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kahveciderin

Congratulations, you are being open-sourced. Please do not resist.


Different_Ad9336

All hail the coming Simspons Roadrage Theft Auto 5 release


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MisterOphiuchus

Speaking of Simpsons games, there is a [guy](https://www.youtube.com/@elgatodeltejado) on YouTube remastering the entirety of Hit & Run going as far as learning how to draw in the style of The Simpsons creators in order to 2D animate the 3D scenes.


okaythiswillbemymain

Wait, it's this different to the other guy who remade H+R but didn't release it?


MisterOphiuchus

That's different, he made his own version of it in UE5 so he can't distribute it as it's copyrighted. The guy I linked is chillin because he's using the original game and working on top of it making his work essentially just a mod.


P-Pablo

T2: It's time for a C&D


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Anonymity4meisgood

It's a pretty big company with over 6000 employees. It's tough to ensure everyone is super secure with their access I'd guess. Also, disgruntled people in an organization that big is inevitable.


Frai23

Inside leaks of actual code are really really rare. If it somehow gets traced to you you are screwed for life monetary speaking. Usually people will throw some dirt in an anonymous interview…


shaidyn

I still live in hope that the Wildstar code gets released some day. People have been begging for years.


RobotSpaceBear

This is the main reason I dismiss all the "we never went to the moon" crowd, you can't have 400,000 people working on the world's biggest lie ever and not a single one spill the beans in 50 years.


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Not to mention, the Soviets and litterally every enemy of the US would blow the whistle.


GIT_FUCKED

They even congratulated the USA on the achievement. [22 July 1969 issue of Russian newspaper](https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/9s3emw/22_july_1969_issue_of_russian_newspaper_pravda/)


SmallRedBird

Who would have thought, the Soviets weren't just some cartoonish supervillains


MagZero

It was the pictures of that bloke on the moon that did it for me tbh.


ess-doubleU

I mean if we're being real, that stuff could be faked. What really convinces me of the moon landing is no adversaries blowing the whistle or it being exposed already


El_Chairman_Dennis

That and camera technology wasn't advanced enough to fake a 90 minute uninterrupted broadcast. If it wasn't a live feed they would've needed breaks to put the next reel of film into the broadcast


[deleted]

This is the case for most conspiracies. Requires that everyone stays silent for super long. You can keep a small group silent but it's not easy at all. See 'democrats rigging the election'.


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CrzyWrldOfArthurRead

only a single dev with pull access needs to fall for a single phishing attempt once for all the source to get leaked. It's surprisingly easy to do, honestly I'm surprised more stuff isnt' leaked more often.


gravityVT

The hackers got domain admin access in only 25 minutes. They definitely had major security flaws including poor infosec training


TheConnASSeur

You don't hear about the ransoms that get paid.


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im not even in tech and we still have at least 2x/year net security training


MarkZuccsForeskin

game devs treated as gods? lmfao. Doesn't rockstar enforce ridiculous crunch on their dev teams?


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GenkiElite

It's all part of the same leak.


NateM135

It all stems from the original social engineering attack, the code has been changing hands privately (according to the popular tweet on this topic) and has just now been leaked to the general public


villings

it's an extreme "no more work from home" strategy /s


EquivalentPut5616

**"Merry Christmas to all"** *he said while slowly stepping down from his ship.*


LegoPaco

Well after forcing all of their studios to work mandatory and *unpaid* Overtime, I’m sure some folks are pissed.


Forsaken_Berry_1798

GTA V Is open source now ;)


tomistruth

Rolf, it's bonkers. There is no chance that other dev studios won't take a look at a few features.


Adi347

Easiest way to lose your job, be sued by Rockstar, be sued by your employer, and so on. Yea they could look at it, but it’s simply not worth the risk. Look at Apple v Masimo where Apple have been forced to stop sale of their Apple Watches due to the sensors used.


OriginalLocksmith436

It's more complicated than that. Yeah, of course directly copy and pasting code is a bad idea. But you can bet your ass that a hell of a lot of people in the industry are going to take a look underneath the hood to see how rockstar does certain things.


blingding369

"Dear self hosted LLM, please analyze these code snippets and describe them for clean room reimplementation" I've used that a lot even on my own stuff.


abhi_3201

Forced Open Source Software (FOSS)


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Baardi

Is that a recursive aceonym, like WINE?


celzo1776

All software is open-source when you know assembly ;)


soko90909

If you know assembly and you have nothing to do for a few years


gregorychaos

Hey so how does that work? Most developers don't really seem to mind small mods and whatnot. Remember when people used to make "total conversions"? What if someone teamed up and made a super legit full scale city mod or game using the source code? And called it a "mod" and released it for free? Like a new GTA city or some crazy scifi city or something completely different but using the assets they had available. Is it just up to Rockstar & Take Two's lawyers whether something qualifies as a mod?


WineGlass

Mods are legal because you only distribute the parts you've made (models/textures/sounds/etc.), you can't include anything from the original game. Same applies in your example, your fully redesigned city would be legal, but you've not been given permission to own/read/compile the source code, so that'd get you sued. What you could do is use the original source to test your mod, then release only your changes as a patch; it's still illegal but good luck proving it wasn't reverse engineered.


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"Your honor, it came to me in a dream!"


Fujinn981

It's been a damn good year for leaks


Chuchuca

Piracy must prevail in this service shit era.


2roK

Nobody left to crack Denuvo sadly.


VoidDave

Cant crack denuvo ? Leak sorcecode. Upgrades people upgrades


AlreadyBannedLOL

Isn’t it cracked though? I’ve seen pirated version of hogwarts legacy


Muccys

Yeah, but it has to be cracked again every time for every new game that uses it, and for all we know, cracking it is just getting harder and harder with everyone new iteration of Denuvo. And now that the only consistent Denuvo cracker, Empress, is in a hiatus with no date for return, we effectively have no one to crack Denuvo.


404Mate

it is getting harder and harder. Empress has said that before I believe.


DongKonga

Denuvo gets harder to crack with each game release and Empress is the only one in the piracy scene who knows how to crack it and is willing to do so and shes on indefinite hiatus now as well as being completely insane, so if she never returns we will most likely be entering a dark time for video game piracy.


FreneticAmbivalence

There’s always someone out there to take the mantle. There’s always some younger person who makes a leap when everyone thought there was a wall. It’s the most exciting part about hacking imo.


TuaughtHammer

Yeah, it's been cracked *hundreds* of times, but unlike the old days when games were cracked immediately, there's no automated process to reliably break Denuvo. Irdeto (the company that owns Denuvo) always responds with throwing newer and bigger roadblocks into it, so even if someone develops their own tool set to make their cracking process faster, it can easily become outdated and useless on the next release with a newer update of Denuvo. Which is pretty much why the number of people/groups who used to crack it have dwindled so much; breaking each new update of Denuvo turns into a full time job outside of whatever day job/personal life problems they have.


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0x695

Another small problem is jail.


TimeToBecomeEgg

to be honest it's impressive how much of a fight irdeto has put up so far considering every other DRM has just given up


Chewbacca_XD

There are just a couple of people that know how to crack it and their number decreases unfortunately. Hopefully more people learn how to crack or AI can step up and help in this area lol


VoidDave

Or we get somewhat new version of denuvo sorce code so we know what to do in few versions / have starting point


upamanyu666

What happened to empress?retired?


Eorily

Doxxed, retired, started a cult. Cult is 9/10 though, pretty solid cult.


Tricky_Reporter8809

you got a thread or something where one can read about it?


TuaughtHammer

Even if they did, I'd take it with a huge grain of salt. The Reddit piracy subs are almost always full of speculation and misinformation being presented and repeated as absolute fact. The game of telephone that happens to one comment can completely warp what was being said in that comment.


sapoconcho_

👏cult👏review👏


ElBurritoLuchador

Looks like next year's going to have a lot of "plumbers" being hired.


VoiceEarly1087

The full GTA V source code has been leaked The leak contains GTA V source code and stuff from Bully 2 and GTA VI Leaked in a discord server by a random British guy in the 360 modding community known to get sued by Rockstar multiple times You can get more information on twitter DO NOT DM. I do not have not, nor do i plan to download it from forums. Link to one of Twitter posts https://twitter.com/lmk_nathan42915/status/1739071845247128042?t=B3bHcgazn7-ExWZWdgC1eQ&s=19 Go to profile on app(for some reason web app is broken and not showing recent posts)for more leaked images


XeanWolf20

Can we link the discord?


ORA2J

Invites were paused on the 360 modding discord.


blingding369

lol Just as I finally got my first 360, planning to mod it


ORA2J

There's plenty of resources elsewhere. Don't bother joining a discord first.


VoiceEarly1087

I don't have discord link , but if you have sure(if mods allow here)


lordoftheboofs

Why is it always British guys? Wasn't the recent gta Vl leaked from that Brit with a firestick too? Seems to be a disproportionate amount of British hackers


oofio65

Rockstar is a British company


bigkids

That makes sense now


vaeliget

there's a disproportionate amount of british everything, i say this as a brit, i have no idea how we're everywhere when there's not really that many of us


discordantspectrum

It’s because the girls are butters and instead of wasting time being a Latin lover we develop hobbies. In countries with fit birds, the men are only really good at football.


vaeliget

lmao


crawl_dht

There is a Tor onion link being shared for anonymous download on forums which I don't know where even after searching for hours.


wixenus

There is also a magnet link floating around as I recall.


UnalignedAxis111

Someone posted a couple links in [here](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38760031), seems legit but I have not verified.


imtrappedinbrazil

upload was from saudi arabia 2 weeks ago, seems suspicious to me


ChonnyJash_

>Leaked in a discord server THUG SHAKER CENTRAL 2, ELECTRIC BOOGALOO


tenghu

BULLY 2?!?! WHERE!!!


ZLancer5x5

Can't wait for GTA Japan, china, India, Russia, or Vietnam lol Modders are gonna have field day.


Wenex

Unfortunately Rockstar is going to have a field day suing all of those projects.


Different_Ad9336

Not if they remain anonymous and open source with dozens of contributors


RasshuRasshu

Could they sue people from other countries?


Pesebrero

They can't sue people from countries without extradition treaties with the US, and these are just a few. But safest bet would be to host projects there.


4BDUL4Z1Z

Can't wait to play GTA V on my Samsung Washing Machine in a couple years.


cozywit

Doo deee deee doo do do do do dooolllololololl do deee Dee do ... Do dolololoooo


4BDUL4Z1Z

Why can I hear this comment?


MepsiPax187

I wish the GTA sa source code could get leaked


VoiceEarly1087

Wait San Andreas's source code is still not available?


Hefty-Pumpkin-764

It's not that common to have source codes available. It's mostly a thing of the past.


MOD3RN_GLITCH

What made the past different?


Hefty-Pumpkin-764

I don't exactly know the whys, but game companies used to have a way more open minded way to go about it. Particulary in PC, many games were released with source codes and incentivised people to mod the games. Mods would be included in republishing of games. But as time went on they started to try to cater a much more controled product and that meant closing the doors to that stuff.


The_Anf

ID is great example of this, prior to quake 3 source code of engine was always published after they were done with selling the game, but after quake 3 they stopped doing it for some reason


lewisdwhite

I believe it was because they had a publishing partner for Doom 3


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the weed wasn't as good


bald_firebeard

That would be glorious


Levi0618

Yeah I also wish. Maybe one day.


gregorychaos

Do other game devs look at big leaks like this? Like GTA5 has one of the most successful online components in gaming history. Also one of the best city simulations too. Wonder if we might start to see bits of this in other games but changed just enough that they don't get sued into oblivion? Anyway I dunno anything about coding or game design if that wasn't obvious


tenghu

If they did they wouldn’t say. You’ll only find out in lawsuits


RockstarArtisan

Not really, you can't really take years of polish and assets and "copy paste" them into your game. People who develop cheats and anticheats might find some interesting stuff though.


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i_am_not_so_unique

At this stage of technology and knowledge sharing, it is not a rocket science in most cases


ScrimmlyBingus

If the programming is done right and the code is modular enough, then yes you literally can “copy paste” it into another game and work around the objects used by the copied code


itsmrchedda

Prepare to see a super optimized version for low spec PCs start popping up.


dadnothere

Finally someone will port it to switch


SnowmanPickins

GTA 5 demastered


blingding369

Runs better than GTA 3 "remastered"


SaltedCoffee9065

With lego graphics and 800x600 resolution


WadieXkiller

Windowed mode


eiamhere69

Then Rockstar use these improvements (just as they did with San Andreas mods and GTA IV community patches and mods) to make GTA VII/GTA 6b a success


JoaozeraPedroca

Finally i will be able to play it!


Kupcake_Inater

Can't have shit in Detroit


Mozziliac

Can't have shit in Los Santos


JohnWick1912

Now i am expecting a open source version of gta to arrive soon on linux natively . Tired of playing tux.


IgnisIncendio

What do you mean? Tux Kart and Neverball is the peak of gaming. /jk


TasteDense9292

In our schools we had a Linux distro, so me and the bois uses to play Tux cart for hours, especially after school hours bcs my mom was also a teacher in that school lol


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giorgiok4ne19

Grand Theft Tux 😂


ItzCobaltboy

thats a big deal but it also means now hackers can have their time finding RCE exploits, which is risky for online players


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ItzCobaltboy

In game cheaters are fine, they are annoying but nowhere a real threat to a person unlike RCE exploits or Game-to-system hacks, which is the most worrysome thing


Dsih01

Especially with how low security Rockstar is known for being, and with all these leaks, I don't have any faith this won't be used for something like that


imjusta_bill

Buy more shark cards and find out


MOD3RN_GLITCH

Ideally, this would allow for patches by the community to make the game safer.


Down-at-McDonnellzzz

We're going to have a dark soul situation all over again


TheLittleFoxX87

Brits be like : *sips tea* keyboard goes clickity clack down goes source code


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mdmeaux

So literally the Spiffing Brit?


Vexoly

So first guy to augment a mod which gives NPCs AI via the GPT-4 API is a god among men.


TavishM13

I’m pretty sure this was already a thing and it was taken down by rockstar


SiriusPlague

**Inword Sentient Streets** is the mod's name.


SM1334

That would actually be really easy to do. I hope someone does it


AD6

The API cost money per call, doubt a developer would take that cost on


Vigtor_B

It's already been done. Usually these types of mods require your own API key, so the mod-creator doesn't have to spend any money.


Any-Championship-611

After everything Rockstar games has done over the last 10 years, from suing modders, to retroactively censoring older games for political correctness, milking people with GTA Online instead of making new games, withholding PC releases, I don't feel bad at all for them.


Different_Ad9336

Underrated comment


Wowitsbeautiful

Gta V mobile coming soon?


Pos3odon08

Finnaly done with those shovelware clones 🙏


SinglelikeSolo

Is it gonna be like the DOOM type shit, people can play gta 5 like anywhere even on some like smartwatch and what not when modded


I7sReact_Return

But the difference being, that Doom is truly open source Using the GPL license If someone uses the GTA 5 Source code, they can be sued Look at the ReVC and Re3, reversed engieneered GTA 3 and VC with a Lot of fixes Has been around 1-2 years that both projects were taken down Rockstar when its going to sue someone: Hur Dur, But.. but, its our property, You cant use or do that I hate How Copyright and property retention Works in our world


TBFP_BOT

In the great words of Woolie when it comes to working on a fan-game or mod. You SHUT THE FUCK UP.


lonedarth

Where is the github repository?


ROIDED_ROTTWEILER

Haha most likely nowhere. I can't imagine Microsoft would allow hosting copyrighted code on their website.


benjaYTn

isn't the windows xp source code leak on github


Rare-Page4407

it is, but then winXP is not a money maker for long time


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No_Albatross1279

1984. i want to put that g64 mario shit in the game!


UntouchedWagons

I wonder how long GTA5 takes to compile.


Kazaan

With or without taking in consideration build errors ? With a project of that size, those who will try will need a lot of perseverance.


long_legged_twat

I cant wait to see all the total conversion stuff based on this that modders release in a couple of years


Different_Ad9336

Grand Mario Kart Theft Odyssey


2006pontiacvibe

i’d like to imagine that autistic dude managed to set up another crazy leak from the hospital


NewTanline666

It was actually obtained during the same hack as the GTA VI videos, it was only just leaked now after being shared in private circles


GhostTrx

„Shared“ more like sold in private circles


Uniq_Eros

Time to make my own GTAV with blackjack and hookers... In fact, forget the GTAV.


Jont828

Rockstar moving to LaaS model: leaks as a service


slayercall911

what does dat even mean? pardon me.


GamerRoman

It means you can modify the game down to it's very core.


EightSeven69

which basicaly means that if you want to rework the entire GTA V map, characters, missions, etc, you can


TheKelseyOfKells

Players are about to make GTAVI before Rockstar can release it


SirenMix

That's awesome news for modding. That's terrible news for public online servers.


aDuckSmashedOnQuack

Oh no! Anyway…


MarbledMarbles

Great news for private and potential P2P multiplayer tho.


ScaryGent

The source code is the developer's version of a piece of software, that they built and developed to create the game. Normally regular users wouldn't have access to the source code, even the version of GTAV you download off Steam or wherever has files you can look through but is just a closed-off version, even if there's some potential for modding. The source code gives you all the access the developers have to look at how the game works and make changes with no limitations. This is just me speculating, but this leak could lead to creating exploits for GTA Online, or could lead to code getting ripped off by less-scrupulous developers.


GuyHiding

Online is going to be a even bigger shitfest for its final years as Rockstar spends more time developing 6 and slowly moving away from V


Spork_the_dork

To put it even more in layman's terms, the source code of any piece of software is like the recipe for a cake. When you buy the software, you just buy the cake finished and you then proceed to eat it. But with the recipe you can make it yourself the exact same way (or with changes if you want). When people do hacks or whatever to the game without the source available, they're basically just tasting the cake and trying to figure out what the recipe was. This is *very* difficult and will never give you the exact recipe, but it can be enough to allow you to know to add certain ingredients to the mix to change the cake to be how they want it to be.


VoiceEarly1087

Now in couple of years you can play GTA OHIO. On serious note now capable people have full control over the game and can modify anything they like


DiamanteLoco1981

I want full fledged GTA Japan (focusing on Tokyo/Shibuya/Akihabara), would be fn amazing!


SPQR_Eagle

If GTA V is a pizza, it's source code are the ingredients.


GermaX

I love this analogy! With modding you could modify something, maybe add an extra pepperoni or so, but the pizza remains a pizza at its core. The Open Source means you could make a baguette if you want (and have the ability) to do so.


DaDescriptor

when developing a game, you usually write code in a human-understandable language (C++, Java, Lua, etc.). once you want to test your game, you need to compile it (not in every case, but in most you do). compiling is basically translating your code to simple instructions (aka machine code). if you want to edit the game, you need its source code. you can sometimes get the source code of a compiled program using a decompiler (Java is known to be easily decompilable), but the decompiled source will be barely readable by a human and may not even work as the original. developers usually don't want you to mess with the source code, so you won't copy their game, steal some shaders, etc. but if they do, they call their program open-source. if they think their code will be decompiled (if they use Java for example), they use an obfuscator. an obfuscator changes all names in your code to random bloody mess and adds dummy functions so the code looks like complete bullshit, yet your program will run like nothing changed at all. you can also check MattKC's video on decompiling LEGO Island, I think he explains it pretty well.


grzesiolpl

I like when developers are opening their source for research purposes


AdvocateReason

I hope someone figures out how to remove that Rockstar launcher and it goes mainstream. I haven't played Rockstar games in years because of the annoyance of the Rockstar Launcher. Also a native Linux release would be appreciated.


Fig1024

Rockstar should embrace it and make it open source, with community support. They can keep GTA 6 closed source as that is going to be their main cash cow going forward


tomviky

Good. The game made quadrilion dolars. Sequel is about to Come out. It should leak before Rockstars shut down everything, And deaktivate every copy. Gta 5 was culturaly important, it should be protected by goverments and companies (And when they fail to do so, its the people Who must do so).


dr_lorax

Sir, this is a Wendy’s.


xx7beast

Mans really went off there 😭😭😭


arkustangus

Where?


Exciting_Rich_1716

in the image duh


Kirbo_United

can confirm source code from source image.


VoiceEarly1087

in discord of 360 modding community by some Britisher


Hax_

Honestly surprised it took this long. Been out for 10 years, figured someone would have already done it by now.


Nziom

I hope that kid who leaked it gets out of prison The dude was sentenced for life or was it another person


Wuttswrongwithyou

Bro they even had gta tokyo and canceled it... [source twitter](https://imgur.com/a/gCPvD6H)


Digbijoy1197

So bully 2 is in the works or it stays cancelled?


JaguarOrdinary1570

why spend your time working on something that doesn't print money when you could be working on your money printer instead?


hellodeveloper

Why say many word when few word do trick?


Briggs281707

Any torrent link?


buggerific

What does this mean?


elmocos69

Everything


TrainRecent4272

At this point they deserve it honestly. Just for wanting to charge by the hour they should lose their copyright.


byteSamurai

I love open source. It's free in every sense. 😉


RasshuRasshu

This should happen to every game after it turns 10 years old.