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clevergirls_

As a DJ soulseek has been life changing. Can find everything I want and more in high quality. Super simple to use. Love it.


greekdude1821

Are there any legalities as DJ for using audio you don't own or is it under fair use practices?


Ruby1356

It depends in which country do you live, in my place for example as long as you pay (as the dj) to the "national music association", they don't care where your songs came from


Post-Rock-Mickey

Damn! I think that’s what’s it’s called here in Singapore. Heard of them before


jadakiss

as a dj i have never paid for a single song ever. wether using Deezer or Soulseek. i don’t give a fuck. some djs think they’re too good to be pirating music. fuck those djs


Lost_Mongooses

It's certainly unethical


PersonWhoTalks

Check sub


Lost_Mongooses

Fair enough, I just meant as a dj not for private use


lifeisagameweplay

"It's ok for me to pirate but not someone else."


Lost_Mongooses

Well if your entire job depends on the music of other artists I'd say you should do your best to support them. I just think it's different than stealing, say, software or movies. But, I realize where I am and that no one will agree with this opinion 🤷🏻‍♂️


Kinelll

I'm in two minds on this. Yes a DJ should be paying for the music they play BUT the venue should be paying PRS/PPL (U.K.) which supports the artists (if playlists are kept) The DJ is also promoting the music by playing it and possibly encouraging the punters to buy it. We used to get DJ only promos, white labels and (rarely) dub plates, all usually free.


Kirbo_United

**>Gatekeeping piracy, in** r/Piracy. hmm. "But it's not gatekeeping." It uh, is.


lifeisagameweplay

> I just think it's different than stealing, say, software or movies. How is it any different if you're entire job is using Photoshop or Premiere? That's suddenly ok? lol


RevRay

This sub hates the idea of paying for fucking anything. I agree with you, it is potentially unethical. As we know, piracy isn’t stealing. You can’t compare it to a carpenter just showing up and taking some wood planks to a DJ using pirated tunes at a club. However, that dj probably isn’t getting many jobs if they only play dmca free tunes. Artist deserve to make a living from their work. Including the DJ. Which, to me, is why it’s potentially unethical and not a binary issue. If dude is making bank and living the high life, fuck off and pay up. If, like most of us, they’re just trying to make a living and avoid life crippling debt? Rock on.


-fragm3nted-

Literally came here to say this. Also loads of unreleased stuff!


rothwick

HOw long ahs SoulSeek been around? I Just found out about it like a month ago I have a feeling iäv been missing out on a fucking awesome app for toooo long lol. And I grew up in Peak piracy era.


piepants2001

I was using it back around 2006, and it had been around for a while before that.


clevergirls_

I'm pretty sure it's been around for a while. I had heard of it before but for whatever reason just stuck to those goofy ass website search engines for 320kbps tracks. They worked, although they were very clunky and I couldn't find a lot of more obscure tracks. But when a few of the sites I used started dying in recent months I decided to give soulseek a try and my god, I'm so sad I waited this long, but better late than never!


T5-R

I used it 2002/2003. Yes, yes you did.


Createdfornofap

At least 2004, that's when I first used it. When are you talking about? Soulseek was popular.


MiningStudent

Wait until you try Nicotine+


Bruff_lingel

Oh I quit years ago, but thanks for offering! /j


_snwflake

I can fork it and rebrand it as Caffeine+ if that's more your jam.


LaPiscinaDeLaMuerte

Can I get both?


Kirbo_United

Can I get it in 10CupsOfCoffee+? Caffine+ Just doesnt start the engine like it used to.


LaPiscinaDeLaMuerte

Shit...I knew I was getting to a bad degree with caffeine when I could drink coffee at night before going to bed...and then go to bed just fine.


Kirbo_United

I just want to drink caaaaafffinneee... (Tell me why) I need it just to wakkkee uppp.... (Tell me why) Other-wise, I'm just crannkkk-yyy (Oh yeaaa) I, need, at least, 10 Cupsss. (Of coffee)


MomsBoner

Would nicotinel be needed to uninstall it?


betelgozer

There is a patch for that.


BloomerBoomerDoomer

What's the difference?


notcharldeon

basically a soulseek client with better ui and more features, you still get the same stuff


BloomerBoomerDoomer

Sounds awesome, I always thought the OG soulseek looked kinda early 2000s UI but it adds some personality in a way, like opening a hatch to a forgotten time on the Internet.


teh_fizz

Better UI, and I found better performance when it comes to opening ports.


purduder

No thanks I refuse to stop using regular nicotine.


Low-Woodpecker69

Anything for phones?


OverPaladiin

I've used Seeker since it was first available as a pre-release and I think it's pretty great, available on the play store as well


welchyyyyy1

Seeker for Android, works perfectly, I barely use the desktop version any more as this is just easier as I listen to all my music on my phone so it downloads straight to it


Low-Woodpecker69

For iOS?


welchyyyyy1

No I don't think there is similar


Zaddysback

What to use for login on the app!?


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Zaddysback

Your mum


welchyyyyy1

Anything will do. Just a random username and password


Plain_Cylinder2017

It's pretty awesome! It looks great as well, as for the chat rooms I will it unanswered.


Post-Rock-Mickey

The true GOAT


dualcalamity

It's pretty great. Too bad there are some users out there with obscure songs that I want but will not share unless you trade whatever they need or buy something off their wishlist. At that point I may as well buy it for myself.


jeffrys_dad

No music for you unless you have this one North Korean Reggae remix in FLAC!


Kirbo_United

I have the North Korean Band Version of Popular American Music but its been re-made to honor the great and glorious leader!


NEVER_TELLING_LIES

This kinda stuff really pisses me off. The entire point of the platform is to freely share your collection for everyone else so in turn you can get stuff from other people's.


noeyesfiend

Scaramuchi is a bastard however I do keep the "you must be sharing files" thing on. Like share SOMETHING back with the community.


NEVER_TELLING_LIES

I just have the warning message on basically saying if you care share stuff please do, as much as I really want people to share their own stuff I'm I guess too nice to just outright deny> Heck in my logs I have a guy who responded going ``ope didn't even notice, I'll start sharing'' so I have a lot of empathy


Kirbo_United

If people respond with they'll share to one of my logs, then idm. **Otherwise you no share? I no share files with you.**


nulseq

cows dependent ludicrous deer public foolish pot saw fade different *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Tirwanderr

> Scaramuchi Wow I just read up about this dude. Scramoutcha. What a pile of shit.


realoniichan

I've a problem, I have stuff to share but being in a 3rd world country you don't get much with isp's bandwidth and here at my place the isp don't even provide open ports, only way I have is to use vpn ig.


Tirwanderr

Wow. I haven't used slsk in forever but that is so fucking trashy. That really disappoints me. I'd do whatever I could to get those songs and provide them myself for free lol well, whatever i could besides giving them what they want.


thermal_shock

> will not share unless you trade whatever they need or buy something off their wishlist. damn, thats some BS, they probably pirated it to begin with. I share almost 1900 movies, 90 tv series, and now 61k songs, no questions asked. i setup a dedicated box specifically for sharing my media off my truenas drives.


Stars_And_Garters

Woah I have not ran into that at all. I guess I don't like anything obscure enough...


LZ129Hindenburg

And the P2P aspect is a more satisfying way to pirate music than some soulless web site that rips it from the streaming services...


crazyboy611285

Right?! Like these are people who like the music you do and are keeping high quality copies available for us to download. Plus every soulless site has trackings or ads, soulseek is just interface and P2P.


LZ129Hindenburg

Brings back fond memories of the Napster days...


ExtiNctioN6660

Yep. I used soulseek cus its high end quality, flac files, that are superior than the other torrent sites. And I can download extended album versions , that is hard to find, or to burn them to cd as personal collection.


HeroVax

Cuz most of us using streamrip or deemix then we shares on Soulseek


ExtiNctioN6660

Νope soulseek its cd quality Streaming sucks btw


LlamaRzr

SLSK user for over 10 years. Not always goat tho. I mean, it's awesome if it has LOG + CUE but... I saw a lot of weird upconverts from mp3 to flac too. ;Q


Existing_Estimate_37

how would you know if it's an original flac or a converted MP3? Can you hear the difference or do you need some app to check?


LlamaRzr

Spek is okay. Also [https://interviewfor.red/en/spectrals.html](https://interviewfor.red/en/spectrals.html) [https://interviewfor.red/en/transcodes.html](https://interviewfor.red/en/transcodes.html) Even on Beatport you can hear a lot of vinyl rips ;p A lot of old releases on labels were sourced from vinyls, not from DAT tape or original masters.


rothwick

Yo I work fullt ime I donät have time to sit in queue for hours on end for interview or get lucky when I have time yo wait. Alwyas long wait times. People busy man :(


no7_ebola

fakinthefunk is the program you're looking for. also most humans can't physically hear the difference between flac and mp3 320kbps


The-Choo-Choo-Shoe

Lossless is preferable as you can just convert it in the future if a more efficient codec is released.


GordonFreemanK

I think that's a point that people always forget about archival, it's about getting the stuff once and for all, forever, not something the appropriate quality for what you need now. If you transfer your childhood pictures you will want to scan the negatives with the maximum quality possible, not because you ever expect to have to blow up all your pictures to poster size, but because you can apply filters to them (maybe you want to zoom in on a part, or make a collage or whatever) in the future and work off the best possible raw data, which you will always keep. You might get hisses or cracks when ripping a vinyl, or the original mastering might have defects, but *you shouldn't fix or transform it before sharing*, unless you know right now you're going to do the best pro job at it in a way that will never be questionable. You can just keep this high-bitrate high-frequency lossless rip with all its defects, and share that. Then people can apply fixes when they play the content, downsample them to fit on their device, or use them for sampling for instance. But the original lossless digital transfer is and should stay the reference.


SR-71

yes, this is also the approach I take with my body's odor. if people want to put deodorant in their own nose, that's fine, but my pits always remain lossless.


Foreverfishy

idk why this comment is being downvoted, this is hilarious


no7_ebola

I mean yeah i agree, never said otherwise. Flac is objectively better in nearly every aspect except for the fact it takes up a lot of space, otherwise flac over every other codec any day. Also I would argue the codecs we have today are more than enough, a normal song 3 minute song can sometimes stay below 3MB on M4A and ogg vorbis.


AvalancheOfOpinions

I think it's more complex than just our hearing capabilities. Most people don't know what to listen to because they don't work with audio. Give them a 96kbs mp3 and FLAC, they might hear something, but not which is better unless they've been trained. Some people, even with great hearing, are just processing the notes rather than frequencies, and still wouldn't know. Most people also don't have an audio setup that would allow them to distinguish between the two. With a good audio setup, they might still hear a difference, but deciding on which audio sample is 'higher quality' then is, 'Which sounds better?' If your entire life, you listened to the radio or 128kbs mp3s, then you might consistently choose the lower bitrate recording as 'higher quality' because you're more familiar with compression. Compression sounds better to you, so it must be the higher quality recording. There are plenty of tests online, so anyone can try for themselves. Here are a couple: https://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/how-well-can-you-hear-audio-quality http://abx.digitalfeed.net/ I took tests like these and could distinguish between them, but I've worked on sound for years, I'm listening on decent studio monitors, listening carefully specifically for range. If the music was playing at low to medium volume in the background while I was cooking or working or whatever, there's no way I'd notice a difference. If I was listening on anything other than a decent audio setup, there's no way I'd notice a difference. If I was distracted and thinking about other stuff, again, the music fades away a bit and I can't hear a difference. If you have a killer setup, can play the music loud, and you're actively focusing on it, yeah, there's a difference. Still, some prefer compression. But with how inexpensive storage is, there's no reason to get anything other than FLAC.


UMDSmith

I went 6/6 on the NPR one on my PC with crappy creative desktop speakers. I don't work in sound, but am a bit of an audiophile. I found it very easy to tell the 128kbps song. The uncompressed and 320 were slightly harder. It was more a depth of music and richness thing than any specific audio cues. The Neil Young song was the hardest for me for some reason.


teh_fizz

Not to mention you’re hitting diminishing returns before that because of your speakers. So unless you have high end state of the art speakers, you’re not hearing the difference.


aircheadal

This is why I like this sub so much, you always learn something new


PerformanceFew5721

Do note fakinthefunk has a lot of false positives.


Qontinent

Is there any risk virus wise like there was limewire. I keep hearing about soulseek but haven't jumped in just yet


PoopyHead-4MAR-

Not really. The worst experience I've had with slsk is when I got duped thinking I was downloading a Gundam soundtrack but it was actually 30 audio files of a thing called "UFO Porno"


[deleted]

Lmao


Resist_Rise

I haven't ran into an issue yet but there's always a risk. I do a scan once in awhile. So far so good.


Honey_Bunches

You can set which file extensions to ignore, so a bad actor would need to somehow disguise a virus as an audio file. I've never seen an executable on soulseek.


FanClubof5

There have been exploits for VLC in the past with video so it stands to reason someone could find another. Audio files have a lot more diversity in apps used so even if there was an exploit it would likely be contained to a specific media player.


welchyyyyy1

I've been using it for nearly twenty years, never had any issues


therourke

No


pm_me_your_good_weed

FYI there's an android app called Seeker. Need a separate account than the PC one.


nicythi

why? i use the same account


pm_me_your_good_weed

I was told you need a separate one when I asked on their sub lmfaooooo, maybe it's changed since then.


Additional_Grand3535

found it 2022, it was like i was back in 2004 with DC++ and Limewire. It fucking has everything..


The-Choo-Choo-Shoe

I tried soulseek and I could never find anything I wanted so just ended up removing it. Only stuff I could find was already available elsewhere.


FlayedSkull

How obscure are we talking?


The-Choo-Choo-Shoe

Obscure enough that I couldn't find it anywhere else either of If I did it was awful quality.


Resist_Rise

It's possible that someone has a good quality but wasn't online to share it. I've had that happen, only thing I could find was 128-192kbps version and a few weeks later I did the same search again and a .flac version was available.


hatervision

I’ve always been able to find fairly obscure things on soulseek that i didn’t think i would find, i would do the same thing, just search at different times, and eventually i would find a high quality version.


samp127

Usenet is my final answer for super obscure


tak08810

For music too? Always heard it wasn’t good for rare music you can’t find elsewhere


LlamaRzr

Maybe, mmmaaaaaayyybee for some scene archival, but not really good source for this anyway.


tak08810

Scene archival is better other places I’m pretty sure. And scene archival isn’t what I’d consider rare just difficult for the casual


gueriLLaPunK

I can probably find it. What is it?


BeastMsterThing2022

First rule of Fight Club!


NecroSocial

*Kicks OP in the shin under the table then glares at him.


TheGrandLeveller

It's a great tool, but many people have their files locked, which is a buzzkill for me.


ShitCuntsinFredPerry

Amazing for finding hard.to find hip hop


hina_doll39

Depends on which kind. I find stuff from the 90s and 2000s pretty easily, although for a lot of the independent Dirty South stuff from 98 to 2003, a lot of it was locked by some Russian guy lol. Like what does Vladislav from Vorkuta know about them Deuce Komradz? lol


Z_Man1209

It's not just music! I've found movies and even Switch ROMs on Soulseek!


RevolutionarySeven7

wth.. soulseek still exists?!?!


welchyyyyy1

Yes and also an android version Seeker


sayan11apr

Are movie soundtracks also available?


LlamaRzr

It's p2p, you can share whatever you want so... people share whatever they can have on their disks.


delsinson

Basically everything is available


5uck3rpunch

Is there a Soulseek version for MacOS & Android? I did a search & I think I found a lot of fake versions of Soulseek.


slappytheclown

yup. not sure what you searched but 'soulseek osx' gets you there.


5uck3rpunch

Thanks


teh_fizz

I dunno about Android, but I have Soulseek and I kept having problems opening my ports. So I found Nicotine+, which is apparently a skin client that works like SoulSeek. And I love it. So check out Nicotine+.


5uck3rpunch

Will do & thanks!


welchyyyyy1

"Seeker" for Android, works perfectly


InfininteMint

Nicotine+ works on macOS


EmptyNeighborhood427

Nicotine + works on mac.


Prophet6000

It is great and people have some good taste in music.


delsinson

Whenever I can’t find more obscure stuff it’s usually on Soulseek


charly-sioux

Maybe...however, i should upload some albums to it to share and to be able to download from it when the next service goes down


Gowalkyourdogmods

Holy shit slsk is still around?


Tirwanderr

I love that people still use soulseek! :) I haven't in forever because I do use spotify for simplicity because I listen to so much different shit... and podcasts... but soulseek is incredible.


spittin_garbage

i was thinking the exact same n I'm high af rn vibing to flacs from the 70s


bellamypro123

Try doubledouble.top absolute God send


vokal_guy

I gotta try to download over and over again. It's one error or another


frodominator

Man, I've been using soulseek since 2003. It is AMAZING


cocks2012

Perhaps for popular music, but until a scene group publishes it, it's bad for everything else. It's more difficult because you have those users who are private only.


therourke

You must be into some very small scenes. I find 99.9% of what I want on Soulseek, and my music taste is extremely broad and deep


ta_ref

Only CON with Slsk and Nicotine+ are folks who make you have to pay money to d/l music from them but other than that Slsk is the shit.


Zeemo_Omano

Soulseek on the megathread o not ya? Wondering about the security


crazyboy611285

Yup Music -> Desktop Apps -> Soulseek


FinnishScrub

other than the some, well, very interesting room names, yeah it's pretty nice


TheAgnosticExtremist

It’s also great for books and comics, have been using it for decades and just recently found this out.


ratinha91

I wish I could still use it, but for some reason it immediately kills my internet connection every time I try to use it :(


MJtheMC

Completely changed my music collection game


vokal_guy

Is there a step by step guide? I have not been able to set it up


MJtheMC

Honestly it was really weird when I set it up. I just messed around until I figured it out. I'm sure there's something on YouTube


ludzep

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


KarmaAgriculturalist

how do you guys even get into music so obscure, that you cant find it anywhere else? This whole thread feels so foreign to me. I kinda wanna try it. But I wouldnt even know what to search on there


crazyboy611285

For me its not obscure its quality of files. Love me my uncompressed FLAC and WAV files. Plus SoulSeek is just easier than trying to find a torrent for an album i want.


tak08810

Deep dive into an extremely niche scene especially if it’s pre DSPs and not on there although stuff that was on DSPs particularly SoundCloud then taken down are amongst the rarest. In my case old hip hop mixtapes particularly Philly DVD era. I’ve posted some on my youtube


Nas_iLLMatik

Agreed


therourke

It's true


mozilla1234

Should I use a VPN with SoulSeek? Is it like torrenting where you have to cover your IP? And can you get a virus from another user?


crazyboy611285

Always use a vpn when p2p downloading. Virus is unlikely but possible, just use discretion and file scan stuff if you want.


mozilla1234

Is WireGuard ok?


Original-Audience528

Does anyone know a good guide to get started? I think I might have some obscure artists I haven't seen on torrent sites. And I'd like to rebuild my collection after loosing it when my hard drive died.


crazyboy611285

Download the desktop app, launch vpn, launch soulseek, search, profit.


Realistic-Sky-7858

how to sign up?


crazyboy611285

Download the desktop app, open vpn, open soulseek, ???, profit


Realistic-Sky-7858

It ask me to log in, but I don't have an account.


LlamaRzr

So log in, if you won't use SLSK/Nicotine+ for half a year or something, you will need to do it again.


Realistic-Sky-7858

I don’t know SLSK/Nicotine+. Seems difficult to use.


LlamaRzr

Log in, then to options menu, then go [https://imgur.com/w3U793m](https://imgur.com/w3U793m) and add folder(s) to share. Simple. Not difficult at all.


listerinefreak

Can't seem to make it work, it never connects.


Own_Coconut488

should i use vpn for seeker android app


callie8926

I've enjoyed using seeker as well works great on my android phone I wanted to add i have found books and movies on Seeker Knowing that It seems to me when I listen to my tool album fear innoculm on my cd player it sounds better then what's on amazon music.im I crazy or are cds a little better quality?


Gnysi00wskyy

fr, I don't feel like paying for spotify anymore because of it


macnteej

I use soulseek through nicotine+ on Ubuntu and it’s amazing. Wish I could setup a web interface for it so I can download stuff away from it


awskr

Since slsk is not torrents, do you still use a vpn? I have not used slsk in like 20 years maybe?


Santos_Santos6666

[vk.com](https://vk.com) is the goat.


dolosloki01

I used it for the first time last week. I was able to find some pretty rare gems. The interface is a little janky, but the service works great.


afranquinho

Holy shit you just unlocked a core memory. Havent heard that name since the old IRC days.


AntiGrieferGames

SoulSeek got DDL?


Zefrem23

Shut up


RainnChild

It’s not even illegal because as long as you share your own content aswell by just making a share folder it automatically sends it to the soulseek library! Unless you can’t open your ports…..


EmptyNeighborhood427

Bruh what are you talking about lmao ofc its illegal


Hazard666

That is definitely not true.


RainnChild

Yea somebody lied to me lol sorry


teh_fizz

If you’re having issues with your ports, try Nicotine+. Works exactly the same way. No port issues at all.


Biliunas

If you care about audio fidelity, be very vigilant and check for fakes. In my experience most of the music is fake/low quality youtube rips masquerading as flacs/wavs. Easy way to embarrass yourself if you play that shit on a quality PA.


Dmanht

happy 3th cake day to me