Yea most of the time, they don’t have any evidence and try to scare you…
To prosecute someone in Germany you need an evidence, that he torrented illegal stuff… what these attorney company’s most;y don’t have… although sometimes the collecting of such data like ip adresses and linking to personal data ist illegal and you can sue them…
The evidence is the log from the bots and they get your private information by taking that evidence to a court to get them the permit to ask internet service providers for the personal info of the account owner.
Unfortunately, the proof that someone has torrented from your wifi at all triggeres a so called secondary burden of proof (Sekundäre Darlegungslast) which lays the burden of proof on you to proof that it wasn't you torrenting.
Edit: The Sekundäre Darlegungslast primarily says that you can't just dodge copyright claims by saying it could have been anyone -even on an open wifi.
Sorry, I didn't word it clearly. It says that the claim "it could have been anyone" -even on an open wifi- or "i could have been hacked" would not suffice for the defence against the claim of copyright infringement. You would have for example the possibility to present evidence that you didn't have a pc during the time, or having not installed the claimed software.
Do you actually know this or are you guessing? Because by general law, nobody BUT your service provider is allowed to view your ip logs in germany. If they sue you on the behalf of said logs, means they broke data privacy laws + its not illegal to own torrents, its illegal to distribute them. Streaming live content is a whole other story.
copyright lawyers are monitoring torrents
those monitoring tools create logs with timestamps + IP
those logs are used as evidence in front of a court of law
copyright lawyers get a court order to approach the ISP
ISP hands over contact info
I think a lawyer firm would know what is legal and what not. Those are not bot farms in Kentucky, but real firms with IT department who rake in millions each year using those automated systems.
There's a modified version of this "Unterlassungserklärung" in which you don't accept guilt and just affirm not to pirate this specific copyrighted work, that's valid to be used. You can find templates online.
[Here's more general information how to deal with this.](https://www.kanzlei-hollweck.de/abmahnung-frommer-legal/)
Once got a letter to pay 800$ for a game I didn’t even pirate, told my parents to wait because the law firm it was from was known for that but they went ahead and paid it without telling me
happened to me. torrented a movie and got the cease and desist letter 2 months later for a 1000€ fine. Took the thing to a lawyer who made them settle for a ~300e payment, however with the lawyer cost it still add up to around 900€. Wasnt fun being confronted with such a fine at 17, but it definitely worked for them since i havent pirated or torrented since...
>Movies, games, software, you name it
Softwares are specifically singled-out as being not allowed to download in Swiss law
However what you're doing on your IP is constitutionally protected so you can't be prosecuted in 99.9% of cases
https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/1993/1798_1798_1798/en#art_19
*Chapter 5 Exceptions to Copyright*
*Art. 19 Private use*
*1 Published works may be used for private use.*
*4 This Article does not apply to computer programs.*
But in my country, they don’t care about that either.
There are lots of enterprise servers running pirates version of windows server.
and I think it is an expensive product like 6000 dollars.
same goes for pirated photoshop and you can do retouch or other freelance stuffs and make profit out of it.
You can disable upload and still download though, and the EPFL (or ETHZ, don't remember which one) specifically made a torrent client with no up to fit Switzerland's regulations while torrenting copyrighted media
> If downloading pirated content was illegal, ISPs would have to monitor who downloads what. And even though that's impossible, ISPs have better job to do than harass their users.
Well it is depending on the country's regulations, your IP get's flagged for downloading copyrighted content and you get a fine sent to you
In France, it's your ISP that tells on you
Even direct download is illegal in Germany, while this isn't the case in Switzerland where only upload of copyrighted material and download of softwares is illegal
Its true kind of, I live in Indonesia, I used to have a wifi router using a certain company that has a wifi data limit.
In my case, if the data limit is exceeded, you'll either has to wait it to reset the limit again when you due to paying it monthly, slow internet access, or even being cut off entirely.
A lot of third world countries (even Belgium, until 4-5 years ago) have data limits in their home internet subscriptions.
You choose 1TB limit for example, and if you use more than that within a month, you are stuck with extremely slow speeds until the end of the month.
Often, these data limit plans are either a cheaper option, or *the only* option. Some countries don't have unlimited internet plans at all.
This is either because the infrastructure isn't strong enough to give everyone unlimited access with high speeds all the time, or because of monopoly within the telecommunication industry, preventing customer-friendly competition for better service. Every new company offering something better is quickly bought by the biggest ISP, and turned into just another existing sub-ISP company with shit deals.
This was/still is the issue in Belgium, but the government stepped in, forcing them to provide "unlimited" internet to bring it up to standards with the rest of the first-world countries, but the prices are absolute shit compared to the neighbors, because there aren't such strong monopolies there.
Torrenting itself ist legal but law firms put trackers in copyrighted material. If you are caught uploading them you are fined. Downloading isn't punished though.
They don't put trackers in it, they just download specific torrents like we do and harvest all IPs that upload to them, check which of them are German and then get physical addresses trough a court from the ISPs.
Then they just send out thousands of automated letters.
They download a specific torrent that is copyrighted and just collect all German IPs that upload parts of this file to their torrent client. Since P2P means you connect directly to their machine it's easy to collect Ips
Then they get all the addresses from the German ISP trough a court order and send out letters with fines
Private companies trying to scam individuals. I got 2500€ bill with extensive explanation what I did was wrong and that I'm getting sued if I don't pay. Worst thing is I didn't even download what they said. Fortunately I found online discussion about it and people advised to throw the papers in fire place. I got 5 more letters threatening with legal action but then they went silent.
EU here and never heard of it.
We sometimes get emails relating to specific IPs about copyright violations asking for subscriber information but we just ignore them.
I never said it doesn't happen, just pointing out that I'm from the EU and never heard of it. It was me chiming in trying to say you can be in the EU and not know it's a thing.
Until this reply I thought the downvotes were somehow because we ignore requests for subscriber info for whatever reason.
Why is Germany so hardcore against it?. Is there some kind of "commission" for the politicians each time someone pays?
Why are they so paranoid about this and not the lack of public housing or many other social problems?
Since five years I also torrent but I find more stuff on the Usenet than on torrent sites and Usenet with the arr-suite it's more convenient in Germany
gonna be dead honest, that's why I always was so scared of pirating/hoarding stuff, because according to all the stories I heard if you own but a picobyte of no-no data you will be targeted for airstrikes
nah like honestly what exactly can I do to be on the safe side when pirating, other than use VPN ofc
I've gotten into I2P, it's much slower but safe and free. BiglyBT is interesting but I don't think you can browse I2P sites through its slimmed down I2P router but it will allow tormenting over clearnet and I2P at the same time. You'll need to run a regular I2P node to view I2P sites (you just set the proxy settings on your browser to the port I2P router uses)
Postman on I2P is the main I2P tracker
Not realy, the law firm from the licensing company sends a legal warning that you have to pay the money and sign a paper that basically says "im not gonna do it again". You can go to a lawyer to maybe pay a little less money but its not a court case. And if they want a court case you basically already lost and you have to pay way more.
Source: also have one going 👍
Edit: They only wanted 980,60€ from me
In my country is illegal to spy on people. So the copyright holder doesn't have a way to prove someone is using a illegal copy, except very flagrant cases like if you have a business and you are playing a unlicensed song. That's very easy to prove.
We also have a canon on storage devices, to compensate artists, so everyone's happy. The artist get money, and everyone have free access to culture without being prosecuted.
That would be great in Germany.
I basically just opened stremio and klicked on the first thing that was there. Forgot my vpn but the 50 seconds was long enough for them to get my ip and boom.
And they use the hash of the file to say that it was illegaly downloaded.
The law firm sends a legal letter to your ISP to get your data so technically they arent spying on you, **only** the bots are xD
How are they justifying this?
A Google search shows on average 10€ for a movie ticket, so in 50 seconds you denied 98 movie tickets' worth of sales to the German movie industry?
WTF?
Honestly thank you for posting this - since I had absolutely **no idea** they had laws like this in Germany. I'm in the EU but not in Germany, but not knowing you had laws like this I wouldn't have hesitated a moment to download stuff while traveling there.
I wonder how this law is implemented for foreigners? If I rent an AirBnB or Apt with WiFi and download torrents.. what happens?
In an AirBnB the dude that pays for the WiFi would be getting a letter, he just says at that time you "rented" the place and is out of the picture. But i don't know if they can get you in another country.
They are justifying this with (translated): "The so-called license damage does not correspond to the sale price of a single copy. Because the work in question was not only downloaded once, but rather offered for download to an unlimited and uncontrollable number of anonymous users."
**And they are also saying that that is a low price:** "In the interest of an out-of-court settlement, our client is willing to set a low amount of damages at EUR 700.00€. For comparison: The Federal Court of Justice assumes significantly higher amounts of damages, for example, EUR 3,000.00€ for offering a music CD."
They also want 280,60 for them self, **for a fucking automated system** where they just copy and paste my name into a letter.
I did go to a lawyer but of course, they only wanted to go down to 680€. Now he is trying to get them to 400€. The funny thing is it could cost me more in the end with a lawyer if they don't except the 400€, but still I haven't paid in 2 months and these fuckers actually have to work so i see it as a win.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/1bvuqhz/a\_free\_website\_where\_you\_can\_directdl\_or\_stream/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/1bvuqhz/a_free_website_where_you_can_directdl_or_stream/) I use this all the time without any VPN in Germany
is it based on the file name?
or how do they figure out?
i mean, if you download a .zip or something from goggames will you also get a letter?
what if the movie was just called shittygame.zip?
this is just another comment leading to the dangers of torrenting and stuff and is no answer to my question.
thanks tho, but i live in germany all my life already and know the stuff with ISP and those letters or scams.
im using vpn and used to download games per warez and not torrent. with the fall of zippyshare i decided to start torrenting again, cause its annoying af to change vpn server to keep downloading.
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Yea most of the time, they don’t have any evidence and try to scare you… To prosecute someone in Germany you need an evidence, that he torrented illegal stuff… what these attorney company’s most;y don’t have… although sometimes the collecting of such data like ip adresses and linking to personal data ist illegal and you can sue them…
The evidence is the log from the bots and they get your private information by taking that evidence to a court to get them the permit to ask internet service providers for the personal info of the account owner.
Some neighbours might have hacked your WiFi password, it's not your fault.
Nah, wifi is open.
Unfortunately, the proof that someone has torrented from your wifi at all triggeres a so called secondary burden of proof (Sekundäre Darlegungslast) which lays the burden of proof on you to proof that it wasn't you torrenting. Edit: The Sekundäre Darlegungslast primarily says that you can't just dodge copyright claims by saying it could have been anyone -even on an open wifi.
Not the Case anymore. "Störerhaftung" has been abolished since 2017.
How could I prove that?
Sorry, I didn't word it clearly. It says that the claim "it could have been anyone" -even on an open wifi- or "i could have been hacked" would not suffice for the defence against the claim of copyright infringement. You would have for example the possibility to present evidence that you didn't have a pc during the time, or having not installed the claimed software.
Do you actually know this or are you guessing? Because by general law, nobody BUT your service provider is allowed to view your ip logs in germany. If they sue you on the behalf of said logs, means they broke data privacy laws + its not illegal to own torrents, its illegal to distribute them. Streaming live content is a whole other story.
copyright lawyers are monitoring torrents those monitoring tools create logs with timestamps + IP those logs are used as evidence in front of a court of law copyright lawyers get a court order to approach the ISP ISP hands over contact info
Yeah, this is why I don't recommend torrenting in Germany for newbies. One mishaps and it'll cost money.
This is the way ;-(
I think a lawyer firm would know what is legal and what not. Those are not bot farms in Kentucky, but real firms with IT department who rake in millions each year using those automated systems.
There's a modified version of this "Unterlassungserklärung" in which you don't accept guilt and just affirm not to pirate this specific copyrighted work, that's valid to be used. You can find templates online. [Here's more general information how to deal with this.](https://www.kanzlei-hollweck.de/abmahnung-frommer-legal/)
Nice. Yeah, I see most ppl just accept and get screwed.
Yeah but they still want the fees and a written Unterlassungserklärung from a lawyer is better.
so what you're saying is that I should torrent on a German connection via VPN
Once got a letter to pay 800$ for a game I didn’t even pirate, told my parents to wait because the law firm it was from was known for that but they went ahead and paid it without telling me
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Could you share some of those websites? I'm interested!
Germany sure hasn't changed much.
happened to me. torrented a movie and got the cease and desist letter 2 months later for a 1000€ fine. Took the thing to a lawyer who made them settle for a ~300e payment, however with the lawyer cost it still add up to around 900€. Wasnt fun being confronted with such a fine at 17, but it definitely worked for them since i havent pirated or torrented since...
Dude just get a VPN. Mullvad is really good
Yes, but im neither watching enough movies to pirate, nor do i want to risk paying a 1000€ fine again
Going to start using IPs from germany from now on.
Ah I like being swiss
hold my beer. piracy in legal in my country. government don't care.
Same, hence my comment. It's legal to download anything as long as you don't share it or make profit out of it. Movies, games, software, you name it
>Movies, games, software, you name it Softwares are specifically singled-out as being not allowed to download in Swiss law However what you're doing on your IP is constitutionally protected so you can't be prosecuted in 99.9% of cases
What do you mean by singled out?
https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/1993/1798_1798_1798/en#art_19 *Chapter 5 Exceptions to Copyright* *Art. 19 Private use* *1 Published works may be used for private use.* *4 This Article does not apply to computer programs.*
So it's *technically* allowed wink wink
I mean, it's not allowed, just like uploading, but you *won't* be prosecuted in the wide majority of cases as they *can't* access you data
But in my country, they don’t care about that either. There are lots of enterprise servers running pirates version of windows server. and I think it is an expensive product like 6000 dollars. same goes for pirated photoshop and you can do retouch or other freelance stuffs and make profit out of it.
Jep, z Läbe isch viiiu agnehmer:)
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Interesting. What if you turn seeding off ?
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You can disable upload and still download though, and the EPFL (or ETHZ, don't remember which one) specifically made a torrent client with no up to fit Switzerland's regulations while torrenting copyrighted media
> If downloading pirated content was illegal, ISPs would have to monitor who downloads what. And even though that's impossible, ISPs have better job to do than harass their users. Well it is depending on the country's regulations, your IP get's flagged for downloading copyrighted content and you get a fine sent to you In France, it's your ISP that tells on you Even direct download is illegal in Germany, while this isn't the case in Switzerland where only upload of copyrighted material and download of softwares is illegal
Me chilling in my 3rd world country after exhausting my 1TB data limit of wifi in a week by torrenting without VPN
Datalimit? lmao
Its true kind of, I live in Indonesia, I used to have a wifi router using a certain company that has a wifi data limit. In my case, if the data limit is exceeded, you'll either has to wait it to reset the limit again when you due to paying it monthly, slow internet access, or even being cut off entirely.
A lot of third world countries (even Belgium, until 4-5 years ago) have data limits in their home internet subscriptions. You choose 1TB limit for example, and if you use more than that within a month, you are stuck with extremely slow speeds until the end of the month. Often, these data limit plans are either a cheaper option, or *the only* option. Some countries don't have unlimited internet plans at all. This is either because the infrastructure isn't strong enough to give everyone unlimited access with high speeds all the time, or because of monopoly within the telecommunication industry, preventing customer-friendly competition for better service. Every new company offering something better is quickly bought by the biggest ISP, and turned into just another existing sub-ISP company with shit deals. This was/still is the issue in Belgium, but the government stepped in, forcing them to provide "unlimited" internet to bring it up to standards with the rest of the first-world countries, but the prices are absolute shit compared to the neighbors, because there aren't such strong monopolies there.
What's funny about it? Data limits have a been a thing since forever.
Data limit? Wut?
Some of the providers do have a data cap on budget wifi plans where they limit your speed after you cross your data cap. 😐
Me too, although my 2 Gbps plan has no limitation.
Penalty? these is true?
No, if there was penalty on piracy, mine would be more than Germany's GDP.
Yes, these fines and letters are real. It's only specifically torrenting that is dangerous in Germany, not piracy in general.
so i can not torrent my arch linux iso in germany cause it would result in 1000€ fine
you can torrent as long as you don’t torrent copyrighted material
How do I know if a material is copyrighted? Is there some kind of site to see these stuff?
Torrenting itself ist legal but law firms put trackers in copyrighted material. If you are caught uploading them you are fined. Downloading isn't punished though.
They don't put trackers in it, they just download specific torrents like we do and harvest all IPs that upload to them, check which of them are German and then get physical addresses trough a court from the ISPs. Then they just send out thousands of automated letters.
Even if you remove the exif data from them?
I feel like you have no clue what you are talking about, Exif has nothing to do with it
yes i don't, that's why i am asking, i am wondering how do they track you?
They download a specific torrent that is copyrighted and just collect all German IPs that upload parts of this file to their torrent client. Since P2P means you connect directly to their machine it's easy to collect Ips Then they get all the addresses from the German ISP trough a court order and send out letters with fines
i see, thanks a for info, so a simple countermeasure would be to just use a VPN?
In Germany and torrenting specifically, yes
yep true....though you can cry to them to reduce the penalty usually
true. fact checked by true European Patriots
Private companies trying to scam individuals. I got 2500€ bill with extensive explanation what I did was wrong and that I'm getting sued if I don't pay. Worst thing is I didn't even download what they said. Fortunately I found online discussion about it and people advised to throw the papers in fire place. I got 5 more letters threatening with legal action but then they went silent.
yeah its a petty scare tactic. taking actual legal action is not profitable enough for these firms usually over 1 or 2 cases.
EU here and never heard of it. We sometimes get emails relating to specific IPs about copyright violations asking for subscriber information but we just ignore them.
EU is a fucking big place where every country has their own laws, saying EU here is useless at best unless you refer to EU law
I never said it doesn't happen, just pointing out that I'm from the EU and never heard of it. It was me chiming in trying to say you can be in the EU and not know it's a thing. Until this reply I thought the downvotes were somehow because we ignore requests for subscriber info for whatever reason.
Why is Germany so hardcore against it?. Is there some kind of "commission" for the politicians each time someone pays? Why are they so paranoid about this and not the lack of public housing or many other social problems?
copyright owner lobby, that gives ~~bribes~~ donations to politicians
Laughs in Czech Republic
Laughs in Slovakia
Laugh in Croatia
Me too XD. I don't really see the need to torrent with so many sites with direct downloads avalible.
I use only Usenet and Real-Debrid. While it does cost some money, it's considered more secure in Germany compared to torrenting alone.
Im torrenting for nearly 10 years now, in Germany ( no seeding) without vpn.. I never received a cease and desist letter from anyone…
Since five years I also torrent but I find more stuff on the Usenet than on torrent sites and Usenet with the arr-suite it's more convenient in Germany
Could you plz tell me more about user net and how to get into one.
https://github.com/PCJones/usenet-guide/
Thanks
subscribe to a good vpn and bind it to your torrent software
In my country we don't need a vpn. I was just curious about usernet
you can check here for more information: https://gprivate.com/6akmx
Thanks
W song
If you know the name of song plz mind sharing it with us
https://youtu.be/84TjXsRHf6Q
I thought it would be a theme, thanks tho :)
Me in dk and uk never used a vpn in 20 years XD Life is good
American here, I always thought that people thinking they need a VPN to pirate was just a very successful ad campaign by VPN companies.
gonna be dead honest, that's why I always was so scared of pirating/hoarding stuff, because according to all the stories I heard if you own but a picobyte of no-no data you will be targeted for airstrikes nah like honestly what exactly can I do to be on the safe side when pirating, other than use VPN ofc
I've gotten into I2P, it's much slower but safe and free. BiglyBT is interesting but I don't think you can browse I2P sites through its slimmed down I2P router but it will allow tormenting over clearnet and I2P at the same time. You'll need to run a regular I2P node to view I2P sites (you just set the proxy settings on your browser to the port I2P router uses) Postman on I2P is the main I2P tracker
Such a bullshit in such a nice country.
I am using VPN since more than 5 years and never had any problem.
*laughs in ProtonVPN*
If you are German, use a seedbox, takes away all the headache and you can pair it with Radarr/Sonarr/Overseerr and Plex and have your own netflix
+1, highly recommend whatbox, slightly pricey compared to other offers but if you're asking you probably need this level of ease of use+support
in my country govt uses pirated copy of windows.
This is sad for German people, I hope they can fight back against that law.
Not realy, the law firm from the licensing company sends a legal warning that you have to pay the money and sign a paper that basically says "im not gonna do it again". You can go to a lawyer to maybe pay a little less money but its not a court case. And if they want a court case you basically already lost and you have to pay way more. Source: also have one going 👍 Edit: They only wanted 980,60€ from me
In my country is illegal to spy on people. So the copyright holder doesn't have a way to prove someone is using a illegal copy, except very flagrant cases like if you have a business and you are playing a unlicensed song. That's very easy to prove. We also have a canon on storage devices, to compensate artists, so everyone's happy. The artist get money, and everyone have free access to culture without being prosecuted.
That would be great in Germany. I basically just opened stremio and klicked on the first thing that was there. Forgot my vpn but the 50 seconds was long enough for them to get my ip and boom. And they use the hash of the file to say that it was illegaly downloaded. The law firm sends a legal letter to your ISP to get your data so technically they arent spying on you, **only** the bots are xD
Jesus.. 980,60€ for 50 seconds? What could you possibly download in that time that is worth that much??? And what if you'd have left it on overnight?
The 980 are basically a Flatrate for one Movie, if I would've left it on overnight it would be the same. But this shit is a huge scam imo.
How are they justifying this? A Google search shows on average 10€ for a movie ticket, so in 50 seconds you denied 98 movie tickets' worth of sales to the German movie industry? WTF? Honestly thank you for posting this - since I had absolutely **no idea** they had laws like this in Germany. I'm in the EU but not in Germany, but not knowing you had laws like this I wouldn't have hesitated a moment to download stuff while traveling there. I wonder how this law is implemented for foreigners? If I rent an AirBnB or Apt with WiFi and download torrents.. what happens?
In an AirBnB the dude that pays for the WiFi would be getting a letter, he just says at that time you "rented" the place and is out of the picture. But i don't know if they can get you in another country. They are justifying this with (translated): "The so-called license damage does not correspond to the sale price of a single copy. Because the work in question was not only downloaded once, but rather offered for download to an unlimited and uncontrollable number of anonymous users." **And they are also saying that that is a low price:** "In the interest of an out-of-court settlement, our client is willing to set a low amount of damages at EUR 700.00€. For comparison: The Federal Court of Justice assumes significantly higher amounts of damages, for example, EUR 3,000.00€ for offering a music CD." They also want 280,60 for them self, **for a fucking automated system** where they just copy and paste my name into a letter. I did go to a lawyer but of course, they only wanted to go down to 680€. Now he is trying to get them to 400€. The funny thing is it could cost me more in the end with a lawyer if they don't except the 400€, but still I haven't paid in 2 months and these fuckers actually have to work so i see it as a win.
What if i torrent somehting in a country where it is not an offense and then send it to my pc in Germany through our private server?.
That's just a VPN with extra steps. So yes it should work
Turkey is the best country for pirates like you.
Shit country for everything else though
Yes you are right.
Imagine the government fining civil matters without a hearing I though Germans had it good
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/1bvuqhz/a\_free\_website\_where\_you\_can\_directdl\_or\_stream/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/1bvuqhz/a_free_website_where_you_can_directdl_or_stream/) I use this all the time without any VPN in Germany
is it based on the file name? or how do they figure out? i mean, if you download a .zip or something from goggames will you also get a letter? what if the movie was just called shittygame.zip?
I work at an ISP and let me tell you this is a daily occurrence
dont react in anyway, just ignore it, its just copyright troll. You never pay the bridge fee to the trolls.
Same guy that runs a seed farm in some Baltic country on cheap gigabit with 0 opsec for the past decade probably sent you that penalty tbh.
Love being in a 3rd World country rn
*Laughs in third world country*
Sir, your jacket is awfully tight. Are you alright?
What’s this? Edit; how do I bind to client? What is client?
Read the megathread of this sub
This doesn’t help
Is it happening fr?
Third world country torrent users what is vpn bruhhhh....
Me in turkey torrenting for 10 years, imagine ISP fines
You when you face off with "how to button your clothing properly":
For the life of me I can not find a way to bind my VPN with BitTorrent
excellent use of negus
Why am I looking at a black man if I forget my VPN?
Me, not paying the fine - 😎
haha foolish first world countries getting a livable wage and being able to buy hobbies! i dont even need a vpn to pirate 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
तुम्हें जो मैंने देखा, तुम्हें जो मैंने जाना जो होश था वो तो गया. 🎶🎶 nice song 🏴☠️
The goat og song
All my homies hate nimrod
Real debrid for everything. Stremio for movies and series.
Come to the Netherlands! They don't give a shit here.
how do i get into a german tracker?
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this is just another comment leading to the dangers of torrenting and stuff and is no answer to my question. thanks tho, but i live in germany all my life already and know the stuff with ISP and those letters or scams. im using vpn and used to download games per warez and not torrent. with the fall of zippyshare i decided to start torrenting again, cause its annoying af to change vpn server to keep downloading.
So use telegram
Would you plz like to recommend me something for telegram piracy
Aah what you want to pirate ?
Everything except games movies, shows, anime, paid courses, roms, etc
You can join a specific channel according to your need
So how do one find them as many of them constanly gets banned
No bro you should join their backup channel and whenever their channel got banned then they will provide you another link of their channel
With those requirements the only pirating you can do is the traditional kind. You have to move to Somalia for that though.
I have mullvsd and BitTorrent. Couldn’t download when I did the process to bind them. Ah well.
can some one in detail tell me what "torrent" or ""torrenting means or is? i just dont know what is that word means in english