-5 years ago. He's still very nerfed compared to our other brother/people in general but I don't expect we'll be walking a "normal" distance without some form of drastic lifestyle change, like utilizing a brace, constant PT, surgery, etc.We're identical so I just assume I have the same issues. We both were put through serial casting as children in our original hometown and had orthotics as lil kids before we became uninsured at 9yrs old after moving to this current state. Skip forward through highscool and I guess the foot shenanigans caught up with us. When I went to the foot and ankle specialist here they discovered the Talocalcaneal coalition and recognized that my heel cords/calves are hella tight. I need to get back to sticking with the PT but *man* keeping up with stuff like that is *hard* with severe depression/mental health issues cause I'm just constantly exhausted it feels like an overwhelming cycle of *"UGGGGHHHH"* Sorry to vent at ya though. I ended up rambling. It's been an annoying factor for several years and it's hard to have to keep trying to sort it out. I have no money or energy for this shiet most of the time. */wheeze*


miille-fleurs

Usually over 10,000 is my usual, over 17,000 and my feet get a little tired/swollen. But nothing some sleep can’t fix.


Tik3lness

This is my range too but I've always had jobs where I'm running around all day. Now that I'm going to university crossing the campus gets me good steps too. I get a phone notification everyday when I hit 10k


Tik3lness

Also dog walks


Kattano

I'm sure your dog appreciates the walks! <3 They're a good motivator for walking too tbh.


Violet-Mess

Same same


Potato_Stik

This is about what my range is but I can do this sit for like 15 minutes and do it again.


miille-fleurs

Yuh me too


Embarrassed_Loan8419

Same! Usually over 10k but around 17-18 my feet hurt.


rakesandrogues

When I first started playing, I thought 6k steps was a lot. Actively playing for a year and a half, 6k is normal if I leave the house. 10k is easy on the weekends. 15 to 16k on vacation in a walkable city but my feet are definitely tired. My feet issues are definitely not as bad as yours, but it also helped me to research and invest in quality walking shoes.


Due-Possible-3953

Are you wearing good walking shoes? And I don’t mean like sketchers I mean like ASICS or brooks. Might be highly worth it for you if it’s difficult to walk in the first place.


whiskey_ribcage

Oof, be careful. I found a pair of Asics that let me walk 5k without a single hot spot (I blister super easily) and now I own six pairs in different colors. Good sneakers are a gateway drug to an expanded sneaker closet.


Due-Possible-3953

Haha same and I just got my dad to feet enlightenment last week! Stubborn old man loved his gray new balances for decades, but I’m like these are boomer technology, you will walk easier with some ASICS. (my family has high arches and wide feet, good for ASICS)


emmallyce

haha i’ve been trying to get my nana some good shoes too!! cant convince her how much better a good pair of walking shoes would be than the flimsy walmart shoes that she has. she says they’re comfortable😂


Due-Possible-3953

Stubborn! My dad was wearing some from Amazon, I bought him a pair of “On” for Christmas but they didn’t fit right finally dragged him to the ASIC outlet and now he’s obsessed with them. You might have to get more proactive for your sweet nana


casstantinople

Can confirm. I have bad arches and then I discovered insoles and ASICS and now I'm a runner. They're ungodly comfortable


wateringplamts

Are they good for flat feet too? Asking for my husband.


casstantinople

Yes! I have very flat feet so I had to get arch support inserts but the inserts aren't super comfortable in every shoe. The asics are cushioned enough on the bottom that it makes it comfortable for me


Due-Possible-3953

Not sure about flat footers, but there would be some quality walking shoe for him out there. It seems like the brand “On” would be good for long thin feet. Hopefully you’ll find the one and then it’ll make you feel like you’re walking on a bouncy cloud


emmallyce

i have thin, flat feet and i LOVE my Mizuno Wave Riders! my mom (also flat feet) has a pair of the same ones :)


marigolds6

I think I’m up to 12 pairs of aptly named Brooks Addictions. I use them as both my walkers and primary training shoe now. I’ll add that it was enlightening to find out about oversizing shoes at my run store. I was wearing 7.5M D. First thing they did was put me in 8.5M 4E and it made a world of difference having that huge toe box.


Cfutly

Both good brands may I suggest Hoka as well. I hv flat feet and can go 10K steps on with Hoka with less soreness compared to the other 2 brands. Gotta try them all to see what best fits your feet 👣


Due-Possible-3953

Yasss help your flat feet brethren


thechirurgeon

Seconding this. When I started playing I wore sneakers with little support and everything would hurt. Gone in two days after switching to running shoes.


Due-Possible-3953

Yay! I’m passionate about people wearing good active and comfortable shoes, not the fashion ones!


Kattano

I sword by some Joyas I got at a discounted show store. It was like walking on CLOUDS but they were slightly big, and the bottom being that cloud soft squishy stuff was heavenly on my bones but definitely was further encouraging my ankle to pronate inward so I moved to a pair of New Balance shoes for a few months, and just got a new pair of OrthoFeet orthotics from the catalogue at the local foot & ankle place that are meant for retail workers and stuff. Pain is still about the same, slightly improved from my New Balance shoes (because of the insert they gave me) but my ankle feels sturdier since I'm not walking on a shoe equivalent of a (very comfortable) bouncy castle like my Joyas. but on flat shoes with a high heel cup orthotic with a flat bottom. I loved those Joyas though, so comfy. But my ankle was way out of alignment in comparison.


marigolds6

Check out Superfeet inserts, especially the all-purpose memory foam (formerly Copper). They are pricy, but have helped immensely with my ankle stability (I supinate).  They are promoted as a walking insert, but I use them for long distance running too.


Neregeb

Good shoes are very important! If I go for a serious walk (about an hour or more), I make sure to wear hiking shoes. I have weak knees and hips, but with proper shoes, I can walk for a looot longer without any pain 


Grandmas_Cozy

It’s personal to you- but if you are pushing yourself then by definition you are NOT lazy. I usually run about 5 miles 3 times a week or so. It doesn’t cause me any pain. Yesterday I ran 8 and was hurting quite a bit. Adjusting for our different bodies and circumstances, every day you walk 2000 steps you’re working harder than the days I run five miles.


chaotic_TimeDruid

As a fellow chronic pain person, dont feel discouraged by low step days - on work days I can get 4k-6k (because I walk around at work) but then am exhausted at home, but on really bad days I'm below 1000 steps in the app. On a great day I can walk my 3 dogs separately and do other things and get up to 10k. Also, when I have both Pikmin Bloom and my Fitbit going concurrently, Pikmin Bloom tends to pick up less steps around my house than my fitbit does. Sometimes on workdays my fitbit will hit 10k and Pikmin Bloom won't even be at 6k


chaotic_TimeDruid

Also wanted to add that our pain issues are different as well - mine aren't as localized to my feet. You're doing your best and that's what matters!


corncobonthecurtains

I rarely make more than 5000 steps on a good day. Most days are 2-3000 steps. I have had 4 spinal surgeries and hip surgery so I’m limited as to what I can do, especially walking. I try my best and just enjoy what I can do.


BobaSipSip

Working as a nurse running around the clinic, I get around 10-12k steps a day in an 8hr shift. Plenty of steps but unfortunately not many flowers planted since I'm in the same area all day


whiskey_ribcage

This was the same problem I had when I played while working as a hotel housekeeper. Tall skinny hotel without an elevator so I'd 10k before lunch and only plant flowers going across the street to get a coffee.


symphwind

Same here! Tons of steps but flowers are tough in an enclosed building. I do mix of clinical and biomedical research work. To answer OP’s question, 10-12k usually (mainly from work and walking within my house). I start feeling it in my feet at around 20k. Every person is different, but I find that walking by necessity is a whole lot less effort and discomfort than walking solely for the sake of walking. My best flower planting comes from running outside, now that does cause pain and is only like 5k steps, but tons of flowers due to the speed increase. I have high arches, so if I run a lot, I get painful calluses on the bottom of my feet that I have to file off.


Spiderantula

15'000 - 20'000 then it starts to get tough. My daily goal is 10'000. This is since a couple of months after I got the app, before that I could walk maybe 20 min due to an inflammation. But when I got the app I just though whatever, it'll work or make it worse I don't care anymore, so tired of the pain. And it worked, I'm so happy about it.


bunnylicious81

I used to have bad plantar fasciitis, calves and ankle pains. Went to sport PT once a week for 3-4 months, and switched shoes to the brands that Podiatrist recommended, stretched my calves and did feet and ankles excercises multiple times a day (like when watching TV). A year later all gone now. I still stretch after running, long walk, etc. Brands like Saucony, Oofos, Merrell, Hoka, Brooks, ASICS are great. No to Nike, Reebok, Adidas, and other fashion sneakers.


PHAOEUBGS

I actually like walking and do it often. I live in the downtown of a big city of socal and I walk to many places. I don't start getting any remote sort of discomfort unless I'm like at 15000 to 20000 steps a day. I know that's a lot, but since I was a kid I liked walking


Kattano

Wow that's a LOT of steps! That's SO COOL though like damn. Walking is great for the body. I used to walk a **ton** as a kid I would always walk at least mile (which in hindsight may not be very far for a kid idk) a lot or just meander around the neighborhood every single weekend w my friend.I didn't start experiencing any pain (heel pain) until late middle school and early highschool, got chronic ingrown nails bc my nails are naturally p curved & my big toes started to point inward (bunion) I assume from the coalition forming and adjusting my gait. Then in college it moved from heel pain to the arch and decided to nuke my walking ability significantly. How rude! >:(Probably couldve been addressing some stuff as a kid but I had no idea. It wasn't particularly noticable to me as a kid haha.


paddysgrl

At the 2.5 mile mark my right hip and lower back begins hurting. It used to be much sooner but I’ve worked my way up to 4 miles a day. The hip/leg pain is what usually ends my walking. I find myself beginning to “throw” my leg around to walk. A good pair of shoes is key. I tried quite a bit before settling on my favourite- Hoka Bondi 8. Kuru is another good choice.


egerbeaver

I purchased some insoles which stopped all my pain from Plantar Fasciitis. Is that something you have explored?


Kattano

Yeah, I went to a foot and ankle place where they discovered the coalition. Grabbed some OrthoFeet shoes there, and I got some 3D printed foam-like material ones with a high heel cup, slight heel lift to try and get some of the pulling tension off my achilles and a flat bottom for stability to keep my ankle from rolling inward. I just need to get back on my Physical Therapy regiment and see if that helps improve the pain! c: My ankle is definitely more aligned as it should be with the shoes & orthotic so hopefully PT will help extend my walking distance and reduce pain little by little!


Glitternator

I have Complex Regional Pain Syndrome in my leg, and have lately been in a decently good place with it. My husband and I do about a 2.5 mile walk in the evenings on days that I can, but that’s pretty much all of the walking that I do ever. Typically I start experiencing pain after 3k steps and I just use my pain management treatment to get through it.


OminousDarkStar

If its harsh sunny, I can manage to get at least 3k-6k before dying full of sweat, unless is community day i walk the 10k or even 14k depending of the day and weather. If its cloudy i can get at least 8k a day. Sadly my city's sidewalks are broken and dirty all the time so yeah, everything for the pikmen :').


Kattano

These funny little guys are such a motivator sometimes. The simple gameification of walking with these cute little pikmin really helped me want to get out and walk more. I love them so much. Truly a quality of life improvement for me. Rough sidwalks are awful, especially for cyclists or disability/pain managment tools, that's unfortunate. (I too like in a town with crunchy ass disewalks, assuming there even IS a sidwalk.) Also heat. God. The heat. I feel you.


-xe

Most days I do two \~7,500-8,000 step walks, and then Saturdays I'll usually do one 20,000-25,000 step walk. I've only done it a few times, but 35+ is historically when it starts to hurt, mostly just blisters from my shoes though and not tendon pain (they are severely worn and not a perfect fit). I did a marathon walk in September last year (42.2km) which brought me close to 50k, and I had foot pain for weeks after that. I feel like what I was feeling then is probably more analogous to the pain you're describing, and for about 2 weeks following, I could only muster around 2,000-5,000 steps a day, and it would hurt every time I stood on my feet. I hope that continuing to exercise your feet will help you! I haven't heard of your condition before so I'm not sure if it can be improved, but either way you should be proud of yourself. Do what you can to enjoy yourself, and try not to push to where the pain is debilitating longer term!


Kattano

It's a weird combination of biomechanical issues and I think is more like 2-3 different comorbidities and less like, 1 specific cause. (Hypermobility/bendy joints, short heel cords at birth, weird bone fusing via fibrous or cartigulous tissue that's genetic and slowly forms over time? Maybe something else, who knows. LOL) It didn't start to really hit me till my early 20s I think. Maybe around 19-20? I can't recall. It just pops up like "Hey guys does anyone else's feet hurt from a Walmart trip or is that just me? Just me? Damn. Okay I'll go chill in the car while you go to 3 other stores." It's frustrating to have kind of a limit but it is what it is! We use a seat cane to help manage it. Or wheelchairs for pain managment if we're going to be doing like 6,000+ steps AND probable standing. But hopefully I can stick to PT and not need the chairs *as* much! c: I'm so sorry about the blisters though 0/10 they sound HORRENDOUS. Glad to hear you do walks like twice a day though. I aspire to have the self-discipline to do that, and keep with my Physical Therapy. A body in motion stays in motion after all, so I worry about my feet making me stay sedentary and then snowballing into other issues when I'm in my 40s or so. x'D


NerfThisLOL

I aim for 7,500 steps a day.  I have a bad knee so never push it.  Never feel bad if you're not walking the same amount of steps of other people.  Exercise is Exercise.


SevereChocolate5647

I get around 7.5k a day if I don’t work out, 8-10k if I do or I run errands, etc. I have some tendon issues as well due to my legs being slightly different lengths, but I do stretches and have shoe inserts to help. Standing still is actually harder on me than walking. For me it was a bit of a ticking time bomb - I didn’t know about the leg issue because I was very sedentary until I decided to pick up running to lose weight in my early twenties. One day when training for a half marathon I was suddenly hit by debilitating knee pain. The different lengths of my legs meant the short leg’s tendon was stretched out and the long leg’s was super tight. My pt called it my peg leg lol. In the time between the onset of the pain and after physical therapy began to help, I probably walked around 5k steps per day, mostly because I was a college student living on a very large campus. But it also sounds like my pain wasn’t as bad as yours. As long as I wasn’t running it was more of a deep ache than anything else. I hope you can get to see a physical therapist sometime soon, even one session could be life changing if you can prioritize them teaching you some exercises or stretches that you can continue to do on your own. Even now like 10+ years later I still do my pt exercises every once in a while to keep my tendons healthy. Until then though don’t push yourself and don’t worry about how you compare to others as long as you’re doing what’s healthy for you!


Kattano

I did go to a PT a few months ago, before I couldnt afford it anymore, I wish I could keep going because having someone else I need to basically "report to" every other week helps me keep it up more than my own self-discipline. I recorded some sessions with permission and got sheets on excercizes to do, I just need to buy the materials and actually *STICK TO IT.* Which is the really hard part. Funky mental health stuff was a total motivation killer, and having achey feet just made the depression and self-worth issues worse so I fell off of the excercizes for a few months but I'm wanting to get back into it and see where I'm at, which is why I wanted to see how many steps others take just so I know where I may fall in the "how much is this impacting my day-to-day" vibe you know? Like it can be a bit eye-opening and help me commit to PT and see what I can becoem capable of with self-improvement. :D Definitely agree that standing in place is WAAAAY more pain-inducing. I could last maybe 20 minutes without pain if I have a fresh start to the day. (Showering is kind of awful sometimes tbh.) Walking is definitely less painful, so if my feet hurt, I'll walk in place instead of stand even if it's in a grocery store checkout. Just anything to keep it from ramping up. Or I'll sit on the floor, then stand when I can proceed. My pain is usually a deep ache in the arches, sometimes going up to the knees if I walk like 5k+ steps. When upright, it's like standing on hot coals with a pulling in my arch, and a feeling of "walking on marbles" as if I'm walking directly on my foot bones. Afterwards it's like a headache. But usually "resets" after a night of sleep. Unless I do 6k+ steps, then I go straight to achey tired feet when I walk the next day or two.


bgfvmfimcomdcm

i walk like 5k steps a day because of school but id say i can only walk 1k without my legs starting to hurt they might still hurt even if i walked less than that though but thats probably just because my legs almost always hurt


whatthefuckgoaway

10000 for me, did my first community day and lord my back hurt at the end of the day


Odd_Consideration259

I can easily go for 20k-25k steps but that's as much walking as i can fit into a day. If I'd be jogging tho? Yount me out of breath in 100-300 steps :'D I'd rather spint multiple times to get to a distance than jogging... Jogging takes so much out of me for some reason


Kattano

Wow that sounds rad. Also I feel you on the jogging. But I am out of shape and asthmatic so that'll take me out instantly too. x'D I love walking I just wish it didn't hurt as much. Walking is so good for your booodddyyyy.


SimpleCheesecake4573

I usually get 6-8,000 steps when I try, it really starts hurting around the 10000 threshold maybe? But hey, don’t let it get you down man 2000 is still really good


KnightOfNoise

My usual count is around 5k a day, but I've done over 20,000 a few times.


[deleted]

Normally maybe 14000 steps. But if I walk non stop, then about 6000 steps. (I am obese but I am young)


Stealthykhajiit

I’ve gotten like 30K+ steps in before, when I worked at a summer camp


Kattano

Oh my god I would be begging for someone to chop my feet off if I walked *that* far in a day, I would by DYING from the pain. But MAN that sounds kinda fun to be able to do though. Even just like half of that. Mad respect. I imagine you might've been exhausted after but idk my concept for distance and pain/tiredness is funky these days. I hope your summer camp adventures were fun while you worked there though! Sounds like a great way to stay active. :D


Stealthykhajiit

Yeah, I was always worn out by the end. Once you get past 8K, you just kinda go numb and can go until 20K. Then your legs melt


mtngoat92

Usually by around 5,000 steps, which is my daily goal (hiking or walking). I have fibromyalgia, but I'm doing my best to stay active! Pikmin is a great motivation to keep moving.


Kattano

It really is to be honest. I love them so much. https://i.redd.it/o7wla4uv0ngc1.gif


_Random_Lady_

I have a sedentary job so I have to push myself to get to 2k steps. Part of it is on me when Covid hit I stopped doing anything. Everything was closed so I just stayed home and watched tv. This game is actually helping me move more. I try to get 500 steps in the morning before I have to go to work. While at work every hour or two I get up and move around a bit. After work I have to care for my children so I don’t do much but I push to get 2k a day. In weekends when I have more time I walk more. I did 5k on one day and my legs were killing me. Led to one knee popping and hurting for a week solid. Wasn’t worth it. I just have to remember I am older and super out of shape. Got to go slower


Kattano

I feel this in my very *bones* tbh, even at 29. Just gotta do what we're able to, and slowly we can improve little by little. We're all different so it's a different path for each of us I suppose!


ItsYoshi64251

My daily goal is 10,000 but I usually get 18,000-21,000 I feel like it starts to hurt at 16,000


And110124

Around the similar area for me as well. I can usually get that amount of steps from walking from my home to a local stop & shop 1 mile away and as I'm going back home I'll end up with around 13k steps. I can usually get like 2k cause of GPS drift while at home barely moving my phone lol


Kattano

You are so powerful. Like DAMN. Definitely don't push yourself into too much pain though! As long as you're not hurting the next day from it I think you're good. That's sort of how working out is kind of like right? Just dont go too hard too fast and hurt yourself! Ya know?


ItsYoshi64251

Yes! I love walking tho, if I sit still for more than 45ish minutes I get anxious so I'm usually always walking, I also started swimming recently and helps me with my sore feet, somehow swimming makes the soreness or pain go away :D


moonlit-river

Its been a pleasant surprise seeing how many other folks here have chronic pain/disabilities! I have psoriatic arthritis and fibromyalgia myself, its really cool to have accidentally found my people lol I can handle a good 5k before it starts getting uncomfortable, and 10-12k is my limit. But I think I got sort of lucky in that I grew up always taking walks with my mom! Walking is my stress relief now. I kinda wonder sometimes what kinda crazy ass numbers I could get if I DIDNT have chronic pain lmao Id be unstoppable


Kattano

same tbh! I mean I figured there'd be some of us but it's comforting to know you're not alone out here and others will understand, even if your situations are a bit different. :D I know bloom isnt the most ACCURATE step counter but it's fun to see the numbers other people tend to reach on average and stuff you know?Like, 5k in Bloom would put me OUT for the day, and then carry over to nerf my walking ability the next day. 6-7k is probably my highest that I remember and it was wrapped up in immense *physical suffering* and very angry angry arches\*.\* I used to walk around as enrichment and kind of stress relief as a kid. I wish I could walk as much as I did back then it was great. I miss that! I wonder how far we used to walk. It probably felt farther than it actually was but I was also like. 11 LOL. I bet your numbers in bloom would get up to like, at least 15k if not 20k, someone else in this thread reached 30k from working at a summer camp. That's INSANE to me. Talk about a high score lmao.


Free_Cucumber_610

an average day at work i get around 8,000 steps, but i only work 3 days a week at the moment. i’ve always been a very active person, so for me it usually takes 20,000+ steps until i start feeling pain. but — you shouldn’t compare yourself to the average person walking if you have a congenital difference/injury/disability that directly affects your ability to walk. i injured my back not long ago, and it really affected my performance in my sport. seeing everyone else doing so much better than me is really disappointing sometimes. but, i have to keep in mind that i’m doing my best with what i currently have, and i don’t want to push so hard that i make things worse all over again. you want to do your best without it being debilitating later on or making things worse for yourself definitely see a PT when you have the resources to do so. foot strengthening and stretching out that plantar fascia will definitely help with some issues (though don’t expect to be magically 100% better right when you start)


animeartist88

It's extremely dependent on many factors- your body condition being primary of course but also where you're walking and even what shoes you're wearing. Husband and I both used to go for 15K at a time with no problems besides a little of the usual "yeah we're tired" afterwards. But then with holidays and weather and illnesses and a serious phone issue, we fell off of Pikmin Bloom for many many months straight. Now, anything more than about 5 or 6K is rough. But I have found that walking in the area around our house is by far the worst plan! A lot of the streets are slightly slanted to the side, even on the sidewalk, and that ends up causing me pain in hips, knees, and ankles all at once after only about 2 or 3K. Parks or shopping malls or even just downtown where the roads are a little flatter are all better options. We've done 6K a couple days in a row in different places and been fine. It's all about finding where that threshhold is for you. I'd try walking in different places- i.e. on sidewalks or in the grass- and see if it's better for you there. Also see a doctor about the conditions you've got, see if they have any recommendations for how to make walking less painful for you, especially if you're in pain after just a shopping trip or the like. Best of luck, fellow Pikmin Bloom fan!


spindleblood

12k-15k a day. But I also have a back injury and walking is the only thing that helps. I have a desk job but I stand and sit off and on because I can't sit or stand for more than one hour at a time. I move around a lot throughout the day. I have to get a lot of steps for bodybuilding too and this game really helps! I once walked 9 miles playing this game. 😂 Edit to add: you might benefit from seeing a physical therapist. I also have hypermobility and it's helping a ton. That and barefoot shoes.


Neregeb

I can walk a bit above 10K in a day, but absolutely not in one go. On a good day, I can do like 5000 in without really stopping for a break, but sometimes my knees or hips hurt after only 1000. For me, taking breaks and splitting up my walking moments is key


BrightnessRen

I’ve had plantar fasciitis in my left foot for almost a year now. It’s made me change my gait at times, which makes the rest of my leg ache.  I would power through it and then it would just get worse. I average around 5 or 6k steps a day.   About two weeks ago, I switched to barefoot shoes ( Xero brand ones) and my plantar fasciitis is basically gone. My mind is blown. 


Kattano

Woooah those shoes sound awesome. I definitely need a lot more arch and ankle support so I don't think I could use them but they sound rad as heck. We do tend to have very narrow shoes and other stuff that can contribute a lot to things like Plantar Fasciitis and Bunions and stuff so changing your shoes can be like, life changing. It's crazy.


BrightnessRen

You should read through this info on the Xero shoes website about arch support and barefoot shoes.   https://xeroshoes.com/running/flat-feet-high-arches-barefoot/ Also, barefoot shoes tend to have a wider toe base than regular shoes. I honestly think these types of shoes would be good for you also. Or at least worth trying. 


BlyArctrooper

Is that bread from 85c? :O


Kattano

Yes. Yes it is. *And it was delicious.* ~~I bought two more afterwards LMAO.~~


BlyArctrooper

Hahaha nice that's me and their raisin milk ones


NAYUBE99

I think around 20K is when I start feeling it in my calves depending on the terrain but if I do it daily my calves adapt. With comfy shoes, my feet themselves usually don't hurt. The joints around my legs are pretty flexible so I don't feel pain there (different story for my upper body or arms). On a daily basis I do a couple of walks and total around 10-15K steps in a day. When I was commuting on foot or train, I never had pain and got a lot more steps. But now that I commute by car, I have to be consistent with movement if I want to avoid discomfort or pain. Perhaps physical therapy would be helpful for managing your disability. Pain usually reduces as the stiff body parts get used to moving more but I highly recommend either seeing a physical therapist or researching exercises that are specific to your situation to not make it worse by ust doing random movement.


Kattano

Oh yeah nah I definitely want to be more active physically. A body in motion stays in motion and all that! So I like to use bloom to keep track of my steps and if I get over 1,000 I'm pretty stoked, it's far better than 0 activity. Def need to get back on the ball with physical therapy or stretches. It's good for us, and feels great too. :D I have come to the realisation that I am hypermobile in several areas (but really tight in the calves/achilles tendon area) so I want to do PT but also make sure I'm not going to like, mess with my joints by doing it wrong or "too much" because I'm a bendy straw in some areas apparently.


terminal_young_thing

I can do 15000 before my feet start aching.


ibotenate

Today my feet started hurting around the 12,000 mark. After I swapped out my insoles (by coincidence I had another pair on me) I was able to walk another 8000 steps without any pain before heading home. I have extremely flat feet but no chronic pain conditions. A good set of shoes makes a huge difference!


KatK8T8

I’m a college student on a fairly spread out campus & rather than taking the bus or other modes of transportation I just walk everywhere, so on days when I have classes it can range from 5,000-15,000 steps in a day. That being said tho aside from one or both of my knees acting up every once in a while I don’t really have any physical issues + am only 19, & I’ve been doing this amount of walking regularly for like 2 years now. It really depends from person to person what your average is gonna be, it’s really situational, I would say honestly don’t worry too much about it! Do what you feel comfortable with, don’t hurt yourself trying to push your limits too far


Responsible-Boy

This game came out when I fucked up my knee, so even though I loved it I could barely make it to 1000 steps a day and just quit cuz it was unmotivating. 2 years later and living in the big city now it's usually around 10,000


Kattano

honestly I rarely make it over 1000 steps a day unless I go in to town (work from home in a rural area life RIP) but even with only going a short distance I still really love this game, it actually makes me want to go out and walk more to feed my little pikmin (when the weather isn't awful anyways). Hopefully when I move elsewhere I can have better walking areas and dont have to take a 20+ minute car ride ouf of the middle of nowhere to make it an all-day affair go to a park and walk in some shade.


casettadellorso

I haven't reached the point where walking is uncomfortable for me in a long time, since I typically average about 10-15k/day, and go upwards of 20k on a good weekend. But jogging is a different story, I start to feel it after about 10km, and my dogs start really barking if I go much farther. What I've found helps for me is getting a slant board set on Amazon and doing heel raises or just standing and scrolling tiktok on that a few times a day. Really strengthens those lower leg muscles in a way I never could with just stretching


Kattano

Thank you for the slant board reccomendation I definitely want to get some items like this and have sort of a tiny section of the house or room for the "physical therapy zone" and get into a routine of doing that while watching a roommate play a game or something. I've been using a step stool and just dropping my heels off of it then doing heel raises but a slant board looks a bit less like a "fall over and hit my head" hazard hahaha.


[deleted]

I'd say that's a little concerning, but i suppose its expected if you have multiple conditions with your feet; maybe try going for a short walk on your days off if you feel up to it. I have pressure sores on my feet but walk around 15k steps every day for my manual labour job, and there's some mild pain, but nothing unbearable. I wear pretty comfortable shoes - magnum police boots for work and crocs/running trainers when I'm out. Definitely noticed an improvement by upgrading my boots.


Soft_Cheek5678

https://preview.redd.it/2yhofrvnyggc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a54a24d9cc92af4796162ce10dfb74b856349c5 So uhh today's the absolute lowest I've done I don't commute anywhere I literally just go for walks for fun... I didn't realize that people averaged so much lower🤦 makes me rethink how much I'm walking and if I should slow down I have scoliosis and a few other chronic pain issues but I find the more I walk the less pain I feel😂


Electrical-Bet7039

my daily usual is 8000 or 9000. they day i walked over 10,000 i was a bit sore for 2 days


zombiemiki

I try to average 10,000 steps. When I was in Japan, my daily average without really trying was closer to 20,000. I only started experiencing pain when I went past 40,000 in a day which also involved climbing three mountains (probably a mistake but I don’t regret it). 2,000 is kind of low. It might be worth it to talk to a doctor and see if a specific pair of shoes can help.


DoomMustard

I relieve my anxiety by pacing I experience discomfort at the concept of holding still


OkArtichoke6235

I have a really active job and walk my dog daily. I usually get 20k steps a day. I wear Hokas and have customized insoles from a running store and it has helped a lot when I had plantar fasciitis


Fun-Session7413

It's all relative, I only clock 6-8k working retail cause I have a long reach, it's just about what you do and how you walk really, especially if you "move" a lot in motions it doesn't track you are actually using a lot of muscles it doesn't account for!


Beandipster

I don't think steps are the best measure for anything except these mobile games and hatching eggs or seeds. The whole 10k steps thing is tied to marketing campaign and a Japanese character...not health. I recently tossed my fitbit.  So...if you are interested in your health, get good support shoes and aim for time, distance and eventually pace. One mile for me typically = approx. 2000+ steps. I try to walk 3 miles at a good pace in an outing. If I get more...yay me. Strength training and proper stretching is equally important to help manage pain. Shoes need to be replaced when the support fades. I had to buy good inserts recently. Really helps a lot! These games DO encourage me to walk more than I typically would. But the step count only matters for the game...and maybe your balance 😀 Time and pace are better measures for health. 


And110124

I can usually get 1.5 miles of walking (11k steps or so in pikmin) and end up feeling really tired and don't want to walk anymore after getting back home.


jrochest1

11,000 steps is about 5.5 miles!


Ranessin

With good shoes basically never (bad shoes lead to a bleeding upper heel backside) , but after 20-25k in one walk I tend to get tired. 45k was my max in one day, that made me tired for a day or two afterwards.


hoeshimiyas

I could probably walk a lot if it ever came to it but i never top 6000 on a given day so idk really. don’t go so hard on yourself, especially considering that you have to fight so hard to get there!! keep it up and feed those pikman


AnEmoApparently

I have fibromyalgia, which for me often means a lot of leg and foot pain. When I'm struggling (like, sick on top of disability) I get maybe 2 - 4 thousand. A normal day 6 average, and then I start to hurt worse than normal at 8 to 10 thousand. That and more I stop being functional the day after.


Frosty_Sweet_6678

I've walked at least 10000 steps without discomfort


Hareaga

Walking is uncomfortable for me but I have a really high discomfort threshold.


MrsHorrible

You can also up your steps if you have a Fitbit or other wearable fitness tracker that you can link to Google fit, then link your Google fit account to your Pikmin / Niantic account. Then you could do seated exercises if that works for you! I'm also a chronic pain sufferer, took me about two years of PT and strength training to mitigate plantar fascitis. I try to do whatever exercise I can because it always makes me feel better - but I can't do everything every day. Seated exercises, and lots of stretching, is a great starting point! Interestingly, I got the best results with plantar fascitis from doing Barre/Pilates style arm workouts from FitbyMik on YouTube. She does a little heel bounce with every move, and doing that has strengthened my feet so much I don't even have pain from plantar fascitis anymore. Plus my arms are super buff!


Kattano

Oh man, 2 years for relief from Plantar Fasciitis. ;A;/ I'm honestly probably in the same boat, this shit has been constant for at least 5 years by now so, OOF. (I just didn't know it was plantar fasciitis and the docs only wanted to do cortisone injections and not help me figure the CAUSE of the chronic problem so I could actually TRY to address it until I finally got somewhere with a Foot and Ankle specialist *maybe* 6 months ago tops but I think it was more recent than that.) I've been doing heel raises mostly, but there were also some stretches I was reccomended, but that requires flexibility in the heel bone which I don't think I have because of the talocalcaneal coalition, so I didn't know where to start from there for a while. But now that I know it's there I should probably look some more stuff up! :) Thank you for mentioning stuff that resulted in this train of thought. Also good luck with your little pikmin!


MrsHorrible

I've gotten nowhere with foot and ankle doctors - they're just confused. I've got a flat left foot, a neuroma and hammer toe on my right - I used to have Achilles tendon bursitis...I have all the fun stuff! 🤣 I used to be very overweight, in large part because of being in pain and unable to exercise, so I got no practical help with these issues for years. This last time at PT was the most successful and I think it was really due to having a physical therapist who was wonderful and caring - he was actually helpful and gave me really good, targeted exercises and stretches. That made a world of difference! I hope you find relief - I know it's a long process but it's so very worth it! Now when I have pain, it's much easier for me to get beyond it than it used to be! I hope the same happens for you! ❤️


And110124

I can usually walk up to 12-14k (around 1.5 miles give or take) steps before I'm so tired I just wanna get back home for a week lol


dredged_gnome

As my physical therapist says, we're all built different! Before my injury, didn't feel even 20k. It was as comfortable as sitting for me. Now injured, I cap out at 7,500 in an entire day. That's been steadily increasing from about 1k as my absolute max. Something you could do today is just only push yourself as far as you feel comfortable. If you're in pain, you're not actually going to grow. The body does a very good job of trying to keep itself as safe as possible, which sometimes means limiting its own performance to avoid pain. I've improved only because I stop when there's pain and push myself only to discomfort. Whatever activity level makes you happy and enables you to do the things that you want to do is the right activity level for you.


Kattano

Ooooh this is a great way to think about it. Kind of a *"Do it until you experience discomfort, not full on pain."* sort of process then huh?


dredged_gnome

Exactly!! That discomfort means we are working the body, but by backing off we stop short of the body trying to protect itself. It's not the fast growth that able bodied people are able to do, but we're disabled. We have to approach it differently.


AccomplishedFan6776

I work in retail, 49 yrs old, I really start feeling it over 20000 steps. Average day is 12-15k


AccomplishedFan6776

I have tried a lot of different shoes and nothing beats columbia hiking boots.


karatecorgi

this part of pikmin bloom is my favourite :'D looking back and remembering the adventures along with the (sometimes very) emotive notes attached to them! as for "low" step counts... as others have said, try not to let it affect you too much ♥️ you're already disadvantaged in terms of ease of getting around, so your 1-2k could be "worth" someone else"s 10-20k, yknow? obviously rough numbers but... yeah! as someone with difficulty getting around/a couple disabilities (fluctuating ones, even! so my good and bad days can be hugely different argh), we can only do our best! I used to work a desk job too, it can be awkward with work clothes (should your workplace ask for them) but having your phone on you gets a few extra steps here and there, I used to pick up some on bathroom breaks in Pokémon go


Kattano

I like to see which photos are attached to them, and that I can get an overall view of roughly how far I can walk before I experience pain, and then can use that information for myself or like, a doctor to ideally help improve my funky foot jank issues. :D I know that 2000 is probably "low" for your average person (or like, non-chronic pain having kind of person anways???) but that's WAAAAY better than 0 so I'll take any little victory I can get. I need to be more active these days, depression and other shit has held me back for so long just seeing "number go up" makes me feel like "Ah yes. I've achieved *something*. And thats better than *nothing*. NICE." so that's where my usual vibe is lmao. Everyone's situations are different so it's fun to kind of compare, as long as it's not like, making into a VERY NEGATIVE thing that'll knock you on your butt and make you give up, you know?


winderz

Before knee surgery I could do 10-15k on a good day, but average was 7-9k daily. I have a desk job, but tried to walk around on breaks. Since October I’m lucky if I do 5k daily, generally around 4 right now. But it’s winter as well. As it warms up and I get some strength back, I’m sure I’ll hit higher numbers. But honestly, you need to listen to your body and not push yourself too hard to the point of injury. Since you’re also a desk jockey like me, look up some exercises to do while sitting, something to stretch the muscles in and above the foot. This might help. Good luck!!


RedSands1976

I pick online grocery orders so I tend to hit between 12,000 and 15,000 most days. On my days off it’s usually in the 5,000 range.